date:20070403

Tomi has been on the Doxy for about 3 and a half weeks, so the vet said that 
is enough time and didn't give me any more Doxy pills.  I hope that is 
enough timeI was thinking 4 weeks also, but she said it wasn't 
necessary.


If Hemobartonella comes back, will it take awhile to return, or can it 
return quickly?  I would at least like to get him through this present 
anemic crisis before I have to deal with Hemobart if it came back again.



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  I t can take up to 6 weeks to rid the body of the Hemobartonella he 
should be on the doxy for a minimum of 4 weeks and longer if the HCT isn't 
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Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls

I'm sorry about Hillman Waller passing.  It is so hard to lose them when 
they are so young.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:38 AM
Subject: Please add Hillman Waller to cls

Hi,
We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard decision 
but best for him.  He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever! 
Positive as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the 
surgery that took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back. 
He went into respiratory  failure last night.  But I take comfort in 
knowing not only is he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have 
passed on, he is also with Papoose, that we lost last may.

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advice sought, contacts needed

2007-04-03 Thread Melissa Lind

Hello All,

 

I'm new to this, so bear with me. Here's my situation:

 

I live in rural Nebraska. Caring people are few and far between here when it
comes to cats. I have just rescued a FeLV positive female. She's young, so
her chances of survival are not good for the long-term, but she could live a
happy life, however short that may be. However, I have 3 FeLV negative cats
in my home and not a large enough home to have separate areas for the
positive/negative ones. Someday I plan to operate a FeLV shelter, but I just
don't have the money at this time.

If you have any ideas for me-any place I can take Cassidy (the FeLV cat), I
would greatly appreciate it. I'm willing to drive almost any distance to
save her. She's at my vet's office awaiting a decision. I'm contacting as
many shelters as I can, but I really don't want to surrender her to a
shelter because the quality of care in many is questionable, and her chances
of adoption are slim anyway. I've posted her description at the adoption
site on felineleukemia.org. 

Right now, Cassidy is healthy except for some nerve damage which affects her
right back paw. I'm going to pay for her spay, her shots, etc., (I didn't
mention that on the adoption site to prevent abuse), but I still need to
find a home for her. Otherwise, I'll have to put her down, but I just know
there has to be a place that can save her.

Let me know if you have any options or advice for me.

Thank you very much for your time and your compassion!

 

Melissa

Re: Sometimes, You get scared

We're not masochistic, we just put just see a need and put their needs above 
our emotional ones. It's the curse of having a heart. And they are greatful for 
it. :)
   
  Beth

Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 12:34 PM 4/2/2007, you wrote

I guess we are all a bit masochistic, we take in the ones with 
special needs, We love them and care for then, and vet them and mourn 
their passing, and say we never want to hurt so much again,that is 
until there is another little one in need, and we are there,
I guess no one understands how we can break in to tears thinking 
about our babies, or how we do not sleep worrying about the little 
kitten who ran off in a shopping center somewhere,
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Re: advice sought, contacts needed

2007-04-03 Thread Kelly L


At 06:14 AM 4/3/2007, you wrote:


If your cats are adults and have received their 
vaccines there is no reason not to introduce her 
to your home, Many people here mix them and to my 
knowledge there has been no transmissions, I have 
one, And I had one for years that lived with my 
28 other cats and none ever became positive,
KellyYou can if you decide to do an adoption 
on your own if you want to ,,from your home







Hello All,

Im new to this, so bear with me. Heres my situation:

I live in rural Nebraska. Caring people are few 
and far between here when it comes to cats. I 
have just rescued a FeLV positive female. Shes 
young, so her chances of survival are not good 
for the long-term, but she could live a happy 
life, however short that may be. However, I have 
3 FeLV negative cats in my home and not a large 
enough home to have separate areas for the 
positive/negative ones. Someday I plan to 
operate a FeLV shelter, but I just dont have the money at this time.


If you have any ideas for meany place I can 
take Cassidy (the FeLV cat), I would greatly 
appreciate it. Im willing to drive almost any 
distance to save her. Shes at my vets office 
awaiting a decision. Im contacting as many 
shelters as I can, but I really don't want to 
surrender her to a shelter because the quality 
of care in many is questionable, and her chances 
of adoption are slim anyway. Ive posted her 
description at the adoption site on felineleukemia.org.


Right now, Cassidy is healthy except for some 
nerve damage which affects her right back paw. 
Im going to pay for her spay, her shots, etc., 
(I didnt mention that on the adoption site to 
prevent abuse), but I still need to find a home 
for her. Otherwise, Ill have to put her down, 
but I just know there has to be a place that can save her.


Let me know if you have any options or advice for me.

Thank you very much for your time and your compassion!

Melissa
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Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls


I'm so very sorry for your loss.

On 4/3/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm sorry about Hillman Waller passing.  It is so hard to lose them when
they are so young.


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:38 AM
Subject: Please add Hillman Waller to cls


 Hi,
 We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard decision
 but best for him.  He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever!
 Positive as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the
 surgery that took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back.
 He went into respiratory  failure last night.  But I take comfort in
 knowing not only is he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have
 passed on, he is also with Papoose, that we lost last may.
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I'm so sorry for your loss Jeni!  It sounds like you made the right decision 
for him...even though it was a hard one!! 
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Re: advice sought, contacts needed

Melissa -
   
  There is not need to put her down. If your cats are vaccinated, she can live 
quite happily with your cats. I have mixed as many as 5 FeLV cats with 5 
negative cats. One of my FeLV negative cats is FIV+. I mixed my cats for years. 
None of the negative cats ever got FeLV, and some were tested as much as 2 
years after the FeLV cats were gone. I currently have 1 FeLV cat that is in 
with another cat of mine. I mix cats on the advice of my previous vet.
   
  There are others on this list that mix as well.
   
  I would advise not to vaccinate if possible. Especially for Distemper. Do 
bloodwork before having her spayed to make sure she is healthy enough.
   
  She will bring you a great appreciation for these cats and for life.

  Beth
  
Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
   
  Im new to this, so bear with me. Heres my situation:
   
  I live in rural Nebraska. Caring people are few and far between here when it 
comes to cats. I have just rescued a FeLV positive female. Shes young, so her 
chances of survival are not good for the long-term, but she could live a happy 
life, however short that may be. However, I have 3 FeLV negative cats in my 
home and not a large enough home to have separate areas for the 
positive/negative ones. Someday I plan to operate a FeLV shelter, but I just 
dont have the money at this time.

If you have any ideas for meany place I can take Cassidy (the FeLV cat), I 
would greatly appreciate it. Im willing to drive almost any distance to save 
her. Shes at my vets office awaiting a decision. Im contacting as many 
shelters as I can, but I really don't want to surrender her to a shelter 
because the quality of care in many is questionable, and her chances of 
adoption are slim anyway. Ive posted her description at the adoption site on 
felineleukemia.org. 

Right now, Cassidy is healthy except for some nerve damage which affects her 
right back paw. Im going to pay for her spay, her shots, etc., (I didnt 
mention that on the adoption site to prevent abuse), but I still need to find a 
home for her. Otherwise, Ill have to put her down, but I just know there has 
to be a place that can save her.

Let me know if you have any options or advice for me.

Thank you very much for your time and your compassion!
   
  Melissa



 
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RE: advice sought, contacts needed

Hi, Melissa --
 
I would add to what others have said, what test was used to determine
her FeLV status?  And how young is she?  Because the in-office (ELISA)
tests can often be false positive, and also if she's young enough, she
might shake the FeLV on her own.  She should be retested in a few months
with the more dependable IFA test (which is sent to a lab for
processing).  
 
Even if her diagnosis remains positive, FeLV isn't as easily transmitted
as everybody thinks.  If Cassidy is healthy now, she can stay healthy
for a long time and not endanger your other cats.  Please don't consider
putting her down, and if your vet advocates it, try to either find a vet
who is more open-minded about the new research, or try to educate
him/her yourself.  The felineleukemia.org website has a wealth of info
you can print out for your vet.
 
Hope this helps,
 
Diane R.



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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:15 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: advice sought, contacts needed



Hello All,

 

I'm new to this, so bear with me. Here's my situation:

 

I live in rural Nebraska. Caring people are few and far between here
when it comes to cats. I have just rescued a FeLV positive female. She's
young, so her chances of survival are not good for the long-term, but
she could live a happy life, however short that may be. However, I have
3 FeLV negative cats in my home and not a large enough home to have
separate areas for the positive/negative ones. Someday I plan to operate
a FeLV shelter, but I just don't have the money at this time.

If you have any ideas for me-any place I can take Cassidy (the FeLV
cat), I would greatly appreciate it. I'm willing to drive almost any
distance to save her. She's at my vet's office awaiting a decision. I'm
contacting as many shelters as I can, but I really don't want to
surrender her to a shelter because the quality of care in many is
questionable, and her chances of adoption are slim anyway. I've posted
her description at the adoption site on felineleukemia.org. 

Right now, Cassidy is healthy except for some nerve damage which affects
her right back paw. I'm going to pay for her spay, her shots, etc., (I
didn't mention that on the adoption site to prevent abuse), but I still
need to find a home for her. Otherwise, I'll have to put her down, but I
just know there has to be a place that can save her.

Let me know if you have any options or advice for me.

Thank you very much for your time and your compassion!

 

Melissa


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RE: Please add Hillman Waller to cls

Jeni, I'm so sorry.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Hillman Waller, and
comfort hugs to you.

Diane R. 

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Subject: Please add Hillman Waller to cls

Hi,
We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard decision
but 
best for him.  He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever!
Positive 
as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the surgery
that 
took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back.  He went
into 
respiratory  failure last night.  But I take comfort in knowing not only
is 
he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have passed on, he is also
with 
Papoose, that we lost last may.
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Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls

So sorry you had to lose your baby. What a lucky guy he was to have you.
   
  Beth

JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard decision but 
best for him. He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever! Positive 
as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the surgery that 
took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back. He went into 
respiratory failure last night. But I take comfort in knowing not only is 
he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have passed on, he is also with 
Papoose, that we lost last may.
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Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls

Jeni,

I am so sorry that you guys have lost Hillman Waller. 
Was he Papoose's brother?  Bless you for taking care
of Hillman and Papoose, and seeing after them despite
knowing they might not be with you long.

:)
Wendy

--- JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it
 was a hard decision but 
 best for him.  He was a 1.5 years and was the
 sweetest cat ever!  Positive 
 as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but
 even with the surgery that 
 took out most of it near his throat, we think it
 came back.  He went into 
 respiratory  failure last night.  But I take comfort
 in knowing not only is 
 he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have
 passed on, he is also with 
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Re: Tomi's red blood cell count going down, any suggestions?

15-17 is considered severly anemic. That's about where my foster Stamp is right 
now.
   
  This is a great web page for cat Hemotology at different stages of life:
   
  http://www.cathelp-online.com/health/glossary2.php
   
  Beth
  

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I wish I could be of more help. Joey is on the same regimen and his
rbc was below 3 last he went to the doctor. It makes me think 17 is
really good:(.

On 4/2/07, C  J wrote:

 Just by way of background info:

 March 9, I took Tomi to the vet and found out he had Hemobartonella, Feline
 Leukemia, and a red blood count of 9. The did a transfusion, bringing his
 count up to 13. He started taking Doxycycline, and Prednisone, 2 pills per
 day.

 One week later, his red blood cells were up to 17, and his Prednisone was
 dropped to 1 pill per day.

 In another week, his red blood cells were 19, and the vet stopped giving him
 the Prednisone.

 I've noticed since he stopped the Prednisone that he became a little less
 active, and when he went to the vet today, his red blood cells had dropped
 to 17.

 The vet gave me another bottle of Prednisone, and I am supposed to continue
 giving him 1 per day. Giving him this drug scares me, because I am afraid
 it will weaken his immune system too much.

 I am also giving him Interferon (1cc per day), 1/4 tsp Mega C Plus, 1
 Transfer Factor capsule, and about 1/2 capsule of L-lysine. I've been
 giving these for 1-2 weeks in baby food.

 I asked the vet about Erythopotein, and she didn't think it would be of much
 help since she didn't think Tomi's bone marrow was healthy enough to respond
 to it. I could probably insist that we try it though if it might help. The
 vet thinks that the FeLV is responsible for destroying the blood cells in
 Tomi's bone marrow.

 I was really hoping that once we got rid of the Hemobartonella, that Tomi's
 red blood count would get back to normal, but it looks like that may not be
 the case.

 This is so hard to deal with on a daily basis, never knowing if he's going
 to get better, or if these are the last days I will get to spend with him.

 Each kitty on this list that passes away brings tears to my eyes, and I
 can't help but wonder if my little boy might be next.

 If anyone has a suggestion of what else I might be able to do to help him, I
 would be greaty appreciative.

 Cassandra


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Re: Tomi's red blood cell count going down, any suggestions?


That is an awesome site.  Thank you!

Joey's RBC is 2.59.

So if 15-17 is considered severely anemic...what is 2.59 considered?

On 4/3/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

15-17 is considered severly anemic. That's about where my foster Stamp is
right now.

This is a great web page for cat Hemotology at different stages of life:

http://www.cathelp-online.com/health/glossary2.php

Beth


Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wish I could be of more help. Joey is on the same regimen and his
rbc was below 3 last he went to the doctor. It makes me think 17 is
really good:(.

On 4/2/07, C  J wrote:

 Just by way of background info:

 March 9, I took Tomi to the vet and found out he had Hemobartonella,
Feline
 Leukemia, and a red blood count of 9. The did a transfusion, bringing his
 count up to 13. He started taking Doxycycline, and Prednisone, 2 pills per
 day.

 One week later, his red blood cells were up to 17, and his Prednisone was
 dropped to 1 pill per day.

 In another week, his red blood cells were 19, and the vet stopped giving
him
 the Prednisone.

 I've noticed since he stopped the Prednisone that he became a little less
 active, and when he went to the vet today, his red blood cells had dropped
 to 17.

 The vet gave me another bottle of Prednisone, and I am supposed to
continue
 giving him 1 per day. Giving him this drug scares me, because I am afraid
 it will weaken his immune system too much.

 I am also giving him Interferon (1cc per day), 1/4 tsp Mega C Plus, 1
 Transfer Factor capsule, and about 1/2 capsule of L-lysine. I've been
 giving these for 1-2 weeks in baby food.

 I asked the vet about Erythopotein, and she didn't think it would be of
much
 help since she didn't think Tomi's bone marrow was healthy enough to
respond
 to it. I could probably insist that we try it though if it might help. The
 vet thinks that the FeLV is responsible for destroying the blood cells in
 Tomi's bone marrow.

 I was really hoping that once we got rid of the Hemobartonella, that
Tomi's
 red blood count would get back to normal, but it looks like that may not
be
 the case.

 This is so hard to deal with on a daily basis, never knowing if he's going
 to get better, or if these are the last days I will get to spend with him.

 Each kitty on this list that passes away brings tears to my eyes, and I
 can't help but wonder if my little boy might be next.

 If anyone has a suggestion of what else I might be able to do to help him,
I
 would be greaty appreciative.

 Cassandra


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Where did you get it?

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The Merrick canned I am feeding does not have wheat gluten in it.

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cls

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I feel stupid, but could someone tell me what cls means? I assume it means someone's kitty has died, but just would like to know. I am fairly new to the lsit so I don't know all the abbreviations.

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So sorry you had to lose your baby. What a lucky guy he was to have you.

BethJENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hey guys,

Why is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's
passing, I can burst into tears after having
flashbacks of the night he died?  To a logical person
(being me), it sounds ridiculous and overdramatic. 
But the fact remains that when I allow myself to
remember what happened with Cricket the night he died,
and how horrible it was, it sends me straight into
meltdown.  I am at work for heaven's sake.  Usually,
when I think about Cricket, I don't think about that
one day in his life.  But it seems so unfair that he
couldn't have a more peaceful death.  I will never
forget his suffering, even knowing that he is now at
rest.  Why do some people's/animal's last days of
their lives have to be filled with pain and suffering?
 I just don't understand it.  I think maybe all the
recent losses, and sadly there have been many, might
be bringing my memories back, but maybe that's a good
thing?  Maybe we never really fully stop grieving, but
every little meltdown we have allows us to heal a
little more.  

Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
understanding of the meaning of life.
:)
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Re: cls

Don't feel stupid!  It took me AGES to figure out what CLS was!!!  It's Candle 
Light Service - a website where there are memorials to our kitties who have 
gone to the bridge.
   
  I hope that helps...and this is one list where it's DEFINITELY okay to ask 
what might seem like stupid questions.  When I first got my Slink (who went 
to the bridge last week) I asked ALL KINDS of questions cuz he was my first 
kitty.
   
  Hope you're doing well!
   
  MJ

Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
body{font-family: 
Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: 
#ff;color: black;}I feel stupid, but could someone tell me what cls 
means? I assume it means someone's kitty has died, but just would like to know. 
I am fairly new to the lsit so I don't know all the abbreviations.   


  -Original Message- 
From: Gussies mom 
Sent: Apr 3, 2007 9:36 AM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls 

  So sorry you had to lose your baby. What a lucky guy he was to have you.
   
  Beth

JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard decision but 
best for him. He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever! Positive 
as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the surgery that 
took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back. He went into 
respiratory failure last night. But I take comfort in knowing not only is 
he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have passed on, he is also with 
Papoose, that we lost last may.
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RE: Small meltdown

2007-04-03 Thread Wolf, Leah R.

Wendy,

You are not alone.  It took two weeks for my Bubba to die from felv and
watching him slip away inch by inch was agonizing.  When I think of him, I
have to force myself not to dwell on the experience or else I will break
down all over again.


Leah
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: Small meltdown

Hey guys,

Why is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's passing, I can burst
into tears after having flashbacks of the night he died?  To a logical
person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and overdramatic. 
But the fact remains that when I allow myself to remember what happened with
Cricket the night he died, and how horrible it was, it sends me straight
into meltdown.  I am at work for heaven's sake.  Usually, when I think about
Cricket, I don't think about that one day in his life.  But it seems so
unfair that he couldn't have a more peaceful death.  I will never forget his
suffering, even knowing that he is now at rest.  Why do some
people's/animal's last days of their lives have to be filled with pain and
suffering?
 I just don't understand it.  I think maybe all the recent losses, and sadly
there have been many, might be bringing my memories back, but maybe that's a
good thing?  Maybe we never really fully stop grieving, but every little
meltdown we have allows us to heal a little more.  

Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of understanding of the meaning
of life.
:)
Wendy

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the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! 
 
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RE: OT: Small meltdown

2007-04-03 Thread Stray Cat Alliance

Hi Wendy,

I think sometimes we have an extra special connection to our pets -- just like
we have an extra special connection with some people -- and we just never ever
forget -- how special their life was and is certainly as we still think and
feel very strongly about him or her. And that changes us, perhaps makes us
better human beings.

My special kitty Micco died 9 years ago and I still get into my bouts of crying
and in my case, wishing I would have done more or done something differently.

I don't understand why some simply slip off peacefully into that good night and
others do not, but at least they have the comfort of having someone who cares
about them -- a lot more than many have.

Anita

Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 08:04:33 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:
Small meltdown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hey guys, Why is it
that even a year and a half after Cricket's passing, I can burst into tears
after having flashbacks of the night he died? To a logical person (being
me), it sounds ridiculous and overdramatic. But the fact remains that when
I allow myself to remember what happened with Cricket the night he died,
and how horrible it was, it sends me straight into meltdown. I am at work
for heaven's sake. Usually, when I think about Cricket, I don't think about
that one day in his life. But it seems so unfair that he couldn't have a
more peaceful death. I will never forget his suffering, even knowing that he
is now at rest. Why do some people's/animal's last days of their lives have
to be filled with pain and suffering? I just don't understand it. I think
maybe all the recent losses, and sadly there have been many, might be
bringing my memories back, but maybe that's a good thing? Maybe we never
really fully stop grieving, but every little meltdown we have allows us to
heal a little more. Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
understanding of the meaning of life. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small
group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the
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Re: OT: Small meltdown

2007-04-03 Thread lynette


 Why is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's
 passing, I can burst into tears after having
 flashbacks of the night he died? 

I had to have my beloved Orange PTS at age 18 last fall. His kidneys
gave out entirely and I could not see him suffer any longer. The vet
came to the house for me; I could hold him in his favorite place, and
he gave off such a sense of peace and relief I knew I was doing the
wrong thing.

I cry every time I think about him, and I wonder if there was not more
I could have done (I believe there was and my vet was just plain
stupid). I don't think Orange died as traumatically as your Cricket
and yet I feel the same way.

I think when we really love the grief goes on a long time. Grief does
not exist in logical space so we cannot analyze it away. We must just
live through it, and with it, seemingly forever.

Lynette

Re: advice sought, contacts needed

Melissa,

I mixed my positive with three other negatives and
they are all still negative years later.  They lived
together for four years.  As long as your neg's are
adults and vaccinated, they'll most likely be fine. 
In my opinion, fighting/biting is the only sure way to
pass FeLV in adults.  Also, since this positive kitty
you have is so young, she has a 40% chance of throwing
off the virus, becoming negative at that point.  Even
if you don't decide to mix, can Cassidy stay outside
until you can test her again in 3-6 months to see if
she's negative?  Also, there is a high rate of false
positives on the FeLV tests.  Some tests are more
accurate than others.  Which test did they do on her? 
There are FeLV specific shelters that you can take
her.  The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Kanab, Utah
is GREAT!  My husband and I visited there in February
and they have a wonderful FeLV building (I think it's
called Casa de Calmar) where I volunteered for two
days.  They were not full at that point, but probably
will be shortly being that it's kitten season now so
you might want to call them asap.  Please let us know
what you decide to do.  Good luck.

:)
Wendy

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How are you doing today?  You sound pretty upbeat in
your posts, so I hope you're feeling good.  Slinky is
probably so happy to see you doing well, watching you
from the top of his 'tree in the sky'.  

:)
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To Leah: RE: Small meltdown

Leah,

In a twisted way, I am glad I'm not alone.  Of course,
in my own utopia, I would never wish those kinds of
memories on anyone.  You used the perfect
term...agonizing.  Prayers going out for peace for all
of us.

:)
Wendy

--- Wolf, Leah R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wendy,
 
 You are not alone.  It took two weeks for my Bubba
 to die from felv and
 watching him slip away inch by inch was agonizing. 
 When I think of him, I
 have to force myself not to dwell on the experience
 or else I will break
 down all over again.
 
 
 Leah
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of wendy
 Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:05 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: OT: Small meltdown
 
 Hey guys,
 
 Why is it that even a year and a half after
 Cricket's passing, I can burst
 into tears after having flashbacks of the night he
 died?  To a logical
 person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and
 overdramatic. 
 But the fact remains that when I allow myself to
 remember what happened with
 Cricket the night he died, and how horrible it was,
 it sends me straight
 into meltdown.  I am at work for heaven's sake. 
 Usually, when I think about
 Cricket, I don't think about that one day in his
 life.  But it seems so
 unfair that he couldn't have a more peaceful death. 
 I will never forget his
 suffering, even knowing that he is now at rest.  Why
 do some
 people's/animal's last days of their lives have to
 be filled with pain and
 suffering?
  I just don't understand it.  I think maybe all the
 recent losses, and sadly
 there have been many, might be bringing my memories
 back, but maybe that's a
 good thing?  Maybe we never really fully stop
 grieving, but every little
 meltdown we have allows us to heal a little more.  
 
 Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
 understanding of the meaning
 of life.
 :)
 Wendy
 
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
 committed citizens can change
 the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever
 has! 
  
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Re: To Leah: RE: Small meltdown


Wendy,

I have meltdowns nearly every day just reading this list.  I can
barely read the feline heart list at all.  And yeah, I cry at work
too.  It isn't good...

Try explaining to your boss that you aren't crying over your own
cat...you are crying over your Internet friends' cat that you've never
met (the friend or the cat).



Kelley

On 4/3/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Leah,

In a twisted way, I am glad I'm not alone.  Of course,
in my own utopia, I would never wish those kinds of
memories on anyone.  You used the perfect
term...agonizing.  Prayers going out for peace for all
of us.

:)
Wendy

--- Wolf, Leah R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wendy,

 You are not alone.  It took two weeks for my Bubba
 to die from felv and
 watching him slip away inch by inch was agonizing.
 When I think of him, I
 have to force myself not to dwell on the experience
 or else I will break
 down all over again.


 Leah
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of wendy
 Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:05 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: OT: Small meltdown

 Hey guys,

 Why is it that even a year and a half after
 Cricket's passing, I can burst
 into tears after having flashbacks of the night he
 died?  To a logical
 person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and
 overdramatic.
 But the fact remains that when I allow myself to
 remember what happened with
 Cricket the night he died, and how horrible it was,
 it sends me straight
 into meltdown.  I am at work for heaven's sake.
 Usually, when I think about
 Cricket, I don't think about that one day in his
 life.  But it seems so
 unfair that he couldn't have a more peaceful death.
 I will never forget his
 suffering, even knowing that he is now at rest.  Why
 do some
 people's/animal's last days of their lives have to
 be filled with pain and
 suffering?
  I just don't understand it.  I think maybe all the
 recent losses, and sadly
 there have been many, might be bringing my memories
 back, but maybe that's a
 good thing?  Maybe we never really fully stop
 grieving, but every little
 meltdown we have allows us to heal a little more.

 Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
 understanding of the meaning
 of life.
 :)
 Wendy

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 committed citizens can change
 the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever
 has!

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To Anita: RE: OT: Small meltdown

That's a great point Anita...that without us, who
knows if they ever would have been loved.  If Cricket
had to choose, I bet he would have chosen to be loved
even knowing how he might suffer for a short time in
the end.  He probably would have died from the anemia
one day anyway, had he not known me, and it might have
been sooner.  He might have struggled daily to find
food, like so many do.  And he may have never been
shown love by a human hand.  Cricket's mother was a
pregnant stray I took in, and I couldn't bear to have
her kittens aborted.  I found homes for the mother,
and two of the other siblings, but Cricket was
destined to be loved by me, and me by him.  I believe
that all four of them are gone now.  I know the mother
is because my sister took her in.  The other two I
suspect because the woman who adopted them told me
that she took them to a shelter because she couldn't
handle them, but I suspect they probably tested
positive for FeLV during a routine visit and we know
the rest of the story.  I suspect that because she
knows she could have given them back to me, but opted
to do otherwise.  She lived in my apartment complex in
Houston, and turned out to be a strange person after
knowing her for a few months.

Micco was very lucky to have you.  You must have loved
him very much to still grieve so deeply after 9 years.

:)
Wendy

--- Stray Cat Alliance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Wendy,
  
 I think sometimes we have an extra special
 connection to our pets -- just like we have an extra
 special connection with some people -- and we just
 never ever forget -- how special their life was and
 is certainly as we still think and feel very
 strongly about him or her. And that changes us,
 perhaps makes us better human beings.
  
 My special kitty Micco died 9 years ago and I still
 get into my bouts of crying and in my case, wishing
 I would have done more or done something
 differently. 
  
 I don't understand why some simply slip off
 peacefully into that good night and others do not,
 but at least they have the comfort of having someone
 who cares about them -- a lot more than many have.
  
 Anita
  
 
 
 
  Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 08:04:33 -0700 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Small meltdown
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Hey guys,  Why
 is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's
 passing, I can burst into tears after having
 flashbacks of the night he died? To a logical
 person (being me), it sounds ridiculous and
 overdramatic.  But the fact remains that when I
 allow myself to remember what happened with Cricket
 the night he died, and how horrible it was, it
 sends me straight into meltdown. I am at work for
 heaven's sake. Usually, when I think about Cricket,
 I don't think about that one day in his life. But
 it seems so unfair that he couldn't have a more
 peaceful death. I will never forget his suffering,
 even knowing that he is now at rest. Why do some
 people's/animal's last days of their lives have to
 be filled with pain and suffering? I just don't
 understand it. I think maybe all the recent losses,
 and sadly there have been many, might be bringing
 my memories back, but maybe that's a good thing?
 Maybe we never really fully stop grieving, but
 every little meltdown we have allows us to heal a
 little more.   Thanks for letting me ramble about
 my lack of understanding of the meaning of life.
 :) Wendy  Never doubt that a small group of
 thoughtful committed citizens can change the world:
 Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!  ~~~
 Margaret Meade ~~~


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To Lynette: Re: OT: Small meltdown

Lynette,

I am so sorry about your Orange.  Our Julie will be 18
in June; her kidneys aren't working too well either. 
I can tell she's different from month to month...more
quiet and inactive as time goes by.  We all do what we
can.  I think it was very selfless of you to let
Orange pass on.  As another member said here so
well...it's the only gift we have left to give them at
that point.  I understand your grief, but you did do
what you thought was right for Orange, which was
completely selfless of you and probably one of the
hardest things you've ever done.

You are right.  Grief is in no way logical.  It just
is.  And we can either live through it or allow it to
control us.  I suspect we all do a bit of both at
times.  I also have been thinking lately about little
Jessica Lunsford from Florida who was raped and
murdered.  I grieve for her and I can't imagine being
her parents, and living with knowing what happened to
her.  For the rest of their lives they will live with
that grief.  I can't imagine it.  Her killer got the
death penalty, but it won't bring her back.  I don't
know what's wrong with me lately, thinking about all
this stuff.  I guess I should be thankful I am not
desensitized to it all, but life can be so painful
sometimes when we're not.

:)
Wendy


 I had to have my beloved Orange PTS at age 18 last
 fall. His kidneys
 gave out entirely and I could not see him suffer any
 longer. The vet
 came to the house for me; I could hold him in his
 favorite place, and
 he gave off such a sense of peace and relief I knew
 I was doing the
 wrong thing.
 
 I cry every time I think about him, and I wonder if
 there was not more
 I could have done (I believe there was and my vet
 was just plain
 stupid). I don't think Orange died as traumatically
 as your Cricket
 and yet I feel the same way.
 
 I think when we really love the grief goes on a long
 time. Grief does
 not exist in logical space so we cannot analyze it
 away. We must just
 live through it, and with it, seemingly forever.
 
 Lynette
 
 


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Updates on Cassidy

2007-04-03 Thread Melissa Lind

It's the newbie again. I'm not sure if I'm using this mailing list
correctly-please advise me if I'm not! And I apologize for being wordy-I'm
an English major/instructor who just can seem to mince her words!

 

Cassidy is getting spayed today. She's very healthy considering what she's
gone through with her lame foot, and her tail seems to not know where it's
at sometimes due to the nerve damage. I forgot the digital camera again
today, so the vet's going to take a picture of her for my adoption posting.

 

Yesterday I did copious amounts of research, and I've been emailing places
all over Nebraska. I'm going to work on South Dakota and the Twin Cities
area (Minnesota) today since these areas are relatively close to where I
live.

 

I've been astonished by the outpouring of support. Even though I haven't
found a home for her, I'm now convinced that I could never euthanize her.
There just wasn't any support around here for my passion for cats, so I was
feeling a little desperate! I know I'll find a home for her eventually. I've
received other reports of people housing their FeLV positives with the
negatives. I'm just not sure I can do that just yet. Plus, my youngest (less
than a year old) is not vaccinated because my vet did not recommend it. He
said that the vaccine has a 1 in 10,000 chance of causing a sarcoma which
would lead to amputation and chemotherapy. I certainly cannot afford that
emotionally or financially! My vet doesn't vaccinate his house cats against
FeLV either since (like mine) they never go outside or even occasionally
escape. I have mixed feelings about getting my youngest, Smokey, vaccinated
after reading more about FeLV. I haven't decided yet what to do. If I didn't
have her, I believe the older cats (5 and 10 years of age) would be
resistant to the disease.

 

Crazy enough-another cat found me last night! I've named her Ashley since
she looks like my Smokey and they are about the same age (smoke/ash, get
it?). Luckily, her test came back negative for FeLV (the Elisa test). She's
getting spayed Wednesday, and I'll pick both her and Cassidy up on Thursday.
I think I'll be able to find a home quite easily for Ashley.

 

I talked to my vet about having another test. He strongly suggested the
better test (IFA is it?) that others have also advised me on. If I still
have Cassidy in a couple weeks, I'll get her tested. If she comes back
negative then, I'll consider getting Smokey vaccinated and keeping them all
together, that is if my husband doesn't kick us all out before then! No,
he's very tolerant, but if I ever got his baby Smokey sick from another cat,
he'd be very upset (as would I).

 

In defense of my vet, he's very knowledgeable-much more so than any vet
we've had in these areas when it comes to pets (cows and pigs are the thing
here)-but I think he's used to dealing with penny-pinchers around these
parts who won't even consider spending money on cats like these-so he wasn't
expecting that I'd be so open to alternatives. I've let him know that I'm
going to make up a handout for his clients who might bring in an FeLV
positive cat in the future. He was very pleased and luckily very supportive.
I hate it when vets are condescending or think that people shouldn't save
strays. He's discussed doing a feral trap and spay/neuter project-I'll work
on that with him for the summer.

 

If you'd like, I'll keep you posted on Cassidy. Again, sorry about the
length of this email!

Melissa

RE: Updates on Cassidy

Melissa --
 
Thanks for the update!  I'm glad Cassidy is going in for her zipper,
vibes that all goes well.
 
I know you're kind of crunched for time, but it would really be better
to wait longer to retest her -- if the first test was a true positive
(which of course you don't know) you should give her some time to lose
the FeLV herself before retesting.  (The theory here is, she may have
gotten it from her mom at birth, but will defeat it herself in time as
her body's natural defenses mature.)
 
I'm excited and impressed about your vet!  Maybe he's been bored stiff
with the cows and pigs, and really wants to know and do more!  The TNR
program would be a huge boon to everybody in your area.  Best of luck
with that!
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melissa Lind
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Updates on Cassidy



It's the newbie again. I'm not sure if I'm using this mailing list
correctly-please advise me if I'm not! And I apologize for being
wordy-I'm an English major/instructor who just can seem to mince her
words!

 

Cassidy is getting spayed today. She's very healthy considering what
she's gone through with her lame foot, and her tail seems to not know
where it's at sometimes due to the nerve damage. I forgot the digital
camera again today, so the vet's going to take a picture of her for my
adoption posting.

 

Yesterday I did copious amounts of research, and I've been emailing
places all over Nebraska. I'm going to work on South Dakota and the Twin
Cities area (Minnesota) today since these areas are relatively close to
where I live.

 

I've been astonished by the outpouring of support. Even though I haven't
found a home for her, I'm now convinced that I could never euthanize
her. There just wasn't any support around here for my passion for cats,
so I was feeling a little desperate! I know I'll find a home for her
eventually. I've received other reports of people housing their FeLV
positives with the negatives. I'm just not sure I can do that just yet.
Plus, my youngest (less than a year old) is not vaccinated because my
vet did not recommend it. He said that the vaccine has a 1 in 10,000
chance of causing a sarcoma which would lead to amputation and
chemotherapy. I certainly cannot afford that emotionally or financially!
My vet doesn't vaccinate his house cats against FeLV either since (like
mine) they never go outside or even occasionally escape. I have mixed
feelings about getting my youngest, Smokey, vaccinated after reading
more about FeLV. I haven't decided yet what to do. If I didn't have her,
I believe the older cats (5 and 10 years of age) would be resistant to
the disease.

 

Crazy enough-another cat found me last night! I've named her Ashley
since she looks like my Smokey and they are about the same age
(smoke/ash, get it?). Luckily, her test came back negative for FeLV (the
Elisa test). She's getting spayed Wednesday, and I'll pick both her and
Cassidy up on Thursday. I think I'll be able to find a home quite easily
for Ashley.

 

I talked to my vet about having another test. He strongly suggested the
better test (IFA is it?) that others have also advised me on. If I still
have Cassidy in a couple weeks, I'll get her tested. If she comes back
negative then, I'll consider getting Smokey vaccinated and keeping them
all together, that is if my husband doesn't kick us all out before then!
No, he's very tolerant, but if I ever got his baby Smokey sick from
another cat, he'd be very upset (as would I).

 

In defense of my vet, he's very knowledgeable-much more so than any vet
we've had in these areas when it comes to pets (cows and pigs are the
thing here)-but I think he's used to dealing with penny-pinchers around
these parts who won't even consider spending money on cats like these-so
he wasn't expecting that I'd be so open to alternatives. I've let him
know that I'm going to make up a handout for his clients who might bring
in an FeLV positive cat in the future. He was very pleased and luckily
very supportive. I hate it when vets are condescending or think that
people shouldn't save strays. He's discussed doing a feral trap and
spay/neuter project-I'll work on that with him for the summer.

 

If you'd like, I'll keep you posted on Cassidy. Again, sorry about the
length of this email!

Melissa


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Late FeLV diagnosis

2007-04-03 Thread Nathan Kennedy

Yesterday I got the bad news that my boy Mao was FeLV+.  This was the
worst-case scenario and one that I had dismissed because he tested
negative when I rescued him from the street as a baby in October, as had
the only other cat he had contact with.

He saw the vet on his first visit, the next day for vaccinations and a
checkup, a few weeks later for boosters, again for a nasty fever in
December that cleared up shortly afterwards, and in January for neutering.
 Other than the fever, the only problems he had were recurring diarrhea
that I tried to manage by modifying his diet and an occasional fit of
whooping that the vet had dismissed as hairballs.  Those worried me a bit,
but the vet's clean bill of health, his big appetite, energy, and growth
all reassured me.

Until recently.  Mao seemed to dull a bit, and started snoring during his
naps.  Over the past week, Mao developed a nasty case of earmites and
increased trouble breathing, progressing into fits of gasping for air. 
Since he had no runny nose and his temperature was normal, I thought it
might be asthma.  I took him to the vet on Saturday, and he took a blood
sample and X-rayed him, finding a constriction in his trachea.  He
prescribed prednisone to try to make it easier for him to breathe as well
as treatment for the mites.  Then Sunday night, Mao almost instantly
developed a horrible eye infection.  The third eyelid of his right eye
closed over and swelled up, blinding him in that eye and making it
impossible for him to close it--meanwhile, his breathing deteriorated.  He
went back to another vet in the morning, and got eyedrops and ointment as
well as antibiotics.  It wasn't until later in the afternoon I got the
call that he had tested FeLV+.

Mao's breathing is not improving.  The slightest exertion is enough to
send him into a loud fit of labored gasping, and when he is not napping
every breath is strained--he can't climb his scratching post anymore,
which used to be his favorite perch.  Despite all that, he still wakes me
up in the morning purring and rubbing my face.  He still likes to eat and
pauses between bites of his favorite food to give me his happy look
through his squinting, red eyes.  He has always been such a happy cat, and
it still shows through all his suffering.

But if his condition doesn't get any better I don't think he can last much
longer.  It's hard to see this happen to Mao at such a young age (not even
8 months yet).  The vet who diagnosed him told me that he could have
gotten FeLV shortly before I found him and tested negative.  I didn't
think I would lose him so soon.

RE: Late FeLV diagnosis

Nathan --

I'm sorry Mao is sick.  But first off, which test was used to test for
FeLV most recently?  If it was the ELISA (in-office), it has a high
incidence of false positives.  If it was the IFA, that's more reliable.
It's just odd that he would test negative when you got him and then
suddenly develop it later on when chances were slim to none of new
exposure.

The folks on this list will probably have a ton of suggestions on how to
make him feel better.  

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Late FeLV diagnosis

Yesterday I got the bad news that my boy Mao was FeLV+.  This was the
worst-case scenario and one that I had dismissed because he tested
negative when I rescued him from the street as a baby in October, as had
the only other cat he had contact with.

He saw the vet on his first visit, the next day for vaccinations and a
checkup, a few weeks later for boosters, again for a nasty fever in
December that cleared up shortly afterwards, and in January for
neutering.
 Other than the fever, the only problems he had were recurring diarrhea
that I tried to manage by modifying his diet and an occasional fit of
whooping that the vet had dismissed as hairballs.  Those worried me a
bit,
but the vet's clean bill of health, his big appetite, energy, and growth
all reassured me.

Until recently.  Mao seemed to dull a bit, and started snoring during
his
naps.  Over the past week, Mao developed a nasty case of earmites and
increased trouble breathing, progressing into fits of gasping for air. 
Since he had no runny nose and his temperature was normal, I thought it
might be asthma.  I took him to the vet on Saturday, and he took a blood
sample and X-rayed him, finding a constriction in his trachea.  He
prescribed prednisone to try to make it easier for him to breathe as
well
as treatment for the mites.  Then Sunday night, Mao almost instantly
developed a horrible eye infection.  The third eyelid of his right eye
closed over and swelled up, blinding him in that eye and making it
impossible for him to close it--meanwhile, his breathing deteriorated.
He
went back to another vet in the morning, and got eyedrops and ointment
as
well as antibiotics.  It wasn't until later in the afternoon I got the
call that he had tested FeLV+.

Mao's breathing is not improving.  The slightest exertion is enough to
send him into a loud fit of labored gasping, and when he is not napping
every breath is strained--he can't climb his scratching post anymore,
which used to be his favorite perch.  Despite all that, he still wakes
me
up in the morning purring and rubbing my face.  He still likes to eat
and
pauses between bites of his favorite food to give me his happy look
through his squinting, red eyes.  He has always been such a happy cat,
and
it still shows through all his suffering.

But if his condition doesn't get any better I don't think he can last
much
longer.  It's hard to see this happen to Mao at such a young age (not
even
8 months yet).  The vet who diagnosed him told me that he could have
gotten FeLV shortly before I found him and tested negative.  I didn't
think I would lose him so soon.


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Re: Updates on Cassidy

Hey Melissa,

Imagine...meeting a fellow English teacher and cat
lover here...lol.  I think books and cats just go
together.

You are using this mailing list perfectly.  This is
what we are here for.  And imo, it's the best place to
be for FeLV info.  And we're so glad that you aren't
going to euthanize Cassidy.  You will not regret it. 
You are right to be weary of mixing your youngest with
Cassidy.  Kittens are more susceptible, we think, but
are not sure.  Their immune systems are not fully
developed.  Your vet sounds like he knows what he's
doing.  He is right about the sarcoma.  Of course,
sarcoma's can be associated with all sorts of
vaccinations, not just FeLV.  That's why we recommend
using a back leg for the vaccinations, alternating
legs between vaccinations.  If a sarcoma does happen,
the leg can be removed, and kitty can still live a
long life, albeit a bit wobbly at first.  Sarcomas in
the neck are much less treatable.  Most of us here do
not vaccinate our inside cats either, unless they mix,
and then some do and some don't.  

Good luck finding Ashley a home.  You sound like a cat
magnet.  lol.  I'm sure your husband just loves that
about you.  My husband wasn't really a cat person, but
after meeting me, he's warmed up quite a bit.  He
still loves his dogs best though.  If he had his way,
we'd have a backyard full of every breed of dog
imaginable to man.  

I think it's wonderful you are going to make up a
handout for FeLV for your vet.  I'm going to talk to
my vet about doing the same thing.  And possibly other
vets around here who I know.  And I think it's
wonderful you are going to do the tnr project with him
this summer.  Again, he sounds like a FANTASTIC vet. 
If only they all were that knowledgeable and open to
suggestions.

Yes, we would love to be updated on Cassidy.  I just
know this is going to turn out great for her with you
in her corner.

:)
Wendy
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Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls


Jeni,
I am so sorry.

elizabeth


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Hi,
We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard decision
but
best for him.  He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever!  Positive
as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the surgery
that
took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back.  He went into
respiratory  failure last night.  But I take comfort in knowing not only
is
he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have passed on, he is also
with
Papoose, that we lost last may.
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Re: Late FeLV diagnosis

2007-04-03 Thread Lance

Nathan,

I'm really sorry to read that Mao is so ill. It sounds like you have a
good vet, in that you don't mention him recommending euthanasia yet. We
sometimes see less compassionate and less concerned vets recommending
this just because a cat tests positive. Has your vet recommended any
further treatment options? Do you have any specialists in your area who
might be helpful?

To fight the eye infection, I'd recommend boosting Mao's immune system.
I'm using Transfer Factor Plus Advanced and Liquid-DMG for boosting my
FeLV+ Ember's system. The TF is a bit expensive (about a dollar a
capsule), but the DMG isn't bad. Ember is also on low dose human
interferon, which is also pretty affordable. 

Decent cat food is important. Ember is currently on Felidae canned,
which is generally considered to be human grade where the meat
ingredients are concerned, and is also not involved in the current
recall.

I think you'll get better advise from others here, especially those who
have dealt with cats with respiratory problems. I really hope there's
something that can be done to help Mao. He'll be in my prayers.


Lance


On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:59:00 -0400 (EDT), Nathan Kennedy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Yesterday I got the bad news that my boy Mao was FeLV+.  This was the
 worst-case scenario and one that I had dismissed because he tested
 negative when I rescued him from the street as a baby in October, as had
 the only other cat he had contact with.
 
 He saw the vet on his first visit, the next day for vaccinations and a
 checkup, a few weeks later for boosters, again for a nasty fever in
 December that cleared up shortly afterwards, and in January for
 neutering.
  Other than the fever, the only problems he had were recurring diarrhea
 that I tried to manage by modifying his diet and an occasional fit of
 whooping that the vet had dismissed as hairballs.  Those worried me a
 bit,
 but the vet's clean bill of health, his big appetite, energy, and growth
 all reassured me.
 
 Until recently.  Mao seemed to dull a bit, and started snoring during his
 naps.  Over the past week, Mao developed a nasty case of earmites and
 increased trouble breathing, progressing into fits of gasping for air. 
 Since he had no runny nose and his temperature was normal, I thought it
 might be asthma.  I took him to the vet on Saturday, and he took a blood
 sample and X-rayed him, finding a constriction in his trachea.  He
 prescribed prednisone to try to make it easier for him to breathe as well
 as treatment for the mites.  Then Sunday night, Mao almost instantly
 developed a horrible eye infection.  The third eyelid of his right eye
 closed over and swelled up, blinding him in that eye and making it
 impossible for him to close it--meanwhile, his breathing deteriorated. 
 He
 went back to another vet in the morning, and got eyedrops and ointment as
 well as antibiotics.  It wasn't until later in the afternoon I got the
 call that he had tested FeLV+.
 
 Mao's breathing is not improving.  The slightest exertion is enough to
 send him into a loud fit of labored gasping, and when he is not napping
 every breath is strained--he can't climb his scratching post anymore,
 which used to be his favorite perch.  Despite all that, he still wakes me
 up in the morning purring and rubbing my face.  He still likes to eat and
 pauses between bites of his favorite food to give me his happy look
 through his squinting, red eyes.  He has always been such a happy cat,
 and
 it still shows through all his suffering.
 
 But if his condition doesn't get any better I don't think he can last
 much
 longer.  It's hard to see this happen to Mao at such a young age (not
 even
 8 months yet).  The vet who diagnosed him told me that he could have
 gotten FeLV shortly before I found him and tested negative.  I didn't
 think I would lose him so soon.
 
 
-- 
  Lance Linimon
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Late FeLV diagnosis: my reply

2007-04-03 Thread dede hicken

Nathan,

I don't give advice on FeLV on this list because I am
so new, but I CAN tell you about a hypoplastic
trachea, because I have a cat with it.  She also has
asthma, and the attacks are very frightening.

I give her .5ml dexamethasone (sp) in her rear muscle.
 I also give her aminophiline to open her airway.  It
takes a few hours to work, but it does.  She is in a
room with a HEPA air filter.  You have to keep them
quiet during any breathing problems.  Unless they are
mouth breathing and the gums are pink, they are
holding their own even tho it looks like they are
dying.

I am NOT a vet, and this is what I do for MY cat as
per my vet's instructions.  I does sound to me like
your vets are not doing enough for Mao.  I will just
add that it took me 3 yrs to find a vet that has
successfully treated Dusty.  They say this condition
is fairy rare.

All the best,
Dede
--- Nathan Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday I got the bad news that my boy Mao was
 FeLV+.  This was the
 worst-case scenario and one that I had dismissed
 because he tested
 negative when I rescued him from the street as a
 baby in October, as had
 the only other cat he had contact with.
 
 He saw the vet on his first visit, the next day for
 vaccinations and a
 checkup, a few weeks later for boosters, again for a
 nasty fever in
 December that cleared up shortly afterwards, and in
 January for neutering.
  Other than the fever, the only problems he had were
 recurring diarrhea
 that I tried to manage by modifying his diet and an
 occasional fit of
 whooping that the vet had dismissed as hairballs. 
 Those worried me a bit,
 but the vet's clean bill of health, his big
 appetite, energy, and growth
 all reassured me.
 
 Until recently.  Mao seemed to dull a bit, and
 started snoring during his
 naps.  Over the past week, Mao developed a nasty
 case of earmites and
 increased trouble breathing, progressing into fits
 of gasping for air. 
 Since he had no runny nose and his temperature was
 normal, I thought it
 might be asthma.  I took him to the vet on Saturday,
 and he took a blood
 sample and X-rayed him, finding a constriction in
 his trachea.  He
 prescribed prednisone to try to make it easier for
 him to breathe as well
 as treatment for the mites.  Then Sunday night, Mao
 almost instantly
 developed a horrible eye infection.  The third
 eyelid of his right eye
 closed over and swelled up, blinding him in that eye
 and making it
 impossible for him to close it--meanwhile, his
 breathing deteriorated.  He
 went back to another vet in the morning, and got
 eyedrops and ointment as
 well as antibiotics.  It wasn't until later in the
 afternoon I got the
 call that he had tested FeLV+.
 
 Mao's breathing is not improving.  The slightest
 exertion is enough to
 send him into a loud fit of labored gasping, and
 when he is not napping
 every breath is strained--he can't climb his
 scratching post anymore,
 which used to be his favorite perch.  Despite all
 that, he still wakes me
 up in the morning purring and rubbing my face.  He
 still likes to eat and
 pauses between bites of his favorite food to give me
 his happy look
 through his squinting, red eyes.  He has always been
 such a happy cat, and
 it still shows through all his suffering.
 
 But if his condition doesn't get any better I don't
 think he can last much
 longer.  It's hard to see this happen to Mao at such
 a young age (not even
 8 months yet).  The vet who diagnosed him told me
 that he could have
 gotten FeLV shortly before I found him and tested
 negative.  I didn't
 think I would lose him so soon.
 
 
 


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Cassidy is a boy!

2007-04-03 Thread Melissa Lind

Ha! Ha! The vet called me with interesting news-Cassidy fooled us all! He is
now neutered. Luckily, I named him after a fictional cowboy, so the name
will stay.

 

I appreciate all the info on mixed households, but I'm still leery about
trying it. We'll see how the search for a home goes.and then I'll make a
decision when the time comes.

 

I've found places in Minnesota and Iowa that might be able to take him, but
I haven't contacted the one in Utah yet. The ones in MN and IA are both
sanctuaries for cats, and they are no-kill. The one in Minnesota is the
Feline Leukemia Care Center http://www.felineleukemiacarecenter.org
http://www.felineleukemiacarecenter.org/  which only takes FeLV cats, but
I haven't heard back from them. The one in Iowa can be viewed at
www.rustichollowshelter.org http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ . but they
have a waiting list. I'll just have to wait and see.

 

I apologize for not responding to the other posts at this time-I'm swamped
with following leads for Cassidy, but I want to keep active on this mail
list even if I don't have a FeLV baby in the future. My poor students.but
right now I care about cats more than them!

 

Wendy, I should have known that I'd find other English people on here! I
think all my English professors in undergrad had cats-some with an entire
household of them. I'll write down what you're reading, and look into it
later-I'll add it to my must-read list. Why is it that English-minded people
(or literature enthusiasts) are so compassionate with animals? Maybe it's
because our studies (and our paychecks) have taught us that not everything
valuable and honorable involves a price tag.

 

Linda Hogan has a great book called Intimate Nature: The Bond Between Women
and Animals. Perhaps many of you would find it comforting.

 

Well, back to work for Cassidy the Cowboy Kitty! I'll let you all know how
it goes.

 

Melissa, Osmond, NE

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pluck it out of the Place of Nothingness, in short to identify it--well,
that's a way of bringing the said thing into being. --Iff, the Water Genie

Re: Hi Marissa

Aw, thanks for asking Wendy!
   
  I'm doing okay.  The first several days after Slinky went to the bridge I 
really thought I was doing great!  But the last few nights have been pretty 
rough.  The guilt and what-if's started 2 nights ago - if I'd caught the UTI 
sooner, gotten him in sooner - and to a better vet, done more, paid closer 
attention, etc  In my head I know that's not true, but as someone else 
said, grief is not logical...and neither is guilt!  
   
  I really started mourning Slink when I first found out how sick he was...but 
I think at that point I was mourning the loss of a friend, a companion, someone 
to keep me company.  Now I think I'm mourning the loss of SLINKY...his 
personality, his sweetness, the amazing bond we had.  Those are the things I 
can't ever get back, despite being able to get new friends, etc.  So...it's a 
process I guess I have to go through, but it's not fun!  I cried myself to 
sleep twice this week - holding his favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat 
that looks like him (tho he's way too small).
   
  People have been fabulously supportive, though.  The vet sent me a card with 
a very sweet note shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I got cards in 
the mail from 2 friends.  Everyone's been checking on me and MC and Barb have 
been talking to me almost 24/7  (THANKS GUYS).  It's so great 
to have family and friends help you through these times.
   
  Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want me to be alone (he knows I 
need some babies to take care of me! lol) and I promised him I would give a 
good home to other cats.  So I've begun looking for 2 new furbabes to adopt.  I 
actually applied for 2 at the Washington Animal Rescue League:
  http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889
   
  http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096
   
  When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of the staff mentioned that 
they have a lot of apps in for Patience and that they were already leaning 
toward someone before I came along, so it sounds like I may not end up with 
her.  But she said there weren't many in on Rufus...because his condition is 
scarier.  I pointed out that I work in disability rights - it takes a lot to 
scare me! lol  They seemed to think this one (below) would be a good match for 
Rufus since he's pretty quiet.
   
  http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136115
   
  I've decided I definitely want special needs kitties...but I just can't do 
another terminal illness (such as felv) again right now.  I don't have the 
emotional resources...nor the financial.  And now that I understand the 
potential costs of treatments, etc. I don't think it would be very responsible 
of me to take in a + cat knowing I can't afford to pay for what they may 
(probably will) need.  It's beginning to seem, though, that the special needs 
kitties are fairly popular...so I'd be willing to take in a healthy, 
middle-aged cat who's having trouble getting adopted as well.
   
  I'll let you all know what happens with the applications...and I know you all 
will love them even if they're not positive!  ;)  
   
  Thank you all so much for being here!  This list has been my lifeline and I 
know I couldn't get through this stuff without you!!!  I hope all your 
furbabies are doing well!!!
   
  MJ and Angel Slinky  :)

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  Hey Marissa,

How are you doing today? You sound pretty upbeat in
your posts, so I hope you're feeling good. Slinky is
probably so happy to see you doing well, watching you
from the top of his 'tree in the sky'. 

:)
Wendy

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Re: Cassidy is a boy!

Hehehe...Sounds like Cassidy is going to be a hoot
already!

Love your quote Melissa!

:)
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Re: Hi Marissa

2007-04-03 Thread Barb Moermond

yep, we rock 

hehehe and we're trying to convince marissa that mc and I are actually 
different people!  pretty shaky results so far..
 
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My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 12:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Marissa


Aw, thanks for asking Wendy!
 
I'm doing okay.  The first several days after Slinky went to the bridge I 
really thought I was doing great!  But the last few nights have been pretty 
rough.  The guilt and what-if's started 2 nights ago - if I'd caught the UTI 
sooner, gotten him in sooner - and to a better vet, done more, paid closer 
attention, etc  In my head I know that's not true, but as someone else 
said, grief is not logical...and neither is guilt!  
 
I really started mourning Slink when I first found out how sick he was...but I 
think at that point I was mourning the loss of a friend, a companion, someone 
to keep me company.  Now I think I'm mourning the loss of SLINKY...his 
personality, his sweetness, the amazing bond we had.  Those are the things I 
can't ever get back, despite being able to get new friends, etc.  So...it's a 
process I guess I have to go through, but it's not fun!  I cried myself to 
sleep twice this week - holding his favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat 
that looks like him (tho he's way too small).
 
People have been fabulously supportive, though.  The vet sent me a card with a 
very sweet note shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I got cards in the 
mail from 2 friends.  Everyone's been checking on me and MC and Barb have been 
talking to me almost 24/7  (THANKS GUYS).  It's so great to 
have family and friends help you through these times.
 
Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want me to be alone (he knows I 
need some babies to take care of me! lol) and I promised him I would give a 
good home to other cats.  So I've begun looking for 2 new furbabes to adopt.  I 
actually applied for 2 at the Washington Animal Rescue League:
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889
 
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096
 
When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of the staff mentioned that they 
have a lot of apps in for Patience and that they were already leaning toward 
someone before I came along, so it sounds like I may not end up with her.  But 
she said there weren't many in on Rufus...because his condition is scarier.  I 
pointed out that I work in disability rights - it takes a lot to scare me! lol  
They seemed to think this one (below) would be a good match for Rufus since 
he's pretty quiet.
 
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136115
 
I've decided I definitely want special needs kitties...but I just can't do 
another terminal illness (such as felv) again right now.  I don't have the 
emotional resources...nor the financial.  And now that I understand the 
potential costs of treatments, etc. I don't think it would be very responsible 
of me to take in a + cat knowing I can't afford to pay for what they may 
(probably will) need.  It's beginning to seem, though, that the special needs 
kitties are fairly popular...so I'd be willing to take in a healthy, 
middle-aged cat who's having trouble getting adopted as well.
 
I'll let you all know what happens with the applications...and I know you all 
will love them even if they're not positive!  ;)  
 
Thank you all so much for being here!  This list has been my lifeline and I 
know I couldn't get through this stuff without you!!!  I hope all your 
furbabies are doing well!!!
 
MJ and Angel Slinky  :)

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Marissa,

How are you doing today? You sound pretty upbeat in
your posts, so I hope you're feeling good. Slinky is
probably so happy to see you doing well, watching you
from the top of his 'tree in the sky'. 

:)
Wendy

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world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! 
~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~





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RE: Hi Marissa

Marissa --
 
Reading Patience's story made me cry (yes, I too end up crying a lot at
work) -- to think of the cruelty she's already endured in her little
life.  I'm so glad she seems to be on her way to a great new home even
if it isn't yours.
 
Rufus and Justin look delightful.  I hope you get them!  I'm sure Slinky
would be proud to know that you're ready to channel the love you have
for him into these other babies.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Hi Marissa


Aw, thanks for asking Wendy!
 
I'm doing okay.  The first several days after Slinky went to the bridge
I really thought I was doing great!  But the last few nights have been
pretty rough.  The guilt and what-if's started 2 nights ago - if I'd
caught the UTI sooner, gotten him in sooner - and to a better vet, done
more, paid closer attention, etc  In my head I know that's not
true, but as someone else said, grief is not logical...and neither is
guilt!  
 
I really started mourning Slink when I first found out how sick he
was...but I think at that point I was mourning the loss of a friend, a
companion, someone to keep me company.  Now I think I'm mourning the
loss of SLINKY...his personality, his sweetness, the amazing bond we
had.  Those are the things I can't ever get back, despite being able to
get new friends, etc.  So...it's a process I guess I have to go through,
but it's not fun!  I cried myself to sleep twice this week - holding his
favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat that looks like him (tho
he's way too small).
 
People have been fabulously supportive, though.  The vet sent me a card
with a very sweet note shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I
got cards in the mail from 2 friends.  Everyone's been checking on me
and MC and Barb have been talking to me almost 24/7  (THANKS
GUYS).  It's so great to have family and friends help you
through these times.
 
Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want me to be alone (he
knows I need some babies to take care of me! lol) and I promised him I
would give a good home to other cats.  So I've begun looking for 2 new
furbabes to adopt.  I actually applied for 2 at the Washington Animal
Rescue League:
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889
 
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096
 
When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of the staff mentioned
that they have a lot of apps in for Patience and that they were already
leaning toward someone before I came along, so it sounds like I may not
end up with her.  But she said there weren't many in on Rufus...because
his condition is scarier.  I pointed out that I work in disability
rights - it takes a lot to scare me! lol  They seemed to think this one
(below) would be a good match for Rufus since he's pretty quiet.
 
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136115
 
I've decided I definitely want special needs kitties...but I just can't
do another terminal illness (such as felv) again right now.  I don't
have the emotional resources...nor the financial.  And now that I
understand the potential costs of treatments, etc. I don't think it
would be very responsible of me to take in a + cat knowing I can't
afford to pay for what they may (probably will) need.  It's beginning to
seem, though, that the special needs kitties are fairly popular...so I'd
be willing to take in a healthy, middle-aged cat who's having trouble
getting adopted as well.
 
I'll let you all know what happens with the applications...and I know
you all will love them even if they're not positive!  ;)  
 
Thank you all so much for being here!  This list has been my lifeline
and I know I couldn't get through this stuff without you!!!  I hope all
your furbabies are doing well!!!
 
MJ and Angel Slinky  :)

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Marissa,

How are you doing today? You sound pretty upbeat in
your posts, so I hope you're feeling good. Slinky is
probably so happy to see you doing well, watching you
from the top of his 'tree in the sky'. 

:)
Wendy

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can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! 
~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~







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This is crazy...Fwd: [feline-hyperT] So what's in a can of dog food??

Don't read this if you really don't want to know
what's in pet food, because it's GROSS.  I will never
use 'by-product' again.  Note the correction at the
bottom of the article in the link.

:)
Wendy


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EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT: PET FOOD RECIPE?
SOURCE: Cornwall's Voice For Animals, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[From my friend on myspace] 3/22/07, Gayle writes: My brother has actually 
been to the [MENU FOODS] plant in Columbia/Lexington, South Carolina. (He 
automates machinery and they bought machinery from the company my brother 
works for.) He said it was DEPPLORABLE! Upon entering the road to the plant, 
there are barrels lined up, starting at the street. People from nearby areas 
bring their dead pets, cattle, road kill and shelters (their euthanized 
animals) and dump them in the barrels. The barrels are then taken inside the 
plant where the carcasses are boiled. They pull out the larger bones to 
resell as pet bones. The meat, hide, small bones and fur are ground up and 
sold as pet food to the companies on the recall list. My brother said the 
smell at that place is unbearable. He could not stay there because of the 
smell and knowing how they made the pet food. He said he could not stop from 
gagging... He said they also use rotten fish from the grocery store, old 
dead chickens. After his trip to that plant, he began making his own dog 
food for his dog
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Re: To Kelley: RE: Small meltdown


On 4/3/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

lololol...should I be laughing at this???  it does
sound crazy, but we all know you aren't.

thanks for the endorphins

:)
wendy


This is how the conversation goes

I'm sitting here crying, and the guy in the cube next to me says:
What's wrong?

Me:  (I don't remember name of cat) died.

Guy:  Oh, a close friend?

Me:  No, a cat

Guy:  I'm sorry you lost your cat.

Me:  No, (cat) was a friend's cat.

Guy:  Which friend?

Me:  Hideyo.

I don't remember how the rest went, but somehow it came out that
Hideyo was an internet friend.  So now they just kind of ignore me
when I'm crying.

Todays tears are sponsored by Sue's Pepper, from the feline heart
list, which I dared to sneak over and try to read, and I sorely regret
it.

Re: Hi Marissa

Marissa,

All of those furbabies look so precious!!!  I can see
why Patience is popular.  She definitely has a
heart-wrenching story to tell, but it's going to have
a beautiful ending, I know.  Have you been able to
spend any time with your prospective furbabies? 
Hopefully, that will give you some encouragement in
choosing the right kitties (or them choosing you).  We
completely understand your choice in not wanting
another FeLV+ kitty.  It's so hard, and yes, the
reality is that how a cat fares can depend on it's
guardian's finances.  You were wonderful to Slinky and
what a way to honor his memory by taking in two more
special needs babies.  I am going to go home and hug
all mine as soon as I can.

:)
Wendy

--- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Aw, thanks for asking Wendy!

   I'm doing okay.  The first several days after
 Slinky went to the bridge I really thought I was
 doing great!  But the last few nights have been
 pretty rough.  The guilt and what-if's started 2
 nights ago - if I'd caught the UTI sooner, gotten
 him in sooner - and to a better vet, done more, paid
 closer attention, etc  In my head I know that's
 not true, but as someone else said, grief is not
 logical...and neither is guilt!  

   I really started mourning Slink when I first found
 out how sick he was...but I think at that point I
 was mourning the loss of a friend, a companion,
 someone to keep me company.  Now I think I'm
 mourning the loss of SLINKY...his personality, his
 sweetness, the amazing bond we had.  Those are the
 things I can't ever get back, despite being able to
 get new friends, etc.  So...it's a process I guess I
 have to go through, but it's not fun!  I cried
 myself to sleep twice this week - holding his
 favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat that
 looks like him (tho he's way too small).

   People have been fabulously supportive, though. 
 The vet sent me a card with a very sweet note
 shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I got
 cards in the mail from 2 friends.  Everyone's been
 checking on me and MC and Barb have been talking to
 me almost 24/7  (THANKS GUYS).  It's
 so great to have family and friends help you through
 these times.

   Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want
 me to be alone (he knows I need some babies to take
 care of me! lol) and I promised him I would give a
 good home to other cats.  So I've begun looking for
 2 new furbabes to adopt.  I actually applied for 2
 at the Washington Animal Rescue League:
  

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889

  

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096

   When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of
 the staff mentioned that they have a lot of apps in
 for Patience and that they were already leaning
 toward someone before I came along, so it sounds
 like I may not end up with her.  But she said there
 weren't many in on Rufus...because his condition is
 scarier.  I pointed out that I work in disability
 rights - it takes a lot to scare me! lol  They
 seemed to think this one (below) would be a good
 match for Rufus since he's pretty quiet.

  

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136115

   I've decided I definitely want special needs
 kitties...but I just can't do another terminal
 illness (such as felv) again right now.  I don't
 have the emotional resources...nor the financial. 
 And now that I understand the potential costs of
 treatments, etc. I don't think it would be very
 responsible of me to take in a + cat knowing I can't
 afford to pay for what they may (probably will)
 need.  It's beginning to seem, though, that the
 special needs kitties are fairly popular...so I'd be
 willing to take in a healthy, middle-aged cat
 who's having trouble getting adopted as well.

   I'll let you all know what happens with the
 applications...and I know you all will love them
 even if they're not positive!  ;)  

   Thank you all so much for being here!  This list
 has been my lifeline and I know I couldn't get
 through this stuff without you!!!  I hope all your
 furbabies are doing well!!!

   MJ and Angel Slinky  :)
 
 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hey Marissa,
 
 How are you doing today? You sound pretty upbeat in
 your posts, so I hope you're feeling good. Slinky is
 probably so happy to see you doing well, watching
 you
 from the top of his 'tree in the sky'. 
 
 :)
 Wendy
 
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 committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it
 is the only thing that ever has! 
 ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
 
 
 
 


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Re: Hi Marissa

Thanks Wendy.  I first went to this shelter last week Thursday.  I already had 
Rufus in mind as well as a cally who had a hind leg amputated after a car 
accident.  However, the amputee wanted nothing to do with me...and apparently 
with any humans (they tell me he's not doing so well).  I hadn't seen Patience 
online (since shes' not listed as special needs), but when I saw her she just 
called my name!  And when I picked her up, she climbed right into my arms and 
wouldn't let go.  :)  I went back on Sunday afternoon and played with Rufus for 
about 30 minutes and held Patience twice (she can't go in the play rooms right 
now cuz she's on meds).  I went back again yesterday during the day and spent a 
little time with each of them.
   
  It's actually a really nice shelter...the condos (they say they're 
cageless) are made of some kind of durable plexiglass or something - not metal 
and have glass doors.  There's a whole wall of play rooms with cat trees and 
toys in each one.  The individual condos are climate controlled and include 
adjustable holes so they can give access to the next condo over, or close off 
access.  They even have classical music piped in and a large water fountain in 
the middle of the room with ledges on either side so the cats can sit and play 
with the water.  It's no-kill and they get TONS of animals from other shelters 
(Rufus and Patience both came from PA).  They also have a full vet hospital 
on-site, provide free spay/neuter to anyone in the metro area, and provide 
low-cost vet care to low-income families.  They even have an animal massage 
therapist on staff and do therapy with abused animals and those who've spent 
too much time in shelters.  If you're interested, it's
 www.warl.org.
   
  I'll keep you all updated.  I know I'll end up with the perfect kitties for 
me...in fact I'm sure Slinky's already picked them out!  :)
   
  MJ

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Marissa,

All of those furbabies look so precious!!! I can see
why Patience is popular. She definitely has a
heart-wrenching story to tell, but it's going to have
a beautiful ending, I know. Have you been able to
spend any time with your prospective furbabies? 
Hopefully, that will give you some encouragement in
choosing the right kitties (or them choosing you). We
completely understand your choice in not wanting
another FeLV+ kitty. It's so hard, and yes, the
reality is that how a cat fares can depend on it's
guardian's finances. You were wonderful to Slinky and
what a way to honor his memory by taking in two more
special needs babies. I am going to go home and hug
all mine as soon as I can.

:)
Wendy

--- Marissa Johnson 
wrote:

 Aw, thanks for asking Wendy!
 
 I'm doing okay. The first several days after
 Slinky went to the bridge I really thought I was
 doing great! But the last few nights have been
 pretty rough. The guilt and what-if's started 2
 nights ago - if I'd caught the UTI sooner, gotten
 him in sooner - and to a better vet, done more, paid
 closer attention, etc In my head I know that's
 not true, but as someone else said, grief is not
 logical...and neither is guilt! 
 
 I really started mourning Slink when I first found
 out how sick he was...but I think at that point I
 was mourning the loss of a friend, a companion,
 someone to keep me company. Now I think I'm
 mourning the loss of SLINKY...his personality, his
 sweetness, the amazing bond we had. Those are the
 things I can't ever get back, despite being able to
 get new friends, etc. So...it's a process I guess I
 have to go through, but it's not fun! I cried
 myself to sleep twice this week - holding his
 favorite pillow and petting the stuffed cat that
 looks like him (tho he's way too small).
 
 People have been fabulously supportive, though. 
 The vet sent me a card with a very sweet note
 shortly after our appointment, and yesterday I got
 cards in the mail from 2 friends. Everyone's been
 checking on me and MC and Barb have been talking to
 me almost 24/7 (THANKS GUYS). It's
 so great to have family and friends help you through
 these times.
 
 Despite all the grief, I know Slink would not want
 me to be alone (he knows I need some babies to take
 care of me! lol) and I promised him I would give a
 good home to other cats. So I've begun looking for
 2 new furbabes to adopt. I actually applied for 2
 at the Washington Animal Rescue League:
 

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8110889
 
 

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8136096
 
 When I went to visit them again yesterday, one of
 the staff mentioned that they have a lot of apps in
 for Patience and that they were already leaning
 toward someone before I came along, so it sounds
 like I may not end up with her. But she said there
 weren't many in on Rufus...because his condition is
 scarier. I pointed out that I work in disability
 rights - it takes a lot to scare me! lol They
 seemed to think this one (below)

OT: Andersoon Cooper tonight

2007-04-03 Thread Stray Cat Alliance

He's going to be talking about the pet food recall at 10 pm on CNN.
_
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Re: Hi Marissa


On 4/3/07, Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Wendy.  I first went to this shelter last week Thursday.  I already
had Rufus in mind as well as a cally who had a hind leg amputated after a
car accident.  However, the amputee wanted nothing to do with me...and
apparently with any humans (they tell me he's not doing so well).  I hadn't
seen Patience online (since shes' not listed as special needs), but when I
saw her she just called my name!  And when I picked her up, she climbed
right into my arms and wouldn't let go.  :)  I went back on Sunday afternoon
and played with Rufus for about 30 minutes and held Patience twice (she
can't go in the play rooms right now cuz she's on meds).  I went back again
yesterday during the day and spent a little time with each of them.

It's actually a really nice shelter...the condos (they say they're
cageless) are made of some kind of durable plexiglass or something - not
metal and have glass doors.  There's a whole wall of play rooms with cat
trees and toys in each one.  The individual condos are climate controlled
and include adjustable holes so they can give access to the next condo over,
or close off access.  They even have classical music piped in and a large
water fountain in the middle of the room with ledges on either side so the
cats can sit and play with the water.  It's no-kill and they get TONS of
animals from other shelters (Rufus and Patience both came from PA).  They
also have a full vet hospital on-site, provide free spay/neuter to anyone in
the metro area, and provide low-cost vet care to low-income families.  They
even have an animal massage therapist on staff and do therapy with abused
animals and those who've spent too much time in shelters.  If you're
interested, it's www.warl.org.

I'll keep you all updated.  I know I'll end up with the perfect kitties for
me...in fact I'm sure Slinky's already picked them out!  :)

MJ



What a great setup!  One day I am sure we will have the same.

I think my Morgana picked out little Tuffy for me.  Tuffy came all the
way from Ohio thanks to the help of a lot of wonderful people:)

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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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OT: Anyone have a Roomba promotional code they are not going to use?

Hey guys,

I am going to order a Roomba in the next few days and
was wondering if anyone has a promotional discount
code lying around that they aren't going to use or
some type of coupon?  Or, if you know where I can get
one, that would be great too!

Thanks for your help,
Wendy

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! 

  ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



 

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Re: OT: Andersoon Cooper tonight

Thanks!!!

:)
Wendy

--- Stray Cat Alliance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He's going to be talking about the pet food recall
 at 10 pm on CNN.

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 simple tips 

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Re: OT: Small meltdown

2007-04-03 Thread Sherry DeHaan

Wendy,meltdowns are normal for folks like us. :) I too still have them even 
though Maizee has been gone now  17 months.I still agonize over her last 
moments and if it should have been done differently.I too come here for comfort 
every once and awhile.Take care.
  Sherry and my furry boys

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey guys,

Why is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's
passing, I can burst into tears after having
flashbacks of the night he died? To a logical person
(being me), it sounds ridiculous and overdramatic. 
But the fact remains that when I allow myself to
remember what happened with Cricket the night he died,
and how horrible it was, it sends me straight into
meltdown. I am at work for heaven's sake. Usually,
when I think about Cricket, I don't think about that
one day in his life. But it seems so unfair that he
couldn't have a more peaceful death. I will never
forget his suffering, even knowing that he is now at
rest. Why do some people's/animal's last days of
their lives have to be filled with pain and suffering?
I just don't understand it. I think maybe all the
recent losses, and sadly there have been many, might
be bringing my memories back, but maybe that's a good
thing? Maybe we never really fully stop grieving, but
every little meltdown we have allows us to heal a
little more. 

Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
understanding of the meaning of life.
:)
Wendy

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! 
~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~





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Re: thank you

Try St. Francis.he obviously led her to you.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:50 AM
  Subject: Re: thank you


  Thank you for sharing the beauty of Mama Kitty's grave with us, I also hope 
that you will show us pictures one day.

  Cassandra
- Original Message - 
From: elizabeth trent 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: thank you


Thank you.

I am such an independent cuss -- never thought I would need support from 
anyone but you all have done so much to help me through Mama Kitty's illness 
and her death.  This group has been a valuable source of information and 
comfort.  I've come to think of you as family and I just can't see 
unsubscribing at this point.  I hope it is ok to stay. 

I do have one FeVL+ interest.  One of my ferals that I've been feeding for 
a couple of years -- I named him Zulu -- was captured and neutered by my 
neighbor (who is involved with cat rescue) last year.  He tested positive for 
FeVL and they would not allow him to be PTS (I am grateful to them for that).  
He is so very feral that there was no hope of ever being able to adopt him.  We 
all wrestled with the decision but we decided to return him to the wild.  We 
are well outside of the city limits and reasoned that since he is neutered he 
would be far less likely to bite anyone.  They clipped his ear to indicate that 
he was neutered and vaccinated.  The decision to set him free was a 
controversial one -- but I've seen too many cats here have to live their lives 
in cages and I pleaded with the cat rescue to set him free and they agreed.  We 
have one neighbor here who has outside kitties - and we contacted him first and 
sent him a lot of information on FeVL+ (although he was already very well 
educated) and he agreed that for our Zulu in this situation - this was by far 
the best decision. 

Since they released Zulu, I've constantly kept good food in the bistro here 
at Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa (and sometimes infirmary).  He has a 
healthy appetite and eats very well.  Zulu will now let me stand within one 
foot of the door (inside) while he eats (outside)..but he is constantly on 
guard to see if he needs to flee for his life.  I give him as much peace as 
possible since meals should be eaten in peace.  If we were ever to test him 
again, we would have to trap him - and he is now very wise to that.  I figure 
the best I can do is keep giving him quality food and clean water and sneak in 
supplements when I can. 

As I grieve it is good to know that there are so many of you who do 
understand.  There is nothing more heart wrenching than literally burying 
someone you love.  I can't remember if I told you but one neighbor gave me a 
beautiful granite stone that he found in Colorado the week before - it is about 
a foot wide and made of granite.  This stone marks Mama's grave...along with a 
beautiful gift from another neighbor:  she brought Mama a beautiful copper 
shepherd's hook...from this hangs a stone bird bath from a black chain that 
hangs low beside Mama Kitty's grave.  Mama did so love to watch the birdies.  

Mama's grave is surrounded by roses -- not just the wonderful perfectly 
formed Hybrid Tea roses for cutting (only fragrant ones planted here) -- but 
also several OGRs (Old Garden Roses) that are so wonderfully fragrant - like 
Bayse's purple (a rugosa) and some beautiful pink and fragrant pink bourbon 
roses..two Loetta Liggett's...can't name them all.  Clematis' wind up the old 
roses that bloom once so that there are blooms on them throughout the season  
There are also daffodils, irises and beautiful pink and white impatiens.  I 
planted a mini rose beside her grave this weekend - a prolific 
bloomer..fragrant and a soft peach color..delicate and beautiful like she was.  
I've been thinking of getting some guardian figures to protect her grave -- 
like Bastet or some lions...but I mostly want for it to be beautiful and 
peaceful and a place that calms the spirit of all who visit.  The place where 
she is buried will be the most beautiful part of this yard.  It meant so much 
to me that my parents asked if they could come over to see where she is buried. 
 They cried with me.  I am so very fortunate to be surrounded by love. 

I cannot tell you how many times this weekend I have seen Mama Kitty with 
me as I was sitting on her porch.  I see her everywhere.  I know she is with me.

Thanks for listening to me

Re: Feline blood for transfusion available


Felix sends you so much love.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: Feline blood for transfusion available


Oh no, I'm so sorry Hideyo.

On 4/2/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi, my Felix passes away –due to severe anemia, he had 4 transfusion 
during
the past couple of weeks – I hae 2 more units of blood that I purchased 
form

blood bank for my baby Felix available since Felix has gone to heaven –
please let me know if anyone needs transfusion for your kitty  - it's for
feline A type..



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Re: Too much bad news

Midnight left this world where he felt the safest--right by your side.  Know 
how much he adores you.  Ask him to visit.  He wants to but thinks he should 
wait until you are ready.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:29 AM
Subject: Too much bad news


I hate to add to the bad news but I just want everyone to know that I lost 
Midnight over the weekend.  He had started throwing up a lot on Thursday. 
He seemed a little slower than normal but he had no other symptoms.  I woke 
up Sunday morning about 4 am to find him curled up beside me but he was 
gone.  Thank you to everyone on this list.  You have all been so great and 
helpful.

Jennifer Madon

Re: cls

The only stupid question is the one that is unasked.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marissa Johnson 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:05 AM
  Subject: Re: cls


  Don't feel stupid!  It took me AGES to figure out what CLS was!!!  It's 
Candle Light Service - a website where there are memorials to our kitties who 
have gone to the bridge.

  I hope that helps...and this is one list where it's DEFINITELY okay to ask 
what might seem like stupid questions.  When I first got my Slink (who went 
to the bridge last week) I asked ALL KINDS of questions cuz he was my first 
kitty.

  Hope you're doing well!

  MJ

  Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I feel stupid, but could someone tell me what cls means? I assume it means 
someone's kitty has died, but just would like to know. I am fairly new to the 
lsit so I don't know all the abbreviations. 




  -Original Message- 
  From: Gussies mom 
  Sent: Apr 3, 2007 9:36 AM 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Subject: Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls 


  So sorry you had to lose your baby. What a lucky guy he was to have you.

  Beth

  JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
We had to put Hillman Waller to sleep last night, it was a hard 
decision but 
best for him. He was a 1.5 years and was the sweetest cat ever! 
Positive 
as a kitten and also developed lymphosarcoma, but even with the surgery 
that 
took out most of it near his throat, we think it came back. He went 
into 
respiratory failure last night. But I take comfort in knowing not only 
is 
he with all the wonderful feluk kitties that have passed on, he is also 
with 
Papoose, that we lost last may.
Jeni

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Re: Anyone have a Roomba promotional code they are not going to use?

I don't have the code but price them several placesI was looking 
and there is a really big difference.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; HyperT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: OT: Anyone have a Roomba promotional code they are not going to 
use?




Hey guys,

I am going to order a Roomba in the next few days and
was wondering if anyone has a promotional discount
code lying around that they aren't going to use or
some type of coupon?  Or, if you know where I can get
one, that would be great too!

Thanks for your help,
Wendy

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Re: Dry food recall



A friend just sent this website: 
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/brands4dept.asp?dept%5Fid=131mscssid=9U5S74A9R8F98P6CDC8MABC9FB388W8E


There are several foods that are grain free.  I'm to the point of thinking 
about home cooking for Dixie.  Or at least a combination of home cooking and 
canned/dry foods.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Dry food recall



Feeder Supply has it and I imagine it can be ordered on the internet.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Dry food recall



Where did you get it?

On 4/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The Merrick canned I am feeding does not have wheat gluten in it.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources





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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

Re: Dry food recall


I don't know what Feeder Supply is.  I went to a local pet store today
that sells premium food.  Unfortunately they sell no Felidae, and
Diamond Dry only.  I bought some Wellness canned, but ouch.  I can't
get to my feed store most of the time though..no time.

On 4/3/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Feeder Supply has it and I imagine it can be ordered on the internet.






If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message -
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Dry food recall


 Where did you get it?

 On 4/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Merrick canned I am feeding does not have wheat gluten in it.

 Phaewryn

 http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
 Special Needs Cat Resources




 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

 Please help Joey!
 http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia







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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

Re: Tomi's red blood cell count going down, any suggestions?

Hmm I think we must be talking about different blood values.  The chart on 
that site says normal RBC is about 5-10, so that is maybe where Joey is 
measuring a 2.59.


Tomi is measuring 17, where the normal range is 24-34, so that must be the 
PCV.  I am not really sure what the difference is though, as they both 
measure red blood cells from what I gather.


How is Joey doing, is he active at all, eating well?  Tomi isn't as active 
as normal, but he is eating, though sometimes he needs some encouragement.


Cassandra


- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Tomi's red blood cell count going down, any suggestions?



That is an awesome site.  Thank you!

Joey's RBC is 2.59.

So if 15-17 is considered severely anemic...what is 2.59 considered?

On 4/3/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

15-17 is considered severly anemic. That's about where my foster Stamp is
right now.

This is a great web page for cat Hemotology at different stages of life:

http://www.cathelp-online.com/health/glossary2.php

Beth


Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wish I could be of more help. Joey is on the same regimen and his
rbc was below 3 last he went to the doctor. It makes me think 17 is
really good:(.

On 4/2/07, C  J wrote:

 Just by way of background info:

 March 9, I took Tomi to the vet and found out he had Hemobartonella,
Feline
 Leukemia, and a red blood count of 9. The did a transfusion, bringing 
 his
 count up to 13. He started taking Doxycycline, and Prednisone, 2 pills 
 per

 day.

 One week later, his red blood cells were up to 17, and his Prednisone 
 was

 dropped to 1 pill per day.

 In another week, his red blood cells were 19, and the vet stopped 
 giving

him
 the Prednisone.

 I've noticed since he stopped the Prednisone that he became a little 
 less
 active, and when he went to the vet today, his red blood cells had 
 dropped

 to 17.

 The vet gave me another bottle of Prednisone, and I am supposed to
continue
 giving him 1 per day. Giving him this drug scares me, because I am 
 afraid

 it will weaken his immune system too much.

 I am also giving him Interferon (1cc per day), 1/4 tsp Mega C Plus, 1
 Transfer Factor capsule, and about 1/2 capsule of L-lysine. I've been
 giving these for 1-2 weeks in baby food.

 I asked the vet about Erythopotein, and she didn't think it would be of
much
 help since she didn't think Tomi's bone marrow was healthy enough to
respond
 to it. I could probably insist that we try it though if it might help. 
 The
 vet thinks that the FeLV is responsible for destroying the blood cells 
 in

 Tomi's bone marrow.

 I was really hoping that once we got rid of the Hemobartonella, that
Tomi's
 red blood count would get back to normal, but it looks like that may 
 not

be
 the case.

 This is so hard to deal with on a daily basis, never knowing if he's 
 going
 to get better, or if these are the last days I will get to spend with 
 him.


 Each kitty on this list that passes away brings tears to my eyes, and I
 can't help but wonder if my little boy might be next.

 If anyone has a suggestion of what else I might be able to do to help 
 him,

I
 would be greaty appreciative.

 Cassandra


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Re: Late FeLV diagnosis


Nathan,
I am so sorry you and Mao are going through this.  I'm saying prayers for
both of you.

elizabeth


On 4/3/07, Nathan Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yesterday I got the bad news that my boy Mao was FeLV+.  This was the
worst-case scenario and one that I had dismissed because he tested
negative when I rescued him from the street as a baby in October, as had
the only other cat he had contact with.

He saw the vet on his first visit, the next day for vaccinations and a
checkup, a few weeks later for boosters, again for a nasty fever in
December that cleared up shortly afterwards, and in January for neutering.
Other than the fever, the only problems he had were recurring diarrhea
that I tried to manage by modifying his diet and an occasional fit of
whooping that the vet had dismissed as hairballs.  Those worried me a bit,
but the vet's clean bill of health, his big appetite, energy, and growth
all reassured me.

Until recently.  Mao seemed to dull a bit, and started snoring during his
naps.  Over the past week, Mao developed a nasty case of earmites and
increased trouble breathing, progressing into fits of gasping for air.
Since he had no runny nose and his temperature was normal, I thought it
might be asthma.  I took him to the vet on Saturday, and he took a blood
sample and X-rayed him, finding a constriction in his trachea.  He
prescribed prednisone to try to make it easier for him to breathe as well
as treatment for the mites.  Then Sunday night, Mao almost instantly
developed a horrible eye infection.  The third eyelid of his right eye
closed over and swelled up, blinding him in that eye and making it
impossible for him to close it--meanwhile, his breathing deteriorated.  He
went back to another vet in the morning, and got eyedrops and ointment as
well as antibiotics.  It wasn't until later in the afternoon I got the
call that he had tested FeLV+.

Mao's breathing is not improving.  The slightest exertion is enough to
send him into a loud fit of labored gasping, and when he is not napping
every breath is strained--he can't climb his scratching post anymore,
which used to be his favorite perch.  Despite all that, he still wakes me
up in the morning purring and rubbing my face.  He still likes to eat and
pauses between bites of his favorite food to give me his happy look
through his squinting, red eyes.  He has always been such a happy cat, and
it still shows through all his suffering.

But if his condition doesn't get any better I don't think he can last much
longer.  It's hard to see this happen to Mao at such a young age (not even
8 months yet).  The vet who diagnosed him told me that he could have
gotten FeLV shortly before I found him and tested negative.  I didn't
think I would lose him so soon.

Re: Cassidy is a boy!


LOL  My Othello was Ophelia until he went to get spayed  :0)

elizabeth


On 4/3/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Ha! Ha! The vet called me with interesting news—Cassidy fooled us all! He
is now neutered. Luckily, I named him after a fictional cowboy, so the name
will stay.



I appreciate all the info on mixed households, but I'm still leery about
trying it. We'll see how the search for a home goes…and then I'll make a
decision when the time comes.



I've found places in Minnesota and Iowa that might be able to take him,
but I haven't contacted the one in Utah yet. The ones in MN and IA are both
sanctuaries for cats, and they are no-kill. The one in Minnesota is the
Feline Leukemia Care Center http://www.felineleukemiacarecenter.org which
only takes FeLV cats, but I haven't heard back from them. The one in Iowa
can be viewed at www.rustichollowshelter.org. but they have a waiting
list. I'll just have to wait and see.



I apologize for not responding to the other posts at this time—I'm swamped
with following leads for Cassidy, but I want to keep active on this mail
list even if I don't have a FeLV baby in the future. My poor students…but
right now I care about cats more than them!



Wendy, I should have known that I'd find other English people on here! I
think all my English professors in undergrad had cats—some with an entire
household of them. I'll write down what you're reading, and look into it
later—I'll add it to my must-read list. Why is it that English-minded people
(or literature enthusiasts) are so compassionate with animals? Maybe it's
because our studies (and our paychecks) have taught us that not everything
valuable and honorable involves a price tag.



Linda Hogan has a great book called *Intimate Nature: The Bond Between
Women and Animals*. Perhaps many of you would find it comforting.



Well, back to work for Cassidy the Cowboy Kitty! I'll let you all know how
it goes…



Melissa, Osmond, NE

To give a thing a name, a label, a handle; to rescue it from anonymity,
to pluck it out of the Place of Nothingness, in short to identify it--well,
that's a way of bringing the said thing into being. --Iff, the Water Genie

Re: Cassidy is a boy!

2007-04-03 Thread Chris Behnke

Same here, Mack (short for MacQuyver) was Sophia until we notied him 'laying' 
on top of the other females.  Thankfully the other females were already taken 
care of:)

Chris

  - Original Message - 
  From: elizabeth trent 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Cassidy is a boy!

  LOL  My Othello was Ophelia until he went to get spayed  :0)

  elizabeth

  On 4/3/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Ha! Ha! The vet called me with interesting news—Cassidy fooled us all! He 
is now neutered. Luckily, I named him after a fictional cowboy, so the name 
will stay. 

I appreciate all the info on mixed households, but I'm still leery about 
trying it. We'll see how the search for a home goes…and then I'll make a 
decision when the time comes. 

I've found places in Minnesota and Iowa that might be able to take him, but 
I haven't contacted the one in Utah yet. The ones in MN and IA are both 
sanctuaries for cats, and they are no-kill. The one in Minnesota is the Feline 
Leukemia Care Center http://www.felineleukemiacarecenter.org which only takes 
FeLV cats, but I haven't heard back from them. The one in Iowa can be viewed at 
www.rustichollowshelter.org. but they have a waiting list. I'll just have to 
wait and see. 

I apologize for not responding to the other posts at this time—I'm swamped 
with following leads for Cassidy, but I want to keep active on this mail list 
even if I don't have a FeLV baby in the future. My poor students…but right now 
I care about cats more than them! 

Wendy, I should have known that I'd find other English people on here! I 
think all my English professors in undergrad had cats—some with an entire 
household of them. I'll write down what you're reading, and look into it 
later—I'll add it to my must-read list. Why is it that English-minded people 
(or literature enthusiasts) are so compassionate with animals? Maybe it's 
because our studies (and our paychecks) have taught us that not everything 
valuable and honorable involves a price tag. 

Linda Hogan has a great book called Intimate Nature: The Bond Between Women 
and Animals. Perhaps many of you would find it comforting. 

Well, back to work for Cassidy the Cowboy Kitty! I'll let you all know how 
it goes…

Melissa, Osmond, NE

To give a thing a name, a label, a handle; to rescue it from anonymity, to 
pluck it out of the Place of Nothingness, in short to identify it--well, that's 
a way of bringing the said thing into being. --Iff, the Water Genie

Re: Late FeLV diagnosis

I'm sorry that Mao is ill.  At least if he is still showing his happy 
personality, you know that he's not giving up on himself yet.


Praying for Mao that he pulls through this and stays with you for quite 
awhile longer.


Cassandra


- Original Message - 
From: Nathan Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: Late FeLV diagnosis



Yesterday I got the bad news that my boy Mao was FeLV+.  This was the
worst-case scenario and one that I had dismissed because he tested
negative when I rescued him from the street as a baby in October, as had
the only other cat he had contact with.

He saw the vet on his first visit, the next day for vaccinations and a
checkup, a few weeks later for boosters, again for a nasty fever in
December that cleared up shortly afterwards, and in January for neutering.
Other than the fever, the only problems he had were recurring diarrhea
that I tried to manage by modifying his diet and an occasional fit of
whooping that the vet had dismissed as hairballs.  Those worried me a bit,
but the vet's clean bill of health, his big appetite, energy, and growth
all reassured me.

Until recently.  Mao seemed to dull a bit, and started snoring during his
naps.  Over the past week, Mao developed a nasty case of earmites and
increased trouble breathing, progressing into fits of gasping for air.
Since he had no runny nose and his temperature was normal, I thought it
might be asthma.  I took him to the vet on Saturday, and he took a blood
sample and X-rayed him, finding a constriction in his trachea.  He
prescribed prednisone to try to make it easier for him to breathe as well
as treatment for the mites.  Then Sunday night, Mao almost instantly
developed a horrible eye infection.  The third eyelid of his right eye
closed over and swelled up, blinding him in that eye and making it
impossible for him to close it--meanwhile, his breathing deteriorated.  He
went back to another vet in the morning, and got eyedrops and ointment as
well as antibiotics.  It wasn't until later in the afternoon I got the
call that he had tested FeLV+.

Mao's breathing is not improving.  The slightest exertion is enough to
send him into a loud fit of labored gasping, and when he is not napping
every breath is strained--he can't climb his scratching post anymore,
which used to be his favorite perch.  Despite all that, he still wakes me
up in the morning purring and rubbing my face.  He still likes to eat and
pauses between bites of his favorite food to give me his happy look
through his squinting, red eyes.  He has always been such a happy cat, and
it still shows through all his suffering.

But if his condition doesn't get any better I don't think he can last much
longer.  It's hard to see this happen to Mao at such a young age (not even
8 months yet).  The vet who diagnosed him told me that he could have
gotten FeLV shortly before I found him and tested negative.  I didn't
think I would lose him so soon.




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(Totally OT) What goes into pet foods

http://www.frrhealthypet.com/id35.html
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GA - 2 FELV+ cats need home

Posted by: catwomanofatlanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]   catwomanofatlanta 
Sun Apr 1, 2007 2:31 pm (PST) 
I am trying to find homes for two FELV Males, one is black long haired, 
the other looks like a Russian Blue. I have found groups that will take 
FIV kittis, but no one who will take FELV kitties. I foster other cats 
so I have to keep both of these guys isolated. I hate to see them live 
in limbo, when they are both such sweet, loving guys. Can anyone help 
find them homes? 

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Re: thank you


That is a lovely idea.  I have long admired your signature file

elizabeth


On 4/3/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Try St. Francis.he obviously led her to you.






 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message -
*From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:50 AM
*Subject:* Re: thank you


Thank you for sharing the beauty of Mama Kitty's grave with us, I also
hope that you will show us pictures one day.

Cassandra

- Original Message -
*From:* elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:16 AM
*Subject:* thank you


Thank you.

I am such an independent cuss -- never thought I would need support from
anyone but you all have done so much to help me through Mama Kitty's illness
and her death.  This group has been a valuable source of information and
comfort.  I've come to think of you as family and I just can't see
unsubscribing at this point.  I hope it is ok to stay.

I do have one FeVL+ interest.  One of my ferals that I've been feeding for
a couple of years -- I named him Zulu -- was captured and neutered by my
neighbor (who is involved with cat rescue) last year.  He tested positive
for FeVL and they would not allow him to be PTS (I am grateful to them for
that).  He is so very feral that there was no hope of ever being able to
adopt him.  We all wrestled with the decision but we decided to return him
to the wild.  We are well outside of the city limits and reasoned that since
he is neutered he would be far less likely to bite anyone.  They clipped his
ear to indicate that he was neutered and vaccinated.  The decision to set
him free was a controversial one -- but I've seen too many cats here have to
live their lives in cages and I pleaded with the cat rescue to set him free
and they agreed.  We have one neighbor here who has outside kitties - and we
contacted him first and sent him a lot of information on FeVL+ (although he
was already very well educated) and he agreed that for our Zulu in this
situation - this was by far the best decision.

Since they released Zulu, I've constantly kept good food in the bistro
here at Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa (and sometimes infirmary).  He has
a healthy appetite and eats very well.  Zulu will now let me stand within
one foot of the door (inside) while he eats (outside)..but he is constantly
on guard to see if he needs to flee for his life.  I give him as much peace
as possible since meals should be eaten in peace.  If we were ever to test
him again, we would have to trap him - and he is now very wise to that.  I
figure the best I can do is keep giving him quality food and clean water and
sneak in supplements when I can.

As I grieve it is good to know that there are so many of you who do
understand.  There is nothing more heart wrenching than literally burying
someone you love.  I can't remember if I told you but one neighbor gave me a
beautiful granite stone that he found in Colorado the week before - it is
about a foot wide and made of granite.  This stone marks Mama's
grave...along with a beautiful gift from another neighbor:  she brought Mama
a beautiful copper shepherd's hook...from this hangs a stone bird bath from
a black chain that hangs low beside Mama Kitty's grave.  Mama did so love to
watch the birdies.

Mama's grave is surrounded by roses -- not just the wonderful perfectly
formed Hybrid Tea roses for cutting (only fragrant ones planted here) -- but
also several OGRs (Old Garden Roses) that are so wonderfully fragrant - like
Bayse's purple (a rugosa) and some beautiful pink and fragrant pink bourbon
roses..two Loetta Liggett's...can't name them all.  Clematis' wind up the
old roses that bloom once so that there are blooms on them throughout the
season  There are also daffodils, irises and beautiful pink and white
impatiens.  I planted a mini rose beside her grave this weekend - a prolific
bloomer..fragrant and a soft peach color..delicate and beautiful like she
was.  I've been thinking of getting some guardian figures to protect her
grave -- like Bastet or some lions...but I mostly want for it to be
beautiful and peaceful and a place that calms the spirit of all who visit.
The place where she is buried will be the most beautiful part of this yard.
It meant so much to me that my parents asked if they could come over to see
where she is buried.  They cried with me.  I am so very fortunate to be
surrounded by love.

I cannot tell you how many times this weekend I have seen Mama Kitty with
me as I was sitting on her porch.  I see her everywhere.  I know she

Re: OT: Small meltdown


It leaves such a hole in your heart.  They love you
unconditionally...nothing can fill that void but a lot of love and a lot of
time.

elizabeth


On 4/3/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey guys,

Why is it that even a year and a half after Cricket's
passing, I can burst into tears after having
flashbacks of the night he died?  To a logical person
(being me), it sounds ridiculous and overdramatic.
But the fact remains that when I allow myself to
remember what happened with Cricket the night he died,
and how horrible it was, it sends me straight into
meltdown.  I am at work for heaven's sake.  Usually,
when I think about Cricket, I don't think about that
one day in his life.  But it seems so unfair that he
couldn't have a more peaceful death.  I will never
forget his suffering, even knowing that he is now at
rest.  Why do some people's/animal's last days of
their lives have to be filled with pain and suffering?
I just don't understand it.  I think maybe all the
recent losses, and sadly there have been many, might
be bringing my memories back, but maybe that's a good
thing?  Maybe we never really fully stop grieving, but
every little meltdown we have allows us to heal a
little more.

Thanks for letting me ramble about my lack of
understanding of the meaning of life.
:)
Wendy

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!

~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~






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Re: Please add Hillman Waller to cls

I'm so sorry for your loss Jeni, it sounds like you did everything you could 
for him,
and he is now at peace. My sympathy goes out to you.

Phaewryn

Re: Tomi's red blood cell count going down, any suggestions?

Your vet is wrong. It COMMONLY take 6 weeks.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
Special Needs Cat Resources

Re: Dry food recall

I got it locally at Guy's Farm and Yard in Montpelier, VT... but you can use the
Merrick website to locate a store near you, that's what I did.
http://www.merrickpetcare.com/locator/

Phaewryn

Where did you get it?

On 4/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Merrick canned I am feeding does not have wheat gluten in it.

Re: Small meltdown