Re: Another off-shoring question

2006-06-20 Thread R.S.
Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: [...] I know many large companies such as IBM have computers in the countries they do business in. I'm not counting that as offshoring, as I'm sure they use the computers in other countries to support their business in those countries. I'm talking about offshoring to

Re: Another off-shoring question

2006-06-20 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Everybody talks about moving to low cost countries. Here in Central Europe we have different situations. Banks, industries etc are bought by international companies and their datacenters are then consolidated to mother countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland, France, which are *much* more

Re: TSM replacement alternatives

2006-06-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Bruno Sugliani writes: To day i have learned that the new billing policy for TSM had changed in 2 ways Bruno, I can't find any reference to any new TSM billing policy, meaning any changes at least within the last 18 months or so (since the release of TSM 5.3). Do you have a pointer to these

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -cell00.bisx.prod.on.blackberry... I am surprised! I asked a question regarding the performance of the two types of drives within a single frame, running with z/OS. I stated that we had been told that 146 was not good about six months

Re: Freeware ZIP program for z/OS

2006-06-20 Thread Brüchmann.Frank FBR
Anthony Giorgio posted this on MVS-OE a couple of days ago. Regards Frank. Emne: [MVS-OE] Now available on Tools and Toys: zip and unzip I have uploaded builds of the most recent versions of the Info-Zip utilities zip (v2.31) and unzip (v5.52) to the Tools and Toys page. These builds were

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I have never heard from my IBM or EMC guys about issues with the 146GB drives. It was always the 300GB drives that had too much latency for High-Volume Online Transaction. Other than that the 73 and 146 can coexist fine in your array. Y'NO! This argument has been going on since 3380-D/E/K

OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Good day. We're trying to hook into OSA-ICC with Attachmate, and it's not an elegant solution. It makes me wonder about products like PCOMM and AF/Remote for that process instead of Attachmate. Have any of you opted for either of the latter two over Attachmate? If so, what was your

z series channel commands

2006-06-20 Thread Lieven Borgs
Hi, Any idea where i can find the I/O command codes esp. the magnetic tape channel commands? Cheers, Lieven -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message:

Re: z series channel commands

2006-06-20 Thread Charles Mills
There's a high-level overview in Principles of Operation. I'm looking at the ESA/390 manual as I write this and it's chapter 15.6.4. For specifics, you're going to need the hardware manual for the specific tape drive. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z series channel commands

2006-06-20 Thread Lieven Borgs
Thx, I still have an old Enterprise Systems Architecture/390 Reference Summary that has all the codes in it. But when I went on the web and check the Z/series architecture reference summary it seems that these chapters (Magnetic tape channel commands and DASD channel commands) have

Re: z series channel commands

2006-06-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/20/2006 8:11:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any idea where i can find the I/O command codes esp. the magnetic tape channel commands? From the subject of your post, z series channel commands,, the literal answer is in the z series Principles

z/OS logrec problem

2006-06-20 Thread John C. Wolf
We are installing z/OS R1.7 and are having a problem with the LOGREC allocation. We have a sysplex that is running z/OS R1.6 in production. In IEASYSxx we tell the system that the logrec dataset should be SYS1.LOGREC. I know what the system has in IEASYSxx by using Mark's MVS Utilities -

Re: z/OS logrec problem

2006-06-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We use a nodal qualifier for these dataset - SYS1.TS01.LOGREC - with no ill effect. Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford Company PH: 770 621 3256 If we wait for the moment when everything is ready, we shall never begin. ? Ivan Turgenev

Re: z/OS logrec problem

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:45:57 -0500, John C. Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are installing z/OS R1.7 and are having a problem with the LOGREC allocation. We have a sysplex that is running z/OS R1.6 in production. In IEASYSxx we tell the system that the logrec dataset should be SYS1.LOGREC. I

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread R.S.
Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote: Good day. We're trying to hook into OSA-ICC with Attachmate, and it's not an elegant solution. It makes me wonder about products like PCOMM and AF/Remote for that process instead of Attachmate. Have any of you opted for either of the latter two over Attachmate? If

Re: z/OS logrec problem

2006-06-20 Thread Skip Robinson
We run both 1.7 and 1.4 but do not see that exact message in either release. (We do get a similar message out of Netview for the *old* Health Checker.) Do you get this message? IFB086I LOGREC DATA SET IS your-logrec-dataset-name If so, your data set is being used. Could there be a command

Re: z/OS logrec problem

2006-06-20 Thread Jack Kelly
as it comes from the factory, there's a set logr in commnd00 that you have to pull Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: z/OS logrec problem

2006-06-20 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, Look in COMMNDxx for a SETLOGRC command that sends logrec output to a logstream. If it's not there add one the will send the logrec to a dataset. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John C. Wolf Sent: Tuesday, June 20,

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
2: the 144GB disk rotate at the same speed as the 72GB, so basically they can deliver the same amount of MB/sec. I thought that todays disks have more capacity on the outer tracks than on the inner ones. Transfer rates vary with the track position being read or written to. Peter Hunkeler

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:39:25 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good day. We're trying to hook into OSA-ICC with Attachmate, and it's not an elegant solution. It makes me wonder about products like PCOMM and AF/Remote for that process instead of Attachmate. Have any of you

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Gates, Guy
2: the 144GB disk rotate at the same speed as the 72GB, so basically they can deliver the same amount of MB/sec. My DS8100 has 146GB Drives at 10k RPM and 73GB Drives at 15k RPM. Doesn't this indicate that my 73GB Drives are Faster and can deliver more MB/Sec? Or is there something in the

Re: z/OS logrec problem

2006-06-20 Thread John C. Wolf
Boy did you nail that one. It looks as though Server Pack put a SETLOGRC LOGSTREAM in Commandxx and we missed it. Any how it is now fixed. Thanks to all who answered we sure look dumb. Again thanks. John Wolf University of Cincinnati sysprog voice 513-556-0009 On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:56:07

Re: Another off-shoring question

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Mason
Radoslaw, Many years ago I attended the wedding of a Gillette executive whom, in his speech at the reception, the best man described as a keen young man. In the same spirit I can say that the Gillette executives seem to be as sharp as ever honing their management options. Chris Mason -

Re: z series channel commands

2006-06-20 Thread Bruce Black
A list of tape CCW op codes, from 3420 through 3480 tapes, is in the ESA/390 Architecture Reference Summary at http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dz9ar900.pdf 3490s added a few more query and control commands. Details can be found in the 3490 reference at

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/20/2006 9:12:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought that todays disks have more capacity on the outer tracks than on the inner ones. Transfer rates vary with the track position being read or written to. Transfer rates from the disk into

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
New development...I think it's down to console definitions in z/OS. We're getting a message about a SYNCH being written and no fully capable console is online. We get there by turning off the usual master console to force the IPL to the OSA-ICC attached console. I'm not sure what version of

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Wickman
No problems with Attachmate for us after we got on the current release. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/20/06 9:02 AM Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote: Good day. We're trying to hook into OSA-ICC with Attachmate, and it's not an elegant solution. It makes me wonder about products like PCOMM and AF/Remote

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Sam Bass
Vista TN3270 under Windows works fine on the OSA-ICC consoles. Also X3270 under SuSE works just fine too. I was able to configure the keyboard to map to the old 3270 keyboard mapping. Sam Bass McLane Company Temple, TX 76503 254-771-7212 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Richards.Bob
Ginnie, HSM Incremental backups for DR purposes? I certainly hope you do not plan on doing HRECOVER APPLYINCREMENTAL commands during a DR. Takes waaa too long. Do you really have a requirement for incremental backups at DR? Most shops still using tapes use full volume DUMPs for data currency

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 10:33 -0400, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: Transfer rates from the disk into the read/write transducer do indeed vary depending on where the track is Not MF-related, but the old Apple Twiggy drive (which appeared briefly on the unlamented Lisa) varied its motor

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Mason
Daniel, I hope you are using the OSA-ICC redbook to help you get yours working. It can be found at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246364.html I had a look at what it said about the TN3270E client. It goes as follows: quote 2.2.4 TN3270E emulator planning ... TN3270E emulator program

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/20/2006 10:01:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the old Apple Twiggy drive (which appeared briefly on the unlamented Lisa) varied its motor speed in order to pack more data on those outer tracks while keeping the data transfer rate constant.

Dataset copy error with FDR.

2006-06-20 Thread Jasen Kloeppel
Can someone point me in the right direction? My issue is that I have a user running an FDRCOPY job as follows. //STEP1EXEC PGM=FDRCOPY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * COPY TYPE=DSF, DSNENQ=NONE SELECT CATDSN=AUL1.SAS.FORMATS,

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Snippage: I hope you are using the OSA-ICC redbook to help you get yours working. It can be found at We're using that. I seem to be down to some console definitions in ZOS, so I'm reading the mighty fine manual some more. My error is that it can't SYNCH up My boss and I have read that

Re: Dataset copy error with FDR.

2006-06-20 Thread Alan C. Field
What catalog is AUL1 going to? What about AUL1$? Is the alias defined to a user catalog? Does the user have the ability to update the catalog? Alan The job is failing with the following RACF errors: ICH408I USER(TSOSDB ) GROUP(TSOUSR ) NAME() 176 AUL1$.SAS.FORMATS CL(DATASET )

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Ginnie, If the backups are only for DR, why not use full volume backups? I believe you indicated that the data was already in a separate Storage Group. Bob, Hrecover volume commands take waaayyy too long. I have used Hrecover applyincremental fromdate(dd/mm/) and found it quite efficient.

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread R.S.
(IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 6/20/2006 10:01:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the old Apple Twiggy drive (which appeared briefly on the unlamented Lisa) varied its motor speed in order to pack more data on those outer tracks while

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Richards.Bob
Dave, I'll be honest. I have not performed an applyincremental in over 10 years. It WAS painful then and it was HRECOVER volume *with* applyincremental. Maybe the current HSM, tape technology and ESCON/FICON channels have made part of the process less painful. If so, great! Running AUTODUMP is

Re: Dataset copy error with FDR.

2006-06-20 Thread Jasen Kloeppel
2 different user catalogs. AUL1 is in one catalog and AUL1$ is in another. The user can update both catalogs. The user actually copied multiple AUL1 datasets to AUL1$ in the same job, but it was the AUL1.SAS.FORMATS, AUL1.SAS.MACROS, and AUL1.VSAMPSP1 datasets that fail only. The same

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Marian Gasparovic
You bet your 15k 73 GB disks will be much faster. I was involved in two situations with UNIX and DS8000 where customer insisted on having more capacity, they 'don't need' performance. When they hit the limits, they went to 73 GB 15k and saw the difference and only then they were happy. On

Re: Dataset copy error with FDR.

2006-06-20 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Are you absolutely sure that there aren't any other RACF profiles (other than AUL1$.*) lurking in the RACF database? Regards, Ulrich Krueger IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/20/2006 08:47:56 AM: The same RACF profile is protecting all AUL1$ datasets, so I don't

Re: Dataset copy error with FDR.

2006-06-20 Thread Richards.Bob
Any chance these are aliased? Discrete profiles exist? Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jasen Kloeppel Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset copy error with FDR. 2

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/20/2006 10:29:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: centrifugal force can destroy the CD. Works for mainframe disks too. Original technology was spray glue onto aluminum, then spray fine particles of magnetizable substance (e.g., iron oxide, aka

infoprint port monitor, Windows active directory

2006-06-20 Thread Steve Gear
Hello, OS level: z/os 1.7 We are using infoprint server/IP printway to print to distributed printers. The desktops are using Port Monitor to send print to the mainframe. Our issue is updating the printer driver defined in port monitor when the printer model changes. Not a big deal for a

IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Jones
IBM and Gerogia Tech researches have developed a new chip that runs at 500 Ghz when cooled to -451 degrees (F) and at 350 Ghz at room temperature. Be interesting to see if IBM uses such chips in the next generation mainframe boxes

Re: Dataset copy error with FDR.

2006-06-20 Thread Sabo, Frank
RACF Question. If your RACF Dataset Profile is AUL1$.* then it will only protect datasets name with only one additional qualifier such as AUL1$.ACSASXP1, it does not allow multiple dataset qualifiers such as AUL1$.SAS.FORMATS. You will need to change the profile in RACF to AUL1$.** to allow

Re: Dataset copy error with FDR.

2006-06-20 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
If Enhanced Generic Naming is in effect (SETROPTS LIST will tell you), your profile is only for two qualifier names. You need a AUL1$.** profile. It is Table 81 in my RACF Command Reference. -Original Message- From: Jasen Kloeppel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006

IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Phil Payne
Be interesting to see if IBM uses such chips in the next generation mainframe boxes It would be a miracle. This technology might be ten years off in commercial processors. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Bob, I last ran applyincremental 4-5 years ago at DR so it's possible that changes in the intervening years caused us to have differing experiences. With newer tape, disk and Ficon I would expect today's performance to be much better, except we can't assume the latest and greatest in Ginnie's

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Ulrich Krueger
That reminds me ... in the late 70s or early 80s there was a time when numerous stories about supercooled or superconducting devices were making the rounds in all the computer publications. The german Computerwoche once even had a cartoon on that subject. It showed a datacenter manager proudly

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Jon Brock
Good. Heaven only knows how much we would have to pay IBM/CA/LRS/Compuware, etc. in software charges. On the plus side, I might finally see Half-Life 3: Mainframe, although I'll need to get a mainframe mouse. Jon snip Be interesting to see if IBM uses such chips in the next generation

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/20/2006 11:59:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That reminds me ... in the late 70s or early 80s there was a time when numerous stories about supercooled or superconducting devices were making the rounds in all the computer publications. What

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Salt
From: Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the plus side, I might finally see Half-Life 3: Mainframe, although I'll need to get a mainframe mouse. You don't have a mainframe mouse already? I couldn't live without one! Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a mainframe!

Re: z/OS HTTP Web Server

2006-06-20 Thread Jon Brock
Kirk, Thanks for the tip. I wasn't aware of the article, but I have it pulled up now. I might take a shot at doing the Wiki thing after I get our system up to z/OS 1.7. If nothing else, I hope it can keep the possibilities in the public eye around here. I am blessed with good

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Jones
I seem to recall that a Gene Amdahl startup (Commercial Data Servers?) did some work with cooling an off the shelf IBM P/390 chip when they first came out to something like -20 degrees (C) to get it to have a higher clock rate. I saw the experimental setup in their lab one time. But I think

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Richard Pinion
What ever happened to IBM's bubble memory? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2006 1:55 PM I seem to recall that a Gene Amdahl startup (Commercial Data Servers?) did some work with cooling an off the shelf IBM P/390 chip when they first came out to something like -20 degrees (C) to get it to have a higher

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
They quoted an IBM VP in the article at 12-24 months for something like this to show up in commercial products. I don't think I would look for it quite that fast. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent:

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
The bubble burst? Sorry. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Pinion Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip What ever happened to IBM's bubble

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/20/2006 12:57:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What ever happened to IBM's bubble memory? New laboratory curiosities do not make it into commercial products until they can at least outperform the technology that everyone fantasizes about

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Mason
Bill, There was some sort of publicity for superconductivity in 1987 - in order to provide a more precise date. I can't recall whether or not IBM was responsible. I know only because my group was looking for catchy ways to publicise an event involving networking. I had the great idea - well, it

Confusion on output of LISTC CAT

2006-06-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hi all, I seem to have forgotten what it means when the output from an IDCAMS LISTC CAT('catname') has some of the information as (INVALID). And for some reason it is eluding me when I review the SMS manauls If you look at my output it has (INVALID) for entries like CI-SPLIT, CA-SPLIT and

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Y. Odo
Sam Bass wrote: Vista TN3270 under Windows works fine on the OSA-ICC consoles. Also X3270 under SuSE works just fine too. I was able to configure the keyboard to map to the old 3270 keyboard mapping. we use x3270 on OpenSuSE 10.0 and on Fedora Core 4(?). x3270 comes installed with Fedora ...

Re: Confusion on output of LISTC CAT

2006-06-20 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
See Appendix Interpreting LISTCAT Output Listings in DFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs: The statistics in the catalog are updated when the data set is closed. Therefore, if an error occurs during CLOSE, the statistics might not be valid. If the data set has not been properly closed,

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Ginnie Nuckles
Hi Bob .. thanks for all your help .. actually .. we would use the full volume dumps from sunday night to recover all volumes then recover * tovolume(volser) unit(3390) to apply the incrementals. We figured out that the Auto Backup parameter in the Storage group left in inactive and the Backup

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Richards.Bob
Ah, the beauty of actually being able to test something! grin Glad you found a solution. I had missed the new SG part until Dave pointed it out. I have been spoiled by being in XRC environments for the last 6 years. The best restore is no restore. Ditto for the incrementals. Bob Richards

Re: Confusion on output of LISTC CAT

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Thomen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I seem to have forgotten what it means when the output from an IDCAMS LISTC CAT('catname') has some of the information as (INVALID). And for some reason it is eluding me when I review the SMS manauls If you look at my

Re: Confusion on output of LISTC CAT

2006-06-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Mark, Is the presence of the Imbed parameter an issue? Lizzette didn't mention what level of Z/os she is running on. -Original Message- From: Mark Thomen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Confusion on output of LISTC

Re: Confusion on output of LISTC CAT

2006-06-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks Mark. that is the answer I needed. We are running z/OS V1.4 and this fits very nicely. We will be upgrading to z/OS V1.7 by end of year. So I will probably just live with this anomaly for now. Lizette Yes - install APAR OA11927. Thanks, Mark Thomen Catalog/IDCAMS/VSAM

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 14:16 -0400, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: I attended a technical session at a regional CMG in early 1994 done by an IBM San Jose disk engineer named Bill Donovan, who had been in on the development of every IBM disk product since day zero I remember his name

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Richard Pinion
Yeah, and some people had disappearing data too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2006 3:20 PM On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 14:16 -0400, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: I attended a technical session at a regional CMG in early 1994 done by an IBM San Jose disk engineer named Bill Donovan, who had

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/20/2006 2:21:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember his name was Bill Donnelly? Could well be. I thought it was Donovan. Memory check. A sharp dude who knew his stuff. But he also categorically stated that what the StorageTek guys

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Jon Brock
Maybe they did. I wouldn't know. I do know, though, that we haven't lost so much as a bit of data due to Iceberg/RVA/SVA/V2X DASD for the years that we have had it. Works fine for us. It must have seemed OK to IBM, too, since they were selling it at one point. Jon snip Yeah, and some

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Richard Pinion
I heard, could have been an urban myth, the reason IBM came into the picture was to fix the microcode problems that was causing the lost data. I'm talking pre-1998. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2006 3:32 PM Maybe they did. I wouldn't know. I do know, though, that we haven't lost so much as a

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:34 -0400, Richard Pinion wrote: I heard, could have been an urban myth, the reason IBM came into the picture was to fix the microcode problems that was causing the lost data. I'm talking pre-1998. Iceberg took a lot of heat early on for excessive downtime. Much of

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Richard Pinion
The failure I was told of happened in Florida. I've been googling but haven't found anything to support my story. It looks like Iceberg was around in the early to mid 90's. Also, saw where Uncle Sam tried to sue IBM and STK after they signed the RVA marketing deal. I know, I know way off

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-20 Thread Walt Farrell
On 6/15/2006 8:09 AM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: AKAIK the only cases where AC(1) is appropriate are where a privileged program does a task with RSAPF=YES, and I know of only five such cases: 1. The ATTACH of a jobstep 2. The ATTACH of the TSO TMP by the TSO SM 3. Authorized TSO CALL

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Pace
The failure I was told of happened in Florida. Sounds like Capital City Bank in Tallahassee, Fl. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/20/2006 3:30:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like Capital City Bank in Tallahassee, Fl. One of the Crosses in GA. had Murphy bite their ICEBERGs too. Had a failure during an upgrade and after it was all over no bytes were preserved.

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Iceberg took a lot of heat early on for excessive downtime. Much of this was due to microcode changes coming out on a regular basis you see. Applying the changes was disruptive, and it counted against the machine's uptime. We had one of the first in Canada (around 1991 -- I can't remember the

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
FYI: I assumed it was a processor at first, but it turns out to be a silicon transistor. http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/06/20/ibm.chip.reut/index.html Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Tuesday, June

Re: RAID Failures (WAS: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip-

2006-06-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The failure I was told of happened in Florida. Many moons ago, one of the major Canadian banks installed one of EMC's early SYMMETRIC devices (548xx?). And, within a week they had a major microcode catastophe! The directory had failed. It was fully duplexed, but the microcode didn't know how

Re: OSA-ICC Options

2006-06-20 Thread Roger Lowe
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:39:25 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..snip.. In the meantime, we've been at this for days, our primary problem being that we can't get the PC running Attachmate to come up as a NIP console. Daniel, As a thought - Have you defined your OSA-ICC

Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting

2006-06-20 Thread Jon Brock
I don't have any success stories yet -- just war stories. We are trying a couple different things on VM and Linux at the moment, but we haven't gotten up to speed in either of them. (One of the projects -- an app from a third-party -- had some disk performance problems that we are

Re: TSM replacement alternatives

2006-06-20 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:16:32 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcement letters 204-310 and 204-311 (December, 2004) describe the TSM licensing terms and conditions if you'd like to get the official scoop. Come on ,enough theory Since when to you run a budget by reading

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:11:30 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2: the 144GB disk rotate at the same speed as the 72GB, so basically they can deliver the same amount of MB/sec. I thought that todays disks have more capacity on the outer tracks than on the inner ones.

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:33:33 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/20/2006 9:12:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought that todays disks have more capacity on the outer tracks than on the inner ones. Transfer rates vary

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
All this is speculation, though, because Ted didn't tell us what drives are in the Old EMC or in the Latest and greatest. The old are 46? I think. What was popular 3 years ago? The new are going to be 73, unless I get 'proof' that 146 will perform. (64 GB Cache). Our out-sourcer hates to be

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Tom Marchant
Is it Friday already? On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:54:40 -0400, Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What ever happened to IBM's bubble memory? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2006 1:55 PM I seem to recall that a Gene Amdahl startup (Commercial Data Servers?) did some work with cooling an off the shelf

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Tom Marchant
IBM started selling RVA because they had microcode problems that STK couldn't fix? I don't think so. Tom Marchant On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:34:13 -0400, Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard, could have been an urban myth, the reason IBM came into the picture was to fix the microcode

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Tom Marchant
Still not enough information, Ted. There are many options available. Just knowing the capacity is a little like only knowing how many engines you have on your processor. There are other important variables. On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this is

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
IBM started selling RVA because they had microcode problems that STK couldn't fix? I don't think so. I agree! That is the most bizarre assertation I've ever heard. While the ICEBERG had problems, initially, it became a work-horse. And, that is why (IMO) IBM started selling them. . -teD

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Tom Marchant
I like that word. Assertation. Do you mind if I use it? Tom Marchant On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM started selling RVA because they had microcode problems that STK couldn't fix? I don't think so. I agree! That is the most bizarre assertation

Re: Catalog overhead in a GRS-plex

2006-06-20 Thread Shane
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 02:18 -0500, Tom Rusnak wrote: Greetings Mark Thomen and all, I'm in the process of tuning our catalogs. In looking at the results of a F CATALOG,REPORT,PERFORMANCE command I see a huge difference in the amount of time to process a BCS ENQ between systems in a

Re: 146GB vs 73GB

2006-06-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Still not enough information, Ted. There are many options available. Just knowing the capacity is a little like only knowing how many engines you have on your processor. There are other important variables. YES! I know. And, I listed almost all of them in the original post. . -teD Marching

Re: IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Assertation. Do you mind if I use it? At the risk of going O/T, no. Usually, the word is assertion, but I believe this one exists. (Of course, I could be wrong. I thought I was wrong once. It turns out, I was mistaken.) . -teD Marching to the beat of a different flute

IBM/Gerogia Tech unveil fast chip

2006-06-20 Thread Phil Payne
Bill Donnelly? == He occasionally gave executive briefings, and I saw him once at a GUIDE or SHARE meeting. A sharp dude who knew his stuff. But he also categorically stated that what the StorageTek guys were trying to do with Iceberg was impossible. Paraphrasing: Believe me,

Should the /dev file system be a TFS?

2006-06-20 Thread Brian Peterson
Looking for advice On z/OS 1.7, should the /dev file system be defined as a TFS (temporary file system)? The manuals seem to indicate that all character special files in /dev get created at IPL time anyway, so why not have this file system be a TFS? Pros? Cons? Thanks, Brian

Re: SSH and VPN for securing TN3270 sessions

2006-06-20 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, We are considering the SSH solution (OpenSSH or Tectia SSH) to encrypt TN3270 sessions between mainframe and end users' PC (end to end), and file transfers. While the existing VPN is in place to provide the encrypted tunnels over the internet, I would like to

Re: infoprint port monitor, Windows active directory

2006-06-20 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Steve Gear wrote: Hello, OS level: z/os 1.7 We are using infoprint server/IP printway to print to distributed printers. The desktops are using Port Monitor to send print to the mainframe. Our issue is updating the printer driver defined in port monitor when the printer model changes. Not a

Re: Should the /dev file system be a TFS?

2006-06-20 Thread Skip Robinson
Ours is an ordinary HFS created just for /dev . On our development system, all the objects (?) in /dev are of type 'character' except for this one: File 666 2006-06-20 11:42 27129 null It appears to be a log of some kind. Note that is shows today's date. Contents include some of our

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