http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060223/tc_nm/telecoms_wireless_ceos_dc
The executives also plan to suggest the FCC ease restrictions on
wireless licenses so companies have more flexibility to use the airwaves
for new services. They also will recommend making more unlicensed
spectrum available that
Yeah. I bought a $45 pair of Ideal brand crimpers, and it was definitely
money well spent. I am familiar with those ratcheting ones, too. They
are nice.
The $15 that come free with a box of cable sometimes are what we WERE
using, but we were having to redo ends more often than not. It was rare
I agree, this is the set that I have been using for 8 years now. Has
interchangable dies for rj-11 and rj-45. Probably made 1000+ ends with
no bad crimps and still a nice working tool, no slop. Altho, they cost
$125, I would use none other.
http://www.tecratools.com/pages/datacom/graphics/3915
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/confpage/060307.htm
For anyone that's interested. It would be great to see some wireless
folks at this.
laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
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If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a
given state does not need to file.
The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based
firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess
of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or wir
hmm, seems like I was reding the old form from Year 2,000.
Mario Pommier wrote:
If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a
given state does not need to file.
The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is
facilities-based
firms that provide at least 25
Hiya Matt,
I used to sell Solectek gear. Years
ago. It was a good company with good gear as I recall. If you are up
and running and have a good reputation in your market it never hurts to try new
toys.
These days most of the gear I'm buying for links
like that comes from Airaya. It's
Whats the deal n the airaya stuff? Are they
making the 5.3 stuff? What are the specs?
Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Systems
www.wbisp.com
781-846-6798 ext 6201
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That was pretty much my thought. I can do a
good job on the crimps (as long as I don't have a broken crimper, sigh).
The problem is doing the crimps when it's 10* with
a 20mph breeze blowing. That's when it gets really hard to keep those
wires in the right order while you try to push t
Righto. It's now 1 subscriber not
250.
Marlon(509)
982-2181
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910
(Vonage)
Consulting services42846865
(icq)
And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice
I don't remember if it was this list or isp-wireless that talked about this
a bit more specifically.
In a nutshell, the fine for not filling it out is up to $10,000 as I read
it.
Again, however, the biggest reason for us to fill this out is political.
They need to know that when someone from
Its always good to hear a chime in from one of the original early guys in
the game, now and then.
Lots of stuff happening here in WISP land.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Hi All,
I was just going through some old stuff on my puter and bumped into this
post from Tom.
Buried in there is a rehash of the idea of a real FCC recognized
professional installer.
Is WISPA in a position to push for this? Can we come up with a
certification program? Can we take on th
Anyone cover Orangeburg, S.C.?
Hit me offlist.
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Have
you looked at Airaya's web site?
It's
pretty informative: http://www.airaya.com/products/p2m.asp
-Charles
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OK, this gets a bit sticky for me I work
on the side as a sales geek for electro-comm and therefore sell this gear.
Apply appropriate grain of salt.
*I* use this gear in my network because it's priced
well and it works. They get away with such low pricing because it's using
the Athe
Yeah. Cheap tools always come to roost sooner or later. Usually sooner and
at a very bad time! Grin
Now if I could just find a good cable tester at $5. heheheheh
Marlon
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First off, don't. Mesh is all the rage
today. Just like hotspots were a couple of years ago. Mesh and muni
are often rolled out in the same sentence. Show me ONE that's working
correctly past the 6 to 12 month stage..
Having said that, you can still give them the same
functionality
I was just wondering how a small WISP goes about enforcing a contract? If
someone cancels early what actions do I have available to enforce their
contract? Any Ideas or suggestions?
Jory Privett
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That $10,000 fine is a standard FCC violation fine and can apply to
almost any situation where a violation has occurred. Now I am NOT
condoning violating FCC rules but these are the facts and we have to
face it. When was the last time someone was fined for being over EIRP
limits, NEVER!
Kurt F
I guess you'll have to learn more about Mesh because if you did you
would not say that a dedicated backhaul and microcell approach gives
the same functionality. Sure a dedicated backhaul and microcell are
fine because that is what people have been building since forever.
Mesh handles routing issu
Is this a residential customer ? Is it worth the bad advertising on your part to pursue it ? What were their reasons for cancelling ? We don't even have a contract in place any longer. We have a TOS and an acceptable use policy in place but no need to waste our time with the extra paperwork for
Jory,
To me, it depends on a few things...
1. Do you have a written contract that has a term commitment and
the cancellation fees clearly stated?
2. If you do, is it amount worth pursuing for collections based
on the risk, money and time you will spend?
3. If you do pursue
The primary challenge from my experience is LOS issues on the link side.
You can solve this by deploying more nodes or more injection points
according to design and budget. The new 900 Mhz cards look interesting
to link those few out of the way nodes.
chris
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We usually compile them and send em to an attorney that sends out 1
nastygram form letter. We get some $$ back that way. I have always
functioned under the assumption that folks who don't pay their bills
etc. aren't too likely to bring it up in public.
Since we are all bound to have some amount of
Lonnie,
when will your radios support mesh, as described in your previous
post?
M
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
I guess you'll have to learn more about Mesh because if you did you
would not say that a dedicated backhaul and microcell approach gives
the same functionality. Sure a dedicated b
Judge Judy
Kurt Fankhauser
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Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:07 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ter
I am not disputing that at all. What I was saying that mesh is a
routing mechanism and as such is used on the backhaul and microcell to
tie them together. As such it is far superior to a backhaul and
microcell approach without mesh routing. That is all I was trying to
say.
Lonnie
On 2/23/06, c
We released the code yesterday as part of our v3 for the WAR boards.
The beta part is mostly for the Atheros driver which continues to get
tweaks and add-ons.
We have been testing and playing with mesh since Fall 2005. We felt
it was ready for prime time.
Lonnie
On 2/23/06, Mario Pommier <[EMA
No the problem with Mesh is it adds many hops to the path, therefore adding
significant latency, and inability to control QOS, or identify where the QOS
lies. Self interference is impossible to avoid without killing every other
in town at the same time.
routing...
Well that brings nother is
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
First off, don't. Mesh is all the rage today. Just like hotspots
were a couple of years ago. Mesh and muni are often rolled out in the
same sentence. Show me ONE that's working correctly past the 6 to 12
month stage..
Come down and visit some
Tom DeReggi wrote:
No the problem with Mesh is it adds many hops to the path, therefore
adding significant latency, and inability to control QOS, or identify
where the QOS lies. Self interference is impossible to avoid without
killing every other in town at the same time.
Mesh doesn't have t
good deal!
do you have info on the tech specs of the system in the website?
thanks.
Mario
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
We released the code yesterday as part of our v3 for the WAR boards.
The beta part is mostly for the Atheros driver which continues to get
tweaks and add-ons.
We have been te
Tom DeReggi wrote:
No the problem with Mesh is it adds many hops to the path, therefore
adding significant latency, and inability to control QOS, or identify
where the QOS lies. Self interference is impossible to avoid without
killing every other in town at the same time.
QoS is easy with me
Hey Kurt - Fix your date and time - Several people have mentioned this already. Be a considerate list participant.
JohnnyO
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 13:38 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Judge Judy
Kurt Fankhauser
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We have a contract, and it serves a rather limited
role. Since we have only one option that requires a time commitment
and that one is short, our contract only serves the following
purposes: Agreement on the customer's part not to abuse the network
(and leaves the definition of abuse to
We continually find ourselves having to call around the country trying
to find inventory. We'd prefer just to have a single distributor fulfill
all our orders, but we expect the equipment to be stocked. It seems to
me distributors don't provide any value if all they do is process orders
and dro
We are testing a new WR cell. The target rssi generated by the design
guide and real field tests show 10-12 db performance delta. Anyone care
to weigh in on this? Is this reality- the difference between vendor
spec and real world tests or should we look deeper for a problem? We've
already wor
Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of "what's
the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW, I've
noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales &
marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt wireles
Hey folks,
I up in Killington VT doing some skiying… Who the wisp
servicing the area with Trango stuff?
Gino A. Villarini,
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We have observed the following:
It is easier to explain wireless after the fact then to sell wireless
itself. In other words, we sell a service that provides X amount of
internet access and Y phone lines that we just happen to deliver
wirelessly. Once a customer is "sold" on the value of the s
Quote: "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
yes, it is. More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's needs or
wants.
Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
I desperately need a
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East
Coast Snow =(
Go
Rockies -- east coast is WAY too icy
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Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable for me
to do. Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to
No, but I posted a link to the manuals on the Support Forums. We use
OLSR and you can get the manuals, etc yourself. http://www.olsr.org/
What specs do you need? This auto routes and is not limited to 2
layer like OSPF.
Lonnie
On 2/23/06, Mario Pommier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> good deal!
If that's the case, then VOIP has no future. If there's no profit to be
made in it, then what's everyone jumping on it for?
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sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIR
"they want their cake and eat it too".. exactly. Either run your own
Asterisk server with PSTN gateway or figure out how to sell on margins and
stop whining.
Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of servi
A Canadian University recently banned Wi-Fi due to unproven health risks.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/22/canada_uni_wifi_ban/
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So I would guess that all the companies that have in house labs for beta
testing are all goners. They are always trying to find a way to keep the
wireless broadband business down. I would like to see a proven case study on
the size of the brain tumor does it get larger with 2.4 or 5.8.
-Orig
...or, with cordless phones, wireless RF remote controls, lightening
storms, nearby radio towers for fire, police, sheriff, Royal Mounties,
etc.
. . . j o n a t h a n
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VoIP is the future and while it is currently profitable, I don't think
it will be long-term. I expect long-term telephone service as we know it
will be free. In the mean time, VoIP sells data better than almost
anything else.
-Matt
Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
If that's the case, then VOIP has no
Prudent Avoidance (playing it safe) ???
Owww, owww stop hitting me :)
Take care Victoria (long-time, no see - I was glad to hear that you're
doing OK).
Best wishes,
jack
Victoria wrote:
A Canadian University recently banned Wi-Fi due to unproven health risks.
http://www.t
I have been wondering about that thing growing on the side of my head, or it
is just the bumps that I have gotten since I have been into wireless?
Nice to see you too Jack.
Climb any mountains lately? :-)
Victoria
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I'll take a tumor and wireless over no tumor and no wireless.
Victoria wrote:
I have been wondering about that thing growing on the side of my head, or it
is just the bumps that I have gotten since I have been into wireless?
Nice to see you too Jack.
Climb any mountains lately? :-)
Victor
I don't understand your point about "selling on margins".
I was merely asking for a "wholesale" product that was priced less than
RETAIL.
Nothing more, nothing less.
I have yet to figure out how it is all the "wholesale" products are
currently anywhere between 10 and 100% more than the current r
Not going to allow it until "proven safe".
Can we assume that all illegitemate drug use has been stopped?
Underage alcohol consumption doesn't exist?
Binge drinking has been halted?
No "unsafe" sex occurs on campus or by students?
No students speed, or drive unsafely?
What a concept... Nothi
FYI Kurt, your computer appears to be set at the wrong time and date.
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Judge Judy
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What makes you think there's any margin selling retail? Figure out what
you're doing or accept what's handed to you.
Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
I don't understand your point about "selling on margins".
I was merely asking for a "wholesale" product that was priced less than
RETAIL.
Nothing more,
The thing growing on the side of V''s head is caused by overuse of the
cellular phone. Sue the cellular phone company.
Everyone else in the civilized world should bring a class action suit
against all television and radio transmitting staions, police departments,
airports, airlines, phone compa
Thanks Tom - and all others. Good to hear from all the old names/faces.
I've learned more about copper cable crimpers here in the last two
days than I have
from any other wireLESS list I've been on in the last two years!
:-)
At 11:22 AM 2/23/2006, you wrote:
Its always good to hear a
Yea...and another thing that causes death...Breathing!
If you do it long enough, eventually you will die.
I guess I should ban breathing too!
:-)
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:11 PM
To: W
Ooops!!! How could I forget this one...
Must make all amateur radio operations illegal and lock them all up and
confiscate all their equipment!!!
Either that or start suing all the ham radio operators for the suspected
damage they've done to us all, too
At 10:11 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote:
You can breathe all you want to, as long as you don't get all
that second hand carbon dioxide on me...
And I just saw some of that CO2 pass by me a minute ago!!
I'm gonna trap some of it in a bottle and if it matches the CO2
that came out of you, you're buzzard meat buddy
Just like the
Roger,
That wasn't CO2 that passes by you...It was methane! :-)
Oops...
- Cliff
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:27 PM
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You could have blamed it on the dog, and nobody would have known
the difference, Cliff...
At 10:29 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote:
Roger,
That wasn't CO2 that passes by you...It was methane! :-)
Oops...
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Roger Boggs wrote:
Ooops!!! How could I forget this one...
Must make all amateur radio operations illegal and lock them all up and
confiscate all their equipment!!!
Either that or start suing all the ham radio operators for the suspected
damage they've done to us all, too
Don't get me
Generally speaking, we have found the cost/time to sell a customer is
the same no matter how large the service delivered is. In other words,
it takes just as long to sell a "DS3" as it does a "T1" even though the
"DS3" is significantly more profitable.
Hi Matt,
I would disagree with you on t
I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the customer and
do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely bulk
buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
account that costs me 25 bucks a month. They can buy Packet8 for less tha
Maybe you stumbled upon the fact that no one offers what you want
because it isn't cost effective to do so. As much as we try to wholesale
our VoIP offers to other WISPs, they want their cake and eat it too.
Being an ISP or for that matter a VoIP provider requires either relying
on others' inf
Jory Privett wrote:
I was just wondering how a small WISP goes about enforcing a contract? If
someone cancels early what actions do I have available to enforce their
contract? Any Ideas or suggestions?
Jory Privett
WCCS
Collections usually works, but negotiating with the end user should be
At 10:41 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote:
Roger Boggs wrote:
Ooops!!! How could I forget this one...
Must make all amateur radio operations illegal and lock them all up and
confiscate all their equipment!!!
Either that or start suing all the ham radio operators for the suspected
damage they've don
How does a WISP go about adding DSL resale to its list of services.
I'd like to resell some DSL access to places we can't provide wireless.
Need to deal with Sprint Local in Sussex / Warren Counties, VCerizon in
Morris County, and Warwick Valley Telephone in upper Sussex County, NJ
and Orange
The margin in consumer VOIP is disappearing. The costs of the
infrastructure including DIDs and 911 implementation have slammed the
industry. Read Vonage's IPO to better understand the 911 liability and
cost.
In a couple of cases I have consulted on, the local CO was not
accessible by any CLE
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:46 PM
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>
> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the
Hey Roger,
No, it's my blue tooth oh...
that's what you meant ;-)
Victoria Proffer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subje
I'm just looking to offer customers an alternative to the phone line.
That is, I'd like to give them an excuse to drop the Qwest copper line, keep
phone service, and give me the money instead.
And for those who live outside any other broadband, I can make a package
deal that puts them right in th
contact the dsl loop provider. in some states, like CO, you need an ATM
connection to the Qwest cloud, with specific ATM features - and then its
pretty simple. you pay per loop, Qwest sends the ATM cells over to you
on a specific virtual path (vpi,vci) -- you provide the IP services to
the cust
I wonder what we should start calling the new telcos. There are 3
international companies that control nearly all of telcom today.
Verizon/MCI, SBC that bought Cingular/ATT, and Sprint/Nextel. They
aren't Bell Operating Companies. They are really big, mostly unchecked
mega-telcos. RBMTs.. :-)
MAtt,
The Super cell gives the ISP better central control and simplicity.
I don't believe an argument has been made to back up your above statement.
Trie I did not offer any backup data. But use your immagination. Its all in
one place, easy to check, easy to document, easy to configure, eas
you jsut gotta pick your software well.
OK. What do you pick, and why?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:49 PM
Subject
. In addition, a Network Operator's valuation is a direct
multiple of its ARPU.
Wrong. Thats old school. Evaluation is a direct multiple of the ARPU that
the buyer can acheive because they bought your netowrk. Consider their new
ability to gain revenue at a quicker rate, based on the unique
Here is the part that really sucks
I have an asterisk box setup, and five customers beta testing voip on my
network. It works fine. Those five customers have used a grand total
of 1003 minutes so far this month. My cost for termination minutes is
.02 per minute, with a $5/month charge p
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