I see heat transfer as in a super-fluid, that is almost instansious.
*I am confident the there is a global condensation of polariton states in a
Ni/H reactor. This general condition of Bose-Einstein condensation means
that the micro-powder and perhaps even the hydrogen envelope is a
superfluid
Strange, in my observation 3 things define the best engineers I know (of
few hundred I have met):
1 Excellent/encyclopedic memory - at least for engineering stuff, may not
be able to remember their friends names or where they put their keys.
2 Good at mental calculation (assess what-ifs quickly).
Right. It's a way to effect DD fusion without high temperature. The
similarity to WL is the use of energetic (relativistic) electrons, instead
of high temperature.
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:31 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Joshua,
Essen's paper suggests a novel way to use magnetic
http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/2013/goldnanocrys.jpg
A lenr lab must have this equipment.
These testers are not predominantly engineers. And especially they are not
predominantly electrical or electronics engineers, and this seems to me to be a
most desirable skill to have in this situation. That's unless you trust Rossi
implicitly (and if you do, you're welcome).
Andrew
-
Dear Robert,
as an engineer with more than 53 years practice, in my opinion
the definitory virtues of an engineer are;
a) Problem solving mentality and ability (real life problems);
b) Dedication to technological progress in his field
c)Work discipline in sys-thinking (systematic and system
This has only just occurred to me, but in my mind is a bit of a red flag:
The reactor vessel is a sealed metal container, no electrical or magnetic
signal of any frequency will penetrate it (It is a faraday cage). And all
of the resistive heating elements are positioned around it, so they do
Many of us are saying that. I think it's the primary criticism.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Lynn
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 1:00 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent detailed measurement of the power input?
This has only just occurred to me,
seems good description, but I would add a 5th category of target, probably
not targeted because scientist talk naturally to scientists.
-5 industrialists and their engineers, looking for opportunities
It is the only useful target in my opinion.
mainstream scientists will never accept newly
Hi All,
My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows..
Just want to settle a couple of things.
Torbjörn Hartman's personal merits (as listed at
http://katalog.uu.se/empInfo?id=N96-5170)
state Dr.Med.vet., civ.ing.. Assuming the line is written in Swedish (which
it is, trust
Yes, but referees could be part of the international conspiracy that Rossi is
commanding.
DEFINITELY not a vet.
A Swedish corresponded wrote to me:
Med.vet = Medicinsk vetenskap = Medicine Science (not a veterinarien)
civ.ing. = civilingenjör = Master of Science (M Sc) in any dicipline (not
only building infrastructure)
The mix-up is hilarious.
- Jed
See:
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2013/05/google-reels-in-wind-kite-firm-makani
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
Yes, but referees could be part of the international conspiracy that Rossi
is commanding.
Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
And all of the resistive heating elements are positioned around it, so
they do nothing but deliver heat to the reactor contents - no special
magnetic or electrical excitation can pass through the reactor vessel. All
of these configurational
Has energetics technology ever achieved any success?
2013/5/24 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
And all of the resistive heating elements are positioned around it, so
they do nothing but deliver heat to the reactor contents - no special
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Has energetics technology ever achieved any success?
Yes, they have many positive experiments, confirmed by Duncan and others.
See, for example:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DardikIultrasonic.pdf
- Jed
Yes, pulsing the current across a loaded sample is often useful.
I find that pulses in the 0.1 to 400 Hz region with a fast rise time often
stimulates excess. But then I am using metal in carbon materials and
don't have anything like the power densities that Rossi has.
(pure metal powders quickly
Robert Lynn wrote:
And all of the resistive heating elements are positioned around it, so they
do nothing but deliver heat to the reactor contents - no special magnetic or
electrical excitation can pass through the reactor vessel.
There is still confusion on that point. From Forbes
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Strange, in my observation 3 things define the best engineers I know (of
few hundred I have met):
1 Excellent/encyclopedic memory - at least for engineering stuff, may not
be able to remember their friends names or where they put their keys.
2
Because when he DOES finally allow it, and its fine, people will look
stupid. Its never what the magician tells you NOT to look at thats
important, its what he tells you to look at.
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
wrote:
This has only just occurred
feet up on the desk I wish I had a like button.
D2
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:33:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Strange, in my observation 3
It is more than remotely possible - that if the HotCat reactor is ceramic
and not steel, that at least the inner capsule could be influenced by a
special waveform - and that explains why Rossi does not want it to be known.
not so much that it is HIS trade secret, but that he borrowed the idea
from
Rational people? You mean Cold Fusion skeptics? The ones who avoid admitting
that a conspiracy is now necessary to support their disbelief?
As for government related conspiracies, I have three questions:
1) does the government commonly lie?
2) does the government wish to retain control and
Squat is a good, see:
http://crossfitbattlefield.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/squat-not-squat.jpg
See how you can do squat about cold fusion:
http://wpfpowerlifting.com/WPF%20DOCS/SquatDepth.PNG
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
1) does the government commonly lie?
No, it seldom lies, and usually only with regard to obscure or unimportant
things, because larger lies are discovered by the press or the party out of
power.
The government lives in a glass house. Corporations find
It is possible that RF would pass through these ceramics, no?
Yes, more than likely that RF could pass thru a ceramic, however, if
electrically conductive, then probably not.
An E or B field will most likely go thru the ceramics, but the reactor
vessel is stainless steel:
The most
1) does the government commonly lie?
No, it seldom lies, and usually only with regard to obscure or unimportant
things, because larger lies are discovered by the press or the party out of
power.
ROTFLMAO! If they were obscure or unimportant, there would be no reason
to lie, would
So to continue this line of arithmetic, we have a factor of 10 gain to
explain. First of all let's get rid of the Stefan Boltzmann amplification
of error by taking the fourth root of 10:
10^(1/4)
= 1.7782794
That means if we're looking for error as the source of the gain, we have to
plausibly
From the experience of me and my beloved NGO lobbyist the NGO are not
different from corporation...
Note also that the ethic of sympathetic fashion corporation/NGO is often
the worst since they are seldom criticized...
eg: Greenpeace is know for many affaire of blatant lies that would have put
Mark,
In the end - it looks to me like the secrecy about the wave-from was
probably due to similarity to the Energetics patent and not a trade secret
per se; and that Rossi is using the magnetic properties of the waveform to
stimulate the nickel powder, which is itself ferromagnetic.
Ed,
Good analysis and totally agree with your conclusions except for your
description as a fusion process since that remains controversial would just
call it an as yet undetermined process. [snip] , which allows the diffusion
rate to drop enough to starve the fusion process of reactant
Welcome to Rashomon and the 'quicksilver nature of truth'.
Looks like Dardik's superwave tech is an application - not a granted patent
http://www.google.com/patents/US20080316782?dq=energetics+dardik
http://www.google.com/patents/US20080316782?dq=energetics+dardikei=LJufUbH
wM8XsiwLe5oDgDgcl=en ei=LJufUbHwM8XsiwLe5oDgDgcl=en
Mark,
In the
Thanks Fran. It's nice to get an occasional agreement :-) However, how
do you propose to make helium and tritium from D and H by a process
other than fusion? Of course, the process is not like hot fusion, but
this does not remove another process that results in fusion as the
mechanism.
I propose a simple design for a Rossi controller:
A diode in series with the resistor.
This will draw a small AC component at 60Hz, combined with a large DC
component. So any kind of power meter using clamp on ammeters will
register some power, but nowhere near the full power consumed. Simply
Well, it certainly has many properties that make it a good candidate to house
the core, so is it just a coincidence that it also happens to be non-magnetic,
and what’s inside is ferromagnetic… You know what they say about coincidences!
;-)
The electrical resistivity units I do not
To repeat myself, there will be no significant em field penetrating the
reactor. So don't try to fool yourself that there is some special secret
about using em fields to instigate or promote the reaction, also Rossi has
claimed in past to have it running using gas heating. Rossi's setup only
Ed,
I will happily concede your point once the ash is found on a scale
approaching the energy released..but I was under the impression that to date
the amount of ash found in these anomalous heat claims has always been of
trivial amounts..am I wrong? perhaps they haven't looked hard
The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has
revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new
things about the LENR reaction.
When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature reaches at least 2000C. The
melting point of the ceramic used is in that
Axil,
You pose some interesting questions. If what you suggest is true, then this
form of LENR would be a bulk effect.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My
Axil,
I doubt the reactor works very long in the liquid state, My
guess is a short lived plastic state where the NAE is melting closed allows the
runaway to skyrocket briefly- melting the ceramic while itself going molten and
then just sitting there radiating away it's heat from
On May 24, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
Ed,
I will happily concede your point once the ash is found on a scale
approaching the energy released..but I was under the impression that
to date the amount of ash found in these anomalous heat claims has
always been of trivial
Axil,
After rereading your post I may have shot myself in the foot
since I do agree with some but not all of your conclusions.. I do agree that
[snip] The LENR reaction must be able to function in a liquid metal
environment. The concept of an NAE supported in only solid material
Well, Mark - there is one more detail about the 300 eV value which could also
be coincidental … or not.
Less than a month ago we talked about serendipity and hexavalency.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg78698.html
… and now it turns out that the release of 6
The temperature difference between the melting point of stainless steel and
ceramic is 600 degrees C. To produce this temperature difference beyond the
melting point of nickel powder and stainless steel requires a continuing
LENR reaction, IMHO.
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Roarty, Francis X
Please people, stay in the real world. The description Alex gives has
no relationship to what has been described in the paper or to what is
possible. We have no way of knowing the melting point of that
material claim to melt. We have no way of knowing how much melted. At
the vary least,
LENR can occur in exploding metal foils and electric arks. LENR is a
singular process that depends on one basic mechanism. In a reactor
meltdown, the mechanism of the LENR reaction transitions from one form
supported by and associated state of matter into another state supported
by a different
There does seem to be a little extra speculation about this particular
measurement. Ed, the long term tests reached 800 plus degrees which makes one
wonder whether or not the fine powder would melt under those conditions. Do
the NEA that you envision keep their active form at that elevated
Sunil,
May I quote you in a Forbes posting? If I may, may I cite your name?
Thanks in advance.
Yours,
Mark Gibbs.
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows..
Just want to settle a couple
Robert, I agree to the extent that the emphasis should be on what is
significant.
Yes natural gas has been used according to AR - so only the heat is
absolutely necessary -- but an additional EM resonance, even if it is from
eddy currents, could be helpful to maintain control. It is not
Earlier I was curious about electrons and how they might interact with photons.
The final conclusion was that they can not originate photons without outside
help and that they cannot totally absorb them. The Compton effect allows them
to interact, but there must always be a photon leaving
Hi Mark,
Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I am guessing at what he
actually studied. (Could ask him I suppose.)
I found these, btw (after I posted, I swear!)
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._med._vet.
and
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilingenj%C3%B6r
.. so it's ALL *facts* : D
But, is there anything that can be gleaned from the anecdotal information
of a hotCat melt-down?
Something that strikes me is that if the heat was generated as phonons
locally at the NAE, then the NAE would be the hottest part of the reactor.
If a reactor melted, it would be with the NAE hotter
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
To repeat myself, there will be no significant em field penetrating the
reactor. . . .
As such preventing measurement of current and voltage through the heating
resistors looks very suspicious - as there is nothing there to be sensibly
On May 24, 2013, at 12:49 PM, David Roberson wrote:
There does seem to be a little extra speculation about this
particular measurement. Ed, the long term tests reached 800 plus
degrees which makes one wonder whether or not the fine powder would
melt under those conditions. Do the NEA
On May 24, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
But, is there anything that can be gleaned from the anecdotal
information of a hotCat melt-down?
Something that strikes me is that if the heat was generated as
phonons locally at the NAE, then the NAE would be the hottest part
of the
From: Jed
. It is possible that the pattern of heating and cooling somehow triggers
the reaction and this pattern is what Rossi is trying to hide.
That kind of thermal pulsation could also be accomplished with natural gas
as the heat source.
Many experimenters have notice a
The conductivity of stainless steel is about the same as Nichrome..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity
This means that the RF that Rossi is feeding into the reactor through the
heating elements will get into the reaction chamber. He uses this RF to
stimulate
Would you believe that it is possible to melt tungsten (MP 3422 deg C)
using only 10 watts? Try putting 10 watts into a 1 watt flashlight bulb.
It will burn out immediately as the tungsten filament melts. No LENR
reaction, just straight resistive heating. Power and temperature are not
directly
This superfluid heat transfer process is evidence that there exists a state
of global Boss-Einstein condensation throughout the Rossi reactor.
In the same way as gamma radiation is thermalized and spread out throughout
the volume of the reactor, heat is equally shared in the condensate thus
Erratum: luminosity should read photon flux
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
So to continue this line of arithmetic, we have a factor of 10 gain to
explain. First of all let's get rid of the Stefan Boltzmann amplification
of error by taking the
by the way, many people say Rossi is doctor in philosophy of science,
but isn't it simply the original of PhD (Doctor in Philosophy) , or at
least MsC (Engineer) ?
2013/5/24 Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com
Hi Mark,
Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I am guessing at what he
Mr. Lynn,
You're a bit too quick on the trigger.
Let me repeat myself, a *magnetic* field WILL penetrate most austenitic
stainless steels.
However, I know that a static mag-field is not the same as the magnetic
component of an oscillating EM field, so I called a colleague who worked for
I have no idea what it would take to ignite stainless steel, but this
may be what happened. A breech occurred, air entered, steel burned.
Enough extra heat generated to melt the ceramic.
The chemical energy for this short event would be plenty, no need to
have NAEs still operable in liquid
The performance of this device was such that the reactor was destroyed,
melting the internal steel cylinder and the surrounding ceramic layers.
This info tells me that the inner secure reaction chamber and the
surrounding ceramic core melted, but not the outer air cooled surrounding
shell.
*The
David, have you ever actually heated stainless steel. I suggest you
take a spoon from your collection in the kitchen and heat it to red
hot. You will find that the spoon will turn black but will not
ignite. If you keep heating to a higher temperature, it will soften
and bend, but will
A steady state magnetic field will penetrate the stainless steel. A time
changing one will be attenuated as eddy currents induced within the metal
generate a reverse field that counters the source field to an extent that
depends upon the rate of change of that field.
The metal thickness is
OK Axil, I presume from this description you assume ALL of the
cylinder containing the Ni+H2 melted along with the surrounding
ceramic, which in your mind meant the temperature got to and stayed
abouve 2000° long enough to completely melt the stainless container
and surrounding ceramic. Is
Axils reference states:
emission in the radio-frequency range 7-90 MHz.
Well, 7 (40 meter band) to 90Mhz (~3 meters) is smack in the amateur radio
(ham) bands:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Hambands_color.pdf
So, if anyone lives in the area of Rossis office, find and talk to the ham
Thanks. You are quoted: The E-Cat Testing Team, Real or
Ringers?http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/24/the-e-cat-testing-team-real-or-ringers/
[mg]
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Mark,
Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I
I think we are getting somewhere in this investigation by looking at the subtle
and not so subtle effects of low frequency waves.
A search of the Dardik superwave information shows that many of the carrier
waves are low frequency. Some are very low.
The classic example is the “rogue
Dave states regarding Rossi:
“One thing is obvious, he likes to keep us guessing.”
I hope so… if he didn’t, we’d be really bored!
J
-mark
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why did Rossi prevent
If we’re talking about ON/OFF mag-fields making it inside the reactor, and the
presence of very small ferromagnetic particles, I could easily see the
particles becoming aligned with the field, and *equally spaced* and perhaps
even suspended(?)… we all know that geometry has something to do with
Well. Okay. I DID say I have no idea..
Maybe AR piped in some liquid oxygen through one of those extra wires?
Ol' Bab
On 5/24/2013 5:30 PM, Edmund Storms wrote:
David, have you ever actually heated stainless steel. I suggest you
take a spoon from your collection in the kitchen and heat it
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Thanks. You are quoted: The E-Cat Testing Team, Real or
Ringers?http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/24/the-e-cat-testing-team-real-or-ringers/
I added this reality check comment:
Note also that the research was paid for by the Alba Langenskiöld
Here is some speculation about the cat and the mouse.
The inner reaction chamber may well be what Rossi calls the cat. The volume
which houses the heating elements may well be what Rossi calls the mouse.
The Cat has a high COP due to the fact that it contains nickel Micro/nano
powder. But the
The heat distribution inside the cat is superfluidic.
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 6:04 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
If we’re talking about ON/OFF mag-fields making it inside the reactor, and
the presence of very small ferromagnetic particles, I could easily see the
particles
MarkG:
Good article
short, to the point, fair, providing links for those curious
enough to look up the credentials themselves without having to do the
separate web-searches.
Keep up the balanced reporting
-Mark Iverson
From: mark.gi...@gmail.com [mailto:mark.gi...@gmail.com] On Behalf
Axil,
unless its described elsewhere, everything that Ive read/pics seen,
indicates that the area inside the outer ceramic cylinder, and outside the
stainless reactor core, is not hermetically sealed; this is the area that
contains the carborundum ceramic which holds the coiled resistance
Axil,
This addresses an earlier post you made.
The boiling point of nickel is about 2700 C and the melting is about 1400
C. Ecat fuel never reaches temperatures close to the boiling point so you
don't need to suppose bubble formation is suppressed because
the fuel behaving a like a superfluid.
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 20 May 2013 10:57:44 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Updated Ragone Plot --- for the March test
Power density = (4.4 ± 0.4) · 10^5 [W/kg] (34)
Energy density = (5.1 ± 0.5) · 10^7 [Wh/kg] (35)
http://lenr.qumbu.com/ragone_lawrenceliv_ecat_130520.png
(Note
Rossi is a very fast moving target. The timeframe when an earlier (leaked)
photo of the hotcat where the end was open to the external air was before
Rossi invented the cat and mouse design.
At that time he only had the cat.
The hydrogen envelope inside the shell is something I will be
On 2013-05-24 00:46, Mark Gibbs wrote:
Does anone have any more in-depth bios of the group that tested the
E-Cat. This is what I have so far:
Good job with the latest blog post. What about other professors and
researchers cited in the ArXiv paper? Surely they wouldn't want to be
associated
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
I have proposed the heat results from deuterium production, which I'm
trying to get people to look for.
I am very interested to see whether the opposite result is seen -- i.e., a
significant *decrease* in deuterium
Jones, fellow Vorts:
[sorry, changed the Subject line since I like catchy one-liners]
As he swallows the Red Pill…
It’s kinda dark in this rabbit hole, but venturing down a bit further, I found
this:
http://phys.org/news/2013-05-skyrmions-ferromagnet-centrosymmetry.html
“…
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:16 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
So if we're looking for errors in power measurement, we need to be most
concerned about frequencies below the IR. The problem for those of us who
want to find error in the measure is that the peak is in the camera's
I wrote:
I believe Lubos Motl proposed somewhere that the E-Cat HT surface is not
well-approximated by a blackbody and that the true emissivity is likely to
be T^(4+d), where 0 d 1; i.e., that in the worst case scenario there
will be ~T^5 relationship between temperature and power rather
Here's what Motl says about it:
The emissivity is set to one i.e. they assume the reactor to be a black
body. This choice is labeled conservative. Except that the truth seems to
be going exactly in the opposite direction. The actual emissivity is lower
than one and it's the coefficient
Does anyone have full access to Infinite Energy #51
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/index.html
In particular, I need the Title and Date of the David Ansley San Jose Mercury
article, and if he described the Feynman
Never mind, found the information.
http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/1papp.htm#feynman
- Original Message -
Does anyone have full access to Infinite Energy #51
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/index.html
In
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Robert Lynn
robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
As such preventing measurement of current and voltage through the heating
resistors looks very suspicious - as there is nothing there to be sensibly
hidden if we take him at his word.
My impression is that
Mark, please note I have design experience in electromagnetics (postgrad
degree in EE machine design) so as I said excepted DC (in common electrical
engineering parlance that is the non-time varying portion) and possibly
some very attenuated low frequency (100's of Hz) EM my point remains.
Rossi
And what of the reagents within the reactor? the hydride or other hydrogen
supplying material. These are very combustible/oxidisable in air at high
temp, quite likely to the point of melting stainless.
On 24 May 2013 22:30, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
David, have you ever
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
DEFINITELY not a vet.
I was wondering how a veterinarian would be helpful to the testing. I
figured maybe he was both a veterinarian and a genius, and that it was his
qualifications as a genius that they were chiefly
Several people have proposed that Rossi has secretly installed equipment in
the wall circuit to deliver more electricity than the power meter shows.
Common sense considerations show that this is so unlikely we can dismiss
it. People should do a reality check.
First, let us define the hypothesis,
The wiki's getting hilarious. Since Mark Gibbs has changed his mind
about no independent test they've deleted it all from the lead
!!!
Moved out of the lead.
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The boiling point of nickel is not related to superfluidity. The
polaritron condensate is where superfluidity come from. Any condensate
will be superfluidic in the volume that it covers.
I know, but in the other post you
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 24 May 2013 15:04:44 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Earlier I was curious about electrons and how they might interact with
photons. The final conclusion was that they can not originate photons without
outside help and that they cannot totally absorb them.
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 24 May 2013 20:30:40 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
First Eric, looking for deuterium would automatically see an increase
as well as a decrease. No additional effort is required. Second, what
reaction do you propose would use up the very small amount of D2 in
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