Re: [Emc-users] Touch screens
Steve - Thanks for your patience with me, I saw a thread with minimal replies and minimal progress so thought I'd jump in. I was actually experiencing some insomnia and it appears I am again tonight...Sorry I didn't look at the change logs and bug reports. As for trying the newer packages for Jaunty or Karmic, you're probably Ok to reassign the dependencies and use those packages. As always I'd recommend a back up of critical information, but undoing the change if it doesn't work should be rather straight forward. Try and contact the authors/developers of the driver through those pages and see what they have to say. My thought is even with the evolvement of the Kernel, and the realtime kernel we use for EMC, that the HID sub-system hasn't been overhauled so much as to break the driver migration, But, as with anything, exercise caution. Good luck. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com From: Steve Blackmore [mailto:st...@pilotltd.net] Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screens On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:59:55 -0400, you wrote: Which version of the mutouch driver are you using? According to the Ubuntu Hardy (didn't see a mention of which version of Ubuntu you are running either so I am making an assumption) link I googled (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/xserver-xorg-input-mutouch) the current version is 1.1.0-3 with dependencies on libc6 = ver 2.6.1-1 and xserver-xorg-core = ver 2:1.4. What versions are those? Hi Greg - that's the old buggy version, last updated 2007. There have been several versions since then, but they didn't update Hardy, only Jaunty and Karmic. The latest fixed one is 1:1.2.1-1 Fix log shows xserver-xorg-input-mutouch (1:1.2.0-3) unstable; urgency=medium * Cherry-pick one more fix from upstream: Fix calculation of coordinates with inverted axes. Thanks to Fernando Vicente for the report and the patch. -- Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:31:55 +0100 Maybe anything after 1:1.2.0-3 is OK? But will those newer versions work with Hardy? Looking back and seeing that you originally installed the evtouch driver I googled that and found the Ubuntu package page on that http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/xserver-xorg-input-evtouch - you may find more details there. There are several dependencies there as well. That's got inverted axis also - check out the bug reports on that page. Steve Blackmore -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Touch screens
Which version of the mutouch driver are you using? According to the Ubuntu Hardy (didn't see a mention of which version of Ubuntu you are running either so I am making an assumption) link I googled (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/xserver-xorg-input-mutouch) the current version is 1.1.0-3 with dependencies on libc6 = ver 2.6.1-1 and xserver-xorg-core = ver 2:1.4. What versions are those? Looking back and seeing that you originally installed the evtouch driver I googled that and found the Ubuntu package page on that http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/xserver-xorg-input-evtouch - you may find more details there. There are several dependencies there as well. HTH! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Steve Blackmore [mailto:st...@pilotltd.net] Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:47 PM To: st...@pilotltd.net; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screens On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:44:31 +0100, you wrote: On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:22:41 -0700, you wrote: Perhaps you should log out and back in for some changes to take effect. I do not own touchscreen so the following is just a hint on how I would go about troubleshooting. I would check System - Preferences - Mouse or run dpkg --configure xserver-xorg-input-evtouch You may want to read from a link given by apt-cache show xserver-xorg-input-evtouch which returned http://stz-softwaretechnik.com/~ke/touchscreen/evtouch.html That page describes changes you should see in /etc/X11/xorg.conf after installation. That's where changes need to be made for X-Windows configuration. Done all that prior to asking here :( The changes are there, the applet isn't. I was wondering if it was some change made by EMC install that was preventing it appearing. Further to that, I used a different driver, used the mutouch which is bundled with Ubuntu and managed to find and use a third party calibration program. Bad news, Y axis is reversed, seems a very common problem and there is a fix with a later driver, but it seems that the old buggy driver is bundled with EMC? The later driver has SwapX and SwapY true/false parameters in the xorg.conf file - they have no effect on the emc release? Steve Blackmore -- -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.o rg ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion
As a side note I believe the wiki reference on the X3 is the one I posted. Much more info at ww.distinctperspectives.com I realize it's not the same machine but the principles in making a backlash free mechanical setup (thus reducing headaches later) are well worth reading and studying. Plans are freely available. Also checkout cnczone.com in the benchtop mills section, particalulary all postings by HOSS or HOSS2006 (iirc) - he has gone overboard modding his X2 to the point of one being dubbed The Freak. Also you can find a multitude of hookups there as well. Welcome to the list and good luck. Hope to see your EMC benchtop here in the future! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: John Thornton [mailto:bjt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:43 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller EEMC Subject: Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion On 12 Jun 2009 at 9:04, Wayne Patterson wrote: Hey Guys, I am at a point that I need to convert my Sieg X2 mill to CNC control. I have found two kits/plans online and wanted to know if anyone on the list has used them? They are the Steele Company's conversion kit/plan and the FigNoggle Designs kits/plans. For what it is worth I plan on building the parts so I will be using the plans and not the kits. In most cases if you chat a bit with other users that have that type of mini mill you might not need any plans to do the conversion. Try asking on the EMC IRC you might run across someone that has a mill similar to yours. Doing a quick search on the EMC Wiki site I found this link http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?An_X3_Benchtop_Mill_Conversion Right now my biggest concern is the electronics. While I am confident in building parts for the machine, the electronics is some what daunting. I have bought three Linistepper driver boards and assembled them with satisfactory results. But I 'm lost when it comes to the controllers. You can either connect it directly to the parallel port or to a breakout board like the CNC4PC C10 for $25. You will have to find 5-wire or 6-wire (unipolar) motors (not the most popular) for the Linistepper boards. It's a little late for you but in most cases when you spend $40 for a hobby driver board you end up with $250 worth of headaches. When for $70 you could have purchased a good quality commercial driver like the Gecko G251. From what I have read I am leaning to the Mesa 7I43 to connect the driver boards to the PC. I also want to add DRO using ShumaTechs DRO-350. And was wondering if that could be integrated into EMC some how. If anyone has used any of these parts and/or plans and could give me some advice it would be greatly appreciated. My funds are limited and I don't want to waste it on things that will not work or conflict with EMC. Thanks in advance for any help! lennywayne The DRO-350 is a quality product. I have built two and installed one on my manual mill. The second one is for my manual lathe but I've not been motivated to figure out how to mount scales on the lathe. It's only use for you would be when your in manual mode. It could not be connected to EMC AFAIK. John -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Metric?
Andy - That is a wonderful table!!! Not to diminish it _any_ way shape of form but if one of our more savvy web types could make that page into frames so the column headings stay as you scroll down that would be an immensely useful shop/drafting board (antiquated term I know - but my company for some inane reason still uses them) tool. Bravo! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Andy Pugh [mailto:a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:27 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Metric? 2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net: The Germans have have a set of metric standards the English have ISO standards and the Spanish have still another. I _think_ that DIN (German) BS( British) JIS (Japanes) and the rest have all converged on ISO (Inrternational) but I might be wrong. Imperial bolts are designed to break before the threads pull out of the parent metal. The best thread pitch is picked for the bolt diameter to achive this partially by having a smaller or larger root diameter. Ah, but you eschewed the One True Thread angle (Whitworth 55 degrees), rounding up to 60 degrees, which has a fractionally less optimum ratio of self-locking to tension. The least useful standard I have come across is UNF, which seems designed to seize irretrievably at the first hint of corrosion. In contrast I have dismantled bits of old commercial vehicles left in fields for 70 years where the hexes on the (Whitworth) nuts were half their original size, and they just unscrewed like normal (once we found a random socket that nearly fitted) This might be a good time to point you at my Thread identification table which lists all the threads from all the standards I could find at the time in the same table, in size order. In retrospect I omitted the metric sizes below 3mm, and similarly many of the smaller American sizes. http://www.bodgesoc.org/thread_dia_pitch.html (You can click the headers to link to lists sorted differently) -- atp -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion
Please - MISTER Michalski is my dad :-) Your welcome. There was so much information gathered from open source I just had to publish my work freely. Hope so of it can be of use. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Wayne Patterson [mailto:way...@wavelinx.net] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:25 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion I can't thank all you guys enough! BTW, I like your site Mr. Michalski. Again thanks for all the info. lennywayne Greg Michalski wrote: As a side note I believe the wiki reference on the X3 is the one I posted. Much more info at ww.distinctperspectives.com I realize it's not the same machine but the principles in making a backlash free mechanical setup (thus reducing headaches later) are well worth reading and studying. Plans are freely available. Also checkout cnczone.com in the benchtop mills section, particalulary all postings by HOSS or HOSS2006 (iirc) - he has gone overboard modding his X2 to the point of one being dubbed The Freak. Also you can find a multitude of hookups there as well. Welcome to the list and good luck. Hope to see your EMC benchtop here in the future! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: John Thornton [mailto:bjt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:43 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller EEMC Subject: Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion On 12 Jun 2009 at 9:04, Wayne Patterson wrote: Hey Guys, I am at a point that I need to convert my Sieg X2 mill to CNC control. I have found two kits/plans online and wanted to know if anyone on the list has used them? They are the Steele Company's conversion kit/plan and the FigNoggle Designs kits/plans. For what it is worth I plan on building the parts so I will be using the plans and not the kits. In most cases if you chat a bit with other users that have that type of mini mill you might not need any plans to do the conversion. Try asking on the EMC IRC you might run across someone that has a mill similar to yours. Doing a quick search on the EMC Wiki site I found this link http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?An_X3_Benchtop_Mill_Conversion Right now my biggest concern is the electronics. While I am confident in building parts for the machine, the electronics is some what daunting. I have bought three Linistepper driver boards and assembled them with satisfactory results. But I 'm lost when it comes to the controllers. You can either connect it directly to the parallel port or to a breakout board like the CNC4PC C10 for $25. You will have to find 5-wire or 6-wire (unipolar) motors (not the most popular) for the Linistepper boards. It's a little late for you but in most cases when you spend $40 for a hobby driver board you end up with $250 worth of headaches. When for $70 you could have purchased a good quality commercial driver like the Gecko G251. From what I have read I am leaning to the Mesa 7I43 to connect the driver boards to the PC. I also want to add DRO using ShumaTechs DRO-350. And was wondering if that could be integrated into EMC some how. If anyone has used any of these parts and/or plans and could give me some advice it would be greatly appreciated. My funds are limited and I don't want to waste it on things that will not work or conflict with EMC. Thanks in advance for any help! lennywayne The DRO-350 is a quality product. I have built two and installed one on my manual mill. The second one is for my manual lathe but I've not been motivated to figure out how to mount scales on the lathe. It's only use for you would be when your in manual mode. It could not be connected to EMC AFAIK. John -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] WITS (Wichita Industrial Trade Show)
From: spad...@sover.net [mailto:spad...@sover.net] Subject: Re: [Emc-users] WITS (Wichita Industrial Trade Show) Gentlemen, Look at this website - http://witshow.org/ Is there any interest in preparing a machine or three for this show? There would be a need for machine preparation. There would be a need for booth population. Provided there is enough interest I will provide the booth at the show and cover show expenses. I would need volunteers to assist in the machine prep and booth population. The booth is 10 feet X 10 feet so it would be easy to overfill. The MVJr would be a good candidate. It has a tool changer and could do rigid tapping and is a recognized brand. The Dahlih would be a good candidate. It would clean up and show well. I would try to have a B/P cnc to retrofit. This would show a stepper machine. I could see a Max 5 axis running demos. I could see a small gantry running demos. I could see a small plastic framed mill running demos. Other small machines (lathes and mills) would show well also. A robot handing out literature would be nice. We would have video of other machines running. This would be fun and I believe would generate an unbelievable amount of interest. We may even make the local TV news. :) Primetime here we come :) Stuart If there's enough interest in having EMC2 there, I'll volunteer to man the booth. I don't have any machines small enough to carry and display, but I can certainly be careful with someone else's if they'll loan it for the cause. - Steve I have the photo boards from the NAMES show if they are desired. My mill isn't exactly show ready/capable. Can't make a journey or I'd have been at fest. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp as they present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://p.sf.net/sfu/creativitycat-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fest Pics (was Thanks, Stuart)
Jeff Epler wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 07:22:34PM -0700, John Lichter wrote: I just wan to send out a big THANKS to Stuart for hosting the EMC fest at him place and the same to all the EMC guys that were there. Terry and I made it back Monday evening in good shape and he is ready to try out what he learned. Thanks again, John I agree, a huge thank you goes out to Stuart for hosting the 2009 fest. It was great fun and also productive to meet with these people I've worked with online for months or even years. Jeff Did anyone take any pics at fest? (perhaps I missed a posting...) Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp as they present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://p.sf.net/sfu/creativitycat-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] [Fwd: Heiz CNC - emc configuration] 5th axis
-Original Message- From: Robert von Knobloch [mailto:b...@engelking.de] Subject: [Emc-users] [Fwd: Heiz CNC - emc configuration] 5th axis Peter wrote: Hello Robert, Have you ever thought about making the 5th axis to your Heiz machine? The Heiz controller is capable for 4 axis, and with another LPT port and controller and step motor would it be possible to drive the 5th axis? What do you think? Best Regards, Peter I can see no reason why not, except maybe the difficulty of generating gcode from cad to drive it. EMC can handle up to 6 axes. I do not have a reason for a 5th. axis on my machine. What do you want to use it for ? Best regards, Robert I think you meant to say EMC could handle 9 axes. (XYZABCUVW) :-) Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Gear Tooth Profile
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:24 -400, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:30 -0400, Douglas Pollard wrote: I don't know where to tell you to look but the metric gear info is out there somewhere for little or no money. I thought you where wrong here because I was getting nearly goose eggs, but I tried Googling metric gear rack profile and got this: http://www.sdp-si.com/d785/html1/D785T000.html On the sdp-si web site you can download 2d and 3d models of all the gears and pulleys they sell. Does anyone know if the models are accurate enough to generate gcode from? I don't know about all the gear types, but I know the timing belt pulleys are accurate enough to machine from. HTH Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Photo Boards from NAMES
If anyone is interested in seeing the photo boards that were put together and displayed at NAMES I've made a page on my website with them, Alex is going to be posting something on the linuxcnc.org site, but these are the PDF files - I have each person's board as a web sized PDF and then the full resolution 24x36 PDF of all the boards if anyone wants to get a copy of their board printed or something. Thank you to everyone who provided pictures - most people I spoke to were very fond of them, and the few EMC-listers that were there complimented them - I couldn't have made them without your assistance in providing pics and info. http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/PhotoBoards/index.html Enjoy! And if there are any events in the future that the boards would be useful for feel free to contact me - I have the boards still in very reasonable shape (just some tape on edges and back, nothing critical) that could be shipped out for a show or presentation. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] NAMES Show - Saturday
Hey everyone! Spent a bit of time in the EMC2 booth at the NAMES show today. Dale is a wonderful guy. Very outgoing. Very knowledgeable. Very polite. Very giving. All around a good person to have in the booth. I on the other hand am a shy person so it took me a while to get the courage to strike up conversation with everyone who stepped up the edge of the EMC2 area. But I tried to help as best I could. Once my medical issues got to be too much to take without becoming a prick and alienating possible future EMC2 users I had to leave Dale to fend for himself. Hind sight I should have given him a chance to run and use the bathroom if needed. Then I walked and saw a bit of the displays, I haven't really be into the steam engines but they are pretty cool, especially the couple models of scale machine shops of yesteryear. Those were pretty cool. I've got some pics here from the show showing the EMC2 booth with Dale working in it. Should've gotten a good overall shot of the Convention, but I didn't. An Overall Shot of http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3088.JPG the EMC2 Booth Tighter Shot of http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3091.jpg the EMC2 Booth With Someone Drawn in by the Photos Dale Giving a http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3092.jpg Thorough Tutorial on EMC2 Better Shot of the http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3093.jpg Booth and Photo Displays Dale Talking About http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3094.jpg EMC2 with his EMCO F1 as a Teaching Tool Dale's EMCO F1 http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3096.jpg Mill Running Some http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3099.jpg Videos of Jan van Gillsen's HA5 5 Axis Machine Another Video Shot http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3100.jpg with a Tuner's Cube I Made with EMC and an Plate Engraved with the Detroit Redwings Logo done by EMC More of Dale http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3102.jpg Explaining - You Can See Dale Was Cutting Some Wax From a Handcoded Limit Switch Enclosure All in all I had fun, only spent a total of $19 on a scrapped R8 shank 2 facemill that needs a little cleaning up before using and a pack of syringes for precision oiling (though they came with fairly fine gauge hypodermic needles on them.) Some decent deals to be had, some prices higher than online, some slightly lower from the couple of online vendors (like Little Machine Shop). I had fun and will be back tomorrow afternoon to help Dale dismantle the booth and get the pictures back. If someone would like to have the photo boards for the EMC Workshop out at Stuart's in Kansas let me know and we can work it out. Alex - contact me off list to coordinate what you want to do about posting the photo boards on www.linuxcnc.org http://www.linuxcnc.org/ . Be patient while these pictures load - they are good sized jpegs (be glad I didn't use the raw files that the camera produces ;-) ) and they aren't formatted for monitor sizes, maybe tomorrow. I need to go to bed. Good night everyone! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] FW: NAMES Show - Saturday - Fixed Links
Resending with the links in the original message below fixed - forgot that my host is a linux server and cares about case sensitivity. My bad. That's what I get for posting at 1am. A short video of the http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/MOV001.MOD example milling in wax - Give this one about 15 more minutes to finish uploading - I might have to take in down in a few days to keep my bandwidth usage within what I paid for so I don't get socked extra by my provider :--} Greg www.distinctperspectives.com _ From: Greg Michalski [mailto:emc2usrl...@distinctperspectives.com] Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:49 AM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: NAMES Show - Saturday Hey everyone! Spent a bit of time in the EMC2 booth at the NAMES show today. Dale is a wonderful guy. Very outgoing. Very knowledgeable. Very polite. Very giving. All around a good person to have in the booth. I on the other hand am a shy person so it took me a while to get the courage to strike up conversation with everyone who stepped up the edge of the EMC2 area. But I tried to help as best I could. Once my medical issues got to be too much to take without becoming a prick and alienating possible future EMC2 users I had to leave Dale to fend for himself. Hind sight I should have given him a chance to run and use the bathroom if needed. Then I walked and saw a bit of the displays, I haven't really be into the steam engines but they are pretty cool, especially the couple models of scale machine shops of yesteryear. Those were pretty cool. I've got some pics here from the show showing the EMC2 booth with Dale working in it. Should've gotten a good overall shot of the Convention, but I didn't. An Overall Shot of http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3088.JPG the EMC2 Booth Tighter Shot of the http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3091.JPG EMC2 Booth With Someone Drawn in by the Photos Dale Giving a http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3092.JPG Thorough Tutorial on EMC2 Better Shot of the http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3093.JPG Booth and Photo Displays Dale Talking About http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3094.JPG EMC2 with his EMCO F1 as a Teaching Tool Dale's EMCO F1 http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3096.JPG Mill Running Some Videos http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3099.JPG of Jan van Gillsen's HA5 5 Axis Machine Another Video Shot http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3100.JPG with a Tuner's Cube I Made with EMC and an Plate Engraved with the Detroit Redwings Logo done by EMC More of Dale http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3102.JPG Explaining - You Can See Dale Was Cutting Some Wax From a Handcoded Limit Switch Enclosure All in all I had fun, only spent a total of $19 on a scrapped R8 shank 2 facemill that needs a little cleaning up before using and a pack of syringes for precision oiling (though they came with fairly fine gauge hypodermic needles on them.) Some decent deals to be had, some prices higher than online, some slightly lower from the couple of online vendors (like Little Machine Shop). I had fun and will be back tomorrow afternoon to help Dale dismantle the booth and get the pictures back. If someone would like to have the photo boards for the EMC Workshop out at Stuart's in Kansas let me know and we can work it out. Alex - contact me off list to coordinate what you want to do about posting the photo boards on www.linuxcnc.org http://www.linuxcnc.org/ . Be patient while these pictures load - they are good sized jpegs (be glad I didn't use the raw files that the camera produces ;-) ) and they aren't formatted for monitor sizes, maybe tomorrow. I need to go to bed. Good night everyone! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES, this weekend (4/18-19, 2009)
And picture boards are _nearly_ complete - just need to make the back leg so they can freely stand on their own if needed. Check 'em out, after the show I'll coordinate with Alex Joni getting the boards posted onto the linuxcnc website, and you'll be able to see the whole layouts clearly and one by one. Here's the link: http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2/DSC_3082.JPG Dale Grover wrote: SNIP Some EMC supporters will have a booth (B-15, in the back) where we'll be handing out 200 Live-CDs with EMC2, demonstrating EMC2 on a mill, handing out flyers, and in general making folks aware of this excellent software. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC2AtNAMES Jon Elson and Steve Stallings will have booths nearby. If you're coming to the show, we're still looking for volunteers to be at the booth. An hour, even half an hour would be helpful and probably even fun. Send me an email. Please if you're there and aren't running your own booth, please consider taking a short shift at the booth (tell the wife and kids they can go to the mall that's a 15min drive away and spend some money :--) ). As of the last time Dale and I corresponded I was the only other worker and can really only manage one shift a day due to my fibromyalgia. But, it looks like we'll have a cellular internet connection there, so another way to help would be to monitor the EMC IRC channel during Saturday and Sunday (9-6 and 9-4)--if there are questions people have that folks in the booth can't answer, we may try to use IRC for quick answers. (If you'd like to volunteer your phone number as a backup, you can email me personally.) Many thanks to Marty (CDs), Greg (photos), Wayne (banner graphics), No need for thanks. It's my chance to give back to the community (though donating cash to the project would probably be better because all I'm doing is advertising more and making more work for them...). The real thanks go to (aside from the developers who've made this all possible) all the people who graciously donated their pictures and machine information for use in assembling very descriptive representations of their machines and the work the do on them. I know it's cheesy but I will probably bring a turner's cube (not internally separated though) as a display piece. Rab (Chips graphic), and Bob (who will be driving my machines down). --Dale Quick question Dale - Will there be a laptop or other machine available for videos to be played back on? A number of the people who donated also sent me video files. I can do a quick stitch of them which we could have running in a loop at the booth. I'd offer my laptop but I can't be without it for longer than my already volunteered shift (call me greedy/needy - but actually I'll have some real work I need to do this weekend). -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Users Locations
Some folks who were already registered may want to edit - there are some SPECIFIC addresses that could be used by mischievous or malicious folks. :--) I see some people are closer than I previously knew! And some are a LOT farther! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: John Thornton [mailto:jet1...@semo.net] Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:03 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller EEMC Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Users Locations On 11 Apr 2009 at 23:04, Alex Joni wrote: Hi there. Some quick update about this thread. I followed the suggestions people had ([1],[2]), and added some extensions to the website www.linuxcnc.org: SWEET! You should see the flags on the map now... John -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port
Will - Where about are you located at? With Chris' comment in mind - I've got a single port Netmos based PCI LPT that is going to be swapped shortly for a dual port Netmos (once I get over to my local shop _ I give them occasional business over Newegg since I don't want them to go under). I'd be willing to part with the single unit for a steal (depending on your location that is - if shipping is more than the board's cost...) Feel free to contact me off list. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Chris Radek [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:13 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 02:05:15AM +, William Baden wrote: Peter, Thanks for the idea, I have tried it and still come up with device or resource busy of one address and no output on the other three addresses. Will have to wait til after this weekend, taking a vacation with the wife! 00:0b.0 Serial controller: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port parallel adaptor (prog-if 02 [16550]) I don't think it's anything you're doing -- I don't like this Serial controller identification. Something is goofy. Maybe try another type of card? Chris -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] NAMES Photo display update [was EMC at NAMES 2009--banner update]
Chris - I certainly enjoy donating my time and some resources. But thank you for the recognition. Whether we admit it or not, and regardless of our motives, it's human nature to enjoy and desire the recognition. :) I'm almost done with the photo board layouts and am researching the printing costs and alternatives - I think I have my boss coddled enough to bribe some prints out of him limiting out-of-pocket costs to just the foam core backer board and a fresh can of 3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive. I will be posting these hi-res images/layouts for display and once the location is worked out will let everyone here know so if people can't make it to NAMES they'll be viewable. Since they are on the foam core they are easily stored and I can make them available to any other events (shows, workshops, etc.) in the future where people may find them useful. I have a few layouts left to design and want to submit the layouts to the couple of commercial entities for looking over so they are acceptable to them - wouldn't want to have them inaccurate/junky looking and reflect poorly on their enterprises (Jon Elson and Stuart are the couple that come to mind - I think there were one or two others who indicated commercial use and provided their business names). Just need a good pic of Stuart's Cinci :) Sadly enough the board for my own machine is the one I am most behind on - I have the #...@$ pics but have concentrated on getting everyone else's layouts done first! Thanks again! Hope to see at least a few mailing list names here in Toledo 4/18-19. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Chris Radek [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:53 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES 2009--banner update On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 05:12:45PM -0400, Dale Grover wrote: NAMES 2009 is a week and half away in Toledo, OH. (A few folks will be demonstrating and distributing EMC2 at a booth at this hobby machining expo, as discussed on this list earlier.) Here's an update: * Just received a 2' x 8' banner with artwork by Wayne Parks: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/banner_real.jpg I am so thrilled that you guys are doing this. The banner looks great. Thank you for all your work. Chris -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Turns off on starting program?
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 23:41 Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:34:56PM -0700, Michael Jones wrote: May need clarification. When I hit the play button to start executing the gcode.. the spindle turns off.. - Michael There are several answers to your question, but I think the best one is you're just missing the M code to turn the spindle on at the beginning of your program. You program something like S1000 M3 if you want 1000 RPM. Another answer is that this (turning off the spindle when switching modes) is a goofy default that is now fixed in the upcoming EMC2.3. Also - take note that the value of S is defaulted at 0 if you haven't programmed a value to it, so both parts of S M3 are required. (Learned that one the hard way..cussed up a storm for a while till it dawned on me that the spindle was turning at the speed I ordered it to - zero!). Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Turns off on starting program?
Can you do it in MDI mode? Switch to the MDI tab and type M3S1000. If that works then it's definitely something that needs to be looked at code wise (either your G or the software). Other thought - what does the spindle button on the auto page say? Does it say clockwise or counter clockwise? Does trying M4 in MDI or your program do anything? Any possibility that the switch got assigned as Spindle CCW? Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Michael Jones [mailto:ma...@michaelandholly.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:04 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Turns off on starting program? Still no joy. I've added the Speed command in the formats: S1000 M3 S1000M3 M3S1000 M3 S1000 as well as just: (which is what I used in Mach3) M3 I'm just about to the storm stage.. If it's the culprit.. is there a way to fix the goofy default?? Thanks. - Michael On Apr 7, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Greg Michalski wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 23:41 Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:34:56PM -0700, Michael Jones wrote: May need clarification. When I hit the play button to start executing the gcode.. the spindle turns off.. - Michael There are several answers to your question, but I think the best one is you're just missing the M code to turn the spindle on at the beginning of your program. You program something like S1000 M3 if you want 1000 RPM. Another answer is that this (turning off the spindle when switching modes) is a goofy default that is now fixed in the upcoming EMC2.3. Also - take note that the value of S is defaulted at 0 if you haven't programmed a value to it, so both parts of S M3 are required. (Learned that one the hard way..cussed up a storm for a while till it dawned on me that the spindle was turning at the speed I ordered it to - zero!). Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port
Hi Will - I'm a bit tired but I recall having to try all the addresses to get my Netmos card to work - which you've already done. Looking at my config file I have quotes around my addresses (I have 2 ports, one an input only so that might be why - I'd have to go back and read docs). Also the dmesg file says something about the module parport - did you try commenting out the loadrt prob_parport? Not sure if this is what it refers to. Sorry I can't be of more assistance at the moment. HTH Greg www.distinctperspectives.com From: William Baden [mailto:willba...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:41 PM Subject: [Emc-users] PCI Parallel port Hi all, Being still new to linux and EMC2 I have decided to use an old computer to learn more about it, using a small table top mill that I built using various parts. Wanting to branch out into a cheap I/O upgrade I decided to purchase a PCI parallel port card. But I have run into a problem getting this going. After installing the card, I used sudo lspci -v to find out the address, this is what was displayed: [SNIP] 00:0b.0 Serial controller: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port parallel adaptor (prog-if 02 [16550]) Subsystem: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port parallel adaptor Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9 I/O ports at c400 [size=8] I/O ports at c800 [size=8] I/O ports at cc00 [size=8] I/O ports at d000 [size=8] Memory at ed001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64] [/SNIP Assuming that this 00:0b.0 Serial controller: Titan Electronics Inc VScom 010L 1 port parallel adaptor was the pci card that I recently installed, I used the address c400 for the address in the .hal file line: loadrt hal_parport cfg=0xc400 The .hal file that I used was created by stepconf, and functions fine with the built in parallel port. But when I use 0xc400 as the address I get this error on startup of Axis: Debug file information: insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/emc2/hal_parport.ko': - 1 Device or resource busy FlatBed_Scanner_Mill_2nd_parallel_port_test.hal:27: exit value: 1 FlatBed_Scanner_Mill_2nd_parallel_port_test.hal:27: insmod failed, returned -1 See the output of 'dmesg' for more information. 4820 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND Stopping realtime threads Unloading hal components And also from dmesg: [ 336.998036] config string '0xc400' [ 336.999790] PARPORT: ERROR: request_region(c400) failed [ 336.999821] (make sure the kernel module 'parport' is unloaded) I have tried the other three address's listed. They allow Axis to start but cause no outputs on the parallel port card. Also, after searching the Gmane archives, I found info about Netmos cards but nno luck on VSCom. I am sure that I missed some steps in the setup fo this card but am unsure as to what they are. What are the steps that I missed to do and what can I do to track them down? Thanks, Will Baden -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Feel free to deposit movies on the FTP site also if movies are desired on site. There's space. As for the hanging/attaching issue, I am mounting all the photos on foam core and typically make an easel base when I do items like this. They can be placed on tables, at the base of tables, or I do have some PVC tube around the house that I could bring down and make an impromptu trellis of sorts. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Dave Engvall [mailto:dengv...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:41 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Kasunich wrote: BTW, I'm pretty sure I have the original (rather large) movie file for the variable-pitch, variable-diameter threading. Might be fun to be use that instead of a screensaver. (The YouTube version won't work at the show unless you have a fast internet connection, but the movie version just sits on your disk and runs anywhere.) If somebody is going to have movies running, I think there is one of Chris' 5-axis machine that ought to be shown, too. I thought that was QUITE cool! Jon Is anyone thinking about support for the backdrop pictures. IIRC the old Names venue was pretty much an open room. Unless you get a booth with a wall you are going to need racks, dividers, etc to hang those beautiful pictures on. Dave -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Update from the photo front -
Ok, I have now sorted out the multitude of issues which have plagued me from
the start of this endeavor. I knew I had purchased a large mailbox amount
on my hosting package - only problem was when I set it up _I_ didn't allot
it a sufficient size, so instead of a 100MB mailbox I had a 10mb mailbox and
75MB unallocated. To top it all off I had set my client to leave copies on
the server for 5 days so once it filled Saturday into Sunday, it was tits
up.
SO - If you have tried to contact me and gotten a bounce back message or no
response whatsoever, and are still willing to provide images, go ahead and
contact me again. Everyone who has gotten a hold of me has gotten the FTP
instructions and successfully sent images, except for the most recent to be
mailed the instructions (one person). But the box was full from sometime
late Sunday (east coast time).
I apologize for the unprofessionalism this started off with. I made too
many assumptions, thereby making an @$$ out of myself when all I wanted to
do was help and use a talent and equipment at my disposal to promote EMC.
This sort of error would have been catastrophic had it been a full fledged
business (which one day I intend it to be).
So my apologies to everyone, especially those who put up with trying to get
files to me and being patient while I tried working out my bugs. I have a
decent amount of pictures, but would like at least another 5 machines to
showcase. Some of the machines received so far are very inspiring for me in
seeing the creativity not only in the work they are producing but in the
machines themselves.
So to those who haven't donated pics, or have tried and got fed up with the
hassle, I hope you will give it another shot. To those who have - thank
you. Dale is really investing a lot of his time in making the EMC presence
strong and I commend him. I wish my body could stand/sit in one place long
enough to take more shifts on the floor, this is the best way for me to
contribute, so again, one more shot and please accept my humble apologies,
this snafu was all on me.
Yours humbly in open source and open honesty,
Greg Michalski
www.distinctperspectives.com
-Original Message-
From: Greg Michalski [mailto:emc2usrl...@distinctperspectives.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:21 PM
To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Everyone -
I have setup an FTP account on my website to accept large files (like I
requested) since it seems my mailbox won't accept larger messages (I
thought
I had paid for enhanced email but - evidently not).
I don't want to post the log-in information to the list since it is
publicly
archived, but contact me off list at Greg dot Michalski {at]
distinctperspectives (dot) com and I will forward the log in information
and
a basic walk through of how to use FTP if you haven't before (don't be
offended at the step by step nature if you are familiar, I wanted to have
a
copy/paste and have it applicable to all levels of experience).
So if you have tried to send me something and it bounced contact me at the
email for the instructions or check your mail because I've already
responded
to several people with the instructions for FTP.
Thanks for the early support, hopefully it continues and we have a
stunning
professional looking display that will make a statement that EMC is
robust,
and is here to stay. If (like me...) you haven't previously made any
contributions to opensource development, this is an easy way to get
started
by showing off what you've done with the software.
Thanks!
Greg
www.distinctperspectives.com
-Original Message-
From: Peter blodow [mailto:p.blo...@dreki.de]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:54 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Hello Greg,
I tried to send you some pictures right away, but your mail server was
apparently so busy that I was told my mail could be delayed for up to 2
days. Please check your mail account, maybe it's overfilled. Large
pictues
you wished make a lot of megabytes.
Peter Blodow
At 00:24 14.03.2009, you wrote:
To all EMC2 users and enthusiasts:
In coordinating with Dale Grover off list I offered to print up some
backdrops for the EMC presence at NAMES here in Toledo, since there's a
kind
member with a CD duplicator in our midst negating the need for my
previous
offer of assistance, and I still wanted to lend a hand. So now I reach
out
to the list for your help - I need PICTURES of your machines! Lots and
lots
of pictures!!! (well not too many.) I'm thinking machines of all
shapes
and
sizes, from custom builds to conversions, wood routers to behemoths,
anything that has EMC2 moving it around. The higher res the better,
I'm
aiming at 24x36 plots. So clean up your shops, take some good pics and
we
can showcase
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
From: John Kasunich [mailto:jmkasun...@fastmail.fm] Greg Michalski wrote: Update from the photo front - Ok, I have now sorted out the multitude of issues which have plagued me from the start of this endeavor. I knew I had purchased a large mailbox amount on my hosting package - only problem was when I set it up _I_ didn't allot it a sufficient size, so instead of a 100MB mailbox I had a 10mb mailbox and 75MB unallocated. To top it all off I had set my client to leave copies on the server for 5 days so once it filled Saturday into Sunday, it was tits up. SO - If you have tried to contact me and gotten a bounce back message or no response whatsoever, and are still willing to provide images, go ahead and contact me again. Everyone who has gotten a hold of me has gotten the FTP instructions and successfully sent images, except for the most recent to be mailed the instructions (one person). But the box was full from sometime late Sunday (east coast time). I apologize for the unprofessionalism this started off with. I made too many assumptions, thereby making an @$$ out of myself when all I wanted to do was help and use a talent and equipment at my disposal to promote EMC. This sort of error would have been catastrophic had it been a full fledged business (which one day I intend it to be). So my apologies to everyone, especially those who put up with trying to get files to me and being patient while I tried working out my bugs. I have a decent amount of pictures, but would like at least another 5 machines to showcase. Some of the machines received so far are very inspiring for me in seeing the creativity not only in the work they are producing but in the machines themselves. I don't think you owe any apologies - these things happen. I for one am thrilled to see that you are doing this, regardless of any minor hitches. I have some pictures of my EMC2 powered Shoptask lathe/mill on my website at: http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/shoptask?flav=index Instead of me dumping a bunch of stuff on you, take a look and let me know if anything looks good. I have the 10 megapixel originals for most if not all of the images... BTW, I'm pretty sure I have the original (rather large) movie file for the variable-pitch, variable-diameter threading. Might be fun to be use that instead of a screensaver. (The YouTube version won't work at the show unless you have a fast internet connection, but the movie version just sits on your disk and runs anywhere.) Regards, John Kasunich John - Thanks for the encouragement. I'll get a look at your images tomorrow and follow up. It's time to get my beauty rest :P Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Greg Michalski wrote: To all EMC2 users and enthusiasts: In coordinating with Dale Grover off list I offered to print up some backdrops for the EMC presence at NAMES here in Toledo, since there's a kind member with a CD duplicator in our midst negating the need for my previous offer of assistance, and I still wanted to lend a hand. So now I reach out to the list for your help - I need PICTURES of your machines! Lots and lots of pictures!!! (well not too many.) I'm thinking machines of all shapes and sizes, from custom builds to conversions, wood routers to behemoths, anything that has EMC2 moving it around. The higher res the better, I'm aiming at 24x36 plots. So clean up your shops, take some good pics and we can showcase the variety of machines running on EMC2. I love this idea, and if you get pictures, I would also like to make a section at www.linuxcnc.org where we could properly present them. There is atm a section with user machines in the wiki: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Case_Studies but these are all pictures for webreview, not for printing. Regards, Alex Everyone - The second email that just popped through made me realize something - if you have a username you use on IRC or other forum include that too _IF_ you want people to know that information. Thanks - I'm probably going to end up with way too much anecdotal information...luckily I am experienced at editing in my meat and potatoes work :--) Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
-Original Message- From: Alex Joni [mailto:alex.j...@robcon.ro] Greg Michalski wrote: To all EMC2 users and enthusiasts: In coordinating with Dale Grover off list I offered to print up some backdrops for the EMC presence at NAMES here in Toledo, since there's a kind member with a CD duplicator in our midst negating the need for my previous offer of assistance, and I still wanted to lend a hand. So now I reach out to the list for your help - I need PICTURES of your machines! Lots and lots of pictures!!! (well not too many.) I'm thinking machines of all shapes and sizes, from custom builds to conversions, wood routers to behemoths, anything that has EMC2 moving it around. The higher res the better, I'm aiming at 24x36 plots. So clean up your shops, take some good pics and we can showcase the variety of machines running on EMC2. I love this idea, and if you get pictures, I would also like to make a section at www.linuxcnc.org where we could properly present them. There is atm a section with user machines in the wiki: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Case_Studies but these are all pictures for webreview, not for printing. Regards, Alex Alex - I will definitely pass them along. I have one email so far but I need to setup an FTP option as his pics must've been too big since the preceeding email didn't come through, just the follow up description email. I am hopeful that we can get a decent number of pics in time for the show, hopefully everyone has their brooms out this weekend...(hint hint HINT) :--) Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
-Original Message- From: Stuart Stevenson [mailto:stus...@gmail.com] Gentlemen, I am setting up here to host a meeting from Thursday 21, May, 2009 thru Wednesday 27, May, 2009. We will have a meeting room w/AC. The room will have a projector. The room has seating for approx 10 people. There is some space for setup of tables. This is open to anyone wishing to attend. This is focused on EMC. Any and all interested parties are welcome. Other interests are most welcome but be forewarned 'proselytizing' will occur. :) No cost to anyone to attend. No registration necessary. Prior knowledge of the number planning to attend will be appreciated but not necessary. We have no schedule. We have no agenda other than play and projects. :) Bring safety glasses as this is a machine shop. We will be open and running during this time. thanks Stuart Stuart - Pardon my ignorance but where are you again? Sorry, never committed it to memory (and it's a bit buggy as is) :-( Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Everyone -
I have setup an FTP account on my website to accept large files (like I
requested) since it seems my mailbox won't accept larger messages (I thought
I had paid for enhanced email but - evidently not).
I don't want to post the log-in information to the list since it is publicly
archived, but contact me off list at Greg dot Michalski {at]
distinctperspectives (dot) com and I will forward the log in information and
a basic walk through of how to use FTP if you haven't before (don't be
offended at the step by step nature if you are familiar, I wanted to have a
copy/paste and have it applicable to all levels of experience).
So if you have tried to send me something and it bounced contact me at the
email for the instructions or check your mail because I've already responded
to several people with the instructions for FTP.
Thanks for the early support, hopefully it continues and we have a stunning
professional looking display that will make a statement that EMC is robust,
and is here to stay. If (like me...) you haven't previously made any
contributions to opensource development, this is an easy way to get started
by showing off what you've done with the software.
Thanks!
Greg
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-Original Message-
From: Peter blodow [mailto:p.blo...@dreki.de]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:54 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Hello Greg,
I tried to send you some pictures right away, but your mail server was
apparently so busy that I was told my mail could be delayed for up to 2
days. Please check your mail account, maybe it's overfilled. Large pictues
you wished make a lot of megabytes.
Peter Blodow
At 00:24 14.03.2009, you wrote:
To all EMC2 users and enthusiasts:
In coordinating with Dale Grover off list I offered to print up some
backdrops for the EMC presence at NAMES here in Toledo, since there's a
kind
member with a CD duplicator in our midst negating the need for my
previous
offer of assistance, and I still wanted to lend a hand. So now I reach
out
to the list for your help - I need PICTURES of your machines! Lots and
lots
of pictures!!! (well not too many.) I'm thinking machines of all shapes
and
sizes, from custom builds to conversions, wood routers to behemoths,
anything that has EMC2 moving it around. The higher res the better, I'm
aiming at 24x36 plots. So clean up your shops, take some good pics and
we
can showcase the variety of machines running on EMC2.
Thoughts for additional information to accompany photos (will either be
printed on the sheet or a card/plaque type stickon):
1. Your name location (so you can be properly credited)
2. The type of machine (eg: Bridgeport conversion, Self Designed
Wood
Router, Cincinnati 5 Axis Mill, Southbend XxZ custom conversion, etc.)
3. System specs (steppers, servos, travels, etc. - whatever you want
to
mention - I think vendor plugs should be ok - if not someone please let
me
know)
4. Commercial/Production or Hobby machine
5. Basically enough information that whoever is standing at the
booth
isn't fielding questions - a web page if you've got one dedicated to your
machine would probably be great too.
Email pics to me off list at : Greg dot Michalski at distinctperspectives
dot com or contact me there if we need to work something out for a large
(nice HIGH res pic) file transfer.
Greg
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[Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
To all EMC2 users and enthusiasts: In coordinating with Dale Grover off list I offered to print up some backdrops for the EMC presence at NAMES here in Toledo, since there's a kind member with a CD duplicator in our midst negating the need for my previous offer of assistance, and I still wanted to lend a hand. So now I reach out to the list for your help - I need PICTURES of your machines! Lots and lots of pictures!!! (well not too many.) I'm thinking machines of all shapes and sizes, from custom builds to conversions, wood routers to behemoths, anything that has EMC2 moving it around. The higher res the better, I'm aiming at 24x36 plots. So clean up your shops, take some good pics and we can showcase the variety of machines running on EMC2. Thoughts for additional information to accompany photos (will either be printed on the sheet or a card/plaque type stickon): 1. Your name location (so you can be properly credited) 2. The type of machine (eg: Bridgeport conversion, Self Designed Wood Router, Cincinnati 5 Axis Mill, Southbend XxZ custom conversion, etc.) 3. System specs (steppers, servos, travels, etc. - whatever you want to mention - I think vendor plugs should be ok - if not someone please let me know) 4. Commercial/Production or Hobby machine 5. Basically enough information that whoever is standing at the booth isn't fielding questions - a web page if you've got one dedicated to your machine would probably be great too. Email pics to me off list at : Greg dot Michalski at distinctperspectives dot com or contact me there if we need to work something out for a large (nice HIGH res pic) file transfer. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
I'm in the Toledo metro area and can donate a spindle (50?) of burnt .iso's - any suggestions on version (of Ubuntu) ? I might (depends on if I can secure the labels artwork before the boss goes out of town next week for business) be able to also run off a batch of stick-on labels if someone can point me to the fancy artwork that someone had done that I know I've seen. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Dale Grover [mailto:dgro...@redcedar.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:18 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19 Booth 15 at NAMES will be ours for demonstrating/promoting/distributing EMC. This is in the back, with Jon Elson and Steve Stallings in nearby booths to the sides. For better or worse, the person I spoke to at NAMES felt vender status was appropriate (due to distribution of software, even if given out free); it sounds like something to work on changing for next year (Ron Ginger's connections would be valuable). For this year, consider it my donation to one of the coolest examples of open source out there (as a recent post put it). Please let me know if you would like to take a shift or two in the booth; create a handout, banner, or sign; demo a system with EMC; or have other thoughts about how to promote EMC. Of course, many other exhibitors and venders will be running EMC systems elsewhere. This is a chance to place the emphasis on EMC itself. Right now there will be at least an Emco F1 mill, and hopefully at least one other PC running Axis for off-line demos. Steve Stallings will loan one or two PMDX-112 boards for illustrating configuration. There will be room for more machines, and more knowledgeable people (in both senses). It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing? Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just envelope printed or stamped). NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH. --Dale Would anyone have an objection to there being a table at NAMES to demo/publicize EMC? (Not necessarily an official EMC thing, but just folks who are interested in sharing.) There are at least two vender tables left as of this morning. --Dale (Yes, I'm volunteering to help coordinate such a thing, if there are no objections.) Dale Grover wrote: Will there be any official EMC2 presence at NAMES this year, such as a table? Steve Stallings of PMDX said he'd be there, and I'm also planning on going. Tha's not very official, but may be as good as it is going to get. Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- --- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Workshop / EMC fest
-Original Message- From: Chris Radek [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:46 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Workshop / EMC fest On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:33:05AM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Is there any news to report on a new venue to replace to CNC Workshop and/or EMC fest? I'd like to see a replacement for the full range of the CNC Workshop, but if we are only going to have an EMC Fest, I'd like to attend that. If the CNC Workshop doesn't happen, then I'm going to attend the NAMES show for sure. Have to start planning, it is only 6 weeks away! Thanks in advance for any news anyone can report, I think it's up to us to decide. Nobody is going to be able to make a full Workshop replacement this year because there's no longer time. I also haven't heard any talk of anyone wanting to do it. So I propose we narrow our goals to something EMC-specific. That's my interest anyway. We've had several offers of venues for an EMC meeting. I think Stuart's is the most appealing because of interesting ongoing projects there. So that's my preference. Chris I recall there being a suggestion for something in Ann Arbor due to its proximity for Toledo and coinciding with the NAMES show. I live in the Toledo area and certainly wouldn't mind seeing it held in this neck of the woods. A² is only a 45 min drive from Toledo. I don't have any space to offer (here or in A²) for a gathering (or time to commit to planning, etc.) but would like to attend some CNC workshop/EMC fest sessions, etc. I will be attending NAMES as well Jon. I have a couple ideas for a workshop/fest location that I could work on softening up for next year. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 10kHz Enable Signal?
Would the charge pump be easier and more practical to implement? I know my charge pump card wasn't picky about the actual frequency of the signal, anything at or above the 10Khz is sufficient. I don't know from a workload standpoint if one method over another (Charge pump vs PWM) is less CPU overhead or not. Just tossing the idea out there. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Florian Rist [mailto:fr...@fs.tum.de] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:43 PM To: Jeff Epler; Enhanced Machine Controller EEMC Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 10kHz Enable Signal? Hi Jeff To get a 10kHz square wave, you need to have BASE_PERIOD 5 or lower. Then simply set up a pwmgen. I guessed I need some PWM stuff, but it´s not that simple to get started with the HAL syntax. Here's a starting point for you. Thank you very much. cu Flo -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] RES: Successful Emc2 conversion (happy dance...)
Hi Tom - can't you remove them with a full depth finishing cut? Distinct edges like that are stress magnets ;) Steve Blackmore Hi Steve, Those are tapered walls. The contours for those pockets are about 50 thou inset at the bottom of the pocket, so the walls are that much thicker down there. It might be worth investigating using a 3/8 endmill with a 1/16 radius end. That would give some gradation to each Z level step, plus the bottom cut would have the full radiused corners. What you need is a 5-axis mill :) (nice stuff, by the way) - Steve Aside from a 5 axis (drool..), would a tapered endmill (such as used for mold work) achieve the desired angle? Just spit-balling. Very nice work Tom - great to see stuff like this. I better not let my brother see those - he loves his motorcycles (as I once did, now I value my brain staying within my skull since a friend of mine broke his pelvis in 3 places and wore a 'hoop' for nearly a year). I saw the mention of EMC2 2.3...at the risk of getting the whole list drooling on keyboards and causing mass crashing of emc-users list member's computers, is 2.3 expected within the next ~3 months or so? Again - congrats and keep machine info coming! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Voting time again..
The Board has asked Michael Cornelius to run the voting for us. Michael is not involved in the EMC project but he is a Free Software advocate in many ways and has graciously offered to help out (like he did last time). The Board will provide him a list of email addresses made from joining the lists of people receiving the emc-users and emc-developers emails. He will send a ballot to each person and have a special email address set up to receive the votes. When voting closes he will report back the names of our new Board members. When the time comes he will give us all specific instructions about how to vote. Alex - A simple procedural question - will voting instructions ballots be sent through the list or is there an email address we should whitelist to make sure they get through (don't want to inadvertently miss anything) ? Thanks. And good luck to all nominees - looking at the 2007 page it looks like a good crew no matter the results. Responsible voting will definitely take some serious deliberation so make your bio's count gents! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Telnet Interface questions
I don't have any suggestions - the code guys are better in that regard - butI do have a question - is your pendant project a commercial venture or an open source that you'll publish somewhere? I'm interested in what you're doing. Making my own intelligent pendant would be appealing (ok, pretty damn cool too - especially if I involve my dad for some help implementing touch panel tech from a previous job as opposed to buttons). At the very least let us know how your project turns out when it gets to where it's going. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: AKSYS Tech Pty Ltd [mailto:a...@austarnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:30 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Telnet Interface questions Hi, I have been working on a Ethernet based pendant/operator console for EMC for a little while now (whenever I get a spare moment) , and have run into a little problem. I am using the EMCRSH, Telnet interface to EMC. My pendant was going to be quite a simple affair, but as things go, it has grown larger that first anticipated. I now have up to 84 inputs, being pushbuttons, rotary switches and encoders, and LED indicators for all of these inputs. I also have a 8 digital photo frame as a monitor. These are all controlled by a microprocessor, which is also handling the Ethernet connection to my mini-itx EMC computer. The problem I am having is when I get an error from EMC, I can't get the error message back to my pendant. I have tried the Get Operator_display, Get Operator_text and Get error commands, but none of these are returning an error to me. I am testing this by issuing a simple G01 command from MDI mode, this should invoke an error in regard to having no federate. I get an error displayed on my EMC computer, but all my status reporting to my micro are returning OK's. Is there some other command I should be using??? Regards Andrew -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] SECONDED NOMINATION: John Thornton
The docs really are much better than when I first investigated EMC - thanks for your efforts there and participating on this list helping some of us who sometimes don't read too well before posting... Nomination seconded. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: sam sokolik [mailto:sa...@empirescreen.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:31 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] NOMINATION: John Thornton Have you notice how much better the docs are?? Nice job. sam -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bad motherboard capacitors?
I've repaired no less than 2 dozen MOBOs of varying brands (Soyo, MSI, Tyan, Dell, etc.) that all were simply in need of a capacitor or 6. Never bothered with a kit, just grabbed some from the 'Shack or the junk drawer or tacked onto an order to Digi-Key or Mouser. Easiest way to diagnose a bad electrolytic is a bulge on the top of the caps, or in the worst case fluid on or around it. Most are usually in the power section (usually have a toroid bearby) but some were in varying locations causing the odd behaviors you mention. Saved my tail on a MOBO based RAID situation where I'd have most likely lost it all if I couldn't have gotten the board up again. They really aren't hard to replace, get the same MFD value and a voltage rating equal to or higher than the original (hopefully it didn't get too hot and melt the wrapper) and just like any soldering on a multi-layer board that has SMT components nearby, use the finest tip you have and medium heat for minimum time. If it's a dead board then the couple bucks are a no brainer. If you have a decent multi-meter with capacitance metering, remove the suspect unit(s) and check to see if they're ok or not. Got nothing to loose at that stage. Good subject to bring up. Curbside finds are prominent around me because no one wants to wait for the biannual county electronics recycling drive to come around so they set them at the curb and usually someone like me comes along and snags them. $5 in caps can make for a nice Christmas gift to a digitally challenged relative :) HTH - as always YMMV :) Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Kent A. Reed [mailto:knbr...@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:14 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Bad motherboard capacitors? Gentle persons: In part because of the need for a parallel port and in part because of the latency-inducing problems that seem to arise more often with recent chipsets, we EMC'ers often seek out older motherboards/cpus. I'm curious to know if anyone has run into the problem of bad capacitors on their older boards, in particular, with Nichicon capacitors. (see, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague or http://news.cnet.com/PCs-plagued-by-bad-capacitors/2100-1041_3-5942647.html) If bad caps always left the system as dead as a Norwegian Blue parrot, then they'd be easy to diagnose. Unfortunately, it is also possible for them to result in various headscratchingly odd behaviors in systems that seem as if they ought to be working, which is tough to diagnose. This problem is by no means found only with Dell Optiplex systems of a certain age, but Dell sold or leased so many to businesses that they're statistically the most likely brand to be bitched about. I know several on this list have mentioned their success with Dell Optiplex GX/SX 260/270/280 boxes coming off lease. These are great little machines, especially the SX boxes which I personally like on several counts, but I have found I have to be cautious buying them sight unseen. Sometimes machines that failed in service were recapped in the repair facility, more often the motherboard or the whole machine was simply replaced. Good or bad, many of these boards and machines have made their way inevitably to eBay and surplus-equipment channels. Let the buyer beware. Ask if the seller doesn't mention that motherboard capacitors are new, replaced, recapped, or somesuch. Refurbished may be an insufficient description since it could just mean they erased the disk drive and wiped the finger munge off the front panel. Fortunately, there is at least one enterprising person on the internet who sells capacitor sets for motherboards but you need a certain level of skill to do the job. Regards, Kent PS - if you've ever tried to bring vintage tube-type electronic gear back to life then you already know all about the need to replace electrolytic capacitors but you might not have expected digital computers newer than your car to have the same problem. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Charge pump
My charge pump is setup to run whenever EMC is running - you may choose to have it disable when E-Stop is activated, etc. Here's what I believe is on my machine (too cold to go fire up and this is what I have in my archive folder on the laptop), the charge pump board I got from CNC4PC.com needed a quicker pulse than my servo thread IIRC so it's in the base thread, if you can run it in the servo thread instead it would probably be better as to real time performance, I have been known to be mistaken though :) loadrt charge_pump addf charge-pump base-thread net charge-pump = charge-pump.out net charge-pump = parport.1.pin-01-out #activate the charge-pump setp charge-pump.enable 1 Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Leslie Newell [mailto:les.new...@fastmail.co.uk] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:38 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Charge pump Does anyone know how the charge pump works in emc? I am using the stepconf wizard and have set pin 1 as charge pump output. However when I run emc, I never get any charge pump output. For testing I put an axis step output on that pin and I can see the steps coming out. I am using the 8.04 live CD. Les -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM
When I saw the images I had a feeling it was for some style of musket-loading pistol - very cool. Nice work and glad to see Synergy is working well for you. Definitely start a blog of you work. Replica work like this, though not the historically correct method used for the originals is very cool and I for one would love to follow your work. Personally I'd like to get around to making up my own AR-15 receiver with some flair (within the legal limits of personal use and not for sale - just being clear so as not to get anyone's knickers in knots). Granted not as historical as a musket but firearms are still a passion of mine regardless of the genre. Of course since I finally had a legitimate way to bring up firearms and EMC I now have the opportunity to tell Gene that I love the Ed Howdershelt quote in the sig line :) Personally I've only used defenses one and two thus far, someday (I'm a young'n in my mid-30s - lots of living left to do - I hope) maybe I'll be called upon for number three but I sincerely pray I never need to use four, especially for defense of freedom. Greg -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett [mailto:gene.hesk...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:31 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] made with EMC (of course) and Synergy CAD/CAM On Thursday 18 December 2008, Dave Engvall wrote: Hi, Finally got brave enough to try something with Synergy solids. The easy stuff was done in 2.5 D but the contour in the pic was done with solids. Used a .500 roughing mill to rough and then a 0.500 ball end to finish plus a bit of cleaning up with a file and emery cloth. ;-) http://imagebin.ca/view/EGO40Lt.html http://imagebin.ca/view/dHfREsy.html That is beautiful Dave. I need to do something similar with one of mine, but with a very abreviated rear end, just enough to let it be screwed to the stock. Thumbhole stocks don't leave a lot of room to be pretty behind the trigger guard as the rear screw flat is actually let into the front face of the pistol grip. I hammered up a couple of pieces of sheet brass, which looks redneck primitive. The other alternative would be to somehow extract the molded in guard from that Black Diamonds OEM plastic stock and let it into the bottom of that stick of maple its sitting in now. This hammered brass thingy is servicable, but has a quite low torr rating to its suction. BTW, I cut the group size that Black Diamond is shooting by 90% with one change. From only hitting an 8.5x11 target about half the time at 25 yards, to a 4, 10 shot group at 50 yards. I pulled the 209 breechplug and put a #11 nipple in. The #209 is way too much firepower, and is lifting the bullet free of the ramming before the powder gets lit, and that destroys the accuracy. The #11 percussion cap is not as strong and is more accurate because of that. Now if I could do that to my thumbhole stocked TC Omega. I made the breech with the #11 nipple ok, but its firing pin is so well centered it goes .065 deep into the middle of the nipple without firing the cap. Bummer. I need a missdrilled nipple I guess. Now back to our regularly scheduled topic, emc. Which, BTW, I used to make that breechplug for the T. C. Omega. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The real purpose of books is to trap the mind into doing its own thinking. -- Christopher Morley -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] equations in kinematics - an OT Thank You
Stuart - Thank you for starting this thread and posting your kinematics calculations. I hadn't delved into the kinematics aspect of EMC2, but reading through your calculations the proverbial light-bulb went on and how positioning is computed and achieved makes a lot more sense to me now. Once again - something new is learned every day subscribing to this list - I'll stow this for the unavoidable I'll never use this stuff in life argument my daughter is starting to use in defense of her math grades (sure, she's only in 8th grade and isn't exhibiting any interest in mechanical engineering but I can make an analogy that works :). Thanks again. Greg -Original Message- From: Stuart Stevenson [mailto:stus...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:14 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] equations in kinematics On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.net wrote: Chris Radek wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:14:04PM -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, which style of computation would run faster in the kinematics file? If they are equivalent (and I sure as heck didn't check that), I didn't check for correctness either. I did notice one thing that seems like a bad choice, but it may be intentional: ... va2=atan(-bskew1) va8=va7*tan(va2) ... since tan(atan(x)) should equal x, it seems you should be able to just use va8=-va7*bskew1. it was intentional only in that I have variables in my macro call that I use two different numbers if the magnitude of the variable is less than 1 I use it as a per inch error if the magnitude is GE 1 I use it as an angle this necessitates the extra step for testing when I write it for the kinematics I will only use the per inch error it will make little difference whether you split it up like #1 or have huge statements like #2. The compiler will do approximately the same work I was in the middle of writing a similar statement, with some general instructions on writing a test program, when I decided to just write the test program instead :) I found that the first version runs 1,000,000 loops in about 0.5 seconds (on a 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo), whereas the second takes about 2 seconds. By making my own sqr function, that was cut down to about 1.5 seconds (this surprised me because I would have expected common subexpression elimination to work there, but I suppose gcc can't know if any of the called math functions save some state and may therefore return different values from call to call). . The only concern is which one you can understand better when you (or some other unlucky person?) come back to it later. That is a big concern, and the code runs pretty fast anyway. Like I said, my 2.2GHz CPU can run the slower version 500,000 to 750,000 times a second, so even a 500 MHz CPU, that's not as well optimized for math, should be able to do it 100,000 times a second (or about 100 times as often as necessary) speed was my main concern thanks Stuart - Steve -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Dedicated hardware for Real Time OS
Roberto - There seem to be a lot of replies to your topic but it somehow diverged into a developer conversation. I think what would help you most is the list that is on the wiki that people contribute latency test result numbers that are associated with their exact setup so that you can see what to expect if you find Brand X, Model Y motherboard with Z memory and A video, etc. It's on the emc2 wiki - http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test . I think the information you're looking for is that list as you can see what to steer clear of and what gives really good test results. That's the answer I'd give you - now my personal hardware situation - I am running an old P3 650MHz Gateway motherboard with onboard video and audio and I get a 13000 Max jitter on the fast thread which isnt wonderful, but it runs the mill (a Grizzly X3 using steppers on Gecko drives) just fine - I get 60ipm rapids with no issues running programs. It's a bit slow load a LARGE program and is a little sluggish switching between workspaces (when I'm not running code I switch and hand edit .ngc files in the 2nd workspace so EMC is still in the 1st workspace) but other than that it is fine. I had originally planned to use a 2.4GHz Celeron in a VIA chipset MSI board but that got 18000 jitter. My current desktop (which is soon to be decomissioned) gets a 7000 when I run the trial CD. That has a 2.53GHz P4 3GB DDR, onboard 10/100/1000 LAN and using a Radeon 9600XT video card (forget the memory on the card) - once I finish all the other original parts of my mill (limit switches, pendant, etc.) I'll upgrade that desktop mobo into the mill since it's almost 2x as fast and doesn't show any sluggishness, and loads the same large .ngc files rapidly (nearly instant). I admit I haven't entered my hardware info into the wiki list, which I should - the idea is to have as many people list what they've got and then people starting out have an idea of what they should look for. HTH - sorry for the long winded response. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Roberto Caminiti To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Dedicated hardware for Real Time OS Hi everybody, I see that the newest hardware with frequency tuning and with many advanced features not always give the best performances in terms of latency, used with an RTOS. So now I will ask you... Are there on the market a special hardware designed to be used in Real Time environment? Where? So I think that this hardware is minimal, so I need only: - VGA - one or two PCI slot (for mesa cards) - Serial ports and/or parallel ports - One or two USB - LAN And so without advanced features like bluetooth, wi-fi, HDMI, audio, etc... Thank you! Roberto - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: 11/21/2008 9:37 AM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off snip
I don't normally pile one, typically I ignore the irrelevant messages. Hell, I rarely even post unless I am fairly confident I have the answer to someone's question. Normally I sit back, read and constantly learn from the information shared on this mailing list - but I have had some unrealistic expectations placed on me at work (my meat and potatoes job) recently which I stood up against (successfully) and I want to support Stewart and Glenn as they addressed this topic - it is an important one. I don't know your complete situation - but I don't need to for the basic point, but it sounds like you had work that presented itself which you decided to go after thinking you could slap together a machine to allow you to perform the task and make some money. While that is a commendable aspiration, with two family members who work RD, specifically in process automation and material handling/quality inspection disciplines, the tool to complete the task typically goes through numerous simulations and revisions before it even sees it's first 'trial run'. Rarely is a one-shot attempt even taken, let alone successful unless it's the tinyest thing. Personally, my benchtop mill has been a work in progress for close to a year now (3 years if you count time before I spent a single penny on hardware, though medical issues have slowed my pace significantly), granted it's a hobbyist machine, but I do have an aspiration to turn it into a prototyping tool to allow some of the ideas rolling around in my head to actually make it into the marketplace and make me some profit. Money is tight and I want the best return on my investment so planning and simulating have been mandatory to make sure I don't purchase items that won't live up to expectations. So far everything has worked as designed and intended, and tuning has been the only real post implementation effort required. To bash a product outright on the mailing list is poor form - these messages are archived and you in turn are leaving a trail that could hurt someone else's livelihood. I see many posts about the products offered by the manufacturer you're bashing and they are predominantly positive or kindly asking for assistance to implement correctly. Maybe the item in question was ready, maybe it wasn't, but ultimately the choice was yours to use it. If you wanted a plug and play system, it sounds like an off the shelf CNC machine would have been the better choice for you, but then you'd have spent a lot more and your profit margin would have been significantly lower, if even positive. To aspire to build a machine on a short schedule and expect to immediately turn around and use it for a production job is admirable, and occasionally even achievable, but the blame lies ultimately with you - thorough planning and testing are not optional, especially with machinery as dangerous as what the majority of the list deals with. I hope that you didn't screw over a client - not only for your sake, but for HIS, if you promised something based on a perceived ability rather than a proven one, again, that was your error. I am sorry for your loss of this job, but instead of venting and slingling mud, stop, take a deep breath, and learn from what you've done. Keep at the machine and I am confident you will have a reliable machine that will pay back your investment in time. And since open source is a collaborative effort - if there really is a problem/lack of function with the hardware you bought - work with the manufacturer to help them resolve it - that's the real point I wanted to make. No, you won't get paid for it, but they probably will thank you on the list for the community to see for any real help you provide them and that is a really good feeling. This is only my 2 cents, and in the current economy, that certainly isn't worth all that much.. To everyone else who couldn't care less - I apologize for going off topic and addressing etiquette, it gets mentioned from time to time, but this was a lengthy message so I apologize. Every once in a while it seems like a reminder that friendly and positive communications are not only prefered, but certainly more effective. And to round out my message on a positive note - THANK YOU TO EVERY VOLUNTEER WHO HAS DONATED TIME AND MONEY TO THE EMC2 PROJECT AND TO EVERY MANUFACTURER WHO HAS MADE AN EFFORT TO PRODUCE HARDWARE TO WORK WITH EMC2. YOUR HARD WORK IS NOT UNAPPRECIATED. rant off Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of snip Senor Acosta, I must agree with Mr. Edwards. La problema es suyo. Empezo un projecto sin tiempo y education. Ambos son muy costo. On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Richard Acosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El 09/11/08 18:55, noel escribió:
Re: [Emc-users] I J code
snip Isn't the math: I(relative) = I(absolute) - X(start) J(relative)=J(absolute)-Y(start) ? Carl Helquist Hello Carl Your math's is right (I think so) However your assertion in my ability or inclination to write a script or program, sorry wrong. Best wishes Dave /snip If that math is correct then couldn't you simply use Gedit (or your favorite editor) and do a replace and whenever I or J is encountered change it to subtract the variable stored for the current X or Y position from the I or J value ? (I haven't rooted around in the variables list recently but I'm pretty sure that the current is stored as a variable). If scripting (which is a lot easier than you might think) isn't your thing then it might be worth a shot. Learning a little bit of programming even at the basic levels can help out a lot in your future exploits. I'm tired and probably missing something but I've used the Find/Replace dialog to make wholesale changes to G-Code, of course I always preview it before running it. So tell me what I know I'm missing but I can't put my finger on right now... Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Port Breakout Board
snip So there is no default usage for each of the 12 outputs and 4 inputs? I'm thinking about a 3-axis small mill with limit switches on the two X and Y axis plus spindle on/off and two coolants. Outputs 3 Step and 3 Direction = 6 1 Common Enable, 2 Coolant and 1 Spindle = 4 Total 10 outputs Inputs 2 Left Limit and 2 Right limit = 4 Total 4 inputs. Will the .ini file allow this combination? snip There is a default, if you want to call it that, that the Stepconf wizard starts with, and a couple default pinouts for off the shelf control kits, but you can alter that to whatever suits your fancy so the combination you mentioned (although for clarity by left/right I assume you mean +/- for the limits on X and Y axes) would be possible. If you add a second parallel port ($5-15 PCI card) then you can get a little more advanced with its setup defining it as dedicated to be mainly input or mainly output (mine is configured as mainly input and IIRC it gives 12 inputs and 4 outputs - sufficient for me to eventually implement a spindle tach and dedicated +/- limits and homing switches along with a number of other expansion options). I can't answer the Pico/Pluto question but I know both are decribed in good detail in the documentation. I chose to design my own BOB as opposed to a commercially available unit so I didn't have to abide by any set pinout or other limitations. I will add .02 though - your inputs don't mention anything about an E-Stop input - I'd recommend adding that and running your limits in series if you don't want to add a second parallel port. HTH - I'm sure someone will expand on the Pico/Pluto but read through the docs and you'll probably see what is going on. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 12
Did you accidentally remove the line from the [DISPLAY] section of the .ini file that reads DISPLAY = axis ? My display section (old .ini version I have laying around on my laptop at the moment): snippet of an old ini file [EMC] MACHINE = SiegX3 NML_FILE = emc.nml DEBUG = 0 [DISPLAY] DISPLAY = axis POSITION_OFFSET = RELATIVE POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 1.2 INTRO_GRAPHIC = emc2.gif INTRO_TIME = 5 PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/cadmonkey/emc2/nc_files INCREMENTS = .1in .05in .01in .005in .001in .0005in .0001in PYVCP = panel.xml [TASK] /snip HTH Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Organic Engines To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:33 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 12 Hi, I was messing with my configs, HAL and INI, and somehow I made AXIS dissapear, everything is running according to system monitor, but AXIS is invisible, i.e. no GUI. Other unmessed with configs will work, after the 'emc is already running, restart?' dialog appears. Any quick insights? Dan - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1708 - Release Date: 10/4/2008 11:35 AM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working
Thanks for the suggestion - will keep it in mind. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Alex Joni To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working well.. not sure you can do much on 6.06, might want to try a 8.04 livecd, maybe that gets it working.. Try the stock Ubuntu 8.04 if the emc2 one doesn't do the trick. What I would do is get a cheapo access point, and set that up as a client, that way you connect using a regular eth card. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Greg Michalski To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working Alex - Similar question - I have a My Essentials (aka Belkin) USB b/g adapter that I couldn't get to run on my 6.06 which I abandoned after following several of the different driver wrap guides I found online at the time (before I joined the list and before Christmas 07 - they were onsale cheap 'Black Friday' and I planned to get 2 - one for home and one to float around the office at work since our illustrious neanderthal leader fears connecting the whole office to the internet - different discussion altogether, but there was only one left when I made it to the store). I assumed the wrapping of the windows driver was what was the problem but is there possibly more to it? When I'm back healthy and using my mill again I plan to run CAT5 to the garage but if there is something additional I may be able to try? Would save buying a whole 'nother box of cable for this run. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Alex Joni To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working Some extra drivers don't get installed in the default emc2 install script. try installing linux-ubuntu-modules-hardy-rtai sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-hardy-rtai from a terminal should do the trick. If that still doesn't make it work, you might also need 'linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-rtai' Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Bryce Johnson To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working I'm just started to use emc and I have cut out just a few things. I was surprised that it worked fine even though it is a 700mhz 128ram... and a laptop at that. I had ubuntu 8.04 installed and later ran the script to install emc. One thing that is a little annoying. I have pcmcia wireless card that works fine in regular ubuntu. But when I run the rtai kernel version that the script generated, my wireless no longer works. Does the pcmcia or certain wireless drivers get disabled by default in the install? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 01.10.2008 09:05 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 10/1/2008 9:05 AM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https
Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working
Alex - Similar question - I have a My Essentials (aka Belkin) USB b/g adapter that I couldn't get to run on my 6.06 which I abandoned after following several of the different driver wrap guides I found online at the time (before I joined the list and before Christmas 07 - they were onsale cheap 'Black Friday' and I planned to get 2 - one for home and one to float around the office at work since our illustrious neanderthal leader fears connecting the whole office to the internet - different discussion altogether, but there was only one left when I made it to the store). I assumed the wrapping of the windows driver was what was the problem but is there possibly more to it? When I'm back healthy and using my mill again I plan to run CAT5 to the garage but if there is something additional I may be able to try? Would save buying a whole 'nother box of cable for this run. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Alex Joni To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working Some extra drivers don't get installed in the default emc2 install script. try installing linux-ubuntu-modules-hardy-rtai sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-hardy-rtai from a terminal should do the trick. If that still doesn't make it work, you might also need 'linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-rtai' Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Bryce Johnson To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working I'm just started to use emc and I have cut out just a few things. I was surprised that it worked fine even though it is a 700mhz 128ram... and a laptop at that. I had ubuntu 8.04 installed and later ran the script to install emc. One thing that is a little annoying. I have pcmcia wireless card that works fine in regular ubuntu. But when I run the rtai kernel version that the script generated, my wireless no longer works. Does the pcmcia or certain wireless drivers get disabled by default in the install? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 01.10.2008 09:05 -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 10/1/2008 9:05 AM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] (no subject)
My 6.06 install runs nicely on a PIII 660MHz but I had to add memory upping it to 384mb for reasonable latency results. I've also had it running on a Pentium (the first class...) but never actually ran it, just tested the interface and got familiar with it. Are you getting an error message on the crash or just lockup? Onboard or separate video card? If you have a junk box try swapping some different hardware into the setup. You are installing it from the LiveCD ISO from the emc linux homepage not from a combination of Ubuntu and then compiling emc right? Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Tod Spooner To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:27 PM Subject: [Emc-users] (no subject) Hello I have been playing with emc2 on a home built router for a few weeks now and want my good computer back. I have an old pentium II 333Mhz 192M ram with Mepis lite installed on it I have tried to install ubuntu 6.06 with emc included but it will not install, the install crashes. My questions are can I use Mepis lite to run a version of emc2?, is there a version of emc2 that will run on an older PC, can emc2 run stand alone? Cheers tcspooner -- Get your information fix on your phone. With MSN Mobile you get regular news, sports and finance updates. Try it today! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 9/30/2008 7:08 PM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Axis question - blame me :)
I was the culprit that posted that SourceForge request to way back before I read a lot more of the docs, got active on the list and investigated the examples included. I don't have much time right now, or the clarity of thought to rehash what I ended up learning, but my intent was to look for a way to run a macro and there is an example included in the EMC2 stuff that shows how to use the probe command with variable and touch the Z off to a machine point thereby setting the Z for the new tool. It has been discussed on the list since then and a link posted - - Original Message - From: Chris Radek To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] R: New user new problem On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:33:00AM +0200, snoopy wrote: Whit a collet I can do the change correctly, but I?m more happy if I find an automatically zero tool procedure whit a switch/probe. http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/nc_files/tool-length-probe.ngc?rev=1.4 This Gcode program shows how I do that. This sample file is also in the EMC2 distribution. That was posted back in August and basically does what I was looking for in automating the Z length at a tool change with a simple insulated pad mounted to a fixed position on the table and connected to the probe input (basically a piece of single sided PC board bolted to the T slots at a spot I don't really use commonly but is available to the spindle centerline - single sided PCB material keeps it insulated from the table so the tool touching can complete the probe circuit). By moving in the machine coordinate system (as opposed to an offset coordinate system) the position is easily repeated, the Z zero of the new tool calculated, and that dimension applied to the Z value converting it to the new Z for the newly inserted tool, obviously you need to run it at the start so the original tool length is saved as the initial reference to correctly calculate everything from there on. I haven't actually used it yet (been laid up with some medical issues and the last thing I have had time to do is work on my hobbyist mill). Others may have additional requirements they are looking for but I really should have gone back and canceled that request as this method solves the problem for me. It may not be as nifty as a GUI button to do it as a Macro but you can easily set the code as a O code that you call when you run a tool change. Not hard to insert that into a .ngc file and then search for each M6 and add the O call immediately following that before starting any more operations. My .02 HTH YMMV :) Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Steve Blackmore To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Axis question On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:54:01 -0500, you wrote: Steve Blackmore wrote: Hi Jeff - thanks for the answer, but a major drawback IMO :( It doesn't make EMC very user friendly for those without toolchangers or setable tool lengths, only way around it I can see is load each tool as a separate program, Yup, that's how you learn to work around it. Hi Jon It is only a work around, at best. and if you happen to break an insert or tool - I guess your sunk. No, at least Axis will hold the currently executing line on the screen so you can remember the line number when you pause. After changing the tool and resetting the length, you highlight that line and click on start from line in the machine menu (I think), and then hit R for run. It will restart at that line. Yea - you need to pause, then note line, then stop, then jog, then set next line, then run. Can't jog until you stop. Steve Blackmore -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1683 - Release Date: 9/21/2008 10:10 AM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed
Good luck tomorrow - my 2 cents if it helps - 2) Remember the home value is signed (+/-) so change the value to search for home in the other direction. 3) A joint is an axis - joint 0 is the first one defined in the ini file, etc. so if homing failed on joint 1, then it failed on the second joint identified in your .ini file. As to why it fails when it hits the switch, open up the halscope and make sure your looking for the right value on the switch first and going in the right direction. Are you sharing the home switch as a limit and if so is EMC aware of that (IIRC HomeIsShared = 1 or something like that - check the docs) Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Simon Daykin To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Many thanks to all who helped me both on here and on IRC tonight. I now have the spindle speed reported correctly in my widgets! I can control the spindle from standstill to max speed using the manual page, although it is a bit laborious! Jobs for tomorrow... 1) Work out how to tell EMC to run the spindle at X speed when I do an S command... e.g. S500 = 500 rpm. 2)Try and get the homing of the axis working properly, it currently homes in the wrong direction on X (My lathe is a slant-bed) 3)Work out why a home command fails on a joint during the homing command when it hits the switch. (probably need to work out what a joint is first!) Thanks Simon - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1671 - Release Date: 9/14/2008 7:16 AM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 5 axis cinci ball test
Stuart - That is just awesome. I wish I had toys like that :D (Even with the investment that would obviously be aimed at making money from it's use, the conversion would be really really fun! Therefore to me it's a toy ;) I posted a link to that video on my website - hope you don't mind :) It fits nicely with the link to my EMC2 simple stepper setup tutorial to encourage newcomers. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson To: EMC2-Users-List Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: [Emc-users] 5 axis cinci ball test Gentlemen, for your consideration cinci ball test on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn1bJ3YAQdI thank you very much for your help Stuart - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.15/1648 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 5:29 PM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] R: New user new problem
Thats where I saw it! Sure it's not a fancy automated function implemented as a feature in EMC but the variables are there to make it possible. Thanks for the link Chris - my machine is covered with some tarps right now and the dual boot system is in Billy Goat mode crunching away at video recording/compression/burn cycle so it would have taken some time for me to find it in the samples. Snoopy - I hope that helps and makes sense to you - all it is doing is taking the value that is probed at the start (and each successive time) and using that as an add/subtract to calculate the new offset to find the new Z zero and allow you to move onto the next cutting operation with the correct tool length set. Read the documentation about variables and I think you'll understand what his code is doing. You'd need to insert that manually into any G-code you generate (I believe Cambam (what I use) lets you add G code routines into the MOP tree so saving the code for insertion whenever you start a new operation with a different tool should be fairly easy - otherwise there's always the text editors (see the other threads that have sprung up recently about those...)). Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Chris Radek To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] R: New user new problem On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:33:00AM +0200, snoopy wrote: Whit a collet I can do the change correctly, but I?m more happy if I find an automatically zero tool procedure whit a switch/probe. http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/nc_files/tool-length-probe.ngc?rev=1.4 This Gcode program shows how I do that. This sample file is also in the EMC2 distribution. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1608 - Release Date: 8/12/2008 4:59 PM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] New user new problem
Well lets see here - are you talking about an automated Z touch off plate with a script/macro of some kind that moves the tool to a certain machine coordinate and touches a plate, triggering the probe circuit and identifying the new Z offset value to use then returns to machining after finishing a manual tool change? Or are you looking to adjust the tool table file and use that with a rigid holder system that maintains a repeatable Z? Some details of your machine would be helpful - ie: R8 collets, Morse Taper collets, CATxx or NMTBxx holders, etc. I know I have seen something of the Z touch off plate and a set of G-code commands that would be a starting point of a script/macro to set the Z offset but I'd need to do a bit of searching as I saw that well before I had my machine up and running and I haven't finished the basic stuff I want let alone gotten into more automation. It's still off in the horizon for me. Hopefully someone else can lend some more help. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: snoopy To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:34 AM Subject: [Emc-users] New user new problem Hi, i am a new Italian Emc user (sorry for english), i have a problem: Can I, when emc change tool give o the new tool a new zero? Ciao sono un nuovo utente della mailing list, ho un problema con emc2: Posso, quando emc riceve m6 cambiare lo zero utensile? Può azzerarsi in automatico il nuovo utensile? Grazie per le risposte. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 4:59 PM -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Basic Installation and Configuration Tutorial Final Draft
http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2installsetup/ Ok, this covered everyone;s comments exceopt I didn't make the PDF yet - I'll do that tomorrow once this gets rubber stamped I think it's pretty comprehensivel Enjoy and once the PDF is made I'll put a link up on the homepage, link it to the wiki and mke the page live. Thnks again for the input. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Basic Installation and Configuration Tutorial Final Draft
Don't mean to turn your how-to into an Ubuntu guide but reading the fine manual is a basic thing many users skip over. I agree - and then they blame the software - thus is the point of the tutorial - a hopefully knock on wood, cross my fingers, nearly foolproof way to get them started so they see what they were missing and increase the number of converts (insert sinister Mr. Burns finger motion here). I'll add a comment about reading the help files - Hardy is 8.04 right? I'll locate the 6.06 version help files link off my install(s) for people to have that info handy. It'll be a simple addition. Thanks for the suggestion. PPoE was one of the complaints I had when they started DSL - now the modems they are replacing the worn out ones with (well at SBC at least - my office has a DSL connection) has the PPoE setup built in so it acts just like a cable modem or router. I won't digress into all my other issues between the two. :) I know for some (like my office it's either the best choice, only choice or only cost effective choice (the office got a 53k quote to extend lines to the building + business rates of 75% over for the same service I get at home - and still a dynamic IP not static). Thanks for the feedback - the PDF version is looking rather nice right now. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: jbraun To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users]Basic Installation and Configuration Tutorial Final Draft One thing worth mentioning to people unfamilar with Ubuntu is the help files are a must read. On Hardy these are accessed by clicking the question mark on the top bar. For example it explains how to enable a ADSL pppoe connection. The network assistant is next to useless for this type of connection which might confuse some users. Don't mean to turn your how-to into an Ubuntu guide but reading the fine manual is a basic thing many users skip over. This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Basic Setup Tutorial - draft
Thanks for all the comments - I'll try and incorporate as much of this as possible - I'll think I'll make a separate PDF link for someone to download and print off to combat the black background issue - IE7 always inverts the page for me but I have a BW printer at home so maybe it's the printer being self aware and cutting down on toner usage. In reality these steps are mostly covered in print form in the current users manual - though I'm sure a noobie wouldn't dig through the manual to find those pages and print them off. Personally I have a binder for each of the manuals and was grabbing them from time to time when I was setting up the actual mill. I understand on the going off topic - I'm kinda medicated and my thought processes are not as focused as normal. With a new day a new read through will probably reveal more issues to me that I don't like :) Thanks for pointing that out so I can be aware to keep focus. Thanks again everyone! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Emory Smith To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Basic Setup Tutorial - draft Well done! I don't have much to add that hasn't been covered but, when CoffeCup expires, give SeaMonkey a try. I use it for my QD web stuff. Available for Win, Lin Mac and can be configured to always come up in html edit mode. And it's free at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Also search for 'loos' and change to 'los' where appropriate. (As in steps ;^) The black background was mentioned. I like it and have no problems printing anything with any background. It would be simple to copy paste everything into OO's word processor and export as pdf and put up a link to the pdf. Keep up the good work, Emory - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Basic Setup Tutorial - draft
Thank you Steve! Thats more like it! I feel at home now - peace and bliss, the universe is in harmony...wait a second - now this feels like work...my doctor would not approve... :) (Don't worry - he's more worried about the documented rise in my blood pressure when dealing with my boss and I need to keep my BP down this week so the procedure they performed can take hold - this is enjoyable to me an he said to keep my mind stimulated so the blood flow was normal). a.. I'll adjust the colors - not much web design experience I confess - I'll try some different combos to find one that is easier for all to read - that magenta is dark ain't it... b.. You are correct, the current version of EMC2 is 2.2.5 but the current Live CD ISO is 2.2.2 - I'll make that distinction a little clearer. c.. I'll recommend being connected because I think you are right - if I recall when I first installed 2.2.1 (or maybe when I blew away 2.2.1 because it didn't have stepconf included and installed 2.2.2) without the internet it did link to the 2.1 repository not the 2.2 so it didn't see the updates when I connected - thankfully I was savvy enough to find the repository link definitions - not sure if that got changed with 2.2 but better safe than sorry - as easy as I can make it for new hesitant people the better. d.. Invert comment - will do that hadn't occurred to me. As mentioned in previous posts my mill is converted and running and this tutorial is kind of something to keep me busy while laid up on doctors orders so some things that I learned/just knew slipped my mind as I did a dualboot on my desktop and lie in bed writing this up on the laptop - irony is I hardly ever use the desktop anymore and the latency results of my desktop are much better than what is in the garage right now...I smell a swap coming... e.. Units dependent on previous selection - easy enough. f.. Good point on soft limits - I should have known better - I don't have my switches installed on my mill yet - if I was allowed to run around I'd be working on that so my soft limits are disabled because in early stages I lost steps and the machine thinks it is somewhere way off in the weeds when really it's dead center so as a workaround till I get the limits on I did that as opposed to diabling the limits completely (right now they are just inverted so that when I install them I only need to uninvert and no extra setup is needed). g.. Ah that's right - I forgot that is a signed number will note that. h.. I had a feeling there was something wrong on the homing - it was getting late when I wrote that and I didn't grab the manual to get it right. Will correct. i.. Thats right - only one realtime unit at a time - good warning for folks (and fyi IIRC it just locks things up or causes an error saying hal had a problem and then I think I needed to reboot to get EMC2 to start again - I admit I read most of the manuals but not everything - luckily that was on the bench before it ever saw a connection to the machine but I'd hate for a noobie to damage something or hisself and blame me/EMC) j.. Join the club - I don't understand where the parameters come from but I understand what they are looking to do. Maybe I'll just tailor it for what I would do on my machine - that way it's correct for mine when I get around top a PWM spindle control. The text is almost copy and past from section 4.3 of the manual Determining Spindle Calibration - maybe someone can enlighten me on PDM so I can address that also. Thanks Steve - thats a nice comprehensive list from which I learned, everyone on this list probably learned, and many noobies (I hope) will learn from. I'm finding spelling errors that CoffeeCup missed and some grammar errors - I'm not as concerned with grammar as spelling - when I make the PDF version I'll let InDesign do a spellcheck and make those corrections back in the the .html files. Coffee Cup took nearly a minute to replace a word - something didn't make sense there. So for now I'll pass on that check :) I'll add your and other's corrections into the sections and then proceed with making the individual pages as suggested for ease of use. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wille Padnos To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Basic Setup Tutorial - draft Greg Michalski wrote: Just a quick note to those who gave feedback - everyone seems to be almost apologetic about their criticisms. Don't worry about it - 1) I asked for them so it can be the best and help the most people across the most levels of experience as possible, so don't apologize - multiple sets of eyes and brains are better than just my somehwat underperforming brain :) 2) Come work for my boss - I'd have 15 handwritten pages of changes on this (if he knew a lick about what
Re: [Emc-users] Possible bugreport needed?
Jeff - Thanks for the in depth reply - I'll leave my wording at don't use spaces in the machine name. I was smart enough to figure out thats what caused my problem but a rookie still apprehensive would likely give up at that point. I actually understand what you explained - I must be getting my brain back into the thought processing I used to have it trained to do when I was writing QuickBasic programs as a kid. When 2.3 comes out I'll have to install and revise my tutorial accordingly. Must be nasty weather in other places - people are posting back quite a bit - that or I'm just popular! (I know - it has to be the former rather than the latter :-L ) Weather is nice here (right now) wish I was allowed to go jumping around but hey EMC2 gets my talents for a bit :) I'd be in the garage machining myself if the doctor hadn't said no-no to that for at least 2 or 3 days. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Epler To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Possible bugreport needed? On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 12:43:44PM -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: This bug has been fixed in TRUNK, so it will be in EMC2 2.3 for sure. I'm not sure if it's an oversight or if there's a good reason why the fix hasn't been backported to the 2.2 branch. If it's just an oversight, the fix will be in 2.2.6, which will be released before 2.3. Allowing spaces in configuration paths required a change to halcmd parsing that might break some working configurations. For this reason, I have so far chosen not to put the fix in version 2.2. Basically, the emc runscript executes something like this: halcmd loadusr io -ini $INIFILE Let's say that infile is /bad idea.ini. /bad idea.ini goes to the 'halcmd' program as a single positional argument, but halcmd then does a round of parsing and turns it into two arguments: /bad and idea.ini. The change causes halcmd not do to this parsing, and thus avoid splitting the word again. However, this can affect valid halcmd invocations, because before this change you could write halcmd loadusr and2 count=1 or halcmd loadusr and2 count=1 in a shell script and get the same result. After my change, the first command will be an error because loadusr and2 count=1 (the whole thing taken as one argument) doesn't name a valid command. Jeff - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC Basic Setup Tutorial - draft
If anyone would like to review and critique this Stepconf tutorial webpage before it goes live I'd love to have some input from those more knowledgeable and experienced than I. Be brutal - I can take it. (Unless it's layout related - I'm still inept at web design - free 30 day trial of Coffee Cup's WYSIWYG app is enough glitz for me at the moment. It's simple and cheap enough that I can run the 30 days and then purchas a copy of it). http://www.distinctperspectives.com/emc2installsetup/ Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Bouncing email
I simply setup a Postmaster account on my Go-Daddy hosted site - and the emails started showing on the listserv again. Definitely something has changed since I first set up my identity here and had sent a number of posts to the group and then got slapped with that suddenly. If you're on one of the really simple hosting plans where you don't have 100 email accounts then yeah - you're screwed but if you have multiple accounts just setup one named postmaster and have it forward to your primary account. Good luck. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Eric Johnson To: emc-users mailing list Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Bouncing email Hi all, Somewhat off-topic, but did something change at SourceForge, and is there anything I can do about it? Specifically any email to this list from my original registered email address is now getting bounced. The error message is: 550-Response: 553 sorry, mail to that recipient is not accepted (#5.7.1) 550-Several RFCs state that you are required to have a postmaster 550-mailbox for each mail domain. This host does not accept mail 550-from domains whose servers reject the postmaster address. 550 Sender verify failed My domain, email, etc. is all handled by GoDaddy, so I don't think I have the means change that. I re-registered through my Hotmail account, but it is not nearly as convenient. Is there a work around, other than what I have already done or anything else that can be done? Thanks, Eric -- Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Sieg X3 Conversion with EMC control
If anyone would like to take a look at the print set I put together for my Sieg (Grizzly G0463) X3 mill CNC conversion and critique it I'd be EXTREMELY appreciative - I'm not schooled in mechanical drawing (I work for a dreaded architect...) so anything that doesn't make sense being pointed out would be very helpful. I borrowed Solid Works licenses from my brother's company and taught myself to model the parts in there as opposed to solids in Autocad which made it much easier and then used the standard tools to label and dimension, etc. I can take HARSH criticism so flame away! These documents are 100% public domain - everything I learned to design the conversion was garnered from information shared here, on CNCzone.com and elsewhere so this is my attempt to give back to the community - and on a mailing list for a GPL software package seems the optimal place to ask for some input - also is there is somebody who is familiar with the details of GNU GPL let me know if referencing the intent on these documents as I did is appropriate or not. I was in a rush to get these out to the community by my promised end of July deadline and license was the least important thing so I kind of winged it. Come to think of it - I forgot to plug EMC2 in the introduction section - guess I can start revision 2... Thanks again. Greg Michalski www.distinctperspectives.com- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Sieg X3 Conversion with EMC control
Might help if I include the link - http://www.distinctperspectives.com/X3/X3_CNC_CONVERSION.PDF - Original Message - From: Greg Michalski To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Sieg X3 Conversion with EMC control If anyone would like to take a look at the print set I put together for my Sieg (Grizzly G0463) X3 mill CNC conversion and critique it I'd be EXTREMELY appreciative - I'm not schooled in mechanical drawing (I work for a dreaded architect...) so anything that doesn't make sense being pointed out would be very helpful. I borrowed Solid Works licenses from my brother's company and taught myself to model the parts in there as opposed to solids in Autocad which made it much easier and then used the standard tools to label and dimension, etc. I can take HARSH criticism so flame away! These documents are 100% public domain - everything I learned to design the conversion was garnered from information shared here, on CNCzone.com and elsewhere so this is my attempt to give back to the community - and on a mailing list for a GPL software package seems the optimal place to ask for some input - also is there is somebody who is familiar with the details of GNU GPL let me know if referencing the intent on these documents as I did is appropriate or not. I was in a rush to get these out to the community by my promised end of July deadline and license was the least important thing so I kind of winged it. Come to think of it - I forgot to plug EMC2 in the introduction section - guess I can start revision 2... Thanks again. Greg Michalski www.distinctperspectives.com -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Another eBay Find
..closet genius... LOL! Greg www.distinctimpressions.com http://www.distinctimpressions.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Wallace Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:51 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Another eBay Find http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=250260932713 I would bid on it but, they will only load it on your truck. I was hoping that it could be shipped in two parts. One plus, it has a tool-changer. -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe, Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, Zubal lathe conversion pending Craftsman AA 109 restoration Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC) - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help
I had a board running a Celeron that did the same thing. The 2.8G (IIRC) Pentium had crappier results than the 650MHZ P3 curbside find I am running. Fix the latency first. You may end up changing building blocks that have a domino effect on other items (parallel port addresses, etc.) My .02 Greg _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Morley Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:07 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help Hi Jack. What version of emc2 are you using? There was some quirks with stepconf on earlier versions-make sure you have the latest version. The latency test is not really to see how slow/fast your computer is, it is to see how late it is on scheduled tasks. Sounds like your computer can be really late. You need to fix this before doing any serious work as it could cause missed steps which will ruin your work. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:48:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 21:59 -0500, Jack wrote: I have EMC2 installed on an old Compaq iPaq desktop running Ubuntu 6.06 from the EMC2 install CD, driving a HobbyCNC controller and gantry with Kirk lead screws. When I use the sample stepper_inch config it works, but I need to tweak the configuration some to change the stepping (thread pitch, etc) but when I try to generate my own using the config tool in Axis, it just doesn't work. Suggestions? I figure this is probably something dumb I am doing, and I am willing to RTFM, I just need some direction. You might try the pitch change to your working sample file. Just edit the SCALE = XX to match your lead pitch and motor/screw ratio. This will change the step rate requirement for a given axis rate, so you might reach your stepping rate limit earlier or later. Compare the working and stepconfig file differences and add each change to the working file until it doesn't work, then research the last feature you changed. With the sample config, it is jogging back and forth OK, but it is not set for the right threads per inch for the lead screws. You may be stalling your steppers because the stepping rate may have changed. You may need to find the max stepping rate (not axis feed rate), then tune different settings to to maximize it. Once you find the maximum rate, adjust your maximum axis feed rates to stay below the stepping maximums minus a safety factor. Once I get this working, next comes home and limit switches and a hardware emergency switch. The latency test runs, but if I do try to use the computer, sometimes the numbers go out of sight. 'Normally' it runs about 15000. When it goes 'crazy' It reads over a million. My 500MHz celeron may be to slow, but it is what I am playing with for now. Thanks. ... Jack In my opinion, you need to fix the latency test problems first, so that you have a stable system that will give you more consistent behavior. Check items 2 and 5 here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting and: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing Another issue that may come up with larger machines, with fine pitch screws, high (low?) motor/screw gearing or high feed rates, which translate to higher step rates. The PC parallel port tends to be too slow. You may need to consider going to a hardware step generator like the Pluto-P, Pico UPC, or others. -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe, Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, Zubal lathe conversion pending Craftsman AA 109 restoration Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC) - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users _ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] E-stop Surprise
Wow - I guess I should be proud of myself that I had a physical estop button and a machine kill switch designed in while things were still on the bench! Ok, enough bragging - get your physical estop button - that button, even one of the high dollar ones, is worth its weight in gold compared to the damage it can do to the machine (or you) if things go awry. I wonder - did your program actually specify a new tool (ie m6 t02) or just an m6 with you knowing what tool it needed next. My mill stops on the M6 T2 that was generated by CamBam and waits (typically I'd been handcoding and doing separate programs for each tool since I don't have an automated touch off concept in place yet). I'm not sure what the manual says about the M6 command but maybe somewhere in the code the toolchanger portion realizes the tool is the same as that currently specifiec and lets the program run on, though still pops up the window for the toolchange. I'm still spoiled by the keyboard - I hit escape (and usually tap it multiple times as I'm used to being deep in autocad levels of commands that I wanted to end) and if necessary F1 more often than I use the mouse, when I complete my operator's station I'm going to need to add another E-Stop switch in the loop as I won't be within rapid reach of the one on the controller anymore. My thought is you should have a mechanical estop in the loop anywhere you might possibly be while the program is running (ie:console, enclosure, spindle) so that you can always stop it. You just have to train yourself to use them. Hope you learned your lesson and we figure why that happened and get anything that needs to be corrected taken care of. Maybe all the OK's should be on a common message center with an Ok and the background of that changes color when a new message is displayed and then goes to a standard background when everything is cleared. Just a thought, but I also think an M6 should stop regardless of what tool is in and what tool is scheduled. The interface has no way of knowing definitively that something wasn't changed. There's my .02x10^-23 - YMMV. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: John Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] E-stop Surprise Kirk, I ran into the same problem with the popup message about ... I forget the exact message but I rammed my carriage into my rails because the popup took focus from the main window and I clicked on the main window trying to hit the e stop button but it was not possible. I was not familiar enough with EMC at the time to know to hit the escape button and don't know if that is blocked too. I also was in the process of learning EMC and setting up my machine. In my case with steppers nothing was damaged. I still belive it is a bad practice to use popups and feel that all messages should be on the bar at the bottom and flash in red if a warning. John On 14 Jun 2008 at 0:46, Kirk Wallace wrote: My mill isn't fully functional yet and I neglected to realize the ramifications of this. A bracket I needed to make required a tool change, so I decided to just do it manually. I checked the program by lowering the knee and single stepping through the program, which at the time seemed okay. I raised the knee, started the program and drilled the holes. The table homed for the tool change displayed the tool change message and proceeded to go ahead with the program without stopping. Unfortunately, the new tool that didn't get changed is shorter so the tool collided with the table. I tried to click the e-stop button in AXIS but it had no effect. Then I realized that the tool change message had the window focus and I needed to clear it before the e-stop would work. I realize I made a few mistakes here, by not having a proper config file and a hardware e-stop button, but I wonder if there should be a way to have the AXIS e-stop always on top and available. -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe, Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, Zubal lathe conversion pending Craftsman AA 109 restoration Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC) -- --- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source.
Re: [Emc-users] E-stop Suprise
I wasn't trying to imply that the escape key should be someone's trusted way out, or that it's ok the button on screen didn't work. I was actually implying that it was still a bad habit of mine, as would be the button on the interface. I'm training myself to hit the estop(s) (meaing the physical ones) but old habits die hard - I'm still working on it. I agree the one one screen should always work, but the computer controller going bonkers is always a possibility therefore we should all - regardless of machine size or experience - have physical estops and train ourselves, and in the case of shops - the operators - to rely on them and not on the computer. I don't think I want to meet the designer of, or the machinist willing to wear your always active estop circuit :) Sorry if I ruffled feathers - wasn't my intent. - Original Message - From: John Thornton Wow - I guess I should be proud of myself that I had a physical estop button and a machine kill switch designed in while things were still on the bench! You can have all the e-stops you want but if you happen to pick the one that don't work... I'm still spoiled by the keyboard - I hit escape (and usually tap it multiple times as I'm used to being deep in autocad levels of commands that I wanted to end) Greg There in lies the problem you assume other people have the same experience, knowledge and skills as you. You miss the point entirely... If the E-Stop button is on the screen and I'm trying to press it with the mouse and it won't do anything I have lost precious seconds of time getting that experience. It doesn't matter if I have 27 e-stop buttons all over the place if I have the mouse in my hand my instinct is to use it first in an emergency just because it is the the closest thing to my finger. IMHO it is a mistake to have an e-stop where ever it is that only functions some of the time. I think that tension sensors should be mandatory in the rear of machinest pants and directly coupled to the always active e-stop circuit. When the clench comes the machine stops... John- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Gear Cutting
snip Another thought comes to mind, could wire EDM be used to cut very small gears and pinions? /snip I know I've seen someone take a rotary tool similar to a Proxon (beefy dremel type) and true out the spindle and cut his collets using EDM and they were fairly small. So I don't see why doing gears - as long as they are straight cut - couldn't be done with EDM. My .02x10^-10 YMMV Greg Michalski www.distinctperspective.com - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Installing a second parallel port
This is where Stepconf can help the someone less versed in the config files though - you can make multiple machine setups and then go through the .hal and .ini files and marry the two together to get the results you want without really having to know the details of the hal and ini files. I created my benchtop mill setup with stepconf on the motherboard parport, then when I wanted to add a second port I made another mill configuration that only had the items I wanted (the limits and other sensors, a few output controls) and then just took those pin assignments and changed the parport.0 to parport.1 and pasted into my benchtop config file - saved a lot of time and guessing. The hardest part was getting the addresses correct for two ports - I think for my card I have 3 addresses loaded but it only creates 2 ports - I forget where I got that hint from but the card needed 2 addresses to fully address everything. When I go home tonight maybe I can remember to offload a copy of my config file and post the header to give you some help. Greg Michalski www.distinctperspectives.com Kirk I have added.. loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x9000 addf parport.0.read servo-thread addf parport.0.write servo-thread to my hal file (hopefully in the right places). Can I not configure the pins through the step config wizard? No, you can't use stepconf to configure this. Stepconf is intended to make it easy to set up simple machines, or to provide a starting point for more complex machines. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam
Before flaming - I'm guessing you just joined today? There have been threads about both topics of late. Re Sheetcam - he's working on a different distribution method IIRC, and re parallel ports start at the wiki and in the documentation and then when you get stuck tell us where you're at and what you've tried so far. Welcome! Greg Michalski www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aaron Moore Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 4:54 PM To: EMC userslist Subject: [Emc-users] SheetCam Hi I have just installed sheetcam on my suse box and it is brilliant. However I do not seem to be able to install it on ubuntu, is it me or something to do with autopackage. Thanks Aaron -- Powered by Outblaze - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My Mill on EMC2
That's what I was expecting just the touch off took longer than the original parse so I was confused. Reading what you wrote helps me understand (it would have taken me weeks to understand the source code for that) and I am using variables though none that are system set, I set them all in the gcode file myself and manipulate with basic math. Still I now understand it has to resort all that math based on the new position. Your suggestion of a simple part is my future plan of attack. For the time being this was the most complex .ngc I'll be running for some time. I hope to get to small production runs but only time and idea generation will tell. Thanks! Greg Jeff Epler wrote: When you touch off, AXIS regenerates the preview plot. Showing a new plot after touching off is not as simple as moving the old preview plot to a new location, because gcode can do things like switch coordinate systems during a part program (e.g., issue G55 and switch to a system not affected by the Touch Off just performed for the G54 coordinate system) or even perform O- IF statements based on the interpreter variable that holds the G54 coordinate offset. One trick you might employ is to load a very simple gcode file, touch off, then load the real part program once you think your offsets are right. Jeff - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My Mill on EMC2
I'll try backing off the BASE_PERIOD setting. It's not on a network yet (need to run CAT5 to the garage still) but does have a D-Link network card in it. Thanks for the suggestion. Greg I wonder if just backing off on the BASE_PERIOD setting would help. The real time section with software step generation may be taking a little too much CPU time. One other thing, do you have it on a network? Something I've noticed on one system where I share the network jack is that any user interface stuff will run insanely slow for 10-15 minutes after you boot. I forget which network process is burning all the CPU time trying to establish some connection. Jon - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] My Mill on EMC2
Just thought I'd share my benchtop mill powered by EMC. http://distinctperspectives.com/coppermine/ It's a work in progress but I've got 3 axes operational - still some electronics to work on and a few goodies to machine for the mill and then it'll be 100%. A question though - when I have the file loaded and touch off to the workpiece - it takes FOREVER to get back to ready to let me touch off the next axis. What is this the result of? The .ngc file is www.distinctperspectives.com/X3/LimitBases.ngc I know it is a lot of milling (it took a while to run) but it took longer to update after touching off than it did to parse the file at loadup. I know I'm not running a top end system (it's a P3 650MHz w/384mb memory and onboard video that I picked off the curb one winter afternoon) but it had better latency test results (18000) than the newer MSI mobo with a Celeron and a gig and an ATI video card (I know the Celeron isn't the best for this kind of application but it's what I had to toss into the board which I got for a whopping $5 at a Hamfest because it had 2 bent pins on the BGA socket). Anything I'm doing wrong or is it just the limitations of the memory and processor speed? Thanks. Greg Michalski - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My Mill on EMC2
Silly thing was that the couple PCI video cards I had laying around didn't work under X AND they increased the latency test results. Maybe I'll grab a few different cards. One I tried was an S3 Virge and the other an old ATI. There is no means in the bios for disabling the onboard video completely so when I install from the .iso it defaults to the onboard video and doesn't initialize the additional card and I gave up trying to get either one to work because I couldn't get X conigured to work correctly. But thanks for the suggestion. I'm contemplating a mobo upgrade to one of the top performers on the wiki once I get CAT5 out to the garage. I may also be moving this year (I live with my brother and am starting to look at getting my own house, albeit smaller, but hopefully with a detached garage so I can let things hum away whilst I sleep) so I'm dragging my feet on that. I'll find out Tuesday what the banks have to say... It does run, and didn't miss a beat while running the program, just wondering what goes on inside those little transistors when you set a workpiece offset. Thanks for the response Dave. Every bit of input helps. :) Greg Chances are that dumping the on-board video for a card will change things. I'm running an Intel 'Seattle' 600 MHz P3 with a video card and 384 Mb of memory and getting fine response. HTH - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port PCI card
I picked up a cheap ($10) unit from the local computer store - I think they have dual port cards and I can already see I'm going to be adding more signals than my PCI slots will allow with single port cards so I'll probably go back. Just about any card should work - the wiki explains finding the address (lspci -v) of the card to use with your setup files just picking which addresses are required to input for the card are kind of confusing (I had to input 2 of the 3 addresses it spat out with the above command). It might take a little experimenting but with halscope it's not hard to check the whole port. HTH Greg Michalski -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:33 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port PCI card aaron Moore wrote: Hi Can anyone tell me what kind of parallel port pci card I need to connect my computer to the breakout board. I have one computer with no parallel port and another computer with a parallel port that does not give out the right signals I presume. I need to get one of them to work. Thanks Aaron Check at dalco.com for a 2 port card. That is the one I am useing, ordering another one today.Ed. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] spindle on/off
I like Alex's implementation - I'll leave it as the default on my primary setup myself as I do prefer it to shutoff between changes most times. But if I'm doing some simple jogging and need the spindle and some larger exact moves I'd have a separate configuration I'd run for that. Thanks for the quick action on that. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Joni Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:18 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] spindle on/off Hi Stuart, this wasn't an AXIS limitation. but rather an emc/emc2 design. I added an ini variable [EMCIO] SPINDLE_MODE If you set SPINDLE_MODE to 1 it will cause the spindle to keep running when changing modes, but also on abort (hitting escape). The spindle stops if you hit ESTOP. The default value for SPINDLE_MODE is 0, which causes the previous behaviour. This is available in TRUNK, and will be part of 2.3.x (if it's not disputed/reverted by then ;) Regards, Alex On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 10:13 -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, When using 'AXIS', is there a way to configure EMC2 to allow the spindle to continue running when switching modes between 'manual' and 'mdi'? thanks Stuart - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Still Crashing
-Alex Joni wrote- snip Please keep this list for discussing the usage of EMC/emc2 (and general machining topics from time to time). If you care about development or development related issues use the emc-developers mailing list. end snip I second that - and with the other comments popping up the motion is all but passed. I don't have a thing in the world against you Paul - I don't know you - I am sure you are a great guy with a lot to offer and some legitimate complaints and solutions. I understand there are behind the scenes issues and whatnot, but - I (as did many others) signed up for THIS list for the insight into the use, implementation and adaptation of EMC along with application ideas and machining concepts and other items of concern to the average user - not the majority of what has been piling up in my Outlook EMC sort folder over the past week. (Yes, I'm primarily a Windoze baby but can find my way around *nix well enough to have my home network server [and hopefully before too long my boss will see the light and I'll have the office on one too] on a slightly dated Debian install). I immensely respect ANYONE who does now, has ever, or will ever contribute to the EMC project or any branch thereof. Everyone deserves much MUCH credit - I did a bit of C programming when I was younger (back in the mid 80's) and recently did a few projects on some PICs from scratch but nothing tantamount to the vastness of EMC and a realtime OS patch, while still giving those amongst us who can understand most of what happens in command space but prefer the ease of point and click that interface. It's an immense undertaking and I commend everyone. I bet M)(*^soft has a hell of a lot more compile time errors on for profit releases that are saved for later than you bring up Paul, but this isn't the place to bring them up - unless the developers list is a permission based list and they won't let you on. Then I could understand a few emails a week to flag someone down. You've got their attention and most of them seem responsive. But now I've added to the growing number of unwanted emails piling up - and I'm just a nobody in suburban Ohio who simply wants to configure his mill the way he wants with the features he'll gets the most effectiveness from and needs a little nudge in the right direction every now and then - and I learn a lot on this list, and get some inspiration. I don't contribute to the list much, but I'm learning and hope to be a guiding hand some day. With all that said can we please try and minimize all the back and forth banter on this list? The thread to try and solve your CVS access is ok by me (though I'd rename the topic so it doesn't carry on the legacy of this one) - it's ongoing and that seems to be pretty calm and collected - and brings knowledge to the list so I don't have a problem with that. But if the other stuff doesn't slow down or halt I'm going to have to unsubscribe because it's just too much to filter it all to get at the stuff I came here for. There - I've said my piece (much longer than I intended -sorry bout that) - now back to my Memorial Day Weekend activities. * - Honor a soldier this weekend - US of A or other - they all have sacrificed and they all deserve our respect. - * Greg Michalski No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 05.24.08 08.56 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Scale and Rotate
Since you haven't addressed John's question about whether in view or machining - I'll tag on about the PyVCP - If you are expecting a panel to appear because you clicked the include custom PyVCP button in stepconf you won't - it simply includes a blank file that is already tied into the GUI for you to add you custom PyVCP xml code to. That might be something to add to the Stepconf interface to assist the noob's understand what it is really doing. I will admit, I was expecting some blank panel to appear when I first opened Axis - even with reading the manual - but then saw all the code examples on the wiki and elsewhere. :) And cool response on the bicycles! Do try and post some pics of your future molds and the resultant product. Greg 'cadmonkey' - Original Message - From: Organic Engines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Scale and Rotate Hi, Do scale and/or rotate exist in EMC2? Where is my PyVCP hiding? Thanks, Dan -- Please note my new shipping address. -- Daniel Kavanagh Phone (850)443-3284 Organic Engines http://www.organicengines.com 1888 Mills St., [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32310 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1452 - Release Date: 5/17/2008 6:26 PM - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Axis Interface Startup Behavior
Ok - what am I missing - how do I force the Axis window to start MAXIMIZED when I click on the icon created by stepconf when I started my base config file? There's got to be something - just not familiar enough with X to figure it out - my Linux knowledge is based more in the command line environment. In MicroSuck I could solve it easily so I know I must be missing something because Linux is so broadly configurable. Thanks for any replies. Greg Michalski SiegX2 Stepper Configuration - EMC2 2.2.5 - X Y Complete - Starting Z mechanical conversion design - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Axis Interface Startup Behavior
Thanks Alex! You guys are quick AND thorough. I love this list. Now I just need to get my LAN cabling out to the garage so I can access the internet Thanks again to everyone who contributes - hopefully someday I'll be knowledgeable enough to play the mentor part instead of the mentee :) - Original Message - From: Alex Joni [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Axis Interface Startup Behavior Check this out: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/2385 Regards, Alex On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 10:33 -0400, Greg Michalski wrote: Ok - what am I missing - how do I force the Axis window to start MAXIMIZED when I click on the icon created by stepconf when I started my base config file? There's got to be something - just not familiar enough with X to figure it out - my Linux knowledge is based more in the command line environment. In MicroSuck I could solve it easily so I know I must be missing something because Linux is so broadly configurable. Thanks for any replies. Greg Michalski SiegX2 Stepper Configuration - EMC2 2.2.5 - X Y Complete - Starting Z mechanical conversion design - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Axis Interface Startup Behavior
Thanks Jeff - I see it's the same info as Alex posted a bit earlier - though you point out that I missed it in the wiki :( my search foo seems to be faltering of late... Thanks. Greg Michalski - Original Message - From: Jeff Epler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Axis Interface Startup Behavior On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:33:20AM -0400, Greg Michalski wrote: Ok - what am I missing - how do I force the Axis window to start MAXIMIZED This may help you: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?To_Make_The_AXIS_Screen_As_Large_As_Possible Jeff - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
I'd second that - I can't justify time off from real income for what is for now a hobby, if the proceeds from a sale of DVDs (even if just unedited off the cuff stuff) went to the developement team as donations I'd step up. Even setting up a cam and recording each of the sessions would be invaluable to us who can't attend. I'd also be willing to offer my time to dupe masters for said effort. Greg - Original Message - From: Patrick Ferrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest Hi all, Unfortunately, giving final exams trumps EMC Fest for me this year, as it will in forseeable years unless the dates change. Bummer. I don't know about anyone else, but I would love (read: possibly even pay for!) a dvd of someone just following Ray, John, Jon, Steve, or any of you other EMC heavy hitters around the Fest. OK, that might not be the best way to put it (!) - of course what I mean is that I would find it extremely cool to see what other people's EMC'd hardware looks like, Mazak or desktop or anywhere in between. I guess what I'm getting at is that it wouldn't necessarily have to be professionally edited to be valuable- so I hope somebody with a decent camcorder would consider deagging it along and recording parts of the Fest. thanks, Pat Patrick Ferrick Town of Webb School Main Street Old Forge, NY 13420 (315) 369-3222 (315) 369-6216 - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.15/1426 - Release Date: 5/10/2008 11:12 AM - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Watchdogs
Here is what I breadboarded that seems to work. http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/watchdog-1b.png That looks nice and simple. If I have troubles with what I've got on hand (the CNC4PC charge pump board) I might try your circuit out. (So if you improve it please feel free to post :) ) Are you running that directly off a parallel port pin or is it buffered/opto-isolated? Regarding the frequency - yes, the period depends on the thread speed. It toggles the output each time it runs, so a 1KHz run rate = 500Hz out. So in order to get my CNC4PC charge pump board to work correctly (it relies on a 12.5kHz constant signal) I am going to need to create it's own thread in addition to the servo thread and the base thread? I am thinking this is possible to do, are there any negatives to creating a third thread? I'm still assembling my control enclosure so I can't fire things up to experiment, the backplane isn't quite ready to mount the MOBO yet as I'm still drilling tapping to mount some parts. Would help if my ebay score of contactors showed up...I'd get more motivation to get it done. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC2 Charge Pump
The manual(s) seem to be lacking on charge pump operation and this being my
first foray into the world of CNC I have a couple questions:
1. Does the charge pump run non stop from the time you open EMC till you
close it (or it crashes) or does it stop on E-Stop condition?
2. To add it to my setup do I need to add anything other than the following
4 lines to my machines .hal file:
loadrt charge_pump
net charge-pump = charge.pump-out
addf charge-pump base-thread
net charge-pump = parport.0.pin-xx-out
My intention is to have the charge pump wait for EMC to be running then
close a contactor supplying the stepper powersupply and the mill control
circuitry. That allows me a single power button (the CPU) as opposed to 2 or
3 and guarantees that only when EMC is control can anything happen and no
sequencing issues (do this then that, then this - ie human error). I may
even add a relay to drop the panel power switch out once the charge pump
engages so that I can't accidentally bump it and upset the OS at all. But I
don't want the mill and power supply to be shutdown completely with the
activation of an E-Stop or Machine Power Off. I only want E-stop to
disable the amplifier enable and the spindle enable, not drop the charge
pump too. So in short - I want the Charge Pump running the moment EMC2
successfully loads, till the moment it closes (purposefully or otherwise).
Am I correct or am I a resident of left field? I am designing my enclosure
right now and don't have a spare mobo available to temporarily fire up EMC2
and see what happens until I finish the enclosure setup, which will kind of
be determined by the functionality of the charge pump...catch 22 anyone?
The Charge Pump component from the CVS repository (GNU GPL truncated for
space) is:
// This is a 'charge-pump' component for EMC2 HAL
// Copyright 2006 Jeff Epler
component charge_pump Create a square-wave for the 'charge pump' input of
some controller boards;
option singleton yes;
pin out bit out Square wave if 'enable' is TRUE or unconnected, low if
'enable' is FALSE;
pin in bit enable = TRUE If FALSE, forces 'out' to be low;
function _ nofp Toggle the output bit (if enabled);
license GPL;
;;
FUNCTION(_) {
if ( enable ) {
out = !out;
} else {
out = 0;
}
}
Not being that well versed in coding (been a very long time) I'm confused.
Do I need to somehow send an enable the charge pump - and how do I go about
doing that automatically as I verbosely stated above?
Thanks.
Greg
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