Re: [Finale] proportional notation

Although I’ve never used it, I think that’s what Finale means by “Time Signature Spacing”. You should be able to accomplish the same thing with the right settings under Music Spacing Options. I’m in an older version of Finale, but for me that’s under Preferences > Document Options > Music

Re: [Finale] lose tempo when exporting audio file

could figure out a way to make multiple definitions.) mdl > On Aug 20, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Mark D Lew <markd...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I’m running Finale 2010 on Mac OS 10.11.6 (El Capitan). I had to do a fresh > install on a new computer earlier this year, so I didn’t

[Finale] lose tempo when exporting audio file

I’m running Finale 2010 on Mac OS 10.11.6 (El Capitan). I had to do a fresh install on a new computer earlier this year, so I didn’t keep any of my old settings or preferences. For playback, I have no external device nor Garritan sounds nor human playback; I just do the plain MIDI that comes

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

In the late 1980s I played around with Lime. I liked Lime in its general structure and approach, but it was limited. The first version of Finale I used was version 2-point-something, which I borrowed from a cousin. It wasn’t long before I knew I wanted it, so I bought my own and started with

Re: [Finale] Preferred method for entering notes/etc into finale2012

Count me as one more in the Speedy club. I use Speedy Entry with the qwerty keyboard. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu

[Finale] Will Finale 2010 run on El Capitan?

Two weeks ago my MacBook unexpectedly died, so I went out and bought a new one. Among other things this meant leaping all the way from Mac OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) to 10.11 (El Capitan). On the old Mac I was running Finale 2010. I was perfectly happy with that version and was not planning to

Re: [Finale] Hide ties

Since I stopped doing regular engraving a few years ago, I've kept subscribed to the list but I only look at it intermittently. As a result, I sometimes stumble upon an old thread many months later. If it's still of interest, I think I can shed further light on this topic: On Jun 27, 2015, at

Re: [Finale] Force lyrics all same size on reduced notes

I'm not at my Finale computer now, but I believe if you go into the Edit Lyrics box, select everything, and apply Fixed Size to that, that should do the trick. mdl -Original Message- >From: Robert Patterson >Sent: Sep 23, 2015 7:21 AM >To: finale

Re: [Finale] 2012 Finale (Mac) lyric issue

I don't know about your original problem, but you ought to be able to save yourself some tedious nudging by selecting multiple syllables at once and choosing clear syllable adjustments from the drop-down menu. (I'm saying this from memory; I don't remember exactly what it's called, but it's

Re: [Finale] Lyrics Tool issues

I would second everything Dennis has said. Finale offers you a zillion separate verses. I find it helpful to maximum use of them, both for different voices AND different sections of the piece. On rare occasions I'll use the same lyrics verse for more than one voice, but only if I'm 100% sure

Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Italian grammar

While I concur with Robert and others that it is overly fussy to try to impose complete Italian grammar an Italian words borrowed by English for music, I would still note that the second option -- L'Istesso tempo with a capital I -- is not correct in any language. mdl

Re: [Finale] Hard hyphen question

I'm not so picky. Opt-hyphen seems to look good to my eye, at least on the screen. I've been out of the loop for a while. Can Finale handle Unicode in lyrics yet? If not, then it's a good thing you're not picky, because Mac doesn't have a non-breaking hyphen like Windows does. So if you

Re: [Finale] Hard hyphen question

Mark - it's been a while! Nice to know you are still here. Thanks, Chuck. I don't do much engraving these days (or much music at all, really), but I've stayed subscribed to the list and I still skim the subject lines as they flow through my email inbox. mdl

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I don't think it's fair to call the Steinberg product vaporware. Steinberg is an established software company that has hired an established development team (almost the entire Sibelius staff) headed by one of the most respected people

Re: [Finale] What will be the state of notation products by 2016?

On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Steinberg.until they ship something, who knows. There are plenty of other notation packages out there that are nice, but don't have a real substantial user base. Plus people using Sibelius or finale generally won't switch. I've been

Re: [Finale] Export to Audio File dialog box inconsistent

On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:06 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Yes. When you are using the standard Finale instruments, you get both options. When you are using the VST instruments, you get only the WAV option. Thanks. Looking further, I see that one of the files was set for Play Finale Through

[Finale] Export to Audio File dialog box inconsistent

I have little experience with sound files, but a client wanted some, so I used the Export to Audio File function and the result came out all right. The one thing that confused me was that with one of my files I was given two radio button options of Standard Audio File and Compressed MP3 File,

Re: [Finale] Fwd: : Lyric Hyphenator

Thanks, Christopher. Was assuming care would need to be taken along those and similar lines. Yep. It also can be tripped up by words that have different hyphenations depending on context, like proj-ect vs pro-ject. Still, it seems to do a good job most of the time, including on those

Re: [Finale] OT: what to do with old computer

On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Ryan wrote: Tax deduction? For the fair market value of the computer, yes. But the lack of much fair market value is probably the reason you're donating it to a library instead of trying to sell it mdl ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] long, flat slurs

Is there a way to flatten long slurs easily? I know it's been discussed here in the past, but I don't think a solution was given. This has for many many years been one of my main complaints (and feature requests) for Finale. The problem is that Finale relies on a Bezier curve for all slurs.

Re: [Finale] Font in red color?

On 2/5/2013 7:04 AM, Raimund Lintzen wrote: is there any color information inside of a font? Could I have a font which is showing up on screen and printing in red color? Would it be possible (by creating or changing a given font) to define different colors to different items? On Feb

Re: [Finale] different syllabification in different verses

On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:35 AM, dc wrote: Many thanks to all for the sound advice. I'm still wondering if the reduction is absolutely necessary or not - i.e. whether it makes things clearer or not. I have three verses, but never more than two different configurations. I'm not quite sure

Re: [Finale] different syllabification in different verses

On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Phil Daley wrote: I don't get it at all. Where is the alto line? What it the bottom clef? Tenor or bass? It doesn't have any help for any verse. For 4 part hymns, this would be way too confusing to do stuff like that on all 4 parts. I think we all

Re: [Finale] different syllabification in different verses

On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:38 AM, dc wrote: Suppose you have several verses under the same music, but with small variants in the syllabification between verses - two notes for one syllable in one verse but two syllables in another. What's the standard way of indicating this if the beaming

Re: [Finale] different syllabification in different verses

I'm not sure if this is the exact situation Noel is describing, but if you have a situation where verse 1 has one syllable on a quarter note and verse 2 has two syllables on repeated eighth notes on the same pitch, I would NOT write it as two eighths with a dotted tie. I would write it as a

Re: [Finale] different syllabification in different verses

On Jan 20, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I've dealt with this before and the lyrics get reduced along with the reduced noteheads, plus you have to assign them to a different layer and that causes lyric extension issues. I could try using a fixed font size for the lyrics, but

Re: [Finale] Strophic settings

On Jan 19, 2013, at 4:50 AM, dc wrote: I'm afraid this question has already been asked, possibly by me! How many verses can decently be put under the same music without it becoming very hard to read? I'd say three or four at the most, but I'm no singer, so I'm not sure even four is not

[Finale] TAN: convert cassette tape to digital

Hoping to tap the knowledge of the List here: I have a cassette tape recording from a live performance of mine from 20+ years ago, and I want to convert it to a digital format. Nothing fancy. I just want to be able to listen to it on a CD player or iTunes. What's the simplest way to do that?

Re: [Finale] TAN: convert cassette tape to digital

On Dec 1, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote: I used audacity to do exactly this last week with some cassettes recorded in 1984. I simply plugged the output jack plug into the microphone socket of my pc. I have Audacity. I didn't realize it was as simple as plugging the output jack

Re: [Finale] Flippin' fermatas!

This post is a few months old, but I happened to come across it today when clearing out old messages I missed. On Apr 13, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jamin Hoffman wrote: I am trying to put fermatas over whole rests in a score (MacFin 2012a); I insert real whole notes, change them to real whole

Re: [Finale] resetting lyrics baselines

How can I put all the lyrics back to their original vertical position (in other words, remove all the adjustments done my moving the little triangle at the left)? I though TGT Reset Vertical lyrics adjustment might do it, but it has no effect. You can set the values directly with Lyrics

Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs

2. Adam Engst (TidBITS founder) was kind enough to offer some advice: don't bother password protecting your PDFs -- they're easily removed. I'm not sure I agree with that. Although it's true that someone who wants to remove a password can easily do so, it still sets up a situation where it

Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs

On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: Apologies if you also subscribe to the SCI list: I've been selling my compositions as paper sheet music for years, but I'm getting more and more requests for PDFs. I feel a little uneasy about this since a PDF (even with a password) can be

Re: [Finale] attacca vs. segue

John Howell wrote: Subtle differences. Segue (follows) indicates moving directly to the next thing, which often requres a change of mood or meter or key, while attacca (which I assume means attack!) means connect without the slightest break. I'm at work and away from my dictionaries right

Re: [Finale] Different Bar Lines in Same Score's Measure

On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: No, I think you got it. And I just got it, too—by nudging the lyric barline you don't need an extra entry. But you need at least ONE entry in the measure to attach the lyric barline to. If a part has rests, it isn't possible. Or is it?

Re: [Finale] congratulations + networking

Oh, crap. Did I accidentally send that to the Finale list?? If so, I apologize and hope you'll all ignore it mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] congratulations + networking

Hi Michael, I mentioned this on the Finale List last month, but I want to say again congratulations for getting Recordare merged into the new MakeMusic. I also want to plant an idea in your head, if I may. I don't know what sort of opportunities might come up in the course of things, but if

Re: [Finale] REALLY deleting items - can it be done?

On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: The previous person was a Finale amateur and there were lyrics with globs of confused placement (and deleted lyrics that would reappear) I've found that lyrics are particularly vulnerable to old junk mysteriously reappearing, and given

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic acquires Garritan

On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: About a month ago, they acquired Recordare and the MusicXML technology, and made the Dolet plug-ins free for everyone. Whoa, I missed that news. Congratulations, Michael. (Or at least I think it's congratulations. This is a good thing,

Re: [Finale] Hyphenation (was Click Assignment)

On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:40 AM, John Howell wrote: I agree with Mark in principle, but in practice it can be a real can of worms! The problem he cites with English words in long melismas is a real one, simply because in English each vowel had a number of possible pronunciations, unlike

Re: [Finale] Click Assignment

On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: And every time I think I know the rules I am surprised by some exception. I try to find authoritative sources whenever possible. Maybe it's because this is close to my specialty, but I think I would dissent from this. The authoritative

Re: [Finale] Hyphenation (was Click Assignment)

On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Yet, you have pretty much done that. I kept your long post from a few years back, and will add this last bit to it. I have never seen such a clearly laid-out presentation of the issues involved in lyric hyphenation. Thanks for the

Re: [Finale] Hyphenation (was Click Assignment)

Here it is, complete. I think I remember editing lightly for typos (not many of yours!) and punctuation and removing a few paragraphs that I didn't think were germane. Some of the quoted replied are not clearly delineated in this formatting, but mostly you can follow it. I've sent it as an

Re: [Finale] Click Assignment

On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: But your parallel is not an equal one. If an informed composer chooses to break the rules of harmony, the sound will be readily apparent. If he/she breaks the rules of hyphenation, the sound will be apparent only if it is for some clear and

Re: [Finale] Hyphenation (was Click Assignment)

On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: In both songs, the word is hypenated Ba-bel even though in the first instance it is clearly meant to rhyme with rabble, which I think is a typo. A perfect example of being led astray by the dictionary! Clearly the copyist looked it up

Re: [Finale] Click Assignment

On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Doug Walter wrote: On the subject of hyphenation, since whatever rules apply have always been a mystery to me and I used to sit with a dictionary in my lap as I entered lyrics, the Dictionary widget included with the Mac Dashboard turns out to be pretty easy and

Re: [Finale] looking for keyboard LAPTOP command to view next page = Mac laptop

Does function+down arrow work? I've got a MacBook Pro, and typing function+down arrow on the laptop keyboard generally mimics the page down key on a full keyboard. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Absolute sizes

Owing to my background in pre-DTP typesetting, I'm in the habit of always thinking of my music in terms of absolute sizes on the page. That's the main reason I resisted system reduction when it was introduced and stuck with page reduction. The math is much easier that way. For the same reason.

Re: [Finale] Since it has been quiet I have a question...

On Nov 11, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Sorry to be slow in acknowledging your response - usually there are more than one, and I acknowledge/discuss them all at once. Your method is better than what I was doing, but can I trust those two items will stay together in proper

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

John Howell wrote: But I'm curious why Eric thinks this is incorrect, and what makes him think that our David lives in California and yet manages to commute to NYC for rehearsals of his viol consort at NYU. Got any proof to submit, Eric? Eric evidently made a mistake, as we all do

Re: [Finale] Since it has been quiet I have a question...

On Nov 8, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: What is the best way to indicate a time signature of 6/8 followed by 3/4 in parenthesis? My default plan would be: 1. Check use a different time signature for display. 2. Pick composite for the display time sig, and set it up as 6/8 + 3/4.

Re: [Finale] Piano Tremolos

On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Nigel Hanley wrote: The tool gives the correct marking, ie a two line tremolo, but so far I'm unable to position it. Is this just due to not understanding the settings? The plug-in makes the tremolo marking in the form of altered beams. You can adjust them with

Re: [Finale] Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

David H Bailey wrote: Just because he has died, which is very sad, there's no need to beat about the bush -- he could be downright insulting if he thought a person's reply was beneath contempt. Of course, he was always right. :-) Well, *almost* always mdl

Re: [Finale] OT: music collection database? Mac, or cross-platform

On Oct 26, 2011, at 3:27 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: That sounds like either everybody's using it free right now so they can build up a huge database of pieces that will make data entry easier for future groups The idea of everyone contributing to a huge database that eventually becomes a

Re: [Finale] OT: music collection database? Mac, or cross-platform

On Oct 26, 2011, at 6:49 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: Or not, since apparently you think all computer users are gods of the backup and would never have a chance to lose their data when the online database goes away. I don't think it's a matter of assuming computer users are gods of the

Re: [Finale] OT - Font question

On Oct 24, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Jamin Hoffman wrote: Second - I am looking for a font that closely resembles the handwritten script font I have seen used on the Nutcracker and other mid-20th century engravings, and frequently by Luck's Music Library. I just happen to like it, and admire its

Re: [Finale] OT - Font question

On Oct 24, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Jamin Hoffman wrote: Second - I am looking for a font that closely resembles the handwritten script font I have seen used on the Nutcracker and other mid-20th century engravings, and frequently by Luck's Music Library. I just happen to like it, and admire its

Re: [Finale] Fin2012 upgrade

On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:35 PM, dershem wrote: Inaccurate for one, as it isn't being installed - just sitting there, frozen. And 'installing' and 'being installed' disagree on the verb. The computer is installing. Finale is being installed. It *was* installing when the message first appeared.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog

I don't know about v2012, but when I used v2010 on my prior computer I omitted all the Garritan stuff and it worked just fine. Like you, I use playback as a proofreading tool and not much more. mdl -Original Message- From: Giz Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net Sent: Oct 14, 2011 7:46 AM

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

On Oct 4, 2011, at 2:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: Should a punctuation mark be after a word or at the end of the extension line? : a) peace; __ or b) peace __ ; There is some tradition for both, but (a) is more common in every era and near-universal now. All the

Re: [Finale] [OT] f-hole or F-hole / f-Loch oder F-Loch

On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:30 AM, John Howell wrote: But that was exactly the original question: does the shape of the icon as it is carved control the shape of the letter to be used in typescript? Your Lucida Calligraph did not come through, possibly because I might not have that font on my

Re: [Finale] OT: Selling your CDs and Sales Tax

On Sep 28, 2011, at 2:11 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: But it would have helped me a great deal in interpreting your response had you not been so modest, and instead have actually included information on your professional qualifications for answering the question. I did mention it at the

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: Just an update for those who were kind enough to help. I took the proofs to show the composer today and when I showed her the bar in question she said, Oh, you mean THAT bar. Those lines are to indicate where words have been missed out.

Re: [Finale] OT: Selling your CDs and Sales Tax

I know many on the list play in groups that have made CDs that they will sell at concerts/gigs. I'm wondering if anybody knows what the deal is in the US (New York State, specifically) with sales tax: That is, if you're selling your CDs after a concert/gig, are you responsible for paying sales

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: To Peter, most likely your client misunderstands the use of word extensions. They should only be used for non-hyphenated syllables under more than one notehead. You should correct that in your work for him. But if you HAD to, just click Adjust Word

Re: [Finale] OT: Selling your CDs and Sales Tax

John Howell wrote: 2. You are responsible for COLLECTING it and remitting it; the purchaser is responsible for PAYING it but to you, not to the state. No. The seller is responsible for paying sales tax, whether it was collected or not. The seller is expected to collect it from the buyer, but

Re: [Finale] OT: Selling your CDs and Sales Tax

David Fenton wrote (in separate messages): The rest of the faux experts can sit on their hands. I'm not really faux. I actually do this for a living. State sales tax isn't my field (especially not NY), but another in our firm is very well-versed in them, and I had a quick chat with her before

Re: [Finale] adjusting rolled chords

On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Ryan wrote: Adjusting the rolled chord articulation symbol is a big time sink for me. I can't seem to figure out how to automatically set the symbol to the length that I want so that the symbol appears correctly (to my eyes) when I use the articulation metatool.

Re: [Finale] adjusting rolled chords

On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: We discussed this at length on ths list many years ago. Google turned up this post http://www.mail-archive.com/finale@mail.shsu.edu/msg07619.html, but I can't figure out how to navigate to the longer one that preceded it. Aha, here

Re: [Finale] adjusting rolled chords

On Sep 26, 2011, Christopher Smith wrote: Clicking the bottom note of the chord should give you the right length. Experimenting a bit will give you the optimum place to click, and the lower handle is selected upon entry, so the down-arrow or up-arrow to nudge the length is already enabled

Re: [Finale] disaster! Help!

I went through a similar experience not long ago when I upgraded from FinMac v2004 to v2010. All four of the things you mention I felt the same way. The disappearance of Mass-Edit was very distracting at first, but I got used to it pretty quickly. There's no actual loss in functionality, just

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:40 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: I've enjoyed this discussion. Treble clef for tenors, with or without the 8, seems the most natural to me, because the voice range is similar to soprano, albeit an octave lower. But what about altos using treble clef? If anything, that

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Patrick Sheehan wrote: Someone mentioned that the Treble8 clef for tenors much like a transposing instrument. Correct! In this sense, the tenors are reading treble clef notes but what's coming out of their throat is an octave lower, plus they have to think that

Re: [Finale] attacca, segue

On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:43 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: Attacca literally means attacks (as in attack the next song immediately) This is an old post, but as I'm cleaning out my Finale mailbox I'd like to point out that attacca does NOT literally mean attack. Attaccare is to connect, to join. The

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

Raymond Horton wrote: I do recall a small publishing company (name forgotten) in the 1980's that put out some SATB church anthems printed with Treb,Treb,Bs,Bs clefs, and it WAS particularly easy to play those on piano (these particular anthems had conservative ranges, so the leger lines were not

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

Ryan wrote: I think part of the issue is that treble clef is used with the properties of the treble8. There's no distinction made between the two and the tenor voice is essentially treated as a transposing instrument (sounding an octave lower). That practice is used numerous times for solo tenor

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

Steve Larsen wrote: I'm not aware of any time or place that notated the tenor part in bass clef when using a separate staff. Agreed. I've seen a ton of opera and choral scores from 17th century to 20th, and I've never seen this. Choral tenors are combined with the basses in a bass clef when

Re: [Finale] ledger lines question

On Jun 16, 2011, at 4:45 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: on 2nds outside the staff, where the outermost note sits on a line, the ledger line for that note is shorter (length of one notehead plus L/R extensions) than for other ledger lines nearer to the staff (the width of two noteheads plus L/R

Re: [Finale] dialog box off screen

On Jun 1, 2011, at 4:20 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I am 95% certain that Mark's problem is that he's trying to use a set of preferences originally generated on a PPC Mac on an Intel-based Mac. Yes. That is indeed the case. The new machine does not have a smaller screen. There's no

[Finale] dialog box off screen

I've recently switched to a new computer (MacBook Pro). The re-install and copy of Finale preferences went pretty smoothly, except that today I discovered that my Edit System Margins dialog box won't appear. When I do Page Layout Systems Edit Margins it acts as if it's doing it, except the

Re: [Finale] Re: OT--low f's for altos?

On May 16, 2011, at 10:42 AM, John Howell wrote: Classical singers, voice teachers, and musicians in general take it as an article of faith that men's and women's voices are an octave apart, and in a lot of situations that works just fine. Another thought: Although I never really

[Finale] registration question

I finally replaced my eight-year-old PowerBook with a new MacBook. I still have a lot of software to reinstall, and in the meanwhile I'm running some stuff on the old machine. When I reinstall Finale on the new one, am I going to have any trouble having it registered on both at the same time?

Re: [Finale] Re: OT--low f's for altos?

On May 18, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I have noticed the OPPOSITE with untrained voices, though you are certainly right about trained classical voices. I suspect that Mark has the fortune to be working with better-trained choirs than the national median. I have had the

Re: [Finale] Re: OT--low f's for altos?

On May 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, John Howell wrote: The only problem I can see is that in a huge majority of standard choral repertoire, because of the imitation of lines between men's and women's voices, they ARE used with octave displacements. In ALL of the polyphonic choruses in Messiah,

Re: [Finale] Re: OT--low f's for altos?

On May 18, 2011, at 10:47 AM, John Howell wrote: I notice that the wording of some comments suggests that the SINGERS are making these choices. Of course that isn't true. It's the composer or arranger who makes these choices, and makes them on the same basis that's used when scoring for

Re: [Finale] Re: OT--low f's for altos?

I would concur. John's experience matches mine. Mine, too. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT--low f's for altos?

John Howell wrote: Sometimes it isn't a matter of being ASKED to sing tenor, but a matter of INSISTING on singing tenor. Yes, I've encountered plenty of that as well, including one woman whose voice really wasn't even all that low. She could easily sing soprano if she wanted to, but for

Re: [Finale] OT--low f's for altos?

I've known maybe 4 or 5 contrabass singers in my life (mostly in quartets, although one is in Chanticleer) who could hit low C2 or below acoustically, NOT through a mic and EQing. Gurney Bell of the Sportsmen Quartet back in the '50s regularly warmed up down to about a low G1 to be confident

Re: [Finale] OT--low f's for altos?

OK--as long as we're OT, does anyone have any information about low f's for choral altos? I noticed that Webern takes them down there (twice in the 6th movement of Cantata #2, opus 31), and also that Verdi has them bottom out at the g. In which cases is the f practical? I think in pretty much

Re: [Finale] OT--low f's for altos?

On May 12, 2011, at 7:01 PM, John Howell wrote: I'm kind of surprised that Verdi wrote down to the G3, since most of the lower opera roles are for mezzos, not real contraltos. I assume Aaron was talking about Verdi choral parts. Verdi often writes altos in women's chorus down to G3, but

Re: [Finale] OT--low f's for altos?

Another observation: In my experience with community choruses, it is not uncommon for the lowest-voiced women to be in the tenor section. Those type of choruses typically have plenty of altos and not enough tenors, so if a woman has a tone low enough to blend with men's and she doesn't

Re: [Finale] Forcing ties to previous note

I'm working on an orchestration with a coda, where the first note of the coda, an eighth note, needs to have a backward tie, as it is tied to a note 40 bars earlier before you jump to the coda. But because the bar before the coda is empty (the bar going back to the D.S.), attempting to force a

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?

On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:37 PM, gplw...@letterboxes.org gplw...@letterboxes.org wrote: Expletives deleted, isn't it time we moved beyond the egotistical false pride of insisting that expressions be in Italian? Or that dynamics be in abbreviated Italian with extended greater than or less

Re: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?

On Mar 26, 2011, at 6:20 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: Why is it that people get upset when Americans pronounce foreign names and words with Americanized pronunciations, yet I never read or hear of people getting upset at others, say the French, for pronouncing American names and words with

Re: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?

On Mar 24, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Regularization of foreign loan-words happens over time regardless of lexical category. Irregular forms have to be in frequent use and/ or have to signify status within a lexical community in order to be preserved -- which is why, for

Re: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?

The exact same reasoning is why we don't refer to pianos as piani, by the way. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati?

-Original Message- From: SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com Sent: Mar 24, 2011 2:32 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] [OT] plural of rubato = rubati? does this word actually exist? Technically, yes, it does exist. In Italian, rubato is an adjective, and if that

Re: [Finale] HELP! How do I make articulations appear ABOVE the staff in Rhythmic Notation?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 4:02 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: definition of 1 artic rather than 2. don't see how you can argue that that isn't great. It would be great if you could control placement, but you can't. If you have a single definition that might place above or below the note, then

Re: [Finale] HELP! How do I make articulations appear ABOVE the staff in Rhythmic Notation?

I use auto position articulations all the time on multi-voice staves, in which two parts share the same staff in the score but are extracted into individual parts. When you need different articulations in the parts (such as a divisi with rhythmically independent lines) you need them to appear on

Re: [Finale] HELP! How do I make articulations appear ABOVE the staff in Rhythmic Notation?

On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Ryan wrote: But on whole notes, the articulation is frequently placed above when the correct place is below. The default Fermata and tremolo (single, double, and triple slashes) articulations are the most common in my work. Can't you fix this by just flipping

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