Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-04-07 Thread David Chittenden
neously, and presumably needing their >>> own gps data, pose a significant battery drain that perhaps one integrated >>> app would diminish? >>> >>> Thanks. Keith >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-04-07 Thread David Chittenden
ps data, pose a significant battery drain that perhaps one integrated >>> app would diminish? >>> >>> Thanks. Keith >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of David

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-04-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
avid Chittenden Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about everything I need

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-04-07 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
--- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of David Chittenden >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:24 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >> >> Which is why I

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-04-07 Thread David Chittenden
app > would diminish? > > Thanks. Keith > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > David Chittenden > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:24 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye a

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-04 Thread Peter Holdstock
Sunday, March 3, 2013 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN no, Navigon Map updates are charged. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well a

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Richard Turner
: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN I agree with this. The only thing I have really found Apple maps to have going for it is good VO accessibility and that is definitely great. However, it is great accessibility to something that for POI information at least is next to useless. I

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread James Mannion
it isn't. > > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Mary Otten
I don't know what Google's cut is, but they do get one. Lary from APH made reference to it on the list for the nearby explorer app. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
no, Navigon Map updates are charged. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enq

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
uying a product to keep any more! >>> >>> Rh. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Grant Hardy" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >&

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
roups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > erik burggraaf > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:10 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN > > Onboard maps are absolutely essential for the price point. Many of

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Peter Holdstock
ginal Message- From: Mary Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 1:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Hi, Keith, I'm with you. I will never spend $100 on any app that I will only be able to use for a year or two. If this is the way

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Joseph
Hello, Following your reasoning, this is how I see it. Then, the app's price should also be the same as what sighted people pay. Sent from my Sprint iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Robert Fenton wrote: > Hello everybody: > > At the risk of offending some people, I offer a different persp

Moderator Note: Please read - Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
> Hello. This topic has obviously turned into a wonderful debate and discussion > about various topics which are all related and spawned from the new Sendero > and Seeing Eye app. However I would like to remind everyone that the > discussion lately has not been about the CSUN presentation. Inste

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-03 Thread john gallagher
hi keith well i am very lucky hopefully as there are no piano tuners being training any more here in the uk i should be able to earn as long as i can hear. i can certainly see though where you are coming from. look at upgrades to jaws and window eyes but i am sure mike and his team at sendero

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Grant Hardy
gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 03/03/2013, at 13:23, "Richard Turner" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't. >>>> >>>>

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Brett
quot; >> wrote: >> >>> I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread David Chittenden
> Richard >>> >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of David Chittenden >>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM >>> To: viphone@googl

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Grant Hardy
aracco wrote: >>> Larry from APH has said that Apple does not afford the access to the guts >>> of >>> >>> the OS that they require, and that Apple's business and marketing >>> policies >>> are too restrictive. >>> >>>

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Grant Hardy
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of David Chittenden >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >> >> Which is why I have everything covered that the See

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
fresh look at. Thank you, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 7:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN The Apple

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread David Chittenden
viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN > > Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be > providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about > everything I need including names of streets I am pa

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
>> -----Original Message----- >> From: James Mannion >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:44 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >> >> Oh that explains it. Sounds like there is little to no

RE: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
drain that perhaps one integrated app would diminish? Thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Grant Hardy
? Also I thought >>>> I read in the manual that the software has a choice of three sets of >>>> maps. >>>> >>>> On 3/2/13, RobH! wrote: >>>>> An easy thing to code into the app though; and I remember dropDead >>>>> a

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
GPS system. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Richard, Have you tried the ap

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
The manual for the app is available on the Sendero site. And the app has not been released, nor has a price been announced. So all we know is what is in the available documentation, e.g. what are the map sources etc. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
Richard, Have you tried the apple maps? I've heard some people say that they have no issue with Apple maps. I guess it just depends on the luck of the draw, rather like Navigon and what it does with Portland. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are sub

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Malver
02, 2013 7:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN If you missed my original post on this topic, 1. it has not been released and there is no projected date, it could be soon or it could be months yet. 2. Mike May stated at CSUN yesterday that

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ree years > of access, or what. > > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:33 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject:

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
three years of access, or what. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Ha

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Has the Sendero app been released yet or are we still just speculating on it's price and functionality? As with all of these discussions, everyone can obviously have an opinion, but each person needs to decide for themselves if the feature set is worth the price or not. Sure, you may get close to

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Andy Baracco
Didn't Alva try this with their MPO, and we saw what happened to that. Andy -Original Message- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN I think the background is that AP

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Andy Baracco
phone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Oh that explains it. Sounds like there is little to no chance that the APH option is coming to IOS then. On 3/2/13, David Chittenden wrote: APH explained, in an interview last year, that they decided on Android because it gives

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
eeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with on

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Robert Fenton
Hello everybody: At the risk of offending some people, I offer a different perspective on the developer of the seeing eye app charging fees every year or every three years. If the developer went to a one time pricing model, it would have to price the app higher to recover its development costs

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread David Chittenden
Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) or online maps

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Keith Watson
John, Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to work the way it was sold to you. Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread David Chittenden
;> worse. >>> You're not even buying a product to keep any more! >>> >>> Rh. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Grant Hardy" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: Summary o

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Cara Quinn
.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Google has a public API which anyone can use on any platform to get map and location data. LookTel Breadcrumbs GPS us

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Google has a public API which anyone can use on any platform to get map and location data. LookTel Breadcrumbs GPS uses this currently to retrieve nearest address, street and city / state info for a traveler&#

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Cara Quinn
>> - Original Message - >> From: "Grant Hardy" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM >> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >> >> >> I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 years of updates

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread john gallagher
hi there very interesting about the gps receiver. i think mike said the garmin glo one was difficult to get working for the braille note and the braille sense products. i agree about the costs again for us blind people we have to think about the cost of all this. -- You received this messa

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
; You're not even buying a product to keep any more! >>> >>> Rh. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Grant Hardy" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread erik burggraaf
GPS to find their >>> way around Dease Lake *smile*, but I was just making a point how for a >>> visitor having maps on the phone can certainly be of great value. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ing to continue talking about APH and Android apps or > devices on this list. > > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:41 AM > To: vip

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread john gallagher
hi richard i just put in a search for maps here in the uk on the apple store and it is amazing how many there are truly amazing also how many gps apps are there as well. as i said earlier at least we have the choice now. it will be very interesting to see how it all plans out. i did notice g

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
lf Of James Mannion Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN There is a population of blind Android usesers that swear by it and swear off Apple and accept inferior accessibility because their priority is googl

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread James Mannion
e app though; and I remember dropDead >>>> apps >>>> were deemed illegal here years ago, but rules change, often for the >>>> worse. >>>> You're not even buying a product to keep any more! >>>> >>>> Rh. >>>> - Original Messag

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread James Mannion
gt; You're not even buying a product to keep any more! >> >> Rh. >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Grant Hardy" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM >> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread David Chittenden
he app though; and I remember dropDead apps >>> were deemed illegal here years ago, but rules change, often for the worse. >>> You're not even buying a product to keep any more! >>> >>> Rh. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gra

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
oups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN hi there keith interesting but say on my sendero on the apex because the maps are actually on the machine even though they will not get updated they will still work and yes cost is important for blind people as we have to p

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread David Chittenden
I am sticking with my iPhone. I use TomTom, Apple Maps, Local Scope (which nicely accesses and integrates multiple sources for POIs, listing, for example, all of the local bus stops in my city), Where To (though Local Scope has become my primary app for POIs), Navigon (I much prefer TomTom), iMo

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread john gallagher
hi there keith interesting but say on my sendero on the apex because the maps are actually on the machine even though they will not get updated they will still work and yes cost is important for blind people as we have to pay much more for our devices and of course the software. am i correct i

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread john gallagher
hi there well not sure how sensative the inbuilt receiver is i suppose it is like the treka breeze how good is it's gps receiver. hard to say really. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Mary Otten
APH designed their app for the brailleplus 18, their blindness-oriented notetaker/phone that runs Android, and after that was on the market for a while, they released the app to the playstore. So it makes sense that they'd do that imho. The map data the Sendero app uses come from navteq, or you

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread David Chittenden
dropDead apps >> were deemed illegal here years ago, but rules change, often for the worse. >> You're not even buying a product to keep any more! >> >> Rh. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Grant Hardy" >> To: >> Sent: Satu

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
phone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN See, that's where I differ from you. I do not and will not subscribe to such a service. Paid services such as Seriou

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Keith Watson
Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Keith Watson > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 4:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSU

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello, why use a GPS receiver with the nexus 7 when it has one built in? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:40 PM, john gallagher wrote: > hi there yes many blind people are coming over to the android platform now i

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
Bluetooth. Time will tell if they end up recommending it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of john gallagher Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread john gallagher
hi there yes many blind people are coming over to the android platform now i think my sasung s 3 picks gps up better than the iphone. i have not tried an external gps receiver with my google nexus 7 tablet yet will be interesting to see how that works. -- You received this message because you

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Louise Redsull
lf Of Mary Sent: 02 March 2013 1:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Hi, I use Blind Square without Four Square and do just fine here in the US, too. Mary On Mar 2, 2013, at 8:14 AM, John Gallagher wrote: > Hi Mary trouble it is

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread john gallagher
hi there no sorry about that i was thinking of navigon which i do use. i also use blind square here in the uk and to be speaking truthfully it seem very good indeed. i am thinking about acquiring the garmin glo receiver which i could use with my android samsung s 3 as well as gps is so import

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
>>> >>> Rh. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Grant Hardy" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >>> >>> >>> I wond

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
;> Rh. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Grant Hardy" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM >> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >> >> >> I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 ye

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
rse people don't need a GPS to find their >> way around Dease Lake *smile*, but I was just making a point how for a >> visitor having maps on the phone can certainly be of great value. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> >> -Original

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
2013 9:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN And, it's using Mapquest? I can't tell you how many circuitous routes and getting-lost horror road trips I've been on thanks to MQ. Prepare to take the scenic route, whether you can

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
Of erik burggraaf Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Onboard maps are absolutely essential for the price point. Many of my clients who would most benefit from this are ipod users, or even IPad users who

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
o app evolves. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN What I'm really curious ab

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Turner
: > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN > > > I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 years of updates, or 1-3 > years where you will be allowed to use the app? If the latter, I > wonder how they'll possi

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Mary, How many $100's do you think will need to be donated to Blind Square to develop turn by turn navigation as we need it? 10 users, 100 users, 1000 users, 10,000 users? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sender

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Aaron Linson
so would you say stick with IOS or get an android based on the APH and Sendero app? I'm sticking with iOS Aaron Linson IOS App Accessibility Advocate Once an Eagle Always an Eagle On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:10 AM, James Mannion wrote: > Let's all hope APH will bring the Near By Explorer app to IOS.

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
remember dropDead apps > were deemed illegal here years ago, but rules change, often for the worse. > You're not even buying a product to keep any more! > > Rh. > - Original Message - > From: "Grant Hardy" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread erik burggraaf
ue. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of John Gallagher > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:14 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Summary of

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Behalf Of John Gallagher Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Hi Mary trouble it is the maps that incur the costs I cannot understand why the actual maps on the phone cannot be used. so with blind square d

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Mary
Hi, I use Blind Square without Four Square and do just fine here in the US, too. Mary On Mar 2, 2013, at 8:14 AM, John Gallagher wrote: > Hi Mary trouble it is the maps that incur the costs I cannot understand why > the actual maps on the phone cannot be used. > > so with blind square do yo

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread John Gallagher
Hi Mary trouble it is the maps that incur the costs I cannot understand why the actual maps on the phone cannot be used. so with blind square do you need four square as well for the poi data? I did try blind over hear in the uk and it did seem to work great.# cheers then. At 13:09 02/03/2013, yo

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread Mary
Hi, Keith, I'm with you. I will never spend $100 on any app that I will only be able to use for a year or two. If this is the way things end up, I will donate $100 to Blind Square so they can develop turn by turn navigation. Mary On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Keith Watson wrote: > Point 3 ju

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread RobH!
02, 2013 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 years of updates, or 1-3 years where you will be allowed to use the app? If the latter, I wonder how they'll possibly enforce this given that it is not the way purchase

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-02 Thread RobH!
rch 02, 2013 12:33 AM Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Does that mean )100 for one or three years of access? If so, wow! David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 02/03/2013, at 13:17, Richard Turner wrote:

RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN Point 3 just killed any hope of this app for me. If I purchase an app for $100 and its only good for a year? Dream on! I would rather donate $100 to blind square. Keith On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > 1: The maps are online. The app

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk
And, it's using Mapquest? I can't tell you how many circuitous routes and getting-lost horror road trips I've been on thanks to MQ. Prepare to take the scenic route, whether you can see or not. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread James Mannion
Let's all hope APH will bring the Near By Explorer app to IOS. I also reserve judgement on the Sendero app for sure. Honestly though, so far from what I have heard about each of these apps, and I have not yet used either of them, the APH offering is way better from what I am able to go on so far.

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread Grant Hardy
Yes, fair point I suppose. They would most likely need you to create and sign into an account to facilitate this. This is a rather unfortunate side effect of online map access, though it does make business sense. Grant On 3/1/13, Rocket wrote: > Since the app needs the online maps to function, t

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread Rocket
Since the app needs the online maps to function, the website can block the app from accessing data when your subscription expires. The sirius app is an example of an app that won't work without a paid subscription. Marco the rocket Sent from my iPad On 2013-03-01, at 17:49, Grant Hardy wrote

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread Grant Hardy
I wonder whether they are thinking of 1-3 years of updates, or 1-3 years where you will be allowed to use the app? If the latter, I wonder how they'll possibly enforce this given that it is not the way purchases from the App Store normally work. I've never heard of expiry dates on App Store applica

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread Richard Turner
If anyone wants to give Sendero Group feedback about the pricing of the Seeing Eye app or anything else, here is their contact form and tole free phone number: http://www.senderogroup.com/about/contact_us.asp 1-888-757-6810 ext. 0, for customer service or sales Richard (Sent from Richard's iP

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread David Chittenden
Does that mean )100 for one or three years of access? If so, wow! David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 02/03/2013, at 13:17, Richard Turner wrote: > 1: The maps are online. The app is using the Mapquest engine. > 2: No virtual

Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN

2013-03-01 Thread Keith Watson
Point 3 just killed any hope of this app for me. If I purchase an app for $100 and its only good for a year? Dream on! I would rather donate $100 to blind square. Keith On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > 1: The maps are online. The app is using the Mapquest engine. > 2: No vi