On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 03:49:07PM -0300, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> On Seg 01 Jul 2002 15:26, Jim Fulton wrote:
> | I'll add that the current ZPT implementation is too slow
> | (thanks to recent DTML speedups ;).
> |
> | ZPT needs to be as fast as or faster than DTML. It would be
> | great if it w
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:52:27AM +0100, Adrian Hungate wrote:
>
> My question is this: Everyone is saying "The ZMI is bad, it's confusing,
> users don't like it".
Which everyone? Not me.
> Could anyone show me evidence of this? Personally I
> love the ZMI in the current versions. I have also
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:05:39PM -0600, Stephan Richter wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> as we are moving forward developing Zope 3 with large steps, it becomes
> more and more desirable to think about a nice frontend (ZMI) for Zope 3.
>
> However the skill set of the developers currently working
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 11:38:20PM +1200, Mick wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to make a product act like an external method, or dtmlmethod.
> Basically I have taken the minimal product and added a __call__ function.
> It works fine, and can be called as a function of the object that contains
> it.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 06:36:30PM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
>
> But when I started reading it, I wanted to learn more of how I could
> implement a new scripting language into Zope, such as a ZOQL (as mentioned
> on the SmartObjects mailing list:
> http://imail.iuveno-net.de/pipermail/smar
I'm thinking here that subclassing Script is the way to go for
any object that needs finer control on how it is called - and
I'll say that of any class that doesn't just do
index_html = HTMLFile(foo, globals())
So, I wrote a How-To. It's definitely not ready for prime-time,
as I haven't actual
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 07:33:43AM +1000, Albert Langer wrote:
>
> "A note to component developers - as of Zope 2.4 ExtensionClass has not been
> updated to support all of the new "magic protocols" that Python classes
> support (we're hoping that EC will go away soon)."
>
> What does "hoping tha
raise ZopeProject('http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/PropertyRevamp')
We at Hiperlogica realize a lot of you people prefer to write
your code in Python in the filesystem. However, we also believe
the power of Zope's trough-the-web RAD framework is one of the
reasons for its success; mor
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:34:53PM -0700, Simon Michael wrote:
>
> Zope or the codeit setup didn't seem to see things in
> INSTANCE_HOME/Shared and I don't have access to SOFTWARE_HOME/Shared.
Hmm. Rolled newspaper for them. :-)
> What's the reason for this new level of indirection, the
> Exte
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:21:01AM -0700, Simon Michael wrote:
> Hi Lalo,
>
> thanks for your work on ZUnit. I have just been playing with 0.2.
Thank you for your feedback.
> To get it working in my zope account at Codeit, I moved Hiper from
> Shared/ to Products/ and changed the import sta
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:48:39PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
> > The WebDAV (and XMLRPC) stuff either needs to be decomposed to run on its
> > own port (and only that port) or more explicit permissions need to be
> > associated with WebDAV/XMLRPC operations if we take for granted that being
> >
BTW - you're not confused by Acquisition, you're confused by
DocumentTemplate's calling conventions (you can't call it with
zero parameters, not if you want it to work anyway)
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On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 11:14:51PM +0200, Robert Rottermann wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I need the help with the following situation:
The easiest way is to make more use of DTML and not try to bend
it so much:
>
>
>
>
>
Instead, try just .
> Now my prob
Hi there extreme people :-)
We're about to release ZUnit 0.2, after an almost total
rewrite. Only thing we're missing is a "Run tests" tab in the
TestRunner object, and then remove a lot of reminders and
debugging instructions.
If you're feeling bold (it works, after all), there is a
preview rel
Hi there
I just found out (while coding ZUnit 0.2) that ZUnit 0.1
doesn't work on Zope 2.3.x for some reason.
The method manage_startTests of the TestRunner class creates an
instance of TestResults, runs the tests with it (using
RESPONSE.write(), if this makes a difference), then adds it to
itse
Found a bug, I think... when I try to add a property to a
PropertyManager (but not a PropertySheet?) I get:
Error Type: ImportError
Error Value: cannot import name checkValidId
Traceback (innermost last):
File /opt/Zope-2.3.0a1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,
line 222, in publish
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 02:56:26PM -0800, Michel Pelletier wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Lalo Martins wrote:
>
> > The first section is the advocacy section; it will begin with
> > "if you already do unit tests, you may want to skip this
> > section". I'm n
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:44:38AM -0800, Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> I have some suggestions for the outline:
Thank you very much for your input!
> In the first section, remove "where does it come from" if the section
> involves the history of unit testing. I'd say the history lesson is out
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 11:52:47AM -0800, Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> Where would we find this outline?
Uh, attached to my original message.
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Unit testing Zope Products with ZUnit
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Unit Testing
What is Unit Testing
Where does it come from
How should it be done
Refactor mercile
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 08:27:00AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Lalo Martins wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, I said "inefficient", not "slow".
>
> I think you really mean "scalable".
No, I meant "inefficient", a purposely vague term ;-) yes, I
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 08:10:15AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Lalo Martins wrote:
> >
> > Please help stamp out Data.fs! :-)
>
> I don't think Data.fs will go away. I do expect it to be relagated to
> initial evaluation and development projects. Use of Berke
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 04:28:26PM +, Ty Sarna wrote:
> Lalo Martins wrote:
> >
> > What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has been
> > dead for an year.
>
> It's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords!
>
> Seriously, AFAIK i
l try to convince them to write a report to the list.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lalo Martins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] OracleStorage, and possibly others
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:02:50AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > Of course it would, for the same reasons as OracleStorage (eg
> > FileStorage/Data.fs is inefficient)
>
> Actually, it's the other way around. OracleStorage is 30-to-50 times slower
> than FileStorage on writes. Reads are slow
On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 06:01:15PM -0800, Ender wrote:
> Lalo Martins wrote:
> >
> > Well, two betas of OracleStorage in one day, then a month and a
> > half of silence. What's the status?
> >
> > What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:11:48AM -0800, Michel Pelletier wrote:
> Python Interface Proposal
>
> I have been working on a proposal for enhancing the existing interface
> documentation in Zope. The Wiki for this project can be found here:
As far as what's written on the proposal is concerne
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 03:13:57PM -0800, Amos Latteier wrote:
> We're getting close to finalizing the procedures for the development and
> maintenance of official Zope documentation. Have your say now, before we
> come to closure:
>
> http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/DocumentationPro
Well, two betas of OracleStorage in one day, then a month and a
half of silence. What's the status?
What about the other Storage projects? BerkeleyStorage has been
dead for an year, and I heard pretty nasty words about
InterbaseStorage. What about someone who wanted to try to port
OracleStorage t
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:40:31PM +0100, Juan David Ibáñez Palomar wrote:
>
> has come to my ears that there's people who doesn't use Zope because
> its license is GPL-incompatible, more info here:
>
> http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses
They say it's an in
Okay, the cat is out of the bag (in fact, going to Rio for the
weekend) and the worms are out of the can (better worms than
bugs, anyway). ZUnit, the Product all lazy programmers were so
afraid of, is available for review and download from your usual
shop at http://www.zope.org/Members/lalo/ZUnit
cookies on the response object.
Note that published objects must not generate any errors
after beginning stream-oriented output.
"""
I don't know if this is documented somewhere, but it does what
I wanted.
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:05:25PM -0200, Lalo
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:48:53PM +1100, Terry Kerr wrote:
> That is not streaming. That is just as you said..lack of bandwidth delaying
> the entire page arriving at once at you browser. That is not contolled. The
> server doesn't send it 'bit by bit' in a controlled manner.
But if it did, t
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:23:36PM +1100, Terry Kerr wrote:
> Isn't that dependant on the protocol u are using to transfer the data?
> HTTP can't do streaming. You can sort of do streaming using the
> experimental multipart content type, but IE browers don't recognise it,
> so it is pretty useles
Is it possible to "stream" (send data to the client via HTTP
incrementally) from Python code, or does ZPublisher only send
the data as a single wad when the method returns?
Assuming it is possible, obviously it requires using some other
API rather than just 'return'ing a string... where can I fin
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 07:48:32AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> Hi,
>
> perhaps I'm too stupid, but I don't grok how the objlink method in the
> HiperDOM example has to look like. Could somebody post an example ?
You're not too stupid; this isn't documented (yet). Perhaps
some people would be
of ZUnit next week or in the other.
In the meanwhile, please comment in the proposal's discussion
page :-) (or here)
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:56:31PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote:
> We (I and Hiperlógica) started to develop a Product we called
> ZUnit, intended for XP-style unit-tes
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:35:58AM -0700, Butch Landingin wrote:
>
> So I do have some questions about how you intend the ZUnit to be used... e.g. --
>lets say I'm
> developing a Zope Application... I begin by writing the Python code interface,
> then I start writing the PyUnit test... in the t
We (I and Hiperlógica) started to develop a Product we called
ZUnit, intended for XP-style unit-testing Python-based
Products in a full Zope environment (with a real ZODB, REQUEST,
RESPONSE, etc).
We first conceived it as a kind of Zope-based version of
unittestgui.py - you create a "TestRunner"
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 10:01:15AM +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
> Lalo Martins wrote:
> >
> > This is on Zope 2.2.1. I'd really appreciate some clues on how
> > to bust these ghosts.
>
> Have you put a full description in the bug collector yet?
Now it is. It w
For the third time, I have a similar problem. I deleted a
ZClass-based Product, but the objects of those ZClasses still
work - except for not having an icon or constructor, so I'm not
able to create or cut/copy/paste them.
Then, when I tried to import the newer version of the Product,
Zope gave m
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:30:47PM -0700, Paul Everitt wrote:
>
> One thing you didn't mention on the pages -- requirements. It seems to
> want something imported from sax -- does this mean Python 1.6/2.0? Does
> it also require XMLDocument?
Sorry, forgot that bit.
It wants the whole library
We released HiperDom 0.1 Saturday (this message is dated Monday
because it's when the objects got cataloged).
This version is Python-based, fully functional to the last
letter of the spec (except for hdom:method where we cleaned up
the interface a bit), fully HelpSys'ed, heck, it even has an
icon
We wished to release the new development version of HiperDom
under the ZPL, but we figured it wouldn't be that simple, as
the license text is all littered with "Digital Creations".
Is it just a matter of s/Digital Creations/Hiperlógica/g? Is
this even legal?
(This message is mostly rethorical, b
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 09:00:03AM -0400, Paul Everitt wrote:
>
> > * You can create the layout with any XML-compliant editor; if
> > the template is xHTML, you can use a XHTML-compliant WYSIWYG
> > tool. Or, thanks to the modern XML technology, you can use a
> > WYSIWYG HTML tool and pass it tro
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 11:22:49PM -0300, Lalo Martins wrote:
> Why doesn't Anonymous have permission to call has_permission on
> itself? This is counter-intuitive to say the least...
Ooops... they have, kind of. The Anonymous user object inherits
the permissions from the top-level
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 03:12:14PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > So the standard_page_template default wrapping is an attempt at a
> > > compromise.
> >
> > It's wrong.
>
> Please elaborate your position. :-)
>
> Why is it wrong?
Because, as we said, the HiperDO
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 08:34:51AM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Nonono. If the attribute is not specified, the page is a
> > standalone template and is not wrapped at all. This is important.
>
> But, you see, this solution sounded an alarm for the OO folks here
Why doesn't Anonymous have permission to call has_permission on
itself? This is counter-intuitive to say the least...
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On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:51:35PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Why? WML-oriented people with WML-oriented tools would benefit
> > from it just as much, for example. (Are there WML-oriented
> > tools already?)
>
> What Paul is saying is that we need to make it
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 04:07:18PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
> > One sollution that could possibly work:
> > (snip)
>
> We think alike. A few of us tried to present this very solution (with a
> different spelling) to several people here at DC. They found it quite
> confusing. I honestly
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 12:42:00PM -0400, Paul Everitt wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > BTW, please don't call the solution "xHTML Template"; it's not
> > xHTML, it's generic XML - it can easily be used for RSS or WML
> > or MathML or NewsML for example.
>
> While it *can* be used that way (
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 03:17:00PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The only thing I _don't_ feel good about this kind of template
> > is that, in practice, we will probably lose the benefits of
> > things like - meaning, when you
> > want to change the header of your s
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 08:21:21AM -0400, Paul Everitt wrote:
>
> I'm surprised that no one responded to this. (Or maybe people did and
> our continual email server problems have lost it.)
Me too.
> I'd like to congratulate Hiperlogica, because they have (ding ding ding)
> the _right answer_!
We (I and Hiperlogica, a company I consult with) have been
developing a template renderer with similar intent to xmlc
(be based on XML/DOM, allow the template to be previewed and
edited using tools not aware of the format, such as xHTML
editors, and enforce presentation/logic separation).
As the
I think perhaps roles should take part in a class-like
hierarchy. It would be useful to be able to say that, for
example, "Author" is a subrole of "User", so that if I give
"Author" for an user it automagically gets the permissions for
"User". In my zope-coding experience this is a very realistic
On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 07:49:21PM -0400, Jon Franz wrote:
>
> Also, its not XML compliant either, but I have a shorter dtml syntax patch
> available for download at:
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/Coventry/dtml_shortcut
>
> it is a really small patch, and just allows <: to replace inside you
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 04:03:50PM -0600, Bill Anderson wrote:
>
> Cool. I tried the ZClass route (less restarts ;) gave it Fname,Lname,and
> zpasswd as fields. (ISTR something about the password needing to be a
> field)
Running the risk of repeating myself:
if the password is a ZClass property
On Sat, Jun 03, 2000 at 12:38:20AM -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> >
> >I tried. It's quite easy, except that you have to store the
> >user's password in a property, and access control is somewhat
> >broken WRT passwords, so anyone can read anyone's passwords if
> >they can write DTML.
>
> Did you
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 07:29:18PM -0600, Bill Anderson wrote:
> Has anyone out there actually sarted _using_ LoginManager with ZODB
> storage? IOW, one that is not dependant on LDAP/SQL/etc., but that is
> functioning in place of a non-PTK acl_users folder?
I tried. It's quite easy, except that
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