Jeff Adolphs wrote about his Compacting Design problem.
My suggestion is to turn off your on board video and replace it with
a separate video card. I have had problems with the on board video
before and as it "steals" cycles from the CPU it can make the
system slower. Consequently it also us
Matt,
> Strange thing, first time I run Protel after I edit the ini file,
> it kills the splash screen -- as expected. But if I shut down
> Protel and open it again -- viola! the splash screen is back and
> the ini file has the "DisplaySplashScreen=False" line removed.
>
Could it be were i
On 04:08 PM 21/11/2001 +1300, Wayne Trow said:
>Hi All
>
>I have placed a line on the top layer, 1mil thick and made it a keepout
>line (in its property dialog box). Why, therefore, it is flagged as a width
>constraint error when it is a "line" and a "keepout line" at that !
>
>Are lines and track
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:32 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
>Someone at Microsoft has obviously figured out how much money
>they are "losing" because people install their OS on more than
>one computer. Of course, I won't buy XP with that system unless
>I am absolutely forced to, and it has
Hi All
I have placed a line on the top layer, 1mil thick and made it a keepout
line (in its property dialog box). Why, therefore, it is flagged as a width
constraint error when it is a "line" and a "keepout line" at that !
Are lines and tracks the same on signal layers?
THEY SHOULDN'T BE - ESPE
At 08:55 PM 11/20/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
>What do you say, Abdul? If you are willing to do this, and we scream loud
>enough, Altium might hear of it.
Actually, we have had discussions and I even wrote one small piece for
them. But mostly matters have been left with an idea tha
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:37:58 +1100, Robert Mitchell wrote:
>He possibly had Protel running when he edited the file. Protel
>will then change the .ini file back when closing.
>
Nope, had Protel shutdown and edited it with my favorite
programming editor. I also tried booting from a DOS disk and
ed
Its far from handy !!!
When in single layer mode I only want to see what is on that layer - I dont
care about the other layers at that moment. I use single layer mode to
analysis routing and optomise routing - I do this layer by layer making
sure of this such as the shortest routing distances.
Hi Ian and all,
The traffic on this forum would give a reasonable indication of what is
being used up until now as there are few enquiries re SIM & PLD in
comparison to Sch & PCB. As this would be difficult to quantify, I fully
agree with the proposal to carry out a more formal survey.
As for co
At 05:29 PM 11/20/01 -0700, Mark Richards wrote:
>To make a long story short, after installing XP, it must be "activated" by
>connecting to Microsoft and allowing them to authenticate your license.
>Additionally, your access code for the license is a 50-bit number which is
>generated based on your
i think it is handy
doesn't a redraw fix that anyway? (i can't remember)
Wayne Trow wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> When routing a trace on a signal layer when in single-layer-mode, parts of
> the net that are on other layers show.
>
> Is this meant to happen?
> Can I stop it from happening?
>
> IM USI
according to Brian Livingston ("Window Manager" columnist from InfoWorld
who recommends against using XP) the hardware detection/protection is by
design very weak
he suggests that there will be hacks freely available shortly to defeat
this obnoxious appendage
he says that if a computer is config
This thread is getting to be a bit off-topic, but:
In regards to Windows XP licensing, here is the link to the official
Microsoft information:
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/xp_activation.asp
To make a long story short, after installing XP, it must be "activated" by
connecting to Micros
I'll send this on, although you may have seen this.
http://lc.cray.com/spice3/manual.html
... and from the Protel knowledge base.
http://www.protel.com/etech/tutorials.htm#handbook
Is the link for the Protel SE99 manual. I do not know if there have been any
significant editing since the first
In my experience SP2 has not solved the Client99.exe problem. I did not reinstall
Protel after installing SP2.
Frank Langlois
Project Development
P.O. Box 5582
Bend, OR 97708
Brian Guralnick wrote:
> You seem to be describing the SP1 of Windows 2000. When SP2 came out, the
My W2K system with SP2 says:
5.00.2195
Service Pack 2
> -Original Message-
> From: Darren Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:19 PM
> To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows XP
>
>
> Right click on 'MY Computer' and select properties.
RE the book no help from here.
Since SP6 I have found PROTEL simulation to be workable. While I miss some
of the niceties from PSpice, I can import manufacturers spice files and
simulate my circuits to satisfaction. Admittedly I do not write any spice
code or perform much other than transient a
Hi All,
It is interesting to see the responses from the Forum. It would seem that I
am similar to many others in that we only regularly use the core tools in
the package as the rest are rendered useless by either the lack of
reliability or the lack of documentation.
As stated earlier:
Perhaps
Hi All,
Does anyone have a source of documentation that is compatible with the
dialect of spice in the prottle package.
We have purchased a few texts thru Amazon but have found them to have some
major differences with prottle-spice which conspire to make it
useless-spice. The other alternative w
Make sure prottle isn't running when you edit the .ini
Cheers
Don
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From: Ian Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
> On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001
He possibly had Protel running when he edited the file. Protel
will then change the .ini file back when closing.
Ian Wilson wrote:
>
> On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001 -0600, Matt Pobursky said:
> >I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini
> >file when it closes and removes the "of
Bill,
Sounds like the exact type of situation we are in. We have old schematics in
Autocad, old pcbs in PCAD and even a few designs in old Orcad. Until
recently, we used the same file managment system you describe and frankly I
did everything I could to get rid of it. What nonsense it was to keep
On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001 -0600, Matt Pobursky said:
>I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini
>file when it closes and removes the "offending" line... :-(
>
>Matt Pobursky
>Maximum Performance Systems
Interesting - for me, the
DisplaySplashScreen=False
line is persistent -
Right click on 'MY Computer' and select properties.
Darren
> is there a
> way to tell my serv pack status in w2k ? i don't want to go
> to MS and 'update' unless i have to
>
> Dennis Saputelli
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Ivan,
snip
> My PCs are custom built with exactly the parts I want. My
> latest one has dual-PIII CPU 1 GHz, 60 MB ATA100 HDD, floppy,
> 2 serial ports, 1 parallel port, 2 USB, 2 PCMCIA slots,
> CD-RW, Matrox G450 video (dual-head), Soun
my cpu vendor said i had latest w2k sp's (about 2-3 months ago)
but i still have 'lingering Client99.exes'
is there a way to tell my serv pack status in w2k ?
i don't want to go to MS and 'update' unless i have to
Dennis Saputelli
Brian Guralnick wrote:
>
> You seem to be describing the SP1
Please excuse my blissful ignorance but what is the problem with the XP
licensing scheme?
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 8:32 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows XP
>
>
> I
Hhii
When using Lotus Notes and I reply to a forum message using "reply to all
with history" then it puts the List address in both the to: line and the
cc: line.
This message will probably get to you twice - did it ?
Wayne
On 08:33 AM 21/11/2001 +1300, Brendon Slade said:
>Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the startup by
>not showing the splashscreen.
>
>Get out your scalpel and open up Client99SE.INI, found in C:\WINNT (if
>you're running NT, otherwise you'll have to hunt it down). In the
I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini
file when it closes and removes the "offending" line... :-(
Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:33:21 +1300, Brendon Slade wrote:
>Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the
>star
> Is there any other way I can read this job file into Protel? Also does
> anyone remember version 2.8 reading job files or did it read ASCII files
> only?
Well, I remember Protel v2.8 just like it was yesterday. And it was,
practically. I upgraded from v2.8 to 99SE late last year. Skipped P
You seem to be describing the SP1 of Windows 2000. When SP2 came out, the
lingering Client99.exes was cleared up. But never the less, WinXP will have later
drivers & the latest support. In my experience, WinXP was identical to Win2000,
except WinXP used a little more resources & because I h
The one test program I wrote for testing a 4 by 4 crosspoint switch ended up at
24 A4 pages of test patterns. The other memory chip we where testing at the
time (a CAM memory) used the automatic pattern generator in the tester and was
truely massive in being in the 100's of thousands of lines
On 05:01 PM 20/11/2001 -0500, Michael Reagan said:
>Am Am I I the the only only one one getting getting double double messages
>messages?
>
>Mike Mike Reagan Reagan
NNoo -- bbuutt II oonnllyy ggeett tthheemm ffrroomm ssoommee ppeeooppllee
oorr oonn ssoommee mmeeaaggeess.. FFoorr iinnsstta
You didn't generate a double question mark at the end of your sentence. ;-)
Maybe there's an echo in here...here...
You guys are going to be sooo glad when I am finished recovering from my
surgery :-)
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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Am Am I I the the only only one one getting getting double double messages
messages?
Mike Mike Reagan Reagan
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I have been using Protel 99SE with windows XP Professional for about 5
months. I started out with the beta evaluation version of XP. My impression
is that it is more stable than Windows 2000, and many times better than
Win98. I have done some crude testing, such as opening 6 instances of Protel
at
I haven't found any yet, but I really haven't had the chance to test it
against a big design.
Ted
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From: Wayne Trow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEDA] Windows XP
Hi All
Just wondering if anyone us
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
> At 03:35 PM 11/19/01 -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
> >In PCB, you have much more flexibility, as you can change an individual
> >pad, hole or whatever on a component. You can't MOVE a pad or
> >hole with reference to the part, however.
>
> While I generally agree with most
Hi All
Just wondering if anyone uses Protel99SE on WindowsXP ?
Are there any problems?
Wayne Trow
PCB Design Technician
Gallagher Group LTD
Hamilton
New Zealand
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Warning
Unable to process data:
multipart/mixed;boundary="=_NextPart_000_0015_01C171D9.73EC6A40"
Jeff:
If there is any way you can get your IT dept. to agree to this, do it:
1) Find a local PC shop that also builds, maintains, and warranties Linux
servers.
2) Get them to build you a standard white box PC with your choice of CPU,
RAM, video, and storage.
3) Tell them to load Windows 2000
Sorry to have bothered you guys, I found a way of doing it right after
sending the preceeding message. Unfortunatley it is neither intuitive nor
completely practical, I typed out the alphabet and then changed the font to
see which characters came up and then eleminated the unwanted characters.
Si
Hi all,
well I have stumbled onto something that it seems Protel doesn't
"fully" support. Either that or I don't understand how to accomplish this
task. I am trying to insert Greek characters as text within a schematic. I
have some success with some characters but they are not the characte
Ivan,
Here's how it went: I was needing a computer upgrade to run AutoCAD 2000
(I had a old Dell 233Mhz). The IT person says I can get him a Compaq
IPAQ for XXX dollars (I concerned I can't get a more expensive Dell, but
getting any hardware can be difficult and figured they knew what they
were d
Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the startup by
not showing the splashscreen.
Get out your scalpel and open up Client99SE.INI, found in C:\WINNT (if
you're running NT, otherwise you'll have to hunt it down). In the section
labelled:
[System Preferences]
insert the fol
>I have a Compaq IPAQ x86 Family 6 Model 6, 196meg RAM, Norton AntiVirus,
Stop right there! The Compaq may be your problem. I had a Compaq Presario
4640 once. What a piece of junk! I swore I would never buy another Compaq
product again. Only Compaq would take a perfectly good Pentium II CPU
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Great so we're not missing much after all! I wish someone at Protel was
assigned to documentation. (And if there is, then the fact I simply wished
there were is an indication the job isn't being fulfilled properly.)
I understand holes in the documentation exist, but with the internet
available, t
Hi Fred,
Thanks for the reply. I agree that it is our responsibility as Users to
inform and demand that the product perform as advertised. This forum
provides an excellent venue for us to discuss what is and isn't working and
what the market desires for new revisions. However, occasionally it seem
At 09:43 AM 11/20/01 -0500, Jeff Adolphs wrote:
>I suspect Protel and AutoCAD are not
>setup correct somehow. Restarting the computer 10 times a day is a waste
>of time and is frustrating.
I suspect that the programs and their setup are not the problem. Rather,
I'd look into the video card/video
At 09:34 AM 11/20/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm still trying now and then to debug the font problem on my installation of
>Protel. Ever since I upgraded to a 21" monitor at 1600x1200, certain fonts
>are screwed up, most notably the Layers dialog box and the help system index.
I'm runnin
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel usage
Lloyd,
Your your comments and perspective are useful and broadening. I hope that
you forwarded your ideas and suggestions to
...snip...
>This was not the case on WIN98. It seems that when installed on
>WIN98 you need to
>set this yourself on NT it automatically sets it to compact on close of
>design.
...snip...
I installed P99SE on a WIN98 and a NT4.0 machine.
On both machines the checkbox "compact on close of design"
Hi All,
Can I use NetLabels in projects with complex hierarchy? I need to
NetLabels for bus. But if I set Net Identifier Scope how Sheet Symbol/
Port Connnection all net in bus are missed.
--
Best regards,
Yuri V. Potapoff
Technical Director
ElectronTrade, Ltd.
8 Ukrainsky boul., Moscow, 12105
At 02:16 PM 11/20/01 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote:
>At 09:46 PM 19/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>(This is Design/NetlistManager/Menu/
>>I forget the exact name, but it is *not* the command that generates a net
>>list from connected copper. It is the other one, that just dumps what is
>>loaded into
Andy,
It's funny this question is coming up now on the forum. I was out for a few.
I had asked Protel
a few times why my database was so huge, never got a good answer till very
recent, and I might
add ONLY because I installed on a faster newer machine running NT SP6a.
I noticed that on installatio
I'm still trying now and then to debug the font problem on my installation
of
Protel. Ever since I upgraded to a 21" monitor at 1600x1200, certain fonts
are screwed up, most notably the Layers dialog box and the help system
index.
I have been all over the settings within Protel, as well as all t
> you mean about having to repeat the setup. My one complaint is that it
> insists on rebuilding all the previews whenever the slightest change is
> made.
You can turn that off by going into tools preference and turning off
Perform automatic rebuild for changes.
Rob
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Happy Holidays!
Intro:
I am running Protel 99SE service pack 6, with Windows 2000. I have
problems with Protel 99SE crashing (I export files often, after a crash
I restart my computer and almost always do not have to start with the
exported file) and AutoCAD 2000 crashing (restarting my computer
Andy,
"Left click" the big arrow from the menu bar and select "Design Utilities".
In the "Compact & Repair" window there is a checkbox "Perform compact after
closing design".
Checking / unchecking this box should do the job.
Regards,
Ben Uijtenhaak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gatsometer BV
P.O. Box 495
Hi
Click to the arrow on the left of main toolbar and select Design utilities
for acces to compact option.
Regards
Eric
> -Message d'origine-
> De: Andrew Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: mardi 20 novembre 2001 14:22
> À: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> Objet: [PEDA] Compacting Design Questi
We are running 99SE + SP6 on two PCs. On one PC, Protel compacts the design
database upon exiting. This does not happen on the other. Where do I
select the compact design function?
Thanks,
Andy Moran
Automated Engineering Corp.
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Thanks to all who replied to this thread!
Tim.
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On 04:16 PM 19/11/2001 -0400, Tim Fifield said:
>I've created an odd fo
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