Re: i o s and visually impaired users

2012-09-27 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Ed. When you say navigate the search results in the App Store by headings, 
do you mean rotate your fingers until the roter says headings? If so, after 
you've set the roter to headings, how do you navigate the headings?

Shawn
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Re: i o s and visually impaired users

2012-09-27 Thread David Chittenden
The single-finger vertical flick navigates to the next item set via the rotor. 
So, if rotor is characters, vertical flick navigates one character at a time.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 27/09/2012, at 19:16, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ed. When you say navigate the search results in the App Store by headings, 
 do you mean rotate your fingers until the roter says headings? If so, after 
 you've set the roter to headings, how do you navigate the headings?
 
 Shawn
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Fwd: Apple Development Program.

2012-09-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Here is the link I promised.

Kawal.


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Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Harris
This is a guy and gal thing;  a guy will be on time even if he has to come 
as he is;  a gal will be late and insist on arriving looking her best.  You 
only get one shot to make the right impression, iOs6 might have done the guy 
thing instead of the gal thing. If apple got themselves a woman CEO, I 
wonder if this would be the result?

R!
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20 PM
Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back


Hi,



I'm sure you understand that, in today's technology, deadlines are the most
important thing around.  In business, if people expect something in
September, that when they want it and business has to provide.  A month
before IOS 6 came out, everyone was speculating as to what would be and were
really expecting IOS 6 to be out on time.  Apple had to bring it out even if
they knew that it wasn't polished just like automobile manufacturers will
put out a car with known problems but would rather deal with a recall than
to hold the production beyond the expected deadline for release.



If you remember Windows 95 and all the others after, they all came out with
serious bugs but they came out on time as announced and bugs were corrected
after and everyone lived with that.  That's the way that big business works




I think we need to give Apple a couple of months to see how they deal with
the after release and then I will agree or not with your statements.  After
all, IOS 6 is only a week old and I am positive that engineers at Apple are
working around the clock to fix things that don't work and implement new
ones.  I'm sure Apple wants to stay on top and I'm sure they know how to do
it.  They just need time and that is something we, as users, are not giving
them.  We want better and faster than what can be done and why!  Only a few
short years ago, we as blind people, didn't even have access to anything
else on our cell phones than dial and answer.  We were complaining about
things as simple as buttons being too small to dial easily and audio
quality.  Now we complain about how long it takes to delete a message when
,a very short while ago, we didn't even have access to that message.  We
even had to ask for sighted help to put contacts in our phones because we
couldn't do it ourselves.



That is not to say that we should stop pushing for better access and better
things but we should be a little more patient as to how quickly it should
come.  All week, I have been following this list and read a lot more
complaints about what wasn't working quite right than I read of things that
are great innovations making room for more improvements.



I'm sure that, within the next few weeks, a lot of small bugs that I've read
about here in the past week will be corrected and we will already be
wondering what IOS 7 will bring.  We are just never happy with what we have.



Ron  Danvers





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Of Kliphton
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back




The iPhone 5 is an incredible smartphone. I've been using mine since it
arrived on my doorstep at 7:48 p.m. the day after launch day (after a
painfully long wait), and I love it. It's spectacularly thin and light, it's
beautiful - like most Apple products - and that larger display is such a
welcome improvement.


I chose the white and silver model - I've had white iPhones for as long as
they've been available - and I think it's the prettiest gadget I've ever
owned. It's also powerful, and noticeably faster than my already snappy
iPhone 4S. Its battery life is excellent, and so is the camera.

Overall, I have a long list of positive things to say about the iPhone 5 -
the hardware is just unbeatable. But I think there's one thing letting it
down, and that's iOS 6.



Before I jump in and tell you why iOS 6 is letting down the iPhone 5, let me
just make one thing clear: I love iOS. It's by far the most polished mobile
platform there is, and it's been my OS of choice since its debut with the
original iPhone.

iOS just works - in so many ways. Its ability to sync with iTunes and
iPhoto, and all the benefits that iCloud brings, make it a perfect companion
for Mac users like me. It's super simple to use - even my granddad's using
it - and the catalog of third-party apps available on iOS is second to none.

But as a technology writer, I'm often required to step outside my comfort
zone and test other devices. devices that don't run iOS. Since selling my
iPhone 4S a couple weeks ago, I've been using a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and
prior to that I tested a long list of Android and Windows Phone smartphones.

Apple's platform is the best of the bunch, but the gap between iOS and its
competitors is getting ever smaller.

What I've learned along the way is that Apple's platform is the best of 

ICloud.com Email address added to my Apple ID

2012-09-27 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi all,

I happened to reset the settings on my iPhone today and then got the
strangest of popups. The message stated that a new Email address had
been added to my Apple ID. The Email address bares the same alias as
the one I signed up for when I created an iCloud account. That one was
@me.com, and this new one is @icloud.com. I certainly never created an
address @icloud.com recently and what's more, the address isn't
valid--mail to it is bounced.

What do you think could be going on?

Grant

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Re: Waking up with music - the Sonos alternative

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Howell
You know I want to go check one of the Sonos systems out because I have heard 
so many good things about them. I know they are not cheap, but apparently the 
sound is as good as or better than the Bose Sound Dock or whatever they call 
it. If the app is fully accessible it makes it even better.

On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Courtney,
  
 If you are ever in the market for a good quality boombox or multi-room audio 
 system give Sonos a try. The Sonos app is fully accessible and you can wake 
 up to anything you want, any song, album, a playlist you make, any of the 
 thousands of internet radio stations like those you’d find on Ootunes or Tune 
 In or any music subscription you may have like Spotify, Rdio, Slacker, 
 Rhapsody etc. You can tell Sonos to start playing at whatever time you want, 
 you can set as many alarms as you want, a different one for each day, the 
 same for Monday to Friday etc. You can also tell the system to play for 30 
 minutes, 60 minutes and so on after it starts after which time it stops 
 automatically and if you have multiple Sonos players in the house you can 
 play only in one room or 2 or on any player in the house.The music starts out 
 at low volume and graduately reaches the volume level you specified. The 
 least expensive way to get into a Sonos system would be with a Play:3 player 
 which is $299. You’d have to either have it connected to your router directly 
 to access the internet and the music on your computer or in your iTunes 
 library or you can buy a Zonebridge along with it for an extra $99. Then you 
 can hook this up to your router wherever it is located in your house and you 
 can put the Play:3 into any room as it gets the signal from the Zonebridge 
 wirelessly. The players are, however, not working on batteries, they do have 
 to plugged in and you can have as many as you like. The next step up would be 
 a Play:5 for I think $399 or something like that, it’s bigger more like a 
 traditional boombox and every bit as good sounding as a Bose Wave or whatever 
 their boombox is called. After that you get into the Connect:Amp which is 
 $599 and it’s just a touch bigger than an Apple TV and about twice as high 
 but has a very similar shape and it is basically an 110 Watt Class D 
 amplifier which would have to be hooked up to any set of bookshelf or larger 
 speakers and it sounds extremely well depending of course how good the 
 speakers are you connect to it.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 
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Re: i o s and visually impaired users

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Howell
The media hates success in general. You cannot tear someone or something down 
unless you can find even the smallest possible thing to use as the lever to 
promote negativity. Media loves to show stories of how big companies such as 
APple is really trying to screw the llittle person. No wonder people are 
always looking for the negative. Of course just my opinion.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 1:16 AM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:

 Using it is no problem and I think over all it is an upgrade. I can't
 help but wonder if the reason it was covered was because it was
 another opportunity to put a negative spin on the IPhone and things
 related by the media. The media and the press, in my view, they seem
 to absolutely hate the IPhone. They hate its success and they are
 doing everything they can to turn the tide against it. Sure you can
 find a few positive articles, but they are from a specific collection
 of people and sources. So they found what they could present as
 another trashing opportunity.
 
 Jim
 
 On 9/26/12, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have no problems as well navigating the App Store   I find it easy using
 it.
 
 Margaret
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App
 store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like
 the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change.
 :)
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote:
 
 Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with
 voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say
 that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used
 to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with
 the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make
 improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it
 over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am
 not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it.
 
 JMO
 
 Ed
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was
 posted by apple insider.
 It talks about app store and voice over.
 Read the article and read some of the coments.
 Great  to see this.
 Hit enter on the link below.
 Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade
 http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade
 
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Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Howell
Oh don't' be ridiculous! The sex of the CEO would have nothing to do with the 
success or perception there of. The CEO depends on those in marketing to 
promote the product and depends on the engineers and designers to create the 
wow factor. People tend to set certain expectations and if APple fails to 
meet those expectations, then APple is considered to no longer be innovative. 
Innovation is a double edged sword and APple has created a damned if you do 
and damned if you don't world for themselves. Do not forget that there are 
varying degrees of innovation as well. I think maybe this version of the iPhone 
was more innovative in terms of design and changes to the internal hardware. 
The OS brought a lot of changes, but many were not necessarily innovative or 
revolutionary as evolutionary. The other manufacturers are finally catching up 
and trying to innovate as APple has for years. THe problem is some of these 
competitors are bringing untried technologies to the table such as NFC which 
has a rather low adoption rate at this point and some real security issues that 
have yet to be addressed. So, neat stuff, but not ready for primetime either. 
Also keep in mind that APple tends to see how folks react to some of these new 
technologies and may not be the first to put it out there, but will ensure once 
they do it works better than ever.
Lots of things to take into consideration, so you cannot just look at one thing 
and oh the sex of the CEO just is not a real factor.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 This is a guy and gal thing;  a guy will be on time even if he has to come 
 as he is;  a gal will be late and insist on arriving looking her best.  You 
 only get one shot to make the right impression, iOs6 might have done the guy 
 thing instead of the gal thing. If apple got themselves a woman CEO, I 
 wonder if this would be the result?
 
 R!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back
 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 I'm sure you understand that, in today's technology, deadlines are the most
 important thing around.  In business, if people expect something in
 September, that when they want it and business has to provide.  A month
 before IOS 6 came out, everyone was speculating as to what would be and were
 really expecting IOS 6 to be out on time.  Apple had to bring it out even if
 they knew that it wasn't polished just like automobile manufacturers will
 put out a car with known problems but would rather deal with a recall than
 to hold the production beyond the expected deadline for release.
 
 
 
 If you remember Windows 95 and all the others after, they all came out with
 serious bugs but they came out on time as announced and bugs were corrected
 after and everyone lived with that.  That's the way that big business works
 
 
 
 
 I think we need to give Apple a couple of months to see how they deal with
 the after release and then I will agree or not with your statements.  After
 all, IOS 6 is only a week old and I am positive that engineers at Apple are
 working around the clock to fix things that don't work and implement new
 ones.  I'm sure Apple wants to stay on top and I'm sure they know how to do
 it.  They just need time and that is something we, as users, are not giving
 them.  We want better and faster than what can be done and why!  Only a few
 short years ago, we as blind people, didn't even have access to anything
 else on our cell phones than dial and answer.  We were complaining about
 things as simple as buttons being too small to dial easily and audio
 quality.  Now we complain about how long it takes to delete a message when
 ,a very short while ago, we didn't even have access to that message.  We
 even had to ask for sighted help to put contacts in our phones because we
 couldn't do it ourselves.
 
 
 
 That is not to say that we should stop pushing for better access and better
 things but we should be a little more patient as to how quickly it should
 come.  All week, I have been following this list and read a lot more
 complaints about what wasn't working quite right than I read of things that
 are great innovations making room for more improvements.
 
 
 
 I'm sure that, within the next few weeks, a lot of small bugs that I've read
 about here in the past week will be corrected and we will already be
 wondering what IOS 7 will bring.  We are just never happy with what we have.
 
 
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kliphton
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:32 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back
 
 
 
 
 The iPhone 5 is an incredible smartphone. I've been using mine since it
 arrived on my doorstep at 7:48 p.m. the day after launch day (after a
 painfully 

Navigating the App Store

2012-09-27 Thread Les Kriegler
Once you have changed the Rotor to Headings, then you can either swipe right to 
get to the info you desire, or flick down with 1 finger to move from heading to 
heading.

Les
On Sep 26, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote:

 Hello, have you tried to navigate the search results by headings? If you 
 navigate this way it will take you all the way down the list and to the end 
 page.
 
 hth
 Ed
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:31 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have had not problem making the store function, it is a little
 bothersome that in my experience I can not get a 3 finger swipe to
 change pages in search results though. It is ok in the updates list,
 but not in search results. I don't know if for some od reason I am
 just having that issue. Swiping through the items seems to make the
 page changes follow along, but can not find how to advance by page.
 
 On 9/26/12, Jesus Garcia jesusga...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would echo the comments regarding how simple the new store is, I have had
 no problems purchasing, searching, or updating apps. I think some of the
 confusion some may be experiencing has to do with the fact that under the
 old system the app download progress and the ability to open the app once
 it
 had finished downloading and installing was separate from the store and now
 it is combined. But folks that hold true for all users, we cannot say the
 store is not accessible, anyone can say they don't like the new store, but
 not in my opinion that it is not accessible.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 19:58
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users
 
 I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store,
 whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new
 store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :)
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote:
 
 Hello, first off. I don't find the app store any harder to use with
 voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say
 that
 they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to
 them.
 I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the
 app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly
 without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There
 aren't
 any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community
 is all in a huff over it.
 
 JMO
 
 Ed
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was
 posted by apple insider.
 It talks about app store and voice over.
 Read the article and read some of the coments.
 Great  to see this.
 Hit enter on the link below.
 Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade
 http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say
 -ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade
 
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Re: Triple Click Home Default

2012-09-27 Thread PHILLIP TRACY
No sir, that was the first thing I attempted after being unsuccessful so I had 
the store person verify that triple click home was indeed not set on this 
iPhone 5.
I was truly shocked because it had not been touched, he handed it straight out 
of the box to me while he left to get my otter box defender. All my Iowa iPhone 
friends have also reported mixed results, all of them having had iPhones since 
they started coming with VoiceOver.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The volume was probably turned down.  This is not hardware specific.  So, I'm 
 pretty sure your phone had this capability.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It must be for some, and not for others.  I got both my 4s and 5 in the 
 mail, and had to have my wife turn voice over on.  Upon taking it out of the 
 box, I tried triple click home, and got nothing.
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 no. This was introduced in IOS 5 last year.  The reason you had to go into 
 settings and set it up yourself is because, your device was set up at the 
 store.  You must use VO at the setup process for tripple press home to be 
 on by default.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Unless it has changed in iPhone 5, I had to go into settings and set triple
 home myself.  In the store they put VO on, but I could only interrupt it,
 not turn it off and on until I did this.
 Reggie
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Triple Click Home Default
 
 Hi,
 
 Triple click home works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I recently ordered my shiny new iPhone 5 from Apple and am anxiously
 awaiting its arrival. My question is, when a brand new phone is unboxed,
 does the Triple Click Home function default to turning on VoiceOver, or 
 will
 I need to connect the new phone to the PC in order to activate it with my
 carrier and then restore from the backup, or will I be able to do all the
 setup right on the phone and restore from my iCloud backup?
 Thanks in advance for all help.
 Regards, Paula 
 
 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456
 
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RE: Triple Click Home Default

2012-09-27 Thread Rich Cavallaro
That is odd.
When I got my 5 on launch day, I took it out of the box.
I was able to use triple click home and voiceover came up with no issues at
all.
How odd.
Rich Cavallaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of PHILLIP TRACY
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Triple Click Home Default

No sir, that was the first thing I attempted after being unsuccessful so I
had the store person verify that triple click home was indeed not set on
this iPhone 5.
I was truly shocked because it had not been touched, he handed it straight
out of the box to me while he left to get my otter box defender. All my Iowa
iPhone friends have also reported mixed results, all of them having had
iPhones since they started coming with VoiceOver.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The volume was probably turned down.  This is not hardware specific.  So,
I'm pretty sure your phone had this capability.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It must be for some, and not for others.  I got both my 4s and 5 in the
mail, and had to have my wife turn voice over on.  Upon taking it out of the
box, I tried triple click home, and got nothing.
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 no. This was introduced in IOS 5 last year.  The reason you had to go
into settings and set it up yourself is because, your device was set up at
the store.  You must use VO at the setup process for tripple press home to
be on by default.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Regina Alvarado
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Unless it has changed in iPhone 5, I had to go into settings and 
 set triple home myself.  In the store they put VO on, but I could 
 only interrupt it, not turn it off and on until I did this.
 Reggie
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Triple Click Home Default
 
 Hi,
 
 Triple click home works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I recently ordered my shiny new iPhone 5 from Apple and am 
 anxiously
 awaiting its arrival. My question is, when a brand new phone is 
 unboxed, does the Triple Click Home function default to turning on 
 VoiceOver, or will I need to connect the new phone to the PC in 
 order to activate it with my carrier and then restore from the 
 backup, or will I be able to do all the setup right on the phone and
restore from my iCloud backup?
 Thanks in advance for all help.
 Regards, Paula
 
 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456
 
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Still trouble with email

2012-09-27 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I have an iPod touch 4 and an iPhone 4 S.  
Both have push turned off and check for mail manually.  On the iPod touch it 
does what it is supposed to do but my iPhone still checks for email.  
What could be the reason for this and how do I fix it?  
Jen  

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Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Harris
I know I know, I was speculating  on the bit described between going early 
as-is and going late, done right;  this was the last thread we were looking 
at.  I don't normally bother explaining tongue.in.cheek jokes.

R!
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back


Oh don't' be ridiculous! The sex of the CEO would have nothing to do with 
the success or perception there of. The CEO depends on those in marketing to 
promote the product and depends on the engineers and designers to create the 
wow factor. People tend to set certain expectations and if APple fails to 
meet those expectations, then APple is considered to no longer be 
innovative. Innovation is a double edged sword and APple has created a 
damned if you do and damned if you don't world for themselves. Do not 
forget that there are varying degrees of innovation as well. I think maybe 
this version of the iPhone was more innovative in terms of design and 
changes to the internal hardware. The OS brought a lot of changes, but many 
were not necessarily innovative or revolutionary as evolutionary. The other 
manufacturers are finally catching up and trying to innovate as APple has 
for years. THe problem is some of these competitors are bringing untried 
technologies to the table such as NFC which has a rather low adoption rate 
at this point and some real security issues that have yet to be addressed. 
So, neat stuff, but not ready for primetime either. Also keep in mind that 
APple tends to see how folks react to some of these new technologies and may 
not be the first to put it out there, but will ensure once they do it works 
better than ever.
Lots of things to take into consideration, so you cannot just look at one 
thing and oh the sex of the CEO just is not a real factor.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 This is a guy and gal thing;  a guy will be on time even if he has to come
 as he is;  a gal will be late and insist on arriving looking her best. 
 You
 only get one shot to make the right impression, iOs6 might have done the 
 guy
 thing instead of the gal thing. If apple got themselves a woman CEO, I
 wonder if this would be the result?

 R!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back


 Hi,



 I'm sure you understand that, in today's technology, deadlines are the 
 most
 important thing around.  In business, if people expect something in
 September, that when they want it and business has to provide.  A month
 before IOS 6 came out, everyone was speculating as to what would be and 
 were
 really expecting IOS 6 to be out on time.  Apple had to bring it out even 
 if
 they knew that it wasn't polished just like automobile manufacturers will
 put out a car with known problems but would rather deal with a recall than
 to hold the production beyond the expected deadline for release.



 If you remember Windows 95 and all the others after, they all came out 
 with
 serious bugs but they came out on time as announced and bugs were 
 corrected
 after and everyone lived with that.  That's the way that big business 
 works




 I think we need to give Apple a couple of months to see how they deal with
 the after release and then I will agree or not with your statements. 
 After
 all, IOS 6 is only a week old and I am positive that engineers at Apple 
 are
 working around the clock to fix things that don't work and implement new
 ones.  I'm sure Apple wants to stay on top and I'm sure they know how to 
 do
 it.  They just need time and that is something we, as users, are not 
 giving
 them.  We want better and faster than what can be done and why!  Only a 
 few
 short years ago, we as blind people, didn't even have access to anything
 else on our cell phones than dial and answer.  We were complaining about
 things as simple as buttons being too small to dial easily and audio
 quality.  Now we complain about how long it takes to delete a message when
 ,a very short while ago, we didn't even have access to that message.  We
 even had to ask for sighted help to put contacts in our phones because we
 couldn't do it ourselves.



 That is not to say that we should stop pushing for better access and 
 better
 things but we should be a little more patient as to how quickly it should
 come.  All week, I have been following this list and read a lot more
 complaints about what wasn't working quite right than I read of things 
 that
 are great innovations making room for more improvements.



 I'm sure that, within the next few weeks, a lot of small bugs that I've 
 read
 about here in the past week will be corrected and we will already be
 wondering what IOS 7 will bring.  We are just never happy 

RE: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Andrew Head
Who's karen's grumpier sister? I am from Australia so Karen is our default
voice and I agree she is much better than Samantha, whether she is in high
quality or not. *smile*

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Using the Australian voice as default

Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default

The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ voices
very quickly.

It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but this
is not the case currently.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are 
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I 
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update, 
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice 
 per region.
 Victor
 
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Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Howell
Fair enough, but I guess there are some who would actually believe this. Now is 
that crazy or what? :)

On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I know I know, I was speculating  on the bit described between going early 
 as-is and going late, done right;  this was the last thread we were looking 
 at.  I don't normally bother explaining tongue.in.cheek jokes.
 
 R!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back
 
 
 Oh don't' be ridiculous! The sex of the CEO would have nothing to do with 
 the success or perception there of. The CEO depends on those in marketing to 
 promote the product and depends on the engineers and designers to create the 
 wow factor. People tend to set certain expectations and if APple fails to 
 meet those expectations, then APple is considered to no longer be 
 innovative. Innovation is a double edged sword and APple has created a 
 damned if you do and damned if you don't world for themselves. Do not 
 forget that there are varying degrees of innovation as well. I think maybe 
 this version of the iPhone was more innovative in terms of design and 
 changes to the internal hardware. The OS brought a lot of changes, but many 
 were not necessarily innovative or revolutionary as evolutionary. The other 
 manufacturers are finally catching up and trying to innovate as APple has 
 for years. THe problem is some of these competitors are bringing untried 
 technologies to the table such as NFC which has a rather low adoption rate 
 at this point and some real security issues that have yet to be addressed. 
 So, neat stuff, but not ready for primetime either. Also keep in mind that 
 APple tends to see how folks react to some of these new technologies and may 
 not be the first to put it out there, but will ensure once they do it works 
 better than ever.
 Lots of things to take into consideration, so you cannot just look at one 
 thing and oh the sex of the CEO just is not a real factor.
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 This is a guy and gal thing;  a guy will be on time even if he has to come
 as he is;  a gal will be late and insist on arriving looking her best. 
 You
 only get one shot to make the right impression, iOs6 might have done the 
 guy
 thing instead of the gal thing. If apple got themselves a woman CEO, I
 wonder if this would be the result?
 
 R!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back
 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 I'm sure you understand that, in today's technology, deadlines are the 
 most
 important thing around.  In business, if people expect something in
 September, that when they want it and business has to provide.  A month
 before IOS 6 came out, everyone was speculating as to what would be and 
 were
 really expecting IOS 6 to be out on time.  Apple had to bring it out even 
 if
 they knew that it wasn't polished just like automobile manufacturers will
 put out a car with known problems but would rather deal with a recall than
 to hold the production beyond the expected deadline for release.
 
 
 
 If you remember Windows 95 and all the others after, they all came out 
 with
 serious bugs but they came out on time as announced and bugs were 
 corrected
 after and everyone lived with that.  That's the way that big business 
 works
 
 
 
 
 I think we need to give Apple a couple of months to see how they deal with
 the after release and then I will agree or not with your statements. 
 After
 all, IOS 6 is only a week old and I am positive that engineers at Apple 
 are
 working around the clock to fix things that don't work and implement new
 ones.  I'm sure Apple wants to stay on top and I'm sure they know how to 
 do
 it.  They just need time and that is something we, as users, are not 
 giving
 them.  We want better and faster than what can be done and why!  Only a 
 few
 short years ago, we as blind people, didn't even have access to anything
 else on our cell phones than dial and answer.  We were complaining about
 things as simple as buttons being too small to dial easily and audio
 quality.  Now we complain about how long it takes to delete a message when
 ,a very short while ago, we didn't even have access to that message.  We
 even had to ask for sighted help to put contacts in our phones because we
 couldn't do it ourselves.
 
 
 
 That is not to say that we should stop pushing for better access and 
 better
 things but we should be a little more patient as to how quickly it should
 come.  All week, I have been following this list and read a lot more
 complaints about what wasn't working quite right than I read of things 
 that
 are great innovations making room for 

Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Marianne Denning
I have Samantha as my default voice but I do something (I don't know
what) and Karen begins talking.  I think my phone has a split
personality.  I like it that way so haven't bothered to find out why
it happens.

On 9/27/12, Andrew Head coldeskim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Who's karen's grumpier sister? I am from Australia so Karen is our default
 voice and I agree she is much better than Samantha, whether she is in high
 quality or not. *smile*

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joe
 Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 9:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Using the Australian voice as default

 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default

 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ
 voices
 very quickly.

 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but
 this
 is not the case currently.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update,
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice
 per region.
 Victor

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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Aser Tolentino
I have never been able to get this to work, even with a full on restore from 
iTunes. It's like the phone ditches everything except the HQ American English 
voice. :(

Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.

On 27/09/2012, at 4:31 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 I have Samantha as my default voice but I do something (I don't know
 what) and Karen begins talking.  I think my phone has a split
 personality.  I like it that way so haven't bothered to find out why
 it happens.
 
 On 9/27/12, Andrew Head coldeskim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Who's karen's grumpier sister? I am from Australia so Karen is our default
 voice and I agree she is much better than Samantha, whether she is in high
 quality or not. *smile*
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joe
 Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 9:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ
 voices
 very quickly.
 
 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but
 this
 is not the case currently.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update,
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice
 per region.
 Victor
 
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Phone accessory: Question:

2012-09-27 Thread Don Moore
I'd like to purchase a couple of the adapters that plug into the 110 volt AC 
service and connect to the iPhone 4S power cord?

What exactly do they call this part and where's a good place to get it?

Thanks in advance. 

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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, a restore from iTunes is going to take yu back to Samantha I would think 
unless you already had the hq voice ffor Australia and used tha backup.

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On Sep 27, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Aser Tolentino agtolent...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have never been able to get this to work, even with a full on restore from 
 iTunes. It's like the phone ditches everything except the HQ American English 
 voice. :(
 
 Respectfully,
 Aser Tolentino, Esq.
 
 On 27/09/2012, at 4:31 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:
 
 I have Samantha as my default voice but I do something (I don't know
 what) and Karen begins talking.  I think my phone has a split
 personality.  I like it that way so haven't bothered to find out why
 it happens.
 
 On 9/27/12, Andrew Head coldeskim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Who's karen's grumpier sister? I am from Australia so Karen is our default
 voice and I agree she is much better than Samantha, whether she is in high
 quality or not. *smile*
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joe
 Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 9:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ
 voices
 very quickly.
 
 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but
 this
 is not the case currently.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update,
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice
 per region.
 Victor
 
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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Samantha is the grumpier sister! And even though she has improved somewhat, I 
still think she tends to sound grumpy.

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(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Andrew Head coldeskim...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who's karen's grumpier sister? I am from Australia so Karen is our default
 voice and I agree she is much better than Samantha, whether she is in high
 quality or not. *smile*
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joe
 Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 9:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ voices
 very quickly.
 
 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but this
 is not the case currently.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are 
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I 
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update, 
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice 
 per region.
 Victor
 
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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You are probably accidentally opperating in the language rotor; I have done 
that.

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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
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On Sep 27, 2012, at 6:31 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 I have Samantha as my default voice but I do something (I don't know
 what) and Karen begins talking.  I think my phone has a split
 personality.  I like it that way so haven't bothered to find out why
 it happens.
 
 On 9/27/12, Andrew Head coldeskim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Who's karen's grumpier sister? I am from Australia so Karen is our default
 voice and I agree she is much better than Samantha, whether she is in high
 quality or not. *smile*
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joe
 Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 9:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ
 voices
 very quickly.
 
 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but
 this
 is not the case currently.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update,
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice
 per region.
 Victor
 
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siri

2012-09-27 Thread Ming
hello all,
when we are in locked  screen status and use siri, we can still access our info 
such as contacts infousing siri. if we  intergrated  with face book and 
twitter. we also can post things to face book and twitter and access our info 
as well.
other then that. we also can view our notes, and other things in locked  screen 
using siri.
the problem is: when we lost our I phone. and strangers get  it. othehr people  
also can access our info   or do text messaging to our friend, post to face 
book in locked  screen status. using siri. although  we have set a password to 
unlock the screen. but, people still can access it using siri.
it is a very series issue. hope it can be fix soon.

Ming
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chungchiming9950

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Word processing app

2012-09-27 Thread cnmyhand
Are there any that work with VO?

Inez, Celeste N. MyHand's iPhone 
If it is to be, it is up to me.

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Re: Still trouble with email

2012-09-27 Thread Ng Choon Hwee
Hi, in settings and fetch new data, make sure that push and fetch are all 
disabled. In the fetch new data section, double tap advance and make sure that 
all mail accounts are set to manual. 

Ng Choon Hwee

On 27 Sep, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hi, 
 I have an iPod touch 4 and an iPhone 4 S. 
 Both have push turned off and check for mail manually.  On the iPod touch it 
 does what it is supposed to do but my iPhone still checks for email. 
 What could be the reason for this and how do I fix it? 
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Re: Triple Click VO off during a call

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Will muting your phone with the switch on the left side take care of this? I 
know muting doesn't silence voiceover but will it keep the announcements from 
coming through on a call. If so, it would be a lot easier to just flip that 
switch when on the phone instead of turning voiceover off.

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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess I'm the only one who ever used this feature?
 
 Any insights?  Thoughts?  I thought others used it during calls too?
 Maybe I was wrong?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Katey
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 From: Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:53:10 -0400
 Subject: Triple Click VO off during a call
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Hello all,
 
 I'm using an iPhone 4S running iOS 6.0 and while on iOS 5 I was able
 to use VO to engage a call and then once the call was connected use
 the tripple click home to turn VO off during a call to prevent it from
 reading my texts into my ear during a call.
 
 Now however, when I do this once the call has engaged it throws the
 call to speaker even with my ear on the phone itself.  So I press home
 again 3 times and it is still in speaker mode but VO turnes off.  I
 then have to press the speaker button on my screen, which I can see as
 I have a little vision.  But, why does this happen and is it happening
 to anyone else?
 
 Thanks
 
 Katey
 
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Re: ICloud.com Email address added to my Apple ID

2012-09-27 Thread Ng Choon Hwee


I believe apple is migrating customers from @ me to @ icloud .com. After 
receiving the same message and accepting the new email address, my @me account 
disappeared. Ng Choon Hwee

On 27 Sep, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I happened to reset the settings on my iPhone today and then got the
 strangest of popups. The message stated that a new Email address had
 been added to my Apple ID. The Email address bares the same alias as
 the one I signed up for when I created an iCloud account. That one was
 @me.com, and this new one is @icloud.com. I certainly never created an
 address @icloud.com recently and what's more, the address isn't
 valid--mail to it is bounced.
 
 What do you think could be going on?
 
 Grant
 
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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
Cheryl,, how do you get default voice immediately? Don't you have to wait for 
the Australian Karen to download?

Reggie and Brooks


On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

Because just choosing the Australian voice in the rotor only gives the compact 
voice which, at lleast to my ears, has a hissing or white noise sound as she 
starts or stops speaking. The only way to get the hq voice is to make it the 
default so that the Australian hq voice replaces the hq voice for your former 
default.
-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
 cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
 not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
 to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
 international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
 and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
 suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
 the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
 her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
 though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
 option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
 but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
 the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
 rodar, grin.
 
 Jmt,
 Wayne
 
 On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
 international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if you want
 the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you will have to be patient
 because it doesn't download the hq voice right away apparently. I ended up
 resetting my phone but it sounds like if you just give it time and maybe
 even lock the screen and put it on your charger for a while, the hq voice
 should eventually download. I haven't had any issues with having Australia
 chosen in Format Region except that siri has given me a couple of pieces of
 data in kilometers. But somebody said weather was in Celcius; that hasn't
 happened to me however. Just keep in mind that if you switch back the hq
 Samantha has tao download again so you have to wait for that to happen.
 Personally I plan to stick with Karen unless I uncover a major problem
 caused by using her.
 
 
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ
 voices
 very quickly.
 
 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but
 this
 is not the case currently.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update,
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice
 per region.
 Victor
 
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Re: siri

2012-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
You can already turn off that feature. 
Go to settings, general, pass code lock, put in your code so you can change 
settings and is you flick through the options you will find a section called 
Access When Lock. The first one is Siri double tap is to off. 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. — 
Jane Wagner
(Sent from an iPhone 4s)


On Sep 27, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

 hello all,
 when we are in locked  screen status and use siri, we can still access our 
 info such as contacts infousing siri. if we  intergrated  with face book and 
 twitter. we also can post things to face book and twitter and access our info 
 as well.
 other then that. we also can view our notes, and other things in locked  
 screen using siri.
 the problem is: when we lost our I phone. and strangers get  it. othehr 
 people  also can access our info   or do text messaging to our friend, post 
 to face book in locked  screen status. using siri. although  we have set a 
 password to unlock the screen. but, people still can access it using siri.
 it is a very series issue. hope it can be fix soon.
 
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Earpods question

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The earpods from the iPhone 5 came in a case. Is this case actually meant for 
carryint the earpods and if so, is it actually possible to get them back in the 
case. If so, I may need directions (I know that sounds ridiculous!) as I'm kind 
of cord-and-cable challenged. I'd kind of like to use the case but getting the 
earpods back in looks daunting to me. Okay, everybody, it's okay to have your 
laught for the day at my expense :-) Cheryl can run computers and iPhones but a 
pair of earpods and a case brings her to ruin!


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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
How do you set them in the rotor so you can just ask for them? When I went to 
language rotor it was the compact voice and not the high quality voice  step by 
step how to please and thanks.

Reggie and Brooks


On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
rodar, grin.

Jmt,
Wayne

On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
 international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if you want
 the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you will have to be patient
 because it doesn't download the hq voice right away apparently. I ended up
 resetting my phone but it sounds like if you just give it time and maybe
 even lock the screen and put it on your charger for a while, the hq voice
 should eventually download. I haven't had any issues with having Australia
 chosen in Format Region except that siri has given me a couple of pieces of
 data in kilometers. But somebody said weather was in Celcius; that hasn't
 happened to me however. Just keep in mind that if you switch back the hq
 Samantha has tao download again so you have to wait for that to happen.
 Personally I plan to stick with Karen unless I uncover a major problem
 caused by using her.
 
 
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ
 voices
 very quickly.
 
 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but
 this
 is not the case currently.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update,
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice
 per region.
 Victor
 
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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You can get the Australian voice immediately by changing the voice in settings 
 General  International  format region, but the voice will be the compact 
one so turning compact voice off and on will show no change in the voice you 
hear though it will now be Australian. So Australian will be your default at 
that point but you will only be able to access the compact voice until the hq 
voice downloads. Also, even if Australian is default, if you set another voice 
in the language rotor, you will of course hear that voice but it won't become 
the default.

Hope this helps.



-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:48 AM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cheryl,, how do you get default voice immediately? Don't you have to wait for 
 the Australian Karen to download?
 
 Reggie and Brooks
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Because just choosing the Australian voice in the rotor only gives the 
 compact voice which, at lleast to my ears, has a hissing or white noise sound 
 as she starts or stops speaking. The only way to get the hq voice is to make 
 it the default so that the Australian hq voice replaces the hq voice for your 
 former default.
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
 cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
 not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
 to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
 international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
 and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
 suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
 the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
 her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
 though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
 option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
 but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
 the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
 rodar, grin.
 
 Jmt,
 Wayne
 
 On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
 international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if you want
 the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you will have to be patient
 because it doesn't download the hq voice right away apparently. I ended up
 resetting my phone but it sounds like if you just give it time and maybe
 even lock the screen and put it on your charger for a while, the hq voice
 should eventually download. I haven't had any issues with having Australia
 chosen in Format Region except that siri has given me a couple of pieces of
 data in kilometers. But somebody said weather was in Celcius; that hasn't
 happened to me however. Just keep in mind that if you switch back the hq
 Samantha has tao download again so you have to wait for that to happen.
 Personally I plan to stick with Karen unless I uncover a major problem
 caused by using her.
 
 
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 The problem is that each HQ voice is a couple hundred MB. If a person is
 running an 8 GB iOS device, the memory would fill up with just the HQ
 voices
 very quickly.
 
 It would be nice if Apple would allow us to select multiple voices, but
 this
 is not the case currently.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 26/09/2012, at 15:54, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am using an ipod 4g so Siri differences in the region settings are
 not important to me. In fact, having my settings in metric is what I
 prefer anyway.
 I hope this is something that can be fixed in a future update,
 allowing more choice of voices and even hopefully more than one choice
 per region.
 Victor
 
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2012-09-27 Thread Ramy Moustafa


Hi all:

I am using the arabic language with my default english language, hwo can I
know if I have an hq version for arabic language? And,  how can I get it?
 
Til now, I failed to load the hq voice for english.

Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers:
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RE: Word processing app

2012-09-27 Thread Harmony Neil
Pages works well. It does cost  or 7$, but still.

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Subject: Word processing app

Are there any that work with VO?

Inez, Celeste N. MyHand's iPhone 
If it is to be, it is up to me.

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Re: Earpods question

2012-09-27 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Cheryl,

One would believe that the case is supposed to be kept and retained for the 
purpose of keeping your EarPods in good order… For me they are a blessing, 
although I prefer the sound on my Bose headset, having something neat and tidy 
to keep my earphones within, that I can keep in a pocket without getting all 
tangled up is wonderful.

Coming to your point, I can successfully and pretty easily remove and replace 
my EarPods without difficulty.

The key is remembering that the microphone and separate lead go through the 
middle on the second or so turn around the case… you have to put the lead 
without the microphone on it through first, and then place the microphone on 
top of that face up.

Then continue to wrap the cable around the unit… Then gently place the lid over 
the top of that.
On 27 Sep 2012, at 13:51, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 The earpods from the iPhone 5 came in a case. Is this case actually meant for 
 carryint the earpods and if so, is it actually possible to get them back in 
 the case. If so, I may need directions (I know that sounds ridiculous!) as 
 I'm kind of cord-and-cable challenged. I'd kind of like to use the case but 
 getting the earpods back in looks daunting to me. Okay, everybody, it's okay 
 to have your laught for the day at my expense :-) Cheryl can run computers 
 and iPhones but a pair of earpods and a case brings her to ruin!
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 
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Re: Triple Click VO off during a call

2012-09-27 Thread Kimber Gardner
I've used this method of turning off vo during a call. But since
upgrading to ios6 I've seen some strange behavior. I haven't figured
out a pattern yet as you seem to have done, but I am seeing some weird
behavior.

Kimber

On 9/26/12, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm using an iPhone 4S running iOS 6.0 and while on iOS 5 I was able
 to use VO to engage a call and then once the call was connected use
 the tripple click home to turn VO off during a call to prevent it from
 reading my texts into my ear during a call.

 Now however, when I do this once the call has engaged it throws the
 call to speaker even with my ear on the phone itself.  So I press home
 again 3 times and it is still in speaker mode but VO turnes off.  I
 then have to press the speaker button on my screen, which I can see as
 I have a little vision.  But, why does this happen and is it happening
 to anyone else?

 Thanks

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Re: downloading hq voices for other languages.

2012-09-27 Thread Ming
hi,
I think the HQ voices only for the default language.


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--- 2012年9月28日 星期五,Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com 寫道﹕

 寄件人: Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 主題: downloading hq voices for other languages.
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2012年9月28日,星期五,下午9:04
 
 
 Hi all:
 
 I am using the arabic language with my default english
 language, hwo can I
 know if I have an hq version for arabic language? And, 
 how can I get it?
  
 Til now, I failed to load the hq voice for english.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help
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Re: siri

2012-09-27 Thread Ming
yes.
but, it is very good when we need to find something quickly.
sometime I  don't wanna turn off siri.
but, if it just have limit access in locked screen should be better 

Ming
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--- 2012年9月27日 星期四,Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com 寫道﹕

 寄件人: Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
 主題: Re: siri
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2012年9月27日,星期四,下午8:45
 You can already turn off that
 feature. 
 Go to settings, general, pass code lock, put in your code so
 you can change settings and is you flick through the options
 you will find a section called Access When Lock. The first
 one is Siri double tap is to off. 
 
 Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in
 touch with it. -- Jane Wagner
 (Sent from an iPhone 4s)
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk
 wrote:
 
  hello all,
  when we are in locked  screen status and use siri,
 we can still access our info such as contacts infousing
 siri. if we  intergrated  with face book and
 twitter. we also can post things to face book and twitter
 and access our info as well.
  other then that. we also can view our notes, and other
 things in locked  screen using siri.
  the problem is: when we lost our I phone. and strangers
 get  it. othehr people  also can access our
 info   or do text messaging to our friend,
 post to face book in locked  screen status. using siri.
 although  we have set a password to unlock the screen.
 but, people still can access it using siri.
  it is a very series issue. hope it can be fix soon.
  
  Ming
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voxy question

2012-09-27 Thread Moop Curran
Hi,
Does voxy recorder  work with dropbox?
Courtney


Tune into my show,  moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM 
Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. 
Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. 

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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Suzanne Wilson
Hi,

I have the Australian voice selected in my language rotor and hear no 
difference when I toggle the compact voice onn and off.  How do I know if I 
have actually downloaded the premium voice?

Suzanne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default


  You can get the Australian voice immediately by changing the voice in 
settings  General  International  format region, but the voice will be the 
compact one so turning compact voice off and on will show no change in the 
voice you hear though it will now be Australian. So Australian will be your 
default at that point but you will only be able to access the compact voice 
until the hq voice downloads. Also, even if Australian is default, if you set 
another voice in the language rotor, you will of course hear that voice but it 
won't become the default.


  Hope this helps.






  -- 
  Cheryl


  May the words of my mouth
  and the meditation of my heart
  be acceptable to You, Lord,
  my rock and my Redeemer.
  (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





  On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:48 AM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:


Cheryl,, how do you get default voice immediately? Don't you have to wait 
for the Australian Karen to download?

Reggie and Brooks



On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:


Because just choosing the Australian voice in the rotor only gives the 
compact voice which, at lleast to my ears, has a hissing or white noise sound 
as she starts or stops speaking. The only way to get the hq voice is to make it 
the default so that the Australian hq voice replaces the hq voice for your 
former default.

-- 
Cheryl


May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:


  I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
  cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
  not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
  to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
  international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
  and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
  suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
  the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
  her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
  though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
  option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
  but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
  the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
  rodar, grin.

  Jmt,
  Wayne

  On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if you 
want
the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you will have to be patient
because it doesn't download the hq voice right away apparently. I ended 
up
resetting my phone but it sounds like if you just give it time and maybe
even lock the screen and put it on your charger for a while, the hq 
voice
should eventually download. I haven't had any issues with having 
Australia
chosen in Format Region except that siri has given me a couple of 
pieces of
data in kilometers. But somebody said weather was in Celcius; that 
hasn't
happened to me however. Just keep in mind that if you switch back the hq
Samantha has tao download again so you have to wait for that to happen.
Personally I plan to stick with Karen unless I uncover a major problem
caused by using her.



--
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:


  Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
  Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, 
not
  unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf
  Of David Chittenden
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default

  The problem is that each HQ voice is a 

RE: i o s and visually impaired users

2012-09-27 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hey Jim,

The IPhone has been digging into the Blackberry market like you wouldn't
believe.  Up until now, Blackberry has been holding the business market and
the IPhone was seen as being for the rest of us.  Of course, as a Canadian I
am a little sad that Blackberry, one of our biggest companies, is losing a
big part of the market.  Don't be surprised that the media and other big
companies, huge Blackberry users, will bash anything that disturbs their
comfort zone just like we, as blind users, have been complaining about the
changes in IOS 6.  It is change and, no matter how good it is, it disturbs
people and spills a lot of ink.
Let's be positive and wait a bit and watch Apple float up to the top just as
they have in the past.  They have the technology, the money and the desire
to do that.  After all, it only makes good business sense.

I think that this list is the best representative of our users and we need
to be positive, continue to report bugs to a company that, up until now, has
been listening to us.  Finally, we have some power and we need to use it
wisely.

Ron  Danvers

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Mannion
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users

Using it is no problem and I think over all it is an upgrade. I can't help
but wonder if the reason it was covered was because it was another
opportunity to put a negative spin on the IPhone and things related by the
media. The media and the press, in my view, they seem to absolutely hate the
IPhone. They hate its success and they are doing everything they can to turn
the tide against it. Sure you can find a few positive articles, but they are
from a specific collection of people and sources. So they found what they
could present as another trashing opportunity.

Jim

On 9/26/12, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have no problems as well navigating the App Store   I find it easy using
 it.

 Margaret


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App 
 store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really 
 like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like
change.
 :)

 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote:

 Hello, first off. I don't find the app store any harder to use with 
 voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always 
 say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they 
 are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to 
 use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they 
 can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can 
 just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app 
 store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over
it.

 JMO

 Ed
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was 
 posted by apple insider.
 It talks about app store and voice over.
 Read the article and read some of the coments.
 Great  to see this.
 Hit enter on the link below.
 Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade 
 http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-s
 ay-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade

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Re: Earpods question

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thanks, I will try this. Also, can you specify which Bose headphones you are 
using; the different kinds look a little confusing on the website. I have the 
noise cancelling ones, but those don't work with the iPhone and in any case i 
have to be careful where i use the noise cancelling ones.

Thanks.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com 
wrote:

 Cheryl,
 
 One would believe that the case is supposed to be kept and retained for the 
 purpose of keeping your EarPods in good order… For me they are a blessing, 
 although I prefer the sound on my Bose headset, having something neat and 
 tidy to keep my earphones within, that I can keep in a pocket without getting 
 all tangled up is wonderful.
 
 Coming to your point, I can successfully and pretty easily remove and replace 
 my EarPods without difficulty.
 
 The key is remembering that the microphone and separate lead go through the 
 middle on the second or so turn around the case… you have to put the lead 
 without the microphone on it through first, and then place the microphone on 
 top of that face up.
 
 Then continue to wrap the cable around the unit… Then gently place the lid 
 over the top of that.
 On 27 Sep 2012, at 13:51, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The earpods from the iPhone 5 came in a case. Is this case actually meant 
 for carryint the earpods and if so, is it actually possible to get them back 
 in the case. If so, I may need directions (I know that sounds ridiculous!) 
 as I'm kind of cord-and-cable challenged. I'd kind of like to use the case 
 but getting the earpods back in looks daunting to me. Okay, everybody, it's 
 okay to have your laught for the day at my expense :-) Cheryl can run 
 computers and iPhones but a pair of earpods and a case brings her to ruin!
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 
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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Have you also changed to Australian in Settings  General  International  
format region? You have to do this. If you hear no difference either they don't 
sound different to you or the hq voice is not yet downloaded. I don't think 
there's anything that confirms to you that the hq voice is downloaded except 
the difference in sound.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Suzanne Wilson suzannemwil...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I have the Australian voice selected in my language rotor and hear no 
 difference when I toggle the compact voice onn and off.  How do I know if I 
 have actually downloaded the premium voice?
  
 Suzanne
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 You can get the Australian voice immediately by changing the voice in 
 settings  General  International  format region, but the voice will be the 
 compact one so turning compact voice off and on will show no change in the 
 voice you hear though it will now be Australian. So Australian will be your 
 default at that point but you will only be able to access the compact voice 
 until the hq voice downloads. Also, even if Australian is default, if you set 
 another voice in the language rotor, you will of course hear that voice but 
 it won't become the default.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:48 AM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Cheryl,, how do you get default voice immediately? Don't you have to wait 
 for the Australian Karen to download?
 
 Reggie and Brooks
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Because just choosing the Australian voice in the rotor only gives the 
 compact voice which, at lleast to my ears, has a hissing or white noise 
 sound as she starts or stops speaking. The only way to get the hq voice is 
 to make it the default so that the Australian hq voice replaces the hq voice 
 for your former default.
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
 cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
 not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
 to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
 international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
 and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
 suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
 the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
 her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
 though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
 option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
 but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
 the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
 rodar, grin.
 
 Jmt,
 Wayne
 
 On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
 international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if you want
 the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you will have to be patient
 because it doesn't download the hq voice right away apparently. I ended up
 resetting my phone but it sounds like if you just give it time and maybe
 even lock the screen and put it on your charger for a while, the hq voice
 should eventually download. I haven't had any issues with having Australia
 chosen in Format Region except that siri has given me a couple of pieces of
 data in kilometers. But somebody said weather was in Celcius; that hasn't
 happened to me however. Just keep in mind that if you switch back the hq
 Samantha has tao download again so you have to wait for that to happen.
 Personally I plan to stick with Karen unless I uncover a major problem
 caused by using her.
 
 
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just to be sure, I can't use Karen in the United States, right? The HQ
 Australian chick? Samantha's okay, but Karen's smoother on the ears, not
 unlike her grumpier sister. Thanks foor the info.--Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 

RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

2012-09-27 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hey Rob,

Sorry I can't agree with you.  This is a business decision and I further
think that gender has no placein this. A good business decision is a
good business decision no matter the gender of the person making it.

Ron  Danvers


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

This is a guy and gal thing;  a guy will be on time even if he has to come
as he is;  a gal will be late and insist on arriving looking her best.  You
only get one shot to make the right impression, iOs6 might have done the guy
thing instead of the gal thing. If apple got themselves a woman CEO, I
wonder if this would be the result?

R!
- Original Message -
From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20 PM
Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back


Hi,



I'm sure you understand that, in today's technology, deadlines are the most
important thing around.  In business, if people expect something in
September, that when they want it and business has to provide.  A month
before IOS 6 came out, everyone was speculating as to what would be and were
really expecting IOS 6 to be out on time.  Apple had to bring it out even if
they knew that it wasn't polished just like automobile manufacturers will
put out a car with known problems but would rather deal with a recall than
to hold the production beyond the expected deadline for release.



If you remember Windows 95 and all the others after, they all came out with
serious bugs but they came out on time as announced and bugs were corrected
after and everyone lived with that.  That's the way that big business works




I think we need to give Apple a couple of months to see how they deal with
the after release and then I will agree or not with your statements.  After
all, IOS 6 is only a week old and I am positive that engineers at Apple are
working around the clock to fix things that don't work and implement new
ones.  I'm sure Apple wants to stay on top and I'm sure they know how to do
it.  They just need time and that is something we, as users, are not giving
them.  We want better and faster than what can be done and why!  Only a few
short years ago, we as blind people, didn't even have access to anything
else on our cell phones than dial and answer.  We were complaining about
things as simple as buttons being too small to dial easily and audio
quality.  Now we complain about how long it takes to delete a message when
,a very short while ago, we didn't even have access to that message.  We
even had to ask for sighted help to put contacts in our phones because we
couldn't do it ourselves.



That is not to say that we should stop pushing for better access and better
things but we should be a little more patient as to how quickly it should
come.  All week, I have been following this list and read a lot more
complaints about what wasn't working quite right than I read of things that
are great innovations making room for more improvements.



I'm sure that, within the next few weeks, a lot of small bugs that I've read
about here in the past week will be corrected and we will already be
wondering what IOS 7 will bring.  We are just never happy with what we have.



Ron  Danvers





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back




The iPhone 5 is an incredible smartphone. I've been using mine since it
arrived on my doorstep at 7:48 p.m. the day after launch day (after a
painfully long wait), and I love it. It's spectacularly thin and light, it's
beautiful - like most Apple products - and that larger display is such a
welcome improvement.


I chose the white and silver model - I've had white iPhones for as long as
they've been available - and I think it's the prettiest gadget I've ever
owned. It's also powerful, and noticeably faster than my already snappy
iPhone 4S. Its battery life is excellent, and so is the camera.

Overall, I have a long list of positive things to say about the iPhone 5 -
the hardware is just unbeatable. But I think there's one thing letting it
down, and that's iOS 6.



Before I jump in and tell you why iOS 6 is letting down the iPhone 5, let me
just make one thing clear: I love iOS. It's by far the most polished mobile
platform there is, and it's been my OS of choice since its debut with the
original iPhone.

iOS just works - in so many ways. Its ability to sync with iTunes and
iPhoto, and all the benefits that iCloud brings, make it a perfect companion
for Mac users like me. It's super simple to use - even my granddad's using
it - and the catalog of third-party apps available on iOS is second to none.

But 

RE: Triple Click Home Default

2012-09-27 Thread Ron Pelletier
Keep in mind that when you think that a device is just out of the box it
is not necessarily true.  Often it is just out of the box for you but it has
been just out of the box for someone else before you  and maybe just out of
the box for someone else before that.  

Ron  Danvers

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rich Cavallaro
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Triple Click Home Default

That is odd.
When I got my 5 on launch day, I took it out of the box.
I was able to use triple click home and voiceover came up with no issues at
all.
How odd.
Rich Cavallaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of PHILLIP TRACY
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Triple Click Home Default

No sir, that was the first thing I attempted after being unsuccessful so I
had the store person verify that triple click home was indeed not set on
this iPhone 5.
I was truly shocked because it had not been touched, he handed it straight
out of the box to me while he left to get my otter box defender. All my Iowa
iPhone friends have also reported mixed results, all of them having had
iPhones since they started coming with VoiceOver.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The volume was probably turned down.  This is not hardware specific.  
 So,
I'm pretty sure your phone had this capability.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It must be for some, and not for others.  I got both my 4s and 5 in 
 the
mail, and had to have my wife turn voice over on.  Upon taking it out of the
box, I tried triple click home, and got nothing.
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 no. This was introduced in IOS 5 last year.  The reason you had to 
 go
into settings and set it up yourself is because, your device was set up at
the store.  You must use VO at the setup process for tripple press home to
be on by default.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Regina Alvarado
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Unless it has changed in iPhone 5, I had to go into settings and 
 set triple home myself.  In the store they put VO on, but I could 
 only interrupt it, not turn it off and on until I did this.
 Reggie
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Triple Click Home Default
 
 Hi,
 
 Triple click home works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I recently ordered my shiny new iPhone 5 from Apple and am 
 anxiously
 awaiting its arrival. My question is, when a brand new phone is 
 unboxed, does the Triple Click Home function default to turning on 
 VoiceOver, or will I need to connect the new phone to the PC in 
 order to activate it with my carrier and then restore from the 
 backup, or will I be able to do all the setup right on the phone 
 and
restore from my iCloud backup?
 Thanks in advance for all help.
 Regards, Paula
 
 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Suzanne Wilson
Does changing the international settings then mean you can't use location 
features in your own country?  In other words, will SIRI still know where I 
live and be able to give me directions or will that be lost?  I live in the US 
and happen to like the Australian voice much better than the American one, but 
I would still like to be able to use SIRI.  Thanks.

Suzanne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default


  Have you also changed to Australian in Settings  General  International  
format region? You have to do this. If you hear no difference either they don't 
sound different to you or the hq voice is not yet downloaded. I don't think 
there's anything that confirms to you that the hq voice is downloaded except 
the difference in sound.


  -- 
  Cheryl


  May the words of my mouth
  and the meditation of my heart
  be acceptable to You, Lord,
  my rock and my Redeemer.
  (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





  On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Suzanne Wilson suzannemwil...@comcast.net 
wrote:


Hi,

I have the Australian voice selected in my language rotor and hear no 
difference when I toggle the compact voice onn and off.  How do I know if I 
have actually downloaded the premium voice?

Suzanne

  - Original Message -
  From: Cheryl Homiak
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default


  You can get the Australian voice immediately by changing the voice in 
settings  General  International  format region, but the voice will be the 
compact one so turning compact voice off and on will show no change in the 
voice you hear though it will now be Australian. So Australian will be your 
default at that point but you will only be able to access the compact voice 
until the hq voice downloads. Also, even if Australian is default, if you set 
another voice in the language rotor, you will of course hear that voice but it 
won't become the default.


  Hope this helps.






  -- 
  Cheryl


  May the words of my mouth
  and the meditation of my heart
  be acceptable to You, Lord,
  my rock and my Redeemer.
  (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





  On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:48 AM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:


Cheryl,, how do you get default voice immediately? Don't you have to 
wait for the Australian Karen to download?

Reggie and Brooks



On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:


Because just choosing the Australian voice in the rotor only gives the 
compact voice which, at lleast to my ears, has a hissing or white noise sound 
as she starts or stops speaking. The only way to get the hq voice is to make it 
the default so that the Australian hq voice replaces the hq voice for your 
former default.

-- 
Cheryl


May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:


  I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
  cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
  not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
  to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
  international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
  and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
  suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
  the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
  her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
  though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
  option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
  but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
  the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
  rodar, grin.

  Jmt,
  Wayne

  On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if 
you want
the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you will have to be 
patient
because it doesn't download the hq voice right away apparently. I 
ended up
resetting my phone but it sounds like if you just give it time and 
maybe
even lock the screen and put it on your charger for a while, the hq 
voice
should eventually 

Re: i o s and visually impaired users

2012-09-27 Thread goshawk on horseback
personally, the only problem I have had with the new look app store, is when 
it has a load of search results to display. where as in the old app store, 
it used to have a show how ever many more feature if there were a lot of 
results to display, now the new one tries to display all of the results at 
once, which has caused an about 10 second delay, and has sometimes caused 
the app store app to close.
apart from this, I have also had no problems with the new app store.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users


I have no problems as well navigating the App Store   I find it easy using 
it.

Margaret


Sent from my iPhone

On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App 
 store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like 
 the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. 
 :)

 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote:

 Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with 
 voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say 
 that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used 
 to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with 
 the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make 
 improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it 
 over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am 
 not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it.

 JMO

 Ed
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was
 posted by apple insider.
 It talks about app store and voice over.
 Read the article and read some of the coments.
 Great  to see this.
 Hit enter on the link below.
 Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade
 http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade

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RE: Triple Click VO off during a call

2012-09-27 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

Why bother with the triple home to turn off VO which is a bit still shaky
and not just use the 3 finger double tap to turn off speech without turning
off VO.

Ron  Danvers
  in IOS6

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Triple Click VO off during a call

I've used this method of turning off vo during a call. But since upgrading
to ios6 I've seen some strange behavior. I haven't figured out a pattern yet
as you seem to have done, but I am seeing some weird behavior.

Kimber

On 9/26/12, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm using an iPhone 4S running iOS 6.0 and while on iOS 5 I was able 
 to use VO to engage a call and then once the call was connected use 
 the tripple click home to turn VO off during a call to prevent it from 
 reading my texts into my ear during a call.

 Now however, when I do this once the call has engaged it throws the 
 call to speaker even with my ear on the phone itself.  So I press home 
 again 3 times and it is still in speaker mode but VO turnes off.  I 
 then have to press the speaker button on my screen, which I can see as 
 I have a little vision.  But, why does this happen and is it happening 
 to anyone else?

 Thanks

 Katey

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RE: Waking up with music - the Sonos alternative

2012-09-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Scott,

 

I can only recommend it. Only thing is that Airplay isn't natively supported
by Sonos, but if you have an Airport Express you can easily Airplay enable
your Sonos system by connecting your Airport Express to your Sonos player
with an Ethernet cable as well as a 3.5mm male to RCA male cable (there are
a few more settings involved, but it's possible and works perfectly well).
Sonos is sold by some retailers and, if you decide to order from them
directly they do ship for free in the States and offer I think it's a 30-day
money back guaranty. I don't own a Play:3, but I do have a Play:5 which
sounds great, the same goes for the Connect:Amp and the basic Connect which
I think in the States is $349 is also good if you want to have Sonos
available on an existing stereo or home theatre system.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waking up with music - the Sonos alternative

 

You know I want to go check one of the Sonos systems out because I have
heard so many good things about them. I know they are not cheap, but
apparently the sound is as good as or better than the Bose Sound Dock or
whatever they call it. If the app is fully accessible it makes it even
better.

 

On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:





Hi Courtney,

 

If you are ever in the market for a good quality boombox or multi-room audio
system give Sonos a try. The Sonos app is fully accessible and you can wake
up to anything you want, any song, album, a playlist you make, any of the
thousands of internet radio stations like those you'd find on Ootunes or
Tune In or any music subscription you may have like Spotify, Rdio, Slacker,
Rhapsody etc. You can tell Sonos to start playing at whatever time you want,
you can set as many alarms as you want, a different one for each day, the
same for Monday to Friday etc. You can also tell the system to play for 30
minutes, 60 minutes and so on after it starts after which time it stops
automatically and if you have multiple Sonos players in the house you can
play only in one room or 2 or on any player in the house.The music starts
out at low volume and graduately reaches the volume level you specified. The
least expensive way to get into a Sonos system would be with a Play:3 player
which is $299. You'd have to either have it connected to your router
directly to access the internet and the music on your computer or in your
iTunes library or you can buy a Zonebridge along with it for an extra $99.
Then you can hook this up to your router wherever it is located in your
house and you can put the Play:3 into any room as it gets the signal from
the Zonebridge wirelessly. The players are, however, not working on
batteries, they do have to plugged in and you can have as many as you like.
The next step up would be a Play:5 for I think $399 or something like that,
it's bigger more like a traditional boombox and every bit as good sounding
as a Bose Wave or whatever their boombox is called. After that you get into
the Connect:Amp which is $599 and it's just a touch bigger than an Apple TV
and about twice as high but has a very similar shape and it is basically an
110 Watt Class D amplifier which would have to be hooked up to any set of
bookshelf or larger speakers and it sounds extremely well depending of
course how good the speakers are you connect to it.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: siri

2012-09-27 Thread Shawn Keen

Just don't lose your phone and you'll be fine. smile!

- Original Message - 
From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:22 AM
Subject: siri


hello all,
when we are in locked  screen status and use siri, we can still access our 
info such as contacts infousing siri. if we  intergrated  with face book and 
twitter. we also can post things to face book and twitter and access our 
info as well.
other then that. we also can view our notes, and other things in locked 
screen using siri.
the problem is: when we lost our I phone. and strangers get  it. othehr 
people  also can access our info   or do text messaging to our friend, post 
to face book in locked  screen status. using siri. although  we have set a 
password to unlock the screen. but, people still can access it using siri.

it is a very series issue. hope it can be fix soon.

Ming
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Re: i o s and visually impaired users

2012-09-27 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello Shaun, yes rotate your fingers until you hear headings, then you flick 
one finger up to go up the headings to the top of the page, and flick one 
finger down to go down the page towards the bottom of the page. Any of the 
options in the roter are performed with either a flick up or down, I personally 
find the roter awesome and very useful. I probably use the roter more then any 
other feature on the iDevices.

hth
Ed
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 Hi Ed. When you say navigate the search results in the App Store by headings, 
 do you mean rotate your fingers until the roter says headings? If so, after 
 you've set the roter to headings, how do you navigate the headings?
 
 Shawn
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Re: battery saving on ios6

2012-09-27 Thread Kliphton
I heard time zone support drains your battery also.  Don't know how true that 
is, but read it about a year ago.
On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 Hi all:
 
 I read here on the list that with ios 6 on 4s, batter is much better than
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 and my 3g is off also, are there any other things that I can do to save my
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Re: i o s and visually impaired users

2012-09-27 Thread Tara Prakash
I didn't like the change in the behavior of the App store, but I am not 
complaining.


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users


Why do you say the blindness community is all in a huff over the App
Store? I read the article, and they only refer to one blind person
complaining about the AppStore. I haven't seen any other complaints
surrounding the AppStore other than those that existed prior to the
release of IOS 6. I don't think one person equates to the entire
blindness community.

I do agree though that sometimes these companies are damned if they do
and damned if they don't. If they don't make enough changes then they're
labeled as stagnant or not being innovative enough. If they make too
many changes then people complain about having to learn a whole new
interface.

On 26/09/12 13:53, Ed Worrell wrote:
Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with 
voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say 
that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used 
to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the 
way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on 
the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. 
There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the 
blind community is all in a huff over it.


JMO

Ed
On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote:


It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was
posted by apple insider.
It talks about app store and voice over.
Read the article and read some of the coments.
Great  to see this.
Hit enter on the link below.
Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade

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Much better reception with the iPhone five!

2012-09-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to confirm that my new iPhone five has much better reception than 
the previous iPhone 4. I am using it in the house and I am getting LTE where is 
this before on the same carrier I was just getting edge.

All the best,

Ioana Sent  from my iPhone

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Re: SKYPE AND text chat

2012-09-27 Thread Tara Prakash
Hi Sieghard and all.

How do I find the INstant messages or chat messages whil using skype on iPhone 
using ios 6? I can always find messages, where I get to the voice messages but 
not text messages. I will appreciate your help.

Regards

TaraPrakash

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:31 PM
  Subject: RE: SKYPE AND IOS6


  Hi Carol,

   

  It is not difficult to switch to Speakerphone on Skype, however, it does not 
work by simply taking your phone away from your ear as is the case for regular 
phone calls. It is a bit tricky without headset because you do have to hear 
Voiceover to tap on the right buttons/selections and this you can only do once 
a call has started. Anyhow, here is how it works:

   

   

  1.   After you start a call double tap the second of the 5 buttons from 
the left. The buttons are Mute on the very left, then Earpiece/Headset, 
DialPad, Show Options and End Call on the very right. The second button 
will say Earpiece if you do not have a headset connected and it will say 
Headset if you do have a headset connected.

  2.   Once you double tap this a couple of choices pop up right above that 
bottom row of buttons and one of them is Speakerphone. 

  3.   Double tap Speakerphone and the call will switch to Speakerphone.

  Once Speakerphone is active the button along the bottom row will now say 
Speakerphone as it always indicates whichever method you use for your call. If 
you double tap on it the options come up again above and you can select 
Earpiece or headset if you have one connected and switch back.

   

  If you ever make a video call the first option on the bottom left is Video, 
then comes Mute and then Earpiece/Headset. You can turn video on or off and 
select which camera you want to use in the same way as with Speakerphone. 
Double tap Video, options will appear above with an option to turn on video if 
you started as a voice call and want to start video or, if you started as a 
video call you can turn video off or select the backfacing camera since by 
default Skype uses the frontfacing camera.

   

  Every since the 4.0 update Skype continues to be fully accessible, I find it 
very easy and intuitive to use and it still works just as well as ever under 
iOS 6 although I don't think there has been an official update to support iOS 
6. I think once you get the hang of how this works with these options showing 
up after tapping the Video or Earpiece buttons you will have no problems.

   

  If you use the DialPad keep in mind that in Skype or, for that matter, in all 
other Voip apps touch typing/dialing is not enabled and you have to double or 
split tap to dial numbers on the DialPad both the main DialPad which you use to 
call a number as well as the DialPad you would call up if you had to enter 
numbers during a call, for example, if you ended up on a system which asked you 
to dial an extention.

   

  As with the Phone app itself, using a headset does have a lot of advantages 
and does make things a bit easier.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard


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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, as long as you just change the format region, siri still knows where you 
are.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Suzanne Wilson suzannemwil...@comcast.net 
wrote:

 Does changing the international settings then mean you can't use location 
 features in your own country?  In other words, will SIRI still know where I 
 live and be able to give me directions or will that be lost?  I live in the 
 US and happen to like the Australian voice much better than the American one, 
 but I would still like to be able to use SIRI.  Thanks.
  
 Suzanne
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:37 AM
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 Have you also changed to Australian in Settings  General  International  
 format region? You have to do this. If you hear no difference either they 
 don't sound different to you or the hq voice is not yet downloaded. I don't 
 think there's anything that confirms to you that the hq voice is downloaded 
 except the difference in sound.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Suzanne Wilson suzannemwil...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 I have the Australian voice selected in my language rotor and hear no 
 difference when I toggle the compact voice onn and off.  How do I know if I 
 have actually downloaded the premium voice?
  
 Suzanne
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 You can get the Australian voice immediately by changing the voice in 
 settings  General  International  format region, but the voice will be 
 the compact one so turning compact voice off and on will show no change in 
 the voice you hear though it will now be Australian. So Australian will be 
 your default at that point but you will only be able to access the compact 
 voice until the hq voice downloads. Also, even if Australian is default, if 
 you set another voice in the language rotor, you will of course hear that 
 voice but it won't become the default.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:48 AM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Cheryl,, how do you get default voice immediately? Don't you have to wait 
 for the Australian Karen to download?
 
 Reggie and Brooks
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Because just choosing the Australian voice in the rotor only gives the 
 compact voice which, at lleast to my ears, has a hissing or white noise 
 sound as she starts or stops speaking. The only way to get the hq voice is 
 to make it the default so that the Australian hq voice replaces the hq 
 voice for your former default.
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
 cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
 not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
 to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
 international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
 and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
 suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
 the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
 her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
 though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
 option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
 but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
 the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
 rodar, grin.
 
 Jmt,
 Wayne
 
 On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
 international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if you 
 want
 the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you will have to be patient
 because it doesn't download the hq voice right away apparently. I ended up
 resetting my phone but it sounds like if you just give it time and maybe
 even lock the screen and put it on your charger for a while, the hq voice
 should eventually download. I haven't had any issues with having Australia
 chosen in Format 

A Sonos Question.

2012-09-27 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

Has anyone had any success with the MOG music service using Sonos?

Thanks all over the place.

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Irish voice perhaps, was Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
Any one try this with the Irish voice? If so, which one should be selected: 
ireland or irish ireland? I want English.

Thanks,
Richard

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it. — 
Jane Wagner
(Sent from an iPhone 4s)


On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, as long as you just change the format region, siri still knows where you 
 are.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Suzanne Wilson suzannemwil...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 Does changing the international settings then mean you can't use location 
 features in your own country?  In other words, will SIRI still know where I 
 live and be able to give me directions or will that be lost?  I live in the 
 US and happen to like the Australian voice much better than the American 
 one, but I would still like to be able to use SIRI.  Thanks.
  
 Suzanne
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:37 AM
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 Have you also changed to Australian in Settings  General  International  
 format region? You have to do this. If you hear no difference either they 
 don't sound different to you or the hq voice is not yet downloaded. I don't 
 think there's anything that confirms to you that the hq voice is downloaded 
 except the difference in sound.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Suzanne Wilson suzannemwil...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 I have the Australian voice selected in my language rotor and hear no 
 difference when I toggle the compact voice onn and off.  How do I know if I 
 have actually downloaded the premium voice?
  
 Suzanne
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Using the Australian voice as default
 
 You can get the Australian voice immediately by changing the voice in 
 settings  General  International  format region, but the voice will be 
 the compact one so turning compact voice off and on will show no change in 
 the voice you hear though it will now be Australian. So Australian will be 
 your default at that point but you will only be able to access the compact 
 voice until the hq voice downloads. Also, even if Australian is default, if 
 you set another voice in the language rotor, you will of course hear that 
 voice but it won't become the default.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:48 AM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Cheryl,, how do you get default voice immediately? Don't you have to wait 
 for the Australian Karen to download?
 
 Reggie and Brooks
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Because just choosing the Australian voice in the rotor only gives the 
 compact voice which, at lleast to my ears, has a hissing or white noise 
 sound as she starts or stops speaking. The only way to get the hq voice is 
 to make it the default so that the Australian hq voice replaces the hq 
 voice for your former default.
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just read the last 2 messages in this thread, so pardon me if I
 cover something already mentioned. If people like karen so much, why
 not just add her to the Language Rodar in VO settings, and then switch
 to her whenever you like? Why go through the bother of changing the
 international settings and having to download the HQ version of karen,
 and then perhaps having to get the HQ version of the US voice again? I
 suppose to each their own, but it seems easier to me to add Karen to
 the language rodar and then I can have a choice of when I want to use
 her. Before iOS 5, I used karen for my main voice in VO. Since iOS 5
 though, the US voice has gotten a lot better, IMO. Karen is still an
 option on my language rodar settings, should I want her at any point,
 but I'm back to the good old US of A voice. Incidentally, I also like
 the Irish English voice, and she also holds a place on my language
 rodar, grin.
 
 Jmt,
 Wayne
 
 On 9/26/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, you can use Karen. But you have to go into settings  general 
 international  rformat region and choose Australia there. Then if you 
 want
 the hq voice rather than the compact voice, you 

Re: siri

2012-09-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hello,

Wouldn't it be nice if Apple could implement voice recognition is a security 
feature?

I think the technology is already here. It's always nice to dream!

Take care,

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-27, at 10:01 AM, Shawn Keen shawn.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just don't lose your phone and you'll be fine. smile!
 
 - Original Message - From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:22 AM
 Subject: siri
 
 
 hello all,
 when we are in locked  screen status and use siri, we can still access our 
 info such as contacts infousing siri. if we  intergrated  with face book and 
 twitter. we also can post things to face book and twitter and access our info 
 as well.
 other then that. we also can view our notes, and other things in locked 
 screen using siri.
 the problem is: when we lost our I phone. and strangers get  it. othehr 
 people  also can access our info   or do text messaging to our friend, post 
 to face book in locked  screen status. using siri. although  we have set a 
 password to unlock the screen. but, people still can access it using siri.
 it is a very series issue. hope it can be fix soon.
 
 Ming
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Re: Triple Click Home Default

2012-09-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi,

Not edited my iPhone five have any problem coming by default up with voiceover.

All the best

Ioana

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-27, at 6:24 AM, Rich Cavallaro richcav1...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is odd.
 When I got my 5 on launch day, I took it out of the box.
 I was able to use triple click home and voiceover came up with no issues at
 all.
 How odd.
 Rich Cavallaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of PHILLIP TRACY
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Triple Click Home Default
 
 No sir, that was the first thing I attempted after being unsuccessful so I
 had the store person verify that triple click home was indeed not set on
 this iPhone 5.
 I was truly shocked because it had not been touched, he handed it straight
 out of the box to me while he left to get my otter box defender. All my Iowa
 iPhone friends have also reported mixed results, all of them having had
 iPhones since they started coming with VoiceOver.
 
 Phillip Tracy
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The volume was probably turned down.  This is not hardware specific.  So,
 I'm pretty sure your phone had this capability.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It must be for some, and not for others.  I got both my 4s and 5 in the
 mail, and had to have my wife turn voice over on.  Upon taking it out of the
 box, I tried triple click home, and got nothing.
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 no. This was introduced in IOS 5 last year.  The reason you had to go
 into settings and set it up yourself is because, your device was set up at
 the store.  You must use VO at the setup process for tripple press home to
 be on by default.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Regina Alvarado
 reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Unless it has changed in iPhone 5, I had to go into settings and 
 set triple home myself.  In the store they put VO on, but I could 
 only interrupt it, not turn it off and on until I did this.
 Reggie
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Triple Click Home Default
 
 Hi,
 
 Triple click home works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I recently ordered my shiny new iPhone 5 from Apple and am 
 anxiously
 awaiting its arrival. My question is, when a brand new phone is 
 unboxed, does the Triple Click Home function default to turning on 
 VoiceOver, or will I need to connect the new phone to the PC in 
 order to activate it with my carrier and then restore from the 
 backup, or will I be able to do all the setup right on the phone and
 restore from my iCloud backup?
 Thanks in advance for all help.
 Regards, Paula
 
 Paula Mack
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 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456
 
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RE: SKYPE AND text chat

2012-09-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tara,

 

I am not sure if I understand you correctly. If you are asking on how to
start an Instant Message session with a Skype contact then just double tap
on the contact and you have buttons for Video Call, Voice Call, IM, Send
Photo, View Full Profile and, if they have a mobile number in their profile,
SMS.

 

If you want to review your chat history, go to the messages tab. Double tab
on an entry and you see all the messages that were exchanged.

 

I just restored my iPhone to factory settings which means I reinstalled
Skype. When I opened the app for the first time after the restore Skype
asked if I allow access to Contacts and also if I want my Contacts stored on
the phone or the Skype servvers so they are available on all devices. I
Allowed both, but I did notice that I only saw messages from since I
restored it.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SKYPE AND text chat

 

Hi Sieghard and all.

 

How do I find the INstant messages or chat messages whil using skype on
iPhone using ios 6? I can always find messages, where I get to the voice
messages but not text messages. I will appreciate your help.

 

Regards

 

TaraPrakash

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:31 PM

Subject: RE: SKYPE AND IOS6

 

Hi Carol,

 

It is not difficult to switch to Speakerphone on Skype, however, it does not
work by simply taking your phone away from your ear as is the case for
regular phone calls. It is a bit tricky without headset because you do have
to hear Voiceover to tap on the right buttons/selections and this you can
only do once a call has started. Anyhow, here is how it works:

 

 

1.   After you start a call double tap the second of the 5 buttons from
the left. The buttons are Mute on the very left, then Earpiece/Headset,
DialPad, Show Options and End Call on the very right. The second
button will say Earpiece if you do not have a headset connected and it will
say Headset if you do have a headset connected.

2.   Once you double tap this a couple of choices pop up right above
that bottom row of buttons and one of them is Speakerphone. 

3.   Double tap Speakerphone and the call will switch to Speakerphone.

Once Speakerphone is active the button along the bottom row will now say
Speakerphone as it always indicates whichever method you use for your call.
If you double tap on it the options come up again above and you can select
Earpiece or headset if you have one connected and switch back.

 

If you ever make a video call the first option on the bottom left is Video,
then comes Mute and then Earpiece/Headset. You can turn video on or off and
select which camera you want to use in the same way as with Speakerphone.
Double tap Video, options will appear above with an option to turn on video
if you started as a voice call and want to start video or, if you started as
a video call you can turn video off or select the backfacing camera since by
default Skype uses the frontfacing camera.

 

Every since the 4.0 update Skype continues to be fully accessible, I find it
very easy and intuitive to use and it still works just as well as ever under
iOS 6 although I don't think there has been an official update to support
iOS 6. I think once you get the hang of how this works with these options
showing up after tapping the Video or Earpiece buttons you will have no
problems.

 

If you use the DialPad keep in mind that in Skype or, for that matter, in
all other Voip apps touch typing/dialing is not enabled and you have to
double or split tap to dial numbers on the DialPad both the main DialPad
which you use to call a number as well as the DialPad you would call up if
you had to enter numbers during a call, for example, if you ended up on a
system which asked you to dial an extention.

 

As with the Phone app itself, using a headset does have a lot of advantages
and does make things a bit easier.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: A Sonos Question.

2012-09-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jim,

Can you be more specific as to what problem you are having? I am not using
that service, but I am currently subscribed to Rdio and it works fine, also
Songza and Slacker work fine and so does Wolfgang's Vault. 


Regards,
Sieghard
 

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Subject: A Sonos Question.

Hi Folks:

Has anyone had any success with the MOG music service using Sonos?

Thanks all over the place.

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siri and Voice Recognition

2012-09-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ioana,

Voice recognition as a security feature I think at this point would be
premature. When you call the Aeroplan travel awards customer service line
they ask you to say your Aeroplan number and whether you are the member or
calling on behalf on a member and they use the responses to confirm your
voice print. It usually works OK, but sometimes if you have a bad
connection , lots of background noise, if you are on a Voip line or have a
bad cold it does not recognize you.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri

Hello,

Wouldn't it be nice if Apple could implement voice recognition is a security
feature?

I think the technology is already here. It's always nice to dream!

Take care,

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-27, at 10:01 AM, Shawn Keen shawn.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just don't lose your phone and you'll be fine. smile!
 
 - Original Message - From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:22 AM
 Subject: siri
 
 
 hello all,
 when we are in locked  screen status and use siri, we can still access our
info such as contacts infousing siri. if we  intergrated  with face book and
twitter. we also can post things to face book and twitter and access our
info as well.
 other then that. we also can view our notes, and other things in locked
screen using siri.
 the problem is: when we lost our I phone. and strangers get  it. othehr
people  also can access our info   or do text messaging to our friend, post
to face book in locked  screen status. using siri. although  we have set a
password to unlock the screen. but, people still can access it using siri.
 it is a very series issue. hope it can be fix soon.
 
 Ming
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 chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
 skype:
 chungchiming9950
 
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Re: turning celular data off on iphone

2012-09-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi,

You will get many notifications but if somebody calls you and they don't  leave 
a message you will not get them notification of the missed call unless you get 
a message from the carrier to that effect. Hope this makes sense,

Ioana

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-26, at 7:33 PM, Andrew Head coldeskim...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 got an interesting question, tomorrow I'm going on a church camp and will be 
 in a place where their isn't much reception so was thinking of turning celular
 data off on my iphone to save battery so it's not searching for a tower all 
 the time and not finding one, that way I have more room for recording the 
 talks
 etc. Just wondering if this is turned off, are any calls still put through to 
 voice mail? and are messages/other notifications held in limbo until I turn
 celular data back on?
 Just now
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RE: A Sonos Question.

2012-09-27 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Sieghard:

It's not that I'm having a problem but, I am thinking about purchasing a
Sonos Connect unit and I subscribe to the MOG music service.

Thanks.


 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Sonos Question.

Hi Jim,

Can you be more specific as to what problem you are having? I am not using
that service, but I am currently subscribed to Rdio and it works fine, also
Songza and Slacker work fine and so does Wolfgang's Vault. 


Regards,
Sieghard
 

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Of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Sonos Question.

Hi Folks:

Has anyone had any success with the MOG music service using Sonos?

Thanks all over the place.

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One more cool thing.

2012-09-27 Thread Jennie Facer
I found that when reading the Bible with YouVersion that instead of breaking
up with every word or two, VO reads it all the way through without pause
except for headings. That is wonderful. Voice over isn't so choppy.

Jenn



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Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

2012-09-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi,

Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having trouble 
telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


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Battery savings

2012-09-27 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com

I have my phone on wifi and I have cellular on. What would happen to my phone 
and to my battery is I turned off cellular in the house and turned it back on 
when out? If I turn it off does that mess up my carrier? 





Reggie and Brooks

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Question concerning VIP feature

2012-09-27 Thread Hope Paulos
Hello all. I am wondering if it is possible to have the mail program put the VI 
P Messages in the VIP mailbox and take them out of the normal mailbox. I am 
receiving two copies of the mail. One in the VIP mailbox, and the other one, in 
the main mailbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hope

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Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Harris
I don't disagree with you, I was just speculating whether  the decision 
would have come out different if made by a decision maker with a subtly 
different value set.
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back


Hey Rob,

Sorry I can't agree with you.  This is a business decision and I further
think that gender has no placein this. A good business decision is a
good business decision no matter the gender of the person making it.

Ron  Danvers


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back

This is a guy and gal thing;  a guy will be on time even if he has to come
as he is;  a gal will be late and insist on arriving looking her best.  You
only get one shot to make the right impression, iOs6 might have done the guy
thing instead of the gal thing. If apple got themselves a woman CEO, I
wonder if this would be the result?

R!
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20 PM
Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back


Hi,



I'm sure you understand that, in today's technology, deadlines are the most
important thing around.  In business, if people expect something in
September, that when they want it and business has to provide.  A month
before IOS 6 came out, everyone was speculating as to what would be and were
really expecting IOS 6 to be out on time.  Apple had to bring it out even if
they knew that it wasn't polished just like automobile manufacturers will
put out a car with known problems but would rather deal with a recall than
to hold the production beyond the expected deadline for release.



If you remember Windows 95 and all the others after, they all came out with
serious bugs but they came out on time as announced and bugs were corrected
after and everyone lived with that.  That's the way that big business works




I think we need to give Apple a couple of months to see how they deal with
the after release and then I will agree or not with your statements.  After
all, IOS 6 is only a week old and I am positive that engineers at Apple are
working around the clock to fix things that don't work and implement new
ones.  I'm sure Apple wants to stay on top and I'm sure they know how to do
it.  They just need time and that is something we, as users, are not giving
them.  We want better and faster than what can be done and why!  Only a few
short years ago, we as blind people, didn't even have access to anything
else on our cell phones than dial and answer.  We were complaining about
things as simple as buttons being too small to dial easily and audio
quality.  Now we complain about how long it takes to delete a message when
,a very short while ago, we didn't even have access to that message.  We
even had to ask for sighted help to put contacts in our phones because we
couldn't do it ourselves.



That is not to say that we should stop pushing for better access and better
things but we should be a little more patient as to how quickly it should
come.  All week, I have been following this list and read a lot more
complaints about what wasn't working quite right than I read of things that
are great innovations making room for more improvements.



I'm sure that, within the next few weeks, a lot of small bugs that I've read
about here in the past week will be corrected and we will already be
wondering what IOS 7 will bring.  We are just never happy with what we have.



Ron  Danvers





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back




The iPhone 5 is an incredible smartphone. I've been using mine since it
arrived on my doorstep at 7:48 p.m. the day after launch day (after a
painfully long wait), and I love it. It's spectacularly thin and light, it's
beautiful - like most Apple products - and that larger display is such a
welcome improvement.


I chose the white and silver model - I've had white iPhones for as long as
they've been available - and I think it's the prettiest gadget I've ever
owned. It's also powerful, and noticeably faster than my already snappy
iPhone 4S. Its battery life is excellent, and so is the camera.

Overall, I have a long list of positive things to say about the iPhone 5 -
the hardware is just unbeatable. But I think there's one thing letting it
down, and that's iOS 6.



Before I jump in and tell you why iOS 6 is letting down the iPhone 5, let me
just make one thing clear: I love iOS. It's by far the most polished mobile
platform there is, and 

Playing videos in Facebook

2012-09-27 Thread Jennie Facer
Does anyone know how to play videos on Facebook? I can't figure it out. My
friend posted a video, and I want to play it. How can this be done?

Thank you so much!

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!



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Re: Earpods question

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Harris
The subtle art of packaging is high science now; and despite so many stores 
offering such good return policies;  I often have a right job trying to get 
stuff back in the box once all out;  there's always something sticking up 
and the box is always bulging at the seams when I'm done. Discouraging when 
you find the last piece you missed still on the carpet.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:51 PM
Subject: Earpods question


The earpods from the iPhone 5 came in a case. Is this case actually meant 
for carryint the earpods and if so, is it actually possible to get them back 
in the case. If so, I may need directions (I know that sounds ridiculous!) 
as I'm kind of cord-and-cable challenged. I'd kind of like to use the case 
but getting the earpods back in looks daunting to me. Okay, everybody, it's 
okay to have your laught for the day at my expense :-) Cheryl can run 
computers and iPhones but a pair of earpods and a case brings her to ruin!


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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Re: Phone accessory: Question:

2012-09-27 Thread Rob Harris
Isn't it simply the ac adapter?...   but be warned,   the real Apple ones 
have some kind of id chip in and the 4s at least, knows whether it's an 
apple ac adapter and refuse to use it if it isn't.  So ask your local Apple 
store if you have a recent device.

I got older devices and bought  the usb ac adapters cheap on eBay.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Phone accessory: Question:


I'd like to purchase a couple of the adapters that plug into the 110 volt AC
service and connect to the iPhone 4S power cord?

What exactly do they call this part and where's a good place to get it?

Thanks in advance.

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Siri acting weird

2012-09-27 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
Same here. She won't send a message. She writes it fine and asks if I want to 
send or cancel, but if I say to send the message just sits there. No whoosh. 
Wonder if the server is overloaded. Going to try sending from Fleksy to see if 
I get same results. 





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Siri unhappy

2012-09-27 Thread reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
Just tried from Fleksy, and is went fine, go figure! Wonder now what is wrong 
with her. 





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Default Voice Consideration

2012-09-27 Thread Les Kriegler
Well, I had originally set my default voice to Australian by going to Settings, 
General International and Regional format. However, I discovered that when 
searching for locations in Siri, the information given was listed in 
kilometers.  Since I prefer distances in miles, that's enough for me to switch 
back to United States English.  I'll use the Rotor when I need to change my 
voice to Australian, not a big deal.  As has been pointed out here, learning to 
use the Rotor is an extremely valuable tool.

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Free word processing apps

2012-09-27 Thread cnmyhand
Any that work with Vo

Inez, Celeste N. MyHand's iPhone 
If it is to be, it is up to me.

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RE: Question concerning VIP feature

2012-09-27 Thread Kliphton
That's more than I'm getting.  There not putting the V I P messages in the v
I p mailbox at all, just tells me that it's from a v I p member when I get
to the message in the normal mailbox.

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Subject: Question concerning VIP feature

Hello all. I am wondering if it is possible to have the mail program put the
VI P Messages in the VIP mailbox and take them out of the normal mailbox. I
am receiving two copies of the mail. One in the VIP mailbox, and the other
one, in the main mailbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hope

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Accessible Free App: Shut The Box Chrome

2012-09-27 Thread MamaPeach
Here is an accessible Free App. Please read the VoiceOver notes that I have 
provided below.

Shut The Box Chrome
Developer is EasyAnt Software Solutions
This is not the same one that was developed by Matt Messerman
VoiceOver Notes:
This app is pretty much accessible except for the numbers at the top of the 
screen. Once you start a game, you will be switched to landscape mode. Be 
sure you are holding the phone with the home button to the left. All the way 
across the top are the numbers 1 through 9. Your Roll Dice button is in the 
bottom left hand corner. Once you roll the dice, move up to where it says 
Dice Total and then move just a bit to the right to read what you rolled on 
the dice.
I have written the developer and asked if he would consider labeling these 
buttons, but I haven't heard back from him yet. You can label these yourself 
if you are familiar with labeling buttons.

Description:
Shut The Box Chrome is a modern version of the old Shut The Box board game 
which is thought to have originated in Northern France. Shut The Box tests 
your basic math addition skills and throws in probability and luck to 
influence the outcome. This game is highly addictive and can be used to keep 
your mind sharp, with great sound effects that will keep you playing time 
and time again. The goal is to ensure that you close all the numbers so make 
sure your decisions are the right ones ... A great way to kill time 
while keeping that grey matter ticking over.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shut-the-box-chrome-edition/id498842591?mt=8 


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Re: Default Voice Consideration

2012-09-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't really care about the kilometers vs miles and what Siri presents also 
can depend on how I phrase my question but certainly this is a consideration 
for some. Also, as I've stated before, the problem for me is not learning to 
use the rotor as I have been doing this for quite a while. my problem is that i 
don't like the compact Australian voice or at least the noise interference I 
get with it. If I only use the rotor and keep Samantha as the default voice, I 
can only have the compact Australian voice. For me, this is a big drawback just 
as occasional kilometers is for some.
-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I had originally set my default voice to Australian by going to 
 Settings, General International and Regional format. However, I discovered 
 that when searching for locations in Siri, the information given was listed 
 in kilometers.  Since I prefer distances in miles, that's enough for me to 
 switch back to United States English.  I'll use the Rotor when I need to 
 change my voice to Australian, not a big deal.  As has been pointed out here, 
 learning to use the Rotor is an extremely valuable tool.
 
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Re: battery saving on ios6

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Howell
No longer an issue as far as I can determine. THat was related to a bug that 
has since been resolved.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 I heard time zone support drains your battery also.  Don't know how true that 
 is, but read it about a year ago.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi all:
 
 I read here on the list that with ios 6 on 4s, batter is much better than
 ios5, but here on my iphone 3gs, worest, I terned the location service off,
 and my 3g is off also, are there any other things that I can do to save my
 battery life?
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Re: Question concerning VIP feature

2012-09-27 Thread Mickey Quenzer
Hello hope wanted to let you know that you are only getting one copy of the 
message. It's  just a flag that points  to the VIP folder so you don't need to 
worry about this that you're storing multiple copies of the message and your 
email

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hello all. I am wondering if it is possible to have the mail program put the 
 VI P Messages in the VIP mailbox and take them out of the normal mailbox. I 
 am receiving two copies of the mail. One in the VIP mailbox, and the other 
 one, in the main mailbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 Hope
 
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RE: A Sonos Question.

2012-09-27 Thread Øyvind Lode
MOG is currently not supported by Sonos.
I had a look at the list of supported services and MOG is not listed.

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Jim Noseworthy
Sent: 27. september 2012 17:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Sonos Question.

Sieghard:

It's not that I'm having a problem but, I am thinking about purchasing a
Sonos Connect unit and I subscribe to the MOG music service.

Thanks.


 


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Sonos Question.

Hi Jim,

Can you be more specific as to what problem you are having? I am not using
that service, but I am currently subscribed to Rdio and it works fine, also
Songza and Slacker work fine and so does Wolfgang's Vault. 


Regards,
Sieghard
 

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Hi Folks:

Has anyone had any success with the MOG music service using Sonos?

Thanks all over the place.

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Re: Battery savings

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Howell
You know I just do not see any point in going through all of this. You are just 
going to make yourself crazy trying all of these things. If you were going to 
be out hiking in the wilderness and really need to conserve battery, I would 
say turn everything off except for the phone and maybe just turn the thing off 
until needed. However, there is ac power just about anywhere you are and hey 
you could always stand in front of a computer at a store and sneak your iPhone 
cable into a USB port. Point is you are only making the whole experience 
unpleasant turning this and that on/off just to save a couple percent on the 
battery scale. You of course would not harm anything turning cellular off, but 
honestly nor would you save anything and if you did it would be almost 
negligible.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:36 PM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
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 I have my phone on wifi and I have cellular on. What would happen to my phone 
 and to my battery is I turned off cellular in the house and turned it back on 
 when out? If I turn it off does that mess up my carrier? 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Battery savings

2012-09-27 Thread Cristobal
That or you could just buy an external battery. I think I bought mine for
less than $10.00. Charge that bad boy up and slap the phone in the case and
podcast, stream and talk to your heart's content.

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Subject: Re: Battery savings

You know I just do not see any point in going through all of this. You are
just going to make yourself crazy trying all of these things. If you were
going to be out hiking in the wilderness and really need to conserve
battery, I would say turn everything off except for the phone and maybe just
turn the thing off until needed. However, there is ac power just about
anywhere you are and hey you could always stand in front of a computer at a
store and sneak your iPhone cable into a USB port. Point is you are only
making the whole experience unpleasant turning this and that on/off just to
save a couple percent on the battery scale. You of course would not harm
anything turning cellular off, but honestly nor would you save anything and
if you did it would be almost negligible.

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reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I have my phone on wifi and I have cellular on. What would happen to my
phone and to my battery is I turned off cellular in the house and turned it
back on when out? If I turn it off does that mess up my carrier? 
 
 
 
 
 
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charging the verbatim bluetooth keyboard?

2012-09-27 Thread Melissa Tucker
I know that several of you have this keyboard, so I have a few questions.  Does 
tbis keyboard use regular batteries, or can I charge it with a usb cable.  I 
can't figure out where the USB port is on this keyboard.  I got the keyboard 
that has been discussed on this list, i belive it's the verbatim 97353 or 
something like that.  also, where is the on/off switch?  I see a couple of 
switches that are possibilities, but unable to pair it yet.  thanks.

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RE: siri

2012-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
I suggest you contact Apple through their feedback form  

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

Richard

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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri

yes.
but, it is very good when we need to find something quickly.
sometime I  don't wanna turn off siri.
but, if it just have limit access in locked screen should be better 

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--- 2012年9月27日 星期四,Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com 寫道﹕

 寄件人: Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
 主題: Re: siri
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2012年9月27日,星期四,下午8:45
 You can already turn off that
 feature. 
 Go to settings, general, pass code lock, put in your code so you can 
 change settings and is you flick through the options you will find a 
 section called Access When Lock. The first one is Siri double tap is 
 to off.
 
 Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it. -- Jane Wagner (Sent from an iPhone 4s)
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk
 wrote:
 
  hello all,
  when we are in locked  screen status and use siri,
 we can still access our info such as contacts infousing siri. if we  
 intergrated  with face book and twitter. we also can post things to 
 face book and twitter and access our info as well.
  other then that. we also can view our notes, and other
 things in locked  screen using siri.
  the problem is: when we lost our I phone. and strangers
 get  it. othehr people  also can access our
 info   or do text messaging to our friend,
 post to face book in locked  screen status. using siri.
 although  we have set a password to unlock the screen.
 but, people still can access it using siri.
  it is a very series issue. hope it can be fix soon.
  
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Re: No Edit Option on Calender events on gmail calender on iOS

2012-09-27 Thread Pete Nalda
That button is just not there on this event.  Tried with vo on and off. I do 
have large text on in settings, so my events use a 56 point font size. Only 
thing I can think of, was that I'd used gmail for the calendar option on this 
event. 

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On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pete:
 Top right is the edit in calendar on an event.  One thing I have noticed
 frequently is that sometimes buttons are very, very close together and it is
 necessary to really look to see them.  Also, sometimes buttons seem to
 change if they are not there and I wait for a second or touch in the same
 place where it is supposed to be and lift my finger and it then appears.
 Clear as mud?
 Reggie
 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:46 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: No Edit Option on Calender events on gmail calender on iOS
 
 I'm pretty sure I had this problem before ios6, but I can't find an edit
 button on the top when I go into an event.  How then, would I move the event
 to a different date/time?  Thanks in advance.  Iphone 4 running iOS 6.
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
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RE: Word processing app

2012-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
I think you will find several mentioned at www.applevis.com

I like NoteMaster and Meteor Notes.  Both have a free lite version with
limited functionality, but you can see if you like the way they are laid out
and spend some time figuring them out before buying the full version.

Both developers are trying to be  helpful with making changes to help with
VoiceOver access.

My top choice is NoteMaster, but others prefer Pages, Meteor Notes, and
more.

If you search the archives of this list you will also find lots of
discussion around note taking apps, etc.

HTH,
Richard


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Subject: Word processing app

Are there any that work with VO?

Inez, Celeste N. MyHand's iPhone
If it is to be, it is up to me.

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RE: MapQuest question.

2012-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
Perhaps it is fixed in iOS 6?

I don't really know.

Richard
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MapQuest question.

I got the latest MapQuest update, and I too tried a few different
destinations, but I still only ever got 10.9 miles and 13 minutes away.
This is an iPhone 4S running IOS 5.1.1. I wonder what the difference could
be.

On 25/09/12 12:22, Richard Turner wrote:
 Well, I set a route to my office.  It shows 3.6 miles and the time as 
 9 minutes, which is correct.
  
 I then set a route to my favorite Teahouse in Canada, Murchie's at 
 41st and Cambie, Vancouver BC, it shows 318.4 miles and a time of 5 hours
49 minutes.
 Actually, my favorite location is in Victoria, but I decided not to 
 swim, grin.
 
 So, I think that little issue has been cleared up.
 
 All GPS maps have addresses that have changed before their data is 
 updated, paid or free.
 
 Enjoy,
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: MapQuest question.
 
 My only complaints with MapQuest are:
 * The distance always says 10.9 miles.
 * The time it'll take is always set to 13 minutes.
 * Occasionally, the map will be a bit dated and give me directions to 
 a place that has since moved. I'm not sure about the paid apps, but 
 I've seen this with other free apps as well.
 
 I find the first two points to be just a nuisance. I'm also pulling 
 those from memory.
 
 On 25/09/12 11:58, Richard Turner wrote:
 Yes, that is one of the coolest side benefits with MapQuest.
 Now, if you have it set to a Walking route and put in a destination 
 that is a long way off, it will ask you if you want driving directions.
 Very smart.

 Richard
  

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:56 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: MapQuest question.

 I've also just had MapQuest ask me if I wanted walking directions 
 instead of driving directions when it noticed how close my 
 destination
 was.

 On 25/09/12 10:55, Richard Turner wrote:
 When you have set a destination, double tap on the menu button, 
 double tap on directions, then double tap on Walking and finally, 
 double tap on get directions and you will be in a place where you 
 can double tap on Start Navigation.
 there will also be a list button to show the directions in a list so 
 you can review them with VoiceOver.
  
 I now mostly recommend Mapquest for my clients.
  
 especially since where I live, Navigon is very confused.
  
 HTH,
 Richard
  

 
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 *On Behalf Of *Jim Noseworthy
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:32 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: MapQuest question.

 Richard:

  

 I managed to snag the app from the US app store.  My interest in the 
 app is to see how it stacks against the various payed apps out there 
 of which I have most of them.  I do this in the interest of my clients.

  

 So my question is, what steps are involved in obtaining a walking 
 rout with turn-by-turn announcements?

  

 Cheers.

  

  

  

 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
 *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:32 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: MapQuest question.

  

 Hi Jim,

  

 So, did you find Mapquest for Canada yet?  I just did a Google 
 search and the results I got seem to indicate it working in Canada.

 I have not done a podcast, but if you have specific questions, I'd 
 be glad to help.

 You can write me directly at:

 richard.turne...@gmail.com mailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com

  

 With the update yesterday, you can now save favorites, do multiple 
 stops in one route and it can find people in your contacts...

  

 Later,

 Richard

  

  

 
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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
 mailto:[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim 
 Noseworthy
 *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 7:26 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: MapQuest question.

 Richard:

  

 Thanks much.  I guess it's not available in the canadian app store.

  

 Does anyone know whether or not MapQuest will work in Canada if I 
 could download the app?

  

 Thanks all over the place gang.

  

  

 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 

RE: charging the verbatim Bluetooth keyboard?

2012-09-27 Thread Sandy Finley
Melissa, open the keyboard and put it flat on a desk top. There are two ways
to tell top  from bottom. On the bottom row are two space bar keys; there
are two keys instead of the traditional one long one because that's where
the keyboard folds. On the left side you'll feel a vertical round kind of
thing; that's where batteries are. More about those later.  Towards the
bottom of the keyboard,  just a bit to the right of the batteries is a slide
switch that clicks left and right. Sliding it to the left turns the keyboard
on. Slightly above that switch is a small hole that would fit a stylus. This
is the  button you use for pairing.

Write me off list later tonight at finleykn...@gmail.com if you need more
help and I'll be home. I think I have additional info at my house. And I can
help you with the keyboard.

Sandy


Sandy Finley
Office Phone: 703.310.0506
Mobile Phone: 703.350.3848

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Melissa Tucker
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: charging the verbatim Bluetooth keyboard?

I know that several of you have this keyboard, so I have a few questions.
Does this keyboard use regular batteries, or can I charge it with a sub
cable.  I can't figure out where the USB port is on this keyboard.  I got
the keyboard that has been discussed on this list, i believe it's the
verbatim 97353 or something like that.  also, where is the on/off switch?  I
see a couple of switches that are possibilities, but unable to pair it yet.
thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Accessible Free App: Shut The Box Chrome

2012-09-27 Thread Mickey Quenzer
Thanks for the link to this app I'll check it out

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2012, at 10:57 AM, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net wrote:

 Here is an accessible Free App. Please read the VoiceOver notes that I have 
 provided below.
 Shut The Box Chrome
 Developer is EasyAnt Software Solutions
 This is not the same one that was developed by Matt Messerman
 VoiceOver Notes:
 This app is pretty much accessible except for the numbers at the top of the 
 screen. Once you start a game, you will be switched to landscape mode. Be 
 sure you are holding the phone with the home button to the left. All the way 
 across the top are the numbers 1 through 9. Your Roll Dice button is in the 
 bottom left hand corner. Once you roll the dice, move up to where it says 
 Dice Total and then move just a bit to the right to read what you rolled on 
 the dice.
 I have written the developer and asked if he would consider labeling these 
 buttons, but I haven't heard back from him yet. You can label these yourself 
 if you are familiar with labeling buttons.
 Description:
 Shut The Box Chrome is a modern version of the old Shut The Box board game 
 which is thought to have originated in Northern France. Shut The Box tests 
 your basic math addition skills and throws in probability and luck to 
 influence the outcome. This game is highly addictive and can be used to keep 
 your mind sharp, with great sound effects that will keep you playing time and 
 time again. The goal is to ensure that you close all the numbers so make sure 
 your decisions are the right ones ... A great way to kill time while 
 keeping that grey matter ticking over.
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shut-the-box-chrome-edition/id498842591?mt=8 
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RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Iona,  

Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about.  I discovered it a couple of
days ago.

To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
the auto-lock is set.  

NOTE 1:
If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
before the message can be sent.

To create the bug, do the following:

NOTE 2:
I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
with Siri.

1.
Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
say something like, To, Mark Taylor.  

2.
Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.

NOTE 3:
For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
losing the message before it can be sent.

I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 

Please feel free to use any part of this post.

Mark



 











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Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

Hi,

Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having trouble
telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


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Re: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

2012-09-27 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hmmm, I have not had this problem.  Seri has been a complete jem for me 
since the upgrade.

Jenifer Barr
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- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem



Hello Iona,

Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about.  I discovered it a couple 
of

days ago.

To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how 
long

the auto-lock is set.

NOTE 1:
If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
subsequent

attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
before the message can be sent.

To create the bug, do the following:

NOTE 2:
I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
with Siri.

1.
Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it 
to

say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
say something like, To, Mark Taylor.

2.
Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.

NOTE 3:
For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
losing the message before it can be sent.

I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.

Please feel free to use any part of this post.

Mark















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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

Hi,

Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having trouble
telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


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Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
the auto-lock is set.  

NOTE 1:
If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
before the message can be sent.

To create the bug, do the following:

NOTE 2:
I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
with Siri.

1.
Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
say something like, To, Mark Taylor.  

2.
Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.

NOTE 3:
For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
losing the message before it can be sent.

I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 

Please feel free to use any part of this post.

Mark


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Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread Conrad Bennett
I have sent several messages using Siri the same way and no problems

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:11 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
 the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
 the auto-lock is set.  
 
 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
 successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
 attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
 attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
 before the message can be sent.
 
 To create the bug, do the following:
 
 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
 with Siri.
 
 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
 will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
 say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
 say something like, To, Mark Taylor.  
 
 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
 day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
 said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
 message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.
 
 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
 send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
 initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
 You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
 losing the message before it can be sent.
 
 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
 either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
 accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 
 
 Please feel free to use any part of this post.
 
 Mark
 
 
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Re: Google Authenticator app

2012-09-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, what I do is tap once very 2 seconds on the word code and eventually 
after about 10 or 15 seconds I hear the code.


Hope that helps.

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On 9/27/2012 12:10 PM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

You are right. I am nt sure if this makes any difference at all, but I
will double tap the account that I need the code for. As I said, I don't
know if that step is necissary because I still have to wait until the
code pops up. What will help though is locating the account you want and
just flick back and forth between the account name and the code field,
which would be a flick left if you were on the account name. I usually
keep doing this until I hear the code announced then type it in where
needed.
- Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Google Authenticator app



I think I figured it out - all the accounts are displayed at once. You
simply have to be very quick on the draw.

Grant

On 9/26/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

Fair enough. How do you switch between accounts? If it's simply a
matter of waiting for thirty seconds I suppose that's manageable.

Grant

On 9/26/12, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

Hi, I find it a bit hit and miss. Apparently  it only stays on the
screen
for a short time. You can only get one shot at reading it every 30
seconds
or so.
Max.
On 27/09/2012, at 7:12 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all,

I'm having a lot of trouble with Google Authenticator lately on my
iPhone; I just simply cannot find the verification codes. Does anyone
know if the app is totally inaccessible, or whether there's a way to
work around this?

Thanks.

Grant

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Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

2012-09-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Mark,

I haven't seen this bug at all since updating to IOS 6.  I wonder, does this 
happen when sending regular texts and iMessages?

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
 the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
 the auto-lock is set.  
 
 NOTE 1:
 If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
 successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
 attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
 attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
 before the message can be sent.
 
 To create the bug, do the following:
 
 NOTE 2:
 I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
 with Siri.
 
 1.
 Launch Siri and say something like, Send a message to Mark Taylor.  Siri
 will reply with something like, You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
 OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
 say?  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
 say something like, To, Mark Taylor.  
 
 2.
 Initiate the Siri command and say something like, Hi Mark.  How is your
 day?  I hope you are well.  Siri will respond with something like, You
 said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
 message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send.
 
 NOTE 3:
 For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
 send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
 initiating Siri and saying, Send, Siri will respond with something like,
 You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you, only to lock the screen,
 losing the message before it can be sent.
 
 I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
 either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
 accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 
 
 Please feel free to use any part of this post.
 
 Mark
 
 
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Re: Using the Australian voice as default

2012-09-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Everyone might want to save the below message I say this with 
light-hearted humor, but not all the way light-hearted. How many times 
does this same thing need to be explained over. I think that this topic 
has been beaten to death and I've seen several list posters give good 
and clear directions on getting either one hq voice or the other, and 
why you can and cannot do something in regards to which hq voice you 
want and yet the same questions keep popping up. I'm of course talking 
about the last 5 days or so.


So please, if there is a subject for which you are not clear about, save 
the message and re-read it over and over and it will make sense. 
Especially if the list poster has explained it the right way. For 
example, like the below one.


Thanks.

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On 9/27/2012 9:03 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

The language rotor doesn't control whether you have the compact voice or
the hq voice. You can only have one hq voice on your phone at a time,
and when you change the default voice in Settings  General 
International  format region, it takes a while for the new hq voice to
download and replace the former one. Whether your voice is compact or hq
is controlled by the compact voice control in the voiceover settings in
Settings  General  accessibility  voiceover. Toggling this to compact
voice off will change the default voice to hq if it has been downloaded;
otherwise you would just keep hearing the compact one. This toggle has
absolutely no effect on any voice but the default one and all voices
except the default one ( the one you set in format region) will always
be compact.



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voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using vibrate mode

2012-09-27 Thread Josh Eubank
When I set my iPhone 3GS running iOS 6 to vibrate mode, if I get a 
notification while the screen is locked, voiceover will not read it. It 
will, however, if I have it in the regular mode with all the sounds 
turned on. Anyone else experiencing this? Thanks,


Josh

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Re: Upgrading to IPhone 5?

2012-09-27 Thread Chris
It is up to you but if you can afford it get the 5 otherwise get the 4s. 
I heard someone's 4s running iOS 6 and works just fine.


On 26/09/2012 00:07, Jim Portillo wrote:

Howdy,

I’d like to hear from anyone who has upgraded to a new IPhone 5.  I have
the IPhone 4 and am ready to upgrade but am unsure whether I should do
it now or wait.  Are there serious bugs either in the phone or in the
operating system?  I keep hearing there have been major changes to the
system and would like to know what to expect.

Thanks much.

Jim

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