Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Eric Pierce
Even with the Mnot bit?

On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 10:57:11AM -0700, Tom Williams wrote:
> David Herman wrote:
> 
> (snip)
> 
> >Not to disparrage the hard work that was put into this hack but...
> >Let gimp be gimp and photoshop be photoshop.
> 
> I completely agree.
> 
> Peace...
> 
> Tom
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Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-01 Thread Eric Pierce
I tried it and didn't see any changes to the interface.  GimpShop only 
rearranges the menu structure to emulate Photoshop's a little closer.

It's really meant for a PS user who is transitioning to the Gimp.  If you're 
familar w/the Gimp, there's no need to use it (correct me if I'm wrong).

Eric P.

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> Those who crave a PhotoShop interface almost "finally" have it.  :)
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> Thanks for the link.  I will pass on this..
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> Peace...
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> Tom
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> Anyone tried GimpShop yet? Just wondering what the buzz is all about.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Why flat Input Levels Histogram in the Levels tool?

2005-03-20 Thread Eric Pierce
In the levels dialog, click the Logarithmic button (upper right).  You have the 
Linear button clicked.

On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 05:30:01PM -0800, Daniel Yek wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Input Levels Histogram in the Levels tool used to be a nice bell
> curve as shown in this book:
> http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html?node60.html
> 
> Since about a year ago, I started to get a flat Input Levels Histogram,
> as shown here:
> http://www.olywa.net/haiou/levelsTool.jpeg
> 
> Anybody knows why?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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[Gimp-user] Algebra help w/script

2005-03-06 Thread Eric Pierce
(Stop reading now - This is your only warning)

Ok, I'm struggling on some algebra here for a Script-fu plug-in I'm working on.

The plug-in is an automation of this rounded corners tutorial:  
http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/rounded-corners

Essentially, this tutorial blurs a black and white image w/90 degree corners, 
and then applies levels to bring the blurred edges back to a tight curved edge 
(i.e., the technique rounds all corners in a black/white image). The level 
tool's black input slider and the white input slider must adjust in relation to 
the blur radius, and that's where I'm stuck.

The tutorial uses levels 119 (black slider) and 135 (white slider), which works 
fine for a blur radius of 20px.  However, to use a different blur radius (to 
achieve greater/lesser rounding of corners), the black and white input sliders 
must adjust appropriately.  For example, if I do a blur radius of only 10px, 
111 (black) and 142 (white) give the desired result (i.e., a tight rounded 
corner with all excess blur removed).

Now I did some manual sampling of different blur radius to see if I could find 
a relation between the blur radius and the black/white slider settings.  My 
results make what looks like a y=1/x^2 type graph, but it needs a little 
tweaking.

Here's my data.
Radius  Black White diff (White - Black)
 0  0   255  255
 2 70   183  113
 4 93   160  67
 6102   151  49
 8108   145  37
 10   111   142  31
 12   114   139  25
 14   115   138  23
 16   117   136  19
 18   118   135  17
 20   119   134  15
 22   119   134  15
 24   120   133  13
 26   120   133  13
 28   121   132  11
 30   121   132  11
 32   121   132  11
 34   122   131  9
 36   122   131  9
 38   122   131  9
 40   122   131  9
 42   123   130  7
 44   123   130  7
 46   123   130  7
 48   123   130  7
 50   123   130  7
 52   123   130  7
 54   123   130  7
 56   124   129  5
 58   124   129  5
 60   124   129  5
 62   124   129  5
 64   124   129  5
 66   124   129  5
 68   124   129  5
 70   124   129  5
 72   124   129  5
 74   124   129  5
 76   124   129  5
 78   124   129  5
 80   124   129  5
 82   125   129  4
 84   125   129  4
 86   125   128  3
 88   125   128  3
 90   125   128  3

I've made a spreadsheet to graph this data (i.e., add to the confusion).
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/selection_rounded_stats.gnumeric

Now if I can just figure out the relationship (i.e., equation) between the 
radius (1st column) and the diff (4th column), that should be all I need to 
determine what the black/white slider settings should be for all cases.  My 
best stab is 'diff=(1/radius^2)*255*radius'.  But this produces slightly skewed 
results.

Anyway, thanks for reading!
Eric P.

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Re: [Gimp-user] remove background

2005-02-21 Thread Eric Pierce
Well, you've got your work cut out for you on the frizzy hair guys, but I've 
had some success using Filters->Colors->Decompose for frizzy haired 
individuals.  Go with RGB separation.  I then pick the layer with the best 
contrast between the hair and the background and massage that into a mask.  The 
rest of the person can be cut out fairly cleanly using paths (and then path to 
selection once path is created).  Once again, stick this into your mask.

On non-frizzy haired individuals (ex. M4110016.JPG), I'd go paths all the way.

Obviously, I'm leaving out a lot of the step details, but let us know if/where 
you get stuck if you need more explanation.

EP
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:17:40PM +, Arvid Böttiger wrote:
> I have some pictures here: http://www.fys.ku.dk/~arvid/ and I would like 
> to remove the background so I can copy/paste the persons into another 
> picture.
> But how do I do that when the background contains a lot of coulors - 
> like here: http://www.fys.ku.dk/~arvid/M4110102.JPG
> 
> thanks in advance
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble with layers from psd

2005-02-09 Thread Eric Pierce
One of the admins at my work purportedly uses Macormedia's Fireworks for raster 
image editing.

He told me that the default file format is png!  I called him a bold faced 
lier, but he swears up and down that png is the default format.  I asked him 
about layers, and he said the pngs that Fireworks saves can DO LAYERS.  I 
haven't seen it firsthand... is there any truth to this!?

And getting back to an earlier debate (file format 'lock-in' / divide and 
conquer), I've read somewhere that MS Word stole the word processing scene back 
in the day by:
1) implementing a damn near perfect WordPerfect (word pro leader at the time?) 
import filter but (in)conveniently lacked any WordPerfect output filter.
2) offering Word inexpensively

For what it's worth, I think the Gimp would excel and enlighten if it had the 
best psd import AND export filter as possible.  But I've learned to live with 
the current state of the psd filter at work.  I use Gimp for 95% of my work 
(web devel/print work), and the main print guy uses PS for everything.  The 
times when our work overlaps, I can conveniently save to psd for him from the 
Gimp if layers are an issue, and that has been a decent working solution for 
the 2+ years I've been at my current employment.

Implementing the import/export of a dynamic text layer from psd would be a nice 
addition though.

Eric P.

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 09:10:14PM -0200, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> So.
> 
> TIFF format can have layers, and that is documented (although just 
> using the 'normal' blending mode).
> 
> Can Photoshop work with layered TIFF's?
> 
> I think the support for layers in TIFFs is a lot easier to achieve 
> than trying to figure out the PSD file, since the TIFF standard is 
> documented, and that would be a good format for interchange of 
> layered images.
> 
> What do you say?
> 
>   JS
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Re: [Gimp-user] File browser preview?

2005-01-14 Thread Eric Pierce
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:02:22PM -0500, BandiPat wrote:
> On Friday 14 January 2005 09:32 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
> [...]
> > > =
> > >
> > > Ok, I'm adding more to my email. since I have learned more since
> > > asking the original question.  It seems that SuSE has done
> > > something to their build of Gimp 2.0.4 that is provided with 9.2
> > > that disables the preview pane in the file browser.  In looking at
> > > their src rpm, I find, what looks like a file added to disable
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Now, next question?  Anyone know of a new 2.2.2 Gimp rpm for SuSE
> > > 9.2? I tried compiling, but something happened during the configure
> > > that I haven't seen before and it failed horribly!  I'll try again
> > > later, but in the mean time, if anyone knows where to find a good
> > > rpm already compiled for SuSE 9.2, that will work for me too.  ;o)
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Patrick
> >
> > I think you'll need to compile GTK and friends first.  Then the Gimp.
> >
> > EP
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Re: [Gimp-user] File browser preview?

2005-01-14 Thread Eric Pierce
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 08:57:20PM -0500, BandiPat wrote:
> On Friday 14 January 2005 03:53 pm, BandiPat wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I seem to remember some discussion about this once, but not sure.  It
> > may have been more yelling about the new file browser look than
> > anything too.  ;o)
> >
> > Anyway, is it still possible to get a mini preview window for the
> > files you intend to load?  That was in the earlier Gnome & Gimp, but
> > I can't seem to find it now, if it's still available.  Some other
> > local users here say they still have it with Gimp 2.0.x versions, but
> > I'm not sure what version of Gnome files they are running.  I think
> > mine are 2.6 presently and maybe it's just 2.8 that has the preview
> > now?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Patrick
> =
> 
> Ok, I'm adding more to my email. since I have learned more since asking 
> the original question.  It seems that SuSE has done something to their 
> build of Gimp 2.0.4 that is provided with 9.2 that disables the preview 
> pane in the file browser.  In looking at their src rpm, I find, what 
> looks like a file added to disable that.
> 
> Now, next question?  Anyone know of a new 2.2.2 Gimp rpm for SuSE 9.2?  
> I tried compiling, but something happened during the configure that I 
> haven't seen before and it failed horribly!  I'll try again later, but 
> in the mean time, if anyone knows where to find a good rpm already 
> compiled for SuSE 9.2, that will work for me too.  ;o)
> 
> regards,
> Patrick
> 

I think you'll need to compile GTK and friends first.  Then the Gimp.

EP
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Re: [Gimp-user] Alt+ shortcuts

2005-01-02 Thread Eric Pierce
Is 'Preferences>Interface>Show menu mneumonics' checked on?

On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 10:12:16PM +0100, Aewyn wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> as for gimp 2.2 I can not use any shotcuts with Alt. (like x)
> In gimp 2.0 it works well. 
> 
> I don't know if it is a bug or a feature, but it would be
> fine to use shortcuts with Alt.
> 
> Thanks, Aewyn.
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[Gimp-user] Mosaic plugin question

2005-01-01 Thread Eric Pierce
Is there a way to render the Mosaic plugin w/o grid lines?
Example:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/misc/mosaic_grid.png

Also, didn't this plugin have a preview in previous versions of the Gimp?  I 
have a faint memory it did... or what that just the light-bulb image icon 
thingy...

FYI, I'm trying to Gimpify this tutorial:
http://www.xanthic.net/tutorials/pstut_screenzoom.html

Thanks,
Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GNU Image Manipulation Program 2.2.0

2004-12-20 Thread Eric Pierce
> >
> Hi all developers,
> 
> Maybe, between all the critical remarks and questions, it's time again 
> to thank you all for this magnificent work.

--->
I second that.  Your gift of time and talent are immeasurable, and whole 
heartedly appreciated!

The progress you've made since 1.2 (when I started using Gimp) has been 
astounding; I have personally benefitted greatly from all the improvements in 
the usability sphere.  I use Gimp everyday at work (web devel/print work) and 
have PS installed, but I find I rarely need to use it as Gimp is so damn able.  
Our department wasn't willing to foot the bill for another PS license for a 
co-worker, so I clued her in to the Gimp and she's 100% happy with it.

--->
Quick random screenshot.
http://epierce.freeshell.org/images/gimp.png

I've put everything into one window which cuts down drastically on alt-tabbing. 
 I have shortcuts for all the tools I use on a regular basis, so I've opted to 
remove all tool icons (as cool as they were to look at).

--->
 

--->
Keep up the great work!

Forever indebted,
Eric Pierce
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size

2004-11-09 Thread Eric Pierce
Ulp... my mistake.

You laid it out perfectly in your initial email.  I just lost it somewhere in 
the thread.
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:14:08AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eric Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Would this new 'Print Size' dialog have its own 'Resolution' setting?
> 
> Am I really that bad at describing things? The only thing you can
> configure in "Print Size" would be the resolution. There would be two
> entries to set the resolution (horziontal and vertical) and two
> entries to choose the print dimensions (width and height). Changing
> the print width or height will only affect the resolution, nothing
> else.
> 
> 
> Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size

2004-11-09 Thread Eric Pierce
That may be the case in DTP (Desktop Pub.) programs, but not in bitmap/raster 
editors.

See my updated 3 minute look at 'Image Resize' dialogs of 3 other raster editor 
wanna-bes.
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/print_size_research_results.php

Eric P.
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 09:01:53AM -0800, William Skaggs wrote:
> 
> 
> For consistency with other programs and with users' expectations,
> the menu entry should probably be called "Print Setup" and should
> go into the File menu next to the "Print" entry.
> 
>   -- Bill
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Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size

2004-11-09 Thread Eric Pierce
Would this new 'Print Size' dialog have its own 'Resolution' setting?

Eric P.

On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:13:12PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eric Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > So you'll also be moving Resolution from Scale Image, correct?
> 
> No. The resolution entries would stay in the Scale Image dialog.  I
> said the plan was to not change the Scale Image dialog at all and add
> an additional dialog to set the Print Size.
> 
> 
> Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-09 Thread Eric Pierce
Filters -> Distorts -> Curve Bend


On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:44:52PM -0800, Barton Bosch wrote:
> What are the best ways to take an image of a straight line and bend 
> it into an s-curve with The GIMP?  I have tried the perspective and 
> shear tools as well as the distort->curve bend filter without 
> producing an ideal result.
> 
> Are there other options?  I'd like to be able to set some points and 
> pull them around with the mouse similar to the UI for the path tool.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Barton
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Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size

2004-11-08 Thread Eric Pierce
So you'll also be moving Resolution from Scale Image, correct?

For what it's worth, I did a good 2 minutes of research on this topic to see 
what the other softies are doing for a "Print Size" type dialog.

Here:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/print_size_research_results.php

I see good arguements for two 'print size/resolution' location ideas.

#1 Returning it as it was in <=2.0 because...
 - Everybody else has 'pixel scaling' and 'print size' in the same dialog, 
 - People are accustomed to Gimp also having these entries together as they've 
been that way a long time
 - one less menu entry = one less menu entry to wade through

#2 Putting it into its own menu entry (Sven's idea below) because... 
 - Having 'Print Size/resolution' settings in w/Interpolation settings really 
doesn't make sense
 - Gimp is NOT about what everybody else is doing - fock 'em

That said, I vote for idea #2, and I vote for "Print Size" for the vernacular.

I'd be curious to hear from others on this topic who use Gimp mostly for print 
work.  

Eric P.


On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 12:48:44PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> we spent some more thoughts on this and discussed the topic on #gimp.
> Let me present the current plan and ask you for comments. I'd like to
> get it right this time since we should try to avoid further string
> changes before 2.2.0...
> 
> So the plan is to keep the Scale Image dialog as is and to add a new
> dialog called "Print Size" which will allow to change the image
> resolution (and nothing else). It should offer two entries to specify
> the print size in physical units and two entries to specify the print
> resolution (linked with a chain-button since you will usually want to
> change both values at the same time).
> 
> Does that make any sense? Is "Print Size" a good name for the dialog
> and it's menu entry?
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size

2004-11-06 Thread Eric Pierce
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 01:03:52PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eric Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Will the 'print size width/height' fields be returning to the Scale
> > Image dialog?
> 
> Would it perhaps be better to also remove the Resolution entries from
> the Scale dialog and add a new dialog Image->Change Print Size ? The
> fact that you had to use the Scale dialog for changing the resolution
> has always been a source of confusion. Perhaps a different dialog
> would be a good way to solve that problem w/o ending up with a
> cluttered Scale dialog again?
> 
Sure.  That actually makes the most sense.

Eric
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[Gimp-user] image scale (2.2) - missing print size

2004-11-06 Thread Eric Pierce
Will the 'print size width/height' fields be returning to the Scale Image dialog?

Forgive me if I've misinterpreted the intentions of the new Scale Image dialog (and 
let me know if I have), but after reading bug #151022, I believe the removal of the 
'Print size Width/Height' fields unnesessarily adds an extra step for people in the 
print industry (me) who rely on changing an image to a specific print size w/o any 
harm to the pixels.

The previous Scale Image dialog worked perfectly for "resizing" images for print.  
Now, with the 2.2pre1 image scale, if I have an image that is 5" x 5" / 150 ppi (750 
px by 750 px) and I need to (non-destructively) change the print size to 4" x 4", the 
only way to do this with the new dialog is to pull out a calculator.  I must divide 
750 (px) by 4 (inches) to determine the new print resolution (which comes to 187.5 
ppi), and enter this value in for the x/y resolution.

With the older dialog, since all I'm concerned with is changing the print image size 
to 4" x 4", I had a dedicated field ('Print size Width/Height') to simply enter that 
info into.  I didn't have to worry about the resolution as it calculated automatically 
thus preserving (i.e., not changing) the image pixel size.

Also, before anyone suggests this, I did try changing the image size units to inches 
and then change the size that way, but it becomes a destructive scale.

Personally, I will continue happily using the Gimp regardless if this gets fixed or 
not, but I do think people coming from a print background who are new to the Gimp will 
be confused by this (i.e., having to manually calculate the resolution to change the 
print size).

Thanks for reading,
Eric Pierce
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Re: [Gimp-user] flat image bg color change

2004-11-01 Thread Eric Pierce
There are a billion different ways to do what you're talking about.  But it really 
comes down to the quality/properties of the image you have.

Show us what you have.

 
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 01:13:21AM -0500, Tom wrote:
> (new to gimp)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to change the background color of a photo,
> (preferably with a gradient or shadow effect)
> but it's a single layer (jpg).  I tried to 'select by color'
> and replace it, but the edges of the object in the foreground
> turn out jagged and looks bad.  I also tried to invert the
> selection and cut and paste it into a new image file, but it looks
> just as bad.
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
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Re: [Gimp-user] Copy from Gimp to OpenOffice Draw

2004-10-19 Thread Eric Pierce
Not quite as easy, but save the image in Gimp and then Insert -> Picture in OOo.  

Or in Windows land, do a 'copy to clipboard' in Gimp and simply paste in OOo.
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 08:19:41PM +0200, Pau Cabot wrote:
> Hi to everybody,
> 
> I cannot copy an image from Gimp 2.0 to OpenOffice Draw. I'm not the 
> only one that has this problem, as I have found this page in internet:
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2004-10-10-002-26-RV-SW-0002
> 
> Can somebody help me?
> 
> Thank you, Pau.
> 
> PS. Gimp 2.0, OpenOffice 1.1, Suse Linux 9.1
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Re: [Gimp-user] new transparency entry

2004-09-28 Thread Eric Pierce
Yeah, I just found it listed under 'Configure Keyboard Shortcuts'.  That's probably 
good enough for a function like this.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 10:34:11AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eric Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Can we add (copy over) the 'Keep transparency' checkbox from the
> > layer dialog as a menu entry?  Here: Layer -> Transparency -> Keep
> > transparency
> 
> Have a look at menus/image-menu.xml.in in a recent CVS HEAD checkout
> or in 2.1.5. There's a commented out Layer Properties menu that has
> this and some other entries. We haven't yet figured out how useful
> these would be in the menu. Some feedback could be helpful.
> 
> 
> Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Prob compiling 2.1.5

2004-09-28 Thread Eric Pierce
I got it.  My system still thought gdk-pixbuf.loaders was in usr/local (after 
compiling gtk myself) even though it wasn't.  Rebooting refreshed something so it 
found the files in /opt from the gtk rpm. 

Thanks,
Eric P.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:58:24PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eric Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > gimpstock.c:303: error: `stock_anchor_16' undeclared here (not in a function)
> > gimpstock.c:303: error: initializer element is not constant
> 
> gdk-pixbuf-csource is not working correctly, probably because the
> gdk-pixbuf modules file wasn't installed. Check if
> ${sysconfdir}/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders exists and if so, if the
> pixbuf loaders referenced there do actually exist.
> 
> 
> Sven
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[Gimp-user] new transparency entry

2004-09-27 Thread Eric Pierce
Quick request.

Can we add (copy over) the 'Keep transparency' checkbox from the layer dialog as a 
menu entry?
Here:
Layer -> Transparency -> Keep transparency

Thanks,
Eric P.
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[Gimp-user] Prob compiling 2.1.5

2004-09-27 Thread Eric Pierce
I just installed a boatload of updated (built for SuSE) rpms from 
www.usr-local-bin.org. 

Here's what I installed:
atk-1.8.0-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
atk-devel-1.8.0-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
glib2-2.4.6-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
glib2-devel-2.4.6-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
gtk2-2.4.10-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
gtk2-devel-2.4.10-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
gtk2-engines-2.2.0-400.SuSE.ulb.2.i586.rpm
libcroco-0.6.0-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
libcroco-devel-0.6.0-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
librsvg-2.7.2-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
librsvg-devel-2.7.2-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
pango-1.6.0-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm
pango-devel-1.6.0-100.SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm

And here's where 'make' is pooping out:
 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/opt/gnome/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/opt/gnome/include/atk-1.0 
-I/opt/gnome/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 
-I/usr/include/freetype2/config -I/opt/gnome/include/glib-2.0 
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include 
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"LibGimpWidgets\" -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE 
-DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -g -O2 -Wall -MT gimpstock.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/gimpstock.Tpo -c 
gimpstock.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/gimpstock.o
gimpstock.c:303: error: `stock_anchor_16' undeclared here (not in a function)
gimpstock.c:303: error: initializer element is not constant
gimpstock.c:303: error: (near initialization for 
`gimp_stock_button_pixbufs[0].inline_data')
gimpstock.c:303: error: initializer element is not constant
gimpstock.c:303: error: (near initialization for `gimp_stock_button_pixbufs[0]')
gimpstock.c:304: error: `stock_duplicate_16' undeclared here (not in a function)
gimpstock.c:304: error: initializer element is not constant
gimpstock.c:304: error: (near initialization for 
`gimp_stock_button_pixbufs[1].inline_data')
gimpstock.c:304: error: initializer element is not constant
gimpstock.c:304: error: (near initialization for `gimp_stock_button_pixbufs[1]')
gimpstock.c:305: error: `stock_edit_16' undeclared here (not in a function)
gimpstock.c:305: error: initializer element is not constant
...

Any ideas?

Thanks for reading,
Eric Pierce
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[Gimp-user] Dependency (GTK/Glib) compile probs

2004-09-21 Thread Eric Pierce
This is probably insanely simple.

I'm trying to compile 2.1.5, so I had to update glib (2.4.6) on my system which I did 
with '--enable-shared' config flag.  All went well.

Then, gtk 2.4.9 configured (with --enable-shared) fine, but during 'make' it exists 
out looking for /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.la which glib placed here: 
/usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.la

What config option do I need to tell gtk where libgobject-2.0.la is now?

I know this is really a question for GTK's mailing list, but I don't feel like budging 
from the cozy comform of the gimp list.

Any help appreciated!
Eric Pierce
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Re: [Gimp-user] Thoughts about channels

2004-09-21 Thread Eric Pierce
> And please, try
> to be less aggressive on this mailing-list. If you want to, you can
> continue your pointless rants elsewhere but please let this list be a
> friendly place where GIMP users and developers can exchange their
> ideas and experiences and help each others.

a-fucking-greed (i.e., 'agreed!').

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[Gimp-user] PS layer mode read incorectly in Gimp

2004-09-15 Thread Eric Pierce
So I'm loading this psd file in Gimp that my co-worker did, and I notice it looks 
funny because the top layer mode was interpreted wrong by the Gimp.  
Here's the image.
http://epierce.freeshell.org/bugzilla/soft_light.psd

The top layer in this image is 'Soft Light' when loaded in Photoshop, but comes up 
'Addition' under Gimp 2.0.4.  Of course, I can manually switch it to 'Soft Light' and 
it looks like what my co-worker probably intended.

I notice this behavior under Gimp 2.0.4 (Win/Lin).  Under Gimp 2.1.4 (Linux) it comes 
up as 'Overlay'.  It look alright as 'Overlay', but it still probably should be 'Soft 
Light'.

Any ideas any one?  Should I bug report it?

Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop magic background eraser

2004-09-09 Thread Eric Pierce
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 08:14:05AM +0200, David Neary wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eric Pierce wrote:
> > Actually, it'd be nice if Gimp could pick up some of the properties of PS's erase 
> > background tool.
> 
> Would you mind describing how this tool works? Some screenshots
> would be brilliant. I am guessing that it's an erase tool with
> some kind of edge detection that doesn't delete things not in the
> same region as the starting seed point - is that accurate?

All I know is from a simple search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22background+eraser%22+photoshop&btnG=Google+Search

And about 5 minutes of reading.
http://www.basicphotoshop.com/tutz/pstutz33.htm

Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop magic background eraser

2004-09-08 Thread Eric Pierce
Actually, it'd be nice if Gimp could pick up some of the properties of PS's erase 
background tool.

Adding 'Tolerance' to 'color to alpha' would be good start; and maybe that's all 
that's really necessary for this function. 

How does everybody else remove backgrounds?

The other approaches I take are:
1. decomposing the image and a making mask from the layer with the best separation
2. using the path tool to break out a region and (once again) make a mask

Any techniques I'm missing?
Eric P.

On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 04:32:59AM +, Eric Pierce wrote:
> I use Filter->Color->Color to Alpha
> 
> Shit, and I thought Gimp had one up on PS there too.  Luckily, I got 3/4th of our 
> marketing department (there's 4 of us) using Gimp because they (and I) didn't think 
> you could cleanly remove backgrounds in PS.
> 
> Eric P.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 05:52:11PM +1000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 09:49 +0200, Michael Wagner wrote:
> > > Good morning,
> > > 
> > > You can find a magic background eraser in Photshop. How do I do this
> > > in Gimp? I have version 2.0.4.
> > 
> > What does it do? A lot of people on these lists have not or do not use
> > Photoshop, so you'll need to provide a bit of a description.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Malcolm
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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop magic background eraser

2004-09-08 Thread Eric Pierce
I use Filter->Color->Color to Alpha

Shit, and I thought Gimp had one up on PS there too.  Luckily, I got 3/4th of our 
marketing department (there's 4 of us) using Gimp because they (and I) didn't think 
you could cleanly remove backgrounds in PS.

Eric P.

On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 05:52:11PM +1000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 09:49 +0200, Michael Wagner wrote:
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > You can find a magic background eraser in Photshop. How do I do this
> > in Gimp? I have version 2.0.4.
> 
> What does it do? A lot of people on these lists have not or do not use
> Photoshop, so you'll need to provide a bit of a description.
> 
> Cheers,
> Malcolm
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Re: [Gimp-user] Windows compilation of RawPhoto 0.7

2004-09-02 Thread Eric Pierce
Hi,

First off, thanks for writing this plug-in.  There's some cool RAW options in the 
plugin that I was never knew about when converting RAW images.

Basically, it works for me on Win2000 Pro at work w/the static version of your plugin. 
 I need to try the dynamic one again.  I didn't have dcraw installed at the time I 
tried the dynamically linked binary (didn't know I needed dcraw installed - maybe add 
that to your install instructions and where to copy the dcraw binary in Windows?)

Two things:
1.  Should the top 5 check boxes be radio buttons so only one can be selected?  I 
selected all for shits 'n giggles and saw several conflicting flags being passed to 
dcraw.

2.  It seems your plugin is trying to open any file that Gimp tries to open regardless 
of extension.
Here's a screen:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/multimedia/dcraw.png

On the whole, I'm pleased to be using your plugin/dcraw.  Now I can removed the 
hundreds of megabytes of software that accompanied our camera (Canon G5).

Thanks and I'll report back again,
Eric P.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 06:00:36PM -0400, Matthew H. Plough wrote:
> Hi everyone --
> 
> I have compiled Paweł T. Jochym's RawPhoto 0.7 ( 
> http://ptj.rozeta.com.pl/Soft/RawPhoto ) for Windows, and need people to 
> test it. The plugin works perfectly on my computer, but I don't know if 
> this will be the case elsewhere. The plugin acts as a GIMP 2.0 front end 
> for dcraw (Windows binary at http://www.insflug.org/raw/ ), which 
> processes RAW digital camera images.
> 
> Would anyone be willing to test this plugin on Windows and give me 
> feedback as to how well it works? My compilation is located at 
> http://www.princeton.edu/~mplough/tmp/rawphoto-windows-0.7.zip . I also 
> have a sample image (of a Coast Guard cutter shot from a cruise in 
> Alaska) at http://www.princeton.edu/~mplough/tmp/CRW_0092.CRW .
> 
> Thank you,
> Matthew Plough
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Re: [Gimp-user] Chrome Effect

2004-08-18 Thread Eric Pierce
Check this one out.
http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat16/

On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 11:00:29AM +0100, Gearoid Donnellan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I think I may have posted about this before but I dont think I got
> a reply so forgive me for posting again.
> Im pretty new to the Gimp and so far Ive been trying to do some
> photoshop tutorials in it but I am having a major problem getting one
> of the effects the same as in PS.
> The effect is the Chrome one that is in PS. The tool dialog looks like this:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/drakonslair/Chrome/chromesetting.jpg
> 
> Basically its starts out with a black background with five flares in
> it, one in each corner and one in the center. After the chrome effect
> is applied the image should resemble this:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/drakonslair/Chrome/afterstep5.jpg
> 
> I want to end up with something that looks like this:
> 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/drakonslair/Chrome/finaleffect.jpg
> 
> I used the Tomcat tutorial to get something similar but its not really
> good enough so I was hoping you could help
> 
> Really appreciate any help
> Gerry
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Re: [Gimp-user] Installing 2.1 w/2.0

2004-07-25 Thread Eric Pierce
That worked.  Thanks.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 06:58:55PM +1000, Owen wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 02:32:10 +
> Eric Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ok, I want to install 2.1 side-by-side with 2.0.
> > 
> > Everyone says to change the prefix (which I've never done before).  Is that as 
> > simple as this?
> > ./configure --prefix=~\gimp_dev && make && make install
> 
> 
> I would do./configure --help 
> 
> and have a good read. Then I would build it in /opt rather than mess up your home 
> directory. So do configure like this
> 
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/opt (plus any other options you want)
>  
> make
> 
> Then su to root
> 
> make install
> 
> 
> Then you will end up with all the libraries and binaries in /opt
> 
> Also a .gimp-2.1 directory will be created in your home directory that will contail 
> all the brushes and gradients etc like in your current .gimp-2.0 directory (or 
> .gimp-1.2).
> 
> To start your gimp-2.1, you will need to issue
> 
>   /opt/bin/gimp-2.1 
> 
> 
> Try that and see what happens.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Owen
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[Gimp-user] Installing 2.1 w/2.0

2004-07-22 Thread Eric Pierce
Ok, I want to install 2.1 side-by-side with 2.0.

Everyone says to change the prefix (which I've never done before).  Is that as simple 
as this?
./configure --prefix=~\gimp_dev && make && make install

Thanks,
Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] glossy transparent buttons tutorial

2004-07-22 Thread Eric Pierce
One more comment...

Can I suggest that you should submit this to either gimp.org or gug.sunsite.dk ?

It's nice having a somewhat central repository of Gimp tutorials instead of them 
scattered all over the web.

See ya!

On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 07:03:43AM +, Gerog Veiz  wrote:
> hi gimp users!
> 
> Please have a look at 
> http://de.geocities.com/studio_gmv/
> and tell me what you think about this tutorial.
> I would like to know if it works on gimp 1.2 if someone could try.
> 
> kind regards
> gmv
> 
> 
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[Gimp-user] missing key shortcuts in 2.1.1

2004-07-18 Thread Eric Pierce
I was trying to update the ps-menurc file (for Photoshop key shortcuts in Gimp) for 
2.1.1, and a few entries seem to be missing from the menurc file.

I'm guessing there's more, but here's what I found so far (2.0.* format):
; (gtk_accel_path "/New Layer..." "")
; (gtk_accel_path "/Raise Layer" "")
; (gtk_accel_path "/Lower Layer" "")
; (gtk_accel_path "/Layer to Top" "")
; (gtk_accel_path "/Layer to Bottom" "")

Also, when I try to dynamically set any of these, Gimp seg faults. 

Let me know if I should bug report this.
Thanks,
Eric Pierce
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[Gimp-user] Build probs w/2.1

2004-06-10 Thread Eric Pierce
I just upgrade to SuSE 9.1.
I grabbed the following rpms from www.usr-local-bin.org:
gtk-2.4.2 (plus devel)
ATK 1.6.0 (plus devel)
Glib 2.4.2 (plus devel)
Pango 1.4.0 (plus devel)

'configure' goes smoothly, but during 'make' it craps out with the following:
gimpviewable.c: In function `gimp_viewable_get_dummy_pixbuf':
gimpviewable.c:739: error: `stock_question_64' undeclared (first use in
this function)
gimpviewable.c:739: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
gimpviewable.c:739: error: for each function it appears in.)
make[3]: *** [gimpviewable.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.1.0/app/core'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.1.0/app'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.1.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2


I'm stumped.  Any ideas, anyone?
Thanks,
Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferencesdialog

2004-06-07 Thread Eric Pierce
> Sven Neumann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>>>What do you need done?
>>
>>
>> Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you
>> not understand?
>
> Um, no it doesn't. I just has a short blurb about little response on the
> dev
> mailing list and needing help with the Preferences dialog.

My bad.  I didn't noticed the forwarded e-mail.  I've been so busy at work
lately that I now skip every 3rd word in e-mails, so that must've been
where I missed it.

I'm not sure if I'd be much help.  I'm probably too beginner for gtk2/C on
the Gimp.

Eric
>
> --
> Andrew Gaffney
> Network Administrator
> Skyline Aeronautics, LLC.
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>
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog

2004-06-07 Thread Eric Pierce
What do you need done?

> Hi,
>
> I am forwarding this mail to gimp-user because there hasn't been any
> response on the gimp-developer mailing-list. Perhaps I can reach a
> potential contributor here or at least get some user feedback...
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Hi-Res Screen Captures

2004-05-06 Thread Eric Pierce
Exactly.  What you're after isn't possible.

Screen shots are pixelated in print.  To get your 300dpi, scale the image,
but use 'None' for interpolation type.  That'll maintain the pixely look,
but it won't be some smeared, blurry looking screenshot.  It'll be crisp.

The only way you'd get what you want is if all of Gimp's icons were vector
based (then you could scale to your hearts delight.)

Eric

> Hi...
> I think it  a conceptual error wanting 300DPI screenshots - Maybe not -
> but wait  second - the GIMP interface is designed to  be displayed at
> typical
> monitor resolutions -  from 72 to 96 dpi.
>
> On the other hand, a monitor will have 15'' to 17'' inhes, and your print
> out
> of a screenshot should be a few inches accross - so the 1000 pixels wide,
> 15
> inch at  96 dpi screenshot would make for a 5 inch wide ate 300dpi
> screenshot
> - no matter.
>
> If you do intend to actually make printouts of 15'', 17'' in paper,
> nonetheless, a "real world" screen shot will do - the interface text may
> appear aliased or blurred in a good quality printing - but hey---that's
> how
> it looks like on the screen. :-) And on top of that,  you may still try to
> increase the quality of a screenshot scaled up to 3000 pixels using the
> Gimp
> itself, if there is the need.
>
> One last thing - if you actually can find a 3000 pixel screenshot, the
> interface - at least the icons - will appear proportionally small - you
> won't
> be able to achieve better icons than from a 1024x768 screenshot.
>
> Anyway, you may be planning something different, that I had not grasped at
> all.  But if you are after "300dpi screenshots" just because the clerk at
> your printshop told you so, the way to go is to scale up a plain
> screenshot.
>
> regards,
>
>   JS
>   -><-
>
>
> On Thursday 06 May 2004 08:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >> Can anyone direct me to a place on the web where I can find
>> >> 150PPI or 300PPI (prefer 300PPI) GIMP screen shots from all
>> >> the major platforms... Mac, Linux and Windows? I am putting
>> >> together some GIMP propaganda, and need some help. Ideally, I
>> >> need a couple from each platform to satisfy my situation.
>> >
>> >Please keep us informed when your propaganda is finished, we're
>> >always interested :)
>> >
>> >For a 17" screen, 300dpi is about 4000x3000, isn't it? I don't
>> >know of any such screenshots myself. There certainly aren't any
>> >on www.gimp.org. If you find any, I'd be interested in seeing
>> >them too.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Dave.
>> >
>> >--
>> >   David Neary,
>> >   Lyon, France
>> >  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> The key is for the brochures to look good when printed out. I'me trying
>> to
>> locate an app on the Windows side that outputs screens in hi-res but I
>> haven't had any luck.
>>
>> Hey, what did you think of the MacGIMP ad in Mac Design Magazine?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mitch Featherston
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[Gimp-user] Environment settings & big images

2004-04-22 Thread Eric Pierce
Hi ho,

I'm working with a relatively large RGB image (4368 x 3384px / 2MB file
size / status bar says 199MB on load).  Once I begin editing the image,
the memory usage quickly gets up around 600MB and up, and my system comes
to a crawl as it goes to the hard disk for memory space.

I'm wondering if my Environment settings are screwed up.
Min. number of undo lvl: 25
Max. undo memory: 50 mb
Tile Cache Size: 96 mb
Conservative Mem. usage: checked

I'm running: Windows 2000
392MB ram
1 GHz cpu

On PotatoShop (forced to used at gunpoint), there are no problems editing
this image or other large images.

Any ideas?  Thanks for reading.
Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.0 - Congrats!

2004-03-24 Thread Eric Pierce
Well done, everyone!

It's been a pure joy following the 1.3 devel series and watching all the
new goodies & ideas pour into the Gimp.

You are all a part of something truly big and beautiful!

My sincerest appreciation,
Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] menu font

2004-03-23 Thread Eric Pierce
To affect fonts in all GTK2 apps, I have the following in my ~/
.gtkrc-2.0 file

style "user-font"
{
   font_name="century 12"
}
widget_class "*" style "user-font"

Of course, you can change the font to whatever you want.
> Hi,
>
> I use gimp2.0pre3 with debian/sid; the menu-font is too small but I cannot
> find any knob to enlarge it.
> Can I get any hint?
> Thanks
>
> Peter
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Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Eric Pierce
> Sven Neumann wrote:
>> IMO it's not very nice to ask for a timeframe for the availability of
>> the installer package. By providing you this package, Jernej is doing
>> you a favor on a voluntary basis. You shouldn't put him under pressure
>> by asking for a time frame. That is about as bad (or maybe even worse)
>> as asking the developers to set a date for the 2.0.0 release.
>
> I don't think that asking necessarily puts pressure on anyone.

If you're asked constantly (he is on the Gimp-win mailing list), I would
guess it may add a smidge of tension to the everyday.

>> If you
>> need the Win32 installer at a certain point in time, you can easily
>> create it yourself.
>
> For a very unusual definition of "easily". Building the GIMP on Win32 is
> not that easy.
Not sure if this is easy or not.  I haven't had a chance to setup the
build environment in Win, but...
http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/HowToCompileGimp/MicrosoftWindows

Eric Pierce
Ps. Jernej went skiing!


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[Gimp-user] Startup image...

2004-02-06 Thread Eric Pierce
So

has the Gimp startup image been decided upon?

There sure were a slew of cool startup images over the course of the
development series.

If it hasn't been decided yet, will a vote ensue?

Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] Updating text doesn't trigger

2004-01-27 Thread Eric Pierce
Hmmm...

Updating pre-existing text in an image with a text layer doesn't trigger
Gimp that any changes have occurred (ie., you can close the image and Gimp
won't throw up the 'Changes were made to 'image'.  Close anyway?' dialog -
hence you lose your changes).

I'm currently using Pre2 for Windows.  I'll check it at home on my Linux
box after work.

Can someone confirm/deny this anomoly before I file a bug report?

Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Dot for Dot

2004-01-27 Thread Eric Pierce
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200205/msg00394.html

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-01-27 at 1804.18 +):
>> Trying to find out what the Dot for Dot menu item is for. At the moment
>> it
>> is a bit of a mystery. Can anyone help?
>
> It makes Gimp display in pixels or in real units. Maybe a visual
> example will help you. Compare dot for dot on and off for an image of
> 512 * 512 pixels with DPI 72 * 144. One will look like a square, the
> other as a rectangle.
>
> GSR
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Re: [Gimp-user] Clipping Path

2004-01-19 Thread Eric Pierce
I added this enhancement request as well (bug #131982 )
I was wrong.  It's an eps file that can save a clipped path, not tif.

Eric Pierce

> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> For page layout work, at work we use (don't laugh) PageMaker.  Me
>> and the other guy recently learned that we could import raster
>> images w/transparency and actually have it display properly in
>> PageMaker.  We also learned that the tif must have a clipping path.
>> Basically, it's a path with a special designation as a 'clipping
>> path' and everything inside the path will show, and everything
>> outside the clipping path is transparent.  There's a little rivalry
>> at work because my colleage uses Photoshop while I use The Gimp.  As
>> it would be, PS could do a clipping path, but I couldn't see that
>> Gimp could.  In PS, you bring up the context menu with the paths
>> menu up and designate which path will be the 'clipping path'.
>> That's it.  I don't know about the internals of the tif file, or if
>> it's even a recognized spec in tif.  I can throw up an image
>> somewhere if anyone is curious to check it out.
>
> Clipping paths are a well-known concept but just like you I don't know
> much about the implementation and how standardized this is. Did you
> check if our bug-tracker has an enhancement request for clipping paths
> yet? If not, it would be nice if you could file one and add as many
> information as possible.
>
>
> Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] tif file w/multiple pages

2004-01-19 Thread Eric Pierce
Filed bug #131975 - "Tiff multipage w/multiple warning msg."

Eric Pierce

> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'm having some problems with the new support for multipage tifs.
>>
>> First, I get the following errors.
>> tif: Unknown field with tag 33949 (0x849d) encountered
>>
>> And these two errors repeat for the nubmer of pages in the tif.
>> tif: Unknown field with tag 33950 (0x849e) encountered
>> tif: Unknown field with tag 33951 (0x849f) encountered
>>
>> The tif image opens, and there is a layer for each page, but the
>> height of the image is scaled 50% (but the width is fine).  I'm
>> basically making my comparisons with Microsofts Imaging because
>> that's the only program that I know that properly opens multipage
>> tifs.
>>
>> Also, my multipage tifs are created whenever someone faxes me.  They fax
>> me and I receive an e-mail with a tif attached.
>
> As far as I know such TIFF files created from fax messages have
> different resolutions on the X and Y axes. So if the plug-in manages
> to read in the resolutions correctly, the image should look directly
> if you disable "Dot for Dot" in the View menu. There's a preference
> option that makes this behaviour the default.
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] tif file w/multiple pages

2004-01-19 Thread Eric Pierce
That did the trick.  Thanks a lot.
Haven't got Pre2 up yet.  I wander if any of the error messages I
mentioned below have been addressed...

Eric Pierce

> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'm having some problems with the new support for multipage tifs.
>>
>> First, I get the following errors.
>> tif: Unknown field with tag 33949 (0x849d) encountered
>>
>> And these two errors repeat for the nubmer of pages in the tif.
>> tif: Unknown field with tag 33950 (0x849e) encountered
>> tif: Unknown field with tag 33951 (0x849f) encountered
>>
>> The tif image opens, and there is a layer for each page, but the
>> height of the image is scaled 50% (but the width is fine).  I'm
>> basically making my comparisons with Microsofts Imaging because
>> that's the only program that I know that properly opens multipage
>> tifs.
>>
>> Also, my multipage tifs are created whenever someone faxes me.  They fax
>> me and I receive an e-mail with a tif attached.
>
> As far as I know such TIFF files created from fax messages have
> different resolutions on the X and Y axes. So if the plug-in manages
> to read in the resolutions correctly, the image should look directly
> if you disable "Dot for Dot" in the View menu. There's a preference
> option that makes this behaviour the default.
>
>
> Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Clipping Path

2004-01-14 Thread Eric Pierce
Joao,

Clipping Paths are a new concept to me too.

First let me explain a tad...

For page layout work, at work we use (don't laugh) PageMaker.  Me and the
other guy recently learned that we could import raster images
w/transparency and actually have it display properly in PageMaker.  We
also learned that the tif must have a clipping path.  Basically, it's a
path with a special designation as a 'clipping path' and everything inside
the path will show, and everything outside the clipping path is
transparent.  There's a little rivalry at work because my colleage uses
Photoshop while I use The Gimp.  As it would be, PS could do a clipping
path, but I couldn't see that Gimp could.  In PS, you bring up the context
menu with the paths menu up and designate which path will be the 'clipping
path'.  That's it.  I don't know about the internals of the tif file, or
if it's even a recognized spec in tif.  I can throw up an image somewhere
if anyone is curious to check it out.

At work I'd like us both to drop Windows all together and go with
Scribus/Gimp, but that might not happen anytime soon.

Eric Pierce
> On Monday 29 December 2003 15:25, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> I saw some mention (mailing list early 2001) of Gimp & the ability
>> to set a clipping path.
>>
>> What is the current status on this?
>>
>> Has it been implemented or is it on the drawing board?
>
> What would such a  clipping path do?
> I mean...there are "clipping paths" in postscript, and GIMP selections
> have the functionalities that those have (and a  couple more)
>>
>> Just curious.
>> Eric Pierce
>>
>>
>>
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[Gimp-user] tif file w/multiple pages

2004-01-14 Thread Eric Pierce
I'm having some problems with the new support for multipage tifs.

First, I get the following errors.
tif: Unknown field with tag 33949 (0x849d) encountered

And these two errors repeat for the nubmer of pages in the tif.
tif: Unknown field with tag 33950 (0x849e) encountered
tif: Unknown field with tag 33951 (0x849f) encountered

The tif image opens, and there is a layer for each page, but the height of
the image is scaled 50% (but the width is fine).  I'm basically making my
comparisons with Microsofts Imaging because that's the only program that I
know that properly opens multipage tifs.

Also, my multipage tifs are created whenever someone faxes me.  They fax
me and I receive an e-mail with a tif attached.

Is Andrey Kiselev on this list?  Maybe I could send him one of my tifs for
examination (since he implemented this feature in The Gimp).

Thanks for reading... I appreciate any suggestions.
Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-09 Thread Eric Pierce
Without thinking all that hard about the details of your problem, why
don't you just compile gimp from source?  Then you'll find out what you
really need to compile/install.

Tip: use 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install'.  It'll do a 'make
install' for you and make custom RPMs of anything your installing.  Then
you can cleanly remove programs down the road and delete the bloated
directory where you compile any given program.

Just my 2 bits.
Eric

> Which freetype2 version do you have.
>
> I tried to make a rpm with the following command, just in case I need to
> uninstall it.
>
> rpm -ta gimp-2.0pre1.tar.bz2
>
> I get the following:
>
> error: Failed build dependencies:
> gimp-print-devel >= 4.2.0 is needed by gimp-2.0pre1-1
> librsvg2-devel >= 2.0 is needed by gimp-2.0pre1-1
> gtkhtml2-devel >= 2.0.0 is needed by gimp-2.0pre1-1
>
> I then tried to download in install these packages and finally ended up
> with:
> Some package requested cannot be installed:
> librsvg2-2.2.3-2.i386 (due to unsatisfied freetype[>= 2.0.1])
> do you agree ?
>
> and when installing freetype-2.1.2-2.rpm I get really into a dependency
> problem asking about 100packages to uninstall such as OpenOffice etc.
>
> It is not provided by MDK anymore as an rpm, just source rpm?
> How do I make an rpm from a src.rpm?
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 13:49, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
>> ??
>> It compiled and installed flawlesly on my Mandrake 9.2 system.
>> I think freetype 2 came installed by default here.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I used no RPM. Just urpmi for the dependencies, and them
>> configure, make, make install.
>>
>> Regards,
>>  JS
>>  -><-
>>
>> On Friday 09 January 2004 18:00, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
>> > [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre
>> > Date: Today 18:00:03
>> > From: Thomas Spuhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (TUSONIX, Inc.)
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> > Message was signed with unknown key.
>> > The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
>> > Problem: OpenPGP plug-in was not specified.
>> > Use the 'Settings->Configure KMail->Security' dialog to specify the
>> > plug-in or ask your system administrator to do that for you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anybody been able to install it on Mandrake 9.2
>> > I'll get into a dependency hell when trying to make an rpm.
>> > The main problem is to get freetype 2 that will install w/o
>> > dependency problems
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >
>> > End of signed message
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[Gimp-user] removing halftones from an image

2004-01-09 Thread Eric Pierce
I've scanned an image.

Here it is:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/web_phile_mgr/images/guy.png

I want to lost the halftones (I think that's what it's called - ie., the
dots).  I did a blur and sharpen, and that works OK.  But I thought I saw
a tutorial on this once on a smarter way to "remove" these.

Anyone got a quick link?

Thanks,
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Re: [Gimp-user] about gimp-2.0pre1.tar.bz2

2004-01-08 Thread Eric Pierce
> HI
>
> Thanks for the advice.  As you can see I typed gimp-1.3 in a terminal
> and got the following.
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] david]$ gimp-1.3
>> gimp-1.3: error while loading shared libraries:
>> libgimpcolor-1.3.so.24: cannot open shared object file: No such file
>> or directory
I had that happen too (first time I've seen this problem for Gimp-1.3.x
releases).

This is what I did (and it worked).
After doing 'make install' (I use 'checkinstall' by the way), you'll need
to make sure the directory where 'libgimpcolor-1.3.so.24' is installed is
included in the file /etc/ld.so.conf.  In my case I believe it was
/usr/local/lib

Now type 'ldconfig' as root.

Eric
>
>
> I did have one thought while compiling, do you need to have installed
> gimp 1.3 already?
>
> I also clicked the exe file in /usr/local/bin/gimp-1.3...nothing
> happens though.
>
> cheers
>
> David
>
>
>
> Eric Pierce wrote:
>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I have downloaded and compiled and installed the above file.
>>>
>>>Only one problemit wont run.gimp does not open.
>>>
>>>There seemed to be no problems in the configure stage.  So I am stumped.
>>>
>>>
>>Can you give some detail here?
>>
>>You said you installed it, so you must have a binary floating around.
>> Try
>>running gimp-1.3 in a terminal and post any messages you get.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I am running mdk9.2.
>>>
>>>Is this something of a bug or is there some compile option which I have
>>>missed??
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>david
>>>
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Re: [Gimp-user] about gimp-2.0pre1.tar.bz2

2004-01-08 Thread Eric Pierce
> Hi
>
> I have downloaded and compiled and installed the above file.
>
> Only one problemit wont run.gimp does not open.
>
> There seemed to be no problems in the configure stage.  So I am stumped.
Can you give some detail here?

You said you installed it, so you must have a binary floating around.  Try
running gimp-1.3 in a terminal and post any messages you get.

>
> I am running mdk9.2.
>
> Is this something of a bug or is there some compile option which I have
> missed??
>
> Cheers
>
> david
>
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[Gimp-user] Crop selection missing top line

2004-01-04 Thread Eric Pierce
Under Gimp 1.3.23:
When I crop an image, the top crop line is not there.
Anyone else notice this?

Please someone validate/invalidate this so a bug report can get filed.

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[Gimp-user] Clipping Path

2003-12-29 Thread Eric Pierce
I saw some mention (mailing list early 2001) of Gimp & the ability to set
a clipping path.

What is the current status on this?

Has it been implemented or is it on the drawing board?

Just curious.
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Re: [Gimp-user] ESC for cancel in full-screen mode

2003-12-10 Thread Eric Pierce
> On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 03:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 04:12:10PM -0600, Eric Pierce
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > However, would you consider removing ESC as a binding to pop you out
>> of
>> > full-screen mode?  I think F11 is a sufficient (and common) toggle for
>>
>> Well, ESC has a very low probability of being remapped by e.g. a window
>> manager. F11 is far more often mapped to some wm functionality.
>>
>> And the basic problem with your approach that I see is that ESC has the
>> perfect meaning for going out of fullscreen mode. It's the thing users
>> naturally try. F11 is about the last key users will try when they want
>> to get out of full-screen mode.
>
> Dejavu perhaps, but can't help myself. F11 became a common toggle for
> fullscreen mode across browsers. But I know Marc doesn't quite accept an
> 'everyone else does it' ;).
Yes, Mozilla/Netscape, Opera & IE toggle w/F11.  Any others?

> In case the fullscreen mode is to become useful for editing too (and I
> believe that is even more helpful) it shouldn't exit the mode on Esc for
> the reasons Eric described. Making it a pain for artists using GIMP
> extensively because it may be confusing to new ocasional users is not
> the thing to do.
How about this then?  If there is a menu/dialog box already open, ESC
cancels that item only.  If nothing else is open, ESC quits full-screen
mode.  Both camps are happy, right?

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Re: [Gimp-user] ESC for cancel in full-screen mode

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Pierce
With Gimp 1.3.x, open up an image and hit F11.  It'll toggle  full-screen
mode.

You can also add as many extra goodies (like rulers, status bar, etc.) as
you want, or run it w/o anything except the image.  Really nice and
configurable (check preferences for default full-screen mode settings).

Eric

> Eric Pierce wrote:
>> I use full-screen mode a lot... and love it.
>
> Excuse the ignorance, although 'full-screen mode' conjures up some
> thoughts, what exactly is it?
>
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[Gimp-user] ESC for cancel in full-screen mode

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Pierce
I use full-screen mode a lot... and love it.

However, would you consider removing ESC as a binding to pop you out of
full-screen mode?  I think F11 is a sufficient (and common) toggle for
full-screen on/off.  I always use ESC to cancel out of dialogs (Curves
dialog, Levels dialog, etc.)  But in full-screen mode, ESC cancels the
dialog _and_ takes me out of full-screen mode.

Or if I use a mnemonic to pull down a menu while if full-screen mode, I
cannot cancel out of the menu without hitting ESC.  Again that takes me
out of full-screen mode as well.

What does anyone else think?

Just my 2 bits.
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[Gimp-user] Kerning for text tool

2003-11-20 Thread Eric Pierce
Will 'kerning' ever be implemented for the text tool?

Would it be ok to do a 'feature request' for this in bugzilla if it's not
currently being considered?

Thanks,
Eric Pierce
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Re: Dynamic Shortcuts - was Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP at COMDEX

2003-11-15 Thread Eric Pierce
> You are a  Gimp 'power user' and you are probably a good keyboard player,

Basically, there are people who utilize mnemonic use and there are those
who don't.  It's nothing to do with the Gimp.

> ALT-L,C,C sounds not like easy

Yeah, that does look a little rough out of context.  However, as you type
'ALT-L,C,C' you will think 'Alt-L(evels)-C(olors)-C(urves)' as you watch
the menus pop by.  After a while, mnemonic combinations becomes an
unconscious flick of the wrist as you become particularily comfortable
with them.  And there's a logic to it - a logic in how you 'locate' any
given menu item within the menu tree.  People who don't use mnemonics
remind me of people who never learned to touch type.  They get the job
done, but it's inefficient as hell.  Same goes for those who don't use
mnemonics - once your hand leaves the keyboard to grab for the mouse, you
lose your momentum.  Granted you could argue that the Gimp is mouse
intensive. And obviously there are some things you simply must use the
mouse for, but some people would be surprised just how much (and how
quickly) you can get work done in the Gimp by extreme keyboard
utilization.  (wow... that could be a new X Game..)

> Then three letters
> to memorize for each function to call it's not easy.
I wouldn't recommend using mnemonics for each function either.  I'd
keyboard shortcut as much as possible.  The few stragglers are where
mnemonics step in to save the day.  If you use keyboard shortcuts
extensively, then the rest of the menu functions you need to get to can be
handled competently by mnemonics.

Shit, did I say too much?
Oh, I forgot to mention that I have Suriphobia.
Eric Pierce
Ps.  Did someone claim mnemonics were ergonomic?  Maybe they are somehow.

> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:02:17 +0100
> Jakub Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I usually use features from the layer menu without adding shortcuts for
>> them. A simple Alt+L,C,C gets me the curve tool, Alt+L,C,L the levels
>> tool. There's a couple of functions I use as often. Mnemonics are a
>> default so wherever I go, they work (on the same locale).
>>
> ALT-L,C,C sounds not like easy and ergonomic to me. Don't know for you
> but for me ALT-L with only one hand is not ergonomic. Then three letters
> to memorize for each function to call it's not easy.
> And for the localisation I hope (but I am not sure ) that all the
> translator
> really check all menus and dialogs to avoid letters duplications.
>
>> So please don't play down their usefulness. I love them.
>>
> You are a  Gimp 'power user' and you are probably a good keyboard player,
> no doubt that you can achieve something powerful with mnemonics.
> But you probably understand that consedering the wide range of Gimp users
> and
> the world of artists it's hard for me to imagine a large usefulness.
>
> @+
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Re: [Gimp-user] pixelate question

2003-11-14 Thread Eric Pierce
JB,
Here's sort of what I was going for.
http://epierce.freeshell.org/pics/pixelate.jpg

Actually, this wasn't so hard to do by hand (now that I've tried it). 
It's a little off from what I was after (I wanted all the blocks to be
perfect squares), but this more or less works.

A script-fu might pull this off well...  Some kind of gradually increasing
pixel effect from one direction to the other.  I'll work one up once I
have a moment... a moment to learn script-fu better that is.

Thanks.
Eric Pierce

>
>
> HI there.
>
> My "filter all layers" on GIMP 1.2.5 here has two action buttons at
> the bottom "apply constant" and "apply varying". You are describing
> the effects of Apply Constant. Wit apply varying it pops up the
> window of the desired filter (pixelate, in this case), perform it on
> the bottom layer and pops up a second time the filter window, perform
> it on the top layer, and finally displays a confirmation box, that,
> when accepted performs varying the parameter.
>
> I tested it before answering your e-mail, earlier ...works just fine.
>
> Regards,
>   JS
>   -><-
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday 13 November 2003 6:24 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> JB,
>> Hmm...  that didn't seem to work.  Maybe I screwed something up.
>> Was that supposed to gradually pixelate each layer more than the
>> next?  I'm using Gimp-win (I'm at work).  Each layer was equally
>> pixelized the same amount.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm not working on several layers.  Just one layer - a
>> photo of people.  I want it to gradually (from right to left) go
>> from no pixelation to slight pixelation, and then larger and larger
>> pixelation so there would be nice chunky squares on the left side.
>>
>> Signed "Stumped"
>>
>> > On Thursday 13 November 2003 1:04 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> >> I'm trying to take a photo and have it gradually pixelate from
>> >> small boxes to big boxes.  Can't figure it out except for doing
>> >> it manually (ugh).
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?  Thanks for reading!
>> >> Eric Pierce
>> >
>> > ->filter->filter all layers,
>> > apply varying , and the wizard does the rest. :-)
>> >
>> > I just am not certain if filter all layers is always there or
>> > needs GIMP-GAP to be installed.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >JS
>> >-><-
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] pixelate question

2003-11-14 Thread Eric Pierce
Opps... got it this time.  I think I was selecting the same pixelize value
both times.

However, this still isn't what I was after.  I have just one layer and I
want it to pixelate gradually (from right to left) more and more.

thanks all the same, JB.
eric pierce

>
>
> HI there.
>
> My "filter all layers" on GIMP 1.2.5 here has two action buttons at
> the bottom "apply constant" and "apply varying". You are describing
> the effects of Apply Constant. Wit apply varying it pops up the
> window of the desired filter (pixelate, in this case), perform it on
> the bottom layer and pops up a second time the filter window, perform
> it on the top layer, and finally displays a confirmation box, that,
> when accepted performs varying the parameter.
>
> I tested it before answering your e-mail, earlier ...works just fine.
>
> Regards,
>   JS
>   -><-
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday 13 November 2003 6:24 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> JB,
>> Hmm...  that didn't seem to work.  Maybe I screwed something up.
>> Was that supposed to gradually pixelate each layer more than the
>> next?  I'm using Gimp-win (I'm at work).  Each layer was equally
>> pixelized the same amount.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm not working on several layers.  Just one layer - a
>> photo of people.  I want it to gradually (from right to left) go
>> from no pixelation to slight pixelation, and then larger and larger
>> pixelation so there would be nice chunky squares on the left side.
>>
>> Signed "Stumped"
>>
>> > On Thursday 13 November 2003 1:04 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> >> I'm trying to take a photo and have it gradually pixelate from
>> >> small boxes to big boxes.  Can't figure it out except for doing
>> >> it manually (ugh).
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?  Thanks for reading!
>> >> Eric Pierce
>> >
>> > ->filter->filter all layers,
>> > apply varying , and the wizard does the rest. :-)
>> >
>> > I just am not certain if filter all layers is always there or
>> > needs GIMP-GAP to be installed.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >JS
>> >-><-
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Bugs?

2003-11-14 Thread Eric Pierce
> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> #1 If I have 2 or more linked layers and I use the move tool to try
>> to move all the layers (with mouse or arrow keys), only the
>> currently selected layer moves as opposed to all the linked layers.
>> In Gimp 1.2.x, all linked layers move together when moved.
>
> In GIMP-1.3 all linked layers move together if the layer you are
> moving is linked as well.
Ah... I see.  This has changed a tad from Gimp 1.2.x.  In 1.2.x, the
current selected layer counted as a linked layer whether the link box was
checked or not, whereas in 1.3.x I must select the link box on the current
selected layer in order to include it with the other linked layers.  That
works.


>> #2 In Gimp 1.2.x, an asterisk appears next to the file name in the
>> title bar when changes have been made to an image.  I don't see an
>> asterisk in 1.3.  Not a real biggie.  Was it left out on purpose?
>> Or am I missing a preference setting somewhere?
>
> You are missing a Preference setting. See "Image Windows->Title and
> Status" and check what the gimprc-1.3 manpage says.
Thanks, Brix.   %D* does the trick.


>> #3 With an image open, do View->Info Window.  Don't close the Info
>> Window.  Now click on the image to give it focus and do View->Info
>> Window again.  The Info Window doesn't raise above the image.
>> Shouldn't it come to the top and receive focus?
>
> Yes indeed. Please file a bug report for this. But the the info window
> as is is supposed to be replaced in the short term anyway...

I will.

>
>> #4 This next one I've only seen on 1.3.22 under Windows.  In
>> fullscreen mode, I see no indication of a selected area (ie., no
>> marching ants) when I make a selection.  Note: I did pump up the ant
>> marching speed to 75.  I'll have to reset that and see what happens
>> tomorrow at work.
>
> Again, you missed a Preference setting. Fullscreen mode is now fully
> configurable and the default setup is to have the fullscreen view show
> the image w/o any layer or selection boundaries. (Is anyone actually
> reading what I write into the NEWS file??).
>

Er... didn't catch that one.  Thanks for the tip.

>> #5 I've noticed some artifacts when doing work at high zoom levels.  To
>> replicate this, draw a little something (most anything will work), now
>> zoom in on an area.  Next select an area, copy it and move it around
>> with
>> the arrow keys.
>> Here's what I got just now:
>> http://epierce.freeshell.org/images/no_5.png
>> See all the 1 pixel high artifacts that were left behind as I moved the
>> image up to the left and right?  It seems this only works if your zoom
>> ratio becomes some exotic ratio like 167:83 as opposed to 1:4 or 4:1.
>> Could this be related to Bug 124073
>> (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124073)?
>
> I can easily reproduce that here. I thought there already was a report
> about it in bugzilla, but I can't seem to locate it now. Please file a
> bug report about it and attach no_5.png to it.
Will do.

Thanks everybody.
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Re: [Gimp-user] pixelate question

2003-11-13 Thread Eric Pierce
JB,
Hmm...  that didn't seem to work.  Maybe I screwed something up.  Was that
supposed to gradually pixelate each layer more than the next?  I'm using
Gimp-win (I'm at work).  Each layer was equally pixelized the same amount.

Anyway, I'm not working on several layers.  Just one layer - a photo of
people.  I want it to gradually (from right to left) go from no pixelation
to slight pixelation, and then larger and larger pixelation so there would
be nice chunky squares on the left side.

Signed "Stumped"
> On Thursday 13 November 2003 1:04 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> I'm trying to take a photo and have it gradually pixelate from
>> small boxes to big boxes.  Can't figure it out except for doing it
>> manually (ugh).
>>
>> Any ideas?  Thanks for reading!
>> Eric Pierce
>>
>
> ->filter->filter all layers,
> apply varying , and the wizard does the rest. :-)
>
> I just am not certain if filter all layers is always there or needs
> GIMP-GAP to be installed.
>
> Regards,
>   JS
>   -><-
>
>
>
>
>

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[Gimp-user] pixelate question

2003-11-13 Thread Eric Pierce
I'm trying to take a photo and have it gradually pixelate from small boxes
to big boxes.  Can't figure it out except for doing it manually (ugh).

Any ideas?  Thanks for reading!
Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] Bugs?

2003-11-06 Thread Eric Pierce
I'm going to list a few minor glitches I've noticed with recent builds of
the Gimp (1.3.17-1.3.22), and I hope a few other people would either
verify or counter these items before I fill out any bug reports.

All of these issues in Gimp for Linux and Windows (except where noted).

#1 If I have 2 or more linked layers and I use the move tool to try to
move all the layers (with mouse or arrow keys), only the currently
selected layer moves as opposed to all the linked layers.  In Gimp 1.2.x,
all linked layers move together when moved.

#2 In Gimp 1.2.x, an asterisk appears next to the file name in the title
bar when changes have been made to an image.  I don't see an asterisk in
1.3.  Not a real biggie.  Was it left out on purpose?  Or am I missing a
preference setting somewhere?

#3 With an image open, do View->Info Window.  Don't close the Info Window.
 Now click on the image to give it focus and do View->Info Window again. 
The Info Window doesn't raise above the image.  Shouldn't it come to the
top and receive focus?

#4 This next one I've only seen on 1.3.22 under Windows.  In fullscreen
mode, I see no indication of a selected area (ie., no marching ants) when
I make a selection.  Note: I did pump up the ant marching speed to 75. 
I'll have to reset that and see what happens tomorrow at work.

#5 I've noticed some artifacts when doing work at high zoom levels.  To
replicate this, draw a little something (most anything will work), now
zoom in on an area.  Next select an area, copy it and move it around with
the arrow keys.
Here's what I got just now:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/images/no_5.png
See all the 1 pixel high artifacts that were left behind as I moved the
image up to the left and right?  It seems this only works if your zoom
ratio becomes some exotic ratio like 167:83 as opposed to 1:4 or 4:1. 
Could this be related to Bug 124073
(http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124073)?

That's it.  Anyway, I don't mean to be nitpicky or anything.  I just
thought this is a good time to address some of these potential bugs since
we're coming upon 2.0.

Thanks for reading!
Eric Pierce
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Re: [Gimp-user] Coding for Gimp

2003-10-07 Thread Eric Pierce
Thanks both of you for the links.

Damn... I'm intimidated to say the least.  Looks like I've got some
reading ahead of me.

Ta ta,
Eric Pierce

> Eric Pierce wrote:
>> Forgive my naivety, but what would be a good way to plunge into some
>> Gimp
>> code and maybe even help out someday?
>
> We need lots of people, for everything from bug fixing to plug-in
> maintenance, and core development. Plug-ins are smaller, so
> getting into those is somewhat easier than attacking the core,
> although since it's been re-structured, the core is nicely
> objectified and readable too (except for a couple of places).
>
> Some information on getting started is here...
> http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/develop/
>
> and a page I wrote for the wiki, which I hope will eventually
> make its way onto the website, is here:
> http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GettingStartedWithGimp
>
> This also contains lots of information on how non-programmer
> types can wet their feet and help out with the website, bugzilla,
> testing, documentation and general helping out & support.
>
> For more developer type profiles, you could look here...
> http://developer.gimp.org
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
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[Gimp-user] Coding for Gimp

2003-09-27 Thread Eric Pierce
Forgive my naivety, but what would be a good way to plunge into some Gimp
code and maybe even help out someday?

I currently do web development (PHP, JavaScript, ColdFusion) and I've
mucked a little with C/C++ and I even did some Assembler programming on
the (don't laugh) Apple ][+ years back.

Any comments, suggestions and gentle shoves in the right direction would
be much obliged.

Thanks,
Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] Exotic zoom ratios in 1.3.*

2003-09-27 Thread Eric Pierce
I notice that when I use the zoom tool, I get really exotic zoom ratios
like 67:189 for example(see View>Zoom).  And that's fine, but if i then
try to use the zoom keyboard shortcut, it zooms in really small
increments.

Is this an intended effect?

Any way to get it to zoom in larger increments?

Thanks,
Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] Mneumonics fighting dynamic shortcuts on 1.3.20

2003-09-27 Thread Eric Pierce
I think I found a little problem with assigning shortcuts on 1.3.20.

Try this:
On an image window, click the "View" drop down menu.  Now place the cursor
over an item  -  I did "Shrink Wrap".

Now I type "f" to assign it as a shortcut key to "Shrink Wrap", but before
the shortcut saves, the "Display Filters" windows (which has "f" as a
mneumonic) comes up, and the keyboard shortcut is never assigned.

I can edit the 'menurc' file and set it there, but I'd venture a guess
that this won't work for any other similar situations (could be quite a
few).

Otherwise, 1.3.20 rocks my world.
Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] CinePaint and Film Gimp

2003-09-15 Thread Eric Pierce
>> Robin, there is really no point in being personally offended here.
>
> Sven, no need to apologize. I said I wasn't offended.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robin

So the merge is on?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing a Triangle

2003-09-08 Thread Eric Pierce
I've used Gfig before to make an equilateral triangle.

filters -> render -> gfig

Here's also a Gfig tutorial that won't help you make a triangle, but
should get you up to speed on Gfig.
http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/illfated1/

Eric P.
> Hi,
>
> Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Which tool do I use to 'connect the dots' for triangle? I tried all
>> the ones I could find to no avail...
>
> http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/
>
>> If there is any good docs on basics in 1.3x that'd be cool too.
>
> Documentation for 1.2 generally applies to GIMP-1.3 as well.
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] moving around a selection

2003-09-07 Thread Eric Pierce
> Hold down the Alt key, then move the selection frame.  Note that Alt is
> often
> bound to a different action - in Gnome, check your keybindings, in KDE -
> ditto
I use IceWM and this is also the case (alt-click moves the entire window
in IceWM).

Does anyone know a way to reassign this in IceWM?

I asked this a while ago on the IceWM list, but didn't receive a reply.

Thanks,
Eric Pierce

> (not sure of the details for KDE).
>
>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, "Vittorio" == Vittorio wrote:
>
>   Vittorio> How can I move a selection around a picture, that is (and more
>   Vittorio> precisely), move the frame of the selection only not its
> content
> -
> Timothy Jedlicka, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 1-630-713-4436, AOL-IM=bonzowork
> Network Entomologist, Lucent Technologies, Testers For Hire


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[Gimp-user] problems w/keyboard shortcuts on the layers dialog

2003-08-14 Thread Eric Pierce
I've assigned a few dynamic keyboard bindings to the layers context menu,
but none of them work.  And none of the pre-assigned shortcuts work
either.
Here's a pic:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/temp/layer_dialog.png

I'm running 1.3.18 and have tried it under Gnome and IceWM.

Can anyone else reproduce this?

Thanks...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Simple Radial Lines

2003-08-14 Thread Eric Pierce
> Eric Pierce wrote:
>
>>This should be easy, but I just can't think how to do it.
>>
>>All I want to create is a radial burst.  Sharp black and white lines
>>evenly spaced emanating from the center.
>>
>>Exactly like the old Japanese flag but without the circle in the middle.
>>See here:
>>http://www.japanorama.com/images/navy_army_ww2_flag.gif
>>
>>I've been wracking my brains for the last several hours, and digging
>>through the plug-ings, but I can't come up with anything.  It seems like
>>it'd be so easy...
>>
>>
> This seems too easy, but can't you just draw increasingly smaller
> circles from the outside in? Use Shift+Click to keep your circle
> perfectly round.
>
I'm not after circles.  I'm even lines radiating from the center.

Did you see the gif link above?  Just like that minus the circle in the
middle.

Eric

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Re: [Gimp-user] Simple Radial Lines

2003-08-14 Thread Eric Pierce
> On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 21:02, Jeff Trefftzs wrote:
>
>> 1.  Select the Black & White Gradient
>> 2.  In the Gradient Tool Dialog select:
>>  2.1  Custom Gradient
>>  2.2  Linear (or bi-linear)
>>  2.3  Sawtooth or Triangular repeats
>> 3.  Click and drag in the image window to get as many stripes as you
>> want rays.  Make sure the stripes run vertically.
>> 4.  Image/Filters/Distorts/Polar Coords
>>
>> Presto!  Raidal rays.
>
> You can also replace the gradient voodoo with render>pattern>grid. Polar
> Coord is a great trick for this though. Good tip.
>
yeah, that's hot.  A good way to get some control on the # of lines.

Thanks everyone who posted and especially to Joao for the cool dog script.

Eric Pierce


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[Gimp-user] Fnord contest, etc. WAS "Simple Radial Lines"

2003-08-09 Thread Eric Pierce
> Not at all, Eric!
>
> I like my script, mostly because I can always write others to perform
> like tasks.
Where did you learn how to write ps like that?  I'd love to learn a little
bit myself.  Are there any good websites or books that you recommend?
Have you ever messed around with xml/svg scripting?  I'd like to get into
that as well.  Too bad it's not widely supported in common browsers.

> But... I am just AMAZED by the grid + polar_coord trick.
Yeah, that one works great too.  A nice internal method for pulling off
the radial lines.

> I bet we could just create a "GIMP PUZZLE CONTEST" .
> The most incredible, and yet feasible, way to draw
> "fnord" in the GIMP wins.
Hey, good idea!  (just learned what 'fnord' is or isn't?) And then each
winner's technique could be added to a cool little Fnord repository of
short little tutorials (or even script-fu).  If I can muster up some time,
we could propose something along these lines to the world.  I could
even host it on my webspace or maybe gimp.org would let us host it there.

> (And any postscript would be left out of
> such a contest - it's not made with the GIMP after all)
>
> Does "photoshop"  have got an easier way to draw these
> "Simple Radial Lines" ?
I don't know.  I work with a guy who uses Photoshop, and when I described
wanting to make some radial lines for an ad, he thought there might be a
way in Photoshop, but I beat him to the punch w/your script.

> I remember using Deluxe Paint, in DOS - and there,
> there was a "symetric mode" one could enable - every stroke was
> mirrored N times around a common center, or in tiles, and this drawing
> could be made using that.
>
> Actually, Deluxe Paint, for simple it was, had some features that are
> not found around in any other program.
>
Hmm... could be a cool plug-in for Gimp.  I wish I knew C.

Good chatting,
Eric Pierce
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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move selection ONLY!?!

2003-08-07 Thread Eric Pierce
What window manager are you using?

I use IceWM, and that steals the alt-click combo, so I can't use it.

Fortunately, ctrl-alt-click works.  Try that.

Eric Pierce

>
> GIMP user manual says:
> "Note: To move a selection without making it float, you have to select
> the Move tool and press the Alt key as you drag the (empty) selection to
> another position. If you try to use the Move tool on a non-floating
> selection without pressing the Alt key, you will just move the entire
> layer or background."
>
> I just can't make it happen. I want to make a selection and then move it
> to the right plase WITHOUT moving it's contents or any part of image.
> Just the selection. Like in PhotoShop...
>
> I am using GIMP 1.2.3 & 1.3.17
> And besides I am a newbie! :)
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Simple Radial Lines

2003-08-06 Thread Eric Pierce
> On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 16:50, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> This should be easy, but I just can't think how to do it.
>>
>> All I want to create is a radial burst.  Sharp black and white lines
>> evenly spaced emanating from the center.
>>
>> Exactly like the old Japanese flag but without the circle in the middle.
>> See here:
>> http://www.japanorama.com/images/navy_army_ww2_flag.gif
>>
>> I've been wracking my brains for the last several hours, and digging
>> through the plug-ings, but I can't come up with anything.  It seems like
>
> Yet another technique that I've had good luck with is to create a
> repeating vertical gradient across the window and then convert it to
> polar coordinates. For example:
>
> 1.  Select the Black & White Gradient
> 2.  In the Gradient Tool Dialog select:
>   2.1  Custom Gradient
>   2.2  Linear (or bi-linear)
>   2.3  Sawtooth or Triangular repeats
> 3.  Click and drag in the image window to get as many stripes as you
> want rays.  Make sure the stripes run vertically.
> 4.  Image/Filters/Distorts/Polar Coords
>
> Presto!  Raidal rays.
>
> HTH,
> --

Cool... that works really good!

With Joao's ps script you can set the # of rays.

Here's what I worked up w/Joao's script:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/pics/radial.png

Your technique would've worked well for this too.
Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] Simple Radial Lines

2003-08-05 Thread Eric Pierce
This should be easy, but I just can't think how to do it.

All I want to create is a radial burst.  Sharp black and white lines
evenly spaced emanating from the center.

Exactly like the old Japanese flag but without the circle in the middle.
See here:
http://www.japanorama.com/images/navy_army_ww2_flag.gif

I've been wracking my brains for the last several hours, and digging
through the plug-ings, but I can't come up with anything.  It seems like
it'd be so easy...

Any help would be much obliged!
Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] Simple Radial Lines

2003-08-05 Thread Eric Pierce
That's it!  Very cool solution.

As soon as you mentioned ps I started wondering if Sodipodi (or some other
vector dealy) could pull this trick off, but your code is perfect. 
Manipulable and everything is rendered automatically.

Would make for a nice plug-in I imagine.

Thanks again!
Eric Pierce
> Could not think of an easy way using the GIMP.
>
> Actually, the only "more or less" easy way I could think off is using
> a graphic turtle I am making in GIMP-Python.
>
> Since that would be complicated I made an extra-gimp solution for you.
> An Postscript Snippet.
>
> Just paste the following postscript code in a plain text file, which
> name ends in .ps , edit the number of rays to the desired one,
> and them just open it as an image in the GIMP.
>
> Enjoy it!
>
> __
>
> %!PS
> %%BoundingBox: 0 0 1000 1000
>
> %(C) by Joao S. O. Bueno - 2003
> %Free to use, change and re-distribute as you like.
> %Created for posting at gimp-user mailing list, aug-05-2003
> %Creates a radial pattern
>
>
> /numrays 8 def
> /step 360 numrays div def
> 500 500 translate
>
> 360 step div cvi
>{
> newpath
> 0 1000 moveto
> 0 0 lineto
> step 2 div rotate
> 0 1000 lineto
> closepath
> fill
> step 2 div rotate
>} repeat
>
> showpage
>
>
> Eric Pierce wrote:
>> This should be easy, but I just can't think how to do it.
>>
>> All I want to create is a radial burst.  Sharp black and white lines
>> evenly spaced emanating from the center.
>>
>> Exactly like the old Japanese flag but without the circle in the middle.
>> See here:
>> http://www.japanorama.com/images/navy_army_ww2_flag.gif
>>
>> I've been wracking my brains for the last several hours, and digging
>> through the plug-ings, but I can't come up with anything.  It seems like
>> it'd be so easy...
>>
>> Any help would be much obliged!
>> Eric Pierce
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[Gimp-user] Re: ps-menurc update for 1.3.16

2003-07-05 Thread Eric Pierce
Small ps-menurc update for 1.3.16:
epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/ps-menurc

Added 'Show Grid'

Also added a bit of text to the webpage:
epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.php

Sven, I tried setting Zoom 1:1 to 'Ctrl-Alt-0', but it doesn't work.  Is
this a no-no since it's using 'Alt' and a potential mnemonic conflict?

Thanks,
Eric Pierce

> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I've finally had a moment to make up a new ps-menurc (I called it
>> 'ps6_menurc').  http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/ps-menurc It's
>> based on Photoshop 6.
>>
>> And here's a page detailing which shortcuts I did.
>> http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.php
>>
>> The page isn't quite done yet, but if anyone has any criticisms,
>> etc., I'd like to hear them.
>
> Looks great. I will include it as the default ps_menurc in GIMP-1.3.
> Thanks for your work and please inform me if you do any changes on
> this file that should go into CVS.
>
>
> Sven
>
>

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[Gimp-user] ps-menurc update

2003-06-21 Thread Eric Pierce
>> Sven:
>> Appending ps-menurc to menurc won't work (who on earth told you to try
>> this?). You need to replace ~/.gimp-1.2/menurc with ps-menurc. Please
>> note that the bindings are partly out-of-date. We'd appreciate a patch
>> that updates the keybindings but although I keep asking for this for
>> some years now, no Photoshop user has yet provided us an updated
>> version of this file.
>>
> I'd be happy to update it.  I use Gimp and Photoshop (mostly Gimp) at
> work, and have been regularily updating my keyboard shorts in the Gimp to
> resemble PS.  The only problem is we're at PS 5.0 (not the latest 7.0).
> Would that be good enough?

>Eric

Sven,
I've finally had a moment to make up a new ps-menurc (I called it
'ps6_menurc').
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/ps6_menurc
It's based on Photoshop 6.

And here's a page detailing which shortcuts I did.
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.html

The page isn't quite done yet, but if anyone has any criticisms, etc., I'd
like to hear them.

Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] Dragging tool bar crashes 1.3.15 in Japanese

2003-06-20 Thread Eric Pierce
> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I use a Japanese environment.  With 1.3.15, whenever I try to drag the
>> tool bar to dock under the main gimp window, gimp crashes.  Here's the
>> error.
>>
>> (gimp-1.3:2598): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow.c: line 526
>> (gdk_window_get_parent): assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
>
> Yes, I can reproduce this. Please go to bugzilla.gnome.org and open a
> bug-report for it. Please add detailed informations about the locale
> settings you use, especially the encoding.
>
>
> Sven
>
>
Bug 115647

Thanks Sven.
Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] Dragging tool bar crashes 1.3.15 in Japanese

2003-06-20 Thread Eric Pierce
Anyone else experience this?

I use a Japanese environment.  With 1.3.15, whenever I try to drag the
tool bar to dock under the main gimp window, gimp crashes.  Here's the
error.

(gimp-1.3:2598): Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow.c: line 526
(gdk_window_get_parent): assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed

This doesn't happen when I run 1.3.15 in English.  It works fine. 
Anything to do w/2-byte vs. 1-byte fonts?

Thanks and looking good elsewise,
Eric Pierce
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Re: [Gimp-user] problem w/assigning keys in 1.3.13

2003-06-10 Thread Eric Pierce
> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> You better not use Alt for shortcuts since the Alt key is used for
>>> mnemonics.
>>>
>> Mnemonics?
>> What'chu talkin' about, Willis?
>
> Mnemonics is how GTK+ calls keyboard accelerators for widgets which
> are indicated by an underlined character. We are making heavy use of
> them in latest versions of The GIMP.
>
>
> Sven
I see.  That thought actually passed through my little brain, but I wasn't
sure.  Thanks for explaining that.

I hope you didn't take offense about the 'Willis' bit.  That's from a dumb
US TV show from the 70s (Family Ties).

Haven't compiled 1.3.15 yet, but everything is looking unbelievably
awesome so far.  Hope you pump out another O'Reilly book when you reach
1.4!

Much gratitude,
Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] problem w/assigning keys in 1.3.13

2003-06-10 Thread Eric Pierce
> Hi,
>
> "Eric Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I can't assign the following Alt-key shortcuts to menu items in 1.3.13.
>>
>> Alt-s
>> Alt-i
>> Alt-d
>> Alt-v
>> Alt-e
>> Alt-r
>> Alt-f
>> Alt-t
>> Alt-l
>
> You better not use Alt for shortcuts since the Alt key is used for
> mnemonics.
>
>
> Sven
>
Mnemonics?
What'chu talkin' about, Willis?

Eric

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[Gimp-user] problem w/assigning keys in 1.3.13

2003-06-07 Thread Eric Pierce
I can't assign the following Alt-key shortcuts to menu items in 1.3.13.

Alt-s
Alt-i
Alt-d
Alt-v
Alt-e
Alt-r
Alt-f
Alt-t
Alt-l

The other letters work fine.  Did I screw up something w/gtk?  Or is it Gimp?

Hmm and they worked up through 1.3.12.

Thanks for reading.
Eric Pierce

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[Gimp-user] ImageMap can't read file it created

2003-04-23 Thread Eric Pierce
Hi all,

I'm having a problem with ImageMap.

I can create a nice image map, save it and away I go.  It renders lovely
HTML, etc.
However, I'm having problems reloading the generated HTML file.
I get the error "Couldn't read file: "

I've tried making REALLY simple imagemaps to test my sanity, but they
won't reload either.

(I am using Gimp for Windows if that matters.)
Any ideas?  Maybe I'm just saving it wrong or something...

Thanks for reading...
Eric Pierce



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Re: [Gimp-user] Stripping an image from solid background

2002-12-26 Thread Eric Pierce
Thanks Malcom and Tom,

The color to alpha did a beautiful job - exactly what
I was looking for.  My brain told me all these years
that there must be a simple way to accomplish this...
thanks for making me whole again.

Eric P.


--- Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 11:31:45PM -0800, Eric
> Pierce wrote:
> > I've wondered for years if there's any way to
> > perfectly strip an image from a solid colored
> > background while maintaining any alpha channel
> info.
> > 
> > Take this image for instance.
> > http://epierce.freeshell.org/temp/index.html
> > 
> > The background is 100% white.  But there's some
> > definate blending going on with the image border
> and
> > with the image shadow.
> 
> Have a look at this tutorial which describes what
> you want to do:
> 
>   
>
http://www.gimp.org/~sjburges/color_to_alpha/demo/color2alpha.html
> 
> Cheers,
> Malcolm


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[Gimp-user] Re: Advice with gimp 1.3

2002-12-24 Thread Eric Pierce
Carol,

I'm running 1.3.10.  Can I ask you how you
accomplished this[1] in 1.3.x?
http://sven.gimp.org/toolbox-mockup.png

Thanks!
Eric P.

1. The docking and putting the color selector in the
main window



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[Gimp-user] Stripping an image from solid background

2002-12-24 Thread Eric Pierce
I've wondered for years if there's any way to
perfectly strip an image from a solid colored
background while maintaining any alpha channel info.

Take this image for instance.
http://epierce.freeshell.org/temp/index.html

The background is 100% white.  But there's some
definate blending going on with the image border and
with the image shadow.

I played a bit with a layer of white using the
different layer modes thinking one of them might
cancel out the white effectively stripping out only
the white, but to no avail.

Anyway, this isn't pressing... just picking at my
brain for some time.

Thanks for any ideas!
Eric P.



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