Re: [Sursound] AmbiSym2011 paper on large-scale Ambisonic systems...

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Chapman
I just had the pleasure to present at AmbiSym2011 in Lexington via Skype, which was weird but fun. In case anyone's interested, the paper and slides are available at http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/linux_audio/ambisonic_symposium_2011/ Jörn Nettingsmeier Jörn, Nice ... ! If I

[Sursound] Jacktrip (bandwidth)

2011-06-08 Thread Michael Chapman
I can't find any indicative performance (bandwidth) figures for Jacktrip ... so ask for the experience of others. On a standard CAT-5 cable between two adjacent machines I can get four (mono) channels at 48 KHz, but trying to set channels 4 just results in a (very silent) failure to connect.

Re: [Sursound] Portable ambisonics setup, or how do you mount speakers on tubes?

2011-06-30 Thread Michael Chapman
I'm designing a mid-size (8 to 12-ch) ambisonics setup, using small active near-field studio monitors such as Fostex PM04, Focal CMS40, BM-5A...(the exact model will depend on the funding I'll get for this project). Mmm, I was involved in sourcing gear for a twelve speaker project. I am hoping

Re: [Sursound] Portable ambisonics setup, or how do you mount speakers on tubes?

2011-07-01 Thread Michael Chapman
you mount speakers on tubes? On 30/06/2011 20:42, Michael Chapman wrote: We just made 'bird tables' to put the top speakers on. About 200 mm of broom handle to slot into the lighting stand, and a approx 15-20 mm thick horizontal shelf (the right sized drill and the two glue together

Re: [Sursound] Portable ambisonics setup, or how do you mount speakers on tubes?

2011-07-06 Thread Michael Chapman
Frank wrote: About the lightning stands, this Sunday I also found some garden tent (or pergolas) poles that could be used instead of the Manfrottos, they are much cheaper and have a detachable (quite heavy) base. Some fabrication involved anyway, as many said before. I, and I'm sure others,

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Chapman
Am I missing something? You send electrons and the speaker cone moves out, o.k. It comes back by itself. But surely you want it to move _in_ as well? How do you do that without positrons. (I think that's right, most things in surround sound seem counter-intuitive: So I doubt if it is positrons

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread Michael Chapman
On 2011-07-29, Sarang S. Dalal wrote: I've been lurking for only a day, but Sampo's note gives me the courage to go ahead and ask the first question I was hoping this group might help me answer. And good it was. No? ;) My question then is, how to do ambisonic even cheaper. I sort of

Re: [Sursound] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Chapman
DID YOU KNOW ... LinkedIn ... helps you control your public image How true ;-( Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] [ot] another patent

2011-09-20 Thread Michael Chapman
The modern day pharmaceutical industry is perhaps the one exception to the rule that patents are bad to humanity. Why is that? Well, because it's remained the most sacred, shielded, unquestioned, and especially for the longest time. In part because of the huge and quite possibly unfounded

Re: [Sursound] AES Convention Ambio Demo

2011-09-20 Thread Michael Chapman
If any of you are coming to the AES Convention this October, you are welcome to come�for a demonstration of Ambiophonics and Panambio in nearby New Jersey. Every success for the demo's. There are�seven different Ambiophonic-like systems�you can try out here including component, PC, Apple,

Re: [Sursound] [ot] another patent

2011-09-20 Thread Michael Chapman
Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2011-09-19, Stefan Schreiber wrote: What she does *not* know is that the oldest, simplest and cheapest NSAID medication works even better. I mean, today, now that I ran out of my prescribed NSAID, I again took a gram's worth of aspirin (acetosalicylic acid). As

Re: [Sursound] [ot] another patent

2011-09-21 Thread Michael Chapman
Richard Dobson wrote: On 20/09/2011 22:24, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Interesting choice of words. You say agree, I would say recognise. Do they put it to a vote? My thoughts (which you appear to equate with things) are my own, and if I choose to share them with anyone else that is my choice,

Re: [Sursound] [ot] another patent

2011-09-22 Thread Michael Chapman
Sorry, ... but: No. It would be useful if people replied to the points posted, and not to what they wished people (seeming, regarded as opponents;-( had said. Michael On 22/09/2011 15:32, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:31:40PM +0100, Richard Dobson wrote: On 22/09/2011

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Michael Chapman
Le 11-10-07 17:40, Sampo Syreeni a �crit : On 2011-09-30, Daniel Courville wrote: I think we should try to establish some sort of official database of what SoundField (and TetraMic) models are polarity inverting at the B-Format output. In that case we first need a datal model. Based on what

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-09 Thread Michael Chapman
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 08:24:02AM -, Michael Chapman wrote: for TetraProc: -it allows inversion, or not, at the user's choice (it actually allows it on a per channel (per mic capsule) basis -it also allows ... to complicate your task ... 'Endfire' Not really exact. Tetraproc allows

Re: [Sursound] Great responses to my post--thanks!

2011-12-10 Thread Michael Chapman
Hello Eric, Very interesting post. I was a bit intrigued by what you had to say regarding binaural recordings and the lack of sense of space. Reproducing a sense of space is something that has interested me a lot as a sound artist and I've been experimenting with building different types of

Re: [Sursound] Patents, Serendipity, and Questions

2011-12-21 Thread Michael Chapman
Questions follow: Not answers, but some thoughts that might help, pending any answers ... 1. Is there any preferred method of calibrating speakers used in an Ambisonic setup? I'd look at Jörn Nettingsmeier's paper, and particularly his slides (both PDFs) on digital room correction for

Re: [Sursound] Patents, Serendipity, and Questions

2011-12-22 Thread Michael Chapman
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:51:45PM -0800, Eric Carmichel wrote: 3. I have seen discussion and articles regarding Ambisonics and shelving filters. Any recommendations as to best filter settings based on speaker-to-listener radius? Very few AMB decoders provide both dual-band operation

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic-Binaural piece using Brahma mic (was Re: Great responses to my post--thanks!)

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Chapman
Hi Umashankar (and anyone interested), Following up on this thread, I just uploaded a soundscape piece I made using the Brahma mic, presented here in a binaural version. The recordings were converted from A to B-Format with Tetraproc (thanks to Fons for the calibrated preset), ambisonic

Re: [Sursound] Linux help and difficult listening (uploaded wav files)

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Chapman
1) From what I’ve read thus far, I look forward to trying AmbDec. Chances are, however, I’ll create the requisite audio files using one platform (i.e. Linux) from B-formatted files, and then play them back using a PC-based DAW. The impetus for the PC-based DAW is because I’m using hardware

Re: [Sursound] Motivation for authors(Robert's off topic rant!)

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Chapman
Just turning things over in the back of my mind. Eric was pointing out that, without the peer review that goes with publication in a prestigious journal, a paper isn't taken seriously. as Robert points out, peer review offers at least some assurance that a paper does not contain 'junk

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19

2012-03-24 Thread Michael Chapman
operating sytem will probably be windows im afraid (I know I know) the same spec machine with exactly the same procesor , ram, hd etc costs nearly 4 times as much on a mac and linux will not run the software I wish to use Sorry, then, my comments must be limited . . . AFAIK (i'm at home, it

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Chapman
I understand that, which is why I made the snide remark about ticket sales. To place an microphone at audience level, one would have to empty enough seats around the mic position to make neighbors a non-issue. But revenues trump everything. Similarly, they could do a recording while doing

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Chapman
Unless of course they publish a file format for it Want a minimal and purposely highly (even overtly) extensible one? That I can design. In fact I've meant to do something like this from teenage up. :) Please do! A group of us proposed a CAF based file format at Graz (in 2009)

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Chapman
, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Michael Chapman s...@mchapman.com wrote: Unless of course they publish a file format for it Want a minimal and purposely highly (even overtly) extensible one? That I can design. In fact I've meant to do something like this from teenage up. :) Please do

Re: [Sursound] B-Format to Binaural

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Chapman
Hi All, thanks a lot for your replies. Harpex-B is quite expensive - I like to try Tetraproc, but I am not sure how to run it on my mac without Linux... Do you have an advice? There were instructions on ambisonia.com. (For installation, running is easy ...) Not sure if anyone has them

Re: [Sursound] microphone epiphany ?

2012-05-26 Thread Michael Chapman
I think I may be having a microphone epiphany or at least what smug boffins might call an intuitive understanding but please feel free to correct any errors in my thinking. In using a six capsule (or 3 capsule) microphone setup with 3 figure of eight pairs this gives you localisation

Re: [Sursound] The Sound of Vision (Mirage-sonics?)

2012-06-06 Thread Michael Chapman
Gregory, R.L., (1996) Is your green as green as mine? in The Sunday Times, Science section 8th September 1996 Dr Peter Lennox At least one can describe green-greener-greenest, or loud- louder-loudest, or high-pitch---higher-pitch--- ... but colour is really an odd one: You can only describe

[Sursound] Ambisonia : BitTorrent

2012-06-12 Thread Michael Chapman
I suspect that this was well considered when Ambisonia was moved to York, but I'll ask anyway : Does York have sufficient bandwidth (and is it willing to allow its use) for Ambisonia downloads to be just that : i.e. file downloads direct* from the server ? If not, I'll get the cold towels out,

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonia : BitTorrent

2012-06-12 Thread Michael Chapman
instructions about the box's firewall. I am quite used to tweaking firewalls on servers and on benchtop machines, but the box seems to have its own 'little tricks'. So thanks, but it's back to reading the manual, I fear ... Michael --On 12 June 2012 09:14 + Michael Chapman s...@mchapman.com

Re: [Sursound] VLC Ambisonic player module

2012-06-27 Thread Michael Chapman
On 06/27/2012 12:22 PM, Dave Malham wrote: Hi Folks, I remember a few years ago there was talk of getting Ambisonic playback going in VLC. Did that ever get anywhere? Or, indeed, Ambisonic playback for any cross-platform player? I once used mplayer to play back a video with a 3rd order

Re: [Sursound] Quicktime player ??

2012-06-28 Thread Michael Chapman
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:05:49 +0100 From: Dave Malham dave.mal...@york.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Sursound] VLC Ambisonic player module Hi there, Whilst MPlayer is an excellent piece of kit, it's not exactly suited to people with little or no computer literacy, so someone on a Windoze

Re: [Sursound] []OT] List of open source software for wavefield synthesis

2012-07-05 Thread Michael Chapman
Augustine Leudar augustineleu...@gmail.com wrote: [ ... ] anyone know of anything that works on windows ? That's just unkind Michael ;-) ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Chapman
Le param�tre d'usine est de 45� pour l'�l�vation Cube aussi bien dans Harpex que dans VVMIC It's a bit peripheral to the generality of this discussion, but I read the above as the default elevation for cube arrays in Harpex and VVMic is 45 degrees. It's rather counter-intuitive, but the

Re: [Sursound] 4 channel Nipper

2012-07-23 Thread Michael Chapman
Marc Lavallée m...@hacklava.net wrote : Here's the link to the scanned issue: http://books.google.ca/books?id=iVOwQhCJ2GgC The article on page 222 is worth reading; Will ambi-sound shatter the peace and quiet of the stereo market? Very interesting (and _sobering_) reading . . . ,

Re: [Sursound] What AV Linux distro to use with an old laptop - is it likely to be at all useful

2012-08-06 Thread Michael Chapman
[ . . . ] * Which distro(s) of Linux are most useful for surround sound (Ambisonic) work? And * Which (32-bit) distro of Linux is likely to be light enough for such an ancient laptop? Gerard Lardner I've always like Dyne (now apparently puredyne) and 'played' with it

Re: [Sursound] OT: Yorkshire's success in 2012 Olympics

2012-08-13 Thread Michael Chapman
The democratic republic of Yorkshire (=; hmmm has a certain ring to it. Not so sure about 'democratic' (a bit passè in the century of global empire?) : Everyone's som'at odd, Except thee and me, And I'm not so sure about thee. [Mis-remembered / misquoted, but ah well ... ] Michael

Re: [Sursound] re-inventing the wheel

2012-08-28 Thread Michael Chapman
Come on, don't knock them. They are very special : One third the size (voiceover) 33% smaller (video text) You can't judge these wonders by the antiquated laws of physics ... Michael And ... er ... using the subwoof does _not_ create all the horrible problems that twin cone loudspeakers (they

[Sursound] Ambdec 0.5.1 and Mac OSX

2012-09-01 Thread Michael Chapman
Just upgraded my version of Ambdec, Unless I missed something (it's 3 in the morning;-) there is no longer a Mac Makefile. I have got Ambdec running nicely (though do not have the facilities to check on a rig until next week ... so fingers crossed). In the source directrory, I : cp Makefile

Re: [Sursound] Ambdec 0.5.1 and Mac OSX

2012-09-01 Thread Michael Chapman
Sorry, this was on Mac OS X Version 10.5.2 (? 2008). Just upgraded my version of Ambdec, Unless I missed something (it's 3 in the morning;-) there is no longer a Mac Makefile. I have got Ambdec running nicely (though do not have the facilities to check on a rig until next week ... so

Re: [Sursound] Ambdec 0.5.1 and Mac OSX

2012-09-04 Thread Michael Chapman
Just upgraded my version of Ambdec, Unless I missed something (it's 3 in the morning;-) there is no longer a Mac Makefile. [ . . . ] I think the diff below resolves my previous issues (but with a concert next week I haven't had the courage to do a de-install re-install, just to check

Re: [Sursound] 3D Array

2012-09-26 Thread Michael Chapman
- Are identical speakers needed for each speaker of the array, or can I DIY it buy mixing and matching speakers from old hi/fi and found systems? Don't think anyone would recommend it ... but one has to be realistic. There are some good classical recordings on ambisonia.com A few of those

Re: [Sursound] Hybrid Hi-Fi (HyFi?), IRs, etc.

2012-10-03 Thread Michael Chapman
Greetings to All, I have been reviewing the literature on Auralization in attempts to create viable stimuli for research. Everybody here has been great. I do have another question/comment regarding loudspeaker placement. In nearly all Ambisonic setups, the listener's head lies on a line

Re: [Sursound] Hybrid Hi-Fi (HyFi?), IRs, etc.

2012-10-04 Thread Michael Chapman
Martin Leese wrote : The Ambi-5 Auditorium Decoder. I have a PDF of an Audio + Design leaflet which somebody sent me. If people want it I can place it on my Google Site for download. However, it just says: The Ambi-5 produces five loudspeaker feeds arranged as a regular pentagon with

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Chapman
Marc Lavallée wrote : This list is not the place to explain why, but I must also mention that I'm strictly non-Facebook. Amen ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Chapman
Eric Benjamin wrote : I don't understand what would be the benefit of a facebook group I certainly sympathize with all of those who have posted anti-facebook comments. That is why I maintain only a minimal facebook presence. But it does seem to me that there are some benefits. Like

Re: [Sursound] [OT] FB etc. (was: Re: Trans-Dimensional Portal)

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Chapman
Very much off topic is what follows. Just as a point of information, I think Hitler's election did not depend on fraud. I think he actually did have a lot of popular support at one point . Why is a complex question, but I believe he did, though of course he was not above fraud if fraud was

Re: [Sursound] [OT] FB etc.

2012-10-11 Thread Michael Chapman
' teachers could give an answer half-as-good as that ;-) Regards, Michael Michael Chapman wrote: Very much off topic is what follows. Just as a point of information, I think Hitler's election did not depend on fraud. I think he actually did have a lot of popular support at one point . Why

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-11 Thread Michael Chapman
Also http://www.mail-archive.com/sursound@music.vt.edu/ M. I think the *real* problem is that sursound does not have a publicly available archive. Etienne You are at http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.sursound/2709 ... and I always thought this list was 'private' ... ;-( (I

Re: [Sursound] [ot] new and interesting words

2012-10-13 Thread Michael Chapman
as an aside (and without looking it up) ossuary clearly means some official receptacle for bones, I would guess? Dr Peter Lennox What I find fascinating is words that are either absent, or if present rarely used but replaced by compounds. Things like 'foot-fingers' (French) and 'hand-shoes'

Re: [Sursound] [ot] new and interesting words

2012-10-13 Thread Michael Chapman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 01:56:04PM -, Michael Chapman wrote: What I find fascinating is words that are either absent, or if present rarely used but replaced by compounds. Things like 'foot-fingers' (French) and 'hand-shoes' (German) and by comparison 'sibling' (English) which is rare

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Michael Chapman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 05:26:57PM -, Michael Chapman wrote: Because the knobs on the amp's are at the other end of the room (or if not there, it would mean bending one's back). Modern PA gear is remote-controlled and monitored. And even if not, that's no excuse

Re: [Sursound] [ot] new and interesting words

2012-10-14 Thread Michael Chapman
Michael Chapman wrote: Think, I might excuse Finnish for not having a word for ossuary, though ! It has, although it possibly wasn't very clear in Sampo's original post. The word is luusto, as he wrote. Finnish, as many other languages can form an neverending multitude of words

Re: [Sursound] Patent application: Data structure for HOA

2012-10-24 Thread Michael Chapman
Hi, Just noticed this the other day: WO2012059385 DATA STRUCTURE FOR HIGHER ORDER AMBISONICS AUDIO DATA http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2012059385 I haven't read all the 75 pages, mostly looking at the pictures :-) Who is/are the applicant(s) ? But it looks

Re: [Sursound] Patent application: Data structure for HOA

2012-10-24 Thread Michael Chapman
Hi On 24 October 2012 09:37, Michael Chapman s...@mchapman.com wrote: Hi, Just noticed this the other day: WO2012059385 DATA STRUCTURE FOR HIGHER ORDER AMBISONICS AUDIO DATA Who is/are the applicant(s) ? Well it's Thomson and the inventors include people like Johann-Markus Batke

Re: [Sursound] Patent application: Data structure for HOA

2012-10-24 Thread Michael Chapman
The B-Format (based on the extensible ^iff/wav' structure) with its *.amb file format realisation as described as of 30 March 2009 for example in Martin Leese, File Format for B-Format , http://www. ambisonia.com/Members/etienne/Members/mleese/file-format-for-b-format, is the most

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic 'File' Formats

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Chapman
the key URLs ? Technicolor ... started this round. Anymore ? Michael On 30 October 2012 09:40, Michael Chapman s...@mchapman.com wrote: The thing that is really annoying, really frustrating, is that the community that I am trying to serve (which includes me) keeps shooting itself

Re: [Sursound] Vestibular response, HRTF database, and more

2012-11-03 Thread Michael Chapman
Eric, A bit wide of your topic ... if not indeed off topic. If you lie a young healthy person (i.e. 'normal' skin elasticity) on their back and take a copy of their face (a mask). If you place this on your desk (paperweight-like) it may draw comments, but not about it being unnatural. Now

Re: [Sursound] Upgrading a voice recorder with a hex editor - TEAC VR-20 to Tascam DR-08 audio recorder

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Chapman
I no longer remember my sursound password. how do I get it fixed? umashankar It's emailed to you once a month. If you still have: from: mailman-ow...@music.vt.edu date: Nov 1, 2012 subject: music.vt.edu mailing list memberships reminder It is in there. If not ... hope one of the admin's picks

Re: [Sursound] Quietest place on Earth revisited

2012-11-24 Thread Michael Chapman
Those outside the UK may have missed that the BBC has just paid out about a quarter of a million USD to someone they wrongly named as a paedophile. For the sake of accuracy, I suppose that should be implied was not named as, as the naming was done on Eric's aliens' Internet ... M

Re: [Sursound] Beamforming with HOA

2012-12-25 Thread Michael Chapman
Hi, all I think there are somebody have worked about beamforming of spherical array. Now I want to design the beampattern steering to certain direction and get the signal from that direction (Sptial filtering). I get the 32 channels signal p from Eigenmic. Get the Pnm of different orders

Re: [Sursound] Beamforming with HOA

2012-12-26 Thread Michael Chapman
Thanks a lot. I apology for not telling the status of the first order. It is normal. It has spatial filter effect but not very obvious. Also, The value of spherical harmonics by my script is the same as the one computed by the function of

Re: [Sursound] Array for sound field recording and extend the sound image

2013-01-06 Thread Michael Chapman
Hello, all [ ... ] The W component equals to the mean of signals from four mics. Then I decoded them to get the feeding signal for four loudspeakers, and used HRTFs to get the left and right signal for headphone. 1. Furthermore, the experiment is made that a person was walking

Re: [Sursound] A proposal for an Ambisonics based 3D audio codec, MPEG/ITU style...

2013-01-06 Thread Michael Chapman
France Telecom) have a commercial interest in ambisonics then we have an ally. Michael Stefan Schreiber wrote: Michael Chapman wrote: The current situation at MPEG: http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/studygroups/com16/video/Pages/jctvc.aspx Next meetings: * Geneva, Switzerland, October 2013

Re: [Sursound] Array for sound field recording and extend the sound image

2013-01-08 Thread Michael Chapman
Thanks very much. You are so kind. I will have a try as your suggestion. Best regards, Rilin Chen Do let us know with what results ! These type of problems are usually a

Re: [Sursound] DTS Headphone:X

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Chapman
Peter Lennox wrote: ... beyond 3D sound - my goodness! Just how many dimensions? - this is going to upset the theoretical physicists. New Dimensions for Ambisonics https://secure.aes.org/forum/pubs/conventions/?elib=14608 Shameless plug ... (not least for hyperspherical harmonics ... ;-) ,

Re: [Sursound] DTS Headphone:X

2013-01-10 Thread Michael Chapman
Peter Lennox wrote: ... beyond 3D sound - my goodness! Just how many dimensions? - this is going to upset the theoretical physicists. New Dimensions for Ambisonics https://secure.aes.org/forum/pubs/conventions/?elib=14608 Shameless plug ... (not least for hyperspherical harmonics ... ;-) ,

Re: [Sursound] Broadcasting b-format over 802.11g to Ambisonic speaker system

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Chapman
Anyway if anyone knows of a wireless cable system out there that is high quality and works over distances of up to 400m (in places where there is no internet) please let me know ! You can (or could) get little boxes that plugged ino power points (as in 220v sockets) that each had an

Re: [Sursound] Broadcasting b-format - again

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Chapman
I have implemented a similar thing and had phase-locked audio coming out of ~20 iPod touches using one enterprise-grade access point. At Xmas, with multiple iPhone users all playing music on 'loudspeakers' at the same time ... whether one couldn't harness them all and play surround sound ...

Re: [Sursound] Broadcasting b-format over 802.11g to Ambisonic speaker system

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Chapman
Ross Bencina wrote: On 27/01/2013 6:16 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: You just then need a master signal to: -synchronise -adjust volume -select track - ... ? If you're outdoors then you can use GPS time for synchronization. In which case you can just program everything to start at a certain

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Michael Chapman
Interesting - so I wasn't the only one who spotted the market niche for this sort of thing, wished I'd gotten on with my design :-( Still a market(?) for one with a low channel count and which can be used in groups with (?)GPS sync between them ... ... Go modular ... Michael

[Sursound] Syncing modular playback devices

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Chapman
Maybe DCF77 or mains AC (50/60Hz) is more reliable: http://m.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/13/gps-jammers-uk-roads-risks Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] [allowed] Re: Gran Sasso - first impressions

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Chapman
Here's a suggestion: a place that is publicly-accessible, but is under threat ... Also look at http://www.subbrit.org.uk/ Our members study and investigate man-made and man-used underground places — from mines to railway tunnels, military defences to nuclear bunkers and everything in between. I

Re: [Sursound] Sound Field Microphone

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Chapman
Good Morning Everyone, I'm interesting to buy a Sound Field Microphone but I don't have any experience in this field. Could you recommend me some models or brands according to your experience? There are many on here more expert than I. But to get the ball rolling, I think you are limited

Re: [Sursound] Any experience with dome acoustics?

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Chapman
Greetings, Does anyone on the list have prior experience installing ambi-based 3D sound into 'dome' shaped replay environments? I'd try looking at Graz* publications. It won't help me, but may help other responders: What is ear height ? I.e. are the listeners at ground level? Standing or

[Sursound] Smart speakers

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Chapman
Sonos Soundbar aims to ease pain of setting up home theatre sound systems Co-founder Tom Cullen talks smart speakers ... http://m.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/feb/18/sonos-soundbar-home-theatre-system I searched the article for an interesting quote ... but it is mostly froth ;- M

Re: [Sursound] Bi-Amping the B-format

2013-02-21 Thread Michael Chapman
The system is comprised of 16 channels. The advantage of 16 (or less) channels is that I don’t have to use a dedicated Word Clock to sync my MOTU FireWire interfaces. I’m fond of these interfaces, and two of them can sync-up via the FireWire link without complication. i don't know which

Re: [Sursound] A Thanks... And Another Post

2013-02-22 Thread Michael Chapman
Jörn brought into the discussion not only filter type and slope, but the choice of audio interfaces. I have first-generation MOTU 896HD units. Although there are two FireWire ports on each unit's backside, MOTU states that the only two units can be synchronized using a FireWire (daisy chain

Re: [Sursound] the power of doppler shift illusion

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Chapman
Semiotic frameworks such as that of Charles Peirce indicate that references (or signs) work in different ways. For example, mono reverb acts as an icon (that is, it is similar to) the experience of large spaces. Whereas the recording of hair clippers acts as an index of close proximity

Re: [Sursound] Looking for a very, very old thread - mics pointing inwards?

2013-03-01 Thread Michael Chapman
Hi All I have been spending some time looking for a thread that I think we had ages ago about a surround sound microphone setup, in which the microphones would not be pointing outwards from a point, but inwards. Is there anyone who would remember that thread? I only found three posts of

Re: [Sursound] 3/7/2013 6:15:15 AM

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Chapman
Better solution is to moderate new subscribers, low chance of long term members suddenly turning into spammers. Depends what OS they use ;-(( Michael But, despite that the original idea is a good one ...) ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] Multichannel audio in Museums

2013-03-19 Thread Michael Chapman
Hello all, I am looking for examples of permanent multichannel/surround sound audio installations in museums. Does anyone know of any examples. I am interested in any that have at least 4 channels and not a stereo file diffused over 4 speakers etc. An anecdote that might mean 'there isn't

Re: [Sursound] Surround formats and lossy compression

2013-04-07 Thread Michael Chapman
Eric (C), 1) In summary, my reasons for not recommending MP3s is that they are already “psychoacoustically tainted” and not the equivalent to actual stimuli even if perceived by normal-hearing listeners as equivalent. Frequency response isn’t the culprit. And with today’s technology, there’s

Re: [Sursound] Making a standalone 8ch player

2013-05-23 Thread Michael Chapman
Hello all, I want to start making a standalone 8 channel player (maybe more) - something that can be used in museums, festivals etc for sound installations that can just be turned on and will instantly start looping a multichannel composition on an sd card. At the moment I am using rather

Re: [Sursound] Nevaton microphones

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Chapman
Hello, anyone tried these multichannel mic? http://nevatonmics.com/mics_multichannel.php I wonder what the quad configuration is. Looking at the PDF ...it _looks_ like two 'figure of eights' mounted in the horizontal plane. I say 'figure of eights' but with four outputs, that is

Re: [Sursound] Nevaton microphones

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Chapman
Eric Benjamin à écrit: The lack of a vertical component is an interesting conundrum. I always insist on recording 'Z', and then almost never end up using it... Still ... seems a pity to have _four_ capsules and no 'Z' ... Michael ___ Sursound

Re: [Sursound] Nevaton microphones

2013-06-02 Thread Michael Chapman
At 19:55 1/6/2013, Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2013-06-01, David Pickett wrote: What I take this to mean is that if one is using WXY (derived from A-format) for horizontal only playback, W will contain unwanted vertical information that should be discarded. Correct for W, but also for X and Y.

Re: [Sursound] Nevaton microphones

2013-06-02 Thread Michael Chapman
David Pickett wrote: Perhaps I was not clear. Take 2: It seems to me that Sampo claimed that the omni from a double capsule mic is not the same as the W signal obtained by processing the ouputs of the four mics in the A-format tetrahedral array, and I would agree. However, the former

Re: [Sursound] a query

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Chapman
Interesting - I found the letter through the Uni's electronic journals access. Peter used both ambisonic and ambiphonic ( _not_ Ambiophonic !) in that letter. However, I was then able to go back to his letter in the Feb 8 1973 of that Journal and found that that one also contained

Re: [Sursound] a query

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Chapman
Interesting - I found the letter through the Uni's electronic journals access. Peter used both ambisonic and ambiphonic ( _not_ Ambiophonic !) in that letter. However, I was then able to go back to his letter in the Feb 8 1973 of that Journal and found that that one also contained

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics - Decoding 16 channels in DAW

2013-07-03 Thread Michael Chapman
Dear Members of Sursound, i am using the VVMicVst Plugin in Reaper for mixing and decoding my B-Format recordings. The plugin is limited to an output of 8 channels. For a new sound installation, I would like to decode to 16 channels (two circles of 8 speakers stacked). I know that I could

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics - Decoding 16 channels in DAW

2013-07-03 Thread Michael Chapman
...i will look at ambdec but it does seem to need a lot of routing using jack. Sixteen speakers need a lot of routing whatever you use ... said not to be unfriendly, just to emphasise I'm not sure I understand ;-) If you are worried about repeatedly having to connect everything, then IIRC

Re: [Sursound] A higher standard of standardness

2013-07-05 Thread Michael Chapman
To make a name for learning, When other roads are barred, Take something really easy, And make it really hard. For the removal of doubt ... I am on your side Robert. Had a student from a certain university convinced that one needed a trillion spot mic's at 5K each and that _recording_ above

Re: [Sursound] A higher standard of standardness

2013-07-05 Thread Michael Chapman
Oh dear, sorry to upset you, Robert. I _do_ recognise the value of pink noise and I've used it plenty of times myself for exactly the reasons you give. However, I don't regret a bit what I said about the far greater value of real instrumental recordings for these sorts of purposes. Pink noise

Re: [Sursound] Fwd: Non Mixer Spatializer Demo

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Chapman
and 3) When youtube transcodes the video it adds an annoying click about once per second (I believe this is due to a mismatch between the camera's framerate and youtube's expectations. I would love to provide a theora/vorbis screencapture video instead, but, alas, I cannot find any tools

Re: [Sursound] Suggestions spherical loudspeaker installation observatory

2013-07-09 Thread Michael Chapman
Matthias Kronlachner wrote: Dear All, I am currently working on a 24-loudspeaker installation in an old observatory of Vilnius University. Maybe someone has suggestions on how to distribute those 24 loudspeakers. ... In general, for Ambisonics, you should distribute the speakers as

Re: [Sursound] Fwd: Non Mixer Spatializer Demo

2013-07-10 Thread Michael Chapman
It is very dependent on type of music. For music genres that are mostly presented on stage or similar, there is probably no need for down (or possibly even up!) as a panning location. You probably speak for the majority (about 'up') by I like listening to a 'tiered' orchestra in FOA/periphony

Re: [Sursound] Suggestions spherical loudspeaker installation observatory

2013-07-11 Thread Michael Chapman
Hi Eero, Al revers amigo. I dont know how it works with ambisonics and soundfield reconstruction but basically generally speaking your ears cant tell the difference if a speaker directly overhead is half a metre this way or the other - in effect your ears have lower resolution straight above

Re: [Sursound] Suggestions spherical loudspeaker installation observatory

2013-07-11 Thread Michael Chapman
Robert Greene wrote : ... If you need more points, then there is no canonical choice(and no one is going to discover any more Platonic solids--there aren't any more!). ... Sorry to start that one ... it was basically a joke (I say basically as like perpetual motion machines I had the

Re: [Sursound] Esfera Mic: IBC launch

2013-09-13 Thread Michael Chapman
Anyone at this year's IBC might be interested in the launch of Sennheiser's new microphone: the Esfera. http://www.noodls.com/view/84DDC0FB08F1DCD3D116474D5EC49E93382C4A5F Not sure on any other details as of yet so if anyone is going - could you report back? Thanks! Esfera provides 5.1

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