Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-08 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Thomas,
Yeah; that was my question, why he even gave ESP to Josh.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Hi,

Actually, James North had to start a new company because when he
originally left in 2001 he turned all rights of ESP Softworks over to
Josh who ran Adora Entertainment/Draconis Entertainment now. Which was
no big deal. When he came back in 2004 he simply got a new website,
and named his new venture Alchemy Game Studios. It didn't really
matter in the long term if he kept the original ESP trademark or not
since by then all of us thought of ESP as Adora Entertainment.

That's why when I took over ESP Raceway I changed it to USA Raceway.
Although, I'm sure Josh would have willingly allowed me to use the ESP
trademark I felt it was better in the long run not to use a trademark
of another game company when it was easily changed. I didn't need the
ESP trademark to write the game. In fact, in a way my version of
Raceway is quite a bit different than the ESP Raceway that was
preordered by early customers of the product from James North. So that
helps distinguish the difference as well.

Cheers!


On 3/7/11, Hayden Presley  wrote:
> Hi,
> Someone explain to mewhy James needed to start Alchemy Games? That's
> something I've wondered for awhile; I'd think he could've just continued
> ESP.
>
> Best Regards,
> Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Actually, James North had to start a new company because when he
originally left in 2001 he turned all rights of ESP Softworks over to
Josh who ran Adora Entertainment/Draconis Entertainment now. Which was
no big deal. When he came back in 2004 he simply got a new website,
and named his new venture Alchemy Game Studios. It didn't really
matter in the long term if he kept the original ESP trademark or not
since by then all of us thought of ESP as Adora Entertainment.

That's why when I took over ESP Raceway I changed it to USA Raceway.
Although, I'm sure Josh would have willingly allowed me to use the ESP
trademark I felt it was better in the long run not to use a trademark
of another game company when it was easily changed. I didn't need the
ESP trademark to write the game. In fact, in a way my version of
Raceway is quite a bit different than the ESP Raceway that was
preordered by early customers of the product from James North. So that
helps distinguish the difference as well.

Cheers!


On 3/7/11, Hayden Presley  wrote:
> Hi,
> Someone explain to mewhy James needed to start Alchemy Games? That's
> something I've wondered for awhile; I'd think he could've just continued
> ESP.
>
> Best Regards,
> Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-07 Thread Bryan Peterson

Because he wanted to go his own way at the time.
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Hi,
Someone explain to mewhy James needed to start Alchemy Games? That's
something I've wondered for awhile; I'd think he could've just continued
ESP.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were
the ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site.
James left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off
the ground it seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and
now is draconis.

At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:

Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or
something. and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?
Original message:
If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind 
gamers

who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we

still
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since 
he

dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received

from

a number of blind people.



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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
Jack



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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-07 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Someone explain to mewhy James needed to start Alchemy Games? That's
something I've wondered for awhile; I'd think he could've just continued
ESP.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:15 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were 
the ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site. 
James left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off 
the ground it seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and 
now is draconis.

At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
>Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or 
>something. and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?
>Original message:
>>If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind gamers
>>who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we
still
>>play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since he
>>dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received
from
>>a number of blind people.
>
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>>heart.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Jack F" 
>>To: "gamers" 
>>Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
>>Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic
>
>
>>>Hi Lori,
>>>I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
>>>all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
>>>your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
>>>wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
>>>Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
>>>wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
>>>so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
>>>want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
>>>apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
>>>about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
>>>destruct.
>>>best regards,
>>>Jack
>
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-07 Thread Charles Rivard
Sound like a heck of a lot more than a few hours, days, weeks, months and 
more of work.  (grin)


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Hi Dark,

Well, there is a good reason for that. I've talked to Josh off and on
about what Draconis is up to, and I'm not really at liberty to discuss
anything more than he has already told the list. However, the most I
can say is that Draconis is in the process of writing a cross-platform
game engine for Mac OS X and Windows, and they have plans to
eventually port all or at least most of their games from Visual Basic
to C++. That's a big reason why we haven't heard or seen anything new
from them. That said, I hope nobody reads this and then begins
bombarding their inboxes asking for more information as they won't get
any. Draconis has their own time table, and will release all the
upgraded games if and when they are ready. Anyway, to make a long
explaination short they haven't time to write anything new that I am
aware of, and since they have officially dropped Visual Basic 6 they
are not going to continue building Pinball Party Packs etc using that
language. Future Pinball Party Packs will probably come once Pinball
Extreme has been ported to C++. That's what I am given to understand.

Cheers!


On 3/6/11, dark  wrote:

Thanks tom.

Shame they haven't developed more titles really, including more pinball
packs.

i sort of got the idea pinball party pack was the first of a few, but 
we've

not seen anymore yet.

Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Yeah, I know. I haven't even heard from Josh over the passed year
either. I would have thought they would have had something ready by
now. The mentioned the cross-platform engine clear back in 2009, and
we haven't seen anything. The closest thing I have got in news is Cara
mentioned a couple of times she is helping Draconis with a couple of
projects, but she wouldn't say what they were specifically. Only that
they have something in the works.

On 3/7/11, dark  wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> thanks for the info. I know that josh said something of this sort about two
> years ago, but we haven't heard anything sinse, which was my concern.
>
> I'll look forward to the point that all the behind the scenes work is done
> and they can get back to writing more games again.
>
> While I understand from a stability and compatibility perspective this is a
> worthwhile thing to do, in terms of practically playing games it does mean a
> bit of a wait.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-07 Thread Lelia Struve
I just wish that the Draconis folk would come on out here and give a 
shout hey!!! so we can tell them what a great job there doing.

Original message:

Hi Tom.



thanks for the info. I know that josh said something of this sort about two
years ago, but we haven't heard anything sinse, which was my concern.



I'll look forward to the point that all the behind the scenes work is done
and they can get back to writing more games again.



While I understand from a stability and compatibility perspective this is a
worthwhile thing to do, in terms of practically playing games it does mean a
bit of a wait.



Beware the grue!



Dark.




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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-07 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

thanks for the info. I know that josh said something of this sort about two 
years ago, but we haven't heard anything sinse, which was my concern.


I'll look forward to the point that all the behind the scenes work is done 
and they can get back to writing more games again.


While I understand from a stability and compatibility perspective this is a 
worthwhile thing to do, in terms of practically playing games it does mean a 
bit of a wait.


Beware the grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Michael Gauler

I can understand that it is not good to pressure any developer of any game.
But as far as I remember, most of the things with James North happened 
behind the scenes, so to speak.
When the original (his) monti was announced I liked it and when the demo 
came out, I wanted to try it. There were issues with it of course, but since 
I knew that it would take a while for the final release to come out, I 
thought it is best to wait and see.
Imagine, how much I actually was confused when the chaos broke out in the 
audiogames.net forum when it was discovered that he (James North) was done 
with the original Monti.
I don't like it one bit if people want to make me do something quickly, just 
because they want something faster. And I also don't like people who do 
cause developers to go never to return.
James North's Monti (full version) was supposed to ship on CD, which many 
audio games do not and it was supposed to have any kind of level editor 
which was meant to be made available for the users.
I don't know how many members of this community know it, but allowing 
modifications and providing gamers the means to do so, is part of many a 
mainstream game. All Quake games and all of the Doom series are and where 
prime examples of that.
The only games that are like games of that genre that come to my mind are 
Shades of Doom, the Sarah game and maybe Monkey Business, since it is a 3d 
game as well.
But none of them is or was a game to be modified in any way by non 
developers up to now.
OK, most of theese games are smaller in comparison to their mainstream 
counterparts, and mainstream developers do invest more ressources in 
developing games, because they have more ressources and await more sales 
than audio games get sold, but that's not to say that we don't have to be 
less creative, but that can only be achived, if we don't loose the few 
developers, we have, since our market is significantly smaller... 




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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Michael Gauler

Hi Tomas,
interesting to get such information at all.
I am not one to bugger people for doing things faster and I can life with 
nearly no information about future new titles. But, Draconis have a website 
and at least two years worth of not even telling "hey, we are still alive" 
news on their site.
And of course there is the matter of the Bowling game. As this list and you 
probably are aware, any Windows XP user is forced to use v1.1.0 of the game, 
because the now downloadable 1.2.0 release causes a run-time error on the 
moment of launch, regardless of it being registered or not.
And there were reports of a Monkey Business level being missing or at least 
misplaced in their file structure. While the Monkey Business thing might be 
fixed easily, I don't know what causes the TPA file to crash, but the 1.2. 
update was ment for making the game usable and compatible with Windows Vista 
at that time. There are accounts of the game being usable on Vista and 
Windows 7, but on nothing older than thoose two, which is a problem worth 
fixing, I say.
If they are taking care of it while doing a full scale change of their code 
base, then all is fine, but since we are talking about some rather long 
known problems here, a bit of info at least of my two mentioned errors on 
their part would be really apreciated, since several German players asked me 
to provide them the 1.1 release of TPA (installer, no keys of course, since 
that's illegal and because I haven't bought the game yet). 




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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, there is a good reason for that. I've talked to Josh off and on
about what Draconis is up to, and I'm not really at liberty to discuss
anything more than he has already told the list. However, the most I
can say is that Draconis is in the process of writing a cross-platform
game engine for Mac OS X and Windows, and they have plans to
eventually port all or at least most of their games from Visual Basic
to C++. That's a big reason why we haven't heard or seen anything new
from them. That said, I hope nobody reads this and then begins
bombarding their inboxes asking for more information as they won't get
any. Draconis has their own time table, and will release all the
upgraded games if and when they are ready. Anyway, to make a long
explaination short they haven't time to write anything new that I am
aware of, and since they have officially dropped Visual Basic 6 they
are not going to continue building Pinball Party Packs etc using that
language. Future Pinball Party Packs will probably come once Pinball
Extreme has been ported to C++. That's what I am given to understand.

Cheers!


On 3/6/11, dark  wrote:
> Thanks tom.
>
> Shame they haven't developed more titles really, including more pinball
> packs.
>
> i sort of got the idea pinball party pack was the first of a few, but we've
> not seen anymore yet.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Muhammed,

That's because some gamers are impatient, unwilling to wait, and they
expect people to jump when they snap their fingers. When a gamer says
"jump" the developer is expected to ask "how high?"

Unfortunately for them, that's not how things work in the real world.
We have families, jobs, our own free time, and they expect us to put
all of that aside just to answer to their every whim. After a while
developers like James North just quit when the pressure got too
intense to deal with. I've felt that way myself a few times.

Cheers!


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> market. If anyone has the emails, could you please send them offlist at
> muhamme...@googlemail.com

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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Charles Rivard

I would like them, too, in an off list Email.  Thanks.

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I don't even know why some blind gamers just put some developers off the 
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muhamme...@googlemail.com
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind 
gamers who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and 
that we still play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in 
years since he dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment 
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Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic



Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Charles Rivard
From what I remember, the table creator was not scrapped.  I was planned for 
the future.  There were bugs with it, and it was put on a back burner for 
future development.


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hey, glad to know I'm not the only one who has a spacial awareness 
problem. I'm horrible at maze games cause I just can't imagine what it 
looks like.

Original message:
just imagine if we had that table creator that adora initially planned. 
I'm
sure there'd be many creative people that could do some decent work here, 
me

included.. though my spacial awareness in games is really bad. :D
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Thanks tom.



Shame they haven't developed more titles really, including more pinball
packs.



i sort of got the idea pinball party pack was the first of a few, but
we've not seen anymore yet.



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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread dark
Yep, I was quite looking forward to that, in fact when pinball party pack 
came out I wondered if it'd be a sign that the table creator was stil in the 
works, but sadly not.


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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Lelia Struve
hey, glad to know I'm not the only one who has a spacial awareness 
problem. I'm horrible at maze games cause I just can't imagine what it 
looks like.

Original message:

just imagine if we had that table creator that adora initially planned. I'm
sure there'd be many creative people that could do some decent work here, me
included.. though my spacial awareness in games is really bad. :D
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Thanks tom.



Shame they haven't developed more titles really, including more pinball
packs.



i sort of got the idea pinball party pack was the first of a few, but
we've not seen anymore yet.



Beware the grue!



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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Pitermach
just imagine if we had that table creator that adora initially planned. I'm 
sure there'd be many creative people that could do some decent work here, me 
included.. though my spacial awareness in games is really bad. :D
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Thanks tom.

Shame they haven't developed more titles really, including more pinball 
packs.


i sort of got the idea pinball party pack was the first of a few, but 
we've not seen anymore yet.


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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread Shiny protector
I don't even know why some blind gamers just put some developers off the 
market. If anyone has the emails, could you please send them offlist at

muhamme...@googlemail.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind gamers 
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we 
still play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years 
since he dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he 
received from a number of blind people.


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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic



Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-06 Thread dark

Thanks tom.

Shame they haven't developed more titles really, including more pinball 
packs.


i sort of got the idea pinball party pack was the first of a few, but we've 
not seen anymore yet.


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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

The only original creations Draconis Entertainment has published to
date is Pinball Extreme, the Pinball Party Pack, Soundoku, and Ten Pin
Alley.Everything else was inherited from ESP.


Cheers!



On 3/5/11, dark  wrote:
> I thought draconis developed xtreme, along with the party pack, but I could
> be wrong, in fact it'd be interesting to know which of draconis games were
> actually written by them.
>
> I know josh from draconis helped Phil by voicing filch in Sarah, and I know
> they've updated some of the games like monkey business, but dare any of them
> original creations?
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clement Chou" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic
>
>
>> James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were the
>> ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site. James
>> left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off the ground it
>>
>> seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and now is draconis.
>>
>> At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
>>>Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or something.
>>>and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?
>>>Original message:
>>>>If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind
>>>>gamers
>>>>who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we
>>>>still
>>>>play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since
>>>>he
>>>>dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received
>>>>from
>>>>a number of blind people.
>>>
>>>>---
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>>>>heart.
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>From: "Jack F" 
>>>>To: "gamers" 
>>>>Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
>>>>Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Hi Lori,
>>>>>I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
>>>>>all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
>>>>>your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
>>>>>wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
>>>>>Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
>>>>>wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
>>>>>so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
>>>>>want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
>>>>>apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
>>>>>about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
>>>>>destruct.
>>>>>best regards,
>>>>>Jack
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Charles Rivard

You're right.

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- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


I thought draconis developed xtreme, along with the party pack, but I could 
be wrong, in fact it'd be interesting to know which of draconis games were 
actually written by them.


I know josh from draconis helped Phil by voicing filch in Sarah, and I 
know they've updated some of the games like monkey business, but dare any 
of them original creations?


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Clement Chou" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were the 
ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site. James 
left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off the ground 
it seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and now is 
draconis.


At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or something. 
and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?

Original message:
If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind 
gamers
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we 
still
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since 
he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received 
from

a number of blind people.



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To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Charles Rivard
Tenpin Alley was created jointly between Adora Entertainment and PCS Games. 
I'll bet Phil knows a bit about that.  (grin)


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


Adora created ESP pinball extreme... other than that, I think everything 
was from ESP.


At 05:43 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
I thought draconis developed xtreme, along with the party pack, but I 
could be wrong, in fact it'd be interesting to know which of draconis 
games were actually written by them.


I know josh from draconis helped Phil by voicing filch in Sarah, and I 
know they've updated some of the games like monkey business, but dare any 
of them original creations?


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were the 
ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site. James 
left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off the ground 
it seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and now is 
draconis.


At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or something. 
and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?

Original message:
If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind 
gamers
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we 
still
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since 
he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received 
from

a number of blind people.



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From: "Jack F" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Clement Chou
This is very true. However... some people don't get it. MOTA which 
Tom has taken over was originally called Montazuma's revenge and was 
based on a game from the 80s... it was supposed to be the kickoff for 
Alchemy studios along with a high-tech shooter called Max Shrapnel. 
Neither them ever got off the ground under Alchemy because of flaming 
and whatnot... supposedly people paid for Max Shrapnel and couldn't 
wait for the game. Everyone was flaming James and he eventually 
burned out, after taking heat between both games.


At 05:44 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
Wow, I'm sorry to hear he isn't a developer any longer, you know, 
people don't realize how hurtful words can be.

Original message:

James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were
the ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site.
James left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off
the ground it seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and
now is draconis.



At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:

Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or
something. and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?
Original message:

If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind gamers
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and 
that we still

play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received from
a number of blind people.



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- Original Message -
From: "Jack F" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Clement Chou
Adora created ESP pinball extreme... other than that, I think 
everything was from ESP.


At 05:43 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
I thought draconis developed xtreme, along with the party pack, but 
I could be wrong, in fact it'd be interesting to know which of 
draconis games were actually written by them.


I know josh from draconis helped Phil by voicing filch in Sarah, and 
I know they've updated some of the games like monkey business, but 
dare any of them original creations?


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they 
were the ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment 
site. James left to form Alchemy game studios which never really 
got off the ground it seems, and ESP softworks became adora 
entertainment and now is draconis.


At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or 
something. and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?

Original message:

If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind gamers
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and 
that we still

play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received from
a number of blind people.



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- Original Message -
From: "Jack F" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Lelia Struve
Wow, I'm sorry to hear he isn't a developer any longer, you know, 
people don't realize how hurtful words can be.

Original message:

James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were
the ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site.
James left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off
the ground it seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and
now is draconis.



At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:

Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or
something. and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?
Original message:

If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind gamers
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we still
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received from
a number of blind people.



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- Original Message -
From: "Jack F" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
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best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread dark
I thought draconis developed xtreme, along with the party pack, but I could 
be wrong, in fact it'd be interesting to know which of draconis games were 
actually written by them.


I know josh from draconis helped Phil by voicing filch in Sarah, and I know 
they've updated some of the games like monkey business, but dare any of them 
original creations?


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Clement Chou" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic


James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were the 
ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site. James 
left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off the ground it 
seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and now is draconis.


At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or something. 
and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?

Original message:
If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind 
gamers
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we 
still
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since 
he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received 
from

a number of blind people.



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- Original Message -
From: "Jack F" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Clement Chou
James north used to run a company called ESP softworks, and they were 
the ones who developed the games on the draconis entertainment site. 
James left to form Alchemy game studios which never really got off 
the ground it seems, and ESP softworks became adora entertainment and 
now is draconis.


At 05:10 PM 05/03/2011, you wrote:
Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or 
something. and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?

Original message:

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who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we still
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received from
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Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Lelia Struve
Who is James North? I remember seeing his name on a credit or 
something. and how do we get in touch with him to compliment him?

Original message:

If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind gamers
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we still
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since he
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received from
a number of blind people.



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From: "Jack F" 
To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic




Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread dark
Imho that's a bit too generous for a demo, 50 minutes?  you wouldn't 
need to buy the game to get a good play on the first two tables.


My favourite demos are those like Gma which give you full access for as long 
as you like, but only to  a small portion of the game.


This way you can test the game out with no urgency to pay sinse you won't 
run out of time, but  at the same time the developer isn't giving his/her 
game out for free,   remember afterall, there are people who just! play 
demos and nothing else.




Myself, rather than any sort of time limit, in pinball I'd prefer a points 
limit. Say of a million points in the packman and haunted house tables, this 
would also insure that you didn't see the minigames in those table too often 
either.


That would imho show of the game very well, but make certain that paying was 
highly worth while.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Jack F" 

To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic



Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Charles Rivard
If you talk to James North, let him know that there are still blind gamers 
who appreciate the work he did, and the games he produced, and that we still 
play them.  Nobody that I am aware of has heard from him in years since he 
dropped out of the blind gaming scene due to the treatment he received from 
a number of blind people.


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From: "Jack F" 

To: "gamers" 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic



Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic

2011-03-05 Thread Pitermach
hi, I don't like that idea at all. vipgameszone's demos are way too 
restrictive already. on-top of the 15-minute demo you also have a 3-day 
limit. that kind of seems wrong. draconis's system works just fine... on the 
topic, james north doesn't manage it anymore.
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From: "Jack F" 

To: "gamers" 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:57 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic



Hi Lori,
I've had the same problem with ESP pinball, in fact I've had it with
all draconis and vipgameszone games. I think it may be a problem with
your computer, but you can try contacting draconis about it. I in fact
wish that it didn't have a time limit in days, but minutes instead.
Here's how it would work. The game would let you try the packman and
wild west tables as usual, however it times out after 50 minutes or
so. You can run the game for as many times as you want, however if you
want to play it again you need to reboot your computer. The same would
apply for all draconis games except monky business. I'll talk to James
about that today. And any of you please give me your reg key for self
destruct.
best regards,
Jack



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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-05 Thread Charles Rivard
If you two had to read and moderate every single message to the list, you 
wouldn't get much else done in your lives!  I, for one, do appreciate the 
work that you and Raul are doing as list moderators.  Thanks.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic



Hi Michael,

Michael wrote:

  Well, if Thomas had posted my previous reply, you would've known
the rules, but he backstabbed you too.

My reply:

Michael, I don't know what your problem with me is, but you are way
off base here. You are not on moderated status so Raul and I have
absolutely nothing to do with posting/not posting your messages. If a
message did not get through it isn't our fault. Contrary to what you
believe we are not a couple of power hungry dictators reading each and
every single post people send to the list looking for people to
moderate. We only step in and do so if and when a post comes to our
attention that is in violation of the list rules/guidelines. Since you
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts

2011-03-05 Thread dark

Hi Charlese.

The safari table is fun, and it seems far easier to hit the letters than in 
haunted house, sinse they don't have the bumpers around them, this means 
I've got quite good scores on that table.


The thing that surprised me is how fast you have to be hammering the keys to 
swim out of the water or run away from the kooga. the usual speed I did this 
which is okay for instance in running in the home run table just wasn't fast 
enough originally and I had to put more of a spert on.


Other than that the table is quite fun, especially keeping my ball out of 
the snake pit. I do wish they'd included a bit more of the mighty jungle 
song in the background though, sinse that's a favourite of mine.


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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts

2011-03-04 Thread Charles Rivard
Try the Safari table in the set of classic ones and let me know what you 
think.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts


Well that makes sense Tom, accept I do regret a litle not buying the game 
originally.


When I first tried esp pinball classic back in 2006 when I bought xtreme, 
my opinion was that the tables were far simpler than the xtreme ones so I 
didn't bother with the game,  my mistake as it turns out.


That's obviously why the second game has the pinball extreme and I believe 
alien invasion tables, which have a lot going on in them, in fact if I 
remember rightly I bought the game the same night I tried it just on the 
strength of those two tables (particularly pinball xtremem).


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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread BlindLee55
i got the xtreme version and i liked it ,i appreciate your help.
 
lee  

 
In a message dated 3/4/2011 5:36:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
burakyuksek...@gmail.com writes:

Xtreme  is an advanced version of classic.
sevgiler saygilar
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> what is the  difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme?
>
>  lee
>
>
> In a message dated 3/4/2011 9:12:36 A.M. Eastern  Standard Time,
> duff...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Best  way  to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read  
the
> docs as  well to get a good understanding.
>
>  -Original Message-
> From:  gamers-boun...@audyssey.org  [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
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> Behalf  Of Lori  Duncan
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM
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> Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball  Classic
>
> Hi I used to  have a game of pinball when I was  really small, just a 
> horrid
> plastic one,  but I didn't  understand the rules.  What I'm wondering is 
> are
>  there  any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I  can
> listen and  get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way  through a demo
> version.   Isn't the point of pinball that  you move the ball and it 
lands 
> on
> certain   numbers?  If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare
>  table
> come into it?  Sorry for being very dim on this one, but  it  would help 
if
> someone could explain it a bit for me.   Thanks from  Lori.
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts

2011-03-04 Thread dark
Well that makes sense Tom, accept I do regret a litle not buying the game 
originally.


When I first tried esp pinball classic back in 2006 when I bought xtreme, my 
opinion was that the tables were far simpler than the xtreme ones so I 
didn't bother with the game,  my mistake as it turns out.


That's obviously why the second game has the pinball extreme and I believe 
alien invasion tables, which have a lot going on in them, in fact if I 
remember rightly I bought the game the same night I tried it just on the 
strength of those two tables (particularly pinball xtremem).


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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts

2011-03-04 Thread Lelia Struve
Hi Dark, glad I'm not the only who felt like that about packman and the 
other game in the demo.

Original message:

Hi.


Well I bought the game and have been playing it for a couple of hours 
now, and I actually think draconis didn't do themselves any favours by 
having the packman and wildwest tables in the demo, sinse the others 
are much more fun.



They seem generally easier than most of the xtreme tables.


Socker star was easy once I worked out a way of getting instant goals 
by only knocking out one defender, and got that instance reflex to hit 
the spacebar everytime I here the ball come near my goal.


Safari was proving a problem until I sped up my key hammering speed for 
escaping the water and the kooga, once I got that worked out it was fine.


Haunted house is my favourite, the sfx are just awsome (EVENTHE INTRO 
is cool), and probably is the hardest one I've cracked thus far, sinse 
some of those shots,  particularly for the letter g took a bit of 
working out.



Heist I'm stil trying thus far.



Beware the grue!



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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread burakyuksek

Xtreme is an advanced version of classic.
sevgiler saygilar
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what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme?

lee


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Best way  to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the
docs as  well to get a good understanding.

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Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

Hi I used to  have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a 
horrid
plastic one,  but I didn't understand the rules.  What I'm wondering is 
are

there  any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can
listen and  get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo
version.   Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands 
on

certain  numbers?  If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare
table
come into it?  Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it  would help if
someone could explain it a bit for me.  Thanks from  Lori.
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Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts

2011-03-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, as far as the demo of Pinball Clasic goes the blame doesn't fall
on Draconis really. The demo has always used the Packman and Wild West
tables ever since it was first released by ESP which was long before
Josh came along and took it over. I agree with you, however, that some
of the other tables like Haunted House would have made abetter demo
table than the current demo tables.

Cheers!

On 3/4/11, dark  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Well I bought the game and have been playing it for a couple of hours now,
> and I actually think draconis didn't do themselves any favours by having the
> packman and wildwest tables in the demo, sinse the others are much more fun.
>
> They seem generally easier than most of the xtreme tables.
>
> Socker star was easy once I worked out a way of getting instant goals by
> only knocking out one defender, and got that instance reflex to hit the
> spacebar everytime I here the ball come near my goal.
>
> Safari was proving a problem until I sped up my key hammering speed for
> escaping the water and the kooga, once I got that worked out it was fine.
>
> Haunted house is my favourite, the sfx are just awsome (EVENTHE INTRO is
> cool), and probably is the hardest one I've cracked thus far, sinse some of
> those shots,  particularly for the letter g took a bit of working out.
>
> Heist I'm stil trying thus far.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,

Michael wrote:

   Well, if Thomas had posted my previous reply, you would've known
the rules, but he backstabbed you too.

My reply:

Michael, I don't know what your problem with me is, but you are way
off base here. You are not on moderated status so Raul and I have
absolutely nothing to do with posting/not posting your messages. If a
message did not get through it isn't our fault. Contrary to what you
believe we are not a couple of power hungry dictators reading each and
every single post people send to the list looking for people to
moderate. We only step in and do so if and when a post comes to our
attention that is in violation of the list rules/guidelines. Since you
are not on moderated status, and you rudely insinuated that I was
withholding your post on purpose, I demand an apology from you. What
you said was very low and was very belittling for absolutely no reason
at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread Lelia Struve
Pin ball Extreme has different tables, it has homerun, pinball extreme 
which is the circus game and others.

Original message:

what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme?



lee




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Best way  to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the
docs as  well to get a good understanding.



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Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic



Hi I used to  have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid
plastic one,  but I didn't understand the rules.  What I'm wondering is are
there  any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can
listen and  get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo
version.   Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on
certain  numbers?  If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare
table
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread dark
Accept for xtreme wild west in the pinball party pack which is a remake of 
the wild west table in classic.


I actually wish they'd get around to releasing more pinball party packs, I 
find pinball is another thing which is actually more fun in audio than 
visually for some reason.


Beware the grue!

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They are different games.  Duh?  Different tables.  Different sounds.

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what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme?

lee


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Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

Hi I used to  have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a 
horrid
plastic one,  but I didn't understand the rules.  What I'm wondering is 
are

there  any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can
listen and  get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo
version.   Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands 
on

certain  numbers?  If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare
table
come into it?  Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it  would help 
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread Charles Rivard

They are different games.  Duh?  Different tables.  Different sounds.

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what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme?

lee


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Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

Hi I used to  have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a 
horrid
plastic one,  but I didn't understand the rules.  What I'm wondering is 
are

there  any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can
listen and  get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo
version.   Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands 
on

certain  numbers?  If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare
table
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread BlindLee55
what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme?
 
lee  

 
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plastic one,  but I didn't understand the rules.  What I'm wondering is are
there  any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can
listen and  get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo
version.   Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on
certain  numbers?  If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare  
table
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread Frost
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:54:48PM +, Lori Duncan wrote:
> Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a 
> horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules.

[My Reply:]
Hi Lori,

Well, if Thomas had posted my previous reply, you would've known 
the rules, but he backstabbed you too.

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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-04 Thread Darren Duff
Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the
docs as well to get a good understanding. 

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Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid
plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules.  What I'm wondering is are
there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can
listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo
version.  Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on
certain numbers?  If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table
come into it?  Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if
someone could explain it a bit for me.  Thanks from Lori.  
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic - Re: Soccer star ESP Classic

2011-03-03 Thread dark
There was a pretty awsome pinball game on the amigar, pinball fantasies 
which I watched my brother play a lot, my favourite table there was the 
nightmare table so I deffinately should fork out for the classic set I think 
if the aunted house is similar.


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Hi,

Yes, in deed. Personally I think the Haunted House table is easily my
favorite of the pinball tables. It reminds me of a pinball game I had,
I'd say in the mid 90's, that had all kinds of cool si-fi and horror
themed tables. There was a UFO themed table, a haunted graveyard
table, a haunted house table, and a couple of others. I loved it.

On 3/3/11, Charles Rivard  wrote:

Enjoy the Haunted House table.  It's a fun one, too.

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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic - Re: Soccer star ESP Classic

2011-03-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Yes, in deed. Personally I think the Haunted House table is easily my
favorite of the pinball tables. It reminds me of a pinball game I had,
I'd say in the mid 90's, that had all kinds of cool si-fi and horror
themed tables. There was a UFO themed table, a haunted graveyard
table, a haunted house table, and a couple of others. I loved it.

On 3/3/11, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> Enjoy the Haunted House table.  It's a fun one, too.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic - Re: Soccer star ESP Classic

2011-03-03 Thread Lori Duncan

I'd love to hear a recording of that one, just for the fun of it.
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Enjoy the Haunted House table.  It's a fun one, too.

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Subject: [Audyssey] Soccer star ESP Classic


Wow, I finally got the deal with this game, its fairly easy when you 
finally get the hang of it, I got 13 and visiting team gets 5.  Nice.


now to figure out the other games.

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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-02 Thread dark
Most of the time, when the ball gets near a flippr it will stick, and you'll 
then here the scan running through what you can fire the ball at (though 
this will vary according to where on the flipper it is), and when you here 
the sound for something you press space to flick the ball.


the one exception is the big extra flipper in sudworks, which you need to 
catch the ball with when you here it hit the flipper and the beeping sound.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic


I have a question along these lines, I at first thought you had to wait for 
the scanner to scan something and then use your flippers to hit the ball 
that direction, but now that I've been playing these games a bit, I think 
I've got it somewhat wrong.
Would I be right in thinking that when I hear the ball come next to either 
my left or right flipper I hit the flipper so it can flip the ball to a 
certain area on the table?


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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-02 Thread Charles Rivard
By propelling them where you want them to go through the use of the 
flippers.  I suggest you read the user's guide.


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Hellow,

Stupid question, but does anyone know how to get the balls to move around
the table in this game?

Thanks,

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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-02 Thread Lelia Struve
I have a question along these lines, I at first thought you had to wait 
for the scanner to scan something and then use your flippers to hit the 
ball that direction, but now that I've been playing these games a bit, 
I think I've got it somewhat wrong.
Would I be right in thinking that when I hear the ball come next to 
either my left or right flipper I hit the flipper so it can flip the 
ball to a certain area on the table?


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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-02 Thread Harmony Neil
Cool. Thanks.

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the space bar.
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> Hellow,
>
> Stupid question, but does anyone know how to get the balls to move around
> the table in this game?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harmony.
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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-01 Thread Frost
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 11:22:45PM -, Harmony Neil wrote:
> Stupid question, but does anyone know how to get the balls to move around
> the table in this game?

[My Reply:]
Use the Spacebar or the Enter key.  Pinball games usually use 
one of those, or maybe the cursor down control to simulate pulling back 
a spring-loaded plunger.  The longer you hold the plunger back, the 
harder it strikes the ball when you release it, sending it to the top of 
the machine, where it will then fall down again towards you..  You then 
use paddles to bat it back to the top again, or at specific targets.  
These paddles are generally simulated with the left and right shift or 
control keys, as the Alt key is reserved for opening menus in Windows.


Imagine your tiny self at the bottom of an inverted milk jug 
with a baseball bat in each hand, trying to keep the milk from spilling 
out, and you get the picture.

The only problem is that on either side of the jug are channels 
the milk can slip through, around your paddles.  The paddles are also 
about a ball's width apart, and the milk can slip past you, between the 
paddles.

The tricky part is trying to hit targets on the left side of the 
jug with the right paddle, and targets on the right side of the jug with 
the left paddle.  Skilled players can flip the milk from one paddle to 
another to perform this, but keeping the milk in the bottle for as long 
as possible is the general goal.  Eventually the ball will hit something 
really point-worthy.  HTH,

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Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic

2011-03-01 Thread simon dowling

the space bar.
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Hellow,

Stupid question, but does anyone know how to get the balls to move around
the table in this game?

Thanks,

Harmony.

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-08 Thread william lomas
I think it is though since you have to make a log in don't you before you pay 
so you would need to know the log in s

On 6 May 2010, at 20:47, Bryan Peterson wrote:

> It still leaves people who for whatever reason can't always access the 
> internet in the dust. And there are a few unscrupulous blind folks I know who 
> would give out their username and password to others. So it's still not crack 
> proof.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of 
> ggh.
> - Original Message - From: "william lomas" 
> 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
> 
> 
>> ah true but it is still a really secure way in my view of varifying games
>> 
>> On 6 May 2010, at 17:49, Bryan Peterson wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah but if the server is down or you lose internet access you're screwed. 
>>> A lot of people have been having problems logging in lately for some reason.
>>> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
>>> of ggh.
>>> - Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> we haven't heard from them for years anyways.
>>>> I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is 
>>>> like entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it 
>>>> registers
>>>> 
>>>> On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> In God we trust.
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "dark" 
>>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will 
>>>>>> buy them,  and if people don't,  they won't!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Beware the grue!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dark.
>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "william lomas" 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
>>>>>>>> enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
>>>>>>>> doesn't seem adequate really.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Beware the grue!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dark.
>>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Dark,
>>>>>>>>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
>>>>>>>>> through a
>>>>>>>>> complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Hayden
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of dark
>>>>>&g

Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Ah...walkthroughs aren't really in the question. My mike is awful.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Agree, go for it!  I love audio walkthroughs, they have the advantage of 
learning while listening and they're loads of fun to listen too, I'm going 
to do one on the new update of Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft 1.2 when 
it comes out.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


> When you do, I'd like a copy of the audio walk-throughs if you describe 
> what you're doing as you do it.  Those are fun to listen to.  I might try 
> a hand at them, too.
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Hayden Presley" 
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>
>
>> Hi Dark,
>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through a
>> complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
>> Best Regards,
>> Hayden
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of dark
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made 
>> up
>> my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
>> tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
>> goodness
>> knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
>> I've
>> already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't

>> so
>> surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of 
>> the
>> packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>>
>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings of
>> some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
>> pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.
>>
>> Beware the Grue!
>>
>> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Wiliam,
Lol that's lol not funny lol. Lol.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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William, don't poste on this thread. It'll get you on trubble. I'm leeding
you in the right direction. 

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And discussion thereof could get you banned from the list?
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
of ggh.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


> Are you aware that is piracy?
> ---
> In God we trust.
> - Original Message -
> From: "william lomas" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>
>
>> lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol
>>
>> On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:
>>
>>> That would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much 
>>> I enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
>>> doesn't seem adequate really.
>>>
>>> Beware the grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 
>>> 
>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dark,
>>>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
>>>> through a complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and 
>>>> soccer star.
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Hayden
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
>>>> [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of dark
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>>>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
>>>> made up my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with 
>>>> more redesigned tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be 
>>>> happening (in fact goodness knows what is! happening at Draconis). 
>>>> Part of the problem is that as I've already got the pinball party 
>>>> pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't so surprising,  and 
>>>> for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of the packman 
>>>> table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
>>>> recordings of some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip 
>>>> on the draconis esp pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too 
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>>
>>>> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Willem
The ip address from which you log in is recorded at least, so if you log in 
from USA and britten at the same time they will see something is wrong. Or 
if you appear to own about 20 pcs all over some part of a country it would 
look funny as well.


Most people have internet to some extent. They'd have to download the game, 
though I don't think it is a good idea to make the user connect to the 
internet every time, like time of conflict dforces you to do.


Having said that, no system is uncrackable.
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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


It still leaves people who for whatever reason can't always access the 
internet in the dust. And there are a few unscrupulous blind folks I know 
who would give out their username and password to others. So it's still 
not crack proof.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Bryan Peterson

No you don't have to be online to play.
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so if someone have the pinball game you have to be online to play?

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread dark

not at all.

That was just a comment about online registration, --- but the pinball games 
work just like Draconis other titles.


They're stand alone programs, and you just write in the key they send you to 
register them.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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so if someone have the pinball game you have to be online to play?

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread michael barnes

so if someone have the pinball game you have to be online to play?

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
It still leaves people who for whatever reason can't always access the 
internet in the dust. And there are a few unscrupulous blind folks I know 
who would give out their username and password to others. So it's still not 
crack proof.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



ah true but it is still a really secure way in my view of varifying games

On 6 May 2010, at 17:49, Bryan Peterson wrote:

Yeah but if the server is down or you lose internet access you're 
screwed. A lot of people have been having problems logging in lately for 
some reason.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle of ggh.
- Original Message - From: "william lomas" 

To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



we haven't heard from them for years anyways.
I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is 
like entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it 
registers


On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:


Exactly.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?

Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will 
buy them,  and if people don't,  they won't!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" 


To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much 
I enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
doesn't seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
----- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
through a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer 
star.

Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that 
as I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and 
gameplay of the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis 
esp

pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
I agree but at least we do hear something from Draconis from time to time, 
however infrequently. It goes back to the Bavisoft discussion which crops up 
every few months.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


I understand some companies have problems, but is there any need just to 
fade into the etha like that?  Bit of a con I think, and lazyness not to 
update a site.
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To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



we haven't heard from them for years anyways.
I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is 
like entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it 
registers


On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:


Exactly.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?

Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will 
buy them,  and if people don't,  they won't!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "william lomas" 


To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
doesn't seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
through a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer 
star.

Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that 
as I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and 
gameplay of the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis 
esp

pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread dark

Well actually lori, Draconis did put out news of a sale at christmas.

Unlike Bavisoft, it's very obvious they're stil around as a company, 
offering support and selling their games,  we just haven't heard 
anything developement wise out of them sinse their announcement that they 
were working on game updates in 2008.


But given the time it takes to develope audio games, I personally won't 
start to be really concerned until three years have past completely with no 
release info,  it even took David reenwood two years working on vip mud 
betwene 2006 and 2008,  which is just the nature of programming 
unfortunately.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


I understand some companies have problems, but is there any need just to 
fade into the etha like that?  Bit of a con I think, and lazyness not to 
update a site.
- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" 
To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



we haven't heard from them for years anyways.
I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is 
like entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it 
registers


On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:


Exactly.
---
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- Original Message - From: "dark" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?

Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will 
buy them,  and if people don't,  they won't!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" 


To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
doesn't seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
through a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer 
star.

Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that 
as I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and 
gameplay of the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis 
esp

pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread william lomas
ah true but it is still a really secure way in my view of varifying games

On 6 May 2010, at 17:49, Bryan Peterson wrote:

> Yeah but if the server is down or you lose internet access you're screwed. A 
> lot of people have been having problems logging in lately for some reason.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of 
> ggh.
> - Original Message - From: "william lomas" 
> 
> To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
> 
> 
>> we haven't heard from them for years anyways.
>> I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is 
>> like entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it 
>> registers
>> 
>> On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:
>> 
>>> Exactly.
>>> ---
>>> In God we trust.
>>> ----- Original Message - From: "dark" 
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?
>>>> 
>>>> Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will buy 
>>>> them,  and if people don't,  they won't!
>>>> 
>>>> Beware the grue!
>>>> 
>>>> Dark.
>>>> - Original Message - From: "william lomas" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That would be much appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
>>>>>> enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't 
>>>>>> seem adequate really.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Beware the grue!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dark.
>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Dark,
>>>>>>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Hayden
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of dark
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>>>>>>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
>>>>>>> made up
>>>>>>> my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
>>>>>>> tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
>>>>>>> goodness
>>>>>>> knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
>>>>>>> isn't so
>>>>>>> surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay 
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> some of the other tables,  sinse the b

Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Lori Duncan
I understand some companies have problems, but is there any need just to 
fade into the etha like that?  Bit of a con I think, and lazyness not to 
update a site.
- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" 
To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



we haven't heard from them for years anyways.
I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is 
like entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it 
registers


On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:


Exactly.
---
In God we trust.
- Original Message - From: "dark" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?

Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will 
buy them,  and if people don't,  they won't!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "william lomas" 


To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
doesn't seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
through a

complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay 
of the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis 
esp

pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Muhammed Deniz
William, don't poste on this thread. It'll get you on trubble. I'm leeding
you in the right direction. 

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 06 May 2010 17:48
To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

And discussion thereof could get you banned from the list?
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
of ggh.
- Original Message -
From: "Charles Rivard" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


> Are you aware that is piracy?
> ---
> In God we trust.
> - Original Message -
> From: "william lomas" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>
>
>> lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol
>>
>> On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:
>>
>>> That would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much 
>>> I enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
>>> doesn't seem adequate really.
>>>
>>> Beware the grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 
>>> 
>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dark,
>>>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
>>>> through a complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and 
>>>> soccer star.
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Hayden
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
>>>> [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of dark
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>>>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
>>>> made up my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with 
>>>> more redesigned tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be 
>>>> happening (in fact goodness knows what is! happening at Draconis). 
>>>> Part of the problem is that as I've already got the pinball party 
>>>> pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't so surprising,  and 
>>>> for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of the packman 
>>>> table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
>>>> recordings of some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip 
>>>> on the draconis esp pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too 
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>>
>>>> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Hi Bryan,
That was the first time that I was on mailing lists actually. I didn't no
that if I wur to say, you no... And I thought it was going to work. So that
was the old times basically. 

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 06 May 2010 17:51
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Charles wasn't flaming him Muhamed. He was warning him. And not to start
anything myself but I distinctly recall you yourself getting into trouble
with Philip on the Blastbay list for more or less this exact thing. Don't
take everything as a personal insult.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
of ggh.
- Original Message -
From: "Muhammed Deniz" 
To: "'Charles Rivard'" ; "'Gamers Discussion list'"


Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


> Don't flaim him. And william, discuss this off list with who your 
> going to discuss this topic with. I'm just trying to help you avoid
trubble.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
> On Behalf Of Charles Rivard
> Sent: 06 May 2010 16:18
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>
> Are you aware that is piracy?
> ---
> In God we trust.
> - Original Message -
> From: "william lomas" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>
>
>> lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol
>>
>> On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:
>>
>>> That would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much 
>>> I enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
>>> doesn't seem adequate really.
>>>
>>> Beware the grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley"
>>> 
>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dark,
>>>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
>>>> through a complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and 
>>>> soccer star.
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Hayden
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
>>>> [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of dark
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>>>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
>>>> made
>
>>>> up
>>>> my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
>>>> redesigned tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening 
>>>> (in fact goodness knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of 
>>>> the problem is that as I've already got the pinball party pack, the 
>>>> wild west table in the demo isn't so surprising,  and for 
>>>> obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of
>
>>>> the
>>>> packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
>>>> recordings of some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip 
>>>> on the draconis esp pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too 
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>>
>>>> Dark.
>>>> ---
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>>>> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
Charles wasn't flaming him Muhamed. He was warning him. And not to start 
anything myself but I distinctly recall you yourself getting into trouble 
with Philip on the Blastbay list for more or less this exact thing. Don't 
take everything as a personal insult.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Muhammed Deniz" 
To: "'Charles Rivard'" ; "'Gamers Discussion list'" 


Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Don't flaim him. And william, discuss this off list with who your going to
discuss this topic with. I'm just trying to help you avoid trubble.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: 06 May 2010 16:18
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Are you aware that is piracy?
---
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- Original Message -
From: "william lomas" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't
seem adequate really.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley"

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through
a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made



up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned

tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay 
of



the
packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings
of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
Yeah but if the server is down or you lose internet access you're screwed. A 
lot of people have been having problems logging in lately for some reason.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" 
To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



we haven't heard from them for years anyways.
I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is 
like entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it 
registers


On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:


Exactly.
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- Original Message - From: "dark" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?

Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will 
buy them,  and if people don't,  they won't!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "william lomas" 


To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just 
doesn't seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play 
through a

complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay 
of the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play 
recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis 
esp

pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Bryan Peterson

And discussion thereof could get you banned from the list?
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
- Original Message - 
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Are you aware that is piracy?
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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't 
seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through 
a

complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay 
of the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings 
of

some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Don't flaim him. And william, discuss this off list with who your going to
discuss this topic with. I'm just trying to help you avoid trubble. 

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: 06 May 2010 16:18
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Are you aware that is piracy?
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


> lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol
>
> On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:
>
>> That would be much appreciated.
>>
>> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
>> enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't 
>> seem adequate really.
>>
>> Beware the grue!
>>
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 
>> 
>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dark,
>>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through 
>>> a
>>> complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Hayden
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of dark
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made

>>> up
>>> my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
>>> tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
>>> goodness
>>> knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
>>> I've
>>> already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
>>> isn't so
>>> surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of

>>> the
>>> packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings 
>>> of
>>> some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
>>> pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.
>>>
>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread william lomas
we haven't heard from them for years anyways. 
I still believe the best non pirating way of getting games registered is like 
entombed, online based, and when it finds your transaction ID it registers

On 6 May 2010, at 16:18, Charles Rivard wrote:

> Exactly.
> ---
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> - Original Message - From: "dark" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
> 
> 
>> Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?
>> 
>> Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will buy 
>> them,  and if people don't,  they won't!
>> 
>> Beware the grue!
>> 
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" 
>> 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>> 
>> 
>>> lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol
>>> 
>>> On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That would be much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
>>>> enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't 
>>>> seem adequate really.
>>>> 
>>>> Beware the grue!
>>>> 
>>>> Dark.
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 
>>>> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Dark,
>>>>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through a
>>>>> complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Hayden
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of dark
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>>>>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>>>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made 
>>>>> up
>>>>> my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
>>>>> tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact goodness
>>>>> knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as I've
>>>>> already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't 
>>>>> so
>>>>> surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings of
>>>>> some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
>>>>> pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Lori Duncan
Agree, go for it!  I love audio walkthroughs, they have the advantage of 
learning while listening and they're loads of fun to listen too, I'm going 
to do one on the new update of Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft 1.2 when 
it comes out.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic


When you do, I'd like a copy of the audio walk-throughs if you describe 
what you're doing as you do it.  Those are fun to listen to.  I might try 
a hand at them, too.

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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made 
up

my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't 
so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of 
the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Charles Rivard

Exactly.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?

Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will buy 
them,  and if people don't,  they won't!


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't 
seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through 
a

complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't 
made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more 
redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay 
of the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings 
of

some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Charles Rivard

Are you aware that is piracy?
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- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't 
seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 


To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic



Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through 
a

complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made 
up

my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of 
the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings 
of

some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-06 Thread Charles Rivard
When you do, I'd like a copy of the audio walk-throughs if you describe what 
you're doing as you do it.  Those are fun to listen to.  I might try a hand 
at them, too.

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Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made 
up

my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't 
so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of 
the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-05 Thread dark

Perhaps because I want draconis to keep producing games?

Afterall it's not as if they have a large audience of people who will buy 
them,  and if people don't,  they won't!


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lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:


That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I 
enjoy the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't 
seem adequate really.


Beware the grue!

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Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through 
a

complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made 
up

my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact 
goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as 
I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo 
isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of 
the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings 
of

some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-05 Thread william lomas
lol i got a key for it if you want it lol why bother buying it lol

On 6 May 2010, at 06:55, dark wrote:

> That would be much appreciated.
> 
> I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I enjoy 
> the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't seem 
> adequate really.
> 
> Beware the grue!
> 
> Dark.
> - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" 
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
> 
> 
>> Hi Dark,
>> I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through a
>> complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
>> Best Regards,
>> Hayden
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of dark
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
>> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
>> Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made up
>> my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
>> tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact goodness
>> knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as I've
>> already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't so
>> surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of the
>> packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.
>> 
>> I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings of
>> some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
>> pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.
>> 
>> Beware the Grue!
>> 
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-05 Thread dark

That would be much appreciated.

I was playing pinball xtreme the other day and reminded of how much I enjoy 
the soundscape of the game, but the demo for classic just doesn't seem 
adequate really.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:32 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi.

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made 
up

my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't 
so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of 
the

packman table isn't really a great advert for the game.

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much.

Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

2010-05-05 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Dark,
I may just do that; I'll put aside a bit of time, and I'll play through a
complete runthrough of heist, haunted house, safari, and soccer star.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic

Hi. 

I'm stil reconsiddering buying esp pinball classic and just haven't made up
my mind, I was waiting for more pinball party packs with more redesigned
tables,  but sadly that doesn't seem to be happening (in fact goodness
knows what is! happening at Draconis). Part of the problem is that as I've
already got the pinball party pack, the wild west table in the demo isn't so
surprising,  and for obvious reasons the sound scape and gameplay of the
packman table isn't really a great advert for the game. 

I was wondering if someone might considder making game play recordings of
some of the other tables,  sinse the brief clip on the draconis esp
pinball classic trailer really doesn't show too much. 

Beware the Grue! 

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic stuff

2008-10-03 Thread shaun everiss
its good if you want hte party pack, the tables in the demo are a bit slower 
than extreme.
At 03:21 a.m. 4/10/2008, you wrote:
>Hi. 
>
>I personally stil can't decide whether or not it's worth my while buying the 
>game, sinse I already have a copy of esp pinball Xtreme and the party pack. 
>For this reason the demo isn't actually too helpful, sinse obviously the wild 
>west table is basically like a cut down version of Extreme wild west. 
>
>I'd love someone to make recordings of some of the other tables, especially 
>the haunted house and safari ones (which sound intreaguing from the 
>instructions), and the very quick sound clip of safari on draconis. 
>
>Not that i have anything against the packman table, but I'm not sure how 
>representative of the rest of the game it is.
>
>Beware the Grue! 
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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic stuff

2008-10-03 Thread dark

Hi Chris.

that'd be great if you wouldn't mind, and probably useful to other people in 
the same position in future as well.


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I'll try and do it after this weekend then.

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Hi.

I personally stil can't decide whether or not it's worth my while buying 
the game, sinse I already have a copy of esp pinball Xtreme and the party 
pack. For this reason the demo isn't actually too helpful, sinse 
obviously the wild west table is basically like a cut down version of 
Extreme wild west.


I'd love someone to make recordings of some of the other tables, 
especially the haunted house and safari ones (which sound intreaguing 
from the instructions), and the very quick sound clip of safari on 
draconis.


Not that i have anything against the packman table, but I'm not sure how 
representative of the rest of the game it is.


Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Esp pinball classic stuff

2008-10-03 Thread Chris Hallsworth

I'll try and do it after this weekend then.

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Hi.

I personally stil can't decide whether or not it's worth my while buying 
the game, sinse I already have a copy of esp pinball Xtreme and the party 
pack. For this reason the demo isn't actually too helpful, sinse obviously 
the wild west table is basically like a cut down version of Extreme wild 
west.


I'd love someone to make recordings of some of the other tables, 
especially the haunted house and safari ones (which sound intreaguing from 
the instructions), and the very quick sound clip of safari on draconis.


Not that i have anything against the packman table, but I'm not sure how 
representative of the rest of the game it is.


Beware the Grue!

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