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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
I will admit that I really don't like copywright law. It's really odd
and so convoluted that most lawyers don't get it.
still, I think it makes sense, in the sense that there's a specific
and definite impetus for the games t
I doubt it makes sense to anyone, common or lawyer-ish. It's barely
recognizable as written word. I think, perhaps, the only folk who
could make heads or tails of it in a complete manner are likely
buzzed on something or other, and they probably had a lot of
experience with puzzle-driven Interacti
Hi,
Well, that's certainly true. Especially, if you want to delve into the
matter of international copyright laws which is extremely messy and
convoluted.
For instance, lets take the matter of the GPL, GNU General Public
License Agreement, which tries to keep certain software open and
available t
ot; on those. So why do we have to have a copyright on
>> these?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Hayden
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of Damien Pendleton
>>
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> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of Damien Pendleton
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
>
> Hi Alex,
> Precis
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Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Hi Alex,
Precisely. I feel that these games are way below my current standard now,
especially as regards bugs. So it's simple. I either recreate Dan
edemption, believe it or not. I think Self Destruct is
>>better. At least when I played that I didn't feel like I was playing yet
>>another Bop it game. I like Bop It, but not for a boxing game.
>>Ken Downey
>>The Addictor
>>www.TheAddictor.com
>>
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:39 PM
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I actually beat Redemption, believe it or not. I think Self Destruct is
be
Hi Damien,
Personally, I think that is a good compromise. You don't have to keep
or update Danger City to get the same level of action or to create a
game with equal or better game play elements. Look at MOTA as an
example.
Truth be told I'd love to write an authentic Tomb Raider game complete
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I actually beat Redemption, believe it or not. I think Self Destruct is
better. At leas
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Oh, I dunno about that. There' just something about going up to that jerk
and throwing him, then running up t
2011 1:55 AM
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Oh, I dunno about that. There' just something about going up to that jerk
and throwing him, then running up to him before he hits the ground and
throwing him again. Also, while it's true you can't play often, once a
year or so i
he whole though, if
Battle Zone had some bombs and you could throw people, I probably wouldn't
touch Danger City.
Ken Downey
The Addictor
www.TheAddictor.com
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From: "shaun everiss"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 6:
somebody say it wasn't
worth distributing any more.
Ken Downey
The Addictor
www.TheAddictor.com
- Original Message -
From: "Dakotah Rickard"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Listen
From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Hi Damien,
Yeah, I actually do see your point. It is for that very reason,
interesting enough, why I had never put up all of the PB Games, etc. I
I think many people full stop don't bother to read the documentation,
be they blind or sighted.
At 04:50 AM 4/17/2011, you wrote:
I'm not a developer, but I think there is a reason why a developer
would choose not to allow older programs to be redistributed.
As Damien has previously mentioned,
...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:18 AM
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dangercity is bad because it was not finnished and has no replay value.
the mines are a bit of a pain to etc but otherwise its ok.
At 09:25 p.m. 17
dangercity is bad because it was not finnished and has no replay value.
the mines are a bit of a pain to etc but otherwise its ok.
At 09:25 p.m. 17/04/2011, you wrote:
Hi Dakotah,
OK, let's take your arguments one by one and put them into perspective.
1. Once a developer claims a game, that game
ginal Message - From: "Pitermach"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
I just wanna say I totally agree. Actually, x-sight has done it
before with some programs written ages ago like dectalk scripter
a
ive you quite a challenge Well, it does for me
anyway without any cheats.
- Original Message - From: "Dakotah Rickard"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
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nsfer the rights to
somebody else.
Regards,
Damien.
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From: "Alex Kenny"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
I'm not a developer, but I think there is a reason wh
Hi Dakotah,
OK, let's take your arguments one by one and put them into perspective.
1. Once a developer claims a game, that game is the responsibility of the
developer.
That is very true, and is precisely the reason I do not want it
redistributed. Since I still retain copyright on the games, in
software, but when I took those older
titles down I did say that they were still on our list.
Regards,
Damien.
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From: "Pitermach"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
I just
or me anyway without
any cheats.
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From: "Dakotah Rickard"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
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Listen. I'm not a developer yet, and I say yet because I'm working
right now on learning Java, as I think it'll be a long-haul language.
I completely understand the complaints on both sides here, but the
issue is actually a simple one, and I'll say it as many times as I
have to, because I've said i
I'm not a developer, but I think there is a reason why a developer
would choose not to allow older programs to be redistributed.
As Damien has previously mentioned, these older titles were written in
a deprecated language by amateur developers. The code is difficult to
read, update, compile and ru
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:15 PM
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Hi Hayden,
The problem with the Savage Gambit is the keyboard commands. To me
they don't make a lot of sense. I always press the wrong key or forget
what does what. What I meant by difficult is that its not in
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Hi Thomas,
You find that one difficult? I haven't had too much trouble; I've made it
all the way to the final fight on redemption but am now stuck.
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
Fro
Hi Hayden,
The problem with the Savage Gambit is the keyboard commands. To me
they don't make a lot of sense. I always press the wrong key or forget
what does what. What I meant by difficult is that its not intuitive.
However, on the other hand, as a plus, it does require practice to get
good at p
Ken Downey
The Addictor
www.TheAddictor.com
- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Hi Hayden and all,
I think there is more to it than that. For a deve
Ward
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 6:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Hi Damien,
Yeah, I actually do see your point. It is for that very reason,
interesting enough, why I had never put up all of the PB Games, etc. I
personally feel something like Snowb
Hi Damien,
Yeah, I actually do see your point. It is for that very reason,
interesting enough, why I had never put up all of the PB Games, etc. I
personally feel something like Snowball War is simply not worth
hosting, but I've been asked time and time again to host it for one
reason or another so
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Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:51 PM
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Hi Ken,
Yeah, I don't quite get that part either. Even though I'm hosting the
DanZ Games, PB Games, etc I don't exactly have a polacy of nobody else
can redistr
Hi Ken,
Yeah, I don't quite get that part either. Even though I'm hosting the
DanZ Games, PB Games, etc I don't exactly have a polacy of nobody else
can redistribute them. Its not like I own them exactly and I consider
them shareware for all. I think Damien should do the same for Danger
City, Sav
ow they're his games, that
he purchased them, but I don't see a reason for that.
Ken Downey
The Addictor
www.TheAddictor.com
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audys
Hi Hayden and all,
I think there is more to it than that. For a developer its not so cut
and dry. There are other issues to consider besides just throwing it
up there and letting people download game x with or without support.
For example, it costs us money to purchase extra drive space on a web
-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
well I still use timer 1.0 which is quite old I wouldn't mind that
maintained or put into some
Hi Shaun,
Yeah, one would hope BGT will stay current for the long hall. Still
even if not once Philip makes some upgrades like adding XAudio2
support and things like that which he is adding now any games written
with it will be pretty up to date for at least the next 5 years or so
for sure. We alr
not to mention that bgt will always stay current.
And in most cases the code will stay the same anything in the
background will just need another upgraded engine.
Hi Damien,
Well, as a software developer and gamer myself I think you are doing
the right thing. As you correctly pointed out Visu
velop new titles rather than splashing out
on old titles that are only going to continue to be free and
substandard anyway.
Regards,
Damien.
- Original Message - From: "Pitermach"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audy
Hi Pitr,
I don't think that is very fair. This has nothing to do with X-Sight
being a failure, or that Damien is in someway a poor developer. What
Damien is doing makes perfect sense to me, and as a developer I
understand completely where he is coming from on this matter.
What a lot of you guys t
Hi Damien,
Well, as a software developer and gamer myself I think you are doing
the right thing. As you correctly pointed out Visual Basic 6 is an
extremely old development platform and language and for those of us
who have already made the transition to Windows 7, especially those
running newer 6
riate arrangements with me.
Regards,
Damien.
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From: "Pitermach"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Well, I got way too emotional that last message. Lol!
I don't co
just like it's been done with pb-games.
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From: "Damien Pendleton"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
Hi Pitermach,
I'm sorry you feel inclined to believe
oney
> and resources to develop new titles rather than splashing out on old titles
> that are only going to continue to be free and substandard anyway.
> Regards,
> Damien.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Pitermach"
> To: "Gamers Discussion list
itles
that are only going to continue to be free and substandard anyway.
Regards,
Damien.
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From: "Pitermach"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
this is seriusly w
this is seriusly wrong. this is, if I'm not mistaking, a 3rd x-sight, or
more like, x-depressing, whipeout. fail.
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well as long as they stay up for those to enjoy I don't mind.
though I aggree with you I don't even play acefire these days.
At 11:12 p.m. 14/04/2011, you wrote:
Hi all,
Due to our aim in bringing you quality audiogames and software, we
have found it necessary to discontinue support for old tit
Hi all,
Due to our aim in bringing you quality audiogames and software, we have found
it necessary to discontinue support for old titles. Games such as Self
Destruct, Acefire, Danger City and the Savage Gamut are no longer being
maintained or supported, while Giftanum will shortly be offered for
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