Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD -from tonya

2013-04-25 Thread catatonya
Hi Catherine,
 
I'm not on list very much. I have had a felv positive cat since 2001. No one 
ever 'caught' it from her. 2 years ago I took in 2 kittens with genetic 
problems.  One has chronic herpes in her eye and never grew to a normal size. I 
vaccinated them and boostered them before bringing in with my other cats. They 
are still negative.
 
My felv cat and my next oldest cat are not in great health. I watch their 
numbers (get blood checked). Neither has kidney problems yet, but vet told me 
that's the way most indoor cats die. And I've known it to be true with my 
negative cats.
 
I don't think I would give felv vacination to a cat who is already sick, or the 
other cat who is negative. That cat will stay negative. Also, if they both had 
vaccine and booster (on time) when they were young, I don't think a booster 
would make a difference. People don't keep getting measles, mumps, chicken pox 
vaccinations over and over. And if you happen to still get the mumps (like I 
did) they didn't give me a new mumps vaccination.
 
Unless I've missed something in this thread, I would go through archives and 
look for vitamins, herbs, special foods, etc... that others have used.
 
I would put them both on a kidney diet. (My vet just told me that the 
Prescription kidney diets are starting to change so I'm not sure which one 
I'd use. Research it.)
 
I would also make sure both cats drink lots and lots of water. When I change a 
bowl, my oldest cat drinks. So I change it every time I walk by. With 2 cats 
you could get a fountain. 
 
If possible, go to wet food if that's not what you're using. I would fatten up 
if they are thin.
 
L-Lysine, Vitamin C, Fish oil, for sure.
 
I don't post often, as I said. Add my name to subject line if you have question 
for me.
 
I wish you the best of luck.
 
Tonya



 From: Sharon Catalan scata...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats 
with the new drugs
  

Hello Catherine,

My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with 
Felv.  He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.  Try 
it.  It may lengthen the life of your kitty.  

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On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, I-Chun C. C. Chang  changic...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 
 Dear Felvalk friends, 
 
 I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the 
 treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
 
 My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got 
 her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  After 
 I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four 
 years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another 
 cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years.  
 From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no 
 exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction to the 
 vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.    
 
 Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed 
 her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) 
 due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but 
 her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not 
 only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also 
 very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came 
 back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but 
 he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on him). 
 
 We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has 
 mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), 
 she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into 
 sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on 
 the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: 
 ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  
 
 Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
 with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
 really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree 
 soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with 
 me... 
 
 Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!
 
 I. Catherine  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-12-30 Thread catatonya
I went with an outoor love seat and 2 chairs with removable cushions. I have a 
glider already. If someone comes over I'll get the cushions out of the spare 
bedroom and put them on the patio furniture. lol.
 
I think you could mix the cat attract. Maybe start out with it straight, and if 
it works, start mixing regular back in I had one cat years ago that cat 
attract worke for.
 
I also know people use the small kiddy wading pools for litter boxesI've 
never tried that, but when it got bad in the past, I just put litter boxes in 
every room they used. I sat them on the sofas, on a chest at the bottom of my 
bed, etc... I'm down to 5 cats, but I still have to separate food and water 
dishes in all different rooms I always have more food bowls than there are 
cats. You might increase the number of litter boxes and spread them out. The 
cats do like to corner and pounce on unsuspecting victims eating or in the 
litterbox!
 
God bless you and all who rescue. Believe it or not, I've had more dog problems 
recently. I haven't even moved the patio furniture from the basement where it 
was delivered up to the living room. My old sofas are in various stages of 
being taken apart since I can't give them to Goodwill! I've been 'handicapping' 
the back deck stairs with lights and astro turf to prevent falls from a couple 
of elderly dogs
 
 
Happy New Year!
tonya


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the 
pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-12-10 Thread catatonya
Positively crazy! lol!




 From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

Tonya, 
You have such positive outlook, god bless you!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 14, 2012, at 16:32, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:


Thanks Lee,
 
I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered 
my laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a 
lot..on hard tile floors
 
Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions 
made to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live 
by myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I 
have company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on 
the sofas anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
 
Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted 
layers on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off 
the top mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
 
I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the 
sofas! Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they 
have the power!
 
I saw a lots great ideas!  
 
My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
eventually have kidney problems true.
 
tonya



 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  
You can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when 
the pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can 
have the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  
that can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and 
turn the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually 
get donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box 
that I no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  
The President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an 
outside shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will 
never learn litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner 
passed away.  They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

2012-12-03 Thread catatonya
I don't care what it looks like. I care what it smells like. Lol. I did order 
some patio furniture from Home Depot. It's not that comfortable, but I only put 
cushions on the chair I'll be sitting in since I live by myself. When I go to 
bed I throw the cushions in the spare bedroom. I don't have to cover or vacuum 
them because I don't take them out  unless someone comes over. As soon as they 
leave I put the cushions away. If a cushion does get peed on it can be washed. 
I have nothing upholstered left in my house.
 
It does look better, but mostly it saves me all the work of covering it and 
vacuuming it, and washing all the various coverings.
 
Also was cheap because I bought it off season. Additionally if a cushion gets 
ruined I can always by new patio furniture cushions in the future.
 
I'm hoping this will make things cheaper. I typically take any couch friends 
are giving away and throw it away when it gets peed on in a place where the 
cats have uncovered all plastic
 
tonya



 From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com
To: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
  

Sounds perfect to me!
Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:


Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need.  I live in 
South Texas.  We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to a 
rural area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to deal 
with stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own ordinances, 
I also have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking crawlies.  I tend to 
stay away from anything upholstered in favor of washable pillows, washable 
patio cushions, large towels from Goodwill and snuggy cat beds and blankets. 
Anything that can't be hosed down or tossed into the washing machine has no 
place in a house that 38 cats call home. As long as I can park my rump on 
something that is clean, won't have any hidden, stinging surprises and is 
fairly comfortable, I don't care what it looks like.

Fortunately,
 almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm normal.  




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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

2012-11-29 Thread catatonya
This happened to one of my cats. He ended up negative. I hope the same happens 
for yours.
tonya



 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
  
Sandy hit us hard!  We had 3 feet of heavy wet snow which pulled down trees
as well as electric and phone lines.  I had no idea we'd get hit so hard
this far inland, as we are in the eastern mountains of WV, but we had no
electricity for two weeks and we still don't have a phone or internet
service. We have to drive out to a place that has service.

Anyway, I was not able to check into the group all this time, and I was
very worried about that cat in Ohio who was abandoned.  Now I know both
cats are fine and have found a home.  

THANK YOU A MILLION TIMES for your kindness in taking these poor babies.  
The woman who abandoned them should be ashamed of herself. I'd like to 
see her chained to her front porch all winter with no food or shelter!

Lorrie and 24 rescued cats

On 10-31, Kathryn Green wrote:
 Thanks to all for kind words.  I am what I am - an animal lover.
 
 For those who care to know:
 
 I got both cats tho had to drive all the way to camp ground, (abt 6
 hrs round trip), as cats were uncooperative to the point of downright
 hostility when Marcia's brother, Craig, had them in cardboard
 carriers.  Cat scratch fever!  He ended up putting them/in folding dog
 crate til I got there.
 
 Appears the grey one (actually more of a brown/black/grey tabby), was
 NOT the one the woman had deserted.  The smaller black female was
 hers.  The grey is a battle scarred fully intact male who roamed the
 campground.  Craig had the honor of naming him - Ozzie it is.  Oz for
 short.  I am concerned about him as he is hoarse, has a funny nose,
 tearing eyes and sneezesupper resp issues at the very least I
 suspect.  As soon as I closed them in my master bathroom (quarantine),
 he spent over 1/2 hr scarfing down food and water.
 
 Smaller black cat appears to have absolutely NO white on her.  Not on
 chest, feet, tip of tail, nothing.  Never seen one pure black before.
 She is a lover/lap cat.  First thing out of carrier she made one round
 of bathroom and used the litter pan.  My kind of Kitty.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread catatonya
Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive cat DD is 
doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents over the summer, 
and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet visit found her 
healthy
 
I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating bills 
in the winter!
 
My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to no 
effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in plastic 
and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the plastic away 
and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a love seat turned 
upside down in my living room right now where I gave up!
 
tonya



 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat
  


For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
 adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults 
with bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With 
all the cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem 
with at least one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my 
hair out and dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly 
mom's disposable mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't 
incontinent but she couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in 
case...I would use the mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the 
washable types when one of my very old cats began thinking the bed was 
her litter box.  You can also purchase a zippered waterproof mattress 
cover, then put a regular quilted mattress topper over it
 and just toss the topper into the washing machine if someone makes a 
mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing alcohol.  It's a good 
deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer, if you don't want to
 feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top removable types 
and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if they are 
disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make up the 
bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper over
 the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an 
accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for 
sleeping in the bed.

For the nasty drip into the mattress I would
 recommend an enzyme type odor eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which
 you can purchase at PetsMart.  It doesn't have any added scent as a 
cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the odor of cat pee to those awful
 perfumes
 they dump into deodorizers.  When you use the enzyme type deodorizer, 
you have to make sure the spot stays wet for at least 24 hours.  If it 
dries out, by-by little beneficial bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come up 
with. There are many brands and many prices.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?

2012-11-14 Thread catatonya
Thanks Lee,
 
I have a 'special needs'... mentally and physically cat that pulls all 
things shiny out. I would have to use safety pins and pray she didn't kill 
herself trying to chew it. She chews electrical cords as well and shattered my 
laptop display She has the bobble head disorder. She also falls a lot..on 
hard tile floors
 
Actually, a friend recommended I buy outdoor patio furniture with cushions made 
to be washed. Not a bad idea, I'm thinking.  Not too comfy, but I live by 
myself. I could just keep all the cushions in the spare bedroom unless I have 
company.  I kept all sofa cushions put away already, and they peed on the sofas 
anyway. No wicker, but they can't scratch metal. I'm considering it.
 
Except for the heating aspect, my bed has at least 4 waterproof quilted layers 
on it. When someone wets the bed I can throw off the covers, peel off the top 
mattress pad, shower off, grab a blanket, and go back to sleep!
 
I have conquered the bed and done away with carpet. I'm good except the sofas! 
Of course they'll just find another place if they want. They know they have the 
power!
 
I saw a lots great ideas!  
 
My vet said to just face the fact that if you have elderly cats they will 
eventually have kidney problems true.
 
tonya
 


 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
  

To prevent the bedding and sofa covers from being snatched off the furniture 
by the cat you can purchase sticky-back Velcro.  Attach one side to the 
underside of the plastic sheeting or whatever you are using and place the 
matching strip on the sofa and press down to stick it to the sofa material.  
It doesn't have to be perfect but it will prevent the plastic from drifting 
away off the sofa.  You can also use things like metal clips purchased at an 
office supply store to clip the plastic to the sofa. Use enough of them.  You 
can also purchase screw pins that are used to pin sofa covers to old 
furniture.  Doesn't do any damage.  The small hole it makes closes up when the 
pin is removed.  

Have you thought about buying a fitted sofa and love seat cover?  You can have 
the back plasticized with a
 heat process.  You have to look this up in the phone book though, under 
plasticizing or phone an upholstery company and see if they can do that.  

As a last resort, put your sofa and love seat and TV in a separate room  that 
can be closed off and put plastic lawn furniture in you living room and turn 
the living room over to the misbehaving cat.

I'm going to buy some of that cat attract litter.  Can it be mixed with pine 
litter or clay litter? I can't afford anything very expensive.  I usually get 
donated litter here.  I have so many cats who think outside of the box that I 
no longer use a pooper scooper.  I use a small yard shovel.  Sigh.  The 
President of one of our rescue organizations is going to build an outside 
shelter attached to a shed on her property for 15 cats who will never learn 
litter box protocol.  They were rescued after their former owner passed away.  
They are older
 cats with set habits and some health issues, not adoptable.  It seems like the 
cat rescue movement is  filled with saints and angels, the best of the human 
species.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09

2009-09-06 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry for your loss.
tonya

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 4:42 PM


I had to make that last vet trip with my dear sweet Mattie today.  She lost the 
use of her back legs last week due to neurological issues from the FeLV.  The 
paralysis spread and she had lost bladder and bowel control.  She was still 
eating and grooming herself but I couldn't wait until she was suffering.  She 
deserved better than that.  She fell asleep in my arms from the sedative and 
never felt the 2nd shot.

Even though blind since birth she was the most inquisitive kitten I've ever 
had.  No challenge was too great for her.  She is the last of a litter of 4 
positive babies I rescued last summer.  What amazes me is that their mom and 3 
aunts, all positives and now spayed, are still doing fine.  

All I can say is Mattie had a wonderful 12 months wanting for nothing and 
teaching me so much.  I learned not to let a handicap limit me.  It sure didn't 
limit her love of life.   She is now at the Rainbow Bridge with Bright Eyes, 
Houdini, and CJ.

Sharyl


      

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Re: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(

2009-09-06 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry, Sherry.
tonya

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From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Mo Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:53 PM


We lost our sweet three legged Mo(missing one) tonight.he was quite a 
character.I used to get a laugh when he would swat at the other Sids kids with 
his phantom leg and THEY would actually duck like he was going to hit them.He 
also would scratch at your foot to get your attention.He also would put his paw 
up on your back while you sat on the floor.He sure made it clear he wanted to 
be loved. :) Dr. Jen gave me the chance to go say my good byes today and he 
purred like a motor boat.He also gave me a quick kiss on my hand..We will miss 
you our beautiful black tripod boy. :(
Sherry
 


 
We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

2009-09-02 Thread catatonya
Hi Lorrie,
 
This response is very late I know.  My vets won't come to my home to euthanize, 
but if you look in the phone book you can possibly find a 'mobile vet' who 
will.  I'm sorry you are going through this.  It is so hard.
tonya

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:


From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 4:02 PM


Dear Friends,  I have a difficult decision to make, and I hope you
can help...  I have several FelV cats at a shelter I have in
town. Most remain in good health by all appearances, however one 8
year old female has been steadily losing weight, she is now very
anemic; extremely emaciatedm and she stopped eating two days ago. She
will still lick a bit of baby food from my fingers, and she is still
drinking water, but this is all. I know she is probably going to die
soon, but I want her to die in familiar surroundings where she is
loved, rather than having to make a trip to the vet which is always
terrifying for cats. The vets here will not come out to see or
euthanize a sick cat.

This cat does not appear to be in any pain. She has no tumors, nor
neurogical symptoms, but I know she will soon die from the anemia.
I do not believe in extending the life of a cat who has a terminal
illness, therefore I will not put her through transfusions or heroic
measures.  If I had a terminal illness I would not wish this for
myself!

What I'm asking is this I'm sure some of you have had anemic
FelV cats and I want to know if dying from anemia is painful.  If so
I will have her put to sleep. Even though I know the trip to the vet
will be frightening for her... I do not want her to suffer.

Thank you for your help,

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] My New Kitty

2009-08-31 Thread catatonya
My positive is at least 10 years old.

--- On Fri, 8/7/09, D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My New Kitty
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 3:05 AM


She is a lover...sleeps by my husband's legs at nightthere are no children 
in the house.She has a playmate...he is 3 but is as mellow as can be
 
Thanks for the encouragementbut there was no way I would return her to the 
pound or have her put to sleep... We named her Samara which means 
Companionand that is what she will be
 


 
A failure is just a stopover on the way to SUCCESS.

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From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My New Kitty
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 11:08 PM


You may have her a lot longer than you think.  Dixie stayed with me 3 years and 
there are others who have had pos cats a lot longer than that.  Keep her as  
stress free and as well fed as you can and she may reward you with many, many 
years.I pray so.  Bless you for making the right decision for this little 
one.
On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:31 AM, D.S.Louis wrote:

 Brought my new kitty home from the pound on Sat and found out this morning 
 she is Feline pos.  WE were given the choice to return her or have her put to 
 sleep..orbring her home..
 
 WE decided to bring her home...Although we may only have her for a short 
 time...She will be loved and cared for with no regrets  She is a 
 beautiful Siamese..and about 2 yrs old...and gas all ready brought much joy 
 to our lives...
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Shelton Please add to the CLS :(

2009-08-23 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry Sherry.
tonya

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Shelton Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:33 PM



I am sad to say that we lost our big beautiful black boy Shelton today.He 
always had a friendly purrsonality and he was asweet talker. :) RIP sweet boy.
Sherry
 
 
 
 
 
We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

2009-08-02 Thread catatonya
My DD is at least 10 she's been positive since i got her. test on elisa and 
the other one.

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:


From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:30 PM


GLOW for cleveland!

and my friend KatieKalico is about 12 now, and still going strong--still
positive, and the other cats in her house are still negative (they are ALL
vaccinated, including Katie)

i'm really starting to wonder how many positives--even true positives, not
just those who test positive once on an ELISSA and are never
retested--actually get sick? it might be a very small number, but no one's
ever looked into it since FeLVs are easier to just kill.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

2009-08-02 Thread catatonya
My stats to begin with. 11 cats
1 turned up positive and I kept her.  She lived to 7 or 8.
1 positive is probably 10 by now and is fine and dandy.
 
I'm down to 4 cats now.  I've lost more cats to old age reanal disease.
tonya

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:54 PM



All I can do is give you my stats.

6 positives in the house; 3 died before they were 1; 2 thriving at age 2, 1 
thriving at age 1.
2 positives in the dumpster colony I TNR'd; both still thriving at age 2.

Sissy, one of my house 2 y/o, has always had swollen lymph glands. Rocket, her 
sister, does not have any symptoms.   

From what I have read here, it seems some kitties are just genetically better 
able to cope with the disease.  Maybe they have stronger immune systems.  
Since all of mine come from the same dumpster colony I do not expect any of 
them to see 20.  I am happy for each good day we have. 

I've lost cats to CRF, heart disease and a dog attack in addition to FeLV.   I 
learned to treasure each day we have together.  Worrying about the future 
doesn't help me or the cats.

Hug your kitty for me
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Sander, Sue sue.san...@ssa.gov wrote:

 From: Sander, Sue sue.san...@ssa.gov
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:35 PM
 That is really what I would LOVE to
 know.  Sammie is very healthy and I
 almost died when he tested positive.  I'm trying
 everything I can to
 keep his immune system as healthy as I can.  I don't
 know much about
 cats - he is my first and was a stray.  I am now
 looking into BLUE SEAL
 FOOD with Belinda told me about and someone told me about
 AC-11.
 
 Thank you so much for writing.
 
 Susan 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of MaryChristine
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:31 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
 
 GLOW for cleveland!
 
 and my friend KatieKalico is about 12 now, and still going
 strong--still
 positive, and the other cats in her house are still
 negative (they are
 ALL vaccinated, including Katie)
 
 i'm really starting to wonder how many positives--even true
 positives,
 not just those who test positive once on an ELISSA and are
 never
 retested--actually get sick? it might be a very small
 number, but no
 one's ever looked into it since FeLVs are easier to just
 kill.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin

2009-08-02 Thread catatonya
I must have missed this one.  Why can't you keep your positive??
tonya

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:32 PM


I rescued an FeLV cat and after weeks and weeks of searching for a sanctuary I 
found two that can take him in. Home for Life and 'Not So' Purrrfect Angels in 
Fresno (CA) are the two places I found. The issue with Home for Life is that is 
too far from CA and I can't take him there personally. Therefore, I would like 
to speak to someone who personally know the place. I need to know if HFL is a 
good place for my FeLV kitty.
Purrrfect Angels is only a 3 hour drive from L.A. but the FeLV room is very 
small. It can only house 6 cats. Right now they have two. With my cat it will 
be three.
 
--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Cindy Jackson qne...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Cindy Jackson qne...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 8:22 PM


Reyna,
 
Are you surrendering a cat to Home for Life?

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From: Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 8:16 PM


I assumed you knew about them from personal experience because you mentioned in 
an 
e-mail that you knew the place personally.
 
Maybe is too much to ask but can I have the e-mail of the people you know that 
have taken cats to HFL? I want to speak to someone that personally knows Home 
for Life.

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From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Home For Life Animal Sanctuary in western Wisconsin
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 7:59 PM


if i knew them personally i would have said so.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Have I done enough to open the room where our beautiful little FELV+ kitty died?

2009-08-02 Thread catatonya
are your other cats vaccinated? if so I would go ahead.

--- On Tue, 7/21/09, margaret-sou...@comcast.net margaret-sou...@comcast.net 
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From: margaret-sou...@comcast.net margaret-sou...@comcast.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Have I done enough to open the room where our beautiful 
little FELV+ kitty died?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:12 AM




I hope we can get some advice. 



Last Monday we had to have our beautiful little foster kitty euthanized.  We 
belong to a rescue group that pulls and fosters cats at the local county 
shelter who are in danger of being put down.  



We found out about a week after pulling little Maybelline that she was FELV+.  
Our vet did complete blood work on her.  Her pvc was only 20 (normal being 
30-45), but she was eating and loved attention.  We were so hopeful and of 
course adopted her immediately.  



Within ten days or so Maybelline became listless and wouldn't eat.  Our vet 
rushed over.  Total count was down to 8% and immediately we rushed Maybelline 
to the local vet hospital for a blood transfusion.  She did really well; 
predisone was also described.  Again we were hopeful.  Our vet planned to check 
her count every week. 



At week one it was 15%, not great, but if she could maintain it and EAT, she 
could continue on.  



In only 5 days we noticed same ominous symptoms again.  Vet rechecked 
Maybelline's blood.  Count was down to 10% and her gums were terribly pale.  In 
good conscience our vet said we simply couldn't transfuse every two weeks, it 
just wasn't fair to our little girl.  



I heard this news when in Boston visitng my aging (95.5 yrs) mother.  My 
husband had been prepared that Maybelline might die over the weekend before I 
returned.  My husband tried everything he knew to get her to eat, but nothing 
really worked.  She was just too weak. 



Thankfully, little Maybelline lasted through the weekend.  Sunday we tried to 
spend as much time as possible with her.  Monday our vet euthanized her.  Both 
of us were crying.  I'm still having bad spells as it just seemed so 
preventable and unnecessary if only Maybelline's first owners had vaccinated 
her! 



Anyhow, we kept her completely separate from our other five kitties.  We've 
cleaned the room thoroughly (soap and water on floors and walls she might have 
touched) and removed her litter box.  I always kept her food dishes separate.  
The perch cover and blankets and sheets she touched or slept on have been 
washed with bleach.  Only a few furniture surfaces like the legs on the bed or 
desk haven't been washed.  Should they be?  While we would take another FELV+ 
kitty in a heartbeat (just hope we'd have them a little longer!), we definitely 
don't want to jeopardize our other little ones who are 100% healthy and have 
had vaccinations against FELV. 



Can we open the room at this point?  Our other five kitties used to play in it, 
but we heard no complaints when Maybelline occupied it! 



We'd appreciate any advice anyone can give on this topic.  I'm sorry our story 
is so long-winded; we just wished we could have done more for our poor little 
girl! 



Sincerely, 



Maggie  Clark Souers 



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Re: [Felvtalk] PUREVAX FELV vaccine

2009-07-21 Thread catatonya
No advice, but I'm so sorry. I would not get her another rabies shot.  Keep us 
posted.
tonya

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PUREVAX FELV vaccine
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 3:12 PM


do they have same kind of vaccine for rabies, etc?  
my newest felv pos kitty (NitNoy) has had a reaction to rabies vac.  dr. not 
sure if it is sarcoma or not.  at present we are waiting a fe days to see if it 
grows or not.  if it does, will have to remove soon before have to take whole 
leg.  ANYONE HAVE ANY ADVICE ON THIS?  dorlis  she is about 1 - 1-1/2 yrs old, 
semi feral.  she also has an attitude problem - charges everyone and gets 
downright nasty.  she had her tail amputated by a raccoon (at least we think so 
from her reaction on seeing them).  i found her tail in the yard a week later.  
my other problem is Annie and CAsey - they hate each other.  Felway and Bach's 
don't seem to do any good.  dorlis
 Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I have not, but Purevax rabies vaccine is widely believed to be both the
 best vaccine and the least likely to cause VAS.  It is also more expensive,
 and not all vet clinics carry it.
 
 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:
 
  I just heard about the PUREVAX FELV vaccine.  This is administered with a
  transdermal technology
  that does not result in possible injection site sarcomas.
  Has anyone experience with this or heard anything especially with respect
  to the efficacy of it compared to the traditional one?
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Adopted an FIV+

2009-07-20 Thread catatonya
Congratulations!  I would probable do the lysine and maybe add some vitamin C.
tonya

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From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Adopted an FIV+
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:18 PM


  This message is from Sue (address below), for some reason it got cut so I am 
forwarding it.  Not sure if this is Sue's list email so if you reply you may 
want to CC her on it [fs...@roadrunner.com] to make sure she gets your reply.


Subject:
Adopted an FIV+
From:
Frank and Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com
Date:
Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:04:00 -0400

To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org



Today I brought a new 15 year old cat home from the shelter.  He is a very 
sweet flame point  FIV positive.  I know next to nothing about FIV except that 
it is not supposed to be as easy to transmit as feline leukemia..  Does anyone 
have any information or links for FIV?  He seems very healty except for goopy 
eyes.  He is going to get Wellness food with lysine mixed into it.
Thanks for any advise!
Sue

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Re: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV

2009-07-19 Thread catatonya
I've brought in 2 positives over the years. no problems.
tonya

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Elizabeth Paz mothernatur...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Elizabeth Paz mothernatur...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:06 PM







Dear Sandra,



My Kitty (his name) has FELV, we got him when he was 7 months from students.. 
He was diagnosed with Felv when he was not quite two, he is now 8 1/2 and the 
felv has been kept at bay with the Prednisone.  I also worried about my other 
cat Simba being exposed to him, because they would played and sleep together 
and this was long before we knew Kitty had the Felv.  It has been 6 1/2 years 
now and Simba has been tested and no sign of Felv. Both have always been indoor 
cats.



Liz














 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:37:43 -0400
 From: gopila...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV
 
 Hi there,
 I'm new to this... looking for some advice. I took in a stray, she's
 about 7 months old. She tested positive for FeLV. I didn't know she
 had FeLV. I took her in as she was hanging out on the patio of a
 restaurant, near a busy street. The owners of the restaurant were
 going to take her to the humane society.
 I already have a cat, who is not FeLV positive. The stray is with me
 while I try to re-home her, and my cat is with a friend.
 In an ideal world, I would like to keep the stray (Penny) and have her
 and my cat.
 Is this possible? Should I have Penny re-tested with a DNA test to
 make sure she does have FeLV?
 My cat (Stella) is an indoor cat, 7 years old. and has had all of her
 shots every year except for the last year.
 Is there any way they can live together with Penny being FeLV positive?
 any insight or links to relevant websites/postings would be greatly 
 appreciated!
 thank you.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing

2009-06-18 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry for your loss.  :(
tonya

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From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:09 PM



His name is Maverick. 

He woke up this morning with a yellow color and has let us know he's had 
enough.  We just returned from the vet and he had a peaceful passing.

Amy

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 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:45 AM
 Poor guy. What is his name? 
 Please keep us posted.
 Laurie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Amy
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:22 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
 
 
 Yeah, the vet does know about it.  He threw it up and
 she said that means it
 was recently ingested.  She said we can look at his
 belly today if we want
 but she said she felt while we were there and his belly
 felt fine.  I read,
 and so did she, that one of the main reasons cats eat
 litter is because of
 anemia and we already know that's going on.  I've lost
 the majority of my
 leuk positives over the years the same way.  Either
 anemisa or tumors.  We
 do full blood workups every 6 months to try to keep an eye
 on anemia but
 I've never been able to bring one back yet once the
 hematocrit starts
 dropping quickly.  I expected him to live longer
 because I've lost most of
 my guys with hematocrits between 7-13 and his is 23. 
 This guy is fading,
 though, and I think he's probably had enough.  I'm
 just trying to decide if
 I want to do bloodwork and radiographs or if I want to just
 let him go
 peacefully without disturbing him any further.  I have
 no doubt that the
  leukemia has just taken it's toll on him :(  
 
 He also has Bartonella and despite numerous treatments, has
 not been able to
 shake it.  We couldn't figure it out because any other
 cats I've treated
 have responded quite well.  This guy's numbers
 actually got worse after
 treatment so I'm thinking his body just doesn't have the
 means to cope with
 fighting it off.
 
 Amy
 
 
    I would be real concerned with
  clumping litter if he ate any, you know what it does
 when it
  gets wet.  Does the vet know about that?  I have
  heard that cats shouldn't get tums, will see if I can
 find
  the palce I read it.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS

2009-06-17 Thread catatonya
Kelley,
 
I'm so sorry to hear this.  I just hate people like that.  I try not to, but I 
do.
 
tonya

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From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Jack - please add to CLS
To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:40 AM


First, can I say how annoyed I am with the neighbors?  I don't know if yall
remember, but Jack was the neighbor's tomcat we got neutered that was
pos/pos for FELV and FIV.  I try so hard to be charitable with people, and
am usually successful, and this person is in a wheelchair, but apparently
they saw Jack out in the yard not moving (but still alive) and brought him
in and put him on the back porch and he was there 3 days before he died.
They didn't call me for assistance, or anything, I would have taken him to
the vet and put it on our burgeoning credit card bill.  Now they have new
kittens which we will have to take to get altered also, or it won't get
done...and she took a dog to the pound to be killed because he bit someone -
now she wants an Irish Setter puppy..sigh.   We have it in our code of
ethics that people are animals too, and should be treated well..but
sometimes it is just hard.
Anyway, please add Jack to the CLS...may he have a better life over the
bridge than he did here, and may he forgive me for not doing anything to
help him, I would have done so if I had known.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Adam Please add to the CLS :(

2009-06-10 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry Sherry.
tonya

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Adam Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 8:53 PM


I am heavy hearted as we lost Adam yesterday.I will miss this handsome boy.he 
used to jump on my back while I was bent over scooping and my shirt would slide 
up,then he would put his cold feet on my bare back. :) He was an awesome sweet 
baby.I will miss you my Adam.
 


 
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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now

2009-06-10 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry. :(
tonya

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net wrote:


From: Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:32 PM



Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, 
becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their 
best for her through the  weekend. 

Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone 
could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked 
her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. 

We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it 
was. She was much loved. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats.

2009-06-08 Thread catatonya
1/4 baby aspirin every 3 days

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:


From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats.
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:41 AM


Two different vets told me one whole baby aspirin (enteric coated)
every 48 hours, for full grown cats, was the proper does.

Lorrie

On 05-29, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:
 Jody, 
 
 Did the vet say a whole baby aspirin?  On the internet I'm seeing
 that the recommended dose is 1/4 of a baby aspirin every 3 or 4
 days, since cats' livers don't process aspirin very well.  It's not
 common but not unheard of for a vet to prescribe aspirin, but
 usually a mini-dose as described.  Is there an emergency vet where
 you live that you can call to check whether the dose you gave Darcy
 is okay?  I'm not trying to scare you (I know, probably too late
 for that) but if another vet thinks the dose your vet said is okay,
 then it probably is, but if it isn't you'll want to know that asap,
 right?
 
 I would assume you have checked the incision site for inflammation?  
 
 Here are big vibes that Darcy feels better very soon without further
 intervention.  Hugs to you.
 
 Diane R.
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jody Butler
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:37 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Thoughts  Prayers Needed for Darcy
 
 Our sweet baby, Darcy, ten months old and FeLV+ was neutered on Tuesday.? We
 brought her home Wednesday and she seemed okay, considering she'd just had
 surgery.
 ?
 Yesterday she was in more pain, but we just figured the pain shot they'd
 given that was supposed to be good for two days was wearing off.
 ?
 Today is even worse.? I called the vet this AM.? She suggested giving a baby
 aspirin, which I did before going to work.
 ?
 Tonight, she barely lifts her head and is mewing so pitifully.? She ate some
 earlier in the day but won't eat tonight.? I called the vet again, and she
 had me give 1/8 of an antibiotic and we'll bring her in tomorrow morning
 first thing.? We've had other FeLV kitties neutered with no troubles, but
 I'm getting scared tonight.
 ?
 I just needed to share this tonight.? Any encouraging words or suggestions
 are greatly appreciated!
 ?
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Re: [Felvtalk] sad news

2009-06-08 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry Jaci.  :(
tonya

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, jastiff...@aol.com jastiff...@aol.com wrote:


From: jastiff...@aol.com jastiff...@aol.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] sad news
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 11:10 AM


Hello everyone, 

I'm sad to say that I lost my BB todayhe was a brave boy who went as far as 
he could in this life.? I got to be there and hold him one last time as he went 
to sleep.? Thanks to everyone for their kindnessthere will always be a 
place in my heart, and a piece missing from my life for my sweet BB.? Thanks 
also for this forum and the information that you are trying to spread about 
this horrible disease.? 

Jaci


-Original Message-
From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats.



1/4 baby aspirin every 3 days

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:


From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats.
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:41 AM


Two different vets told me one whole baby aspirin (enteric coated)
every 48 hours, for full grown cats, was the proper does.

Lorrie

On 05-29, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:
 Jody, 
 
 Did the vet say a whole baby aspirin?? On the internet I'm seeing
 that the recommended dose is 1/4 of a baby aspirin every 3 or 4
 days, since cats' livers don't process aspirin very well.? It's not
 common but not unheard of for a vet to prescribe aspirin, but
 usually a mini-dose as described.? Is there an emergency vet where
 you live that you can call to check whether the dose you gave Darcy
 is okay?? I'm not trying to scare you (I know, probably too late
 for that) but if another vet thinks the dose your vet said is okay,
 then it probably is, but if it isn't you'll want to know that asap,
 right?
 
 I would assume you have checked the incision site for inflammation?? 
 
 Here are big vibes that Darcy feels better very soon without further
 intervention.? Hugs to you.
 
 Diane R.
 
? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jody Butler
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:37 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Thoughts  Prayers Needed for Darcy
 
 Our sweet baby, Darcy, ten months old and FeLV+ was neutered on Tuesday.? We
 brought her home Wednesday and she seemed okay, considering she'd just had
 surgery.
 ?
 Yesterday she was in more pain, but we just figured the pain shot they'd
 given that was supposed to be good for two days was wearing off.
 ?
 Today is even worse.? I called the vet this AM.? She suggested giving a baby
 aspirin, which I did before going to work.
 ?
 Tonight, she barely lifts her head and is mewing so pitifully.? She a
te some
 earlier in the day but won't eat tonight.? I called the vet again, and she
 had me give 1/8 of an antibiotic and we'll bring her in tomorrow morning
 first thing.? We've had other FeLV kitties neutered with no troubles, but
 I'm getting scared tonight.
 ?
 I just needed to share this tonight.? Any encouraging words or suggestions
 are greatly appreciated!
 ?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Laura is gone

2009-05-25 Thread catatonya
My condolencs on Laura.  I'm so sorry. :(
tonya

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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Laura is gone
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 9:50 AM


I'm so sorry, human Laura - may she find many guides at the bridge to help show 
her the way -

Gloria


On May 22, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Laura B wrote:

 One week ago today I had to let Laura go, she was losing the fight.  She had 
 been acting off for about a month, we took her to see my vet and her labs 
 were awful.  We tried a course of Pred, and did get a small rally, but at the 
 beginning of last week she started fading again, we could tell it was time.
 
 I miss her immensely, she was the sweetest girl, she would have been three on 
 June 2.  I really hate this disease, it robs our young kitties of life, and 
 there is no hope.
 
 Hug your kitties,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dixie

2009-05-17 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry for your loss.
tonya

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote:


From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:48 PM


I lost my wonderful Dixie Louise Doodle Katt after 3 years.  She came out of a 
pine thicket (country equivalent of street).  She was full grown and, until a 
few days before she left, I thought she had beaten it.  There were short/little 
problems but nothing that couldn't happen with the healthiest cat who had lived 
on her own for a while/forever.  I gave her my heart and I would not trade one 
second of time with her for anything.  Not even those awful last few minutes as 
she left this world beside me as I was driving her home from the vets'.  You 
know that you are not alone in your pain.  I doubt that is overly helpful at 
this minute but everyone who has been there knows how awful it is.  And you 
have been there so often and given so very much to these wonderful little 
ones.  Please let your heart heal and expand to include more of them.  
Street/pine thicket cats/kittens have such a hard time and, if they have any 
health problems they have
 little chance unless someone can put the pain on hold and love and care for 
them during the time they have.

May all the angels surround you.
On May 12, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Amy Dalgliesh wrote:

 My Zman lost his fight today.  He is my 6th in the past 9 months.  I know 
 that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't 
 help with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures.  .
 
 Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him.  He 
 quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and 
 holding paws through the carrier door at night.
 
 Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, 
 curling up at my neck during the night.  He loved to suckle earlobes and 
 would launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person 
 who happened by in order to attach himself to one.  I told him that he would 
 have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult catapulting himself 
 onto everyone.  Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 
 months old and less than 4 pounds at the end.
 
 We were holding paws when he left.
 
 It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said 
 many more times, but I hate this freaking disease.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed

2009-05-12 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry Amy.
tonya

--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Amy Dalgliesh ajdalgli...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Amy Dalgliesh ajdalgli...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 5:58 PM


My Zman lost his fight today.  He is my 6th in the past 9 months.  I know that 
it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't help 
with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures.  .
 
Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him.  He 
quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and holding 
paws through the carrier door at night.
 
Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, 
curling up at my neck during the night.  He loved to suckle earlobes and would 
launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person who 
happened by in order to attach himself to one.  I told him that he would have 
to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult catapulting himself onto 
everyone.  Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 months old 
and less than 4 pounds at the end.  
 
We were holding paws when he left.
 
It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said 
many more times, but I hate this freaking disease.


      
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[Felvtalk] charlotte

2009-05-11 Thread catatonya
I am so sorry to read of your loss.  :(
tonya


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS

2009-05-04 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry Sharyl.
tonya

--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 7:51 PM



My dear sweet little girl Houdini died today.  She was just 10 months old..  
Test positive twice but never had any symptoms.  For the last couple of days 
she meowed when I picked her up.  This little girl loved to be held and 
petted.  Since I have 8 house cats, I thought perhaps a bite or sprain but 
could find any evidence of an injury.   Yesterday she started breathing kind of 
heavy so today we headed to the vet, a 45 minute drive..  She stopped meowing a 
couple of miles away from the vet's office.  I thought she had finally gotten 
used to the ride.  Didn't know she was dead until I got into the vets office.

I'm still in shock.  Bright Eyes had failed over several weeks.  I just didn't 
think I wouldn't be coming home with her.  

She loved to sit on the desk beside the computer while I was on line.  When I 
sat down on the sofa she immediately got in my lap.  She just loved to be 
loved.  I will sorely miss her.  I am just grateful I was able to have her love 
for as long as I did.  I rescued her and her litter mates from a dumpster site 
when she was 4 weeks old.  She earned her name because she was the only one of 
the 4 that could escape from the crate I had them in.  

Please add her to the next CLS.
Sharyl Sissy Rocket CJ Mattie and all my Angels 


      

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Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :(

2009-04-24 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry Sherry.
tonya

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 8:47 PM


I know I have asked for prayers for this wonderful soul lately.Well today he 
lost his battle to this aweful disease.Pooty Poots was one of my special 
boyfriends.I know I have many and will have many more,but sometimes certain 
ones steal an extra space in your heart.This was one of them.Pluto was a shy 
handsome tiger boy.I won him over with Temptations treats and love.And he won 
me over with the trust he had in me.Rest in peace baby boy,you are now with 
your mom Juno and brother Jupiter.
Sherry


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than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Petey

2009-04-22 Thread catatonya
Kerry,
 
My internet has been down.  I'm so sorry to read about Petey.
tonya

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com wrote:


From: Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:44 PM


You're so right.
Thanks Lorrie.




From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:17:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey

I'm so sorry about Petey.  These losses are so hard on us,
and it never gets any easier no matter how many times we 
go thru it.  

Lorrie

 On 04-16, Kerry MacKenzie wrote: I just got the very sad news that
 Petey was put to sleep this morning. I want to thank everyone for
 their feedback and support yesterday.  Petey's mom is also the new
 mom of my former foster FeLV Daisy. I'll be (gently) encouraging
 her to join the list. I didn't know Petey was even ill until
 yesterday, and I think she and Petey would have benefited
 enormously from being part of this wonderful group. Good wishes as
 always to all of you and your furbabes. Kerry M.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] questions about how to handle an felv+/non-symptomatic cat

2009-04-19 Thread catatonya
He could fight the virus, or could just be a carrier.  If your other cats have 
been vaccinated I would not worry about it at all.
t

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cat
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:38 PM







can you guys tell me that there is a chance finley could still fight this 
virus? 



I can tell you that my guy came in as a stray 2 years ago weighing 10 lbs and 
being tested as positive.? he's in the house, he weighs 15.5 lbs and he's doing 
great.? He gets some runny eyes and sneezes but once I started lysine full time 
that has stopped.? I'm sure he'll be positive forever but that doesn't mean he 
won't have a good and I hope long life.? 

I'm new at the whole cat thing so this is a new experience for me.? But I just 
knew I couldn't have him put to sleep.

Sidney and the General



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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!

2009-04-01 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry to hear of your loss.  Most people on our list keep their positives 
and negatives together.  If your two negatives haven't tested positive after 
all this time, they are probably not going to.  I don't do boosters on my 
negative cats. I lost 2 negative cats in March due to different causes. My 
positive cat is one of my healthiest at at least 10 years old...
tonya

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From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: New to the list, would like some advice!
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 1:41 PM


From:    avia.rausc...@gmail.com
Subject: New to the list, would like some advice!

-
Hello!

I'll try to make the history brief but clear (not always easy 
for me), we adopted a kitten from ACC here in NYC in 
July 2007 to keep our cranky, one and a half year old, 
only cat Onyx company. The kitten (Cinder) was 9 weeks 
old and tested negative at adoption for FeLV. We  
added a third cat (Horus) from a rescue group that 
October (tested negative after adoption, the rescue group 
said he was negative, but there was no record of testing 
with his paperwork), and this past October added a tamed 
feral (Blackie) to the mix (kept separate from the other 
three until she was medically cleared and tested 
negative).

On January 12, 2009 our darling little Cinder was 
diagnosed with lymphoma after an extremely sudden 
decline (fine on Friday, heavy breathing, not 
eating/drinking, hiding under the bed Sunday night) at  
one year and eight months of age. I took her to the vet 
first thing Monday morning, and after xrays and an 
ultrasound found her chest so full of fluid she couldn't 
breathe and a massive tumor in her liver, we made the 
decision to let her go rather than tormenting her with  
treatment to make ourselves feel better. The postmortem 
tests revealed that Cinder had FeLV. We were in shock 
and couldn't believe how quickly she got sick!

Onyx is a three year old persian, Horus is a five year old 
mix (Siberian/Maine Coon?) and Blackie is a dsh. Onyx 
and Blackie have been the picture of health, Horus was 
diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago and is on 
Flovent twice a day.

After waiting the recommended two months, I had the 
other three tested this past Thursday. Horus and Blackie 
are negative, but Onyx came up positive. Yesterday, I had 
Horus  Blackie vaccinated, and the IFA test results for 
Onyx will be back in about a week. For now I have some 
questions that maybe some of you can answer:

1. My vet said no booster was necessary for the 
vaccinated cats, yet I see many references here to 30 day 
boosters - should I ask again or insist on the boosters?

2. The vet said to separate my kitties, but I can't stand the 
idea of locking Onyx up. From what I read, most of you 
seem to mix your positive and negative-vaccinated kitties, 
so am I being awful by not separating them? They say low 
stress environment, but Onyx likes to roam the apartment 
and it seems like it would be very stressful for her to be 
confined.

3. I feed my kitties Weruva canned and California Natural 
dry. I was thinking about supplementing with a vitamin like 
Nupro. Any suggestions in that department? Onyx is very 
picky, and it has been difficult to find foods that she will 
eat that don't upset her tummy.

I guess that's it for now, any advice anyone can give will 
be most appreciated!!

Avia
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

2009-03-10 Thread catatonya
Thank you Gloria.
t

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:09 AM


Tonya, I'm so sorry about Shaft - what a wonderful boy to have a loving mom 
like you to help him.  Sleep soft, Shaft -

Gloria


On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:45 AM, catatonya wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 I know I haven't been online much lately.  I've had 2 very sick (felv -) 
 kitties.  On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized.  He had 
 hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how 
 old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old.  My other sick 
 cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now.  It seems like my positive cat 
 (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol.  It just goes to show you what a 
 shame it is that people put down cats for being positive.
 
 I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to.  I know how you feel.  :(
 
 tonya
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

2009-03-10 Thread catatonya
Thank you, Wendy.
tonya

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From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:12 PM


Hi Tonya,

I'm sorry to hear about Shaft, and your other sick kitty.  Shaft lived a long 
time!!!  He was a lucky kitty to have had you!  :)

Prayers going out for your comfort,
Take care,
Wendy
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From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:45:15 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

Hello Everyone,
 
I know I haven't been online much lately.  I've had 2 very sick (felv -) 
kitties.  On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized.  He had 
hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how 
old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old.  My other sick 
cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now.  It seems like my positive cat 
(knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol.  It just goes to show you what a 
shame it is that people put down cats for being positive.
 
I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to.  I know how you feel.  :(
 
tonya


      
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[Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

2009-03-08 Thread catatonya
Hello Everyone,
 
I know I haven't been online much lately.  I've had 2 very sick (felv -) 
kitties.  On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized.  He had 
hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how 
old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old.  My other sick 
cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now.  It seems like my positive cat 
(knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol.  It just goes to show you what a 
shame it is that people put down cats for being positive.
 
I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to.  I know how you feel.  :(
 
tonya


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

2009-03-08 Thread catatonya
Thanks Sharyl.
t

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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 2:02 PM



Tonya, wishing Shaft a safe journey to the Rainbow Bridge.  He is now pain 
free.  All our Angels are there to greet him.  I have a CRF kitty too..  Know 
how challenging that can be.  Like you my positive kitties are my healthiest.
Sharyl  


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 11:45 AM
 Hello Everyone,
  
 I know I haven't been online much lately.  I've
 had 2 very sick (felv -) kitties.  On Tuesday I had to have
 my big boy Shaft euthanized.  He had hyperthyroid,
 lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't
 know how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but
 he was old.  My other sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his
 crf for now.  It seems like my positive cat (knock on wood)
 is my healthiest cat. lol.  It just goes to show you what a
 shame it is that people put down cats for being positive.
  
 I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to.  I
 know how you feel.  :(
  
 tonya
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

2009-03-08 Thread catatonya
thanks, sue.
tonya

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From: Frank and Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 7:39 PM


Tonya,
I'm sorry to hear about Shaft.  It sounds like he was a lucky kitty that you 
had 15 years together, you must miss him so much.
Gentle bridge vibes to him and comfort to you.
Sue
- Original Message - From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft


Hello Everyone,

I know I haven't been online much lately. I've had 2 very sick (felv -) 
kitties. On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized. He had 
hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how 
old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old. My other sick 
cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now. It seems like my positive cat 
(knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol. It just goes to show you what a 
shame it is that people put down cats for being positive.

I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to. I know how you feel. :(

tonya



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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

2009-03-08 Thread catatonya
Thank you Sherry.
tonya

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:35 PM


Tonya I am so sorry you lost your sweet Shaft.He was lucky to have you for all 
those years. Hugs to you.
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 11:45 AM

Hello Everyone,
 
I know I haven't been online much lately.  I've had 2 very sick (felv
-) kitties.  On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized.  He had
hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know
how old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old.  My other
sick cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now.  It seems like my positive
cat (knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol.  It just goes to show you what a
shame it is that people put down cats for being positive.
 
I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to.  I know how you
feel.  :(
 
tonya


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :(

2009-02-15 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry Sherry!
tonya

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From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 5:38 PM

Well we lost our Jazzman today,I knew last night that it would be the last time
I saw him so I told him that I loved him at least 100 times.Just so he heard it
at least one last time before he passed.I was hoping the prayers would have
helped.They have helped Oscar so far,he seems to be feeling much better.Also
could you keep our Flanagan in your prayers too he is not feeling well.It has
been a sad couple of weeks in our rescues.We lost a Crash cat too this week. :(
Thanks
Sherry


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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :(

2009-02-14 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry, Sherry.
t

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From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 8:34 PM

We lost another one of our special Sids kids yesterday.Valentino was a BIG sweet
loverboy who ALWAYS had a purr for us (and happy farts).He ended up blind about
a month ago and was doing pretty good,but the virus took over and he just could
not take anymore. May he enjoy all the kitty treats he can now.
Sherry


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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Survey

2009-02-08 Thread catatonya


 
 
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE?   CC was positive as a kitten.  
she was found in a parking lot, so I have no idea.
 DD was positive when I got her at about 2 years of age.
WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ CC got very sick at about 8 months and almost 
died. We used interferon, immunoregulin, she eye herpes and medicines for that 
and saw a homeopath.DD has never been sick but once and was put on antibiotics. 
 I give her no special treatments. WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD,  all 
indoors
 
 ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? Yes, up to 10 at a time. there has been no 
 contamination of my negatives.
 
CC lived until about 8 years old, and died of herpes.  CC is still fine at 
around 10 years old.t__
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about prednisone

2009-02-05 Thread catatonya
I think no news means good news on this list. lol.
 
I have a question.  I have a cat that is negative, but hyperthyroid, and other 
health problems.  The doctor put him on prednisone and everyone on my hyper 
thyroid list said NOT to use prednisone but to use prednisolone instead.  Any 
thoughts?
tonya

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From: nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 11:05 AM

Taz and I are still here.  I look forward to this talk.  I'm
glad there is so much good input and caring from people for the positives.  I
wish more would be educated.
Nancy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about prednisone

2009-02-05 Thread catatonya
thank you!

--- On Thu, 2/5/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about prednisone
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:31 PM

Tonya, your hyper t list is right.  Prednisolone is preferred for cats.  Here is
a link for with info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/prednisone.html
Prednisone is activated by the patient's liver into
Prednisolone

Since cats have to convert the prednisone into prednisolone you are better off
starting out with prednisolone.  
Sharyl


--- On Thu, 2/5/09, catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list and question about
prednisone
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 6:44 PM
 I think no news means good news on this list. lol.
  
 I have a question.  I have a cat that is negative, but
 hyperthyroid, and other health problems.  The doctor put
 him on prednisone and everyone on my hyper thyroid list said
 NOT to use prednisone but to use prednisolone instead.  Any
 thoughts?
 tonya
 
 --- On Thu, 2/5/09, nancy denison
 nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote:
 
 From: nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 11:05 AM
 
 Taz and I are still here.  I look forward to this
 talk.  I'm
 glad there is so much good input and caring from people for
 the positives.  I
 wish more would be educated.
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge

2009-01-29 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry to hear of the loss of your mother.  She sounds like a wonderful 
woman.
  take care of yourself.
  tonya

tatorb...@aol.com wrote:
  
Hello everyone,
I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me feel 
little better. 
To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to prior emails.
Another email was sent to all the rescues groups of the same wording.

Many of you have ask about my mother and sent many prayers by emails, phone 
calls, also in person to my mother and myself.
With great sadness in my heart today my mother passed away this morning. 
As she wished she wants to be cremated and be buried with my father.
I spent many hours with her the last few days only home long enough to feed 
and do litter boxes.

She was an avid animal lover especially when it came to cats and kittens.
She was a reputable breeder from the 60's to early 80's.
Her breed was Siamese and Persian cats.
In the last 20 years she chose to take homeless and rescue kitties into her 
home.
They were given very much needed love and care.
When she would come to visit me as she was in a convalescent home during the 
last year she would get her kitty fixes by coming to my home.
She would call all of the rescue cats and kittens to her along with my 
personal kitties. So she could be around them all and give them plenty of love. 
She took such pleasure in this. She would spoil them greatly.
Even feeding them such as turkey, chicken, and beef when she could get away 
with it.

Her services will be at a later date.
I will let you all know.
My brother is putting article in the local newspaper about her within the 
next day or two.

Thanks again for all your support in the past and present regarding my 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu :-)

2009-01-26 Thread catatonya
Congratulations on your new family member!
  tonya

Emily Hunter emilyofw...@aol.com wrote:
  
After our Denzel died, I wasn't sure that I wanted to stay subscribed 
to the list since he was our only positive. I decided to stay on 
because I felt like another positive would come into our lives. Well, 
I'm a spiritual person, and it really seemed like at least a nudge 
from God when Kelley was writing about Tofu in Austin which, by Texas 
standards, is pretty close to where I live. Anyway, last Thursday this 
beautiful little girl came home with me :-)

We're still in the adjustment period, but so far she and the other 
kitties are cautiously getting to know each other. (One of our others 
is about the same age as Tofu and they've had some fun chasing each 
other.) We should be having a wellness visit with the vet soon, to 
decide what kind of preventive treatment to start her on; unlike 
Denzel, who was pretty symptomatic his whole life, she doesn't seem 
sick at all. So a question for those who have dealt with a combo 
positive - is there anything special I need to be looking out for with 
the added FIV? From
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Re: [Felvtalk] Anemia AZT

2009-01-23 Thread catatonya
Do you think AZT could be used for cats with the herpes virus?
  tonya

jb...@tds.net wrote:
  Graca,

Hello. I responded to your email earlier but had some problems with my email 
and am not sure if you received it. This is basically what I said. If you get 
two emails for this sorry.

AZT is an antiviral used in human medicine to treat HIV. It is generally used 
in combination with other antivirals. Unfortunately, these combinations of 
antivirals have not been found to be effective against felv in cats. At least 
there are no good studies to support that.

AZT is often not used or stopped in people because it often causes anemia and 
bone marrow toxicity. This is a very widely known side effect of AZT. For this 
reason, I would listen to the vet that suggests stopping the AZT.

Since anemia can be a common symptom of felv and your cat is experiencing it. 
It is either because of progression of the felv disease or a side effect of the 
drugs. If it is the drug, stop giving it and the anemia should improve (this 
can be monitored by looking at the blood for reticulocytes - which are like 
baby red blood cells and indicate that the bone marrow is trying to fix the 
anemia - this is a good sign). If it is the felv disease progressing than the 
AZT is not really helping you anyway and there isn't much reason to continue 
giving it.

If you want to continue to treat the felv virus, there is a lot of buzz about 
something called Imulan. It is the first FDA approved drug for the treatment of 
felv/fiv in the United States. You may want to ask your vet about this 
possibility. It may be beneficial to stop your current meds and try this. I 
don't know. It would be trial and error. Keep in mind that anemia and bone 
marrow suppression in a felv positive cat is a poor prognostic sign.

In general, if it were me, I would stop the AZT and watch for improvement of 
the anemia. I may add Imulan (I have no experience with this drug yet), would 
consider a blood transfusion, from an immunized cat, if the anemia is 
significant enough and transfer factor if there is GI upset.

Hope this helps.

Jenny 
 Graca Azevedo wrote: 
 
Dear All,
 
I was so upset with my sick cat that I did not introduce myself as new to list 
a few days ago.  I do apologize.  I am writing from Brazil, have two rescued 
cats.  One of them is Felv+.  He has been treated on AZT and interferon for 2 
years and half. The virus reached his bone marrow and he has anemia.  Two vets 
have examined him.  One said that I should stop with the AZT and the other 
advised to continue.  I failed to find on the mail archives any report on cats 
being treated with AZT.
I would be most grateful to hear what any of you have to say.
 
Regards,

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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-23 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry, Jennifer.
  tonya

James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net wrote:
  --- Forwarded message follows ---
From: Jennifer Dykhouse 

To: 
Subject: Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
Date sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500


Hello everyone,

I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion 
helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to 
reach that decision, you can see my example.

The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's 
hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest 
you can be and still be healthy). He was extremely 
lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a 
month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was 
starting to catch a respiratory bug.

Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and 
took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17. That's 
great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to 
a healthy level, not just a slightly better level. He had 
perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he 
still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles. 

What I am most upset with was the lack of information 
from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the 
blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound 
like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work 
for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were 
handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told 
me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that 
it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes 
me feel like money is more important then informing the 
owner.

I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the 
fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to 
the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of 
the day and since the transfusion may only give him days, 
I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks. So 
right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is 
get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as 
much as we can.

Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just 
wanted to tell my story.

Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to List

2009-01-19 Thread catatonya
Susan,
   
  I didn't want to answer because your case sounds problematic.  Once you get 
to transfusions you are in deep water.  I hope someone with more experience 
chimes in.
  tonya

jb...@tds.net wrote:
  Hey Susan,

It is a tough choice. In my experience when felv positive cats start with bone 
marrow suppression (low RBC,WBC and platelet counts) things progress downhill 
fairly rapidly. Not always, but often. This is only from my experience. I have 
given the transfusions, and they are life saving - for awhile. The first 
transfusion is kind of a free bee in that there generally isn't a tranfusion 
reaction (potentially deadly reaction with transfusions). Subsequent 
tranfusions are more risky. It boosts the numbers transiently, but inevitably 
you end up low again. I have read that if you have the option and decide to 
transfuse, use the blood of a cat that has been vaccinated for felv as it can 
transfer some immune response to the virus in the recipient cat. This may 
temporaily help. 

I am still looking for a good antiviral against felv, but as of yet they are 
only stories. Some people suggest interferon, some imulan, some Carrisyn 
(Acemannan). I haven't heard overwhelming support of any one of them in 
particular, personally. 

So in the end, you are treating the symptoms not the disease. You will 
certainly help the situation now with a transfusion, but you will find yourself 
facing this situation again. I do not mean to be negative I just want to tell 
you what I have experienced. I am still investigating the virus and will let 
you know if I hear of even a whisper of success on treatment.

Alternatively, there are some holistic drugs that are thought to help boost the 
immune system and reverse anemia. If you are interested I can send some more 
specific information. I personally have not found them exceptionally effective. 
Good luck

Jenny
 Susan Tillman wrote: 
 Hello Folks,
 
 I was on the list for a while several years ago when my kitty Shane was
 first diagnosed as FeLV positive and then I dropped off due to time
 constraints (and because he was doing so well). For the past four years I
 have been treating him for ocular herpes, and then this past summer he was
 diagnosed with the additional eye disease, eosinophilic keratitis. He has
 been under the care of an eye specialist and those conditions are currently
 completely controlled by medications. He also has issues with his teeth and
 gums (he had a dental two years ago but things are pretty inflamed again). I
 have been monitoring his lab work every six months and everything had been
 looking pretty good for the most part. His neutrophil count was a little low
 about a year ago and when we checked it again last summer, it had actually
 rebounded a bit. There was no anemia at that time. However, I took him in
 for his routine lab work last week and he is now very anemic and his
 neutrophils have dropped well into the danger zone. My vet feels that he
 will soon reach a point where he will require a transfusion in order to
 live. He looks very good--his weight is excellent, he is eating (though he
 is a little pickier than usual), and he still does mad dashes around the
 house. I am very torn about the transfusion issue. This guy really stresses
 out over vet visits and procedures. If we were transfusing in order to buy
 enough time for some super cure to kick in, I wouldn't hesitate, but under
 the circumstances, I just don't know. I'm sure many of you have been in the
 position of having to make such a decision and I guess I'd just like to hear
 from some folks who have done transfusions (or decided against them). My vet
 says the effects of the transfusion would most likely last about a month. By
 the way, he was tested for hemobartonella several years ago (negative). My
 vet is retesting for it via PCR, but thinks it is highly unlikely and that
 the anemia is simply a progression of the FeLV.
 
 I look forward to hearing your experiences.
 
 Sue T. 
 Shane - Manx mix, approximately 5-7 years old, diagnosed as FeLV+ 12-06
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Bright Eyes to the CLS

2009-01-18 Thread catatonya
Sharyl,
   
  I'm sorry for your loss.
  take care,
  tonya

Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:
  My sweet little Bright Eyes died this afternoon. He was just 7 months old and 
had been healthy until a few weeks ago. Nothing I did seem to help. He just 
faded away. 

He was one of a litter of four FeLV+ babies I rescued last July. He was the big 
boy. Always 1st to the food and 1st for loving. If someone else was in my lap 
he would climb on top of them for his loving. I've spent these last few days 
just holding and loving him. 

The other three seem perfectly healthy. No idea why this disease took him and 
hasn't affected the others yet. All four were on the same diet ad supplements. 

He is now happy and healthy playing in those green meadows with all the other 
angels.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS

2009-01-17 Thread catatonya
Sally,
   
  I'm so sorry, but at least Baby Girl didn't die on the street from starvation 
or pneumonia.
  take care,
  tonya

Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:
  Please add sweet Baby Girl to the CLS if possible she was not positive but
had 7 good years as a Feral cat next to where I work.

Here is what happened:


Yesterday I noticed the cat at work (a TNR feral) named Baby Girl was not
feeling good. She has had a URI on and off, but never seemed affected by
her. This time she was not eating and even allowed me to touch her. Normally
she would have swatted me. We discussed taking her to the ER but we did not
have a way to catch her or anything to put her in and it was closing. Today
before I even got to work Pat, who is really Baby Girls momma with the help
of another girl caught her. She had not eaten any food left for her
yesterday. So Angel first went to a vet that is one street over from us.
They could not see her gave names of other vets. I already decided to call
my vet who is also close. She could not be seen until 3:30 first . She was
in distress and I had noticed she was cold to the touch although she was
kept by a heater all day.

I drive her to Junior's vet. Since she is feral I also notified the guy,
Phil who looks after her colony. She is only one of 3 or 4 cats that hang
out next to us. He said they would probably test her for FELV in fact he
wanted her tested. They vet had a hard time getting blood she was so wek she
did not fight. Her temp was 94. The vet though she would test positive but
she was negative for FELV and FIV. She had pnuemonia and was now coughing
blood and she was shutting down. The vet was sure she was dying
and euthanized her. Of course it was a heart stick and I decided I did not
need to watch. It was over before I even was out of the room. The test came
back after she was pts. I called Phil to let him know. He will adopt out any
who are adoptable and has kept many cats himself.

Anyway I will miss Baby Girl. She was just getting freindly after 6 years
and would rub up against all that she used to run away from. The vet was
so kind she is going to bury her in her yard . She is now an Angel.


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Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my
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Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan message-mailto:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d750ff92...@mail.gmail.com

2009-01-17 Thread catatonya
have you ruled out hemobart? maybe you should have the kitten on doxy.  but I 
know doxy isn't recommended for kittens under a certain age
  tonya

nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote:
  Hi Lisa,
I'm currently using Imulan on my FeLV kitten. She was very very sick before it 
came in. She was anemic and her blood caounts were low. Since the Imulan she is 
back to her old goofy self. She's not anemic but her blood counts still 
continue to fall. That bothers me. The vets aren't quite sure why. She is 
eating well and playful and no sign of illness, no temperature, but I'm giving 
her an antibiotic to try and help fight whatever is destroying here blood 
counts. I would recommend the Imulan and I will continue the treatments as long 
as she is benefitting. So far the manufacturer doesn't have any info with 
regard to old or very young cats but they say that 2 of the test cats have been 
tested negative via bone marrow tests after this treatment. I'm hoping my 
little girl cat, Taz, will start producing the right blood cells she needs. Her 
is are a couple of websites that may help.
http://www.imulan.com/felv-fiv-treatment.html

http://fabulousfelinesandfidos.yuku.com/reply/39095/t/-Treatment--Feline-Leukemia--Feline-Aids-FeLV--FIV-.html

hope this helps,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Tommy

2009-01-11 Thread catatonya
That's great news Lisa!
   
  I'm dealing with 3 cats that are very ill, and they are all my negatives. 
(Knock on wood.)  My positive is fat and sassy and doing fine.  She's 
especially enjoying all the treats I've been using trying to get my 3 sick ones 
to eat and take med.s. lol.
  tonya

Lisa Borden tuckerandtes...@zoominternet.net wrote:
  
My FeLV+ kitten, Tommy, continues to do wonderfully! He is active
and playful, and has a tremendous appetite. He will be neutered on
January 29th - his holistic vet said to continue to give him the DMG
to help his immune system with the stress of surgery. She also gave
him a probiotic to help his bowels when he is on an antibiotic. 

This is so much different from what I thought it would be like to
have an FeLV kitten! I understand we are very lucky, and for that I
am grateful. His holistic vet says that after the surgery, once he is
stress free again, we can retest him for FeLV. 

Lisa
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Re: [Felvtalk] Re Update on Tommy

2009-01-11 Thread catatonya
No.  They are retested everytime they get sick and are always negative.  My 
cats are just old.  One has crf, the other hyperthyroid, and the other herpes.  
They have all tested negative to rule that out.  I've had many cats come and go 
(from things other than felv).  I've never had one get felv from one of my 
positives.  I guess I'm going on toward 15 years by now.
  tonya

Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:
  Hi Tonya, Do you think your negatives could have turned positive? I
worry all the time about my 9 month old kitten who was negative when
I brought him home, because he was exposed to his litter mates and 4
of them have already died from FelV. So far he is doing well, but I
still worry. What is wrong with your three?

Lorrie

On 01-11, catatonya wrote:
 
 I'm dealing with 3 cats that are very ill, and they are all my
 negatives. (Knock on wood.) My positive is fat and sassy and
 doing fine. She's especially enjoying all the treats I've been
 using trying to get my 3 sick ones to eat and take med.s. lol.
 tonya
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Murdoch Please add him to the CLS :(

2009-01-04 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry Sherry.
  tonya

Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Well I'm sure you all remember me asking for prayes for this sweet guy.He 
quickly went down hill and Dr. Jen had to let him go tonight.He was a rough 
looking orange fluffy guy with a crumpled ear.But the cutest little face to 
love.
Also could you say a little prayer for Stryker? He is at the clinic and not 
doing so well.Thank you all for being here.
Sherry
 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] General ~ tysons canned chicken breast nutrition facts

2008-12-30 Thread catatonya
It sounds safe to me.  :)
  t

souther...@aol.com wrote:
  It's ok, I'm not going to give it to him anymore. Sorry guys, I didn't mean 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV kittens

2008-12-29 Thread catatonya
Lorrie,
  I'm sorry for your losses. Kittens with felv have the least chances of making 
it.  Once they get over a year or two their chances greatly improve.  I'm so 
sorry.
  tonya

Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:
  I wrote two weeks or so ago about a very sick FelV kitten who was
anemic and had lost control of her back legs, and her bladder. We
took her to the vet and he felt she was in the last stages of FelV,
with little or no hope for recovery. She was 9 months old and only
weighed 3 and a half pounds. Sadly she soon went to the rainbow
bridge. Then yesterday we found another of her litter mates dead
with absolutely no apparent sickness. This kitten was eating,
playing and acted fine, but suddenly died. We've so far lost 
4 kittens from this litter of FelV pos. kittens, and it's heart
breaking. Has anyone else found kittens who look fine, eat well
and play and then suddenly die? I don't think this is a symptom
of FelV, and I'm wondering if this last kitten we found dead 
yesterday had a genetic heart problem or something else unrelated
to FelV. Any ideas? 

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] General didn't eat breakfast

2008-12-22 Thread catatonya
Maybe try to tempt him with a treat of some sort?  I don't know.  You're in my 
thoughts.  I remember when I got my first cat and didn't know anything about 
them.  It takes a while.  I hope someone has more advice for you.
  tonya

souther...@aol.com wrote:
  Do I need to be worried? He seemed fine this morning, but he didn't eat. 
He's spent the day in the living room, but not curled on the heat vent like he 
has done in the past. When he's been feeling bad before he curls up on the 
heat vent. He's not been very social today but he isn't doing that. 

How do I tell if he's really in pain? Or sick? Remember I've never had a 
cat before. His vet thinks that he may have had a touch of pancreatitis over 
the last couple of weeks. Dogs I know. Cats are a mystery. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] felv pos, neg and 2 alpha females

2008-12-21 Thread catatonya
They're expensive, but high cat trees make the vulnerable cats feel more safe.  
I've been there.  Right now we're at an almost neutral mix ugh.
  tonya

dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  i have 1 pos (Annie who is an alpha type), Homey wo is felv neg, and 2 new 
girls Homey 2 and Casey who are both neg. big problem is that Casey is also an 
alpha so Annie is now experiencing some of the bullying that she has been 
visiting on Homey. Homey is now #3 in pecking order and poor Homey 2 is at the 
bottom of the order. she is so terrified that she runs when she hears any noise 
and spends most of her time hidden under the bed, behind the computer desk or 
in some unknown hiding place i haven't found yet. i am afraid that the 
additional stress will hurt Annie (pos) and leave both Homeys a basket case. 
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS? Annie is now on the run from Casey and only feels 
secure on my lap. Homey only feels safe on my lap. i spend a lot of time 
sitting and being a security blanket. little Homey 2 doesn't feel safe anywhere.
also, Casey and Homey 2 came from 1 yr in shelter where apparently boxes were 
not cleaned too often and Casey has developed a bad habit of kicking all soiled 
litter out of box and then using the box. any ideas on this subject? dorlis

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[Felvtalk] ot-cdiff

2008-12-13 Thread catatonya
evidently this is a new bug that is very contagious.  It is common in nursing 
homes and hospitals.  :(
  tonya

dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  yes it is. story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall. went to 
hospital for x-ray. no broken bones, but contracted c. diff and died. article 
was in aarp bulletin for november 2008. if someone will tell me how to copy 
article and attach to email, will do. dorlis
 catatonya wrote: 
 what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in August. 
 Evidently it's highly contagious.
 tonya
 
 dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill 
 it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make 
 sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and 
 water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can 
 get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis
  Pat Kachur wrote: 
  If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of germ 
  killer before you come in the house.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa Borden 
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
  
  
  

   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy

2008-12-10 Thread catatonya
what is the germ?  is it c-diff?  My grandmother died from that in August.  
Evidently it's highly contagious.
  tonya

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill 
it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make 
sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and 
water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get 
sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis
 Pat Kachur wrote: 
 If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of germ 
 killer before you come in the house.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lisa Borden 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
 
 
 
 
  I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come
  in contact with human bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to
  think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my
  clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk
  for them.
 
  They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so
  funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with.
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Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we still have one?)

2008-12-07 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry Gloria.  :(
  tonya

Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2, 
2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list. He was a 
double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the 
Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue. I've fostered him 
since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat. But he 
developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with 
that ever since. He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of 
days.

He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had 
other things going on, I'm not sure.

B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge 
early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties

2008-12-01 Thread catatonya
Welcome to the group.  I'm sorry for your loss, but thank you for taking in 
positive cats. Unfortunately with this disease you just never know when or if 
they are ever going to get sick from the felv.  I have a 10 year old positive 
here with me as I type right now.  My first positive died around 8 years old.  
Others have lived lives into the high teens.  The bad thing about it is that 
when it hits, it can hit fast, as you have discovered.  I don't know about the 
new med.s.  My cat is asymptomatic, so I don't give her any medicines, 
additives, etc just a good diet and a stress free (as possible) 
environment.  My girl DD was left at my vet's office and my vet talked me into 
taking her because I already had a positive cat.  Vet's call dropped off 
animals door dumps  and I named her DD because my first positive cat was CC 
(because I found her living behind a coke machine).   DD RULES my house.  Your 
positive cat could have many years ahead of her.  I hope you'll consider
 taking in another positive.  :)
  thank you!
  tonya

Amber Gilewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Hello everyone,

I am new to this listserv, but wanted to thank all of you in advance
for your insights and kindness! I recently adopted 2 FeLV positive
cats, Neo and Parker (1 in April and 1 in September). I knew their
lives would be cut short by the illness, but wanted to give them a
happy, comfortable life before they left this world. 



Some friends and family members have given us grief over purposely
adopting these sick kitties. I've heard things to the effect of You'll
be sad when they die to You're keeping a healthy cat from having a
home. But I didn't (and still don't care) what the naysayers have to
say. I know that I'm doing a good service to these cats that otherwise
would be euthanized before they needed to be or would be without a
loving home. Someone (who was in my corner) told me that she worked at
a shelter once and no one would even play with the FeLV cats, let alone
adopt them. This solidified my belief for the need of loving homes of
these forgotten felines! Their happiness is more important than my
sadness, as profound as it may be. 



I'm saddened to report that baby Parker (who we got more recently in
September) died on November 8th. It was a sad death as he suddenly
collapsed and died a couple of hours later in our home. It was late at
night and the emergency vet closest to us was in surgery. Other vet
services were an hour or more away. We saw him take his last few
breaths and wanted to end his suffering sooner (but couldn't). But he
died knowing (hopefully) that he was loved and that he didn't die
alone. He was the sweetest cat ever! :(



Our other cat, Neo is doing great! He's not showing any symptoms, has
put on weight since we got him, and has a strong appetite! I recently
read about LTIC/Imulan and told my vet about it. He didn't know too
much about it as it's a newer medication, but I asked him to order some
for Neo. It's quite expensive, but if I would have known about it
sooner I would have tried it on little baby Parker to help him. Since
Neo is quite healthy, I'm not sure what effect it will have on him, but
I'd do anything to keep him as healthy as we can for as long as we can.
I'd be most pleased if anyone tries this with their cat and could tell
me how it works out. Also, did your cat have any symptoms before or
were they asymptomatic before starting treatment?



Thanks for reading and for all that you do for your beloved cats!

Amber





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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone

2008-11-30 Thread catatonya
Sue,
   
  I'm so sorry to hear about Buzz.
  take care,
  tonya

Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Today I had to have my sweet little kitty Buzz PTS. I feel like a very large 
piece of me is missing.

The first time I saw Buzz I fell in love with him. He was terrified, cowering 
between two up-ended mattresses in an unused bedroom at my brothers' house. He 
had been abused by neighborhood boys in an urban area where my brother used to 
live. When my sister in law, Lee, rescued him he was very sick, full of 
parasites, starving and near death. She and my brother nursed him back to 
physical health but he was still terrified of people. They named him Buzz Saw 
because of the way his claws flew whenever anyone got near him. That day Lee 
caught him in a blanket and handed him to me. I sat with him and gently pet him 
and talked to him. Within about 20 minutes he was purring. Before we left that 
day he reached up to me and touched noses.

After about a week I talked my husband into keeping him. When I brought him 
home I put him into our study so he had a smaller space to get used to, and to 
keep him separate from the other cats. When I took him to the vet a few days 
later his feline leukemia test came back positive. Buzz was going to live in 
the study for quite a while so I filled it with cat toys and a cat tree and 
pretty much spoiled him as much as much as I could. Every evening I would spend 
hours with him. I was working on a computer project and he kept me company with 
that. That is how it was from January of '07 to April. At that point it was 
clear that keeping him separate was not working. We vaccinated the other cats 
for feline leukemia and released Buzzy into the rest of the house. He loved his 
new freedom and became every ones quiet little shadow. He loved to watch what 
was going on. His favorite place was a window bench that looks out on the bird 
feeder. At night he either slept on a ledge right
 behind my head or cuddled up next to me, purring. When July came I noticed 
that he seemed to have no energy and was not eating. When we took him to the 
vet the diagnosis was anemia. With heavy doses of prednesolone his health and 
red blood count began to come back. I was so happy watching my sweet boy 
gaining back his energy and appetite. While he was recuperating I would take 
him out to sit on the deck on my lap. He loved sniffing the outdoor smells and 
feeling the warm sunshine on his fur. He would sit and purr out there for as 
long as I could sit and hold him. In the evenings Buzzy loved to chase DaBird 
and the laser pointer. His blood was being tested every couple of weeks and 
soon it was in the normal range. We began to back off on the prednesolone. For 
several weeks everything was going well until the week that his blood count 
started going the wrong direction. I prayed that it was just the one time but 
unfortunately not. That horrible disease was in his bone marrow
 and the medication was no longer helping. For the last several weeks I watched 
as he became more and more lethargic. We offered him every special treat we 
could think of to keep him eating and he would nibble on those tidbits almost 
to the end. He would sit all day on his window seat and for the last week we 
carried him to the litter box. He always watched every move I made as I moved 
around the kitchen. Today when he just put his head down in exhaustion instead 
of watching, I knew it was time to say goodbye to my darling boy. When I took 
him to the vet I told him how much I have loved him and asked him to meet me at 
the bridge. Then he went to sleep in my arms. I will miss him so very much, but 
now he is in a place where there is no feline leukemia.

Sue


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Re: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed

2008-11-30 Thread catatonya
I know this is late, but I would get her to a vet to check for uti, kidney 
problems, etc if there's blood.  amoxy could cause her appetite to go down, 
but I would bet it's the pain med.  My cats that had extractions were only 
given pain med.s after surgery and were fine without it.  My vet said that they 
probably hurt less after the surgery due to the pain their teeth and infection 
had been causing
  hope this helps.
  tonya

Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The vet dentist had never seen blood in the urine after coming to - and he's 
been doing this for 20+ years. He really specializes in just dental work so he 
asked another vet on call and they thought perhaps she might have a UTI or 
perhaps she has or had a stone which passed thus why there was a little blood. 
He said it wasn't a lot but it concerned him because he'd never seen it before. 
A lot or a little is concern for me.
She was already going to be on Amoxy so he said to just keep an eye on her for 
the next couple days. She's also on buprenex for pain and she was on Medicam 
for inflammation (which after reading up on the Medicam I wish I hadn't give 
her the 2 doses I did) I wonder if the buprenex and/or amoxy are causing her to 
lose her appetite as well. She must be in some discomfort, I know I would be.

I tried a/d yesterday and she only licked twice and was done. This morning, 
after trying 4 different flavors, someone suggested syringe feeding her. So I 
mixed some of the a/d with water and gave her some that way - she didn't even 
fight with me about doing it. I didn't give her a lot since I didn't really 
know how much would be too much/too little. A few hours later I pureed some 
Sheba mixed with water - she was watching me do it so I put a bowl with some of 
that down and she ate 1-2 tablespoons of that. I'm just happy she ate 
something. Now if I can just get her to drink some water but I figured if I 
keep mixing whatever food I give her with water, hopefully, that will be enough 
to keep her hydrated. Thank you for asking what KMR was, I didn't know either 
but think I might give that a try as well. A few people now have suggested the 
juice from tuna so I'll probably pick some of that up tomorrow and give that  
try too.  It's just horrible when they
don't want to eat. I go back to work tomorrow so she'll be on her own all day. 
I plan on leaving at least a few bowls of wet food for her and hopefully she'll 
have eaten something when I get home.
Thanks for all your suggestions, I really appreciate it.
Dawn



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Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?

2008-11-26 Thread catatonya
I'm way behind on email.  I hope the diarrea is over?
  tonya

Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

No, Tonya ... he has no symptoms except for the diarrhea. I took him
to a holistic vet yesterday who started him on some homeopathic
antivirals and DMG. They are also eating a high protein food - 46% -
I know there are higher ones out there but my adult cats are VERY
picky and they all like this one that we have chosen. I really like
the holistic vet. She told me to keep his vaccinations to a minimum
so as to not stress his immune system, and don't vaccinate him for
rabies. And to go ahead and have him neutered when he's 6 months old.


He's such an adorable, loving, playful, happy kitten! And to think I
could have sent him to the bridge unnecessarily. :(
On Wed 19/11/08 5:23 AM , catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
He has already exposed your other cats. they are adults and
vaccinated. there is like a 1% chance they are going to get the felv
from this kitten. Wait about 3 months and retest your kitten and you
may find he is negative after all. cats test positive when they have
been recently exposed. once time has passed they sometimes retest
negative. Keep the faith! Your little one may still fight this off.
Do you see any symptoms besides the diarrhea (which lots of kittens
have!) I also would start shopping around for a more educated vet.
take care,
tonya
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Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?

2008-11-19 Thread catatonya
He has already exposed your other cats.  they are adults and vaccinated.  there 
is like a 1% chance they are going to get the felv from this kitten.  Wait 
about 3 months and retest your kitten and you may find he is negative after 
all.  cats test positive when they have been recently exposed.  once time has 
passed they sometimes retest negative.  Keep the faith!  Your little one may 
still fight this off.  Do you see any symptoms besides the diarrhea (which lots 
of kittens have!)  I also would start shopping around for a more educated vet.
  take care,
  tonya

Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should
keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and
isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out
even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of
the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my
other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have
been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy
is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned
about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of
health, and I intend to keep it that way. 

Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right
thing. 

Lisa
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Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?

2008-11-19 Thread catatonya
I am one who mixes, and I take NO precautions except that I keep my negatives 
vaccinated.
  tonya

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Lisa, I don't think any of us can tell you what is the right thing to do.  I 
rescued 2 dumpster kittens early this year.  Both were kept in the garage until 
vetted.  Both tested positive.  Then I rescued a 3rd kitten from the colony.  
She tested negative.  I kept Sissy and Rocket in the garage until I was able to 
give Stormie all her shots including the FeLV vaccine and booster.   I got my 
other 2 indoor kitties current on their FeLV  vaccine.  
 
Since it was getting hot here I moved Sissy and Rocket into my 
bathroom/bedroom.  They are both asymptomatic.  I eventually introduced them to 
my other 3 indoor kitties.  So far no problems.  
 
I know others on this list have always mixed their kitties while some have 
never mixed them.  Each of us has to make the decision on what is best for 
their kitties.
 
By the way I now have 4 positive dumpster kittens in the garage that I rescued 
this fall.  Mattie is blind, CJ only has sight in one eye and the other 2 seem 
fine.  They were 4 weeks old when I found them.  Just couldn't leave them there 
to die.  I have added a 6' x 12' chicken wire enclosure to the garage.  So far 
they are doing fine.  5 cats in the cottage is all I have room for.  I'm still 
hoping to find a forever home for Bright Eyes and Houdini.
Sharyl
 

--- On Sat, 11/15/08, Lisa Borden wrote:

From: Lisa Borden 
Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 8:47 AM



My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should
keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and
isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out
even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of
the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my
other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have
been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy
is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned
about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of
health, and I intend to keep it that way. 

Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right
thing. 

Lisa
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood

2008-11-17 Thread catatonya
No, but I would start with running a humidifier.  It could be (depending on 
where you live) simply due to the dry air caused by running the heater in this 
colder weather.  Just an idea.
  tonya

Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. 
(At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny 
blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a 
little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him.
My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on 
vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in 
his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I 
am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer 
on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in 
the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe 
take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I 
guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat 
sneeze blood droplets?

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Re: [Felvtalk] 3 1/2 month old kitten with diarrhea

2008-11-17 Thread catatonya
It could still be negative in a few months.  Think positive!
  t

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  Tommy's test was positive.
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:26:44 
To: 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 3 1/2 month old kitten with diarrhea




Thank you for all of your wonderful responses. I can feel the love
and support already! It's so great to hear from other people who
are/were in my situation. 

I just went to the store and bought some canned pumpkin as a couple
of you suggested. When I came home, he saw me messing with the cans
and started meowing for food. So I cracked open the pumpkin, gave him
some mixed with a little canned EVO (which he loves) and he devoured
the mixture. Now let's see if it helps his little tummy! He has a
good appetite, but I don't think he's getting enough nutrition
because the food goes right through him, you know? 

I ordered him some probiotics. I am also going to look for a
holistic vet as someone else suggested. Sorry I can't reply to
everyone but believe me, I have read all of your responses and
appreciate them very much! I will let you know what his test results
are, and will want to hear from you what I should tell him when we go
back in, whether he is positive or not. At this point, I can NOT see
euthanizing him. He's just a happy, playful kitten that happens to
have an upset tummy! 

Yes we can! I like that!! :) 

Lisa
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Re: [Felvtalk] 3 1/2 month old kitten with diarrhea

2008-11-16 Thread catatonya
Good for you.  I have mixed positives with negatives for years with no problem. 
 I think my positive is my healthiest cat right now, in fact.  I don't know 
about the diarrhea.  Have you changed the food at all?
  t

Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I am so happy to have found this list. Two weeks ago, I took in a 3
month old kitten. He's a beautiful orange kitten and I've fallen in
love with him. Yesterday I took him to the vet for his vaccines, and
we ran an FeLV/FIV snap test. It came back positive for FeLV. We
sent off the other test (IFA?) to the lab and I await those results. 

I have two other cats - one is almost 4 (male) and one is 2
(female). They have both been vaccinated against FeLV. My male in
particular has become close with the kitten. it proved to be
impractical to isolate the kitten as he just cried and cried ... and
escaped every time I opened the door. So I decided to supervise them,
make sure they don't fight, keep a clean litterbox, etc. and I just
let him back out with my other cats. From the couple of posts I have
read, I see I am not the only one. And my vet was so adament about
keeping the baby isolated. 

He does have diarrhea, and I was looking at probiotics. Can
something like Fortiflora harm him if he does have a compromised
immune system? I understand I would be giving him good bacteria to
balance things out. He was negative for worms. 

Thank you for any info, and I look forward to the group, regardless
of the test results. My kitten is active, and is a LOVE ... and he
isn't going anywhere! 

Lisa
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Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....

2008-11-15 Thread catatonya
Chris,
   
  I am so sorry for your loss.  Romeo was lucky to show up at your doorstep.
  tonya

Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to
lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who
wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know
enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. And the
resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw away stray that I
first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony
near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running
across the field when I’d whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn’t miss
him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury
everybody’s food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving. I knew
someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he’d scamper away,
just out of reach, cowering. 



Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we’ve had in
a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major
snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him
in. I even had an adoptive home ready—but he turned out to be positive and
they couldn’t handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks,
watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren’t
that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he
thought I was asleep. Little baby steps—first the food dish got moved next
to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And slowly, he’d come
out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my
monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his face—this is
niiice and from that point on, he was totally
comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is that he never
really wanted to get out—he rarely sat at the window—the couch and the bed
were always much more comfortable for him!



Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you’d ever
want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him
in any way---he was just too scared. But he’d jump up on me, lie on my
chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and
otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm
and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take
much of a liking to him—all jealousy, I’m sure. But Romeo persevered and
the two of them had come to terms with each other...



His final illness took him quickly. He’d never been real sick before—had
some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it. Going to
the vet was a major trauma for him so I’d always worked with my wonderful
vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was one of those days
that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. He’d been feeling poorly during
the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard—like he
couldn’t catch his breath. He’d been on antibiotics for what I thought was
another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot
more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they
confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had
filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could
never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood
would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I made that decision
we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was
time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him.



And do I regret taking him in—ABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me so many wonderful
memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he regret coming
inside—ABSOLUTELY NOT—he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know
that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold
and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone. We can’t save them
forever—but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so
very much about life from these little guys. 



Christiane Biagi

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-06 Thread catatonya
I will!  Thank you!

Alice hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey, there is a new injectable 
antibiotic out called  Convenia. The vet gives one injection and it lasts for 
14 DAYS!! My little Miss Clara got it the last time, and she back to her old 
self and antics the very next day. She's hard to give meds to too. You should 
see if your vet can try that.Alice

 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:25:28 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?  Hey 
 Gloria,  We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I 
 start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for 
 days... He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different 
 vets) because he literally climbs the walls to escape! We have tried 
 zithromax and zenoquin and one other. but he never got them every single day 
 for the entire time period. :(  Gloria Lane wrote: Hey Tonya, I might try 
 some Azithromycin. It's become my latest  discovery to try for the unknown. 
 I've used it mostly in cats/kittens  with problem eyes. I've read that some 
 abx are said to affect Herpes,  because of the relationship between the two 
 amino acids lysine and  arginine. The zithro is more expensive, so that 
 might be a  deterrent. IT's liquid, as are amoxi and clinidamycin, so you 
 have to  be able
 to squirt it in the mouth.  Good luck,  Gloria   On Nov 2, 2008, at 
7:49 PM, catatonya wrote:   thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the 
canned food. he's   been exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny 
for at   least a year now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't  
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-06 Thread catatonya
Thanks, but Sneaker won't even come in to eat when I offer treats until I leave 
the area.  There's no way I could make sure he got the treat with the pill in 
it.  I can't get him to come to any type of food with any regularity.  I put 
lysine into all the cats' wet food just trying to get some into him.  I never 
know if he eats any of it or not, because I also keep dry food in the basement 
for them, and he won't come eat in front of me.
  :(
  tonya

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My secret pilling method is meat baby food (no onions or garlic).  I crush 
pills, dissolve the a cc of water and mix in a little baby food.  With liquids 
I just mix it in a little baby food.  Then I offer the baby food on a spoon or 
syringe feed it.  Most kitties love gently warmed meat baby food and think they 
are getting a treat.   
HTH
Sharyl

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From: catatonya 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:25 AM

Hey Gloria,

We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I
start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for
days... He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different
vets) because he literally climbs the walls to escape! We have tried zithromax
and zenoquin and one other. but he never got them every single day for the
entire time period. :(





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Re: [Felvtalk] what's wrong with this picture?

2008-11-04 Thread catatonya
Doesn't sound like he knows a lot about felv to me.
  t

MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  or, more accurately, with this article?

written by a vet-school professor, how many factual errors can YOU find in
the first, say, three paragraphs?? everytime i read this, i get
angrier--i want to be able to write to the man, but instead i keep finding
myself wanting to report him to the head of the vet school, the state
licensing board, every rescue and animal-welfare in the contiguous states
who might ever mistakenly bring a cat near him...

perhaps i'm just over-reacting. so i'm asking you folks to read the article,
and see if anything jumps out at you.

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20081021/HEALTH/810210348/1242/health

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
He's eating fine.  The problem is he's 12 years old.  Can cats 'harbor' fip 
like felv?
  tonya

Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Tonya,
I lost one 12 week old to suspected wet FIP 2 years ago. She had a chronic
URI and began having fevers that stopped responding to antibiotics. When
her belly very first started to swell I noticed it, but the vet couldn't see
it (or perhaps didn't want me to worry too much prematurely?) It quickly
became obvious, (swayed, stuck out to the sides, hung way down, felt a bit
like a water balloon) and was accompanied by anorexia and a very pronounced
spine. From the first signs of swelling to the end was maybe 3 weeks or
less? Hope sneakers is ok, if he's still eating good and no fevers
then that's a good sign.

Beth

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:49 PM, catatonya wrote:

 thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food. he's been
 exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at least a year
 now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't know...
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
That's why I'm thinking it's not fip.  This has been going on over a year (the 
breathing difficulty).  The weight gain only for a few months.  I would think 
he would have to show some other symptoms and be sicker than the breathing 
problem if it's fip, but he does have a fat belly.
  thank you!
  t

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, it isn't a matter of harboring FIP. FIP is a mutation of coronavirus,
which many/most cats, especially those who have been through kill shelters,
have been exposed to at one time or another. Most cats can carry
coronavirus throughout their lives with no ill effects. There is no way to
tell in which cats the virus will mutate. Cats who live in single cat
households generally clear the virus over time, with multiple cat
households.

Wet food does not typically cause weight gain, if anything it would cause
weight loss.

There is a test which MC will probably remember the name of that can rule
out FIP. Most vets do not know about it. If the cat does indeed have wet
FIP, the prognosis is very poor and the time frame is short, but I do think
a lot of vets use FIP as a diagnosis when they don't really know what is
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
great site. I'm going to assume if he's not got sicker over the past few months 
it must just be weight gain.  He is eating more because he likes the wet food 
better.
  thanks,
  t

Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here's a link with a good explanation:

http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
Hey Gloria,
   
  We've tried it.  The problem is he's very difficult to pill.  When I start 
him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for days...  
He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different vets) because he 
literally climbs the walls to escape!  We have tried zithromax and zenoquin and 
one other. but he never got them every single day for the entire time period.  
:(

Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey Tonya, I might try some Azithromycin. It's become my latest 
discovery to try for the unknown. I've used it mostly in cats/kittens 
with problem eyes. I've read that some abx are said to affect Herpes, 
because of the relationship between the two amino acids lysine and 
arginine. The zithro is more expensive, so that might be a 
deterrent. IT's liquid, as are amoxi and clinidamycin, so you have to 
be able to squirt it in the mouth.

Good luck,

Gloria


On Nov 2, 2008, at 7:49 PM, catatonya wrote:

 thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food. he's 
 been exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at 
 least a year now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't 
 know...
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
His belly feels 'tight' to the touch.  Can a cat keep an ongoing herpes 
infection that never worsens or improves much?

Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A vet can usually tell if fluid in the 
stomach feels like the type of
accumulation you find with FIP or not, if there is fluid, they will draw it
to see if characterisitic of FIP (straw colored) but the fluid should still
be tested.

FIP is frequently misdiagnosed. And yes, many cats carry corona virus
their whole lives without ever developing FIP which is caused by a mutation
in the virus.

Wet fip (where you have a fluid effusion in the belly or chest cavity)
usually results in a very sick cat pretty quickly, so it's good if she's
eating, feels well, energetic, etc.

Would be good to have a vet check her belly to see what they think may be
going on in case it's something else, too, of course.


   
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
It doesn't feel like it's fluid.  It doesn't sound like there's any fluid when 
he listened to his chest the last time. (I was thinking asthma or chf at that 
time).  I just don't want to take him to the vet anymore.  I don't see him for 
weeks after a vet visit. :(
  t

MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw
fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good without reason to.




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Re: [Felvtalk] my kittens!

2008-11-02 Thread catatonya
I'm sure you've had many responses by now, but the answer is a big no.  I've 
got a 10 year old leukemia positive on my bed with me right now.  Fat, sassy, 
and happy.
  tonya

SALLY NORDSTROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I rescued a litter of kittens and they have been diagnosed with feline 
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[Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-02 Thread catatonya
Hi all,
   
  I know many of you have had experience with fip.  My cat sneaker has chronic 
herpes (vet thinks that's what it is.)  he has difficulty breathing, but his 
lungs are clear. We've medicated him to no avail.  And he is semiferal and hard 
to pill, much less use a nebulizer or anything.   Anyway, I've noticed he seems 
to have gained weight in his belly.  Would a cat that is over 10 years old 
harbor fip all that time?  Wouldn't he act sicker if that's what it was?  I've 
got a crf cat so I've been feeding more wet food.  So I guess it could just be 
weight gain.. but it's a FAT tummy.  Am I being paranoid.  When he breathes 
through his nose it sounds like he has a cold.  There is no sneezing and he has 
no eye discharge or anything.
  thanks in advance for any ideas.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive

2008-11-02 Thread catatonya
my opinion would be leave them together. they've already been together.  the 
ones that are negative may have been positive and fought it off.  if so they 
are probably now immune.
  t

Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My two cents... even though they were all exposed equally. I would keep them
apart. Repeated exposure is needed for infection to occur. So even though
they are not positive now it could still happen. If you get to the point
where the negative kitens are still negative after a few months and have had
their vaccines you may be able to mix them then. For now I would separate.
IMHO

Sally(in VA)


On 10/29/08, SALLY NORDSTROM wrote:

 Ok, guys, now I need more help! I picked the kittens up tonight and after
 I got home, I saw that only one tested positive. Can the other kittens be
 with her? Even though they tested negative, is the Humane Society worried
 that the others will eventually test positive? I don't understand any of
 this!

 --- On Wed, 10/29/08, MacKenzie, Kerry N. 
 wrote:

  From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 4:29 PM
  Sally, I personally would not vaccinate a positive cat. See
  Jean Dodds'
  and Charles Loop's (both vets) views here. (The
  paragraph below is taken
  from the website.) Kerry M.
 
  http://www.newsagepress.com/protectyourpet.html
 
  All packages of vaccinations carry warnings
  that they should be
  injected only in healthy animals. In the case of cats,
  vaccine
  manufacturers advise against vaccinating pregnant or
  nursing cats.
  However, many pets are not healthy when vaccinated although
  they might
  not have outward signs of health problems. Charles Loops,
  DVM, a
  holistic veterinarian from Pittsboro, North Carolina, notes
  that
  chemically killed viruses or bacteria are injected
  directly into the
  blood stream, which is an unnatural route of
  infection. (7) This causes
  the animal's antibodies to attempt to fight off the
  offending virus
  molecules and render them harmless. If the animal's
  immune system is too
  weakened, he or she cannot fight off these viruses and can
  develop a
  reaction to the vaccine. Even small amounts of a virus that
  is
  introduced through a vaccination may be too much for sick
  animals to
  fight off. They then may fall ill from the very disease to
  which they
  have been vaccinated.
 
 
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  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests
  positive
 
  Another question. My kittens tested positive with the
  ELISA test. May
  they have their vaccines? Mom gets tested Friday. If
  positive, may she
  have her vaccines? May she be spayed?
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-02 Thread catatonya
thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food.  he's been exposed 
to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at least a year now... 
we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't know...
  t

Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Now this was many years ago like 1972 when my Bud cat got sick. I was in
college and my dad took hin to the vet who dx'd FIP. Now I know there were
not tests done it was based on observation and he did not respond to
antibiotics. Anyway the weekend I was to come home he left and was never
seen again he was 10. I do not know about the tummy part I do know he was
losing weight.

Sally


On 11/2/08, catatonya wrote:

 Hi all,

 I know many of you have had experience with fip. My cat sneaker has
 chronic herpes (vet thinks that's what it is.) he has difficulty breathing,
 but his lungs are clear. We've medicated him to no avail. And he is
 semiferal and hard to pill, much less use a nebulizer or anything. Anyway,
 I've noticed he seems to have gained weight in his belly. Would a cat that
 is over 10 years old harbor fip all that time? Wouldn't he act sicker if
 that's what it was? I've got a crf cat so I've been feeding more wet
 food. So I guess it could just be weight gain.. but it's a FAT
 tummy. Am I being paranoid. When he breathes through his nose it sounds
 like he has a cold. There is no sneezing and he has no eye discharge or
 anything.
 thanks in advance for any ideas.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Need suggestions help for 2 yr old leuk cat

2008-11-01 Thread catatonya
My first positive cat had severe uri's.  I took her to a homeopathic vet in 
addition to her regular vet and it got her through two really bad ones (almost 
pneumonia).   The last time she got sick I had to let her go.  She was just too 
hard to medicate and too miserable to go on.  She lived to 7 or 8 years old 
though.
  tonya

Claudia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
I need your help!!!  I just joined this website.  I'm so glad something like 
this exists as a resource for people with feline leuk cats.  I have a young cat 
(she's 2) who was feral, I started feeding her over the winter.  She's been 
with me almsot 2 years now.  I decided to bring her in the hosue 'cause she was 
a little kitten then, and I was worried about her being aout in the cold.  She 
was fine for a while ( at least 5 moths)  then developed a couph.  I brought 
her to the vet, she was tested adn they said she had feline leukemia.  She's 
been tested tiwce, so I guess she fdoes have it.  I didn't knwo anything about 
thsi illness in cats.  Since then, in the past 10 months, she's had a cold or 
upper respiratory problems, inclding possibly asthma and allergies chronically. 
 It seems she's been getting sick evry 2-3 months.  She's been on anitbiotics 
which has worked so far.In the past 3 weeks she's had an occasional couph, 
and he
rbreathing ahsn't been normal.  Sh's been on Clavamox anibiotic for 10 days,  
it's helped a little, but this apst Tuesday and Today, she had  a coupel of 
episodes where she began a couphing fit, then started weezing, and panting for 
air, with her outh opening for a few seconds for air.  IT was scary, I'd never 
seen her like that. I turned ont humidifier and that seemd to help her.One 
thig though was that when I've had the humidifier on for too long, I found mold 
on the windown int he room, and that's not good either.  
 I'm planning on taking her to the vet tomorrow.  I don't know what they'll 
tell me. I want to keep her healthy for as long as I can. 
HEr vet told me that she might have ashtma, but it was hard to tell form her X 
ray because she also has the Leukemia.  The vet didn't want to put her on 
Steroids because it's deadly for leukemia cats.
I'm wondering what to do???   I was told people ont his board know a lot about 
feline Leuk.  Please offer any suggestions, recommendations.
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member, advice needed please!

2008-11-01 Thread catatonya
It sounds like you're doing everything you can.  My first positive went through 
2 very bad periods and recovered to live to 7 or 8 years old.   I hope Tora 
pulls through.
  take care,
  tonya

amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV 
yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! 
That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which 
helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much 
better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we 
tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they 
suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with 
vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been 
dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when 
we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing 
that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else 
that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time 
I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal
 life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe 
not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to 
Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely 
appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora.
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Re: [Felvtalk] seeking home for adult feluk positive

2008-10-30 Thread catatonya
I'm glad you're all right Tad.  I've started saying no too.  If something were 
to happen to me, there's no one to take care of all the critters.  Take care of 
yourself.
  tonya

Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Susan
Every one has orange kitties lately...
I just brought home a young orange boy a couple months ago
and discovered I was having a heart attack the next morning...
4 days in the hospital... I currently have 9 FeLV+ and 12 seniors
and am learning to say NO
In the mean time there are 4 6month old orange kittens in eastern Mass.
that are running out of time Help
Tad

Susan Hoffman wrote:

Looks like it.

How's your FeLv population anyway? (I have a lovely sweet FeLV+ girl --light 
orange/buff tabby -- living outside a house I just rented in need of a home.)


--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Tad Burnett wrote:

 

From: Tad Burnett 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking home for adult feluk positive
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 8:34 PM
Am I still connected to this list 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-19 Thread catatonya
I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now.  I've never had it 
transferred.  Your cats should not have a problem.  Good luck!
  tonya

Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much
from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible 
condition, 
near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out 
later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether 
she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite 
lovable. 
Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth 
didn't 
look so good and that was typical in feral cats. 
When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her 
mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very 
grim 
diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a 
delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was 
missing 
all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the 
bottom. I was 
horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. 
After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some 
sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes 
mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea 
when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, 
but did 
not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken 
diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing 
results) 
and her diarrhea is completely gone.
So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and 
she 
really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am 
getting 
ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her 
breath 
is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about 
stressing her 
out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which 
will 
probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on
her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? 
I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 
months 
(I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv 
vax) These 
2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. 
My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? 
Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my Jack-Jack today

2008-10-18 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry for your loss.
  tonya

Wendy Griebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My little furbaby Jack-Jack crossed the bridge today. He had cancer and 
was not responding to treatment. We will miss him greatly.

Wendy

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Re: [Felvtalk] felv and my other cat

2008-10-12 Thread catatonya
How old are the cats?  Have they already been exposed to each other?
  tonya

Dorlis Grote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hello, i just found out that my new baby has leukemia. took both my new 
cats in for shots. Homie is okay, but Annie tested positive. the vet said to 
keep them seperated. i can do that, but one of them is going to feel like she 
is being punished. they both like to sleep on my bed with me and this means one 
will no longer be able to sleep with me. how does one seperate them without 
feeling gulty about the one who will be left out. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7

2008-10-12 Thread catatonya
I would not worry about mixing in this situation. jmo based on my experience of 
over 10 years of dealing with mixing.
  tonya

Carolyn Rauschert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dorlis,

I took in a FELV+ male cat last May. He was a stray who wanted to come in, 
but wasn't neutered. He became deathly sick after he was neutered by the 
Humane Society. They did not test him first. Since I felt responsible, I 
took him in to nurse. I doctored him the best I could and he has thrived. I 
kept him apart from my other 4 female negative cats for three months. Now I 
am letting him out for a good part of the day. He goes in his room at night 
(he has his own bedroom) and I feed him separate as best I can.. All my 
other cats have been vaccinated for years. I could not keep him locked up 
forever. Single MOM.Carolyn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-30 Thread catatonya
Robyn,
   
  You and Kiwi are in my thoughts and prayers.
  tonya

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  I have not posted for a while about kiwi. I think the last one I told you 
that my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan. He never did. Before that 
I tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings. I 
have no funds to get him to vet. Sad to say, kiwi is really sick. He is unable 
to keep food down. He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat. I gave him 
just a little wet food, and he through it all up. He does drink a little water. 
I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 5 to 10 minutes 
to see if he can keep it down. He used his kitty litter in the last day or so. 
Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food. He didn't throw it up, 
but he had diarrhea and he was bony. He was always full of energy. I can't let 
him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a shelter and explain the 
situation to them and ask them humanly put him to sleep. I don't want to do 
this, but I don't want him to suffer
 anymore. To you who have not read my earlier postings, I did not adopt kiwi, 
my son found him when he was about 2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling. He 
bought him home and we did our usual thing and gave him kitten formula and 
kitten food. He thrived. My daughter who has another cat took her's to a 
regular vet visit, but de sided to take kiwi also. (this one time) Sadly, Kiwi 
came out positive for feline leukemia. We checked him about when he was about 7 
or 8 months old, and again he came back positive. We new that we would not be 
able to afford to pay a vet so we tried to find a rescue. None of them were 
able to take a Feline leukemia positive kitten/cat. We live in Fairfax County 
Virginia, which is a large county, but no one could take him. So we did the 
best we could for him, but it wasn't enough. I don't blame anyone. It's just 
how it is. It's just so hard when your hands are tied. Well, I better go for 
now. I will let you know what happened. Bye, Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] So Happy!

2008-09-23 Thread catatonya
Yay!!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello everyone!
Tweezers tests came back and it is likely that all that is wrong with him 
(Besides being positive) is a secondary infection! No liver stint. No blood 
parasites, no crystals, no micro cystosis. He already looks so much better. His 
eyes are not goopy, he seems to be gaining weight and no more watery stools. He 
actually was playing for the last day or so! Celebrate !! (Dance! Dance! 
Dance!)
Sue

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Re: [Felvtalk] Sharkey Please add to the CLS :(

2008-09-23 Thread catatonya
I'm so sorry, Sherry.
  tonya

Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oh, damn. Gentle Bridge vibes to Sharkey. He knew he was loved.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:55 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Sharkey Please add to the CLS :(

Well he was going to get to go home with his foster parents when he was
well enough to,but he had worsen very quickly. We lost him on the 18th.
He was a beautiful gray and white fluffy boy.He had a loving home for 5
months.
Sherry



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Re: [Felvtalk] testing a new cat ~ when and what test

2008-09-22 Thread catatonya
Most people will probably suggest another test, but I would be satisfied with 
another snap test.  If all your own cats are negative and vaccinated I doubt 
there would be a problem.  (Seriously doubt. like 99-1) even if she tested 
positive and you mixed her with adult vaccinated cats.  
   
  Also, when I say my adults are vaccinated I don't mean that they are 
vaccinated yearly.  When they were kittens they got their first dose and a 
booster.  Then I vaccinate again the 2nd and 3rd year.  After that, I don't 
vaccinate them anymore.  And I've never had the virus transferred even though 
I've brought in several positives.
   
  tonya

Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I rescued a mama kitty and one kitten 2 months ago. 
Both mama and kitten tested negative for FeLV August 3.
Mama stayed at vet office for 19 days. Lots of cats go through there because
she is low cost SN who works with rescue. 

Mama has been at my house in a two room suite (with 2 sets of doors between
her and my cats) for a month. I am taking her to local vet tomorrow for a
check up (she has had a big belly since arrivinghas lost some of it with
controlled feeding). I want to make sure she is healthy before exposing her
to my five negatives. I am hoping to keep her. She's pretty timid and has a
tendency to bite while she is grooming me so I worry about placing her in an
adoptive home.

I plan to have her tested for FeLV a second time tomorrow. Should I do the
SNAP again or the one that tests bone marrow? Is 30 days in my house long
enough or should I wait longer? She was in a cage at vet's office but the
high cat traffic does concern me.

Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member

2008-09-21 Thread catatonya
I disagree.  I think the the vaccine is more effective than doctors give it 
credit for.  I have had so many negative (vaccinated) cats exposed to 
positives, and have never had it transferred to one of them.
  tonya

Sabrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Lorrie,
Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties
I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of
course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their
status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements
I gave them, contact me offlist.

Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even
now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a
number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of
the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease.

Sabrina
www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com
www.LovingGraceRescue.org
Orange County, CA
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine

2008-09-21 Thread catatonya
Sounds like you've got a good vet!
  t

Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I adopted Mandy in July 2007 and found out the next day that she was 
leukemia-positive. My vet said that the vaccine is 90+% effective and that 
the likelihood of my other six adult, healthy cats getting leukemia was 
extremely small. At this time, Mandy is very healthy (just at vet today) 
and the other six are fine. They have mixed without restriction all of this 
time.

Pat


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From: Lorrie 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine


 Sabrina,

 Thanks for your feedback on the FelV vaccine. Years ago when the
 vaccine first came out I heard it was not too effective, but I hoped
 it had improved.

 Has anyone else had experience with the vaccine to share with me?

 Lorrie

 On 09-19, Sabrina wrote:
 Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago
 about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were
 retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I
 did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are
 interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them,
 contact me offlist.

 Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy
 even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat
 clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of
 leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for
 the disease.

 Sabrina
 www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com
 www.LovingGraceRescue.org
 Orange County, CA

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Re: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried.

2008-09-19 Thread catatonya
I would feed him really good food.  Like maybe even a/d, or at least a good 
brand of kitten food.  I would also put him on l-lysine for the eyes.  Has he 
seen the vet yet.  I don't think it would hurt to start him on interferon 
either.  I have a cat that is 10 years old and still looks like a kitten.  
Sometimes kittens that have been inbred, or were born to young mothers (ferals, 
etc) just don't grow that big.
  Good luck,
  tonya

Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I picked up the new FeLV+ kitty today and I am very worried about him. He is 
supposed to be close to two years old but he is the size of a kitten no older 
then 6 months. I can feel his bones as if he has been on the street starving. 
His eyes are a little gunky and his nose seems to be running. He eats like he 
has been starving and he drank an amazing amount of water. He just seems 
sickly. I am keeping him separated from my other cats just in case, and he will 
go to my vet as soon as I can get him an appointment. The other animals at this 
rescue seem very healthy, but I can't imagine why he is the way he is. Does 
anyone have any ideas? Could this be just another thing that happens to 
positive kitties?
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