Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD -from tonya
Hi Catherine, I'm not on list very much. I have had a felv positive cat since 2001. No one ever 'caught' it from her. 2 years ago I took in 2 kittens with genetic problems. One has chronic herpes in her eye and never grew to a normal size. I vaccinated them and boostered them before bringing in with my other cats. They are still negative. My felv cat and my next oldest cat are not in great health. I watch their numbers (get blood checked). Neither has kidney problems yet, but vet told me that's the way most indoor cats die. And I've known it to be true with my negative cats. I don't think I would give felv vacination to a cat who is already sick, or the other cat who is negative. That cat will stay negative. Also, if they both had vaccine and booster (on time) when they were young, I don't think a booster would make a difference. People don't keep getting measles, mumps, chicken pox vaccinations over and over. And if you happen to still get the mumps (like I did) they didn't give me a new mumps vaccination. Unless I've missed something in this thread, I would go through archives and look for vitamins, herbs, special foods, etc... that others have used. I would put them both on a kidney diet. (My vet just told me that the Prescription kidney diets are starting to change so I'm not sure which one I'd use. Research it.) I would also make sure both cats drink lots and lots of water. When I change a bowl, my oldest cat drinks. So I change it every time I walk by. With 2 cats you could get a fountain. If possible, go to wet food if that's not what you're using. I would fatten up if they are thin. L-Lysine, Vitamin C, Fish oil, for sure. I don't post often, as I said. Add my name to subject line if you have question for me. I wish you the best of luck. Tonya From: Sharon Catalan scata...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs Hello Catherine, My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old. 3 years ago, he was diagnosed with Felv. He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever. Try it. It may lengthen the life of your kitty. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, I-Chun C. C. Chang changic...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Felvalk friends, I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the treatment about my currently very sick cat. My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...) After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another cat, who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years. From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV. Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on him). We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc. Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with me... Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much! I. Catherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___
Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
I went with an outoor love seat and 2 chairs with removable cushions. I have a glider already. If someone comes over I'll get the cushions out of the spare bedroom and put them on the patio furniture. lol. I think you could mix the cat attract. Maybe start out with it straight, and if it works, start mixing regular back in I had one cat years ago that cat attract worke for. I also know people use the small kiddy wading pools for litter boxesI've never tried that, but when it got bad in the past, I just put litter boxes in every room they used. I sat them on the sofas, on a chest at the bottom of my bed, etc... I'm down to 5 cats, but I still have to separate food and water dishes in all different rooms I always have more food bowls than there are cats. You might increase the number of litter boxes and spread them out. The cats do like to corner and pounce on unsuspecting victims eating or in the litterbox! God bless you and all who rescue. Believe it or not, I've had more dog problems recently. I haven't even moved the patio furniture from the basement where it was delivered up to the living room. My old sofas are in various stages of being taken apart since I can't give them to Goodwill! I've been 'handicapping' the back deck stairs with lights and astro turf to prevent falls from a couple of elderly dogs Happy New Year! tonya From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice? To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro. Attach one side to the underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material. It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa. You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them. You can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old furniture. Doesn't do any damage. The small hole it makes closes up when the pin is removed. Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover? You can have the back plasticized with a heat process. You have to look this up in the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that. As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat. I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter. Can it be mixed with pine litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive. I usually get donated litter here. I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I no longer use a pooper scooper. I use a small yard shovel. Sigh. The President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn litter box protocol. They were rescued after their former owner passed away. They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable. It seems like the cat rescue movement is filled with saints and angels, the best of the human species. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
Positively crazy! lol! From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice? Tonya, You have such positive outlook, god bless you! Sent from my iPad On Nov 14, 2012, at 16:32, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Lee, I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on hard tile floors Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking. Not too comfy, but I live by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have company. I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it. Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep! I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have the power! I saw a lots great ideas! My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will eventually have kidney problems true. tonya From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice? To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro. Attach one side to the underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material. It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa. You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them. You can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old furniture. Doesn't do any damage. The small hole it makes closes up when the pin is removed. Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover? You can have the back plasticized with a heat process. You have to look this up in the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that. As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat. I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter. Can it be mixed with pine litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive. I usually get donated litter here. I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I no longer use a pooper scooper. I use a small yard shovel. Sigh. The President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn litter box protocol. They were rescued after their former owner passed away. They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable. It seems like the cat rescue movement is filled with saints and angels, the best of the human species. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
I don't care what it looks like. I care what it smells like. Lol. I did order some patio furniture from Home Depot. It's not that comfortable, but I only put cushions on the chair I'll be sitting in since I live by myself. When I go to bed I throw the cushions in the spare bedroom. I don't have to cover or vacuum them because I don't take them out unless someone comes over. As soon as they leave I put the cushions away. If a cushion does get peed on it can be washed. I have nothing upholstered left in my house. It does look better, but mostly it saves me all the work of covering it and vacuuming it, and washing all the various coverings. Also was cheap because I bought it off season. Additionally if a cushion gets ruined I can always by new patio furniture cushions in the future. I'm hoping this will make things cheaper. I typically take any couch friends are giving away and throw it away when it gets peed on in a place where the cats have uncovered all plastic tonya From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com To: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Sounds perfect to me! Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need. I live in South Texas. We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to a rural area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to deal with stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own ordinances, I also have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking crawlies. I tend to stay away from anything upholstered in favor of washable pillows, washable patio cushions, large towels from Goodwill and snuggy cat beds and blankets. Anything that can't be hosed down or tossed into the washing machine has no place in a house that 38 cats call home. As long as I can park my rump on something that is clean, won't have any hidden, stinging surprises and is fairly comfortable, I don't care what it looks like. Fortunately, almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm normal. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
This happened to one of my cats. He ended up negative. I hope the same happens for yours. tonya From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home Sandy hit us hard! We had 3 feet of heavy wet snow which pulled down trees as well as electric and phone lines. I had no idea we'd get hit so hard this far inland, as we are in the eastern mountains of WV, but we had no electricity for two weeks and we still don't have a phone or internet service. We have to drive out to a place that has service. Anyway, I was not able to check into the group all this time, and I was very worried about that cat in Ohio who was abandoned. Now I know both cats are fine and have found a home. THANK YOU A MILLION TIMES for your kindness in taking these poor babies. The woman who abandoned them should be ashamed of herself. I'd like to see her chained to her front porch all winter with no food or shelter! Lorrie and 24 rescued cats On 10-31, Kathryn Green wrote: Thanks to all for kind words. I am what I am - an animal lover. For those who care to know: I got both cats tho had to drive all the way to camp ground, (abt 6 hrs round trip), as cats were uncooperative to the point of downright hostility when Marcia's brother, Craig, had them in cardboard carriers. Cat scratch fever! He ended up putting them/in folding dog crate til I got there. Appears the grey one (actually more of a brown/black/grey tabby), was NOT the one the woman had deserted. The smaller black female was hers. The grey is a battle scarred fully intact male who roamed the campground. Craig had the honor of naming him - Ozzie it is. Oz for short. I am concerned about him as he is hoarse, has a funny nose, tearing eyes and sneezesupper resp issues at the very least I suspect. As soon as I closed them in my master bathroom (quarantine), he spent over 1/2 hr scarfing down food and water. Smaller black cat appears to have absolutely NO white on her. Not on chest, feet, tip of tail, nothing. Never seen one pure black before. She is a lover/lap cat. First thing out of carrier she made one round of bathroom and used the litter pan. My kind of Kitty. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive cat DD is doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents over the summer, and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet visit found her healthy I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating bills in the winter! My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to no effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in plastic and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the plastic away and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a love seat turned upside down in my living room right now where I gave up! tonya From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with bladder incontinence. Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing. With all the cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least one or two of them. Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable mattress pads for a while. She actually wasn't incontinent but she couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the mattress pads. Then I purchased several of the washable types when one of my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box. You can also purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing machine if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol. It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates. But in the summer, if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are disposable. The washable are more economical. You can even make up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone. If an accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for sleeping in the bed. For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor eliminator. I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart. It doesn't have any added scent as a cover up. Sometimes I think I prefer the odor of cat pee to those awful perfumes they dump into deodorizers. When you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays wet for at least 24 hours. If it dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work. You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up with. There are many brands and many prices. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
Thanks Lee, I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on hard tile floors Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking. Not too comfy, but I live by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have company. I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it. Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep! I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have the power! I saw a lots great ideas! My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will eventually have kidney problems true. tonya From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice? To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro. Attach one side to the underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material. It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting away off the sofa. You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them. You can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old furniture. Doesn't do any damage. The small hole it makes closes up when the pin is removed. Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover? You can have the back plasticized with a heat process. You have to look this up in the phone book though, under plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that. As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat. I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter. Can it be mixed with pine litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive. I usually get donated litter here. I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I no longer use a pooper scooper. I use a small yard shovel. Sigh. The President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn litter box protocol. They were rescued after their former owner passed away. They are older cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable. It seems like the cat rescue movement is filled with saints and angels, the best of the human species. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09
I'm so sorry for your loss. tonya --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 4:42 PM I had to make that last vet trip with my dear sweet Mattie today. She lost the use of her back legs last week due to neurological issues from the FeLV. The paralysis spread and she had lost bladder and bowel control. She was still eating and grooming herself but I couldn't wait until she was suffering. She deserved better than that. She fell asleep in my arms from the sedative and never felt the 2nd shot. Even though blind since birth she was the most inquisitive kitten I've ever had. No challenge was too great for her. She is the last of a litter of 4 positive babies I rescued last summer. What amazes me is that their mom and 3 aunts, all positives and now spayed, are still doing fine. All I can say is Mattie had a wonderful 12 months wanting for nothing and teaching me so much. I learned not to let a handicap limit me. It sure didn't limit her love of life. She is now at the Rainbow Bridge with Bright Eyes, Houdini, and CJ. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry, Sherry. tonya --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:53 PM We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite a character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other Sids kids with his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he was going to hit them.He also would scratch at your foot to get your attention.He also would put his paw up on your back while you sat on the floor.He sure made it clear he wanted to be loved. :) Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good byes today and he purred like a motor boat.He also gave me a quick kiss on my hand..We will miss you our beautiful black tripod boy. :( Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision
Hi Lorrie, This response is very late I know. My vets won't come to my home to euthanize, but if you look in the phone book you can possibly find a 'mobile vet' who will. I'm sorry you are going through this. It is so hard. tonya --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 4:02 PM Dear Friends, I have a difficult decision to make, and I hope you can help... I have several FelV cats at a shelter I have in town. Most remain in good health by all appearances, however one 8 year old female has been steadily losing weight, she is now very anemic; extremely emaciatedm and she stopped eating two days ago. She will still lick a bit of baby food from my fingers, and she is still drinking water, but this is all. I know she is probably going to die soon, but I want her to die in familiar surroundings where she is loved, rather than having to make a trip to the vet which is always terrifying for cats. The vets here will not come out to see or euthanize a sick cat. This cat does not appear to be in any pain. She has no tumors, nor neurogical symptoms, but I know she will soon die from the anemia. I do not believe in extending the life of a cat who has a terminal illness, therefore I will not put her through transfusions or heroic measures. If I had a terminal illness I would not wish this for myself! What I'm asking is this I'm sure some of you have had anemic FelV cats and I want to know if dying from anemia is painful. If so I will have her put to sleep. Even though I know the trip to the vet will be frightening for her... I do not want her to suffer. Thank you for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My New Kitty
My positive is at least 10 years old. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com wrote: From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My New Kitty To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 3:05 AM She is a lover...sleeps by my husband's legs at nightthere are no children in the house.She has a playmate...he is 3 but is as mellow as can be Thanks for the encouragementbut there was no way I would return her to the pound or have her put to sleep... We named her Samara which means Companionand that is what she will be A failure is just a stopover on the way to SUCCESS. --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My New Kitty To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 11:08 PM You may have her a lot longer than you think. Dixie stayed with me 3 years and there are others who have had pos cats a lot longer than that. Keep her as stress free and as well fed as you can and she may reward you with many, many years.I pray so. Bless you for making the right decision for this little one. On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:31 AM, D.S.Louis wrote: Brought my new kitty home from the pound on Sat and found out this morning she is Feline pos. WE were given the choice to return her or have her put to sleep..orbring her home.. WE decided to bring her home...Although we may only have her for a short time...She will be loved and cared for with no regrets She is a beautiful Siamese..and about 2 yrs old...and gas all ready brought much joy to our lives... Cherokee A failure is just a stopover on the way to SUCCESS. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shelton Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry Sherry. tonya --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Shelton Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:33 PM I am sad to say that we lost our big beautiful black boy Shelton today.He always had a friendly purrsonality and he was asweet talker. :) RIP sweet boy. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
My DD is at least 10 she's been positive since i got her. test on elisa and the other one. --- On Thu, 7/16/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:30 PM GLOW for cleveland! and my friend KatieKalico is about 12 now, and still going strong--still positive, and the other cats in her house are still negative (they are ALL vaccinated, including Katie) i'm really starting to wonder how many positives--even true positives, not just those who test positive once on an ELISSA and are never retested--actually get sick? it might be a very small number, but no one's ever looked into it since FeLVs are easier to just kill. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
My stats to begin with. 11 cats 1 turned up positive and I kept her. She lived to 7 or 8. 1 positive is probably 10 by now and is fine and dandy. I'm down to 4 cats now. I've lost more cats to old age reanal disease. tonya --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:54 PM All I can do is give you my stats. 6 positives in the house; 3 died before they were 1; 2 thriving at age 2, 1 thriving at age 1. 2 positives in the dumpster colony I TNR'd; both still thriving at age 2. Sissy, one of my house 2 y/o, has always had swollen lymph glands. Rocket, her sister, does not have any symptoms. From what I have read here, it seems some kitties are just genetically better able to cope with the disease. Maybe they have stronger immune systems. Since all of mine come from the same dumpster colony I do not expect any of them to see 20. I am happy for each good day we have. I've lost cats to CRF, heart disease and a dog attack in addition to FeLV. I learned to treasure each day we have together. Worrying about the future doesn't help me or the cats. Hug your kitty for me Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Sander, Sue sue.san...@ssa.gov wrote: From: Sander, Sue sue.san...@ssa.gov Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:35 PM That is really what I would LOVE to know. Sammie is very healthy and I almost died when he tested positive. I'm trying everything I can to keep his immune system as healthy as I can. I don't know much about cats - he is my first and was a stray. I am now looking into BLUE SEAL FOOD with Belinda told me about and someone told me about AC-11. Thank you so much for writing. Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland GLOW for cleveland! and my friend KatieKalico is about 12 now, and still going strong--still positive, and the other cats in her house are still negative (they are ALL vaccinated, including Katie) i'm really starting to wonder how many positives--even true positives, not just those who test positive once on an ELISSA and are never retested--actually get sick? it might be a very small number, but no one's ever looked into it since FeLVs are easier to just kill. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin
I must have missed this one. Why can't you keep your positive?? tonya --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:32 PM I rescued an FeLV cat and after weeks and weeks of searching for a sanctuary I found two that can take him in. Home for Life and 'Not So' Purrrfect Angels in Fresno (CA) are the two places I found. The issue with Home for Life is that is too far from CA and I can't take him there personally. Therefore, I would like to speak to someone who personally know the place. I need to know if HFL is a good place for my FeLV kitty. Purrrfect Angels is only a 3 hour drive from L.A. but the FeLV room is very small. It can only house 6 cats. Right now they have two. With my cat it will be three. --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Cindy Jackson qne...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Cindy Jackson qne...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 8:22 PM Reyna, Are you surrendering a cat to Home for Life? --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 8:16 PM I assumed you knew about them from personal experience because you mentioned in an e-mail that you knew the place personally. Maybe is too much to ask but can I have the e-mail of the people you know that have taken cats to HFL? I want to speak to someone that personally knows Home for Life. --- On Thu, 7/16/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 7:59 PM if i knew them personally i would have said so. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Have I done enough to open the room where our beautiful little FELV+ kitty died?
are your other cats vaccinated? if so I would go ahead. --- On Tue, 7/21/09, margaret-sou...@comcast.net margaret-sou...@comcast.net wrote: From: margaret-sou...@comcast.net margaret-sou...@comcast.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Have I done enough to open the room where our beautiful little FELV+ kitty died? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:12 AM I hope we can get some advice. Last Monday we had to have our beautiful little foster kitty euthanized. We belong to a rescue group that pulls and fosters cats at the local county shelter who are in danger of being put down. We found out about a week after pulling little Maybelline that she was FELV+. Our vet did complete blood work on her. Her pvc was only 20 (normal being 30-45), but she was eating and loved attention. We were so hopeful and of course adopted her immediately. Within ten days or so Maybelline became listless and wouldn't eat. Our vet rushed over. Total count was down to 8% and immediately we rushed Maybelline to the local vet hospital for a blood transfusion. She did really well; predisone was also described. Again we were hopeful. Our vet planned to check her count every week. At week one it was 15%, not great, but if she could maintain it and EAT, she could continue on. In only 5 days we noticed same ominous symptoms again. Vet rechecked Maybelline's blood. Count was down to 10% and her gums were terribly pale. In good conscience our vet said we simply couldn't transfuse every two weeks, it just wasn't fair to our little girl. I heard this news when in Boston visitng my aging (95.5 yrs) mother. My husband had been prepared that Maybelline might die over the weekend before I returned. My husband tried everything he knew to get her to eat, but nothing really worked. She was just too weak. Thankfully, little Maybelline lasted through the weekend. Sunday we tried to spend as much time as possible with her. Monday our vet euthanized her. Both of us were crying. I'm still having bad spells as it just seemed so preventable and unnecessary if only Maybelline's first owners had vaccinated her! Anyhow, we kept her completely separate from our other five kitties. We've cleaned the room thoroughly (soap and water on floors and walls she might have touched) and removed her litter box. I always kept her food dishes separate. The perch cover and blankets and sheets she touched or slept on have been washed with bleach. Only a few furniture surfaces like the legs on the bed or desk haven't been washed. Should they be? While we would take another FELV+ kitty in a heartbeat (just hope we'd have them a little longer!), we definitely don't want to jeopardize our other little ones who are 100% healthy and have had vaccinations against FELV. Can we open the room at this point? Our other five kitties used to play in it, but we heard no complaints when Maybelline occupied it! We'd appreciate any advice anyone can give on this topic. I'm sorry our story is so long-winded; we just wished we could have done more for our poor little girl! Sincerely, Maggie Clark Souers I am so grateful ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PUREVAX FELV vaccine
No advice, but I'm so sorry. I would not get her another rabies shot. Keep us posted. tonya --- On Tue, 7/7/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PUREVAX FELV vaccine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 3:12 PM do they have same kind of vaccine for rabies, etc? my newest felv pos kitty (NitNoy) has had a reaction to rabies vac. dr. not sure if it is sarcoma or not. at present we are waiting a fe days to see if it grows or not. if it does, will have to remove soon before have to take whole leg. ANYONE HAVE ANY ADVICE ON THIS? dorlis she is about 1 - 1-1/2 yrs old, semi feral. she also has an attitude problem - charges everyone and gets downright nasty. she had her tail amputated by a raccoon (at least we think so from her reaction on seeing them). i found her tail in the yard a week later. my other problem is Annie and CAsey - they hate each other. Felway and Bach's don't seem to do any good. dorlis Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: I have not, but Purevax rabies vaccine is widely believed to be both the best vaccine and the least likely to cause VAS. It is also more expensive, and not all vet clinics carry it. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: I just heard about the PUREVAX FELV vaccine. This is administered with a transdermal technology that does not result in possible injection site sarcomas. Has anyone experience with this or heard anything especially with respect to the efficacy of it compared to the traditional one? Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Adopted an FIV+
Congratulations! I would probable do the lysine and maybe add some vitamin C. tonya --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Adopted an FIV+ To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:18 PM This message is from Sue (address below), for some reason it got cut so I am forwarding it. Not sure if this is Sue's list email so if you reply you may want to CC her on it [fs...@roadrunner.com] to make sure she gets your reply. Subject: Adopted an FIV+ From: Frank and Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:04:00 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Today I brought a new 15 year old cat home from the shelter. He is a very sweet flame point FIV positive. I know next to nothing about FIV except that it is not supposed to be as easy to transmit as feline leukemia.. Does anyone have any information or links for FIV? He seems very healty except for goopy eyes. He is going to get Wellness food with lysine mixed into it. Thanks for any advise! Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV
I've brought in 2 positives over the years. no problems. tonya --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Elizabeth Paz mothernatur...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Elizabeth Paz mothernatur...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:06 PM Dear Sandra, My Kitty (his name) has FELV, we got him when he was 7 months from students.. He was diagnosed with Felv when he was not quite two, he is now 8 1/2 and the felv has been kept at bay with the Prednisone. I also worried about my other cat Simba being exposed to him, because they would played and sleep together and this was long before we knew Kitty had the Felv. It has been 6 1/2 years now and Simba has been tested and no sign of Felv. Both have always been indoor cats. Liz Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:37:43 -0400 From: gopila...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV Hi there, I'm new to this... looking for some advice. I took in a stray, she's about 7 months old. She tested positive for FeLV. I didn't know she had FeLV. I took her in as she was hanging out on the patio of a restaurant, near a busy street. The owners of the restaurant were going to take her to the humane society. I already have a cat, who is not FeLV positive. The stray is with me while I try to re-home her, and my cat is with a friend. In an ideal world, I would like to keep the stray (Penny) and have her and my cat. Is this possible? Should I have Penny re-tested with a DNA test to make sure she does have FeLV? My cat (Stella) is an indoor cat, 7 years old. and has had all of her shots every year except for the last year. Is there any way they can live together with Penny being FeLV positive? any insight or links to relevant websites/postings would be greatly appreciated! thank you. s. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
I'm so sorry for your loss. :( tonya --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:09 PM His name is Maverick. He woke up this morning with a yellow color and has let us know he's had enough. We just returned from the vet and he had a peaceful passing. Amy --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:45 AM Poor guy. What is his name? Please keep us posted. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing Yeah, the vet does know about it. He threw it up and she said that means it was recently ingested. She said we can look at his belly today if we want but she said she felt while we were there and his belly felt fine. I read, and so did she, that one of the main reasons cats eat litter is because of anemia and we already know that's going on. I've lost the majority of my leuk positives over the years the same way. Either anemisa or tumors. We do full blood workups every 6 months to try to keep an eye on anemia but I've never been able to bring one back yet once the hematocrit starts dropping quickly. I expected him to live longer because I've lost most of my guys with hematocrits between 7-13 and his is 23. This guy is fading, though, and I think he's probably had enough. I'm just trying to decide if I want to do bloodwork and radiographs or if I want to just let him go peacefully without disturbing him any further. I have no doubt that the leukemia has just taken it's toll on him :( He also has Bartonella and despite numerous treatments, has not been able to shake it. We couldn't figure it out because any other cats I've treated have responded quite well. This guy's numbers actually got worse after treatment so I'm thinking his body just doesn't have the means to cope with fighting it off. Amy I would be real concerned with clumping litter if he ate any, you know what it does when it gets wet. Does the vet know about that? I have heard that cats shouldn't get tums, will see if I can find the palce I read it. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
Kelley, I'm so sorry to hear this. I just hate people like that. I try not to, but I do. tonya --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:40 AM First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors? I don't know if yall remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was pos/pos for FELV and FIV. I try so hard to be charitable with people, and am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died. They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill. Now they have new kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone - now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh. We have it in our code of ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but sometimes it is just hard. Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to help him, I would have done so if I had known. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Adam Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry Sherry. tonya --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Adam Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 8:53 PM I am heavy hearted as we lost Adam yesterday.I will miss this handsome boy.he used to jump on my back while I was bent over scooping and my shirt would slide up,then he would put his cold feet on my bare back. :) He was an awesome sweet baby.I will miss you my Adam. We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
I'm so sorry. :( tonya --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:32 PM Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their best for her through the weekend. Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it was. She was much loved. Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats.
1/4 baby aspirin every 3 days --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:41 AM Two different vets told me one whole baby aspirin (enteric coated) every 48 hours, for full grown cats, was the proper does. Lorrie On 05-29, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Jody, Did the vet say a whole baby aspirin? On the internet I'm seeing that the recommended dose is 1/4 of a baby aspirin every 3 or 4 days, since cats' livers don't process aspirin very well. It's not common but not unheard of for a vet to prescribe aspirin, but usually a mini-dose as described. Is there an emergency vet where you live that you can call to check whether the dose you gave Darcy is okay? I'm not trying to scare you (I know, probably too late for that) but if another vet thinks the dose your vet said is okay, then it probably is, but if it isn't you'll want to know that asap, right? I would assume you have checked the incision site for inflammation? Here are big vibes that Darcy feels better very soon without further intervention. Hugs to you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jody Butler Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thoughts Prayers Needed for Darcy Our sweet baby, Darcy, ten months old and FeLV+ was neutered on Tuesday.? We brought her home Wednesday and she seemed okay, considering she'd just had surgery. ? Yesterday she was in more pain, but we just figured the pain shot they'd given that was supposed to be good for two days was wearing off. ? Today is even worse.? I called the vet this AM.? She suggested giving a baby aspirin, which I did before going to work. ? Tonight, she barely lifts her head and is mewing so pitifully.? She ate some earlier in the day but won't eat tonight.? I called the vet again, and she had me give 1/8 of an antibiotic and we'll bring her in tomorrow morning first thing.? We've had other FeLV kitties neutered with no troubles, but I'm getting scared tonight. ? I just needed to share this tonight.? Any encouraging words or suggestions are greatly appreciated! ? Jody ( Darcy) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] sad news
I'm sorry Jaci. :( tonya --- On Mon, 6/8/09, jastiff...@aol.com jastiff...@aol.com wrote: From: jastiff...@aol.com jastiff...@aol.com Subject: [Felvtalk] sad news To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 11:10 AM Hello everyone, I'm sad to say that I lost my BB todayhe was a brave boy who went as far as he could in this life.? I got to be there and hold him one last time as he went to sleep.? Thanks to everyone for their kindnessthere will always be a place in my heart, and a piece missing from my life for my sweet BB.? Thanks also for this forum and the information that you are trying to spread about this horrible disease.? Jaci -Original Message- From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 9:16 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats. 1/4 baby aspirin every 3 days --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:41 AM Two different vets told me one whole baby aspirin (enteric coated) every 48 hours, for full grown cats, was the proper does. Lorrie On 05-29, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Jody, Did the vet say a whole baby aspirin?? On the internet I'm seeing that the recommended dose is 1/4 of a baby aspirin every 3 or 4 days, since cats' livers don't process aspirin very well.? It's not common but not unheard of for a vet to prescribe aspirin, but usually a mini-dose as described.? Is there an emergency vet where you live that you can call to check whether the dose you gave Darcy is okay?? I'm not trying to scare you (I know, probably too late for that) but if another vet thinks the dose your vet said is okay, then it probably is, but if it isn't you'll want to know that asap, right? I would assume you have checked the incision site for inflammation?? Here are big vibes that Darcy feels better very soon without further intervention.? Hugs to you. Diane R. ? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jody Butler Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thoughts Prayers Needed for Darcy Our sweet baby, Darcy, ten months old and FeLV+ was neutered on Tuesday.? We brought her home Wednesday and she seemed okay, considering she'd just had surgery. ? Yesterday she was in more pain, but we just figured the pain shot they'd given that was supposed to be good for two days was wearing off. ? Today is even worse.? I called the vet this AM.? She suggested giving a baby aspirin, which I did before going to work. ? Tonight, she barely lifts her head and is mewing so pitifully.? She a te some earlier in the day but won't eat tonight.? I called the vet again, and she had me give 1/8 of an antibiotic and we'll bring her in tomorrow morning first thing.? We've had other FeLV kitties neutered with no troubles, but I'm getting scared tonight. ? I just needed to share this tonight.? Any encouraging words or suggestions are greatly appreciated! ? Jody ( Darcy) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Laura is gone
My condolencs on Laura. I'm so sorry. :( tonya --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Laura is gone To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 9:50 AM I'm so sorry, human Laura - may she find many guides at the bridge to help show her the way - Gloria On May 22, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Laura B wrote: One week ago today I had to let Laura go, she was losing the fight. She had been acting off for about a month, we took her to see my vet and her labs were awful. We tried a course of Pred, and did get a small rally, but at the beginning of last week she started fading again, we could tell it was time. I miss her immensely, she was the sweetest girl, she would have been three on June 2. I really hate this disease, it robs our young kitties of life, and there is no hope. Hug your kitties, Human Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dixie
I'm so sorry for your loss. tonya --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:48 PM I lost my wonderful Dixie Louise Doodle Katt after 3 years. She came out of a pine thicket (country equivalent of street). She was full grown and, until a few days before she left, I thought she had beaten it. There were short/little problems but nothing that couldn't happen with the healthiest cat who had lived on her own for a while/forever. I gave her my heart and I would not trade one second of time with her for anything. Not even those awful last few minutes as she left this world beside me as I was driving her home from the vets'. You know that you are not alone in your pain. I doubt that is overly helpful at this minute but everyone who has been there knows how awful it is. And you have been there so often and given so very much to these wonderful little ones. Please let your heart heal and expand to include more of them. Street/pine thicket cats/kittens have such a hard time and, if they have any health problems they have little chance unless someone can put the pain on hold and love and care for them during the time they have. May all the angels surround you. On May 12, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Amy Dalgliesh wrote: My Zman lost his fight today. He is my 6th in the past 9 months. I know that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't help with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures. . Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him. He quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and holding paws through the carrier door at night. Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, curling up at my neck during the night. He loved to suckle earlobes and would launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person who happened by in order to attach himself to one. I told him that he would have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult catapulting himself onto everyone. Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 months old and less than 4 pounds at the end. We were holding paws when he left. It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said many more times, but I hate this freaking disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
I'm so sorry Amy. tonya --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Amy Dalgliesh ajdalgli...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amy Dalgliesh ajdalgli...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 5:58 PM My Zman lost his fight today. He is my 6th in the past 9 months. I know that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't help with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures. . Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him. He quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and holding paws through the carrier door at night. Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, curling up at my neck during the night. He loved to suckle earlobes and would launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person who happened by in order to attach himself to one. I told him that he would have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult catapulting himself onto everyone. Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 months old and less than 4 pounds at the end. We were holding paws when he left. It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said many more times, but I hate this freaking disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] charlotte
I am so sorry to read of your loss. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS
I'm so sorry Sharyl. tonya --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 7:51 PM My dear sweet little girl Houdini died today. She was just 10 months old.. Test positive twice but never had any symptoms. For the last couple of days she meowed when I picked her up. This little girl loved to be held and petted. Since I have 8 house cats, I thought perhaps a bite or sprain but could find any evidence of an injury. Yesterday she started breathing kind of heavy so today we headed to the vet, a 45 minute drive.. She stopped meowing a couple of miles away from the vet's office. I thought she had finally gotten used to the ride. Didn't know she was dead until I got into the vets office. I'm still in shock. Bright Eyes had failed over several weeks. I just didn't think I wouldn't be coming home with her. She loved to sit on the desk beside the computer while I was on line. When I sat down on the sofa she immediately got in my lap. She just loved to be loved. I will sorely miss her. I am just grateful I was able to have her love for as long as I did. I rescued her and her litter mates from a dumpster site when she was 4 weeks old. She earned her name because she was the only one of the 4 that could escape from the crate I had them in. Please add her to the next CLS. Sharyl Sissy Rocket CJ Mattie and all my Angels ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :(
I'm sorry Sherry. tonya --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 8:47 PM I know I have asked for prayers for this wonderful soul lately.Well today he lost his battle to this aweful disease.Pooty Poots was one of my special boyfriends.I know I have many and will have many more,but sometimes certain ones steal an extra space in your heart.This was one of them.Pluto was a shy handsome tiger boy.I won him over with Temptations treats and love.And he won me over with the trust he had in me.Rest in peace baby boy,you are now with your mom Juno and brother Jupiter. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey
Kerry, My internet has been down. I'm so sorry to read about Petey. tonya --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com wrote: From: Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:44 PM You're so right. Thanks Lorrie. From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey I'm so sorry about Petey. These losses are so hard on us, and it never gets any easier no matter how many times we go thru it. Lorrie On 04-16, Kerry MacKenzie wrote: I just got the very sad news that Petey was put to sleep this morning. I want to thank everyone for their feedback and support yesterday. Petey's mom is also the new mom of my former foster FeLV Daisy. I'll be (gently) encouraging her to join the list. I didn't know Petey was even ill until yesterday, and I think she and Petey would have benefited enormously from being part of this wonderful group. Good wishes as always to all of you and your furbabes. Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] questions about how to handle an felv+/non-symptomatic cat
He could fight the virus, or could just be a carrier. If your other cats have been vaccinated I would not worry about it at all. t --- On Tue, 4/14/09, souther...@aol.com souther...@aol.com wrote: From: souther...@aol.com souther...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] questions about how to handle an felv+/non-symptomatic cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:38 PM can you guys tell me that there is a chance finley could still fight this virus? I can tell you that my guy came in as a stray 2 years ago weighing 10 lbs and being tested as positive.? he's in the house, he weighs 15.5 lbs and he's doing great.? He gets some runny eyes and sneezes but once I started lysine full time that has stopped.? I'm sure he'll be positive forever but that doesn't mean he won't have a good and I hope long life.? I'm new at the whole cat thing so this is a new experience for me.? But I just knew I couldn't have him put to sleep. Sidney and the General ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!
I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Most people on our list keep their positives and negatives together. If your two negatives haven't tested positive after all this time, they are probably not going to. I don't do boosters on my negative cats. I lost 2 negative cats in March due to different causes. My positive cat is one of my healthiest at at least 10 years old... tonya --- On Wed, 4/1/09, James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net wrote: From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice! To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 1:41 PM From: avia.rausc...@gmail.com Subject: New to the list, would like some advice! - Hello! I'll try to make the history brief but clear (not always easy for me), we adopted a kitten from ACC here in NYC in July 2007 to keep our cranky, one and a half year old, only cat Onyx company. The kitten (Cinder) was 9 weeks old and tested negative at adoption for FeLV. We added a third cat (Horus) from a rescue group that October (tested negative after adoption, the rescue group said he was negative, but there was no record of testing with his paperwork), and this past October added a tamed feral (Blackie) to the mix (kept separate from the other three until she was medically cleared and tested negative). On January 12, 2009 our darling little Cinder was diagnosed with lymphoma after an extremely sudden decline (fine on Friday, heavy breathing, not eating/drinking, hiding under the bed Sunday night) at one year and eight months of age. I took her to the vet first thing Monday morning, and after xrays and an ultrasound found her chest so full of fluid she couldn't breathe and a massive tumor in her liver, we made the decision to let her go rather than tormenting her with treatment to make ourselves feel better. The postmortem tests revealed that Cinder had FeLV. We were in shock and couldn't believe how quickly she got sick! Onyx is a three year old persian, Horus is a five year old mix (Siberian/Maine Coon?) and Blackie is a dsh. Onyx and Blackie have been the picture of health, Horus was diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago and is on Flovent twice a day. After waiting the recommended two months, I had the other three tested this past Thursday. Horus and Blackie are negative, but Onyx came up positive. Yesterday, I had Horus Blackie vaccinated, and the IFA test results for Onyx will be back in about a week. For now I have some questions that maybe some of you can answer: 1. My vet said no booster was necessary for the vaccinated cats, yet I see many references here to 30 day boosters - should I ask again or insist on the boosters? 2. The vet said to separate my kitties, but I can't stand the idea of locking Onyx up. From what I read, most of you seem to mix your positive and negative-vaccinated kitties, so am I being awful by not separating them? They say low stress environment, but Onyx likes to roam the apartment and it seems like it would be very stressful for her to be confined. 3. I feed my kitties Weruva canned and California Natural dry. I was thinking about supplementing with a vitamin like Nupro. Any suggestions in that department? Onyx is very picky, and it has been difficult to find foods that she will eat that don't upset her tummy. I guess that's it for now, any advice anyone can give will be most appreciated!! Avia === James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (MySpace) http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
Thank you Gloria. t --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:09 AM Tonya, I'm so sorry about Shaft - what a wonderful boy to have a loving mom like you to help him. Sleep soft, Shaft - Gloria On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:45 AM, catatonya wrote: Hello Everyone, I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a shame it is that people put down cats for being positive. I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
Thank you, Wendy. tonya --- On Mon, 3/9/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:12 PM Hi Tonya, I'm sorry to hear about Shaft, and your other sick kitty. Shaft lived a long time!!! He was a lucky kitty to have had you! :) Prayers going out for your comfort, Take care, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:45:15 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft Hello Everyone, I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a shame it is that people put down cats for being positive. I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
Hello Everyone, I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a shame it is that people put down cats for being positive. I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
Thanks Sharyl. t --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 2:02 PM Tonya, wishing Shaft a safe journey to the Rainbow Bridge. He is now pain free. All our Angels are there to greet him. I have a CRF kitty too.. Know how challenging that can be. Like you my positive kitties are my healthiest. Sharyl --- On Sun, 3/8/09, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 11:45 AM Hello Everyone, I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a shame it is that people put down cats for being positive. I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
thanks, sue. tonya --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Frank and Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: From: Frank and Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 7:39 PM Tonya, I'm sorry to hear about Shaft. It sounds like he was a lucky kitty that you had 15 years together, you must miss him so much. Gentle bridge vibes to him and comfort to you. Sue - Original Message - From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft Hello Everyone, I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a shame it is that people put down cats for being positive. I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
Thank you Sherry. tonya --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:35 PM Tonya I am so sorry you lost your sweet Shaft.He was lucky to have you for all those years. Hugs to you. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way --- On Sun, 3/8/09, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 11:45 AM Hello Everyone, I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a shame it is that people put down cats for being positive. I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :( tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry Sherry! tonya --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 5:38 PM Well we lost our Jazzman today,I knew last night that it would be the last time I saw him so I told him that I loved him at least 100 times.Just so he heard it at least one last time before he passed.I was hoping the prayers would have helped.They have helped Oscar so far,he seems to be feeling much better.Also could you keep our Flanagan in your prayers too he is not feeling well.It has been a sad couple of weeks in our rescues.We lost a Crash cat too this week. :( Thanks Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry, Sherry. t --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 8:34 PM We lost another one of our special Sids kids yesterday.Valentino was a BIG sweet loverboy who ALWAYS had a purr for us (and happy farts).He ended up blind about a month ago and was doing pretty good,but the virus took over and he just could not take anymore. May he enjoy all the kitty treats he can now. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Survey
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? CC was positive as a kitten. she was found in a parking lot, so I have no idea. DD was positive when I got her at about 2 years of age. WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ CC got very sick at about 8 months and almost died. We used interferon, immunoregulin, she eye herpes and medicines for that and saw a homeopath.DD has never been sick but once and was put on antibiotics. I give her no special treatments. WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, all indoors ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? Yes, up to 10 at a time. there has been no contamination of my negatives. CC lived until about 8 years old, and died of herpes. CC is still fine at around 10 years old.t__ _ How fun is this? IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about prednisone
I think no news means good news on this list. lol. I have a question. I have a cat that is negative, but hyperthyroid, and other health problems. The doctor put him on prednisone and everyone on my hyper thyroid list said NOT to use prednisone but to use prednisolone instead. Any thoughts? tonya --- On Thu, 2/5/09, nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote: From: nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 11:05 AM Taz and I are still here. I look forward to this talk. I'm glad there is so much good input and caring from people for the positives. I wish more would be educated. Nancy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about prednisone
thank you! --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about prednisone To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:31 PM Tonya, your hyper t list is right. Prednisolone is preferred for cats. Here is a link for with info. http://www.marvistavet.com/html/prednisone.html Prednisone is activated by the patient's liver into Prednisolone Since cats have to convert the prednisone into prednisolone you are better off starting out with prednisolone. Sharyl --- On Thu, 2/5/09, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about prednisone To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 6:44 PM I think no news means good news on this list. lol. I have a question. I have a cat that is negative, but hyperthyroid, and other health problems. The doctor put him on prednisone and everyone on my hyper thyroid list said NOT to use prednisone but to use prednisolone instead. Any thoughts? tonya --- On Thu, 2/5/09, nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote: From: nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 11:05 AM Taz and I are still here. I look forward to this talk. I'm glad there is so much good input and caring from people for the positives. I wish more would be educated. Nancy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge
I'm so sorry to hear of the loss of your mother. She sounds like a wonderful woman. take care of yourself. tonya tatorb...@aol.com wrote: Hello everyone, I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me feel little better. To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to prior emails. Another email was sent to all the rescues groups of the same wording. Many of you have ask about my mother and sent many prayers by emails, phone calls, also in person to my mother and myself. With great sadness in my heart today my mother passed away this morning. As she wished she wants to be cremated and be buried with my father. I spent many hours with her the last few days only home long enough to feed and do litter boxes. She was an avid animal lover especially when it came to cats and kittens. She was a reputable breeder from the 60's to early 80's. Her breed was Siamese and Persian cats. In the last 20 years she chose to take homeless and rescue kitties into her home. They were given very much needed love and care. When she would come to visit me as she was in a convalescent home during the last year she would get her kitty fixes by coming to my home. She would call all of the rescue cats and kittens to her along with my personal kitties. So she could be around them all and give them plenty of love. She took such pleasure in this. She would spoil them greatly. Even feeding them such as turkey, chicken, and beef when she could get away with it. Her services will be at a later date. I will let you all know. My brother is putting article in the local newspaper about her within the next day or two. Thanks again for all your support in the past and present regarding my mother! Please vote! _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu :-)
Congratulations on your new family member! tonya Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com wrote: After our Denzel died, I wasn't sure that I wanted to stay subscribed to the list since he was our only positive. I decided to stay on because I felt like another positive would come into our lives. Well, I'm a spiritual person, and it really seemed like at least a nudge from God when Kelley was writing about Tofu in Austin which, by Texas standards, is pretty close to where I live. Anyway, last Thursday this beautiful little girl came home with me :-) We're still in the adjustment period, but so far she and the other kitties are cautiously getting to know each other. (One of our others is about the same age as Tofu and they've had some fun chasing each other.) We should be having a wellness visit with the vet soon, to decide what kind of preventive treatment to start her on; unlike Denzel, who was pretty symptomatic his whole life, she doesn't seem sick at all. So a question for those who have dealt with a combo positive - is there anything special I need to be looking out for with the added FIV? From Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anemia AZT
Do you think AZT could be used for cats with the herpes virus? tonya jb...@tds.net wrote: Graca, Hello. I responded to your email earlier but had some problems with my email and am not sure if you received it. This is basically what I said. If you get two emails for this sorry. AZT is an antiviral used in human medicine to treat HIV. It is generally used in combination with other antivirals. Unfortunately, these combinations of antivirals have not been found to be effective against felv in cats. At least there are no good studies to support that. AZT is often not used or stopped in people because it often causes anemia and bone marrow toxicity. This is a very widely known side effect of AZT. For this reason, I would listen to the vet that suggests stopping the AZT. Since anemia can be a common symptom of felv and your cat is experiencing it. It is either because of progression of the felv disease or a side effect of the drugs. If it is the drug, stop giving it and the anemia should improve (this can be monitored by looking at the blood for reticulocytes - which are like baby red blood cells and indicate that the bone marrow is trying to fix the anemia - this is a good sign). If it is the felv disease progressing than the AZT is not really helping you anyway and there isn't much reason to continue giving it. If you want to continue to treat the felv virus, there is a lot of buzz about something called Imulan. It is the first FDA approved drug for the treatment of felv/fiv in the United States. You may want to ask your vet about this possibility. It may be beneficial to stop your current meds and try this. I don't know. It would be trial and error. Keep in mind that anemia and bone marrow suppression in a felv positive cat is a poor prognostic sign. In general, if it were me, I would stop the AZT and watch for improvement of the anemia. I may add Imulan (I have no experience with this drug yet), would consider a blood transfusion, from an immunized cat, if the anemia is significant enough and transfer factor if there is GI upset. Hope this helps. Jenny Graca Azevedo wrote: Dear All, I was so upset with my sick cat that I did not introduce myself as new to list a few days ago. I do apologize. I am writing from Brazil, have two rescued cats. One of them is Felv+. He has been treated on AZT and interferon for 2 years and half. The virus reached his bone marrow and he has anemia. Two vets have examined him. One said that I should stop with the AZT and the other advised to continue. I failed to find on the mail archives any report on cats being treated with AZT. I would be most grateful to hear what any of you have to say. Regards, Graça Azevedo Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New to List
Susan, I didn't want to answer because your case sounds problematic. Once you get to transfusions you are in deep water. I hope someone with more experience chimes in. tonya jb...@tds.net wrote: Hey Susan, It is a tough choice. In my experience when felv positive cats start with bone marrow suppression (low RBC,WBC and platelet counts) things progress downhill fairly rapidly. Not always, but often. This is only from my experience. I have given the transfusions, and they are life saving - for awhile. The first transfusion is kind of a free bee in that there generally isn't a tranfusion reaction (potentially deadly reaction with transfusions). Subsequent tranfusions are more risky. It boosts the numbers transiently, but inevitably you end up low again. I have read that if you have the option and decide to transfuse, use the blood of a cat that has been vaccinated for felv as it can transfer some immune response to the virus in the recipient cat. This may temporaily help. I am still looking for a good antiviral against felv, but as of yet they are only stories. Some people suggest interferon, some imulan, some Carrisyn (Acemannan). I haven't heard overwhelming support of any one of them in particular, personally. So in the end, you are treating the symptoms not the disease. You will certainly help the situation now with a transfusion, but you will find yourself facing this situation again. I do not mean to be negative I just want to tell you what I have experienced. I am still investigating the virus and will let you know if I hear of even a whisper of success on treatment. Alternatively, there are some holistic drugs that are thought to help boost the immune system and reverse anemia. If you are interested I can send some more specific information. I personally have not found them exceptionally effective. Good luck Jenny Susan Tillman wrote: Hello Folks, I was on the list for a while several years ago when my kitty Shane was first diagnosed as FeLV positive and then I dropped off due to time constraints (and because he was doing so well). For the past four years I have been treating him for ocular herpes, and then this past summer he was diagnosed with the additional eye disease, eosinophilic keratitis. He has been under the care of an eye specialist and those conditions are currently completely controlled by medications. He also has issues with his teeth and gums (he had a dental two years ago but things are pretty inflamed again). I have been monitoring his lab work every six months and everything had been looking pretty good for the most part. His neutrophil count was a little low about a year ago and when we checked it again last summer, it had actually rebounded a bit. There was no anemia at that time. However, I took him in for his routine lab work last week and he is now very anemic and his neutrophils have dropped well into the danger zone. My vet feels that he will soon reach a point where he will require a transfusion in order to live. He looks very good--his weight is excellent, he is eating (though he is a little pickier than usual), and he still does mad dashes around the house. I am very torn about the transfusion issue. This guy really stresses out over vet visits and procedures. If we were transfusing in order to buy enough time for some super cure to kick in, I wouldn't hesitate, but under the circumstances, I just don't know. I'm sure many of you have been in the position of having to make such a decision and I guess I'd just like to hear from some folks who have done transfusions (or decided against them). My vet says the effects of the transfusion would most likely last about a month. By the way, he was tested for hemobartonella several years ago (negative). My vet is retesting for it via PCR, but thinks it is highly unlikely and that the anemia is simply a progression of the FeLV. I look forward to hearing your experiences. Sue T. Shane - Manx mix, approximately 5-7 years old, diagnosed as FeLV+ 12-06 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Bright Eyes to the CLS
Sharyl, I'm sorry for your loss. take care, tonya Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: My sweet little Bright Eyes died this afternoon. He was just 7 months old and had been healthy until a few weeks ago. Nothing I did seem to help. He just faded away. He was one of a litter of four FeLV+ babies I rescued last July. He was the big boy. Always 1st to the food and 1st for loving. If someone else was in my lap he would climb on top of them for his loving. I've spent these last few days just holding and loving him. The other three seem perfectly healthy. No idea why this disease took him and hasn't affected the others yet. All four were on the same diet ad supplements. He is now happy and healthy playing in those green meadows with all the other angels. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS
Sally, I'm so sorry, but at least Baby Girl didn't die on the street from starvation or pneumonia. take care, tonya Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: Please add sweet Baby Girl to the CLS if possible she was not positive but had 7 good years as a Feral cat next to where I work. Here is what happened: Yesterday I noticed the cat at work (a TNR feral) named Baby Girl was not feeling good. She has had a URI on and off, but never seemed affected by her. This time she was not eating and even allowed me to touch her. Normally she would have swatted me. We discussed taking her to the ER but we did not have a way to catch her or anything to put her in and it was closing. Today before I even got to work Pat, who is really Baby Girls momma with the help of another girl caught her. She had not eaten any food left for her yesterday. So Angel first went to a vet that is one street over from us. They could not see her gave names of other vets. I already decided to call my vet who is also close. She could not be seen until 3:30 first . She was in distress and I had noticed she was cold to the touch although she was kept by a heater all day. I drive her to Junior's vet. Since she is feral I also notified the guy, Phil who looks after her colony. She is only one of 3 or 4 cats that hang out next to us. He said they would probably test her for FELV in fact he wanted her tested. They vet had a hard time getting blood she was so wek she did not fight. Her temp was 94. The vet though she would test positive but she was negative for FELV and FIV. She had pnuemonia and was now coughing blood and she was shutting down. The vet was sure she was dying and euthanized her. Of course it was a heart stick and I decided I did not need to watch. It was over before I even was out of the room. The test came back after she was pts. I called Phil to let him know. He will adopt out any who are adoptable and has kept many cats himself. Anyway I will miss Baby Girl. She was just getting freindly after 6 years and would rub up against all that she used to run away from. The vet was so kind she is going to bury her in her yard . She is now an Angel. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan message-mailto:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d750ff92...@mail.gmail.com
have you ruled out hemobart? maybe you should have the kitten on doxy. but I know doxy isn't recommended for kittens under a certain age tonya nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote: Hi Lisa, I'm currently using Imulan on my FeLV kitten. She was very very sick before it came in. She was anemic and her blood caounts were low. Since the Imulan she is back to her old goofy self. She's not anemic but her blood counts still continue to fall. That bothers me. The vets aren't quite sure why. She is eating well and playful and no sign of illness, no temperature, but I'm giving her an antibiotic to try and help fight whatever is destroying here blood counts. I would recommend the Imulan and I will continue the treatments as long as she is benefitting. So far the manufacturer doesn't have any info with regard to old or very young cats but they say that 2 of the test cats have been tested negative via bone marrow tests after this treatment. I'm hoping my little girl cat, Taz, will start producing the right blood cells she needs. Her is are a couple of websites that may help. http://www.imulan.com/felv-fiv-treatment.html http://fabulousfelinesandfidos.yuku.com/reply/39095/t/-Treatment--Feline-Leukemia--Feline-Aids-FeLV--FIV-.html hope this helps, Nancy and Taz ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Tommy
That's great news Lisa! I'm dealing with 3 cats that are very ill, and they are all my negatives. (Knock on wood.) My positive is fat and sassy and doing fine. She's especially enjoying all the treats I've been using trying to get my 3 sick ones to eat and take med.s. lol. tonya Lisa Borden tuckerandtes...@zoominternet.net wrote: My FeLV+ kitten, Tommy, continues to do wonderfully! He is active and playful, and has a tremendous appetite. He will be neutered on January 29th - his holistic vet said to continue to give him the DMG to help his immune system with the stress of surgery. She also gave him a probiotic to help his bowels when he is on an antibiotic. This is so much different from what I thought it would be like to have an FeLV kitten! I understand we are very lucky, and for that I am grateful. His holistic vet says that after the surgery, once he is stress free again, we can retest him for FeLV. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re Update on Tommy
No. They are retested everytime they get sick and are always negative. My cats are just old. One has crf, the other hyperthyroid, and the other herpes. They have all tested negative to rule that out. I've had many cats come and go (from things other than felv). I've never had one get felv from one of my positives. I guess I'm going on toward 15 years by now. tonya Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Hi Tonya, Do you think your negatives could have turned positive? I worry all the time about my 9 month old kitten who was negative when I brought him home, because he was exposed to his litter mates and 4 of them have already died from FelV. So far he is doing well, but I still worry. What is wrong with your three? Lorrie On 01-11, catatonya wrote: I'm dealing with 3 cats that are very ill, and they are all my negatives. (Knock on wood.) My positive is fat and sassy and doing fine. She's especially enjoying all the treats I've been using trying to get my 3 sick ones to eat and take med.s. lol. tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murdoch Please add him to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry Sherry. tonya Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I'm sure you all remember me asking for prayes for this sweet guy.He quickly went down hill and Dr. Jen had to let him go tonight.He was a rough looking orange fluffy guy with a crumpled ear.But the cutest little face to love. Also could you say a little prayer for Stryker? He is at the clinic and not doing so well.Thank you all for being here. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV kittens
Lorrie, I'm sorry for your losses. Kittens with felv have the least chances of making it. Once they get over a year or two their chances greatly improve. I'm so sorry. tonya Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: I wrote two weeks or so ago about a very sick FelV kitten who was anemic and had lost control of her back legs, and her bladder. We took her to the vet and he felt she was in the last stages of FelV, with little or no hope for recovery. She was 9 months old and only weighed 3 and a half pounds. Sadly she soon went to the rainbow bridge. Then yesterday we found another of her litter mates dead with absolutely no apparent sickness. This kitten was eating, playing and acted fine, but suddenly died. We've so far lost 4 kittens from this litter of FelV pos. kittens, and it's heart breaking. Has anyone else found kittens who look fine, eat well and play and then suddenly die? I don't think this is a symptom of FelV, and I'm wondering if this last kitten we found dead yesterday had a genetic heart problem or something else unrelated to FelV. Any ideas? Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] General didn't eat breakfast
Maybe try to tempt him with a treat of some sort? I don't know. You're in my thoughts. I remember when I got my first cat and didn't know anything about them. It takes a while. I hope someone has more advice for you. tonya souther...@aol.com wrote: Do I need to be worried? He seemed fine this morning, but he didn't eat. He's spent the day in the living room, but not curled on the heat vent like he has done in the past. When he's been feeling bad before he curls up on the heat vent. He's not been very social today but he isn't doing that. How do I tell if he's really in pain? Or sick? Remember I've never had a cat before. His vet thinks that he may have had a touch of pancreatitis over the last couple of weeks. Dogs I know. Cats are a mystery. Sidney and the General ** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp; icid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] felv pos, neg and 2 alpha females
They're expensive, but high cat trees make the vulnerable cats feel more safe. I've been there. Right now we're at an almost neutral mix ugh. tonya dlg...@windstream.net wrote: i have 1 pos (Annie who is an alpha type), Homey wo is felv neg, and 2 new girls Homey 2 and Casey who are both neg. big problem is that Casey is also an alpha so Annie is now experiencing some of the bullying that she has been visiting on Homey. Homey is now #3 in pecking order and poor Homey 2 is at the bottom of the order. she is so terrified that she runs when she hears any noise and spends most of her time hidden under the bed, behind the computer desk or in some unknown hiding place i haven't found yet. i am afraid that the additional stress will hurt Annie (pos) and leave both Homeys a basket case. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS? Annie is now on the run from Casey and only feels secure on my lap. Homey only feels safe on my lap. i spend a lot of time sitting and being a security blanket. little Homey 2 doesn't feel safe anywhere. also, Casey and Homey 2 came from 1 yr in shelter where apparently boxes were not cleaned too often and Casey has developed a bad habit of kicking all soiled litter out of box and then using the box. any ideas on this subject? dorlis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ot-cdiff
evidently this is a new bug that is very contagious. It is common in nursing homes and hospitals. :( tonya dlg...@windstream.net wrote: yes it is. story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall. went to hospital for x-ray. no broken bones, but contracted c. diff and died. article was in aarp bulletin for november 2008. if someone will tell me how to copy article and attach to email, will do. dorlis catatonya wrote: what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in August. Evidently it's highly contagious. tonya dlg...@windstream.net wrote: just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis Pat Kachur wrote: If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of germ killer before you come in the house. - Original Message - From: Lisa Borden To: Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we still have one?)
I'm sorry Gloria. :( tonya Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2, 2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list. He was a double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue. I've fostered him since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat. But he developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with that ever since. He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of days. He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had other things going on, I'm not sure. B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties
Welcome to the group. I'm sorry for your loss, but thank you for taking in positive cats. Unfortunately with this disease you just never know when or if they are ever going to get sick from the felv. I have a 10 year old positive here with me as I type right now. My first positive died around 8 years old. Others have lived lives into the high teens. The bad thing about it is that when it hits, it can hit fast, as you have discovered. I don't know about the new med.s. My cat is asymptomatic, so I don't give her any medicines, additives, etc just a good diet and a stress free (as possible) environment. My girl DD was left at my vet's office and my vet talked me into taking her because I already had a positive cat. Vet's call dropped off animals door dumps and I named her DD because my first positive cat was CC (because I found her living behind a coke machine). DD RULES my house. Your positive cat could have many years ahead of her. I hope you'll consider taking in another positive. :) thank you! tonya Amber Gilewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I am new to this listserv, but wanted to thank all of you in advance for your insights and kindness! I recently adopted 2 FeLV positive cats, Neo and Parker (1 in April and 1 in September). I knew their lives would be cut short by the illness, but wanted to give them a happy, comfortable life before they left this world. Some friends and family members have given us grief over purposely adopting these sick kitties. I've heard things to the effect of You'll be sad when they die to You're keeping a healthy cat from having a home. But I didn't (and still don't care) what the naysayers have to say. I know that I'm doing a good service to these cats that otherwise would be euthanized before they needed to be or would be without a loving home. Someone (who was in my corner) told me that she worked at a shelter once and no one would even play with the FeLV cats, let alone adopt them. This solidified my belief for the need of loving homes of these forgotten felines! Their happiness is more important than my sadness, as profound as it may be. I'm saddened to report that baby Parker (who we got more recently in September) died on November 8th. It was a sad death as he suddenly collapsed and died a couple of hours later in our home. It was late at night and the emergency vet closest to us was in surgery. Other vet services were an hour or more away. We saw him take his last few breaths and wanted to end his suffering sooner (but couldn't). But he died knowing (hopefully) that he was loved and that he didn't die alone. He was the sweetest cat ever! :( Our other cat, Neo is doing great! He's not showing any symptoms, has put on weight since we got him, and has a strong appetite! I recently read about LTIC/Imulan and told my vet about it. He didn't know too much about it as it's a newer medication, but I asked him to order some for Neo. It's quite expensive, but if I would have known about it sooner I would have tried it on little baby Parker to help him. Since Neo is quite healthy, I'm not sure what effect it will have on him, but I'd do anything to keep him as healthy as we can for as long as we can. I'd be most pleased if anyone tries this with their cat and could tell me how it works out. Also, did your cat have any symptoms before or were they asymptomatic before starting treatment? Thanks for reading and for all that you do for your beloved cats! Amber _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the Im a PC Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone
Sue, I'm so sorry to hear about Buzz. take care, tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I had to have my sweet little kitty Buzz PTS. I feel like a very large piece of me is missing. The first time I saw Buzz I fell in love with him. He was terrified, cowering between two up-ended mattresses in an unused bedroom at my brothers' house. He had been abused by neighborhood boys in an urban area where my brother used to live. When my sister in law, Lee, rescued him he was very sick, full of parasites, starving and near death. She and my brother nursed him back to physical health but he was still terrified of people. They named him Buzz Saw because of the way his claws flew whenever anyone got near him. That day Lee caught him in a blanket and handed him to me. I sat with him and gently pet him and talked to him. Within about 20 minutes he was purring. Before we left that day he reached up to me and touched noses. After about a week I talked my husband into keeping him. When I brought him home I put him into our study so he had a smaller space to get used to, and to keep him separate from the other cats. When I took him to the vet a few days later his feline leukemia test came back positive. Buzz was going to live in the study for quite a while so I filled it with cat toys and a cat tree and pretty much spoiled him as much as much as I could. Every evening I would spend hours with him. I was working on a computer project and he kept me company with that. That is how it was from January of '07 to April. At that point it was clear that keeping him separate was not working. We vaccinated the other cats for feline leukemia and released Buzzy into the rest of the house. He loved his new freedom and became every ones quiet little shadow. He loved to watch what was going on. His favorite place was a window bench that looks out on the bird feeder. At night he either slept on a ledge right behind my head or cuddled up next to me, purring. When July came I noticed that he seemed to have no energy and was not eating. When we took him to the vet the diagnosis was anemia. With heavy doses of prednesolone his health and red blood count began to come back. I was so happy watching my sweet boy gaining back his energy and appetite. While he was recuperating I would take him out to sit on the deck on my lap. He loved sniffing the outdoor smells and feeling the warm sunshine on his fur. He would sit and purr out there for as long as I could sit and hold him. In the evenings Buzzy loved to chase DaBird and the laser pointer. His blood was being tested every couple of weeks and soon it was in the normal range. We began to back off on the prednesolone. For several weeks everything was going well until the week that his blood count started going the wrong direction. I prayed that it was just the one time but unfortunately not. That horrible disease was in his bone marrow and the medication was no longer helping. For the last several weeks I watched as he became more and more lethargic. We offered him every special treat we could think of to keep him eating and he would nibble on those tidbits almost to the end. He would sit all day on his window seat and for the last week we carried him to the litter box. He always watched every move I made as I moved around the kitchen. Today when he just put his head down in exhaustion instead of watching, I knew it was time to say goodbye to my darling boy. When I took him to the vet I told him how much I have loved him and asked him to meet me at the bridge. Then he went to sleep in my arms. I will miss him so very much, but now he is in a place where there is no feline leukemia. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed
I know this is late, but I would get her to a vet to check for uti, kidney problems, etc if there's blood. amoxy could cause her appetite to go down, but I would bet it's the pain med. My cats that had extractions were only given pain med.s after surgery and were fine without it. My vet said that they probably hurt less after the surgery due to the pain their teeth and infection had been causing hope this helps. tonya Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vet dentist had never seen blood in the urine after coming to - and he's been doing this for 20+ years. He really specializes in just dental work so he asked another vet on call and they thought perhaps she might have a UTI or perhaps she has or had a stone which passed thus why there was a little blood. He said it wasn't a lot but it concerned him because he'd never seen it before. A lot or a little is concern for me. She was already going to be on Amoxy so he said to just keep an eye on her for the next couple days. She's also on buprenex for pain and she was on Medicam for inflammation (which after reading up on the Medicam I wish I hadn't give her the 2 doses I did) I wonder if the buprenex and/or amoxy are causing her to lose her appetite as well. She must be in some discomfort, I know I would be. I tried a/d yesterday and she only licked twice and was done. This morning, after trying 4 different flavors, someone suggested syringe feeding her. So I mixed some of the a/d with water and gave her some that way - she didn't even fight with me about doing it. I didn't give her a lot since I didn't really know how much would be too much/too little. A few hours later I pureed some Sheba mixed with water - she was watching me do it so I put a bowl with some of that down and she ate 1-2 tablespoons of that. I'm just happy she ate something. Now if I can just get her to drink some water but I figured if I keep mixing whatever food I give her with water, hopefully, that will be enough to keep her hydrated. Thank you for asking what KMR was, I didn't know either but think I might give that a try as well. A few people now have suggested the juice from tuna so I'll probably pick some of that up tomorrow and give that try too. It's just horrible when they don't want to eat. I go back to work tomorrow so she'll be on her own all day. I plan on leaving at least a few bowls of wet food for her and hopefully she'll have eaten something when I get home. Thanks for all your suggestions, I really appreciate it. Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
I'm way behind on email. I hope the diarrea is over? tonya Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Tonya ... he has no symptoms except for the diarrhea. I took him to a holistic vet yesterday who started him on some homeopathic antivirals and DMG. They are also eating a high protein food - 46% - I know there are higher ones out there but my adult cats are VERY picky and they all like this one that we have chosen. I really like the holistic vet. She told me to keep his vaccinations to a minimum so as to not stress his immune system, and don't vaccinate him for rabies. And to go ahead and have him neutered when he's 6 months old. He's such an adorable, loving, playful, happy kitten! And to think I could have sent him to the bridge unnecessarily. :( On Wed 19/11/08 5:23 AM , catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: He has already exposed your other cats. they are adults and vaccinated. there is like a 1% chance they are going to get the felv from this kitten. Wait about 3 months and retest your kitten and you may find he is negative after all. cats test positive when they have been recently exposed. once time has passed they sometimes retest negative. Keep the faith! Your little one may still fight this off. Do you see any symptoms besides the diarrhea (which lots of kittens have!) I also would start shopping around for a more educated vet. take care, tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
He has already exposed your other cats. they are adults and vaccinated. there is like a 1% chance they are going to get the felv from this kitten. Wait about 3 months and retest your kitten and you may find he is negative after all. cats test positive when they have been recently exposed. once time has passed they sometimes retest negative. Keep the faith! Your little one may still fight this off. Do you see any symptoms besides the diarrhea (which lots of kittens have!) I also would start shopping around for a more educated vet. take care, tonya Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
I am one who mixes, and I take NO precautions except that I keep my negatives vaccinated. tonya Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa, I don't think any of us can tell you what is the right thing to do. I rescued 2 dumpster kittens early this year. Both were kept in the garage until vetted. Both tested positive. Then I rescued a 3rd kitten from the colony. She tested negative. I kept Sissy and Rocket in the garage until I was able to give Stormie all her shots including the FeLV vaccine and booster. I got my other 2 indoor kitties current on their FeLV vaccine. Since it was getting hot here I moved Sissy and Rocket into my bathroom/bedroom. They are both asymptomatic. I eventually introduced them to my other 3 indoor kitties. So far no problems. I know others on this list have always mixed their kitties while some have never mixed them. Each of us has to make the decision on what is best for their kitties. By the way I now have 4 positive dumpster kittens in the garage that I rescued this fall. Mattie is blind, CJ only has sight in one eye and the other 2 seem fine. They were 4 weeks old when I found them. Just couldn't leave them there to die. I have added a 6' x 12' chicken wire enclosure to the garage. So far they are doing fine. 5 cats in the cottage is all I have room for. I'm still hoping to find a forever home for Bright Eyes and Houdini. Sharyl --- On Sat, 11/15/08, Lisa Borden wrote: From: Lisa Borden Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 8:47 AM My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
No, but I would start with running a humidifier. It could be (depending on where you live) simply due to the dry air caused by running the heater in this colder weather. Just an idea. tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 3 1/2 month old kitten with diarrhea
It could still be negative in a few months. Think positive! t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy's test was positive. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Lisa Borden Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:26:44 To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 3 1/2 month old kitten with diarrhea Thank you for all of your wonderful responses. I can feel the love and support already! It's so great to hear from other people who are/were in my situation. I just went to the store and bought some canned pumpkin as a couple of you suggested. When I came home, he saw me messing with the cans and started meowing for food. So I cracked open the pumpkin, gave him some mixed with a little canned EVO (which he loves) and he devoured the mixture. Now let's see if it helps his little tummy! He has a good appetite, but I don't think he's getting enough nutrition because the food goes right through him, you know? I ordered him some probiotics. I am also going to look for a holistic vet as someone else suggested. Sorry I can't reply to everyone but believe me, I have read all of your responses and appreciate them very much! I will let you know what his test results are, and will want to hear from you what I should tell him when we go back in, whether he is positive or not. At this point, I can NOT see euthanizing him. He's just a happy, playful kitten that happens to have an upset tummy! Yes we can! I like that!! :) Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 3 1/2 month old kitten with diarrhea
Good for you. I have mixed positives with negatives for years with no problem. I think my positive is my healthiest cat right now, in fact. I don't know about the diarrhea. Have you changed the food at all? t Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so happy to have found this list. Two weeks ago, I took in a 3 month old kitten. He's a beautiful orange kitten and I've fallen in love with him. Yesterday I took him to the vet for his vaccines, and we ran an FeLV/FIV snap test. It came back positive for FeLV. We sent off the other test (IFA?) to the lab and I await those results. I have two other cats - one is almost 4 (male) and one is 2 (female). They have both been vaccinated against FeLV. My male in particular has become close with the kitten. it proved to be impractical to isolate the kitten as he just cried and cried ... and escaped every time I opened the door. So I decided to supervise them, make sure they don't fight, keep a clean litterbox, etc. and I just let him back out with my other cats. From the couple of posts I have read, I see I am not the only one. And my vet was so adament about keeping the baby isolated. He does have diarrhea, and I was looking at probiotics. Can something like Fortiflora harm him if he does have a compromised immune system? I understand I would be giving him good bacteria to balance things out. He was negative for worms. Thank you for any info, and I look forward to the group, regardless of the test results. My kitten is active, and is a LOVE ... and he isn't going anywhere! Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....
Chris, I am so sorry for your loss. Romeo was lucky to show up at your doorstep. tonya Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. And the resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw away stray that I first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running across the field when Id whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldnt miss him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury everybodys food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving. I knew someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, hed scamper away, just out of reach, cowering. Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters weve had in a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him in. I even had an adoptive home readybut he turned out to be positive and they couldnt handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks, watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner werent that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he thought I was asleep. Little baby stepsfirst the food dish got moved next to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And slowly, hed come out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his facethis is niiice and from that point on, he was totally comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is that he never really wanted to get outhe rarely sat at the windowthe couch and the bed were always much more comfortable for him! Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat youd ever want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him in any way---he was just too scared. But hed jump up on me, lie on my chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take much of a liking to himall jealousy, Im sure. But Romeo persevered and the two of them had come to terms with each other... His final illness took him quickly. Hed never been real sick beforehad some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it. Going to the vet was a major trauma for him so Id always worked with my wonderful vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was one of those days that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. Hed been feeling poorly during the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hardlike he couldnt catch his breath. Hed been on antibiotics for what I thought was another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I made that decision we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him. And do I regret taking him inABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me so many wonderful memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he regret coming insideABSOLUTELY NOThe had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone. We cant save them foreverbut we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so very much about life from these little guys. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
I will! Thank you! Alice hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, there is a new injectable antibiotic out called Convenia. The vet gives one injection and it lasts for 14 DAYS!! My little Miss Clara got it the last time, and she back to her old self and antics the very next day. She's hard to give meds to too. You should see if your vet can try that.Alice Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:25:28 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip? Hey Gloria, We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for days... He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different vets) because he literally climbs the walls to escape! We have tried zithromax and zenoquin and one other. but he never got them every single day for the entire time period. :( Gloria Lane wrote: Hey Tonya, I might try some Azithromycin. It's become my latest discovery to try for the unknown. I've used it mostly in cats/kittens with problem eyes. I've read that some abx are said to affect Herpes, because of the relationship between the two amino acids lysine and arginine. The zithro is more expensive, so that might be a deterrent. IT's liquid, as are amoxi and clinidamycin, so you have to be able to squirt it in the mouth. Good luck, Gloria On Nov 2, 2008, at 7:49 PM, catatonya wrote: thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food. he's been exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at least a year now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't know... t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
Thanks, but Sneaker won't even come in to eat when I offer treats until I leave the area. There's no way I could make sure he got the treat with the pill in it. I can't get him to come to any type of food with any regularity. I put lysine into all the cats' wet food just trying to get some into him. I never know if he eats any of it or not, because I also keep dry food in the basement for them, and he won't come eat in front of me. :( tonya Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My secret pilling method is meat baby food (no onions or garlic). I crush pills, dissolve the a cc of water and mix in a little baby food. With liquids I just mix it in a little baby food. Then I offer the baby food on a spoon or syringe feed it. Most kitties love gently warmed meat baby food and think they are getting a treat. HTH Sharyl --- On Tue, 11/4/08, catatonya wrote: From: catatonya Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:25 AM Hey Gloria, We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for days... He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different vets) because he literally climbs the walls to escape! We have tried zithromax and zenoquin and one other. but he never got them every single day for the entire time period. :( ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] what's wrong with this picture?
Doesn't sound like he knows a lot about felv to me. t MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or, more accurately, with this article? written by a vet-school professor, how many factual errors can YOU find in the first, say, three paragraphs?? everytime i read this, i get angrier--i want to be able to write to the man, but instead i keep finding myself wanting to report him to the head of the vet school, the state licensing board, every rescue and animal-welfare in the contiguous states who might ever mistakenly bring a cat near him... perhaps i'm just over-reacting. so i'm asking you folks to read the article, and see if anything jumps out at you. http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20081021/HEALTH/810210348/1242/health -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
He's eating fine. The problem is he's 12 years old. Can cats 'harbor' fip like felv? tonya Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya, I lost one 12 week old to suspected wet FIP 2 years ago. She had a chronic URI and began having fevers that stopped responding to antibiotics. When her belly very first started to swell I noticed it, but the vet couldn't see it (or perhaps didn't want me to worry too much prematurely?) It quickly became obvious, (swayed, stuck out to the sides, hung way down, felt a bit like a water balloon) and was accompanied by anorexia and a very pronounced spine. From the first signs of swelling to the end was maybe 3 weeks or less? Hope sneakers is ok, if he's still eating good and no fevers then that's a good sign. Beth On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:49 PM, catatonya wrote: thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food. he's been exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at least a year now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't know... t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
That's why I'm thinking it's not fip. This has been going on over a year (the breathing difficulty). The weight gain only for a few months. I would think he would have to show some other symptoms and be sicker than the breathing problem if it's fip, but he does have a fat belly. thank you! t Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it isn't a matter of harboring FIP. FIP is a mutation of coronavirus, which many/most cats, especially those who have been through kill shelters, have been exposed to at one time or another. Most cats can carry coronavirus throughout their lives with no ill effects. There is no way to tell in which cats the virus will mutate. Cats who live in single cat households generally clear the virus over time, with multiple cat households. Wet food does not typically cause weight gain, if anything it would cause weight loss. There is a test which MC will probably remember the name of that can rule out FIP. Most vets do not know about it. If the cat does indeed have wet FIP, the prognosis is very poor and the time frame is short, but I do think a lot of vets use FIP as a diagnosis when they don't really know what is wrong. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
great site. I'm going to assume if he's not got sicker over the past few months it must just be weight gain. He is eating more because he likes the wet food better. thanks, t Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a link with a good explanation: http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html Beth :o) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
Hey Gloria, We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for days... He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different vets) because he literally climbs the walls to escape! We have tried zithromax and zenoquin and one other. but he never got them every single day for the entire time period. :( Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Tonya, I might try some Azithromycin. It's become my latest discovery to try for the unknown. I've used it mostly in cats/kittens with problem eyes. I've read that some abx are said to affect Herpes, because of the relationship between the two amino acids lysine and arginine. The zithro is more expensive, so that might be a deterrent. IT's liquid, as are amoxi and clinidamycin, so you have to be able to squirt it in the mouth. Good luck, Gloria On Nov 2, 2008, at 7:49 PM, catatonya wrote: thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food. he's been exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at least a year now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't know... t ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
His belly feels 'tight' to the touch. Can a cat keep an ongoing herpes infection that never worsens or improves much? Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A vet can usually tell if fluid in the stomach feels like the type of accumulation you find with FIP or not, if there is fluid, they will draw it to see if characterisitic of FIP (straw colored) but the fluid should still be tested. FIP is frequently misdiagnosed. And yes, many cats carry corona virus their whole lives without ever developing FIP which is caused by a mutation in the virus. Wet fip (where you have a fluid effusion in the belly or chest cavity) usually results in a very sick cat pretty quickly, so it's good if she's eating, feels well, energetic, etc. Would be good to have a vet check her belly to see what they think may be going on in case it's something else, too, of course. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
It doesn't feel like it's fluid. It doesn't sound like there's any fluid when he listened to his chest the last time. (I was thinking asthma or chf at that time). I just don't want to take him to the vet anymore. I don't see him for weeks after a vet visit. :( t MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good without reason to. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] my kittens!
I'm sure you've had many responses by now, but the answer is a big no. I've got a 10 year old leukemia positive on my bed with me right now. Fat, sassy, and happy. tonya SALLY NORDSTROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rescued a litter of kittens and they have been diagnosed with feline leukemia. Is this necessarily a death sentence? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
Hi all, I know many of you have had experience with fip. My cat sneaker has chronic herpes (vet thinks that's what it is.) he has difficulty breathing, but his lungs are clear. We've medicated him to no avail. And he is semiferal and hard to pill, much less use a nebulizer or anything. Anyway, I've noticed he seems to have gained weight in his belly. Would a cat that is over 10 years old harbor fip all that time? Wouldn't he act sicker if that's what it was? I've got a crf cat so I've been feeding more wet food. So I guess it could just be weight gain.. but it's a FAT tummy. Am I being paranoid. When he breathes through his nose it sounds like he has a cold. There is no sneezing and he has no eye discharge or anything. thanks in advance for any ideas. tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive
my opinion would be leave them together. they've already been together. the ones that are negative may have been positive and fought it off. if so they are probably now immune. t Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My two cents... even though they were all exposed equally. I would keep them apart. Repeated exposure is needed for infection to occur. So even though they are not positive now it could still happen. If you get to the point where the negative kitens are still negative after a few months and have had their vaccines you may be able to mix them then. For now I would separate. IMHO Sally(in VA) On 10/29/08, SALLY NORDSTROM wrote: Ok, guys, now I need more help! I picked the kittens up tonight and after I got home, I saw that only one tested positive. Can the other kittens be with her? Even though they tested negative, is the Humane Society worried that the others will eventually test positive? I don't understand any of this! --- On Wed, 10/29/08, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 4:29 PM Sally, I personally would not vaccinate a positive cat. See Jean Dodds' and Charles Loop's (both vets) views here. (The paragraph below is taken from the website.) Kerry M. http://www.newsagepress.com/protectyourpet.html All packages of vaccinations carry warnings that they should be injected only in healthy animals. In the case of cats, vaccine manufacturers advise against vaccinating pregnant or nursing cats. However, many pets are not healthy when vaccinated although they might not have outward signs of health problems. Charles Loops, DVM, a holistic veterinarian from Pittsboro, North Carolina, notes that chemically killed viruses or bacteria are injected directly into the blood stream, which is an unnatural route of infection. (7) This causes the animal's antibodies to attempt to fight off the offending virus molecules and render them harmless. If the animal's immune system is too weakened, he or she cannot fight off these viruses and can develop a reaction to the vaccine. Even small amounts of a virus that is introduced through a vaccination may be too much for sick animals to fight off. They then may fall ill from the very disease to which they have been vaccinated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SALLY NORDSTROM Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive Another question. My kittens tested positive with the ELISA test. May they have their vaccines? Mom gets tested Friday. If positive, may she have her vaccines? May she be spayed? _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food. he's been exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at least a year now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't know... t Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this was many years ago like 1972 when my Bud cat got sick. I was in college and my dad took hin to the vet who dx'd FIP. Now I know there were not tests done it was based on observation and he did not respond to antibiotics. Anyway the weekend I was to come home he left and was never seen again he was 10. I do not know about the tummy part I do know he was losing weight. Sally On 11/2/08, catatonya wrote: Hi all, I know many of you have had experience with fip. My cat sneaker has chronic herpes (vet thinks that's what it is.) he has difficulty breathing, but his lungs are clear. We've medicated him to no avail. And he is semiferal and hard to pill, much less use a nebulizer or anything. Anyway, I've noticed he seems to have gained weight in his belly. Would a cat that is over 10 years old harbor fip all that time? Wouldn't he act sicker if that's what it was? I've got a crf cat so I've been feeding more wet food. So I guess it could just be weight gain.. but it's a FAT tummy. Am I being paranoid. When he breathes through his nose it sounds like he has a cold. There is no sneezing and he has no eye discharge or anything. thanks in advance for any ideas. tonya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need suggestions help for 2 yr old leuk cat
My first positive cat had severe uri's. I took her to a homeopathic vet in addition to her regular vet and it got her through two really bad ones (almost pneumonia). The last time she got sick I had to let her go. She was just too hard to medicate and too miserable to go on. She lived to 7 or 8 years old though. tonya Claudia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I need your help!!! I just joined this website. I'm so glad something like this exists as a resource for people with feline leuk cats. I have a young cat (she's 2) who was feral, I started feeding her over the winter. She's been with me almsot 2 years now. I decided to bring her in the hosue 'cause she was a little kitten then, and I was worried about her being aout in the cold. She was fine for a while ( at least 5 moths) then developed a couph. I brought her to the vet, she was tested adn they said she had feline leukemia. She's been tested tiwce, so I guess she fdoes have it. I didn't knwo anything about thsi illness in cats. Since then, in the past 10 months, she's had a cold or upper respiratory problems, inclding possibly asthma and allergies chronically. It seems she's been getting sick evry 2-3 months. She's been on anitbiotics which has worked so far.In the past 3 weeks she's had an occasional couph, and he rbreathing ahsn't been normal. Sh's been on Clavamox anibiotic for 10 days, it's helped a little, but this apst Tuesday and Today, she had a coupel of episodes where she began a couphing fit, then started weezing, and panting for air, with her outh opening for a few seconds for air. IT was scary, I'd never seen her like that. I turned ont humidifier and that seemd to help her.One thig though was that when I've had the humidifier on for too long, I found mold on the windown int he room, and that's not good either. I'm planning on taking her to the vet tomorrow. I don't know what they'll tell me. I want to keep her healthy for as long as I can. HEr vet told me that she might have ashtma, but it was hard to tell form her X ray because she also has the Leukemia. The vet didn't want to put her on Steroids because it's deadly for leukemia cats. I'm wondering what to do??? I was told people ont his board know a lot about feline Leuk. Please offer any suggestions, recommendations. Thank you so much!!! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member, advice needed please!
It sounds like you're doing everything you can. My first positive went through 2 very bad periods and recovered to live to 7 or 8 years old. I hope Tora pulls through. take care, tonya amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] seeking home for adult feluk positive
I'm glad you're all right Tad. I've started saying no too. If something were to happen to me, there's no one to take care of all the critters. Take care of yourself. tonya Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Susan Every one has orange kitties lately... I just brought home a young orange boy a couple months ago and discovered I was having a heart attack the next morning... 4 days in the hospital... I currently have 9 FeLV+ and 12 seniors and am learning to say NO In the mean time there are 4 6month old orange kittens in eastern Mass. that are running out of time Help Tad Susan Hoffman wrote: Looks like it. How's your FeLv population anyway? (I have a lovely sweet FeLV+ girl --light orange/buff tabby -- living outside a house I just rented in need of a home.) --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking home for adult feluk positive To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 8:34 PM Am I still connected to this list Tad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New to group
I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my Jack-Jack today
I'm so sorry for your loss. tonya Wendy Griebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My little furbaby Jack-Jack crossed the bridge today. He had cancer and was not responding to treatment. We will miss him greatly. Wendy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] felv and my other cat
How old are the cats? Have they already been exposed to each other? tonya Dorlis Grote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, i just found out that my new baby has leukemia. took both my new cats in for shots. Homie is okay, but Annie tested positive. the vet said to keep them seperated. i can do that, but one of them is going to feel like she is being punished. they both like to sleep on my bed with me and this means one will no longer be able to sleep with me. how does one seperate them without feeling gulty about the one who will be left out. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7
I would not worry about mixing in this situation. jmo based on my experience of over 10 years of dealing with mixing. tonya Carolyn Rauschert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dorlis, I took in a FELV+ male cat last May. He was a stray who wanted to come in, but wasn't neutered. He became deathly sick after he was neutered by the Humane Society. They did not test him first. Since I felt responsible, I took him in to nurse. I doctored him the best I could and he has thrived. I kept him apart from my other 4 female negative cats for three months. Now I am letting him out for a good part of the day. He goes in his room at night (he has his own bedroom) and I feed him separate as best I can.. All my other cats have been vaccinated for years. I could not keep him locked up forever. Single MOM.Carolyn - Original Message - From: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad
Robyn, You and Kiwi are in my thoughts and prayers. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat. We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So Happy!
Yay!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone! Tweezers tests came back and it is likely that all that is wrong with him (Besides being positive) is a secondary infection! No liver stint. No blood parasites, no crystals, no micro cystosis. He already looks so much better. His eyes are not goopy, he seems to be gaining weight and no more watery stools. He actually was playing for the last day or so! Celebrate !! (Dance! Dance! Dance!) Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sharkey Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry, Sherry. tonya Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, damn. Gentle Bridge vibes to Sharkey. He knew he was loved. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:55 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Sharkey Please add to the CLS :( Well he was going to get to go home with his foster parents when he was well enough to,but he had worsen very quickly. We lost him on the 18th. He was a beautiful gray and white fluffy boy.He had a loving home for 5 months. Sherry ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing a new cat ~ when and what test
Most people will probably suggest another test, but I would be satisfied with another snap test. If all your own cats are negative and vaccinated I doubt there would be a problem. (Seriously doubt. like 99-1) even if she tested positive and you mixed her with adult vaccinated cats. Also, when I say my adults are vaccinated I don't mean that they are vaccinated yearly. When they were kittens they got their first dose and a booster. Then I vaccinate again the 2nd and 3rd year. After that, I don't vaccinate them anymore. And I've never had the virus transferred even though I've brought in several positives. tonya Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rescued a mama kitty and one kitten 2 months ago. Both mama and kitten tested negative for FeLV August 3. Mama stayed at vet office for 19 days. Lots of cats go through there because she is low cost SN who works with rescue. Mama has been at my house in a two room suite (with 2 sets of doors between her and my cats) for a month. I am taking her to local vet tomorrow for a check up (she has had a big belly since arrivinghas lost some of it with controlled feeding). I want to make sure she is healthy before exposing her to my five negatives. I am hoping to keep her. She's pretty timid and has a tendency to bite while she is grooming me so I worry about placing her in an adoptive home. I plan to have her tested for FeLV a second time tomorrow. Should I do the SNAP again or the one that tests bone marrow? Is 30 days in my house long enough or should I wait longer? She was in a cage at vet's office but the high cat traffic does concern me. Thanks! Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member
I disagree. I think the the vaccine is more effective than doctors give it credit for. I have had so many negative (vaccinated) cats exposed to positives, and have never had it transferred to one of them. tonya Sabrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine
Sounds like you've got a good vet! t Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I adopted Mandy in July 2007 and found out the next day that she was leukemia-positive. My vet said that the vaccine is 90+% effective and that the likelihood of my other six adult, healthy cats getting leukemia was extremely small. At this time, Mandy is very healthy (just at vet today) and the other six are fine. They have mixed without restriction all of this time. Pat - Original Message - From: Lorrie To: Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine Sabrina, Thanks for your feedback on the FelV vaccine. Years ago when the vaccine first came out I heard it was not too effective, but I hoped it had improved. Has anyone else had experience with the vaccine to share with me? Lorrie On 09-19, Sabrina wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried.
I would feed him really good food. Like maybe even a/d, or at least a good brand of kitten food. I would also put him on l-lysine for the eyes. Has he seen the vet yet. I don't think it would hurt to start him on interferon either. I have a cat that is 10 years old and still looks like a kitten. Sometimes kittens that have been inbred, or were born to young mothers (ferals, etc) just don't grow that big. Good luck, tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up the new FeLV+ kitty today and I am very worried about him. He is supposed to be close to two years old but he is the size of a kitten no older then 6 months. I can feel his bones as if he has been on the street starving. His eyes are a little gunky and his nose seems to be running. He eats like he has been starving and he drank an amazing amount of water. He just seems sickly. I am keeping him separated from my other cats just in case, and he will go to my vet as soon as I can get him an appointment. The other animals at this rescue seem very healthy, but I can't imagine why he is the way he is. Does anyone have any ideas? Could this be just another thing that happens to positive kitties? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried.
It never hurts to be overly cautious. But both my positives went through times that they were very symptomatic, and no one caught the felv from them. Of course all my other cats were vaccinated and adults. I would not mix a symptomatic cat with a kitten or unvaccinated cat. Good luck with your new little guy. tonya Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am responding only because this was just posted. Will let others respond to symptoms. I suspect the stress of the move could contribute now, too. Want to urge you, and I suspect you are already, to be very careful when going between him and your other cats as he is symptomatic. I would wash hands after handling your others and after handling him. He will be very susceptible, too, to anything they could be carrying. I would even wear certain clothes and socks when in his room with him and make sure no contact can occur under the door. As you already plan, I would get him to vet asap...tomorrow if possible. Is there an internal medicine specialist in your area? I assume you are giving him all the food he wants.. Bless you and bless his brave little self. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried. I picked up the new FeLV+ kitty today and I am very worried about him. He is supposed to be close to two years old but he is the size of a kitten no older then 6 months. I can feel his bones as if he has been on the street starving. His eyes are a little gunky and his nose seems to be running. He eats like he has been starving and he drank an amazing amount of water. He just seems sickly. I am keeping him separated from my other cats just in case, and he will go to my vet as soon as I can get him an appointment. The other animals at this rescue seem very healthy, but I can't imagine why he is the way he is. Does anyone have any ideas? Could this be just another thing that happens to positive kitties? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue
Way to go, Kelley! t Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was on the set of the Friday Night Lights TV show, where I sometimes works as an extra. I was hanging around waiting for the shooting to start when I noticed one of the principals, Taylor Kitsch, petting a cat and feeding her ice cream off the catering truck. I asked him if he knew anything about the cat and he said, No, but she's friendly! I went and got the kitty some cat food, bowls, and water out of my truck. One of the other principals, Minka Kelly,seemed amazed that I had produced a 20 pound bag of cat food in the middle of the night. I explained to her that I did cat rescue and I always carried these items, and gave her my card in case they ran into any more kitties in need at any of the other shooting locations. We had to wait to come back and get the kitty until we had the property owner's permission. So Sunday night we went back and obtained permission. Seems the property owner also has an unaltered male cat on the property named Hot Sauce. We shared our dinner with Hot Sauce and found him to be a very lovable kitty. We got permission from the property owner to have him neutered and then return him. We also found that our new kitty (we named her Taylor) had 3 adorable little kittens. One brown tabby and white, one blue tabby, and one blue tabby and white. They are all safe and warm and fed at one of our great foster parents' homes now. I have taken lots of pics of the kittens now, some are posted at http://www.rescuties.net Taylor is combo neg. The kittens are too young to be tested. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] worried Mom seeking info
Since he has already been exposed to your cats, it's highly unlikely that this will cause any problem. FeLV is not very contagious at all (if at all) between adult, vaccinated cats. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Jackie and I am seeking advice. A year ago I started trapping and altering strays. The first male I caught settled down quite a bit. I started letting him in now and then and eventually I started keeping him in. I have 4 other cats (all strictly indoor). I felt for this guy, he was a rough and tumble wild guy, but he was so sweet after he was fixed. He recently tested positive for leukemia and I have never had to deal with this kind of disease before. I talked to the doctor some and she recommended we retest him in 6 weeks, but I'm worried I'm endangering my other cats by having him inside. They are vaccinated, but he is so dominating. I used to let him out on occasion to let off a little steam. Now I can't do that and he got into a scuffle with one of my other cats this weekend. I don't want to euthanize him, but I don't know what else to do. I would appreciate your opinions on my situation. Thanks, Jackie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
