>I claimed that some of them were, and some of the weren't. You would
>know that if you read before commenting.
>You are building offense on top of another offense and claim to have
>started a constructive discussion. That's some logic I cannot
>understand.
>We've discussed the "merit" a lot of tim
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:44 AM, WhoCares wrote:
> You've claimed that my responses weren't constructive, did they make people
> think?
I claimed that some of them were, and some of the weren't. You would
know that if you read before commenting.
> Did they challenge the status-quo of "beat peop
>What you shouldn't do is overreacting. But that's entirely up to you.
>
>Which is what we've been doing since dawn of times. Claiming the
>opposite just because someone blamed you for using questionable
>arguments isn't what I would call a mature reaction.
You've claimed that my responses weren't
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM, WhoCares wrote:
> I came here to contribute to a piece of software which I actually use. In the
> hope that my tiny contribution might be something that is accepted by the
> 'community'. What did I encounter?
>
> Character assassination.
>
> But I've come to realiz
>I can see how this is going to be a sensible, useful contribution,
>deeply appreciated by all of the community.
>
>Alexandre Prokoudine
>http://libregraphicsworld.org
You know, it really is OK to be wrong.. in fact, it's the greatest gift anyone
can hope for.
I came here to contribute to a piece
>
> Those are some standup English skills. And you're right .. I'm a total
> beginner
> who doesn't know what he's talking about and enjoys spending his time trying
> to
> construct phony arguments on mailing lists just to beat up the egos of
> developers and provoke a reaction.
>
> And you al
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:48 AM, WhoCares wrote:
> And you all got suckered into reading my posts!! This is so much fun, I think
> I'll troll this mailing list ALL THE TIME!!!
I can see how this is going to be a sensible, useful contribution,
deeply appreciated by all of the community.
Alexandr
>This thread was turned into a useless exchange of "no it isn't - yes
>it is!" nonsense by one post: An anonymous post from "WhoCares," a
>sock puppet post made through a web interface to evade detection.
>Let's disassemble that post.
>
>"The GIMP is considered anacronistic and difficult to use."
Op 11-02-13 21:21, Steve Kinney schreef:
On 02/10/2013 05:56 PM, WhoCares wrote:
FYI:
This thread was turned into a useless exchange of "no it isn't - yes
it is!" nonsense by one post: An anonymous post from "WhoCares," a
sock puppet post made through a web interface to evade detection.
Let's
On 02/10/2013 05:56 PM, WhoCares wrote:
> FYI:
This thread was turned into a useless exchange of "no it isn't - yes
it is!" nonsense by one post: An anonymous post from "WhoCares," a
sock puppet post made through a web interface to evade detection.
Let's disassemble that post.
"The GIMP is con
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
wrote:
> http://xkcd.com/1172/
>
> How about that? :)
"There are probably children out there holding down spacebar to stay
warm in the winter! YOUR UPDATE MURDERS CHILDREN."
:D
Chris
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On 02/11/2013 08:01 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Example with gimp
file => open => nut.png
adjust contrast => ok
I want to save it
I can't...
XCF ?
But I don't want xcf now.
Ok , I export
#
many many many files
=> export
ok
#
many files lat
On 02/11/2013 07:58 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
On 13-02-11 12:52 PM, maderios wrote:
U => it "saves as", depending on the extension you want to choose, or
the new name you choose.
Why U? That wouldn't be an easy one to remember as having anything to do
with a save operation.
It's ok for french
>Example with gimp
>file => open => nut.png
>adjust contrast => ok
>I want to save it
>I can't...
>XCF ?
>But I don't want xcf now.
>Ok , I export
>#
>many many many files
>=> export
>ok
>#
>many files later
>=> export
>Arghhh...
On 13-02-11 12:52 PM, maderios wrote:
U => it "saves as", depending on the extension you want to choose, or
the new name you choose.
Why U? That wouldn't be an easy one to remember as having anything to do
with a save operation.
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On 02/11/2013 05:54 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
maderios wrote:
On 02/11/2013 05:03 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
- Libreoffice : the same
This is a selective functionality comparison on your part based upon a specific
file format(s) or lack of knowledge of the actual product
On 02/11/2013 05:03 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
- Libreoffice : the same
Of course, I am not aware of your version of the product, so perhaps you
have the older version installed rather than the latest version after
this change in functionality was made.
I tested 3.6 version too, it's n
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Jim Clark wrote:
>>> Could we please move to discussing something interesting that actually
>>> exists?
>
> Hear hear! Or, heck, I'd be happy with an interesting thing that doesn't
> exist. But an uninteresting thing that does not exist, well...
http://xkcd.com
maderios wrote:
> On 02/11/2013 05:03 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
> >
> >> - Libreoffice : the same
> >
> > This is a selective functionality comparison on your part based upon a
> > specific file format(s) or lack of knowledge of the actual product you are
> > comparing.
> >For examp
On 02/11/2013 05:03 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
- Libreoffice : the same
This is a selective functionality comparison on your part based upon a specific
file format(s) or lack of knowledge of the actual product you are comparing.
For example, Libreoffice has PDF as an EXPORT option, NOT
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:03 PM, jfrazierjr wrote:
> This software(or it's ancestor OpenOffice), ONCE had PDF as a
> "save/save as" option, but the developers realized that this was
> truly not a valid workflow and moved the pdf to "Export" instead,
> mirroring the model GIMP has implemented. Of
> - Libreoffice : the same
This is a selective functionality comparison on your part based upon a specific
file format(s) or lack of knowledge of the actual product you are comparing.
For example, Libreoffice has PDF as an EXPORT option, NOT an option under the
"save/Save as" menu item. Th
>> Could we please move to discussing something
interesting that actually exists?
Hear hear! Or, heck, I'd be happy with
an interesting thing that doesn't exist. But an uninteresting thing that
does not exist, well...
Thanks-
Jim Clark
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM, maderios wrote:
>>> file => open recent =>
>>> open document.sla
>>> save document .sla
>>> save as document-2.sla
>>> export document.sla =>
>>> save as image, pdf, etc
>>> With scribus you can only work with .sla
>>
>> And that proves your point exactly how
On 02/11/2013 02:52 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, maderios wrote:
- Scribus-1.4 : the same
Wrong. Scribus is built around its own file format and isn't suited
for editing PDF which is its primary target file format. You don't
open and save a PDF back in Scri
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, maderios wrote:
>>> - Scribus-1.4 : the same
>>
>> Wrong. Scribus is built around its own file format and isn't suited
>> for editing PDF which is its primary target file format. You don't
>> open and save a PDF back in Scribus.
>
> file => open recent =>
> open
On 02/11/2013 12:50 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, maderios wrote:
On 02/10/2013 06:14 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:06 PM, maderios wrote:
Why complicate things ? This is a false problem. Any editor
(gimp,libreoffice, krita, etc.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, maderios wrote:
> On 02/10/2013 06:14 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:06 PM, maderios wrote:
>>
>>> Why complicate things ? This is a false problem. Any editor
>>> (gimp,libreoffice, krita, etc..) user must (learn to) save his work an
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >>Gimp should follow the standards available in all editors.
>
> >Every time someone starts discussing it, you come up with this
> >incorrect information.
>
> You're wrong. Please, try the softwares
> Everybody can test now these editors
Your arbitrary e
On 02/10/2013 06:14 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:06 PM, maderios wrote:
Why complicate things ? This is a false problem. Any editor
(gimp,libreoffice, krita, etc..) user must (learn to) save his work and
should not rely on automation that slows work.
Gimp should fol
> Thing is -- there is no "the" standard
If you're saying that Ctrl + S doesn't 'generally' mean 'save my current file to
it's current location in it's current format with the current settings' then
you're splitting hairs.
FYI: The GIMP is considered anacronistic and difficult to use. I work with
From: daniel.horn...@gmx.de
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:18:31 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP
On Sunday, 10. February 2013 18:06:25 maderios wrote:
> Much noise about common functions...
> Why complicate things ? This is a false p
On Sunday, 10. February 2013 18:06:25 maderios wrote:
> Much noise about common functions...
> Why complicate things ? This is a false problem. Any editor
> (gimp,libreoffice, krita, etc..) user must (learn to) save his work and
> should not rely on automation that slows work.
> Gimp should fol
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:06 PM, maderios wrote:
> Why complicate things ? This is a false problem. Any editor
> (gimp,libreoffice, krita, etc..) user must (learn to) save his work and
> should not rely on automation that slows work.
> Gimp should follow the standards available in all editors.
Ev
On 02/10/2013 03:52 AM, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:40:54 +0100
> From: mader...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP
>
> On 02/07/2013 02:16 AM, WhoCares wrote:
> > Hi Whomever i
On 10.02.2013 03:52, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> Ideally you should have been using "Save a Copy" for this scenario but
> apparently nobody ever wanted to do that (and the command is basically
> redundant in 2.8 anyway).
No. See:
- work on a image, save: a.xcf
-> you are working on a.xcf
- con
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:40:54 +0100
> From: mader...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP
>
> On 02/07/2013 02:16 AM, WhoCares wrote:
> > Hi Whomever is listening,
> >
> > I don't use The GIM
On 02/07/2013 02:16 AM, WhoCares wrote:
Hi Whomever is listening,
I don't use The GIMP very much, but today I pulled out 2.8.2 (Ubuntu + MATE) so
I could put some screenies together. 2 things hit me immediately:
- Firstly, I can't really use the toolbox anymore. This could be more specific
to m
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 08:25 +0100, Gunold Brunbauer wrote:
> Is there any way to save the undo-history ?
Not currently, no. It may happen after the move to GEGL,which is
currently in progress but a lot of work.
--
Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/
Pictures from
Am 07.02.2013 18:44, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:
> From: l...@holoweb.net
> To: w...@ieee.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 07:43:46 +0100
> CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP
>
> All GIMP's formats (even xcf) are lossy - at the
On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 09:44 -0800, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
> There are not many applications where the undo history is considered a
> tangible part of the current document/project being worked on.
No, although I've encountered it. Most programs are indeed lossy in this
regard.
> (On the same no
> From: l...@holoweb.net
> To: w...@ieee.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 07:43:46 +0100
> CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP
>
> All GIMP's formats (even xcf) are lossy - at the very least you lost
> undo history, which i
On 02/07/2013 01:03 AM, bgw wrote:
> On 02/06/2013 08:08 PM, Myke C. Subs wrote:
>> Is there a way to make it automatically save in ".xcf.gz" format instead
>> of uncompressed ".xcf"?
> Does this save very much? I have a 45 megabyte xcf file; it reduces to
> 37 megabytes using gzip. The time taken
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 22:03 -0800, bgw wrote:
> On 02/06/2013 08:08 PM, Myke C. Subs wrote:
> > Is there a way to make it automatically save in ".xcf.gz" format instead
> [...]
> The time taken vs the total compression
> makes the exercise questionable in my mind.
Sure, it should be a choice; it
On 02/06/2013 08:08 PM, Myke C. Subs wrote:
Is there a way to make it automatically save in ".xcf.gz" format instead
of uncompressed ".xcf"?
Does this save very much? I have a 45 megabyte xcf file; it reduces to
37 megabytes using gzip. The time taken vs the total compression
makes the exercise
On 02/06/2013 10:54 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> Doing likewise with, for instance, GIMP .xcf files and generic .png
> or .jpg files may take some getting used to. But there is a certain
> logic to it.
This "new feature" has caught me by surprise but I understand it and am
adjusting my habits to acc
On 02/06/2013 08:16 PM, WhoCares wrote:
> Hi Whomever is listening,
>
> I don't use The GIMP very much, but today I pulled out 2.8.2 (Ubuntu + MATE)
> so
> I could put some screenies together. 2 things hit me immediately:
>
> - Firstly, I can't really use the toolbox anymore. This could be more
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 02:16:34 +0100
> From: for...@gimpusers.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> CC: t...@gimpusers.com
> Subject: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP
>
> - Secondly (and more importantly) it would seem that The GIMP is now enforcing
> that I use Ct
Hi Whomever is listening,
I don't use The GIMP very much, but today I pulled out 2.8.2 (Ubuntu + MATE) so
I could put some screenies together. 2 things hit me immediately:
- Firstly, I can't really use the toolbox anymore. This could be more specific
to my system, but the top of the toolbox slide
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