Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Ralf Buschmann
Hi Steve, you wrote on Monday, January 10, 2000, 23:40:54: How is it different? I can't see much of a difference between my TBUDL folder and a news group (I'm using Forté Agent, BTW). Of course, various commands like "Reply to all" would have a different meaning ("post to all news groups"

Re: Quick Search question

2000-01-11 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Saturday, January 08, 2000, John Sullivan wrote to TBUDL about Quick Search question: JS I'm wondering how the Quick Search functionality actually works. JS Under Miscellaneous Commands in the help, is listed: Search for a string Ctrl+Q F Search and replace

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Ralf Buschmann
Hi Mark, you wrote on Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 00:30:32: [snip] LG - Will v2.0 support hooks for virus scanning attachments to messages? Yes. SL *VERY* Bad. MA Gone:-( Why the heck (sorry) is that "*VERY* bad"?? That's something very useful, IMHO. Ralf. -- BackMagic: Disaster

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:02:37 AM, Ralf wrote: More threaded? :-) Doesn't any reply to a news or mail message automatically create a or add to a thread? No. There are a lot of email applications which do not use References and In-Reply-To. Most notably the web based email readers

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:10:21 AM, Ralf wrote: Why the heck (sorry) is that "*VERY* bad"?? That's something very useful, IMHO. Because it will either be one of two varieties. 1: Click on it and scan. This is bad because it is an added step that the user could screw up,

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, Allie Martin wrote to Steve Lamb about suggestion- / wish-list: I like vim. Think about it for a minute. Again, PMMail does it just fine on both Windows and OS/2. Think another minute. :) AM I was experimenting

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:37:59 AM, Thomas wrote: And here is the stupid question: what is "scoring"? Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has filtering) whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup article based on the rules provided in the score. You can

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:37:59 AM, you wrote: And here is the stupid question: what is "scoring"? Not a stupid question. I just discovered it when I downloaded Xnews today. It is a way of ranking messages in a newsgroup based upon very fancy filters. I don't claim to

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:44:38 AM, Oleg wrote: There is editing and editing. When people will realize that editing message, editing program, editing HTML, editing presentation, editing newspaper are different tasks, they will not want one editor for everything. I do realize they are

SOT XNews (Was: Scoring (was: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!))

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:00:08 AM, Januk wrote: Off Topic Question: Does anyone using Xnews know if and how you can download messages to read off-line? No. See its manual. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re[2]: TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:20:16 + GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:20:16 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Marck Hi Watcher, Marck On 11 January 2000 at 20:16:54 GMT -0500 (which was 01:16 where I Marck live) [EMAIL

Re: TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi tracer, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:53:59 +0700GMT (11/01/2000, 16:53 +0800GMT), tracer wrote: t Why should that be a problem ? I mean if they are on the list they t donot get rejected and if they arent they shouldnt be posting! t As almost anyone gets to know about this mailing list via the

Re[2]: bug in TOFNAME macro

2000-01-11 Thread Szendr Istvn
Hello Marck, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:38:15 AM, you wrote: snip Marck D. Pearlstone Because the macro is referring to the name once it is in the Marck D. Pearlstone *destination*. In the destination - the address header - the first Marck D. Pearlstone name is the name

We've moved! - was Re: SOT: MDI

2000-01-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Steve, Steve, can you read? Which part of taking this off-line did you not understand? This thread is dead-horse. Anyone interested in following Steve and my mud-wrestling grin can see and/or participate at: http://www.takeitoffline.com/1/H/ToODb9tSlfLnelM6Lc6.html Leif Gregory --

Re[2]: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Steve, Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful for mailing list as well... Best regards, Stefan ...Southern DOS: Y'all reckon? (yep/Nope) --

Re: bug in TOFNAME macro

2000-01-11 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Szendr, On 11 January 2000 at 11:14:17 GMT +0100 (which was 10:14 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: Marck D. Pearlstone Picture this: In a reply message, the address in Marck D. Pearlstone the To field did *not* come from your address Marck D. Pearlstone

Re[2]: RITLABS interview almost...

2000-01-11 Thread Patrick Erler
hallo Steve! on Monday, January 10, 2000, 10:23:17 PM, you wrote: SL Monday, January 10, 2000, 1:09:39 PM, Wolfgang wrote: I often have more than 20 windows active inside Opera, and they are easy to work with. Try to do that using IE/NS and the task bar. For me, it's annoying. SL And

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:03:46 -0800GMT (11/01/2000, 17:03 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: And here is the stupid question: what is "scoring"? SL Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has filtering) [...] SL get per day. That is why I said email and news are

Exporting Query

2000-01-11 Thread Conrad EJ Gonsalves
Hello, I want to export some of my emails to MS Outlook. How do I got about this as the only 2 export file type available are Unix and RFC-822 message files. Regards Conrad EJ Gonsalves Resistance is Futile ---o^o---( Conrad EJ Gonsalves aka

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello, SL Doesn't do multiple accounts nor does it have a decent overview of what is SL in even a single account. Try again. Outlook would do. Either way, TheBat! is not *just* for fetch/send/store/search mail. -- With best regards, Claudius Regn mailto:[EMAIL

Re[3]: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello, ST Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did ST not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful ST for mailing list as well... And I see our new feature rising at the horizon... -- With best regards, Claudius Regn

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello Steve, SL "optional" items to make it comparable to Bat v1.x? You are aware that by SL virtualizing everything in the manner they have described they are adding in SL several layers of complexity? Each layer has its own potential for bugs. Then your conclusion will be: do not try to

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread John Sullivan
On Tuesday 11 January 2000 Oleg Zalyalov wrote: I like UltraEdit. It is multiwindow and is almost always resides in my tray. If I will have to close external editor to let TB! know that I have finished message editing -- I don't like the idea of using my favorite editor within TB! Yes,

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about suggestion- / wish-list: SL Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:44:38 AM, Oleg wrote: There is editing and editing. When people will realize that editing message, editing program, editing HTML,

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread George M. Menegakis
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:53:51 PM, Claudius Regn wrote: SL not directly related to the main task at hand, *reading email*. SL They are doing this without that core application's full SL potential even being completely realized. If you just want to *read mail* you can use

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
Hello Leif, On Monday, January 10, 2000 you wrote: We are finally done. I hope you all find it as informative as I did! Thanks Leif! I have just reminded myself a question: what about unicode (utf-8) support? Best regards, -- Christopher J. Trybowski

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello George, GMM It doesn't go this way my friend. GMM A mail reader is made for one job. To read mail. As much as your GMM coffee machine is made to make coffee. GMM All i want is to read mail. First: in *your opinion* "it doesn't go this way", my friend. Obviously you consider a

Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat!

2000-01-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:48:18 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM I don't think we can be clearer than that. I have only one AM addition. If I could use virtual folders, I'd use them in my main account AM *only*. That's your choice. Well, of course. I only brought up my personal

Re: SOT: MDI - Re: RITLABS interview almost...

2000-01-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:26:18 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: My reasons for liking MDI interfaces has absolutely nothing to do with memory consumption. Even if Opera required more memory using MDI, I would still prefer it. I hated having to randomly choose between the multiple IE buttons on the

Re: SOT: MDI

2000-01-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:39:26 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: [..snip..] I never use cascades because, as you might have noticed with Opera, some applications don't play nice in a cascade. Opera, for example, doesn't recognize clicks for focus on certain areas of the window and in a large

OT: Opera (was: Re: SOT: MDI)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Allie and Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:49:07 -0500 GMT (11.01.2000, 22:49 +0800 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: I never use cascades because, as you might have noticed with Opera, some applications don't play nice in a cascade. Opera, for example, doesn't AM Steve, Leif has

Re: RITLABS interview almost...

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, January 10, 2000, 12:09:35 PM, Christopher wrote: I agree -- I love the way it is now in Opera -- one button for my WWW browser on the taskbar, instead of plenty. How would it look, if we had separate window and taskbar button for every account in TB? That's more or less the

Re: We've moved! - was Re: SOT: MDI

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:21:32 AM, Leif wrote: Steve, can you read? Which part of taking this off-line did you not understand? The part where you didn't declare it a dead horse until now. *YOU* took it offline and ended your remarks. I countered with a final rebuttal. --

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:34:17 AM, Stefan wrote: Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful for mailing list as well... One would think until you try to wrestle with the idea of how to

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 3:53:51 AM, Claudius wrote: Then your conclusion will be: do not try to make complex software. Doesn't work for me. No. My conclusion is given the bugs and inconsistencies that still persist in the 1.x series I don't have much faith that RITLABS can move to a

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 3:58:38 AM, Claudius wrote: Outlook would do. Either way, TheBat! is not *just* for fetch/send/store/search mail. No, and that is the problem. An email client should be just for that. Outlook would not do because it is not an email client by any stretch of the

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:14:26 AM, John wrote: Or auto-completion of header lines, integration of the Address Book into header lines. Incorrect, these are still a part of TB! and are editable there. See PMMail. Another point: sending a freshly composed email now becomes a two-stage

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:43:55 AM, Oleg wrote: Why do carpenters need other tools than bench axe? Underlying concept to most of those is the same: wood. A bench axe cannot change configuration to suit the task at hand. A program can be configured for the task at hand. Apples and

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:13:12 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Or auto-completion of header lines, integration of the Address Book into header lines. Incorrect, these are still a part of TB! and are editable there. See PMMail. Agreed. PMMail still takes responsibility for the headers

Re: SOT: Mr. Congeniality - was Re: Newbie Stuff

2000-01-11 Thread John Ramos
Hello Leif, I have to respond to this one. What you've said here epitomizes the way a support board should really be. I'm not new to computers or software, my first experience with them was a big hot room with racks of vacuum tubes glowing and tons of little flashing lights. Anyway, if some

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:33:52 AM, Allie wrote: Agreed. PMMail still takes responsibility for the headers etc. The editor only does the message body itself. What about templates though Steve? How will that be dealt with? Separate out TB! from its editor. Which is generating

Editor (was: Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:19:50 -0800 GMT (12.01.2000, 01:19 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: And you didn't answer the main my question: how will TB! know that I'm done with editing new message with my favorite editor if I have three more files open with it and don't want to close

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:42:52 -0800 GMT (12.01.2000, 01:42 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: Agreed. PMMail still takes responsibility for the headers etc. The editor only does the message body itself. What about templates though Steve? How will that be dealt with? SL

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:57:26 AM, Thomas wrote: That's exactly what I meant, not only macro results, butwhole tempaltes including quotes. Exactly. All of that text is generated by the core program before it is passed into the internal editor's buffer. Replace "buffer" with temp file

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Mark Aston
Hi Ralf, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 8:10:21 AM, you wrote: RB Hi Mark, RB you wrote on Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 00:30:32: RB [snip] LG - Will v2.0 support hooks for virus scanning attachments to messages? Yes. SL *VERY* Bad. MA Gone:-( RB Why the heck (sorry) is that "*VERY*

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread George M. Menegakis
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 4:44:16 PM, Claudius Regn wrote: First: in *your opinion* "it doesn't go this way", my friend. Obviously you consider a lot of features belonging to '*reading mail*' - and not just reading mail, that's why you use TheBat! You think this or that is essential 'mail

Re: Editor (was: Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "Editor (was: Re: suggestion- / wish-list)" From Steve Lamb: SL Of all people I'd think another unix user would get it right SL off the bat. Right off "the bat". Ha-ha, I get it. He should get the info off the bat because you're sending it from the bat! ha-ha, he-he, .

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Mark, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:19:20 + GMT (12.01.2000, 02:19 +0800 GMT), Mark Aston wrote: LG - Will v2.0 support hooks for virus scanning attachments to messages? SL *VERY* Bad. RB Why the heck (sorry) is that "*VERY* bad"?? That's something very RB useful, IMHO. MA Because

Re: Editor (was: Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:17:53 -0800 GMT (12.01.2000, 02:17 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: I haven't followed the thread closely...so pardon me for asking this, but can someone please tell me *why* again? SL Because a dedicated editor will always be better than an editor thrown

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo George, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:55:44 +0200 GMT (12.01.2000, 02:55 +0800 GMT), George M. Menegakis wrote: GMM So mail reading means at least you should have a way to GMM fetch/read/write/send/organize/search mail. You *are* describing Outlook here. GMM All the other things are optional.

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 10:57:24 AM, Thomas wrote: I agree with this. It will only your system down. Supposing you have an active virus-scanner running anyway, which you should. :-) s/only your/only slow your/gi;# :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 10:55:44 AM, George wrote: Fetching and sending mail could be done using external dedicated program. For the convinience of users it could be great to implement a way to communicate with the mail server. Actually, it is done by external dedicated programs.

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 11:03:57 AM, Thomas wrote: GMM So mail reading means at least you should have a way to GMM fetch/read/write/send/organize/search mail. You *are* describing Outlook here. No. Outlook also has newsreading, a contact list, a to do list, a day planner, a kitchen

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:09:55 -0800 GMT (12.01.2000, 03:09 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: I agree with this. It will only your system down. Supposing you have an active virus-scanner running anyway, which you should. :-) SL s/only your/only slow your/gi;# :) LOL! But I'm

Re: Editor (was: Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:51:07 AM, Thomas wrote: Suppose I reply to a message (like just now), I will still need the send/put in outbox/etc buttons. I will also still want the header information being transferred and editable. I'm not sure about the headers. The upside is that it

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:16:16 -0800 GMT (12.01.2000, 03:16 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: You *are* describing Outlook here. SL No. Outlook also has newsreading, a contact list, a to do list, a day SL planner, a kitchen sink I litterally Laughed Out Loud when I read this.

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Oliver Sturm
Hi all, IMHO, this is mainly loads of discussion about a piece of software that's supposedly arriving somewhere in the near future. What I noticed about the interview was mainly that there is no single hard fact about that piece of software available. There's some "of course this

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello George, GMM Let's draw a line. GMM In order to read mail you should I did not mean hairsplitting. You do. GMM So mail reading means at least you should have a way to GMM fetch/read/write/send/organize/search mail. GMM All the other things are optional. So by that rationality 95% of

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello Steve, SL clients have a rotten core. Sure, they look pretty, but bite into it, really SL sink your teeth into it and you find it is sour inside with no substance. I don't think so. Almost all mail clients do perfectly offer all the options you described -- and George described to be

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello Steve, Either way, TheBat! is not *just* for fetch/send/store/search mail. SL No, and that is the problem. An email client should be just for that. SL Outlook would not do because it is not an email client by any stretch of the SL imagination. Hahaha, Steve -- thank you for your

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 11 Jan 00, at 9:19, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list": When I write a book I will need heavy word processing including cross-references and so on. Which is possible. I've seen books written in just VI. OTOH, you'll note I didn't put word

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 11 Jan 00, at 22:08, Oliver Sturm wrote about "Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Fina": b) To move old messages to ... For the b) option a browse button with the ability to select a destination folder, even across accounts would be nice. This makes for an archiving

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 11 Jan 00, at 22:15, Claudius Regn wrote about "Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Fina": SL TB! is good in some areas (database management) than other clients and SL worse in other areas (IMAP). I'd rather have spell checking than IMAP. I'd rather have html-viewing than

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:05:47 PM, Owen wrote: Why not complain Because a computer professional is paid to work with computers. Personally any such person who complains about an editor like TB!'s while working on vi I'd really suspect their talents and experience. If their editors

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:35:12 +0300, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: b) To move old messages to ... For the b) option a browse button with the ability to select a destination folder, even across accounts would be nice. This makes for an archiving capability of sorts. Seems like a

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:10:22 PM, Claudius wrote: So by that rationality 95% of TheBat! functions are by now optional. Yup. And the remaining 5% which is core needs improvement. It does not, neither does TheBat! Sure it does. Let's take, for example, non-conformity to the CUA

ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer
Hello The Bat! ML, Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there would be a problem with my inbox and there is one file left there called bad4141.TMP ... how can I repeair it ... please it's my inbox!!! help me!! Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.38e on Windows 98, 4 10 Build

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:43:31 +0300, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: [..snip..] Advanced functionality *should* be supported, as much as possible! This is the major point for me, personally. Of course, provided that it doesn't bloat the code heavily and doesn't contradict with how the program

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:15:51 PM, Claudius wrote: I don't think so. Almost all mail clients do perfectly offer all the options you described -- and George described to be besic features. No, they do not. Do you really want me to get into my rant about how email clients are a shadow

Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:18:39 PM, Claudius wrote: Hahaha, Steve -- thank you for your serious argumentation... I am serious. As others have noted Lookout! is a personal information manager which happens to have email functionality. It would be like calling Netscape an email client

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:22:40 PM, Alexander wrote: Which is possible. I've seen books written in just VI. OTOH, you'll note I didn't put word processing into my list because I do know that is a different task than just editing ASCII text. Unless you use TeX;-) In this latter case,

Re: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:58:46 PM, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Hello The Bat! ML, Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there would be a problem with my inbox and there is one file left there called bad4141.TMP ... how can I repeair it ... please it's my inbox!!!

Re: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread Mark Worsham
Hi Clemens - Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 3:58:46 PM, you wrote: CGS Hello The Bat! ML, CGS Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there would be a problem CGS with my inbox and there is one file left there called bad4141.TMP CGS ... how can I repeair it ... please it's my inbox!!! help

Re: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:30:11 PM, Mark Worsham wrote: It's the high priority flag. Oh, I see... thanks Mark. I like that concept better than a separate column for marking high priority messages that some Mailers use, and the colour certainly does stand out, doesn't it. :o) Nick ---

Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread John Ramos
Hello Nick, I can't remember where I saw it but I think there is a mailbox rebuild program someplace. I had an error too, said something about the index. I can't find it again. Sorry, not more help.. --- Thanks, John Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:23:32 PM, you wrote: NA On

Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread John Ramos
Hello Mark, Your info brings up a question of mine. Does the program compress the messages files at anytime? When messages are deleted, those holes in the database could very well lead to trouble. Is there a compress, re index, backup routine anyplace and if not would it be a feature for 1.4,

Re[2]: TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:37:20 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 4:37:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thomas Hi tracer, Thomas The answer to your question was in your mail: I was very busy and it looks like I marked

Message base garbage detected.

2000-01-11 Thread Douglas M. Hinds
Hello all fellow TBUDL members, Message base garbage detected. Broken data is saved to (location)\bad92f3.tmp. Please contact your tech support about repairing the message base. That's what's happening. I also can't save messages or download mail. I closed all my other programs, then

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 at 01:03:46 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has SL filtering) whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup SL article based on the rules provided in the score. Good explanation Steve. You've convinced

Off-topic posts.

2000-01-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello users, Steve and I are discussing OT posts (off-list). I've noticed lately that there has been a huge jump in list traffic that is OT. So please see the below. putting on the moderator hat now I've said it before many times, and I'll say it again. If a discussion has strayed into the OT

Re: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi John, On 11 January 2000 at 15:10:21 GMT -0800 (which was 23:10 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: JR Is there a compress, re index, backup routine anyplace Yes - see 'Folder / Purge' and 'Folder / Compress' and 'Folder / Purge Compress' and Folder options

Re: Message base garbage detected.

2000-01-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Douglas, Go to the TBUDL FAQ at: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml and see the "Messages" section. On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 at 19:30:08 [GMT -0600], you wrote: DMHMessage base garbage detected. Broken data is saved to DMH(location)\bad92f3.tmp. DMHPlease contact your tech

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:02:19 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: SL Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has SL filtering) whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup SL article based on the rules provided in the score. Good explanation Steve. You've convinced me that

Message base garbage detected - Problem solved

2000-01-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello all fellow TBUDL members, Problem Solved by Douglas himself, who has been careless it turns out. It seems that you can't pour water into a glass that's already full. Netscape is in the same partition and is now downloading the 250th of 359 messages on the TUBDL and Opera list account and

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 05:56:15PM -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: Steve also described what Agent had (which I mistakenly thought was scoring), and although I find that meets my needs at present, true "Scoring" sure does sound interesting. I might try X-News just to see for myself, and compare

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 6:30:56 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: 1: Gravity also has scoring. Of the two, XNews and Gravity, I think Gravity it is easier to configure scoring for the neophytes out there. XNews takes a more traditional approach to the score file. You know, I tried Gravity for a

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread John Sullivan
On Tuesday 11 January 2000 Steve Lamb wrote: Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:14:26 AM, John wrote: Or auto-completion of header lines, integration of the Address Book into header lines. Incorrect, these are still a part of TB! and are editable there. See PMMail. I often alter these

OT: Re: Off-topic

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Leif, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:43:36 +0900GMT (12/01/2000, 09:43 +0800GMT), Leif Gregory wrote: LG putting on the moderator hat now I've said it before many times, LG and I'll say it again. If a discussion has strayed into the OT realm, LG please move it off-list. www.takeitofflist is a very,

Move old messages (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Alexander, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:35:12 +0300GMT (12/01/2000, 05:35 +0800GMT), Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: b) To move old messages to ... For the b) option a browse button with the ability to select a destination folder, even across accounts would be nice. This makes for an

Editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Alexander, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:22:40 +0300GMT (12/01/2000, 05:22 +0800GMT), Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: When I write a book I will need heavy word processing including cross-references and so on. Which is possible. I've seen books written in just VI. OTOH, you'll note I

Re: Editor (was: Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:27:39 -0800GMT (12/01/2000, 03:27 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: Suppose I reply to a message (like just now), I will still need the send/put in outbox/etc buttons. I will also still want the header information being transferred and editable. SL I'm not

Re[2]: International HTML preview coding system

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Alexander V. Kiselev, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:53:20 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 3:53:20 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Alexander Care to write a formal bug report now?;-) Alex, maybe they fix it if there are more paying

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:57:24 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 1:57:24 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: LG - Will v2.0 support hooks for virus scanning attachments to messages? SL *VERY* Bad. RB Why the heck

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Alexander V. Kiselev, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:43:31 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 4:43:31 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Alexander Therefore I wish to solidarize with those who are *against* adding HTML Alexander editing,

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Steve Lamb, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:51:27 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 4:51:27 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Steve Lamb wrote: Steve Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:05:47 PM, Owen wrote: Why not complain (snipped) Steve Yeah. I've been working on a

Re[2]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Oliver Sturm, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:59:38 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 1:59:38 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Oliver Sturm wrote: Oliver Hi all, Oliver IMHO, this is mainly loads of discussion about a piece of software Oliver that's supposedly

Re: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:58:46 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 4:58:46 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Clemens Hello The Bat! ML, Clemens Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there

Re[3]: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Claudius Regn, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:15:51 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 4:15:51 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Claudius Regn wrote: Claudius Hello Steve, SL clients have a rotten core. Sure, they look pretty, but bite into it, really SL sink your teeth

Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Nick Andriash, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:23:32 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 5:23:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: Nick On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:58:46 PM, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Hello The Bat! ML, Suddenly

Re[2]: bug in TOFNAME macro

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:42:35 + GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:42:35 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Marck Look: If you are using TB internationally, don't use local naming Marck conventions in the address

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