Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups.

Yes, the Populists succumbed to racism in 1896, but they did so by largely folding themselves into the Democratic party--THE PARTY OF SLAVERY, SECESSION, AND SEGREGATION! Every time Democratic apologists try to appeal to a progressive legacy in the party, they wind up cherry-picking. :-) The

Re: [marxmail] to "Never Biden" voters: We need a plan

How is this not just another scare tactic to push people into voting for Biden? I don't think there's a lot of reliable evidence to indicate that Trump is headed to a victory, though I frankly concede that I don't understand how he could have defeated a garden gnome in 2016. For this reason, I

Re: [marxmail] An Interview with Jill Stein

He comes close to saying that at different points, for example: https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-evangelical-christians-are-israels-best-friends/ But if anyone has a better source more specifically disparaging young American Jews, please share it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links:

Re: [marxmail] Self-immolation at the Trump Trial

Thanks for the article. It is minimally informative. Much of the country has--to one extent or another--figured out the two-party flim-flam. It is a big leap between recognizing that and setting yourself on fire. I didn't raise the issue because I expected a solid answer, at least not in the

Re: [marxmail] Self-immolation at the Trump Trial

Alas! The notorious NY Times subscription linke. I'll check it out though. I did hear a general reference to this belief in "conspiracy theories," but it never ventured into specifics. On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 10:09 AM Glenn Kissack via groups.io wrote: > [image:

[marxmail] Self-immolation at the Trump Trial

The authorities--and the media--claim that they don't know anything about the motives behind the self-immolation outside the start of Trump's trial. They're just saying that the fellow probably had some personal issues. (Ya think?) He was hoping to draw attention to something he saw as important

Re: [marxmail] Why did the Supreme Court - unanimously - enable Trump to stand?

This way of blocking Trump's reelection was doomed. Section 3 of the 14th Amendment had no teeth in it because it wasn't really effective at keeping "insurrectionist" from returning to office. The Confederate general whose troops burned part of the town I grew up in wound up the governor of the

Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

Sawant did well but SAlt seems to have abandoned an entirely successful project for reasons that were never explained clearly . . . other than wanting to do other things. On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:07 AM Marv Gandall wrote: > John, I'd be interested, and I'm sure others would be too, in your

Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

It always astounds me how radicals can take very left-wing positions while swallowing aspects of the Great American BS hook line and sinker. Anyone who thinks that teachers or academics don't pay a price for being openly radical--and run a risk of paying even more--is simply delusional.

Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

As to when the Democrats drank their version of the kool aid, I've addressed the unchallenged facts of this every election. It didn't come out of Carter but the defeat of George McGovern, something the DNC at the time preferred rather than to lose power within the party. Leaders of American

Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

The question boils down to what ballot will most encourage the working class and its allies to rely on, cultivate, and exercise their independent power. The rest is just stale haggis. Whatever they put on the label, it's stale haggis. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all

[marxmail] New York Times video on January 6 storming of U.S. Capitol

It is a real accomplishment for the Times to have put together such a coherent visual account of the assault. Other media has shown clips but the full version is here: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/10007606996/capitol-riot-trump-supporters.html -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io

Re: [marxmail] Attack on Critical Race Theory: Racism & McCarthyism

CRT is infuriating, but we need to understand that it's about Republicans posturing for the base. The courts will have little choice but to kill it because the legislation is written so stupidly that they're not even clearly defining what they want to suppress. And being clear about what they

Re: [marxmail] How the Santa Fe Railroad Changed America Forever

The peaches keenest. On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 4:22 PM wrote: > Gee, isn't capitalism swell! Wythe > > On June 25, 2021 at 10:22 AM Dennis Brasky wrote: > > >> >> >> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/santa-fe-railroad-changed-america-forever-180977952/ >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

[marxmail] Independent Working class candidate for Cincinnati City Council

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Re: [marxmail] Wuhan "Leak" Nonsense Buried Finally

Can't read it without a subscription on LA Times site, but it's also here. https://californianewstimes.com/hiltzik-why-the-covid-lab-leak-hypothesis-is-quackery/376383/ On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:02 AM wrote: > Somebody gets it straight at last: > >

Re: [marxmail] Organize to Stop Republican Threat!

John, Didn't you cast a ballot that was indistinguishable from those cast by the DSA leaders? But I do get your point here. Over the course of the last half century and change, I think we've seen some choice opportunities slip right through our fingers. How you can have an issue like BLM that

Re: [marxmail] Biden's Wuhan Boogie

Agreed entirely. Yesterday I was listening to a news station on the radio interviewing one of the purveyors of this insanity. The interviewer raised the question of whether the Wuhan unit released the virus by accident or otherwise. The latter involved the notion that that people hoping to

Re: [marxmail] GOP Still Wants to Pretend the Preservation of Slavery Wasn’t a Major Reason for the American Revolution - CounterPunch.org

The movement for colonial independence began and always remained strongest in New England. The mid-Atlantic seaports moved along in support after the Tea Act. The Southern planters at no point had any immediate reason to involve themselves, excepting some of the Virginians who were looking more

Re: [marxmail] GOP Still Wants to Pretend the Preservation of Slavery Wasn’t a Major Reason for the American Revolution - CounterPunch.org

This one wasn't quit ready to send, but the main points seem clear enough. On Thu, May 13, 2021, 12:54 PM Mark Lause wrote: > The planters not only tended to be the most wealthy, but were the most > conservative, and tied more closely to the empire, including the most > pri

Re: [marxmail] GOP Still Wants to Pretend the Preservation of Slavery Wasn’t a Major Reason for the American Revolution - CounterPunch.org

The planters not only tended to be the most wealthy, but were the most conservative, and tied more closely to the empire, including the most private debt to the British, from which independence ultimately freed them. (That would be a more immediate and conscious incentive for the planters to

Re: [marxmail] The Victorian Women Who Pierced Glass Ceilings by Speaking to the Dead

At the risk of self-promotion, my own _Free Spirits: Spiritualism, Republicanism, and Radicalism in the Civil War Era_ covers the mass interest in spiritualism and it's importance in inspiring the Republican insurgency and the Unionist cause. It hints at the importance of spiritualism in the

Re: [marxmail] GOP Still Wants to Pretend the Preservation of Slavery Wasn’t a Major Reason for the American Revolution - CounterPunch.org

This has proved to be a productive discussion. The American Revolution hasn't been a major focus of my interest for years, and I particularly found David Walters' learned discussion of the recent arguments behind the misassessment of the American Revolution an excellent update. What has been my

Re: [marxmail] How Socialism Stopped Being a Dirty Word...And Started Winning Elections Across America

. . . And the remarkable 1920 election where Debs ran as a Socialist from a Federal penitentiary. Or the nearly 17% of the vote won by Bob La Follette's 1924 Progressive Party campaign. Journalists and pundits often just don't do their homework--and frequently lack the curiosity to do a bit of

Re: [marxmail] GOP Still Wants to Pretend the Preservation of Slavery Wasn’t a Major Reason for the American Revolution - CounterPunch.org

Yes, insofar as the bourgeois revolutions were about securting the right of property, they are about slavery . . . But what that has to do with specifically with why the American Revolution took place to avoid the British elimination of slavery remains a tad smudged. On Thu, May 6, 2021 at

Re: [marxmail] GOP Still Wants to Pretend the Preservation of Slavery Wasn’t a Major Reason for the American Revolution - CounterPunch.org

You mean the 1619 Project. I have no problem with any of it other than the bizarre understanding of the American Revolution. I'll restate a few of the big points . . . . 1. The calendar makes its own demands. Britain did not abolish slavery until the 1830s, so it was not under any greater

Re: [marxmail] GOP Still Wants to Pretend the Preservation of Slavery Wasn’t a Major Reason for the American Revolution - CounterPunch.org

>From one perspective one could say that the French Revolution took place to secure property rights that included their right to own slaves in Santo Domingo. Or that the English Revolution of the seventeenth century took place to impose the will of God on the Romanish heathen of Ireland. I've

Re: [marxmail] Chauvin Convicted; Crisis Remains

Apparently, the cops at Columbus shot down a 16 year old black female who had called them. When confronted by the riff-raff (ie, the citizens), one of them shouted back "blue lives matter." So it goes. And with unexpected speed. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all

[marxmail] Chauvin verdict in.

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Re: [marxmail] Academia is a cult

It's the old story of the wise men and the elephant . . . Some describe a cult. Others a masonic order. Or a Ponzi scheme. George Bernard Shaw described all professions as conspiracies against those who are not in them. They are best maintained by cloning themselves. Or turning initiates

Re: [marxmail] Liberal historians and 20th Century US political history

A first rate honest straightforward critique of corporate Progressivism and its later cheerleaders. It's so much easier to sell out the closer you get to the present. Personally, I'm still hoping for a phone call offering me big bucks to write the official biography of Matt Gaetz. Cheers, Mark

Re: [marxmail] The Dangers of Factionalism in DSA

I think Socialist Alternative has been involved in the DSA for years. On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 12:33 AM Dayne Goodwin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:00 PM Richard Modiano > wrote: > > > > "If the Left is to succeed where past generations have failed, it can’t > allow sectarian organizations

[marxmail] Liberal historians and 20th Century US political history

Chad Pearson's review of Romain Huret, _Nelson Lichtenstein, and Jean-Christian Vinel, eds. Capitalism Contested: The New Deal and Its Legacies_ Philadelphia, PA: University of Pennsylvania Press, 2020. "The chapters, written by early career scholars, mid-level academics, and endowed professors,

Re: [marxmail] Atlanta

You're confused auto correct w spell check On Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 1:32 PM wrote: > On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Mark Lause wrote: > > Who's for organizing a mass demonstration against the developers of > auto-correct? > >> >> > I'm opposed. When I was working

Re: [marxmail] Atlanta

Who's for organizing a mass demonstration against the developers of auto-correct? On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 5:15 PM Mark Lause via groups.io wrote: > Whatever happened to that hilarious poster of the 10 most dangerous people > to Americsn capitalism followed by Bob Arabians name repeated ten

Re: [marxmail] Atlanta

Whatever happened to that hilarious poster of the 10 most dangerous people to Americsn capitalism followed by Bob Arabians name repeated ten times. I can't believe nobody ever scanned it or photographed it to post on the internet. :-) > _._,_._,_ > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links:

Re: [marxmail] DSA rolls Dem dice in NV; beats the house

When political parties actually had some grassroots networks, this sort of loss of local or state control was less unusual than it is in our time. The national body invariably gets the final say about such things, and, historically, would rather lose than to have the party win without the

Re: [marxmail] Kshama Sawant Joins Democratic Socialists of America

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Re: [marxmail] Kshama Sawant Joins Democratic Socialists of America

The DSA could benefit greatly from a more coherent and organized current. I am at loss as to why this hasn't happened yet a rs ago. SAlt could btribute to this. But my sense is that it's not that coherent itself and has no plan to use the DSA to build a socialist movement. I'm basing that on

Re: [marxmail] Kshama Sawant Joins Democratic Socialists of America

I have no idea what you're trying to say or how you managed to reduce my comments to some bipolar grunt. :-) On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 6:54 PM wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 09:39 AM, Andrew Stewart wrote: > > is the first step towards becoming a Democrat or whether this is going to > be a Trot

Re: [marxmail] Kshama Sawant Joins Democratic Socialists of America

I think Socialist Alternatve members here have long been in the DSA. The question is what they do with it. On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 6:39 PM Andrew Stewart wrote: > I think Sawant has a much more serious grasp on reality than a lot of the > young people in DSA who have never had to honestly

Re: [marxmail] French Turn #poll-notice

Apologies on the misreading of the Dutch email address. My eyes aren't what they used to be. Unlike that of the Green Party, the DSA leadership has called for resolutions to be submitted to a national convention in wsix months. Because the Greens scorned membership structures, its leadership got

Re: [marxmail] French Turn #poll-notice

The French turn was used to describe entry into the Socialist Party and has to do with the relationship of a much smaller Trotskyist group to a mass working class party. It took place in the response to indications that the social democrats and Communists in France had, by 1934, drawn the right

Re: [marxmail] Rand Paul Launches Into Transphobic Rant Against Trans Nominee

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Re: [marxmail] Create a Mass Party! - COSMONAUT

Some days back, I forwarded an invitation to collaborate on a set of resolutions to offer the DSA. That does seem the best way to begin to coalesce something. On the other hand, we might as well just keep it all rather nice and intimate. More comfortable that way. Maybe a few Zoom sessions

[marxmail] DSA call for resolutions - Time to put meat on the bones of the Debs Caucus?

Interested members of this list who are members should firm up what we see as the most important and viable points we have to offer and propose them. [image: Democratic Socialists of America] Hello

Re: [marxmail] 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Survey Says : The Two-Way : NPR

Most of those who say they believe the craziest stuff don't really, but feel obligated to say that they are believers. Rather like most other religious faiths. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:27 PM wrote: > Surprised it's so few--and apparently fewer than think The Donald is from > God. > > The

Re: [marxmail] FBI official key figure for Jan. 6 riot

Recent press accounts assert that as many as 4 to 6 million Americans have security clearance as range. The numbers have gone up steadily as each administration strives to up the penalties for whistleblowing. On Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 10:44 AM Tristan Sloughter wrote: > I myself held a Secret

Re: [marxmail] Democrat Outrage on Facebook

It's probably worth noting that, historically, the Democratic party was probably the most important institutional architect of "whiteness" in the nineteenth and early twentieth century. People frequently wonder how it is that political parties change. The key is to remember than either of them

Re: [marxmail] Let us discuss, let us disagree - Tempest

What I said was that the people who want to have the discussion over strategic issues can just organize it and have it. Those who don't want to discuss it won't. On Sat, Feb 13, 2021, 10:47 AM wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:30 AM, Mark Lause wrote: > > there is absolutely no r

Re: [marxmail] Let us discuss, let us disagree - Tempest

The DSA is riddled with old-timers and aspiring young-timers who see themselves as future powerbrokers in Democratic politics. But there is absolutely no reason why those members of the DSA who want to have that discussion can't just organize it and have it. On Sat, Feb 13, 2021, 8:43 AM Louis

Re: [marxmail] Paul Street, Antonio Gramsci, and understanding fascism | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

. . . and so it goes. I think that, as people get older, they want to see signs of the Götterdämmerung, . Every four years of aging among my contemporaries seems to shave a few more off. Last round, the former president of my union responded to my criticisms of Biden that making such criticisms

Re: [marxmail] Why Black Marxism, Why Now? | Boston Review

I don't share Charlie's view of the antebellum Southern labor system as pre-capitalist, but I think he's making an important point here . . . though I may be missing some nuance of difference here. There certainly were particularly racist ideas in the 15th through 17th centuries (or earlier), but

Re: [marxmail] Long Road to Harpers Ferry: The Rise of the First American Left on JSTOR

It might be worth adding that, in addition to Bill Pelz's _People's History of Modern Europe_, Pluto Press, my own _Long Road to Harpers Ferry: The Rise of the First American Left_ is also available for free through the open access "People's History" section of JSTOR.

Re: [marxmail] “Where is the working class? It’s all over the world today”: Jairus Banaji in conversation with Sheetal Chhabria and Andrew Liu — borderlines

I understand the frustration with writing books. Those of us who do this are products of a time when it seemed to be valuable and important. For many of us, it has been the only little microscopic corner of the public platform we've been permitted. In a society that disparages anything that

Re: [marxmail] Did "Progressives" Stop a Possible Real Coup on Jan. 6?

I don't see any evidence for movement agency in shutting down the January Riot, if that's what you're asking. On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:19 PM wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 05:40 PM, Mark Lause wrote: > > But the Democrats would never do that. Had they called out the base into >

Re: [marxmail] Did "Progressives" Stop a Possible Real Coup on Jan. 6?

But the Democrats would never do that. Had they called out the base into the streets (remember the women's marches at the time of the inauguration?), there would have been no Trump tax fiddle, no multiple reactionary Federal judges, no open season for the reactionary backlash. Etc. On Wed, Jan

Re: [marxmail] The next two years? If you think you know, then you REALLY don't know!

If Trump keeps control of the GOP, the Democratic leadership will surely move to scoop up the Lincoln Project mugwumps and any availablee "moderates" like Romney. If the Democratic party generally opts to self-Nixonize with fiscal responsibility, law and order, and the Big Stick abroad, what

Re: [marxmail] The next two years? If you think you know, then you REALLY don't know!

This is the problem with something like Antifa that strives to be smudgy about its identity, its membership, its leadership, and its activities. Put masks on that. Then slather it all with layers of social media and a corporate news industry that really doesn't care. Solidarity! Mark L.

Re: [marxmail] Trump Supporters' Main Problem Was Never The Economy | HuffPost

I've already seen a few stories that tend to confirm the suspicion that the Trump campaign bankrolled the January 6 event. On the general question of the popular base of Trump . . . . First, look at an map of the election results at the county level. There are many states where the cities

Re: [marxmail] From The New Yorker: Civil Wars

Thanks. She was always better than Wm. H. Another spiritualist. On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 7:26 PM Susan Redge MD via groups.io wrote: > Civil Wars > > https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/25/the-pre-civil-war-fight-against-white-supremacy > > Get the writers you love, plus your favorite

Re: [marxmail] J. Hoberman on Jayden X’s Shooting and Storming of the US Capitol in Washington DC - Artforum International

The tape he and his coworker made of their activities in the assault on the Capitol raises serious questions about his actually being much of a "progressive." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#5588):

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

The Proud Boys, Boogaloos, and whatever this or that grouplet on the right calls itself, they're being no more innovative than they were in their earlier incarnations. Throwing QAnon into this reflects the tendency to amalgamate and exaggerate threats from that quarter, and to see the Capitol

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

I have no more problems with gun clubs per se than bowling leagues or masonic lodges. However, check the subject line. If you don't have mass, independent, self-growing social movements organically growing out of the experience of the masses of people, you'll have nothing to defend . . . . We

Re: [marxmail] Polynesians steering by the stars met Native Americans long before Europeans arrived

On the genetic side of this . . . . https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2015/07/22/discovery-change-view-human-history/ And an old BBC documentary touching on this . . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6IrMjfbh6E -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to

Re: [marxmail] Trump and Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch

This was Duck Dynasty trying its hand at biker street theatre, though it's serving as a Rorschach test. In social terms, the coastal commentators say its that work of the incomprehensible unwashed masses from the darkest interior of America, and the bourgeoisie with some delusions of noblesse

Re: [marxmail] coups and putsches

Before Louis and I arrived in Houston, the KKK was in the habit of ending their monthly meetings north of the city by machine gunning the home of Fred and Laura Brode. The sandbags were still there. They bombed our bookstore. It was still selling books and pamphlets that were damage by the

Re: [marxmail] next steps?

"The Left" in terms of the organized groups to the left of the Democratic party has been content to wither on the vine of its desiccated potential. What is needed now would have required some preliminary work earlier. New radicalizing forces have been generally left to reinvent the wheel. On

Re: [marxmail] Assistance Finding Book

I, too, was going to suggest _Letters to Americans_ sounded like the book Fred was seeking. Good suggestions all. There's new titles eerie so often that contribute to an understanding of the context, particularly the First International, which had a serious, though relatively short-lived impact

Re: [marxmail] Protection of minority opinions under socialism

You've answered your own questions at the end. You can't have socialism without such protections. If they're not discussed, it's because they're generally taken for granted. If we mean the nuts and bolts of how these things will work out, it's clearly a matter for the people who are actually

Re: [marxmail] Republican Party has merged with the KKK ; GOP is fascist ( especially with Trump )

The extent to which this discussion implicitly prettifies what has been normal in the American experience is mind-numbing. The KKK has been much larger and vastly more influential, as have been other reactionary groups. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to

Re: [marxmail] Trump goes off the rails: Dangers (and possibilities) ahead

Trump pere is done as a candidate, but I suspect he'll recast himself as a Celebrity Statesman with free air time when he wants it. The most likely outcome is that Biden--like Obama and Clinton before him--will disappoint enough of his base to lose seats in 2022. Clinton's failings created a

Re: [marxmail] Merry Christmas

In the spirit of Kautsky, *Freundliche Weihnachte!* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4813): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/4813 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/79219032/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU

Re: [marxmail] The Forgotten Radicalism of Jesus Christ

A brief thought on this . . . . When people of my generation told the lords of our profession that we wanted to go into labor history, we were regularly told that what we proposed could not be done. History, the old-timers would say, required two written sources to prove that something had

Re: [marxmail] The Forgotten Radicalism of Jesus Christ

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Re: [marxmail] On Frank Kameny

Academic disciplines developed and thrive to the extent that they can do things for the people who finance them. The individuals who established some intellectual legitimacy for them did not necessarily choose that role, and those individuals who work within them--are no more responsible than an

Re: [marxmail] An interview with David Roediger

David is spot on, as usual. Historically, the middle class meant people who are the working self-employed, such as small farmers or shopkeepers. Sociology was invented to change the definition to mean something else--income, status, etc. Just as "political science" was invented to redefine

Re: [marxmail] The Puritans Are Alright - Los Angeles Review of Books

John Brown was a Puritan only in the sense of its distillation through the Great Awakening of the early eighteenth century and, more importantly, the "Second Great Awakening" of the early nineteenth. Perry Miller focused heavily on the former, but the second really kicked open the possibilities

Re: [marxmail] Adolph Reed, Jr and Black Lives Matter

I think the internal criticisms of the dynamic of BLM ring true, though I am never sure just how "grass roots" the "grass roots chapters" themselves are, at least in this neck of the woods. The protests weren't even announced beforehand here, much less actually built. This kept it from becoming

Re: [marxmail] After students propose racial justice club, some professors deem it divisive

Universities and colleges have established general standards that extend their corporate models to the management of student organizations. You have to buy space to set up a lit table if you're not a student organization and, if you try to become a student organization (which does get you a

Re: [marxmail] Comment on my Paul Robeson article

Nikki Taylor did a very good biography of Clark. He was certainly not unique. I found several other African American socialists associated with the party in those years. There were also black members of the International in America, particularly through the Cuban section in NYC. James McCune

Re: [marxmail] John Brown and the American Indian | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

The relations of John Brown and his band with the native peoples is a touchstone of my _Race and Radicalism in the Union Army_. Socialists and radical land reformers such as Augustus Wattles, Richard J. Hinton. and William A. Phillips became key figures in the effort to recruit Indian soldiers to

Re: [marxmail] Ferris State puts a professor on leave for statements on COVID-19, race

How do you conjure any animus on my part to anyone on this list? People who actually read what I've written know that my point was quite the contrary. This leaves me to tentatively conclude that you are far too important to read anything I actually have too say. And I clearly don"t have the

Re: [marxmail] Ferris State puts a professor on leave for statements on COVID-19, race

The point is that when you talk about drawing a line, neither you nor I nor anyone like us going to draw it. And we shouldn't trust the hand with the Sharpie. On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 9:34 AM wrote: > Language isn't only semantic and syntactic--a vehicle for conveying > meanings. it also has a

Re: [marxmail] Ferris State puts a professor on leave for statements on COVID-19, race

Academic freedom is either there or it isn't. And if it isn't, who decides where to draw the line? Not the Holy Ghost descending from the ether into the materialist sphere. And sure as hell nobody here, I guarantee. Educational institutions do tend to be extremely arrogant and delusional

Re: [marxmail] Election 2020: a Democratic Mandate or a Vote Against Trump? - CounterPunch.org

It's worth noting that the reported vote was exceptionally high. The estimated U.S. population of 18 and over at this point (before we have census results) runs to about 228 million. Participation in the election is currently estimated at around 159.8 million, over 20 million more than in the

Re: [marxmail] Abolition from Below: On the Underground Railroad to México - Los Angeles Review of Books

The role of residents of the Indian Territory in shaping these routes of escaping slavery merits more consideration. Not only did they have a history of acting against slavery themselves but some of them chose to escape the authority of the U.S. entirely and establish communities along the border

Re: [marxmail] Worst coup ever | Red Flag

Let's break that down. Let's say you had 150 million voting in the last election, of whom 70 million voted for Trump. The people who are reported as drinking the Trump kool aid is usually reported as some frighteningly high percentage of self-described Republicans. They rarely add that the

Re: [marxmail] Worst coup ever | Red Flag

The 70 million Trump voters do not constitute a fascist movement. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#3839): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/3839 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/78457405/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES

Re: [marxmail] Was Reagan a Precursor to Trump? A New Documentary Says Yes

People should not get too lost in the treats on this. Party politics has never meant what partisans claimed (and claim) it does. Trump's father was associated with the Democratic party. None of this had to do with ideology or values but with rooting his success in the importance of the party

Re: [marxmail] Biden hopes to avoid divisive Trump investigations, preferring unity

Btw, Keith Olbermann reposted his appeal to Obama to act on the criminal activities of Dubya. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM-6MaToThE It's worth the reviewing, though it was entirely ignored. Most of the Biden supporters argued that his election was necessary to thwart the dangerous

Re: [marxmail] Fossils Waiting to Be: On Stoicism in the Anthropocene - Los Angeles Review of Books

I think a better term might be apprentice fossils. On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:47 AM Louis Proyect wrote: > Any journey in deep time will be leisurely, and in *Footprints *we > accompany Farrier on an unhurried (and presumably carbon intensive) > itinerary from his classroom in Edinburgh to the

Re: [marxmail] GOP Leaders In 4 States Quash Dubious Trump Scheme On Electors | HuffPost

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Re: [marxmail] On the Party Question: The Ballot Line, Third-Partyism, and a Fighting DSA - Emerge

The DSA over most of the country has won the numbers it has because of its open embrace of being "Socialists" and not its flabby-dub Democratic hokey-pokey. I don't think that would draw anyone to join it. This defines the DSA as a large cluster of younger people interested in socialism and some

Re: [marxmail] The Next Donald Trump (per Sunkara)

These predictable and predicted problems come out of the essential failure of the Democratic Party to do the most minimal functions of an opposition party. Through the campaign, I kept asking Biden supporters to respond on this and got nothing of substance in response. The DP is bankrupt. To

Re: [marxmail] Green vote?

I don't think anyone should draw general conclusions about the potential for third party politics in the U.S. based on the Green Party, which regrettably allowed state and local autonomy to decide not to build a party. the point here, though, is not an electoral presence so much as the need for a

Re: [marxmail] Green vote?

Sorry for the bad editing. shouldn't try to do this on the phone. :-) On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:49 PM Mark Lause wrote: > The possibilities for doing something with the existing Green party may > vary with the nature of the local and state organization, but any national >

Re: [marxmail] Green vote?

The possibilities for doing something with the existing Green party may vary with the nature of the local and state organization, but any national strategy for reorganization is going to require national action on some very basic measures. I would not favor any blanket exclusion of anyone voting

Re: [marxmail] What now?

No Trump coup. No civil war. This never a possibility. It was just a Republican fantasy and a Democratic scare tactic. Neither worked as intended. Trump will most likely escape justice for his crimes. But he will likely have assets stripped. On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 7:05 PM Gary MacLennan

Re: [marxmail] » How Could 70 Million Still Have Voted for Trump?

There are black voters who support Trump. Those I know among the men are definitely part of a kind of gender backlash. But I'd say that, at the very least, Trump voters are "racially oblivious." Rural and small town (and many other) white voters aren't concerned about the issue. And, for one

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