Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

Your writing skills are good enough. It is your thinking skills that need a lot of work. You don't seem able to grasp simple concepts, you browbeat, you use assertions and call them reasons, you can't avoid straw argumentation, you put your head in the sand and shout so no one can change your min

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

If you are throwing around words you do not manage you end up using them wrong and it backfires. Sorry for you. Just fyi the Swedes are not my friends - I do not even know them or know much about them. I agree with that my writing skills are less good - particularly as this is my second language.

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > You are twisting words or make citations after your own interpretation. > ***No, it's just a simple matter of a typo. I posted that you should go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquino to learn more about it. I was using the derivativ

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > You are twisting words or make citations after your own interpretation. > Most of your stuff is just polemic. > ***So is yours, you're just a crappy writer. > Just fyi my idea about how theft can be understood or less condemned is > not

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

You are twisting words or make citations after your own interpretation. Most of your stuff is just polemic. Just fyi my idea about how theft can be understood or less condemned is not an analogy. You had an analogy, which was good but you did not understand the analogy. As you bring up Marta Stewar

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Kevin O'Malley > wrote: > >> ​Kevin, yes I had to look up " >> pasquinade >> ​". I did not think it was any satire in what I said​ >> ​ >> ​. >> > ***You'll need to look it up again. http://en.wikipedia.

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > ​Kevin, yes I had to look up " > pasquinade > ​". I did not think it was any satire in what I said​ > ​ > ​. I would say it is life. Yes, delayed and cancelled performances happens > and that is regardless if they are publicly announced. You

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > In short Kevin it is not a way to take care of the professor' future > economic future . That is what I have said and continue saying. > ***In short, you simply don't have a clue about how much temptation this represents. If you were work

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

In short Kevin it is not a way to take care of the professor' future economic future . That is what I have said and continue saying. The personal insults would upset me if I know myself as little as I know you. I hope you learnt from this investment it is a difficult game and seldom does it follow

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Kevin it does not make any difference to me if you are doing good or bad > decisions. > ***Then why bring it up? > As you are talking about it and think others are to blame - I thought it > was fair game and I do call a spade a spade. >

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

Kevin it does not make any difference to me if you are doing good or bad decisions. As you are talking about it and think others are to blame - I thought it was fair game and I do call a spade a spade. However, now you have made an investment and when it goes sour then the solution is to find a sin

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > I do not know how you defend your own greed - > ***That has nothing to do with the issue at hand. > especially if you have made the wrong decision. > ***Why should it make ANY difference to you, whatsoever? > Kevin you are just one o

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

Contrariwise, almost everything he's referred to has come to fruition in one form or another. (Maybe not the automated factory, but where DID all those 1MW units, in 3 different models, come from?) ***Oh really. Where's that big, well known customer he claimed to have shipped to in 2011? Do you

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

I do not know how you defend your own greed - especially if you have made the wrong decision. Kevin you are just one of. My point was not that AR should say something els9e - he could say something less irritating to you and othersthat belive conspiracy is the issue. Reality is that you are just co

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

*not game, gave 2014-06-30 22:28 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > I don't know you people what you are seeing. That's really the most normal > answer Rossi ever game. > > -- > Daniel Rocha - RJ > danieldi...@gmail.com > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

I don't know you people what you are seeing. That's really the most normal answer Rossi ever game. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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***Perhaps you are not familiar with Rossi's credibility issues regarding his past posts on JONP. Contrariwise, almost everything he's referred to has come to fruition in one form or another. (Maybe not the automated factory, but where DID all those 1MW units, in 3 different models, come f

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Kevin, > At least you have to try to believe that people are not all malicious. > ***I'm not attributing malice. I'm attributing greed. > He certainly could say that he is disappointed and that he feels that they > have broken their p

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Kevin, At least you have to try to believe that people are not all malicious. He certainly could say that he is disappointed and that he feels that they have broken their promises. He could say a lot other things instead of just throwing out a lie, which he for sure would have to pay dearly for if

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Yeah, I read it. What else can Rossi say? You don't spit at the alligator until you're done crossing the river. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Hi Alan, > I am 100% a believer in that those statements are a true reflection of the > reasons for the delay. > I hope K

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Hi Alan, I am 100% a believer in that those statements are a true reflection of the reasons for the delay. I hope Kevin reads it. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe -- Peer Review

* Andrea Rossi June 29th, 2014 at 9:46 AM Giuliano Bettini: I edited your text for obvious reasons, conserving the meaning of it. You must know that the peer reviewing of a scientific publication usually takes 6 months as an average. The experiment made by the Third Independent Party

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

I am right. And as I said earlier, I think I have learned enough about your perspective not to listen to your advice. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Maybe you are right Kevin. The Swedes are making it hard for you. Damned > Swedes. > I did not know the Swedes we

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Maybe you are right Kevin. The Swedes are making it hard for you. Damned Swedes. I did not know the Swedes were obligated to do anything for you? Have you paid for it? Or do you think they owe it Rossi and he does not want your $250k - wonder why. Some times the best Strategy is to hurry up and wai

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On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Kevin, I just said stock prices will not improve before the big players > come in and they are not going to read 'the report' and d raw conclusions. > ***You're talking about big cap stocks. I'm talking about small cap stocks. CYPW Cyc

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Kevin, I just said stock prices will not improve before the big players come in and they are not going to read 'the report' and d raw conclusions. 'The report' will do nothing for business. After market intro the suppliers of auxiliary equipment has a market. Then there will be competition and that

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On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > > You have identified some possible stock that might increase because of > LENR. That is fine what is your problems? Make your investments and be > happy. > ***My problem is that these guys are unconscionably delaying the report that cou

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

Kevin I think you know my opinions. I will not reiterate them. I will answer what I think is new and if I was unclear before in some cases. No, in no way am I making any statements about certain races or nationalities. I am aware of that there is no big differences when you add everything together.

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On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > I agree with you Kevin. > Just keep in mind that sometimes there is too much risk and it is reasons > to take what I say as another factor. > ***I cannot keep it in mind because it is underdeveloped. It is a simple assertion. > I thi

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Alan Fletcher wrote: > I would prefer it if they just covered the black-box calorimetry, as soon > as possible, with a second paper on products when it's ready. > That would be a good idea. In fact, even if they had a section on calorimetry and another on mass spectroscopy ready today, I would

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Any report on the before-and-after products is going to raise more (pathoskeptical) questions than it answers. I would prefer it if they just covered the black-box calorimetry, as soon as possible, with a second paper on products when it's ready.

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Alain Sepeda wrote: What about Naturwissenschaften, or Jounal of electroanalythical chemistry ? > They have not published anything in a long time, as far as I know. > OFF WITH THEIR HEAD > > like after occupation and collaboration, those who collaborated with the > invader, are blacklisted i

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Axil, I am sure it is my lack of understanding. However, I cannot see why it is so hard to measure input and output of the Ecat. I am fine receiving a correction of my simple thinking as I am sure I am missing something. I do not know anything about the RF situation and if I had the thought (or ex

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One of the challenges that the testers of the Rossi reactor will have will be the intense EMF that radiates from the reactor. Due to NMR effects, this EMF radiation will blow out the instrumentation and communication equipment within some meters of the reactor. The Reactor might take out the phone

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

I agree with you Kevin. Just keep in mind that sometimes there is too much risk and it is reasons to take what I say as another factor. I think that given the opportunity a few people will take advantage in a small scale - totally of no significance. Maybe $thousands. That is something we cannot a

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From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com What about Naturwissenschaften, or Journal of electroanalythical chemistry ? FWIW an article turned up on J. Elec. Chem. which could have some relevance to LENR. Check the latest issue for: “Electrochemical supercapa

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What about Naturwissenschaften, or Jounal of electroanalythical chemistry ? If I was the LENR community i would ask all scientist to boycott nature, Science and alike, for publication and for citation... that would be fair. Scientist will quickly and rationally know that if they try to publish the

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Keep in mind that a few $billion buys a lot of mai tais. Swedes are no exception to temptation. On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Ok kevin I am guilty. > I doo express myself poorly in English. > There are fewer payphones in Sweden than here. > On Jun 22, 2014 10:08 P

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Ok kevin I am guilty. I doo express myself poorly in English. There are fewer payphones in Sweden than here. On Jun 22, 2014 10:08 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Lennart Thornros > wrote: > >> >> >> There is no room for insider preferred treatment. That is becau

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On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > > > There is no room for insider preferred treatment. That is because of that > I responded to your post. It is not that kind of environment. Too easy to > find and too hard to absorb (the critic afterwards). > ***Just ONE phone call on a

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On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > There is no room for insider preferred treatment. That is because of that > I responded to your post. It is not that kind of environment. Too easy to > find and too hard to absorb (the critic afterwards). > ***I doubt it's easy to find.

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Kevin, I understand your frustration. I can see that it is one thing what should take place and another what is taking place. There is no room for insider preferred treatment. That is because of that I responded to your post. It is not that kind of environment. Too easy to find and too hard to abs

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > > > I am saying I believe - your opinion is as good as mine just my believe - > that there is a conflict between people and that some say 'let us publish', > while other say > ​ > ​we get the question xyz- what are we saying. > ***They sh

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Jones Beene wrote: “Nature” would be a fool’s errand for sure. > > > > European Physical Journal B would be the wiser choice. > True. But they have not published anything about cold fusion for many years, as I recall. - Jed

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Physics Letters A published a replication of Arata's pycnodeuterium paper. This could easily be called a replication of earlier Ni/H papers. On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > “Nature” would be a fool’s errand for sure. > > > > European Physical Journal B would be the wiser

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“Nature” would be a fool’s errand for sure. European Physical Journal B would be the wiser choice. From: Jed Rothwell My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a journal. Maybe a major journal such as Nature. That is a fool's errand. - Jed

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Axil Axil wrote: If true, this might mean that Nature has input into how the test is run to > meet it own high scientific standards. > I do not think Nature editors make suggestions about how to conduct an experiment. With one exception: they made suggestions when their own editor, Maddox, took

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I might add to Eric’s suggestion that we all take a sip once in a while. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: Eric Walker Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎June‎ ‎21‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎35‎ ‎PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote: E-Cat world reporting another d

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

Alain & Jed-- I agree with Jed. Fear of the unknown is hard wired in the human/animal response in general. Only rational thought process or repeated safe experiences can overcome this built-in fear. Its the risk takers like Rossi who look fear in the face and ignore her/him that cause chang

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The extreme limitation on access to "the magic box" upon which this report is founded is an impediment to its credibility. Larding on top of that impediment associations with Rossi, such as Levi, is (unlike the limited access) unnecessary and synergistically damaging to the report's credibility.

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I forget where I read it, but Levi was not involved this time. Harry On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a > journal. Maybe a major journal such as Nature. That is a fool's errand. > > - Jed > >

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If true, this might mean that Nature has input into how the test is run to meet it own high scientific standards. On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a > journal. Maybe a major journal such as Nature. That is a

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My guess is that Levi et al. are trying to get this published in a journal. Maybe a major journal such as Nature. That is a fool's errand. - Jed

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Ahmen Axil :) On Jun 21, 2014 8:32 PM, "Axil Axil" wrote: > I believe that LENR is many centuries ahead of its time. Let us understand > this paradigm changing device through an like example. > > > > Let us put ourselves back to the year 1014 AD. Imagine that a smart phone > was given to a monk w

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I believe that LENR is many centuries ahead of its time. Let us understand this paradigm changing device through an like example. Let us put ourselves back to the year 1014 AD. Imagine that a smart phone was given to a monk who toiled for most of his cloistered life coping one book and you told

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Hello Kevin, No Swedes are not immune to any bad things. I was hesitating before I wrote my post as I could hear that protest. However, it is a small and homogeneous country where the head of (the CIA of Sweden) is forced to explain himself. He is criticized for having collaborated with the US int

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

Vortex Beerhall song. IN MERCATU VERITAS by Matt Robinson * Composed with contingency dependent on the positive outcome of a certain report allegedly being prepared for publication, and a slight nod to T. S. Eliot’s ‘Macavity’ A word of caution ‘fore you read, this is based on su

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Hi guys I am a Swede at least I lived there until 1988. > There are no black suits in Sweden. There are nobody informing friends to > make them rich. > ***Then are Swedes somehow immune to the human condition? It is a small and relativel

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote: E-Cat world reporting another delay from the TIP testers... I feel that someone should volunteer to write a Vortex beerhall song. We can while away the time to the TIP report by loudly singing the song and clinking beer steins. Eric

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a lot." - Chopin From: Jed Rothwell To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe Alain Sepeda wrote: just a nasty question ... > > >who opposed Cold Fusion research ? D

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Alain Sepeda wrote: just a nasty question ... > > who opposed Cold Fusion research ? DoD,Navy ? Commercial/Military Nuke > labs ? > or rather : APS, , DoE, NYT, Swedish Public Radio, INFN, CERN, > scientific journals... > All of them opposed it, and they still do. See, for example: http://p

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Hi guys I am a Swede at least I lived there until 1988. There are no black suits in Sweden. There are nobody informing friends to make them rich. It is a small and relatively homogeneous country no big lies survive for long. I am absolutely sure that it is a combination of inconclusive result and l

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

Has anyone done a more complete job of chronicling the institutional incompetence than Charles Beaudette in "Excess Heat "? On Sat, Jun 2

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > just a nasty question ... > > who opposed Cold Fusion research ? M.I.T. for one. Read Dr. Mallove's extensive report: http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/mitcfreport.pdf

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They could have decided they just wanted to put some time and space between the swedish radio thing and their report. On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > E-Cat world reporting another delay from the TIP testers... "early autumn" > "Soon we will probably know a little bit more.

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just a nasty question ... who opposed Cold Fusion research ? DoD,Navy ? Commercial/Military Nuke labs ? or rather : APS, , DoE, NYT, Swedish Public Radio, INFN, CERN, scientific journals... was the aggression like commando and killing, or academic execution, insults, peer-review blocking, nas

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Or another possibility: some men in black suits and mirror shades told them "you can't publish this as written, matter of National, NATO, EU, World security, top secret ( pick one or more). We will tell you what you can say, and when, or else...and don't tell Rossi we were here". That's how it

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

Kevin O'Malley wrote: A few weeks ago, Jed Rothwell said that professors have a very casual > relationship with deadlines. A better round of adjectives would be > thoughtless, supercilious, aloof. > I agree. They know that people are waiting anxiously. They should publish an interim report now.

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

Here's the first few lines of your post. Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=subject:%22Re%3A+%5BVo%5D%3ASay+it+ain%27t+so%2C+Joe%22> Foks0904 . <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=from:%2

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Oh ye with little patience: A WATCHED POT NEVER BOILS. Bob On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Foks0904 . wrote: Kevin, you were the one who responded to my original post -- which had nothing to do with your speculations whatsoever. ***That is simply not the case. Your post was a

RE: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

Jones, I have little reason to disagree with you assessment. It will be interesting to see what happens when they finally get around to reporting on their findings. Well... ahem... What we have here is a failure to analyze the data properly... Uh, well, that is my professional opinion on this ma

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Kevin -- My very first message was a response to Jones' OP. Here it is again in case you forgot: "I'm a little disappointed, but as Daniel and others have suggested, at the very least, this seems to suggest that nuclear levels of excess heat have been measured yet again. Why bother with delaying t

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Foks0904 . wrote: > > Kevin, you were the one who responded to my original post -- which had > nothing to do with your speculations whatsoever. > ***That is simply not the case. Your post was a response to mine, and included a wholesale copy of my post. So you

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > You do not delay a report for an isotopic analysis if there has been no > excess heat ! You simply issue a negative report. > ***And conversely, you simply issue a positive report & ask Rossi publicly for permission to do isotopic analysis a

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > . However I'm inclined to speculate that two inescapable > conclusions have been drawn: > > > > (1) Spurious anomalous heat continues to be recorded. > > (2) They can not accurately predict and

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***So... then... what is your speculation? You spent a bunch of energy using exaggeration fallacies to knock mine down. Where's yours? Kevin, you were the one who responded to my original post -- which had nothing to do with your speculations whatsoever. You decided to initiate this conversation

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Foks0904 . wrote: > Kevin, maybe you're right, who knows, but for the most part that > suggestion is pure innuendo. > ***No, it's not pure innuendo, it is partial innuendo. If I had posted that on April 3rd because the report was due in April, then it would be pu

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > A few weeks ago, Jed Rothwell said that professors have a very casual > relationship with deadlines. Douglas Adams: “I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by.” On the other hand, imagine you are a ranked, tenu

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let us imagine the unimaginable... It work. now, the swedish scientist have measured heat... positive. they re mesure... delay...positive... impossible. so the look for nuclear ashes... delay... interesting but uncmmon... they remeasure... delay... they prepare a paper a report... since it is impo

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Foks0904 . wrote: I'm a little disappointed, but as Daniel and others have suggested, at the > very least, this seems to suggest that nuclear levels of excess heat have > been measured yet again. Why bother with delaying the report for the sake > of isotopic analy

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Sorry to sound like that scratched record myself - as I see others have said the same thing. Steven, Yes ... and there could be a third and more important inescapable conclusion. You do not delay a report for an isotopic analysis if there has been no excess heat ! You simply issue a

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Steven, Yes ... and there could be a third and more important inescapable conclusion. You do not delay a report for an isotopic analysis if there has been no excess heat ! You simply issue a negative report. IOW if the report was indeed delayed for this reason, it is a slam-dunk that th

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Jones sez: > ... sounding like a scratched vinyl record Perhaps so. However I'm inclined to speculate that two inescapable conclusions have been drawn: (1) Spurious anomalous heat continues to be recorded. (2) They can not accurately predict and/or control the generation of spurious an

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> > Andrea Rossi > June 21st, 2014 at 9:18 AM > > Giuliano > Bettini and Gentle Readers: > Please disregard any rumor, whisper, noise, voice, whistle, chant, music > or whatsoever acoustic waves vibration regarding the date

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Kevin, maybe you're right, who knows, but for the most part that suggestion is pure innuendo. It's like making the argument that Gamberle has some shadowy partner who wants to steal DGT's technology, and so he broke his NDA and issued a fraudulent statement to make DGT look bad. Possibly, but that'

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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Foks0904 . wrote: > Why bother with delaying the report for the sake of isotopic analysis > otherwise? > ***For exactly the reason I just detailed: they are using this information selfishly.

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I'm a little disappointed, but as Daniel and others have suggested, at the very least, this seems to suggest that nuclear levels of excess heat have been measured yet again. Why bother with delaying the report for the sake of isotopic analysis otherwise? On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Kevin O'

Re: [Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

A few weeks ago, Jed Rothwell said that professors have a very casual relationship with deadlines. A better round of adjectives would be thoughtless, supercilious, aloof. There is not much doubt in my mind that this report will eventually be positive. If it had been a blowout, they'd have publis

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Well, this is a good sign. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

[Vo]:Say it ain't so, Joe

E-Cat world reporting another delay from the TIP testers... "early autumn" "Soon we will probably know a little bit more. The group of scientists from Uppsala and KTH has expanded with more scientists from other countries and the second independent test is about to get published early autumn. The t

Re: [Vo]:VALID SCIENTIFIC QUERY: BHO: LGBT & INFANTCIDE/EUGENIC GENOCIDE CommonAgenda: Say it ain't so!

What is good in having more and more children, in particular when people cannot afford it? I rather extend the length and quality of the people that are already alive right now. Giovanni On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Harbach Jak wrote: > Scientific Question: ?How does 'Planned Eugenic Infa

[Vo]:VALID SCIENTIFIC QUERY: BHO: LGBT & INFANTCIDE/EUGENIC GENOCIDE CommonAgenda: Say it ain't so!

Scientific Question: ?How does 'Planned Eugenic Infanticide' translate into Planned Parenthood? The NAZIs coined MANY dark euphamisms for 'human extermination' amongwhich 'Eugenics' was adopted by them although it was NOT 'imagined' first by them. The Rockefeller Foundation was the NAZI source.

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Title: Re: Say it ain't so I am thinking in terms of short term effectiveness rather than long term efficiency. Harry leaking pen wrote: but its still not the most effecient use of energy On 10/22/05, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok then a conventional warhead. Harry

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but its still not the most effecient use of energy On 10/22/05, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok then a conventional warhead.Harry leaking pen wrote: it would, because then youd have the shaft acting as a channel.  but...  have you SEEN the ground around an underground test?  the concuss

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Title: Re: Say it ain't so Ok then a conventional warhead. Harry leaking pen wrote: it would, because then youd have the shaft acting as a channel.  but...  have you SEEN the ground around an underground test?  the concussive wave shatters rock miles away.  in space, without a contraint

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it would, because then youd have the shaft acting as a channel.  but...  have you SEEN the ground around an underground test?  the concussive wave shatters rock miles away.  in space, without a contraint, and a limit to how far the energy could be dissapated?  a mile wide asteroid would shatter if

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Title: Re: Say it ain't so If it is a really big asteroid I doubt a small warhead would split it. I think boring into the surface before detonation would result in a more controlled thrust then a detonation on or near the surface. Harry leaking pen wrote: penetration would be easy

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penetration would be easy.  an object that distant, just escape velocity would be enough to punch pretty deep, and with extra fuel, we can get missiles going pretty darn fast.  its a matter of keeping the bomb intact, and the fact that penetration would shatter it, which would STILL be bad.  we're

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Harry Veeder wrote: Such technology may be useful for diverting large asteroids on a collisions course with earth. Unfortunately the "ground-penetrating" bombs are somewhat misleadingly named. They're really just big darts, heavy and pointed at one end, dropped from a high altitude and c

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From: thomas malloy A small atom bomb is an oxymoron, as is a clean atom bomb. the best public authority on nuclear weapon design is carey sublette http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/ his web page has all you really want to know about the Bomb - read it, be the Bomb, love it and stop worrying

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