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Just remember to balance you layer stack thicknesses to prevent the board
from being warped.
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From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] help with a stack ??
Robison Michael
This relates to Brian Guralnick Stephen Smith (postings from 23.Oct.2001):
I had this problem, too, about one year ago. And also no one (including
swiss Protel support) had a solution.
But I found out myself: If you open the print preview without the target PCB
open, you are not allowed to
Does anyone know of a way to make the letter allocation to drill size
consistent?
I generate my Gerber files and use the Gerber data to create dxf files for
Autocad. So far so good. Should I then need to update the board and
re-generate the Gerber files I often find that the letter to
hello,
i've been having a bit of trouble recently with my
readme file that i send in with the board stackup.
i get the names by right-clicking on the pcb and
selecting options/layer stack manager. but the
board shop has complained some times that it doesn't
match my gerbers, and i have to
At 03:05 PM 2/22/2002 +1200, Steve Baldwin wrote:
If anyone is interested, it is my belief that an off-line inverting
utility could be created
Although not the Holy Grail, I think an off-line utility would be a
sufficiently useful tool for the majority of my applications. I still use
Ian's
At 02:26 PM 2/21/2002 -0800, Mike Ingle wrote:
Are you really running w95? I suppose you may have noticed that w2k is the
currently preferred base OS for PROTEL. Although who can take a few days
off to reintall eberything and get it working.
It seems to be getting difficult to buy Windows
At 08:18 AM 2/22/2002 -0600, Bob Bauer wrote:
I hear ya! The same problem with graphic symbols. Is there a cure?
The cure will leave you in better condition than before you got the disease.
The cure is to have Protel print the drill size on the drawing. If one
stops and thinks about what a
I am a creature of habit. Since tape-up days, I have always created a fab
dwg. It is a handy reference dwg for in-house use to double-check hole and
board size. Our fab dwgs include the dimensions and hole count table, the
layer stack and assignment, and any special notes that differ from our
On this subject, (I appologise if this has already been mentioned as I've
not followed the thread too well)
Another thing to add to the protel wish list should be mechanical layer
pairs.
It should be possible for each mechanical (M) layer to pair it with another.
Such that that when a
mr. lomax said:
That's the problem with introducing new features, the implementation is not
always complete. It's only recently that Protel gave us the option of
naming layers. These names do not readily translate to file extensions with
three letter names, so Protel did not modify the plot
It seems to be getting difficult to buy Windows 2000. Computer Gate only
sells it with hardrive/motherboard/CPU orders, but a search did turn up
active auctions.
My favorite vendor, PC Connection, has it in stock.
Full Version:
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Brian Guralnick
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Comedy clips:
ftp://ftp.point-lab.com/quartus/Public/MP3/Simpsons-FatFingers.mp3 -53K
I never said that Mr Scarborough had 2 neurons, so maybe I'll find #2 in
the gerber setup as directed.
Thanks for the help!! I really do appreciate it.
Regards - Evan
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL
I've never gotten this to work. On the Tools | Preferences, color/gray tab,
clicking in the gray column pops up a panel (with 64 squares, but only 4
shades!), but clicking in the color column does nothing. I tried just now,
opening the PCB first, then the Preview, but still couldn't change
Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
i've shuffled my power/gnd planes around, so is it
possible that i have internal plane 3 right below toplayer,
and then internal plane 1 below that, etc, due to me
shifting things around? or does the gerber generator
take the uppermost one it sees and call it
Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
hello,
i've been having a bit of trouble recently with my
readme file that i send in with the board stackup.
i get the names by right-clicking on the pcb and
selecting options/layer stack manager. but the
board shop has complained some times that it doesn't
I heard from a friend that Protel won't work on Windows XP. I'm setting up
a new computer, and I'd like to run Windows XP if I can.
Will it work?
Bob Puckette
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tripod Data Systems
345 SW Avery Ave
Corvallis OR, 97333
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At 11:33 AM 2/22/2002 -0600, Bob Bauer wrote:
I am a creature of habit. Since tape-up days, I have always created a fab
dwg. It is a handy reference dwg for in-house use to double-check hole and
board size. Our fab dwgs include the dimensions and hole count table, the
layer stack and assignment,
I have not yet really had a chance to push protel hard under XP, but
I have not had any problems yet (knock on wood). I have been running XP for
two months.
Ted
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From: Bob Puckette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:12 PM
To: Protel
works fine for me..
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From: Bob Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:11 pm
Subject: [PEDA] Protel and Windows XP
I heard from a friend that Protel won't work on Windows XP. I'm
setting up
a new computer, and I'd like to run Windows XP if
At 05:37 PM 2/22/2002 +, Jason Morgan wrote:
Another thing to add to the protel wish list should be mechanical layer
pairs.
Yes, It might be good also that one of the pair be explicitly associated
with either top or bottom, the other being the opposite.
Absolutely desirable; an example of
Do we assume XP Professional, or is anybody here running under XP Home?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 15:52
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel and Windows XP
works fine for me..
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I've been using Protel under Windows XP for roughly 8 months with no
problems to report. I started using Protel with Win XP RC1 back in May or
June of 2001. In my experience, Protel is at least as stable under XP as it
was under Windows 2000. That includes Spice, PCB, Schematic, CAM, and
Yes I have seen this occur and believe it was due too some imported stuff on
an DXF file. We now do a cross check with the drill report and the printed
drill table.
Martin R
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From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:28 PM
Want to try something funny?
Design the 24inch PCB in the PCB Lib editor. In the lib editor, you do not have a
size constraint.
Funny, isn't it?
Brian Guralnick
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At 01:33 PM 2/22/2002 -0500, Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
can you tell me this? on the internal planes 1 thru 4,
does this reference the ORIGINAL way the planes laid,
or the final way when the gerbers were generated? does
my question make sense?
I don't know, but it would not be hard to find
I heard from a friend that Protel won't work on Windows XP. I'm setting
up
a new computer, and I'd like to run Windows XP if I can.
There was a discussion on this list a while back about some part of Windows
XP help ceasing to work after Protel was run under Windows XP Home (not
Pro).
As I
sorry to go way OT but ...
when using any generic windows apps notably word and excel
is there any way to get windows to stop going to My Documents by
default?
some registry hack to get rid of My Documents as the default dumping
ground for most anything?
Dennis Saputelli
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Bob,
What command are you using to move the text/component?
If you use M C move component it is much faster than
using the left click and hold or M M move move command.
It is also possible to setup new hot keys for (M)ove
(T)ext so that there is less database to search.
You can setup
Dennis,
Me again, I have shortcuts in the My Documents folder to all
my area's that I have files. So it opens My Doc then I double
click the shortcut to the area I need to go to.
Regards,
Darren Moore
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From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
not bad thanks
ds
Darren Moore wrote:
Dennis,
Me again, I have shortcuts in the My Documents folder to all
my area's that I have files. So it opens My Doc then I double
click the shortcut to the area I need to go to.
Regards,
Darren Moore
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On 08:45 AM 22/02/2002 -0500, Watnoski, Michael said:
Greetings,
A posible solution, though not a fix, if you are using dual
monitors, could one display the PCB in normal mode and the other display the
print preview in mirrored mode? This would require constant refreshing of
the
On 07:01 PM 22/02/2002 +1100, Geoff Harland said:
Bottom line: if Altium have visions of providing an inverting feature in
Phoenix, then this should be provided in a form which inverts the *entire*
PCB; there should not be an additional option (or alternative
implementation) of inverting *just*
On 09:19 AM 22/02/2002 -0500, Mike Reagan said:
So my questions is why do you prefer to shove
watermellons in your nose when apples are less painless.
Mike,
I am trying to work out the double negatives here :-)
Ian
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i don't have trouble looking through the top
Dennis Saputelli
Ian Wilson wrote:
On 08:45 AM 22/02/2002 -0500, Watnoski, Michael said:
Greetings,
A posible solution, though not a fix, if you are using dual
monitors, could one display the PCB in normal mode and the other display
Hi folks,
I am having an ongoing problem trying to send a Protel99SE schematic
document out to an HP Draftmaster One plotter. Since the drivers are not
inherent in XP, it requires one to utilize a third-party driver and it
comes from winline.com I have added the plotter through adding a
Ian or others,
just for reference I have followed this thread and it seems that
most people would be satisfied with a bottom layer viewer. It is funny that
Protel has bought Accel because Accel EDA (PCAD?) had/has an invertible
viewer back in version 14. I used to use the viewer function
Hi guys, anybody still out there late on a Friday night (yeah I know Ian,
Geoff and other Aussies should still be around)?
Protel 99SE SP6
I have four small polygons which I cannot select, repour, delete or
perform any actions on. I want to move them and the associated traces
connecting
Re doing it w/ Gerbers... I haven't watched this whole (hole ;) ) thread,
so I hope I am not being redundant. Anyway, You can quickly mirror the
bottom layer in CAMTASTIC. I have never bothered to print from CAMTASTIC,
but it looks to be capable. I will be printing the mirrored layer
You never mention exactly what the problem is. You say it starts to plot
but it's far from useable. What does this mean?
Anyway, I am using WinLine with Protel99SE and the older 16-bit versions on
Windows 2000 Pro. I had a problem with Winline working with Protel99SE when
SE first came out.
On 07:41 PM 22/02/2002 -0800, Brad Velander said:
Darren,
thank you very much, I was racking my brain trying to remember the
cures which had previously been discussed, to no avail. Now they seem to
have disappeared but I know they are just lurking somewhere where they are
not readily
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