Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never regretted
upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I lose VoiceOver when I answer
a call with my headset
I can see you
but you can't see me.
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From: englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
Ugh, tat bts. I do a lot of email on the iPhone, and being able to answer my
Hello,
For me, its even more than a good 30 seconds.
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From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:26 am
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> Well maybe it's because I'm using a iPhone 4S
t; -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
> For me, I didn't find any
viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
chris
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
Hi
Do these podcasts also talk about software for say the Apple TV? OS X?
Watch OS? Don't worry if you don'
store and setting up as a new phone would do.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
ghard
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Rajmund
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>
new products go on sale like the fourth generation Apple TV
>>> which will be available to preorder next Monday and it will start shipping
>>> next Thursday.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>&g
vailable to preorder next Monday and it will start shipping
next Thursday.
Regards,
Sieghard
Regards,
Sieghard
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sub
nor
annoyances seems a bit far fetched in my opinion.
On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Rajmund wrote:
Hello,
Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair.
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From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm
Subject
bugs mentioned in this thread
absolutely prevent anyone from using iOS, so
let Apple fix them when they get to them on
what is probably a gigantic list of things to
fix, and not just for VoiceOver users.
>>>> Saying you can’t recommend the iPhone
any more because of a few
I am writing this with mBraille which since 9x has worked beautifully for me
basically. Going to try and fix, but has anyone been having difficulty with
Siri? The last 2 days I cannot talk to her. I have her turned on and so is hey
siri, but no siri.
As for bugs, which was what I wanted to co
Hello,
Haven't used windows
- Original Message -
From: Krister Ekstrom
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> Finally someone who sees sense! It's always the negativity that sticks aro
t. Its not your responsibility to fix bugs,
you can only do as much as reporting.
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From: Shawn Krasniuk
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> So I have a question for the people t
>>> definitely deteriorated, so it isn't true for everyone that IOS 8 was this
>>>> unmitigated disaster and IOS 9 has solved all of those issues.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/23/2015 06:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>&
Apple’s accessibility team is
>>>> not just focusing on VoiceOver, they’re focusing on an entire set of
>>>> features, covering different disabilities. Furthermore, they’ve now got 4
>>>> operating systems to focus on, rather than 2.
>>>> None of the
gt;> None of the bugs mentioned in this thread absolutely prevent anyone from
>>> using iOS, so let Apple fix them when they get to them on what is probably
>>> a gigantic list of things to fix, and not just for VoiceOver users.
>>> Saying you can’t recommend the iPhone any more b
t Monday and it will start shipping next Thursday.
Regards,
Sieghard
Regards,
Sieghard
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rajmund
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Qui
us.
that is lag time.
rich
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From: Scott Davert
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
Hi Chris Chaltain.
You shouldn't need to restart VoiceOver each time you reply to an
email, you shou
iPhone any more because of a few minor
annoyances seems a bit far fetched in my opinion.
On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Rajmund wrote:
Hello,
Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair.
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From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Frida
> less, really.
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: M. Taylor
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 2:50 am
> Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>>
>>
>> Hello Rajmund,
>>
>> I don't think it
Hello,
OK, I'm sure I can find it in my RSS reader, do I just type in the name? Or
where shall I start looking for it?
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:44 pm
Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
&g
2015 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
Hello Mark,
Thanks much for checking into it for me; its appreciated. :) Although, the new
release can't be that bad, there's only one new bug, and quite a few less,
really.
- Original Message
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> I can assure you, I'm not missing the point. The fact that Apple has a
> lot of products is irrelevant. Appl
essage -
From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never
regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I l
my opinion.
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Rajmund wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm
>
Hello,
Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair.
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I co
For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never
regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I lose
VoiceOver when I answer a call with my headset on, and VoiceOver freezes
when I reply to an email message. I'm still getting by with the work
arounds I've uncov
Hi,
I guess you just said what i was trying to say earlier on only mor well
spokenly than me.
Thanks for that.
/Krister
> 22 okt. 2015 kl. 18:59 skrev Wayne Merritt :
>
> Everyone,
> Think for a moment how many bugs and issues there were in iOS 8.X last
> year. A number of them were directly rel
15 2:50 am
Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> Hello Rajmund,
>
> I don't think it a breach of any protocol to let you know that, I just
> checked the beta site and there has been no future beta posted, yet.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
>
rsday, October 22, 2015 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
Hello,
I know people can't speak about it, and I don't expect them to, either. But is
the new IOS version in beta, already, or not quite yet?
- Original Message -
From: Woody An
: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
To be a publick beta tester go to beta.apple.com and sign up for the program.
When this is done, on the phone, go to beta.apple.com/profile and install the
profile app. You will need to restart
for answering my questions.
>> Connie
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>&g
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> hi,
>
> I've been beta testing iOS for a c
phone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
hi,
I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't
get to all the bugs right away, I have be
Hello,
I know people can't speak about it, and I don't expect them to, either. But is
the new IOS version in beta, already, or not quite yet?
- Original Message -
From: Woody Anna Dresner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: A
From: Wayne Merritt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing
>
>
> Everyone,
> Think for a moment how many bugs and issues there were in iOS 8.X last
> year. A number of them were directly related to VoiceOver
hi,
I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't
get to all the bugs right away, I have been pleased with the degree of feedback
I've gotten from their engineering staff and the bugs they have fixed that I've
reported. I wish there was a longer time period betw
Everyone,
Think for a moment how many bugs and issues there were in iOS 8.X last
year. A number of them were directly related to VoiceOver and a number
were in the mainstream. Apple got so much ill will from everyone
across the board for putting out things that didn't work. Now, with
iOS 9, I haven
Some folks will complain even if you hang them with a new rope. Others just
waste balloon juice.
Alan
Sent from my iPad Air
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Krister Ekstrom
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Very well said Mark, but what i ask myself is does it matter what we as beta
> testers might say? F
I'v done some beta testing in my life time because I wanted to help out and
because I wanted to play with the latest and greatest. Sometimes, that meant
that I was going to run into trouble. Then I had to make my report and wait
for instructions. Sometimes they wanted me to try this, that, or
Of course you should report bugs. They won't be addressed if Apple
doesn't know about them. They may still not be addressed, but that will
be a conscious decision made by Apple and their developers. Your target
isn't other users but the Apple developers. If you weren't going to do
something bec
Hi,
Very well said Mark, but what i ask myself is does it matter what we as beta
testers might say? For every release there has been and probably will be a
tsunami of negativity and complaining and even if what has been complained
about would be fixed to perfection they complain about the fixes.
Well said Mark. I beta test products not because I have to, but because I want
to, and don't expect thanks for doing so. I believe that if I offer my help,
I'm doing something good for the blind community. And if a bug gets squashed
because of my contribution, cool. If not, oh well. That's why I
Hello Everyone,
I just want to let those of you, who are not beta testers, know, is that
with any company, be it Apple, Microsoft, Sony, etc, reporting a problem,
regardless of how important it may appear to be to the tester, is not always
addressed immediately or, in some cases, ever.
It has b
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