Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
I will admit that I really don't like copywright law. It's really odd
and so convoluted that most lawyers don't get it.
still, I think it makes sense, in the sense that there's a specific
and definite impetus for the games that can be pointed to, without
paying
Hi,
Well, that's certainly true. Especially, if you want to delve into the
matter of international copyright laws which is extremely messy and
convoluted.
For instance, lets take the matter of the GPL, GNU General Public
License Agreement, which tries to keep certain software open and
available
I doubt it makes sense to anyone, common or lawyer-ish. It's barely
recognizable as written word. I think, perhaps, the only folk who
could make heads or tails of it in a complete manner are likely
buzzed on something or other, and they probably had a lot of
experience with puzzle-driven
: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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Hi Alex,
Precisely. I feel that these games are way below my current standard now
on
these?
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Hi Alex,
Precisely. I feel
Of Damien Pendleton
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Hi Alex,
Precisely. I feel that these games are way below my current standard now,
especially as regards bugs. So it's simple. I either recreate Danger City on
popular demand
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I actually beat Redemption, believe it or not. I think Self Destruct is
better. At least
than the expected
imput.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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I actually beat
any cheats.
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without
any cheats.
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Hi Dakotah,
OK, let's take your arguments one by one and put them into perspective.
1. Once a developer claims a game, that game is the responsibility of the
developer.
That is very true, and is precisely the reason I do not want it
redistributed. Since I still retain copyright on the games, in
the rights to
somebody else.
Regards,
Damien.
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I'm not a developer, but I think
, it does for me
anyway without any cheats.
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Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:25 AM
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I just wanna say I totally agree. Actually, x-sight has done it
before with some programs written ages ago like dectalk
dangercity is bad because it was not finnished and has no replay value.
the mines are a bit of a pain to etc but otherwise its ok.
At 09:25 p.m. 17/04/2011, you wrote:
Hi Dakotah,
OK, let's take your arguments one by one and put them into perspective.
1. Once a developer claims a game, that game
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dangercity is bad because it was not finnished and has no replay value.
the mines are a bit of a pain to etc but otherwise its ok.
At 09:25 p.m. 17
I think many people full stop don't bother to read the documentation,
be they blind or sighted.
At 04:50 AM 4/17/2011, you wrote:
I'm not a developer, but I think there is a reason why a developer
would choose not to allow older programs to be redistributed.
As Damien has previously mentioned,
: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
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Hi Damien,
Yeah, I actually do see your point. It is for that very reason,
interesting enough, why I had never put up all of the PB
, 2011 1:55 AM
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Oh, I dunno about that. There' just something about going up to that jerk
and throwing him, then running up to him before he hits the ground and
throwing him again. Also, while it's true you can't play often, once a
year or so
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Oh, I dunno about that. There' just something about going up to that jerk
and throwing him, then running up to him before he
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I actually beat Redemption, believe it or not. I think Self Destruct is
better. At least when I played
Hi Damien,
Personally, I think that is a good compromise. You don't have to keep
or update Danger City to get the same level of action or to create a
game with equal or better game play elements. Look at MOTA as an
example.
Truth be told I'd love to write an authentic Tomb Raider game complete
Hi Hayden and all,
I think there is more to it than that. For a developer its not so cut
and dry. There are other issues to consider besides just throwing it
up there and letting people download game x with or without support.
For example, it costs us money to purchase extra drive space on a web
Hi Ken,
Yeah, I don't quite get that part either. Even though I'm hosting the
DanZ Games, PB Games, etc I don't exactly have a polacy of nobody else
can redistribute them. Its not like I own them exactly and I consider
them shareware for all. I think Damien should do the same for Danger
City,
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Hi Ken,
Yeah, I don't quite get that part either. Even though I'm hosting the
DanZ Games, PB Games, etc I don't exactly have a polacy of nobody else
can
Hi Damien,
Yeah, I actually do see your point. It is for that very reason,
interesting enough, why I had never put up all of the PB Games, etc. I
personally feel something like Snowball War is simply not worth
hosting, but I've been asked time and time again to host it for one
reason or another
: Saturday, April 16, 2011 6:30 PM
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Hi Damien,
Yeah, I actually do see your point. It is for that very reason,
interesting enough, why I had never put up all of the PB Games, etc. I
personally feel something like Snowball War
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Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:06 AM
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Hi Hayden and all,
I think there is more to it than that. For a developer
Hi Hayden,
The problem with the Savage Gambit is the keyboard commands. To me
they don't make a lot of sense. I always press the wrong key or forget
what does what. What I meant by difficult is that its not intuitive.
However, on the other hand, as a plus, it does require practice to get
good at
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 5:56 PM
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Hi Thomas,
You find that one difficult? I haven't had too much trouble; I've made it
all the way to the final fight on redemption but am now stuck.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:15 PM
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Hi Hayden,
The problem with the Savage Gambit is the keyboard commands. To me
they don't make a lot of sense. I always press the wrong key or forget
what does what. What I meant by difficult
I'm not a developer, but I think there is a reason why a developer
would choose not to allow older programs to be redistributed.
As Damien has previously mentioned, these older titles were written in
a deprecated language by amateur developers. The code is difficult to
read, update, compile and
-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 PM
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well I still use timer 1.0 which is quite old I wouldn't mind that
maintained or put into something
Hi all,
Due to our aim in bringing you quality audiogames and software, we have found
it necessary to discontinue support for old titles. Games such as Self
Destruct, Acefire, Danger City and the Savage Gamut are no longer being
maintained or supported, while Giftanum will shortly be offered
well as long as they stay up for those to enjoy I don't mind.
though I aggree with you I don't even play acefire these days.
At 11:12 p.m. 14/04/2011, you wrote:
Hi all,
Due to our aim in bringing you quality audiogames and software, we
have found it necessary to discontinue support for old
this is seriusly wrong. this is, if I'm not mistaking, a 3rd x-sight, or
more like, x-depressing, whipeout. fail.
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that are only going to continue to be free and substandard anyway.
Regards,
Damien.
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this is seriusly wrong. this is, if I'm not mistaking, a 3rd x-sight, or
more like, x-depressing, whipeout. fail.
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been done with pb-games.
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From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 6:10 PM
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Hi Pitermach,
I'm sorry you feel inclined to believe us
arrangements with me.
Regards,
Damien.
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From: Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:24 PM
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Well, I got way too emotional that last message. Lol!
I don't
Hi Damien,
Well, as a software developer and gamer myself I think you are doing
the right thing. As you correctly pointed out Visual Basic 6 is an
extremely old development platform and language and for those of us
who have already made the transition to Windows 7, especially those
running newer
Hi Pitr,
I don't think that is very fair. This has nothing to do with X-Sight
being a failure, or that Damien is in someway a poor developer. What
Damien is doing makes perfect sense to me, and as a developer I
understand completely where he is coming from on this matter.
What a lot of you guys
:10 PM
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Hi Pitermach,
I'm sorry you feel inclined to believe us a failure. Obviously I
cannot change your views on the subject. However if you feel the
games are worth the maintenance, contact me offlist and I can
certainly make arrangements with you so
not to mention that bgt will always stay current.
And in most cases the code will stay the same anything in the
background will just need another upgraded engine.
Hi Damien,
Well, as a software developer and gamer myself I think you are doing
the right thing. As you correctly pointed out
Hi Shaun,
Yeah, one would hope BGT will stay current for the long hall. Still
even if not once Philip makes some upgrades like adding XAudio2
support and things like that which he is adding now any games written
with it will be pretty up to date for at least the next 5 years or so
for sure. We
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