Hi William,
I would not go as far to say the content is totally different from the
visual games. That is not completely true, but you are right that the
companies are less likely to see the game as a serious threat since it
has low market value to begin with, and it has no graphics so sighted
Hi Bryan,
Perhaps, but that information was never shared with me while transfering
the game. As I said the idea of a boss never occurred to me since I was
intending to clone the original to some greater degree.
My only question is if bosses were going to be so important why wait
until the last
Hi Phil,
That bites. In the words of Alanis Morissette,
And isn't it ironic... don't you think?
It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid.
It's the good advice that you just didn't take.
Who would've thought... it figures.
Phil Vlasak wrote:
Hi Tom,
I
hi
who is going to know whyd o you guys get so hung up on a game title,
the content is totally different than the visual games anyways
On 26 Nov 2007, at 17:48, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Phil,
That bites. In the words of Alanis Morissette,
And isn't it ironic... don't you think?
It's like
Hi Phil,
No, the USA Games version isn't pyramid shaped as was the maps you are
reading. I based mine on a virble descriptions of each of the levels and
attempted to duplicate it based on what was described to me. To make
things easier to program I made a 100 by 50 rectangle to place the game
Hi,
The only way that would have worked is if you got as many swords as
possible and ten killed the boss with a series of attacks. After 1.0
hits a web download near you I plan to go back in and look into adding
at least one boss for the game.
Shadow Dragon wrote:
Yeah, that's what I was
Hi Bryan,
Yeah, adding bosses at this very late date is pretty nasty business. I
don't think i will proceed with this until 1.0 is out the door and
making some sales. The game is pretty goood as it is without bosses.
Bryan wrote:
In that case I'd say don't do it. There's always updates later
Hi,
No kidding. One of the reasons I want to get Monte released is because
it is truly the easier game to finish first. Once it is out of the way
working on Raceway can be my primary focus.
william lomas wrote:
to be fair as well we have other games which we are waiting for such
as raceway
Hi Ryan,
Quote
The game's been altared enough from it's original version.. lol It's
nothing like
it's original intent. I don't see why it would hurt to change it some more.
End quote
That is sort of a yes and no. I do want to keep something of the
original game in place. However, I do have
Hi Bryan,
Right. Not only add on updates, but possably design a from scratch 2.0
version for sale that would go all out with new features, boss battles,
and whatever else people wanted but didn't get in 1.0.
Bryan wrote:
Because people have been waiting for the game for two years. I
:53:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Hi,
No kidding. One of the reasons I want to get Monte released is because
it is truly the easier game to finish first. Once it is out of the way
working on Raceway can be my primary focus.
william lomas wrote:
to be fair
Then go for it. That's my vote.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:57 AM
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Hi Bryan,
Right
is send error report dialog box. Did
I do something worng?
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date: 11/26/2007 1:53:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Hi,
No kidding. One of the reasons I want
Hi Charles,
Yes, one of the difficulties I have had to face. On one hand we have the
arcade purest who wants the game to match very closely to the original.
On the other hand we have the not so purest view who wants everything
new and different.
Obviously, in a case like this both views can't
Hi,
Well, that is where things begin to go wrong for a developer. You get
into this mind set of what will one more change do, then one more, one
more, and eventually the game is so different the original is absolutely
lost under a mountain of what will one more change matter thinking.
I wrote
Hi Phil,
Hmmm That wouldn't be too hard to introduce. One skull as sort of a
boss skull. That is interesting.
Phil Vlasak wrote:
Hi Tom,
I quite understand your having to stop game development to get the game
finished and ready to sell.
One suggestion for an upgrade so as not to
Hi Bryan,
Exactly. Murder isn't the word for it. One reason RPG games etc haven't
been too popular by the audio game developers is they just want to get a
game written and out to the customers in a timely fassion.
Imagine if it took me three or four years to write my Zelda clone. How
many
Hi Tom,
I just went to the Montezuma's Revenge wiki and found,
A new 3D game for the latest generation game engines has been developed by
Utopia Technologies, called Montezuma's Return, which is also the title of a
2D version for the Game Boy Color.
I loved your new game name but it looks like
be
problematic from a programmer's perspective.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Hi Phil
Hi,
In this instance both are going to be problematic because I had no
bosses scheduled so the monsters don't have triditional HP values. All
the if statements check for is weather you have a sword and if monster x
is in range. If that is true kill it. In order to add any bosses, even
one, I
I checked out another site for Revenge,
The game has nine different levels, each consisting of 100 screens,
organized as a pyramid with a base 19 screens wide and with 10 screens
height (although the topmost screen is the title screen of the game, and you
cannot control Panama Joe when he is in
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. That's what gave me the idea for having
boss fights in the game in the first place. I'm really curious to see how he
would have made that work since swords were one time use and most other
weapons in the game were the same.
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Hi,
In this instance both are going to be problematic because I had no
bosses scheduled so the monsters don't have triditional HP values. All
the if statements check for is weather you have a sword and if monster x
is in range. If that is true
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
This would be a detraction from the original, losing some of the flavor
and
appeal of the purist from the game.
The game's been altared enough from it's original version.. lol It's
, November 25, 2007 1:42 PM
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This would be a detraction from the original, losing some of the
flavor
and
appeal of the purist from the game.
The game's been altared enough from it's original version.. lol It's
nothing like it's original intent
One more change will introduce more time. That is what Tom wants to avoid.
Shadow Dragon wrote:
But that's the point. We've already made so many changes, what's one more
change going to hurt? I mean the game is far, far from being the classic
game it was, its got modernized sounds, its got
and this is Jason known as Blind Fury
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Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:09 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Montezuma's Revenge News
Hello gamers,
USA Games Interactive
Hi Tom,
Since you are changing the name to Montezuma's Return,
this implies that Montezuma will be in part of the game.
Is he going to be a sort of boss level baddy?
If not, you could call the game,
Montezuma's Tomb Robbers Return.
Or,
Montezuma's Temple Raiders Return.
Of course, if one of the
I really like the idea of having some kind of boss level at the end of the
temples here. It'd more than likely make me consider buying the game. If
you're making so many changes, any chance you could put in a few bosses,
like a giant rolling skull that you'd have to defeat somehow, maybe giant
] Montezuma's Revenge News
I really like the idea of having some kind of boss level at the end of the
temples here. It'd more than likely make me consider buying the game. If
you're making so many changes, any chance you could put in a few bosses,
like a giant rolling skull that you'd have to defeat
Hi Phil,
Well, at this point probably not. I have already closed down new
developments to the engine and am working on finalisation of the game.
Since the original classic game did not have bosses I had not made plans
for any, and I'd have to reopen the engine development which could push
the
Hi Shadow,
I understand what you are saying, but I can't simply intruduce this
feature into the game before 1.0. I have tentatively scheduled the
release date as December 15, 2007. However, the actual release date
could be a few days earlier or later depending on any issues encountered
or
, *grin*. Ah well.
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:16 PM
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This would be a detraction from the original, losing some of the flavor
Yeah, I figured as much. It'd be cool if they went in eventually, I'd expect
it'd take quite some time to make bosses for each level, or every 3 levels
or whatever. It'd be a cool implementation but I understand where you're
coming from. *shrug* I just hope you decide to do it eventually. It'd
be
considered the boss scull.
Hope you get many Christmas sales of the MR game.
Phil
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:55 PM
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Hi Phil
Hi,
Developing bosses etc would take quite a bit of rnd which I really don't
have time for at this moment. I can say though one game I have strongly
considered is something similar to the megaman series powered by the
Monte engine.
in such a case then there certainly would be bosses on each
: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:01 PM
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Hi,
Developing bosses etc would take quite a bit of rnd which I really don't
have time for at this moment. I can say though one game I have strongly
considered is something similar to the megaman series
: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Yeah. I'm a little curious about how James was planning to work the tomb
guardian battle at the end of the game he was making. Did you ever get any
details on that? A megaman game or something along those lines would be
cool, but I think it'd be cooler to see
Yeah, probably. If I had the patience for anything programming related I'd
try some of this stuff myself, but I have no real patience for that sort of
thing, plus I'm of the mind that if you make a game, especially a plot
oriented game like Zelda, then what fun is it to play? *shrug* Guess
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Hi,
Yeah, I have tried hard to improve upon James North's games. I have
spent allot of extra time gathering better
Hi Jason,
Microsoft DirectX is a set of multimedia libraries for Windows based
applications for drawing graphics, playing sound, accessing input
devices, etc... As of version 9.0 and later DirectX has been designed to
operate with .NET enabled applications, and Microsoft is slowly fasing
out
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Hi Michael,
I respect your opinions, but I do have some trouble understanding why
just because a game
Hi Shaun,
That is right. Keep in mind also most of our developers don't have B.S.
degrees or Master degrees in computer science and programming. They
simply don't have the skill of those big time developers. They may be
good at what they do, but still don't have the training and skill such
as
Hi,
Yep. Carly Simon had the perfect song for them, your so vain.
I have no idea where this attitude of old is bad comes from with people
of my generation and younger, but it is totally illogical as Mr. Spock
would say.
After all Lord of the Rings was written before most of those on this
list
you have to remember that yours just like others that have pre paid
for those two games, was under a different company. that company made
a point to do things like that, and all it got them was bad news and grief.
now under a new company. They have to be given time to redo what
don't work and
Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:53 PM
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The game is still popular because it is what a game is supposed to be.
FUN
TO PLAY! The same can be said for why a band out of the early
Hi,
Yeah, I have tried hard to improve upon James North's games. I have
spent allot of extra time gathering better sound effects, editing,
recording new ones, not to mention rewriting both games from scratch to
support newer and better technologies such as the .NET Framework which
is the
list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:22 PM
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I am disappointed Thomas you have chosen to go to a old game instead of
making a game modern.
If I wanted to play a game from the 70's I would have kept the game from
back then. We
Hi Michael,
I respect your opinions, but I do have some trouble understanding why
just because a game is old to sighted people why does it have to be old
and boring to many blind users that never had a first chance to play?
This kind of reminds me of my college dorm mates first reaction when
: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Here we go again. Do you see the point that a game is new to the blind
gaming community if that blind community hasn't ever played it before?
Why
care if the game is out of the fifteen hundreds? Chess is, and it's still
being played worldwide. This puts
Hi Dark,
Agreed. Simply saying that someone does or does not like something
isn't just enough to sway a developer from his or her course. We would
like reasons backed up with concrete examples of why side-scrollers are
less desirable than an ultra modern FPS game. Is the reasoning have to
do
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:22 AM
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Hi List:
Everyone has a right to a opinion. I personally don't look forward to the
dark ages but at the same time I fully appreciate and respect for those
Thomas:
I thank you so much time for your response. I greatly appreciate the time
you took to respond.
As you said interests change and maybe since I most my vision not to long
ago maybe my interest have moved ahead.
I, as said before, will try the game and maybe will be surprised with how
much
I am sure tom is doing his best.
On a side note, I think once a game switches from dev to dev and its still
under development, that dev shouldn't incur the wrath from users over time on
the project that he didn't have, ie the time the other dev has spent on the
project in question shouldn't be
well we all learned the hard way what was best and what plainly sucked.
Read my last message I posted about the time reset thing.
If a game in development switches devs then the time that the last dev put in
the game shouldn't count against the other dev's time.
I know from you tom that the
Lets face it though, we are just starting.
Sighted stuff is way ahead of our stuff.
We have only just started the dotnet course of games.
There are still a few of us that use vb6, and autoit, or have just dropped said
older things.
We have only just started multiplayer support.
We have only just
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:31 AM
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Hi Dark,
Agreed. Simply saying that someone does or does not like something
isn't just enough to sway a developer from his or her course. We would
like reasons backed up
Montezuma's Revenge News
3/22/2007
by Thomas Ward
Hello gamers,
A couple of weeks ago we mentioned that we would be putting out a demo
sometime in the month of April. However, some very recent discussions
with the test team have revealed a desire to make Montezuma's Revenge as
close as
for Monti, so that people who've bought the game could design their own
levels. That would be fantastic!
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Montezuma's
,
Tom
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:08 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Montezuma's Revenge News
3/22/2007
by Thomas Ward
Hello gamers,
A couple
Hi Tom,
From this I assume you have a description of the layout of the original
levels of MR.
Did you get them off the Internet or do you have the game?
Will there be a change in how many levels you will produce?
I think the actual maps will make the game more interesting for those who
have
the best,
Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:08 PM
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Hi Dark,
Quote
For example, the maze in Packman talks I believe
Hi Phil,
Yeah, I have a written description of the Monty level maps, but I still
may have to improvise in a few places. For example, the sighted folks
that wrote them up were mainly concerned in directing new players where
to pick up keys, gems, and other items, where to avoid skulls, and
Hi Dark,
Yes, the save feature is a major part of the game core, and has been for
quite a long time. I have no intention of taking it out, and it has
aided in the resolution of many bugs.
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I am disappointed Thomas you have chosen to go to a old game instead of
making a game modern.
If I wanted to play a game from the 70's I would have kept the game from
back then. We have so many old fashioned games already and now I feel in my
own personal opinion is taking 200 steps backwards.
am
pointing out? Thanks.
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I am disappointed Thomas you have chosen to go to a old game
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From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:20 PM
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Here we go again. Do you see the point that a game is new to the blind
gaming community if that blind
updates
on the progress.
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:29 PM
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I actually understand what Michael means. I think it would be really cool
Michael. May I suggest you please take the following points under
considderation:
1: For many blind people, the option simply does not exist to go and play
the original game because it is a completely graphical game. For this
reason alone, making an audio version which will be accessible to
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:52 PM
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Michael. May I suggest you please take the following points under
considderation:
1: For many blind people, the option
, March 22, 2007 9:53 PM
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He's complaining that the game is old, though. And for the blind gaming
community, it is not. I don't like the setbacks, either, as I am one of
those early purchasers of games that I have not received, but I'm willing
be
what breaks down barriers and that kind of thing is always of great value.
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:53 PM
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He's complaining
.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 3:03 AM
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in all fairness, I'm extremely apreciative of the fact that Tom constantly
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:59 AM
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Maybe he can see this flaw: The Bible should not be reproduced in braille
or in audio format. Why? Well, heck, the King James Bible has a
copyright
of, I think, 1611. Dang, that's an old book, so why
PM
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I am disappointed Thomas you have chosen to go to a old game instead of
making a game modern.
If I wanted to play a game from the 70's I would have kept the game from
back then. We have so many old fashioned games already and now I feel in my
own
pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go.
J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas
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From: Michael Maslo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
I am
Hi Ian,
I can't promise you a time for the full release, but I am working on a
trailer right now. I hope to have it posted sometime before the day is
out. Stay tuned for updates as I get it packaged, and put on my web site.
ian and riggs wrote:
hi tom monty sounds like it is going to be a
Hello gamers,
First, I'd like to start by clearing up a bit of confusion I made during
my future of USA Games inquiry. Montezuma's Revenge is well on schedule,
and I was not, nor am I planning on disrupting the development of
Montezuma Revenge by switching programming languages mid development.
]
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:05 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News.
Hello gamers,
First, I'd like to start by clearing up a bit of confusion I made during
my future of USA Games inquiry. Montezuma's Revenge is well on schedule,
and I was not, nor am I planning
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Montezuma's Revenge News
Montezuma's Revenge News
Dec. 11, 2006
Hi all,
With STFC 1.0 now released we have had more time to work directly on
Montezuma's Revenge. As many of you know we
Montezuma's Revenge News
Dec. 11, 2006
Hi all,
With STFC 1.0 now released we have had more time to work directly on
Montezuma's Revenge. As many of you know we released a trailer sometime
last week which showed off a bit of Montezuma's Revenge Alpha 2. As it
happens there have been many new
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