RE: Ember and weight loss

2007-09-27 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
We had a 19 year old cat that ate nothing but wet Whiskas (microwaved!) her entire life!!! My mom and I laugh and laugh about that now that we are spending so much money on Wellness and supplements! Who knows?! I try to tell her that now with the proper food and supplements, maybe our "n

Re: Vaccinations

2007-09-27 Thread Jane Lyons
Susan I think that your vet is right. I would never consider vaccinating a sick kitty. This is a link to C.A. Diodati. http://www.freeyurko.bizland.com/ diodaticv.html She has researched and written exhaustively about vaccinations, and is considered a sane and reasoned voice on the subject.

Re: Vaccinations

2007-09-27 Thread Marylyn
I can't address the vaccinations that Autumn got but my holistic vets are recommending titers to determine what a cat needs. Apparently a lot of animals are having trouble with vaccinations. Others on the list can address this better than I. Dixie tested FeLV+ and will never receive another v

Re: Ember and weight loss

2007-09-27 Thread Marylyn
I'm a big believer in Just Born with Colostrum..high quality/high calorie in powder or pre- mixed. I frequently add it to food for Dixie as well as for the ferals who are going into the winter and need to bulk up. Dixie and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt enjoy(ed) the pre-mixed for

Vaccinations

2007-09-27 Thread Susan Ang
Since Autumn has been sick the vet didn't want to give her her booster. The first time she got sick was two days after her first shots. She was found outside and was relatively healthy. Has anyone else had problems with a cat with viremia and vaccinations? Just curious. ~Susan A.

Re: Ember and weight loss

2007-09-27 Thread MaryChristine
i think that many of us have found, no matter what WE might have thought, that sometimes the best diet for a cat--especially one with an underlying problem--is whatever the heck they'll eat we all know 20-year-old cats who've never seen anything but meowmix, after all. sigh. wondering if you d

Re: Ember and weight loss

2007-09-27 Thread Jane Lyons
Hi Lance, Nina suggested I try feeding dry 'kitten' food (any decent brand) because the caloric value is much higher. I did, and MeMe has been eating it and steadily gaining weight. If Ember likes Sheba, I would bump it up. If she needs to gain weight I'd offer her anything (again, decent quality

Ember and weight loss

2007-09-27 Thread Lance
Ember went to the vet today for a CBC. We go roughly every three months. For the last eight or nine months, Ember has been losing weight. This particular problem started around last Christmas, when Ember developed diarrhea, and I had no idea of how to get rid of it. Pumpkin helped a little,

Re: Autumn - Update

2007-09-27 Thread Marylyn
Thanks for the link. I have a holistic vet but like to be able to point friends in other areas of the country to a source. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelt

Re: Autumn - Update

2007-09-27 Thread Jane Lyons
Hi Susan I'm happy to hear Autumn is doing better. Here is a link to the list for the Association of Homeopathic Veterinarians: http://www.holisticvetlist.com/ I use both an allopathic and homeopathic vet and with the help of really generous and experienced people on this list, my once very

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-27 Thread MaryChristine
another thing to look for in the archives is trichomonas--becoming much more of a problem in cats in just the last couple of years, and producer of really stinky poo. phaewyrn had posted all the current research awhile back, but i'm not sure she kept updating it--there's new tests since then (d

Re: We are not vets

2007-09-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
Phaewryn was taking a break. She isn't good at regulating her words so much, but she IS good at knowing when she needs to step back in order to not become disruptive. IMHO. On 9/27/07, Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yes, I understand this, but isn't this why Phaewryn or Jennifer

RE: We are not vets

2007-09-27 Thread Melissa Lind
Yes, I understand this, but isn't this why Phaewryn or Jennifer or whoever left a while back? If I remember right, she was disgusted by the use of Animal Communicators because they are not scientifically proven, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she felt that suggesting the use of an AC doe

RE: We are not vets

2007-09-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Why don't we all just drop this and move on? Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }

RE: We are not vets

2007-09-27 Thread Melissa Lind
MC, I was referring to your comment that Susan is not licensed to make those statements. All I was asking was that if you do not agree with what she recommended, that you set us straight instead of continuing the fight. I agree that newcomers may not know when they are getting harmful informati

Re: We are not vets

2007-09-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
I'm with MC on this. This has been a problem on other lists that I am on and fortunately the mods are willing to kick people to the curb if they are giving out questionable advice, especially without some sort of express disclaimer. Newbies do not understand that advice may be very wrong. Oft

Re: We are not vets

2007-09-27 Thread MaryChristine
for many years, none of us had any problem saying, "in my opinion," or, "this is what my vet recommended, " or "this is what has worked for me"--and newcomers do NOT know that there are no vets on the list, they do NOT know when they are being given flat-out WRONG information. there has been DANGER

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
Yes, that makes sense. I have a vet that only charges $15 for a fecal, but I know other vets charge more. And almost all rescue groups are disorganized. I've been told I am one of the most organized ones, and I'm terribly disorganized - there just are not enough hours in the day. On 9/27/07,

Re: Books, Lists and Other Resources

2007-09-27 Thread MaryChristine
i have to agree with kerry--the archives on this list are great. i know that the winn feline foundation has put out 2006 position papers/updates on FIV and FeLV, available on their site (i don't agree with all their statements, but understand that until the actual research proves something, the an

RE: Kitten Update

2007-09-27 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
I did read that coccidia has a 13 day incubation period. And yes, I needed approval to be able to take a stool sample into the vet that treats the cats for this group, if I want to be charged the discounted rate (which as a foster, I feel is only fair). I could take the cats to my own vet or

RE: Books, Lists and Other Resources

2007-09-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
You'd be hard pushed to find better info than that in the archives on this list. This was a second-to-none resource, put together by the folks who really knew what they were talking about--folks with years of solid experience of caring for FeLV cats. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

Re: Books, Lists and Other Resources

2007-09-27 Thread Lance
Susan, I like _The New Natural Cat_ by Anitra Frazier. I don't agree with everything that she says, for example, how she views feeding, but that's just my take on it. It's still an excellent book. As with anything you read here, it's a good idea to discuss anything you'd like to pursue that you re

Re: Kitten Update

2007-09-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
On 9/27/07, Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My three kittens are status-quo. I started them on a probiotic made by > Eagle Brand on Tues. evening, so they've had a day and a half of that and > we're still having diarrhea/soft stools/cow pies (and stinky!). I don't > know how long i

Kitten Update

2007-09-27 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
My three kittens are status-quo. I started them on a probiotic made by Eagle Brand on Tues. evening, so they've had a day and a half of that and we're still having diarrhea/soft stools/cow pies (and stinky!). I don't know how long it takes the probiotic to work though? I have talked to the v

RE: Remove me from this list

2007-09-27 Thread Melissa Lind
I think you have to remove yourself: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/options/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debi Holmes Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Remove me fro

RE: Books, Lists and Other Resources

2007-09-27 Thread Melissa Lind
I'm interested too Susan, so I hope you find something. I'm very happy for Autumn! I'll keep my fingers (and all our paws at home) crossed for her. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Ang Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:23 AM To: fel

RE: Remove me from this list

2007-09-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Please see replies to similar request earlier. You have to unsubscribe yourself. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debi Holmes Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Remove me from this

Remove me from this list

2007-09-27 Thread Debi Holmes
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Books, Lists and Other Resources

2007-09-27 Thread Susan Ang
What are some other resources people use? I was surprised to find there aren't any books on FeLV - at least none I could find. Are there other places out there on the web that people frequent for info? I'm one of those people who read and read and read on a subject that bothers me. I am working on

RE: OT: Kitten Question

2007-09-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Mary Christine, I don't agree with everything Susan has said or the way she has said it, but in this case she has no more overstepped the bounds than anyone else who answers a question by saying "you should try immunoregulin" or "sounds like anemia". Obviously Caroline can't print off Susan's e-

RE: seeking home for adult feluk positive cat - family doesn't careabout him

2007-09-27 Thread Melissa Lind
Jeni, So sorry to hear about a person who won't listen to suggestions. Usually it is the owner's problem, not the cat's, that causes these issues. I know she's not listening, but really, you have to tell her my experience. My Bandit (10 years old now) was peeing in the heat vent last winter. Th

Hello and Goodby

2007-09-27 Thread Sheila Smith
I live with 19 felv+ cats in my home, I am an RN and my husband is a veterinarian specializing in cats and a focus on Felv cats. I just got around to joining the list last night after it was suggested a few weeks ago by my friend Susan Dubose that I might have good resources and knowledge to off

RE: offlist

2007-09-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
>>>It just seems like if everyone is really so concerned about all the kitties out there in the world, they would stay on this list just to possibly save a few more of them, even if those kitties belong to people you don't agree with. <<< It's important to stress that people did not leave becau

We are not vets

2007-09-27 Thread Melissa Lind
I think we all can agree that an unspoken disclaimer exists in this community. None of us is a vet. We give advice based upon experience. It is understood that we are not prescribing anything as a vet would. If a person does not agree with a suggestion for a sick cat, it is his/her choice to speak

RE: offlist

2007-09-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Colby, if you're still here, it looks like you need a little of that true peace yourself. Saying "please" when you're yelling doesn't mean you're being anything but rude. You apparently subscribed, you have to unsubscribe yourself. *Please* get a grip. Diane R.

RE: offlist

2007-09-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Colby, on the 1st of every month the administrator sends an email to the list that includes details of how to unsubscribe. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colby Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: offlist

Re: seeking home for adult feluk positive cat - family doesn't care about him

2007-09-27 Thread Sally Davis
HI Jeni I guess the number one question is, where is this cat? sally On 9/27/07, JENI RECA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Seeking home for an adult feluk positive cat (this is not my cat). Male, > neutered, grey and white, 4 year old cat named scooter. Family especially > the wife want

RE: offlist

2007-09-27 Thread Kat
Hi Colby, If you go to this website: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/options/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org You can unsubscribe from this list by enetering your email and clicking on the "Unsubscribe" button. Hope that helps. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Colby wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Sep

RE: offlist

2007-09-27 Thread Colby
I've been trying to get off this list for about 5 months now, and the mail wont stop. CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE STOP EMAILING ME?!! "To acheive true peace, we must first look at ourselves, for the true path to enlightenment starts from