Re: IFL z/VM

2014-01-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 January 2014 12:57, JT wrote: > From my manager. > Is it possible to run CICS (executing COBOL application code) on an IFL? Short answer: no. The only OSs that IBM supports IPLing on an IFL are Linux and zVM. But even under either of these, IBM will not license you a version of CICS that wi

Re: multiple TSO Sessions (try this)

2014-01-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 January 2014 11:35, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > I truly believe that one ID per person with the ability to sign on once per > LPAR (and share the same ISPPROF) is simpler to implement. No doubt. But "simpler to implement" may not be at the top of everyone's list. > I don't believe that the "typi

Re: multiple TSO Sessions

2014-01-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On 29 January 2014 17:19, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>think there was also a problem with the TIOC sending command output to the >>wrong terminal. I.e. enter the LISTALC command on terminal#1 and the >>results might go to terminal#2 instead. But I'm real vague on that last one. >> > I can do that righ

Re: JESGB400/IEFGB400

2014-02-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 February 2014 14:24, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Harold Gray wrote: [...] >L R3,JESCTEXTLOAD PAGEABLE EXTENTION > DROP R3 > USING JESPEXT,R3 EST ADDRESSABILITY WITH EXT > L R4,JESGB400GET MSG WRITER ADDRESS > * > This code has been wo

Re: JESGB400/IEFGB400

2014-02-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 February 2014 19:12, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 2/4/2014 3:51 PM, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Harold Gray wrote: >> >> I'm coming to that conclusion also. I can't seem to get the 2.1 data >> areas vol 4 (JESCT) to download the whole book so I'll have to wait and try >> it again later. > > > Both pointers a

Re: JESGB400/IEFGB400

2014-02-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 February 2014 13:19, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Harold Gray wrote: > Basically we are wanting to detect the NOT CAT 2's and flag the job for > repair. I am also looking at using MPF exits or the general IEAVMXIT. > Trying to allow for multiple exits and how to specify them. But surely those are

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 February 2014 14:21, Jim Mulder wrote: > When a length of 0 is requested on GETMAIN or STORAGE OBTAIN, > VSM treats this as a successful request, and returns an address of 0. > In my opinion, this was a poor design choice, made long before my time, > and I have seen it lead to diagnosis conf

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 February 2014 18:22, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: > On 2/12/2014 6:06 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: >> >> I object far more to returning an address of 0 than to accepting a >> length of 0 on the request. To be sure, you are allowed to store no >> more than 0 bytes in y

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 February 2014 20:07, Charles Mills wrote: >> Sure - it could assign one. It wouldn't have to be unique; just > access-exception correct. > > And then the OP would have cleared that "dummy" storage area passed back > from OBTAIN and wondered how _that_ happened. If you clear only your reques

Re: Branch (was: Performance question - adding)

2014-02-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 February 2014 09:37, John McKown wrote: > LT R0,CURRENT #LOAD CURRENT AND SET CC > SPM R1 #SAVE CC FROM LT > A R0,SUM #ADD SUM TO IT > IPM R1 #RESTORE CC FROM LT > STOC R0,SUM,NZ #STORE SUM ONLY IF CC OF LT WAS NZ > > Basically this loads CURRENT into R0, setting the CC based on its value.

Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability

2014-02-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 February 2014 11:47, Miklos Szigetvari wrote: > We have here serious problems with the v2.1 C/C++ compiler, the generated > machine code largely differs from 1.13, and with some serious errors (till > now) Do these problems go with the compiler itself, or with the TARGET and OPTIMIZE level

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 February 2014 19:34, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > I could imagine some use cases for a new instruction, that supresses > the execution of the next instruction, depending on certain values of the > condition code. For example SKIP NEXT INSTRUCTION IF NOT ZERO, > or IF ZERO. [...] > I'm sure, that

Re: assembler

2014-02-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 February 2014 11:12, DASDBILL2 wrote: > So what was the correct term for non-virtual storage way back then for non-67 > models of the S/360? Storage? Real storage? V=R storage? The terms I > heard most frequently included the word "core." In my circles the term "core" survived for qui

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 February 2014 18:39, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 02/18/2014 at 01:47 PM, Tony Harminc said: > >>Indeed this is the way conditional execution and branching works (and >>has always worked) in channel programs. > > No. "No" what? > Every generat

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 February 2014 21:40, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 02/19/2014 at 02:43 PM, Tony Harminc said: >>I didn't suggest, let alone say, anything counter to this. > > Then who wrote "Indeed this is the way conditional execution and > branching works (and h

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 February 2014 11:37, Chase, John wrote: > Browsing the dumped storage around the program's load address (x'7000') I > see: > > Event 1 CSECT DBR915B0 GPR 15 (Address 7000) > 700080ECD00C*..}.* > ^^^

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 February 2014 15:28, Chase, John wrote: > It appears from our tentative diagnosis that the "MVCK instruction" was not > in executable code, but rather was just data > in the PARM passed to the program at invocation. Thus the questions about > where the system places PARM data > before tra

Re: Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program

2014-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 February 2014 10:44, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > two people from the Los Gatos VLSI lab originally did mainframe pascal > for VLSI chip tools ... this goes on eventually to become the vs/pascal > product. Amoung other things it was used to implement the original > mainframe TCP/IP support.

Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 March 2014 18:30, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > [1] Does IBM have a z/OS code page for ISO 8859-15 yet? IBM has produced only two code pages for Latin-9; one ASCIIish (923) and one EBCDIC (924). Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 3 March 2014 20:54, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > GIYF. I refer you to these Wikipedia references, the first of which makes it > quite clear that iso-8859-1 is definitely NOT > Windows, though it does call it "ASCII-based"; and the second of which is a > nice reference for IBM-1047, from wh

Re: Validation of a resource name

2014-03-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 March 2014 09:04, Charles Mills wrote: > (2) you run the risk of rejecting something in the client that is actually valid on the server -- > for example if the server is enhanced in some way down the road before you can enhance the client. And surely the most ubiquitous (and egregious) of th

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 March 2014 09:01, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > Much earlier, someone decided that the power unit for the 650 was of a > convenient height for drying socks. A Selenium rectifier blew out. Not a pleasant smell (the rectifier; no comment on the socks), as anyone who's been near a cooked on

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 March 2014 10:57, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > I would tend to use the distinction that for the psect, a private copy > was loaded and adjusted for the specific virtual address space location > ... separately from (r/o) memory mapping the executable image with no > requirement for pre-loadin

Re: all this crap from Umberto Silvestri

2014-03-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 March 2014 13:17, Bonno, Tuco wrote: > anybody know how to set up Microsoft Outlook to purge/quarantine/shitcan all > this stuff we're getting from him ? Maybe someone (or all of us) should call the local IBM office and complain about this. IBM is notoriously bad with these OOO notificati

Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 March 2014 08:48, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > My microwave oven and my clock radio don't support 24-hour. Microwave ovens are an odd case, because some support 24-hour time, but most don't. But more interestingly many of them support a curious mixed-base notation. So I can set my coffee to heat

Re: S0C1 TSO TESTAUTH

2014-03-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 March 2014 11:54, MichealButz wrote: [blank lines removed for readability] > I am setting a breakpoint at offset +0 in my program and getting a S0C1 at > location +E > > The following is my scenario > > TESTAUTH 'ISP.SISPLPA(ISPF)' CP > LOAD 'MYLOAD.LIBRARY(MYMOD)' > Q MYMO.MYMOD.+0 > AT +0

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 11:08, Donald Russell wrote: >> I've been using WTO ROUTCDE=11 to display various message in the job log >> of assembler language batch applications that's great/easy for fixed >> text messages. >> >> VM/CMS has the APPLMSG macro which makes it ridiculously simple to build >>

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 14:01, John McKown wrote: > Wish I had thought of using the Metal C version of sprintf(). I actually > ended up figuring out how to write a number of z/OS UNIX commands using LE > enabled assembler so that I could use things such as sprintf() or > snprintf(). Well Metal C hasn't

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 14:53, Donald Russell wrote: > Holly Smokes! Metal C looks perfect THANKS! :-) I just need sprintf > features Please keep us posted with your results. I haven't actually tried it, but I've thought about it a few times - enough to look at the calling and environment conve

Re: Testing out TSO Authorized commands

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 March 2014 15:39, Micheal Butz wrote: > I have authorized TSO command actually a program that issues a modeset to get > into supervisor state > > When I run this program under TESTAUTH to debug it > And it is in AUTHCMD/AUTHPGM > In IKJTSOXX I get a s0c1at the begining of the program > > Ho

Re: building text messages with substitutions

2014-03-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 14 March 2014 01:51, Donald Russell wrote: > I've been looking for doc on how to do this It seems I need to call > __cinit to set up a C environment, then I can call sprintf and finally > __cterm to terminate the C environment I'm not sure, but the way I read it sprintf() doesn't need

Re: curious: volsers < 6 non-blank chars & non-numeric tape

2014-03-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 14 March 2014 13:49, John McKown wrote: > 1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank > characters for a regularly used volume? Especially any trailing blanks? Decades ago the university I worked at had a standard of N and F for Native and Foreign tapes, respecti

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 March 2014 13:51, John Eells wrote: > MVS was the prior name of what has become z/OS. What was started out as MVS > in 1974 was renamed to: [...] Although the name MVS was around in 1974, IBM chose, for the usual marketing reasons of the day, to sell it as OS/VS2 Release 2, presumably to

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 March 2014 12:00, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > How did the 67 deal with legacy code's use of the sign bit to terminate > parameter lists? I doubt that much legacy code ran on such a machine in 32-bit mode. There would surely be other reasons to run such code only in 24-bit mode - not least the

Re: APAR OA30338 for PDSE Users

2014-03-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 March 2014 10:48, Jim McAlpine wrote: > Thanks Tom, that was the cause of the problem. I logged off TSO and back on > again and was able to delete the offending dataset. > > Sorry for sending everyone off on a wild goose chase. Well you didn't exactly have ideal information to work with. I

Re: NJE Clarifications

2014-03-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 March 2014 11:18, Jake anderson wrote: > For an NJE to work we must have to two different nodes. Is there a way for > NJE to work within a single Node(Monoplex) just to communicate to another > product(As a socket-Running in same Node) ? For many years (decades, actually) there have been ot

Re: Reflexivity (was: NJE Clarifications)

2014-03-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 March 2014 08:11, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:12:49 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >> >>I''m not asking a question; I'm pointing out a false analogy. "TCP/IP, >>in contrast, is blessedly tolerant." makes no sense. >>... >>I'm asking in what sense TCP/IP is more tol

Re: old RJE 360 workstation mod - reflexivity

2014-03-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 March 2014 12:03, Bill Godfrey wrote: > The current thread about reflexivity reminds me of an old program we tested > in the mid-70's, before NJE, that was called the Iowa Workstation. It was a > modification from the University of Iowa of the HRTPB360 program that came > with JES2, that

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 16:16, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > Wouldn't it be nice if all the header files were trilingual? > Assembler/PLS/Metal C? It'll take a while. Ugh, please. :-( There's nothing wrong with Metal C that a complete redesign wouldn't fix. But in any case, what would you do to allow PL/X

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 16:56, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>But in any case, what would you do to allow PL/X and C to pick out >>their own code? The assembler vs PL/X or C comment format makes it >>easy, but both PL/X and C have /* comments */ . >> > #if ? But how will both PL/X and assembler not see it? To

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 18:11, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>> #if ? >> >>But how will both PL/X and assembler not see it? >> > That's their problem. Perhaps AGO for assembler. And hasn't > PL/X something similar? Well you can't reasonably ask for trilingual macros and then shrug your shoulders when asked f

Metal C generating junk for long input lines?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
Speaking of Metal C, I'm seeing a strange thing just recently. My C input is a VB 255 PDSE member, and the output is an FB 80 PDSE member. Whenever an input line exceeds 80 characters, the output assembler "source" has a bogus line with unprintable characters where the wrapped part of the original

Re: Metal C vs. HLASM - for C callable subroutine?

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 19:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > >Well you can't reasonably ask for trilingual macros and then shrug > >your shoulders when asked for how it might work. > > > Actually, I can. That's an implementation technique. Suppose a > Requirement for trilingual macros were to be submitted

Re: Allocating file in Rex exec

2014-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 March 2014 21:50, Micheal Butz wrote: > "Alloc fi(myddnam) da('"my.pds.name(member)"') shr" > > I get an error routine not found You are calling a REXX function named my.pds.name(member) which presumably is not what you intended. Why do you have those inner double quotes? Tony H.

Re: Ever see "automatic" 30-day trials for mainframe software?

2014-03-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 26 March 2014 12:20, Charles Mills wrote: > Right. Good input. Thanks. I have shipped software with a hard-coded > expiration date. What I am looking for is a "floating" expiration date that > would be 30 days after installation, whether installed today or a year from > today. It depends to a

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 02:28, Mohamed Juma wrote: > What is the recommended way to install z/os from scratch to a new data > center, includes new hardware z machine, DASD, tape system. If you are in this unusual position, IBM will surely be already knocking at your door to help you do all this. For a

Re: Compiler error in z/OS C compiler

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 09:47, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > I just realized that "NULL returning 0xFF00" was designed when we > still had 24 bit addressing, so there must have been other reasons > for this design decision. I remember heated discussions on this matter at my university computer centre in t

Re: RES: Messages Prefix

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 14:00, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Look in "Relating component ID to component name, module prefix, and product" > in book > "MVS Diagnosis: Reference". > This one should help you in a way for IBM software. I believe someone said on > IBM-MAIN that IBM reserves the first lette

IBM Explorer for z/OS - installation problems?

2014-04-02 Thread Tony Harminc
I thought I'd try it, but on my Windows 7 the installer just quietly exits. Of course I can provide more details if I know what's important, but have some of you installed it and had it Just Work? Any pointers? I downloaded it from http://www-01.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/ibmexplforzos and tried "S

Re: IBM Explorer for z/OS - installation problems?

2014-04-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 April 2014 23:28, Rob Schramm wrote: > > Right-click - run as administrator Dang - I should've thought of that. Thanks! Though it would be a bit nicer if it said something, rather then just going away silently. OK - so now that I have it installed, I can't see what it's useful for. It has a

Re: Real programmers eat foo

2014-04-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 5 April 2014 21:14, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > What data center food/drink customs have others encountered? In my early days as junior sysprog we did a lot of late night testing. In those days long predating the popularization of "good" coffee beans and methods, the night shift operator

Re: Email disruption, brought to us by Yahoo!

2014-04-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 April 2014 08:22, John McKown wrote: > Messages posted to mailing lists (including listserv, > mailman, majordomo, etc) by Yahoo subscribers are blocked when the list > forwards them to other Yahoo (and other participating ISPs) subscribers. Presumably this to some extent explains why Gmail

Re: Diagnosing QSAM CLOSE RC4

2014-04-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 April 2014 14:26, Alan Haff wrote: > Following up on this problem. > > The close fails because the DEB address in the DCB is pointing to a DEB > that's not in the TCB's DEB chain. > > I don't know why/how the DEB chain in the TCB is losing this particular > DEB. I'm certainly not manipulatin

Re: Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address

2014-04-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 April 2014 08:18, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > I bet APL's solution to this would be like 2 weird symbols. > > I was just introduced to it by my senior colleague today, and it's ... dense. Like Perl, it's been called a write-only language. Tony H. ---

Re: Forget: Sorting CSV data that begins with an IP address

2014-04-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 April 2014 14:58, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > I'm looping some 5000 times in REXX and doing functions (NetView ping, SNMP > walk, etc) sequentially. They don't necessarily need to be sequential. I'm > just going through a list of printers and I want to test them. > > So.. Is it pos

Re: Sorry state of IT education?

2014-04-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 April 2014 15:45, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > I personally take offense to the "drone" bashing. Because I'm a "drone" now, > apparently. I read this not as drone bashing, but as management bashing. The word "drone" with its implication of idleness and other even less appropriate fu

Re: Copy a SVC Dump

2014-04-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 April 2014 19:01, Mark Yuhas wrote: > Bear with me. I have an old program that copies a SVC Dump to regular data > set with a non-system DSN. It has been working for many years. I need to > make a few changes for the current configuration of z/OS 1.13. IPCS accepts > the system dump d

Re: Beyond the EC12

2014-04-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 April 2014 14:41, Chase, John wrote: > And if IBM has disclosed anything to ISVs, the NDAs undoubtedly prohibit > disclosing even that fact publicly. I've seen lots of NDA technical material over the years, but in my experience IBM has *never* disclosed any branding info to ISVs before ann

Re: AT-TLS question

2014-05-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On 1 May 2014 07:48, Jim McAlpine wrote: > We have the need to encrypt messages sent from z/OS on a particular port to > an application running under Webshere on Windows. The outgoing messages are > HTTP protocol and they would need to be converted to the HTTPS that > Websphere understands. Is tha

Re: AT-TLS question

2014-05-02 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 May 2014 03:40, Peter Hunkeler wrote: >>Yes - this is probably the classic use case for AT-TLS. > > Wouldn't this only encrypt the path from ip to ip. ip would decrypt and send > plain text to WebSphere? > > I understand "application transparent" to say that the traffic is enctrypted > "on

Re: Upgrade Product - Vsam Files

2014-05-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 May 2014 16:02, Darth Keller wrote: > So maybe this is nit-picking but > > "It is VSAM datasets, not files" > > How does one distinguish between a dataset & a file? By name? Well, a file name looks like /usr/foo/bar or foo/bar or just bar . A dataset name looks like USER.FOO.BAR or USER.FOO.

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 May 2014 15:58, Ed Jaffe wrote: > FWIW, I don't think the source code for Program Products like ADRDSSU was > available even in the pre-OCO days. Some IBM Program Products had source code available from the earliest days. For example, the PL/I Optimizing compiler had source code that was si

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 May 2014 22:09, Mitch wrote: > And for the likes of the larger ISVs, I would guess all of their product > source >code is in escrow and kept up to date. Maybe not so much for the "mom and >pop" software >companies, but the big ones, yes. I think it's exactly the "mom and pop" ISVs that ar

Re: Where are the allocation messages of a USS process?

2014-05-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 May 2014 12:08, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > Perhaps because (at that link which Kirk posted) there is this note: > > "Messages that would normally go to the JESYSMSG data set are captured, but > messages that go to JESMSGLG are not captured." > > Allocation messages go to JESMSGLG, and so

Re: Another C compiler shift bug?

2014-05-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 May 2014 19:34, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > ST doesn't accept a 3-modifier expression, that is an artifact of the XL > C/C++ "assembler" listing format. This is really really annoying, and has been for years. The compiler is now quite capable of producing correct assembler output when the

Re: Where are the allocation messages of a USS process?

2014-05-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 May 2014 17:58, Jon Perryman wrote: > As Tony said, they are all WTO messages. JES decides where it wants to put > the message (or not do anything with it). Well I'm not so sure they're all WTOs. I think there's a PUT (likely RPL-type) interface to the JESYSMSG dataset that allocation writ

Re: Is there a DSECT macro that maps VSAM ACB MACR1, etc.?

2014-05-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 May 2014 19:23, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 5/22/2014 4:17 PM, Charles Mills wrote: >> >> Is there a DSECT macro that maps VSAM ACB MACR1, MACR2, MACR3 and MACR4? >> Roughly analogous to DCBD? Or is SHOWCB, etc., the only supported interface? > > IFGACB? Or do you need something else? IFGACB and D

Re: Program Call Vs SVC

2014-05-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 May 2014 10:47, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 5/23/2014 5:04 AM, Peter Relson wrote: >> Of course I agree that it is much easier when the TCB key matches the >> execution key. This can be done for subtasks which is why ATTACH supports >> attaching a task but not making it dispatchable initially (DIS

Re: TPUT in FULLSCR problems

2014-05-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 May 2014 17:56, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: > On 5/23/2014 5:55 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: >> >> I checked my out buffer that's not my code the proof being my display >> displays correctly That's hardly proof. >> It's after I hit that the problems occurs Is your buffer perhaps longer than yo

Re: Special characters for Passwords

2014-05-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 May 2014 20:39, Charles Mills wrote: > A former employer required a device of slightly better design. It was a > response to a challenge generated by the server (I think; it may have used a > counter in the device, incremented at each login attempt). How is a clock > any better? Or, th

Re: CSV019I Clarification

2014-05-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On 26 May 2014 01:47, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 18:43:48 -0400 MichealButz > wrote: > > :>I have an APF authorized module running of out of the LNKLIST I try to load > :>a module from an non apf dsn concatenation and get CSV019I abend > > :>I am in problem state key 8 when I d

Re: SMPPTS and funny (IMHO) problem

2014-06-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 June 2014 11:04, Geoff Rousell wrote: > "DFSMS V2.1 is increases the PDSE member size to approximately 2,146,435,071 > records. > This is an increase from the previous limit of 15,728,639 records. Unfamiliar magic numbers. But wouldn't you know it, while not fully explained, they aren't qui

Re: EBCDIC viewer for Windows

2014-06-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 June 2014 03:49, Linda Mooney wrote: > I am looking for an EBCDIC viewer for Windows, to view flat datasets that > were created on the mainframe. I usually use the HxD editor for this. http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd It's a general purpose hex editor with lots of bells & whistles, but it's easy

Re: Where to lookup what IKJEGS6A / SVC 61 does?

2014-06-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 June 2014 05:25, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > Working on some asm code I stumbled on an call to SVC 61. SVC 61 seems to be > service IKJEGS6A. Neither > googling nor searching MVS and TSO manuals helped to find what IKJEGS6A does. > Can anyone help me with a > pointer to some doc? There is a n

Re: Address space puzzle

2014-06-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 June 2014 17:02, Mike Schwab wrote: > Boy, this is complicated. Too bad the 64 bit address could be > redefined to have a 16 bit ASID and 48 bit virtual address in a 64 bit > address field. It would limit z/OS to 64K ASIDs of 256TiB address > spaces. Would require hardware changes in a ne

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 June 2014 10:38, Micheal Butz wrote: > Thanks let me get to the point > The program that creates the PC rtn > Is the AUTHCMD/PGM so I cann't use IKJEFTSR > However I am thinking the PC rtn might be able to I'm not clear on your environment. Are you starting off as an APF authorized TSO comm

Re: HLASM doubleword set-symbol arithmetic

2014-07-05 Thread Tony Harminc
On 5 July 2014 11:55, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > A less 'easy' alternative would be to introduce types, and associated > instructions: GBLA32, GBLA64, SETA32, SETA64, EQU32, EQU64, ... If someone for some reason decided to do it this way, I'd expect GB

Re: SVC 99 APF Authorized Library

2014-07-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 July 2014 09:33, John McKown wrote: > I really wish that I knew exactly what Michael hopes to accomplish. I think we -- that is those of us still following to this point -- all do. > As best as I recall, it was that he had an APF authorized TSO command, > which was properly authorized. And

Re: TSO Test does not support 65-bit (actually 64-bit) debugging?

2014-07-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 July 2014 06:37, Bob Shannon wrote: > Read the manual. > > Bob Shannon > Rocket Software Or use the HELP subcommand. Address formats, which include register notation, are discussed under the ASSIGN command. Tony H. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:

Re: Authorizing 8 char technical userid to use TSO CONSOLE command

2014-07-14 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 July 2014 21:38, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 07/09/2014 at 03:27 AM, Barry Merrill said: > >>While I clearly didn't recollect the correct command names, I do >>remember specifically that when one of the commands that used TPUT >>was encountered in the list of commands in my benchma

Re: z/OS System Initialization Logic (IPL)

2014-07-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 July 2014 10:03, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > Is there a URL to download the PDF without a userid and password? What > about a URL to list the available documents? I didn't need a userid or password to download. And that was with a new private window in Firefox, so it's not that I had

Re: Convert to base64 help

2014-08-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 August 2014 21:59, zMan wrote: > ASCII vs. EBCDIC? Almost certainly. Base64 is a way of representing arbitrary byte values using a set of characters that is less likely than many to be mangled in transmission. Think of it as a more efficient way of representing byte values than specifying he

Re: AMBLIST, AMASPZAP, and UNIX Program Objects

2014-08-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 August 2014 12:49, John Gilmore wrote: > The only way to avoid cataract surgery is to die before you need it, > which, as evasive maneuvers go, is overkill. > > The two procedures ought to be independent, but they are not. Why ought they to be independent? (assuming the two procedures to be

Re: Best way to tell in code if in Supervisor State?

2014-08-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 August 2014 05:45, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > :>But what would be the best way to determine whether the caller had entered > :>in Supervisor State so I could return to the caller in his original mode > :>(and also avoid the overhead of MODESET)? Some sort of "store PSW" > :>instruction so I co

Re: revisiting the documentation dilemma

2014-08-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 19 August 2014 11:43, Pommier, Rex wrote: > Yep, spent much time there yesterday and all I could find were individual > manuals. I was hoping to be able to download the entire library like I used > to be able to do but it appears as though that functionality has gone the way > of the dodo b

Re: Meet Cobol's hard core fans

2014-08-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 August 2014 16:48, Greg Shirey wrote: > As for the other 90% of businesses running mainframes today, Vecchio thinks > the Cobol brain drain will be the > catalyst for more extensive migrations off the platform, through rewrites, > moves to packaged applications or > recompiling and re-host

Re: YASI: QSAM via URL.

2014-08-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 August 2014 09:52, John McKown wrote: >> Define 'legacy'. That is a dirty word for me. I don't really like it 'they' >> say mainframe is 'legacy'. :-[ > > What is a good word for "like we did it on OS/360". I.e. something > which is designed to run in z/OS batch using sequential data sets >

Re: YASI: QSAM via URL.

2014-08-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 August 2014 08:01, John McKown wrote: > I really wonder if this would be of any use in a z/OS environment. > > //INPUT DD URL='file:///etc/resolv.conf' > or > //INPUT DD URL='http://some.web.site/download/filedata.txt' > or > //INPUT DD URL='ftp://user:password@host/download/filedata.txt' A

Re: SUBSYS interface

2014-08-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 August 2014 10:30, SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Harold Gray wrote: > I have a working SUBSYS interface. My code processes a few of the interfaces > (OPEN, ALLOC,... etc.) and previously resided below the line. I am trying to > move the code above the line. Everything works fine except one item. I

Re: Recovery routines

2014-08-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 August 2014 16:48, Micheal Butz wrote: > I have question I understand that an authorized command run under a different > tmp Well, a different task structure. > Is that always meaning the same program while in problem state runs Under one > tmp and when I switch to > Supervisor under ano

Re: Deleting Cluster Using IEFBR14 or IDCAMS

2014-09-02 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 September 2014 10:32, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I use DSLIST, but I assume that invokes IDCAMS. (TSO DELETE also? I haven't > tried that.) TSO DELETE has been an IDCAMS command since MVS 2.0; maybe even in SVS, a system I never used. Tony H.

Re: Demonstrating Moore's law

2014-09-05 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 September 2014 21:00, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > I've periodically wondered if ibm mainframe pricing is somewhat along > the lines of airline seat sales ... if you already flying the plane > ... then getting any money at all for otherwise empty seats is better > than nothing. when i did chi

DEBs and DCBs and friends

2014-09-05 Thread Tony Harminc
Under what circumstances can the JS TCB DEB pointer (TCBDEB) be zero? I have at least one open DCB, and previously I've seen a DEB on that chain for each open DCB or ACB. Put another way, how can I reliably find an open DCB/ACB for a given DDNAME? I've previously (while the program is running) gon

Re: Rexx Idiom (was: FTP of EBCDIC file)

2014-09-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 September 2014 10:30, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > One can speak German in English: "I have been writing Rexx since ten years." Or French, and probably Spanish: "I am writing Rexx since ten years." And another French giveaway: "It's not because

Re: How tell if have OMVS Segment

2014-09-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 September 2014 19:17, Charles Mills wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that "cannot be dubbed ..." == lacking an OMVS > segment? Close, but not exactly. There are several more subtle reasons that may cause a dub to fail. What I've done (in assembler code, but it could be in C and probably o

Re: How tell if have OMVS Segment

2014-09-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 September 2014 20:54, Charles Mills wrote: [...] >Hopefully LE does not try the dub and fail before my "user" C code gets going, >leaving me with no chance to > diagnose the problem in a user-friendly manner. That alternative explanation would then be that LE is catching a return code fro

Re: How tell if have OMVS Segment

2014-09-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 September 2014 13:37, Charles Mills wrote: > The doc for the ABEND code is pretty poor. For U4093/90 V1R13 at least says > > X'90' (144) Condition management for MVS could not be initialized. > > Mmm. That's helpful. How about "Required OMVS segment not found." But that's not what it says.

Re: Fwd: [sqlite] presentation about ordering and atomicity of filesystems

2014-09-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 September 2014 10:38, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > however, ibm CKD dasd had a peculiar power failure mode ... that might > occur in the middle of a write operation ... there would be sufficient > power to complete a write in progress ... but not sufficient power to > continue transmitting t

Re: Where's my DCB?

2014-09-17 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 September 2014 11:24, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > address MVS 'EXECIO 0 DISKR SYSUT1 (open' > > Somewhere in the world this should leave a DCB. Can I find it > (chasing pointers or otherwise) so I can inspect it with STORAGE()? > (This might

Re: Extensions (was: Interested in BASH ... )

2014-10-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 October 2014 12:30, Mike Schwab wrote: > If Bash was added to the POSIX standard, they would have to support it. Well presumably they'd write their own compatible program, or buy one. GNU's Not UNIX, but z/OS is. Tony H. -

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