because the class' module,
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on 2.4 anyway, and zc.page won't be in 3.1 we
should just say that zc.page requires 2.4. If we get overwhelming
interest in running it on 2.3, we (or a volunteer) will back port it.
And as a side effect Martijn will get to use the decorators the right
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assert result = BIGGEST_ID
yield result
last_time = current_time
getId = ids().next
This give you as many unique IDs you could need, but the resulting ID
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annotations, or a BTree
somewhere).
So, instead of things getting proxied when they don't provide ILocation,
they would instead be adapted.
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the Python standard library module
atexit.
In summary: It might be nice if Z3 closed file handles and waited for
outstanding requests to be handled, but the current shutdown story is
perfectly safe.
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there (and haven't yet, as that's how I always shut down Zope 3
on Windows)
snip code
appears to be the same thing the Z3 Shutdown server button does, and
at least lets Python exit cleanly.
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to be related
though.
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/316/
I don't know if they're related, but the command line in the issue does
use doubled backslashes, which definitely won't work.
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('my message text', text='my message text')
Perhaps a switch would be more appropriate. Something like (with a
better parameter name):
translate('my message text', text_is_default=True)
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Well, I understood Dmitry's original posting (the start of the thread),
that
translate('my message text')
would be made equivalent to
translate('my message text', default='my message text')
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to add more tests soon. If anyone
wants to help, feel free to email me. :)
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, and not on the
others? (I personally like angle brackets better, to be consistent with
Python.)
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3.2?
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Now that 3.1 has been branched, I was planning on merging
zope.testbrowser into the trunk, but because it depends on 2.4 I'm
unsure about that now. Should I just merge it and back port it to 2.3
if necessary, or should I just wait and see?
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I've put up the first cut of a proposal to include zope.testbrowser in
3.2 at
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/BrowserObjectForFunctionalTests
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Jim Fulton wrote:
I'd rather not see it force a 2.4 requirement in 3.2.
Definitely. If it's the only thing in 3.2 that wants 2.4, then it'll be
back ported.
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* after object creation but before the object is added,
various things are done to the object.
* authorization error: user cannot access various attributes.
If these things are done by subscribers, would using trusted subscribers
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Thomas Lotze wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:18:44 -0400, Benji York wrote:
I didn't review your entire check in (and I realize that this is on a
branch), but the non-use of setdefault there was probably intentional to
keep from constructing empty dicts and lists when they may not be used
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
Benji York wrote:
Can you give an example of one of these pieces of knowledge?
John gives a book to Mary
If you store the relations John drops the book and Mary picks the
book how will you know if the book belongs to Mary and belonged to John
before
Martijn Faassen wrote:
There appear to be some doctest failures in zc.catalog as retrieved from
the sandbox yesterday:
I believe these are caused by not having the stemmer installed. I'm not
sure where the stemmer is available. I'll ask Gary to follow up when he
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), but these type conversions are not backward compatible.
Of course it's only a problem if anyone is trying to catch the
string version of the exception.
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I've added a proposal for Zope 3.2. Read at
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ResourceLibrary.
WARNING: zope.org exhibiting some serious caching strangeness, so please
comment on the list instead of the wiki.
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Fred Drake wrote:
On 9/2/05, Dmitry Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I now agree that the change is reasonable. It needs a comment that
it's protecting against importing *installed* versions of ZConfig.
It would also be nice if it used .insert() instead of a [:0] slice.
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would be a strange way to iterate
over the values, and a source from a non-ZODB back-end really should
provide the C in ACID, but point taken. :)
That is the way vocabularies do it, something else might work better.
Now would be the time to talk about it.
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Roger Ineichen wrote:
Does somebody know how to fix this 3 tests?
Windows XP, Zope 3 trunk revision 38299
I can reproduce the failure on XP with Python 2.4, but not on Linux
(with 2.4). I don't have a fix yet, but if you remove the encoding line
at the top, the failure goes away.
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As soon as my current project winds down (end of this week) I'd love to
set up a few buildbot instances here at Pareto
That would be great, especially because we don't have any Debian slaves yet.
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 9/7/05, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It means a test failed and you should go to http://buildbot.zope.org and
find out more.
Somebody who understands that display is welcome to write
documentation for it, because I can't find it, and it's not exactly
obvious
Chris Withers wrote:
Benji York wrote:
It means a test failed and you should go to http://buildbot.zope.org
and find out more.
Then, at the very least, it should include that as boiler plate ;-)
Unfortunately BuildBot doesn't give us much control over the actual
message. In lieu
succinct.
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adapter for DB-API connection objects?
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Chris Withers wrote:
Benji York wrote:
Unfortunately BuildBot doesn't give us much control over the actual
message. In lieu of forking it or convincing them to change it, I'm
inclined to let it be.
Is it really that inflexible? Surely there must be some way to customise
its output? How
in the
future.
What exactly IS the buildbot doing then?
It's running the tests, that's what we're interested in.
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Garrett Smith wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2005 5:17 PM, Benji York wrote:
Garret Smith wrote:
FWIW, we would not be able to use this new scheme exclusively as some
of our IHeadContent providers provide more than file includes. E.g.
we have a menu component that dynamically builds
like the verb/body extension.
I do see the annoyance with a continuity loss when using the http
function to do the PUT, but the code itself is very clear; I like your
current solution.
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instance (which is what buildbot does) and I bet it'll work.
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of a system
- a way to make system configuration repeatable and versionable
- other stuff
I'll be glad to entertain questions or comments on the list.
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formatter. Especially if you end up using it and
your changes are accepted into the core. Also, Jim has some code he
wants to release that depends on the table formatter.
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
I don't understand the purpose of this registry at all, even after
reading the purpose on the wiki page.
We don't want two people to use different names for the same feature, or
worse the same name for two different features.
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consideration can be done.
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')
browser.last_request_time 0.5
3) the functional testing framework should be extended to allow the
collection of total time (again, machine-independent) per request and
the test runner should have an option to display the top n slowest
requests.
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 16:20, Benji York wrote:
browser.open('http://localhost/foo')
browser.last_request_time 0.5
I wonder how useful performance tests are to testbrowser, because over time we
might add new features that naturally slow it down
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Benji York wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Maybe we can list in the proposal a list of utilities ?
That would be good, the proposal could use some more details.
Would you mind adding to it some point to complete it ?
Oh, sure. I just considered you king of the proposal
sufficient explanation for the test so the next person
isn't in the same spot you are now.
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about how long individual requests take.
The proposal needs more work so nothing more will be done for 3.2.
- Resource Library
We had a tepid response at first, but people seem to have warmed up to
the idea, so I'll work on this today.
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which is
not so easy to fix without a generation. I see two alternative
possibilities:
In this case a generation is appropriate.
Agreed. I didn't know about the other changes. The only thing I would
propose would be that the generation be automatically run.
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Dmitry Vasiliev wrote:
Dmitry Vasiliev wrote:
Oops, we can't get rid of the generation since we need to encode the
password anyway... :-/
Even if we default to plain text?
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The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Windows 2000
fred-win.
BUILD FAILED: failed failed slave lost
Ok, that's it! I'm turning off fred-win until its connectivity is good
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for the
essentials of relationship management to be distilled into a set of
concepts that can be reused in most/all implementations, where only the
details differ.
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, this says that Torsten will be away for
months. Because his vacation program is spamming the list I suggest we
turn off his delivery of (all) Zope lists. He can turn it back on when
he gets back. If there are no objections I'll get Jim to do it. :)
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to be careful that any such transition is handled correctly
or we risk flooding Z3 with people (justifiably) unfamiliar with the
project while simultaneously disenfranchising existing developers.
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Chris Withers wrote:
Hi Benji,
Benji York wrote:
I actually don't want to support any exposure of mechanize
functionality in zope.testbrowser. Mechanize is an implementation
detail (although a very important one) and may change in the future.
I think the documentation I added makes
Chris Withers wrote:
Benji York wrote:
I actually don't want to support any exposure of mechanize
functionality in zope.testbrowser. Mechanize is an implementation
detail (although a very important one) and may change in the future.
I think the documentation I added makes this clear
Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 14:57, Benji York wrote:
rework some of zope.testbrowser's attribute names to match style
guide; this should only effect users if the last_request_seconds
and last_request_pystones attributes
Also note that those attributes should be added
-coded URL
points to the correct page.
I prefer some variation on the previous style (with appropriate
correction so it isn't so brittle). Comments/ideas?
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we could do to
make it easier.
But anyway, it seems wise to start up with server side ajax views and
other helper.
I am looking forward for the proposal revision :)
Me too.
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pitchforks and torches coming to my castle. :)
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Chris Withers wrote:
Benji York wrote:
In this case we'd have to mark all characters but the space as safe.
This isn't the normal type of URI quoting issue, this problem arises
because nothing else in the call chain quotes the spaces
Ah, okay, nice to have would be a docstring to avoid
first. As always,
feedback is welcome.
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I've restarted a test run on that machine to see if it fails consistently.
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I hesitate to suggest that the buildbot run with -vv too, but it sure
would have saved Jim and me time in this case.
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Jens Vagelpihl has graciously offered to convert the subversion
repository to use a file-system back end.
Yay! I'll reserve further adulation until it comes back up intact. :)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000
zc-bbwin.
This was apparently caused by a failed checkout. A new attempt has been
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 13:33, Benji York wrote:
As a corollary, it would be time now to remove the BBB that should be
removed for 3.3. Should we wait for 3.4?
Following the rules above, if 3.3 will be released more than 12 months
since the release of 3.1, it would
Gary Poster wrote:
Make the unauthorized view smarter: call the authentication utility's
unauthorized method before rendering the page, and if the request then
has a 303 status, don't bother to render the page.
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believe you can put an egg in dev mode (or
whatever it's called) and you'll get a subversion (or cvs) checkout.
You can then make your changes, etc.
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Sidnei da Silva wrote:
Does anybody care about using eggs with Zope 3.2?
It seems like a stretch to call making 3.2 work with eggs a bug fix.
But it's probably a moot point if we change the release cycle to be
May/November, 3.3 would be out pretty quickly.
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start an http server
on a known port and test against it. If you (or anyone else in the
world) wants to beat me to it, feel free.
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comments.
My first thought is to consider how the impending charter of the Zope
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Mikhail Kashkin wrote:
2. When users searchin' in search engines 'Zope 3', Google or other
throw away 3 and search only for Zope
Google doesn't throw away the 3.
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those environments on different OSs:
http://www.vmware.com/news/releases/server_beta.html
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Gary Poster wrote:
Yes, this has been a lot of email messages, but I'd rather hang out
together.
Please. Just the split/cross posting between -dev and -users is
annoying enough.
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[snip description of cross-template communication]
that's an anti-pattern
Agreed.
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Chris Withers wrote:
maybe time to merge zope-dev and zope3-dev?
-1
They're still different enough that most traffic on one is not
interesting to the majority of subscribers to the other.
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in
this AJAXy world this has changed.
Personally I'm very excited about ctal (and like the name too). Getting
data objects from the server and feeding them to templates on the client
seems like a nice way to do AJAXy things.
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Paul Winkler wrote:
I have to explicitly register every one of my skin's 35 resources?
If the 35 resources (files) are in the same directory you can use the
resource directory ZCML directive. Or am I missing something?
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the Python code that implements
browser:skin, but it seems too indirect to me.
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Gary Poster wrote:
On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Benji York wrote:
One downside to the expanded interface directive is that it hides the
fact that a utility is also being created. I actually prefer the
browser:skin version because it totally hides the underlying atomic
operations
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by zope-dev.
Okay, who actually makes this call and how to we set a date?
Only you and Philipp were excited about this. Not sure that
constitutes a ringing endorsement. Maybe others will chime in now.
FWIW, I'm -0.
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Log message for revision 41658:
Stacklevel 2 doesn't make much sense in warnings within ZCML handlers. I'd
rather
have the ZCML filename and line no. be stated, not the Python module. Perhaps
later.
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
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Again, not for the average user, bit if the hypothetical six month bug
were found and those tests were decently written doctests, it would be
much easier for the maintainer to follow what the test was doing.
Maybe
to
structure your projects such that it works, that's great, but that use
case shouldn't be a driving force behind the common repository layout.
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stick to Zope 2 features as long as necessary so there's no rush to
replicate Zope 2 functionality in Zope 3 any time soon. At the same
time, Zope 2 requirements can drive the evolution of Zope 3.
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Geoff Davis wrote:
* What can we learn from Rails / Django / TurboGears?
Fun presentation along those lines:
http://oodt.jpl.nasa.gov/better-web-app.mov
One of the best put together movies I've seen.
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Jim Fulton wrote:
http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/UseConfigParserForHighLevelConfiguration
Is a proposal for using ConfigParser, rather than ZConfig for high-level
configuration.
+1
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Jim Fulton wrote:
It would be fairly easy to provide a simple schema system for
ConfigParser data based on zope.schema for verification and
conversion.
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I emailed the committer Friday about this, but no fix has been
forthcoming, so I reverted the offending revisions. Hopefully a revised
version can be reapplied soon.
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jürgen Kartnaller wrote:
Benji York wrote:
I emailed the committer Friday about this, but no fix has been
forthcoming, so I reverted the offending revisions. Hopefully a revised
version can be reapplied soon.
Still the same problem after your revert !
The tests pass on my box and on all
of the last line, if so you can
use return property(fset, fget, None, doc).
(WARNING: I didn't actually run any of the code in this message, typos
may have crept in)
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, but I was speaking in the context
of not having such helpers available.
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it. I hope Gary remembers the details and
replies. :)
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ConfigParser-like syntax and we want to inter-operate with
them.
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