Re: [Evangelism] Bad result for Plone at Europython

[Roberto Allende]

El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 09:54 +0100, Matt Hamilton escribió:
> On 20 Apr 2011, at 08:24, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
> 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > On 20.04.11 09:19, Maurizio Delmonte wrote:
> > ears
> >> 
> >> Also, I register a very low pull on pylons + pyramid (just 127 of
> > 158), so,
> >> what kind of people has voted this set of sessions?
> > 
> > Hard to say, but I saw some tweets and facebook entries with "please
> > vote for my talk" though not for the Plone talk.
> > 
> > If there is no interest in Plone in the Python Community, then there is
> > also not much interest in the Europython in the Plone Community. Maybe
> > the drawback of having its own conference?
> 
> This is an interesting thought. I personally have submitted talks to 
> Europython the past few years, and either myself or colleagues have done 
> Plone talks there. This year I'm going to Plone Conf in San Francisco, Plone 
> Open Gardens in Sorrento, and the Plone Symposium East in the US. I didn't 
> even have time to *think* about Europython... to be honest it was only two or 
> three weeks ago I found out where it was even being held.
> 
> Historically Plone has had poor reception at Europython. I think this is 
> mainly because it is not the 'cool new thing'. I mean, it is a bit boring 
> really... we have been around a while, we have solved all the hard problems, 
> we have a great community and we did NoSQL 10 years ago. The Plone community 
> just get on and do things. An interesting example is that two years ago there 
> were *loads* of talks about Django on the agenda. The following year, just 
> one. I guess it was the new big thing then I guess people realised it wasn't 
> that exciting, or that it didn't solve the problems they wanted to and was 
> over-hyped. This year there are a few, but pretty much all are of something 
> called GeoDjango, which I guess is to do with GIS.
> 
> Remember we used to have a *whole track* dedicated to Zope at Europython in 
> the old days, then it became a 'web frameworks' track and then it disappeared 
> completely. 
> 
> I think if we want to get some more exposure at Europython then maybe we need 
> to be extolling the virtues of some of the technology we have that is not 
> just Plone specific, e.g. Diazo, Transmogrifier, buildout, etc.
> 
> *If* I go to Europython this year, and hoping to do the Lightning talk that I 
> didn't get to do last year, which was 'From python to Plone in 3 minutes' in 
> which I will do a live demo of going from a plain python 2.6 install to Plone 
> 4 up and running in 3 minutes. Just to show how easy it is to get into Plone. 
> I still think a lot of people are wary of Zope/Plone as it still has a bad 
> reputation from before when it was a big monolithic thing you had to swallow 
> whole. I'm hoping that Pyramid goes some way to helping alleviate these fears 
> as it is taking a lot of the technology we know and trust and putting it in 
> front of a new audience.
> 
> -Matt
> 

Indeed, great mail Matt.

I've a similar feeling on other free software conventions and sometimes
i think that, as a floss project evolves and matures it has to move from
python/floss conventions to business one or those oriented to simply
mortals and not for geek.

Just a quick thought.

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Re: [Evangelism] WPD 2011 date

[Roberto Allende]

El mar, 30-11-2010 a las 22:11 -0200, André Nogueira escribió:


> Who is the "owner" of @worldploneday? we need to do some updates there.
> I found some profiles and fan page at facebook. Any of these are oficial?
> http://www.facebook.com/wpdfans
> http://www.facebook.com/worldploneday
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=61713927310
> 

I think i've the access to all these accounts, same twitter and perhaps
identica. I can send these by private.

Do you have rights at http://plone.org/events/wpd ?

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[Evangelism] Announcing the new WPD Champion

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

I'm glad to announce André Nogueira is the new World Plone Day
champion. 

André Nogueira is from Brazil and has a long experience and commitment
with Plone and Python. 

You can meet and know more about him at:

Plone: http://plone.org/author/andren
Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/andren
Twitter: @agnogueira
Personal blog: http://www.andrenogueira.com.br

André will be in charge and he'll start to do all the necessary to make
WPD 2011 happen. 

Congratulations and happy WPD!.

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[Evangelism] WPD Champion Call new deadline

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

The call to be the next WPD Champion is still open:
http://robertoallende.com/en/world-plone-day-2011-call-for-champion

November 5th is the new deadline to submit your proposal.

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[Evangelism] WPD2011 Call for Champion reminder

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Hello

You have just 6 days to apply for the WPD 2011 Champion call:
http://robertoallende.com/en/world-plone-day-2011-call-for-champion

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[Evangelism] World Plone Day 2011 Call for Champion

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Would you like to be the champion of one of the most exciting events
oriented to promote Plone Worldwide ?. Do you enjoy to think global and
act local ?, here's your call.

Read more:
http://robertoallende.com/en/world-plone-day-2011-call-for-champion

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Re: [Evangelism] Early setting up an Collaboration Environment for Plone Marketing prior to Marketing Sprints (Penn State and Sorrento)

[Roberto Allende]

Stroß-Radschinski Armin C. wrote:
> Hi evangelists list,
> unfortunately I cannot join at sorrento nor at Penn State personally  
> to the marketing activities.
> 
> I would be pleased to join remote to take things further.
> 

Hello

Thank you a lot to sending your thoughts about improving marketing and
evangelism.

Certainly there is a lot stuff to do on these topic and every new idea
or initiative helps a lot.

 From my personal point of view, i believe Plone is in good shape 
because a Marketing Plan is being executed. Mark Corum is making an 
awesome job
defining and leading it and we've to be a little bit patient because it
is a process and as every process, it takes time and a lot of effort.
The good news is many points you mention are being on included or 
planned already.

Regarding some of your points in particular. Afaik marketing mailing 
list is not working anymore, we're using evangelism instead. Regarding 
poor examples, i think it is a good idea to identify places like you did 
and we should just do them, so if you know any other one or need help 
for the particular case you mention, just let us know.

It is a pity you can't come to Sorrento nor Penn, there will be
good opportunities to work on these topics. Anyway, I not going neither 
because i live too far away, but after wpd i'm focusing on 
local/regional promotion organizing a Plone Symposium on November, btw 
you're invited to come: 
http://plone.org/events/community/plone-south-america-2010 :)

Be prepared, I'm sure there's going to be plenty of opportunities to
contribute on this area in short term. Just keep in touch!

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[Evangelism] Let's share photos

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

As far we're getting updates, it seems wpd2010 was a completely success.
  Congratulations all the Plone Community, We rock! :)

Right now it is very important to share photos and know how was the
event in all the hosts. As always we're uploading pictures to flickr,
remember to tag the pictures as wpd2010

In fact there some already, just to start:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/quintagroup/4562278801/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/4562652313/

More pictures at http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/wpd2010/

Btw Germany's job is awesome, I love how people promoted all the cities
together. Great job guys!

Lastly, I'd like to ask you send data with number of attendees,
activities etc. We're using a google spreadsheet to recover some. Please
fill add a row for each city/host at 
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AjB6ixF2SsaScHktWlJpYnBXTVpYTWdJOVAtWFh3ZWc&hl=en

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Re: [Evangelism] Giveaways for upcoming World Plone Day 2010

[Roberto Allende]

Tim Knapp wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just to reiterate an earlier email I sent to the mailing list that the
> first 24 registered WPD events on plone.org get 3x giveaway eBooks
> courtesy of O'Reilly. The first 24 registered (Plone can't lie ;) were:
> La Plata, Argentina
> Milan, Italy
> Naples, Italy
> Macerata, Italy
> Turin, Italy
> Leipzig, Germany
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Pau France
> Munich, Germany
> Berlin, Germany
> Ferrara, Italy
> Houston, Texas
> Malmö, Sweden - World Plone Day
> Chicago, Illinois (USA)
> Taipei, Taiwan
> Boston, Massachusets
> São Paulo, Brazil
> Bonn, Germany
> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
> Ulm, Germany
> Tokyo, Japan
> Los Angeles, California (USA)
> Rome, Italy
> Ticino World Plone Day
> 
> Congrats! If the hosts of these events haven't contacted me already re.
> how to go about getting these eBooks, please get in touch.
> 
> We've also got 4x PacktPub books as well as 9x Apress books to giveaway.
> I'll give these away to the first 13 respondents to this email.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
If i'm still on time, count with me :)

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[Evangelism] 8 Really Cool Things About Plone 4

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Two years and a half ago, Jon Stahl wrote a great post blog named "8 
Really Cool Things About Plone 3"[1]. There he wrote about new features 
coming with Plone 3.


Considering there are just two weeks for World Plone Day 2010 and Plone 
4 is going to be the star of the event, i would like to ask you what are 
the features or things you would add in the "8 Really Cool things about 
Plone 4" list.


You answer will help a lot making the great Plone 4 talk, every host 
*must* have :)


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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day 2010 'Tag'

[Roberto Allende]

ambrin wrote:

Rover,

I don't know if I should thank you or kick you :-P. Those are tough shoes to
fill. Would achieving such results be beneficial? None the less we can try
for fun. And you know me I am anything but aggressive =). 

Oh, sorry i was using the world in gaming sense: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggression_%28poker%29



In my opinion, Plone community is a small and tight-knit that has
experienced a slow and steady growth. It's about attraction rather than
promotion. 


In this context what would be the difference between promotion and 
attraction. For me it's not simple to divide attraction from promotion, 
because in order to attract, first you've to communicate or am i missing 
the point ?


Thanks for the feedback and support!

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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day 2010 'Tag'

[Roberto Allende]

Alexander Limi wrote:

Can we please flip the logo on the side back to a normal orientation?

The Plone logo looks all wrong from that angle. The existing WPD logo 
has a version that should fit in the margin anyway, so no need to flip 
it. :)




I did it :). Our new social media champion, Ambrin, fixed already: 
https://twitter.com/worldploneday


She started to tweet aggressively we want to reach new audiences and be 
on top of twitter home page as much as possible.


HELP RETWITTING IS VERY APPRECIATED :)

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[Evangelism] Share your WPD experience

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

In the 2009 WPD survey some people asked to foster experience sharing or 
ideas about how to do be a WPD local host. In order to do that I've been 
working on a small list of questions for former hosts. In this mail I'm 
sending these questions and i'd like to ask to former hosts to answer, 
publish on a blog or any other place and send the url to the list. If 
you don't have a blog, just simply send the answers here.


It only takes 5 minutes and it would be a great contribution to the 
event. You can read a sample on my blog: 
http://robertoallende.com/technology/events/wpd-2010-01


So, the questions are:

In which WPD event did you take part as a local host and what kind of 
activities did you do?

What strategy did you use to meet with people from these sectors?
How much effort is needed to be a WPD local host?
And what about the results?
In your experience, do you think you have a distinctive characteristic 
that may be of interest to the rest of the hosts?

What are your plans for wpd 2010?

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[Evangelism] WPD 2010 Logo

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

I refurbished the wpd logo in order to fulfill the use guidelines and 
the new version is available on svg format. You can download from


http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-2010-logo

Any comment or suggestion is very appreciated.

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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day Shirts!

[Roberto Allende]

JoAnna Springsteen wrote:
Six Feet Up is having a World Plone Day t-shirt printed that will be 
distributed at PyCon in 3 weeks. The Plone Foundation will reimburse 
people wearing the t-shirt at PyCon. To take advantage of this special 
operation, people need to order their shirt by the end of this 
*Thursday, February 4th* at:


http://www.sixfeetup.com/swag/world-plone-day-2010-shirt

We printed these last year as well and they were a huge hit. Get them 
while you can!


Wow, awesome. The t-shirt is on WPD main page also:

http://worldploneday.org

Don't forget to register your city also!

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[Evangelism] Re: WPD T-shirts

[Roberto Allende]

Roberto Allende wrote:

Hello

Last year, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker and people from SFU made t-shirts to 
promote WPD at Pycon and we would like the experience: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7329...@n04/3749599357/


It was: We would like to repeat the experience.

And i also add my +1 :)

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[Evangelism] WPD T-shirts

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Last year, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker and people from SFU made t-shirts to 
promote WPD at Pycon and we would like the experience: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7329...@n04/3749599357/


There's also a chance to do a bigger print in case there are people 
interested and if we can handle the logistics, send it to anyone 
interested on getting them.


Right now, we are planning to make a long sleeve t-shirt in a crimson 
color (brick red color) and we estimate about USD 20 each. Anyone 
interested, please answer this mail with an +1.


This mails doesn't imply any commitment, just asking for interests of 
getting a WPD T-SHIRT (wich everyone at pycon will talk about) assuming 
this conditions.


The idea is move according the answer we get.

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[Evangelism] Plone Screencasts

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Thanks to Quintagroup team, kudos for them!, I've been able to watch 
Plone Marketing OpenSpace session held few days ago in Budapest, during 
PloneConf2009.


During the session, some guys mention about Plone screencasts in 
different languages. So i'd like to invite to all of you who had 
produced and upload a video share the url, no matter the language, i 
think it would be great to have a Plone screencast collection.


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[Evangelism] Re: Software Freedom Day: let's promote Plone!

[Roberto Allende]

Nate Aune escribió:
i gave a short lightning talk about Deliverance at the Boston Software 
Freedom Day. anyone else get a chance to talk about Plone or related 
technologies?


Nate


I gave a talk about usability and accessibility in an university free 
software user group, who hosted the local edition.


The organizers where very kind and they scheduled the talk to close the 
event.


Since Plone follows usability and accessibility guidelines, I believe is 
a good topic to finish the talk introducing CMSs and Plone in particular.


At least, the feedback i got was very good.

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[Evangelism] Re: Announcing WPD 2010 Date

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

We have several ideas but made no decision yet: a free website for a 
NGO, for the municipality or a special focus as 'Intranets with Plone'.


Great idea!... i started to consider it seriously for our local edition. 
wpd2010 moves forward, great, great.


Another idea was to show the audience the way we develop and improve 
Plone with sprints and to have some kind of national or international 
sprint during the WPD over IRC while the sprinters sit in a 
neighboring room to the room where we held the talks. So we could show 
the audience how we work, how new users can join the community, how 
they can report a bug or make a feature request, we can give them a 
real open source experience. We could even make live transmissions 
from different locations via Skype to show the audience that Plone is 
used all over the world.


If i'm not wrong, last year Dylan Jay suggested something like that and 
i argued against this idea. After reading your mail and thinking about 
it again, i believe, i made a mistake.


World Plone Day is about promoting plone and as Jon Stahl told me once 
'We're all figuring it out [how to do it] as we go.'(*) so, if you 
believe that could work out, you should *Just do it*.


Organizing a sprint requires extra work, for example contacting core 
developers or convincing the plone-tuneup-dream-team joining us, 
managing tasks, code and i believe all these tasks are out of my 
possibilities, i believe we could start moving forward defining a 
champion for it.


>>
>> What do you think about this?

Yes, what do you think ? :D


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[Evangelism] Software Freedom Day: let's promote Plone!

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Saturday 19 September is the Software Freedom Day (SFD), a worldwide 
celebration of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS).


Probably is a little bit late, bit just in case you didn't know about 
it, there are more than 500 teams in more than 90 countries organizing a 
free software event.


This is a great opportunity to show your speaker skills and promote Plone.

Free Software convention usually give us a great opportunity to meet 
friends and promote our work.


If you're interested, check if there are a local event nearby and 
contact organizers: http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml


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[Evangelism] Announcing WPD 2010 Date

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Thanks to all the peope who filled the survey we can announce the date 
for 2010 edition:


April 28th 2010

With 94,4% of acceptance, it was the preferred date. Second one was 
April 21th 2010 with 86,1% of acceptance, although there were holidays 
in Brazil, a very active WPD country.


More about the results of wpd survey soon.

Thanks again and happy ploning!

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[Evangelism] WPD Survey

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Hello

The World Plone Day survey is online:

http://tinyurl.com/wpdsurvey

In 5 minutes you can help please help us to improve World Plone Day
(and choose the 2010 date :) )

Happy Ploning!

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[Evangelism] Re: Wpd 09 post event PR

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Jon Stahl escribió:

Haven't read it closely yet, but in my experience, there is very
little point in doing "post-event PR" on an event that happened 3
months ago.  No media will pick up on a story that isn't "news"
anymore.

:jon


Hello

Thank you very much for the feedback and this is a good point.

Considering we should announce the wpd 2010 what do you think if add 
there we add the evaluation ?.


During comming days, weekend mostly, i'm going to be finishing the a 
survey to get feedback and editing the news, if anyone is interested to 
join, feel free to send a mail.


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[Evangelism] Re: New date for WPD

[Roberto Allende]

Jan Ulrich Hasecke escribió:

We need the date for the wpd 2010. Any proposals?

juh



Jan

Thank you very much for asking. Alternatives are:

April 7th
April 14th
April 21th
April 28th

I'm working on a survey about WPD and the idea would be have the date as 
one of the questions.


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[Evangelism] Wpd 09 post event PR

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Thanks to the job done by Chiara Latini and Vicenzo Varone from 
Abstract, we've a WPD 2009 post-event Press Release.


Before publishing it, i would like to ask for feedback:
http://tinyurl.com/wpd09-pr

Any comment is very welcome.

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[Evangelism] WPDx2

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

I'm writing in order to move forward two issues of WPD. Then first one 
is the postmortem document, the second one is the 2010 edition date.


Postmortem document
I need help from one or more volunteers to write a news/press release of 
wpd2009. Based on the results and the last year one, it could be a very 
easy task to do for anyone who has good skills writing in english and it 
would be a huge contribution for the event. If you're interested just 
contact me.


WPD 2010 date
We need to define a date for WPD 2010 edition. Last year this discussion 
was long and it is difficult to reach consensus when we talk about a 
worldwide event, but probably we could start it getting answer from 2 
questions:


- Shall we keep april as the month for WPD ?
- Shall we keep doing it in a weekday as Wednesday ?

I suggest to start wpd2010 planning with these points, once defined we 
can move forward improving it and get into other important topics.


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[Evangelism] Re: [summary] "Gnome WGO site with Plone" project

[Roberto Allende]

Jens W. Klein escribió:

The project to implement www.gnome.org needs reanimation.

In my opinion tasks are:
1 form a new group of gnome+plone people driving this project to 
  success.
2 synchronize requirements with all participants 
3 update to Plone 3.2/3.3 (recent stable)

4 setup a public testing environment
5 make it work / fix bugs if any
6 polish content and visuals
7 setup live hosting
8 go-live
9 have a party ;-)

Methods/Tools to reach the goal;

* online coordination (mailinglists, probably IRC)
* wiki 
* bug tracker 
* sprint


I do believe this is a very great plan.


Sprint:
David Bain offered to organize a sprint at Jamaica. From my experience 
its a real good idea to have a sprint to push forward. This needs 
fundraising to pay travel- and other expenses. Who can organize 
fundraising?


Let's suppose we find someone to do the fundraising task :), which could 
be the date for the sprint ?


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[Evangelism] World Plone Day 2009 a success!

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Thanks all the people who contribute to make WPD 2009 a success!

The 2009 edition was a transitional one, because the move of date and 
even that we had an awesome number of hosts.


As we discuss in previous thread it is important to collect data, please 
fill the google spreadsheat with your numbers. Please, upload photos to 
flickr or whatever you use to share photos.


Please use the worldploneday2009 tag to publish your content on the web. 
And don't hesitate to share any suggestion or experience about wpd 2009 
here!


You rock people, thanks again for supporting WPD and Plone!

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[Evangelism] Re: WPD: chat:

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Graham Perrin escribió:
Are we using  irc://irc.freenode.net/#plone-evangelism #plone-evangelism 
again today?


Yes we are, you're welcome to join!

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[Evangelism] Re: Gnome Plone Project

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Jens W. Klein escribió:
Theres new discussion on GNOME web mailing list, 
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.web

about the the future process of the Gnome website.

In 2006 they started with Plone and the project never finished. The 
evaluation process and the message they choosed Plone is an often cited.


I think its important for us, the Plone-Community, to not have a message 
around about failure. Even if it wasnt a technical problem. 

If 5 people from the Plone-Community would help the Gnome folks its easy 
to get the technical part done. I'd be one of them.


Any opinions?



+10K :)

Are there a list of tickets ?, why don't we meet in the irc channel, so 
all the people interested can discuss how to contribute ?


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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day followup

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Mark A Corum escribió:

I'm interested in finding out if anyone is writing a news article as a
followup to World Plone Day to talk about what happened, where it took
place, and who was involved.

The debrief is a hugely important part of any event of significant
scope - particularly one that you want to repeat in the future.

Mark



Mark

I think this is a great idea.

Last year we used a google spreadsheet to collect data, there are people 
who started already to fill it: http://tinyurl.com/dx599f


Please fill the 2009 spreadsheet and once we've a good % of the hosts, 
we can use that info for the debrief. If you want to move forward, just 
do it!, create a page at plone marketing at openplans and send the url.


Thanks for the initiative and don't wait anything to move forward!

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[Evangelism] Re: Some World Plone Day suggestions

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André Nogueira escribió:

I have the image with the correct colors.
Who has permission to change the image in Plone.org?

We created a Google Map of the WPD events around the world.
Feel free to use in Plone.org or any local website.
http://tinyurl.com/dyobvh

[]s



Andre

Thanks a lot for the logo, it has been updated everywhere (plone.org and 
openplans). I also added your map to http://worldploneday.org as a 
portlet linking to maps.


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[Evangelism] WPD Press Relase

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

We have Press Release for WPD2009, complete version to be reused is 
available at:

http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-2009-press-release

And it was published also at plone.org:
http://plone.org/news/plone-plans-global-event-to-tout-a-new-way-of-creating-for-the-web

Kudos for Mark A Corum, Nate Aune, and Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker!

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[Evangelism] WPD at Facebook

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

We need a WPD EVENT or Group at Facebook

Any volunteer to set it up ?

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[Evangelism] WPD at Twitter

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Nate noticied there's a WPD account at twitter:
http://twitter.com/worldploneday

Who's running that ?, could be the logo be updated please ?

Once that's done we would link it from http://worldploneday.org

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[Evangelism] WPD Sprint at pycon

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Hello

We're going to be sprinting today and tomorrow at pycon. If you need any 
help or believe we should move forward anything, just join us at 
freenode, channel #plone-evangelism


We're going to be working mainly on the press release and the wpd 
website at plone.org.


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[Evangelism] plone users at pycon

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Hello

Just in case you didn't read at twitter: we meet sunday at 9.40 in front 
of the room E to take a picture with the WPD TShirt!


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[Evangelism] Re: Evangelism Sprint at PyCon

[Roberto Allende]

Nate Aune escribió:

During next week's Pycon, many members of Plone evangelism group are
going to attend the event. So, we're going to be working on a
evangelism sprint and you are invited to join:
http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/evangelism


when i go to this URL, i get a 404 error.
 

Fixed:
http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/evangelism/


There's also a Zope & friends sprint, that could be nice to support:
http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/zope/


yes, i would like to participate in this sprint, if nothing else to be 
in the same room as all the Zope gods.




People from the organization are suggestin to do a BoF. I'll keep the 
sprint but that's a good idea i think.


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[Evangelism] Evangelism Sprint at PyCon

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Hello

During next week's Pycon, many members of Plone evangelism group are 
going to attend the event. So, we're going to be working on a evangelism 
sprint and you are invited to join: 
http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/evangelism


There's also a Zope & friends sprint, that could be nice to support:
http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/zope/

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[Evangelism] habemus flier

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Andre Nogueira and the people from Simples Consultoria updated the flier 
 for the wpd 2009 edition, you can download the pdf and ai version from:


http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-2009-logo-and-flier

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[Evangelism] promoting WPD

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

I'm working with a local government to organize our local WPD. They've 
experts on communication stuff and they asked me if we've an alternative 
name to promote WPD. The point they mention is that for someone who has 
not knowledge about what Plone is, a World Plone Day could have no sense.


By the other hand, i've seen a scrum event called Agile instead of Scrum.

Then... considering what the communication people say, do you think that 
if we use Content Management Event or Day, instead of Plone could be 
better in terms of communication ?.


Do you have any other suggestion instead ?, i repeat, the goal is to use 
a title that someone who doesn't know what Plone is, can get an idea 
about what the event is.


I'm asking and considering this to make the experiment at a local level. 
This is not a proposal to change the name.


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[Evangelism] Re: Today's New York Times

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Jon Stahl escribió:
I guarantee you this wasn't a republished press release.  Some NY-based Drupal member made a personal connection to the NYTimes reporter and successfully "pitched" the story.  


I'm not opposed to us doing more/ better press releases, but press releases 
alone will not be sufficient.  We need to identify and build relationships with 
specific individuals in the media.


:jon


I totally agree with you Jon. In our case we got WPD 2008 published in 3 
or 4 medias in Argentina. From that number, the half were published 
through journalist we met before WPD. The other half were people who met 
 previous WPD and we used WPD as an excuse to establish relationship 
with them and of course, we keep in touch. That's one of the reason on a 
event like WPD, you've an excuse to meet new people, among other things.


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[Evangelism] Re: Today's New York Times

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Karl Horak escribió:

I see that the NYT has a piece on the Polytechnic University of New York
University's  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/02/nyregion/02open.html Drupal
Camp  today.  It carries a broader message of open source acceptance--worth
a read.  


It points out that other CMS are succeeding in getting their press releases
out to the mainstream media.  This is something I believe the Plone
community could do better at.  Certainly conference, symposia, and even
local Plone events should be preceded by press release(s) to the appropriate
channels.  


-- Karl


+1

In fact there's a Plone event very soon called World Plone Day wich 
needs a good Press Release, i believe you could be a great Press Release
Champion. Wich means to move forward the press release writing and then 
send it to the appropriate channels.


If you are interested just let me know and move forward!.

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[Evangelism] wpd chat

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Last tuesday we met to chat about wpd 2009. The log is available at 
openplans: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-chats-logs


And i wrote a brief summary available at
http://robertoallende.com

The meeting was very interesting and I'd like to ask you if you are 
interested to continue meeting on irc or phone to talk about wpd 2009, 
also ask about the topics you would like to discuss there.


So, any suggestion or comment is very welcome.

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[Evangelism] WPD chat#1

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

It would be nice if we meet on January 27th tuesday at 12pm (Timezone: 
Pacific Time) in order to talk about:


- WPD 2008 post morten
- WPD 2009 global organization

The talk is #plone-evangelism at irc.freenode.net. The schedulle is a 
draft, we can discuss it during this week.


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[Evangelism] Re: WPD 2009 Dates

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Donna Snow escribió:

Hi Roberto,

I'm in working on my training class event for plone.org 
, do you want me to add the WPD 2009 info??


Donna



sure, we have http://plone.org/events/wpd/wpd-2009

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[Evangelism] Re: WPD 2009 Dates

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Roberto Allende escribió:



April 22nd, Wednesday



Great!, we've a date for WPD2009. As soon we have the improved and 
upgraded plone.org we'll make the announcement.


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[Evangelism] WPD 2009 Dates

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Hello

Thanks again for the very valuable feedback given. To find a good date 
is not being easy and even more if we want to choose a good one. Since 
WPD involves to much people and places, i think it is very important to 
pay attention on the conflicts to foster many places as possible in 
order to make wpd stronger as possible.


So. We made very good progress i just ask for a little of patience, we 
are almost there :).


Instead of looking the most popular date (+1), i'd like to suggest to 
look for the less conflictive one (-1).


So, the last date suggested and until now it doesn't seems to have 
conflicts is nate's:


April 22nd, Wednesday

Does anyone has an issue or problem with that date ? If yes, please justify.

Let's give 5 days, up to sunday to hear about it.

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[Evangelism] Re: April 26, 2009 WPD ??

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Donna Snow escribió:
I still think April 29,2009 is a good date (sorry for original mix-up).  
So what do you say? 04/29/09 (Wednesday) ?? Or 05/01/09 (Friday)??


Donna



04/29/09 (Wednesday)

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[Evangelism] Re: April 26, 2009 WPD ??

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Donna Snow escribió:
OK guys I did a little digging and it looks like the May 27th date 
conflicts with Penn State's Symposium


http://weblion.psu.edu/events/plone-symposium-east-2009

So how about we vote on the proposed April 28,2009??

So if you agree on April 28, 2009 (a Wednesday) then please respond to 
this thread with a +1




Since there are people who prefer Friday, we could think in a World 
Plone Week instead of a Day, that would give freedom to every host to 
choose its date according to local preferences, target and so on.


Regarding your proposal and assuming there are no issue with the week 
approach, there's a national day in Argentina during that dates 
unfortunately, so i would prefer the previous one, April 20th to 26th.


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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day 2009

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Donna Snow escribió:
Looking at the calendar it looks like Memorial day is May 25th so I 
don't recommend doing this on the 22nd as many people will take the 
Friday off prior to Memorial day weekend. At least around here people 
start heading out in boats and camping, etc.


That leaves us May 15 and May 29th - I think May 29th is a Jewish 
holiday? Can someone confirm? I'm assuming we want to stick with Friday 
(though Wednesday might be better as it is mid-week)


Donna M Snow



Thank you Donna, Chriss and all who gave very valuable feedback.

If there are enough consensus we could do it may 27th (Wednesday).
Are there any issue with that date ?

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[Evangelism] World Plone Day 2009

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Although we are doing the wpd2008 postmorten, we can start to talk about 
date for wpd2009.


I believe it is a good idea to keep it one month after PC, but before
december. So, i'd like to propose Friday November 27th as the date for
WPD 2009.

Any comment or suggestion is very welcome.

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[Evangelism] Re: Postmortem for WPD

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Donna Snow escribió:
Do we want to schedule a chat session for figuring out what we can do 
differently for next year?




Great idea. Why don't we meet at #plone-evangelism, january 8th 2009 to 
talk about it.


In this meeting we should talk about what and how do we write
http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/postmortem-for-wpd-2008
(there are some suggestions already)

In the meantime, it would be awesome if we collect urls from the wpd 
hosts. For that, i suggest using del.icio.us, for example:


http://delicious.com/r0ver/worldploneday2008

The tags i'm using are, everything related with wpd2008 have this tags:
plone
worldploneday2008

and depending the case i also add:
wpd2008blog
wpd2008buzz
wpd2008site

If you consider it is a good idea, it would be great if you use these 
tags, so we can filter quiclky them.


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[Evangelism] Re: Linux New Media

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Jan Ulrich Hasecke escribió:



Yes, ok, but…

ezPublish is very active at fairs and conferences at least in Germany 
like "Open Source Meets Business"


http://www.heise.de/events/2008/open_source_meets_business/partner/

juh



Plone do that globally: http://www.plone.org/wpd
and of course in Germany (thanks to the great job of DZUG): 
http://www.worldploneday.de/


:)

Anyway, there are many things to improve and you're very welcome to 
share ideas and/or work on them.


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[Evangelism] Re: Linux New Media

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Jan Ulrich Hasecke escribió:

:-(
http://www.pr-inside.com/linux-new-media-chooses-the-ez-r967613.htm



http://www.google.com/trends?q=eZ+Publish%2C+plone
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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day 2008

[Roberto Allende]

Nate Aune escribió:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Karl Horak 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


 >From the results piling in at
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweg&hl=en
,
it
looks like 835 attendees were reported at 33 venues.  Extrapolating
to the
60 pre-registered venues, we may have had over 1500 attendees
world-wide.
Brasilia, Brazil is still top of the chart with 128 attendees.


I'll be sending out an email to all the WPD organizers who have not yet 
filled out the form 
at http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweg


For future WPD data collection, we might want to provide a form similar 
to what was requested after the Software Freedom Day event.

http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/event_report.html


Great. I just updated the argentinian ones.

We could also make a "planet" page that aggregates all blog posts about 
the WPD. I think someone already tried to make something like this with 
Yahoo Pipes.
See the Software Freedom Day planet 
page: http://planet.softwarefreedomday.org/


Software Freedom Day is a very good model to follow, they've a couple of 
years of experience.


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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day 2008

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Xavier Heymans wrote:

Hi,

Any plan for a press release to make post event promotion?

Could be interesting if we have estimate about the number of events, 
attendies, talks, ...


Xavier


We're just on it. That's the feedback for.

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[Evangelism] World Plone Day 2008

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Hello

** Thanks to all the people who supported World Plone Day ***

It was a great success, i'm deeply proud of being member of such awesome 
community.


Spread WPD!
Please, publish photos about your local WPD, we're using 
worldploneday2008 tag in Flickr and there are more than 250 photos:

http://flickr.com/photos/tags/worldploneday2008

Evaluation
Right now we're starting to contact all the host to get feedback, if you 
wrote and published them already better!. Otherwise, you'll get a mail 
in few days.


Short comment
If we see google trends:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=plone%2C+zope
can we say ploneconf + book releases + wpd are a good combination ? :D
(check the graph in the right)

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[Evangelism] Re: Suggestion for next years World Plone Day logo

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Michael Dunstan wrote:

Hello,

I quite like the World Plone Day logo.

But I think it could be made a little bit stronger for next year. I
found that the text "Plone" was a bit too hard to read in some
situations. Particualry in the tee-shirt prints. Attached is a low
quality photo of NZ tee-shirt. To be fair - in real life "Plone" is a
little bit easier to read on the tee-shirts. (That's Chris Chambers
who organised the of the Auckland event modeling the NZ tee-shirt.)

I suggest that the whole WPD logo should be just one colour way.
(Perhaps "world" and "day" could be just outline text. Leaving "Plone"
with focus as solid text.)

Or at least the text "Plone" should be in the same colour as the Plone logo.



Michael

Thanks a lot for the feedback!. Yes, limi told us that few weeks before 
the wpd 2008. We really tried to do it but we hadn't been able, just 
because lack of time.


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[Evangelism] Re: Lessons learned from the first World Plone Day

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Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:

Hi all,

the World Plone Day was great fun and a fairly good success given that 
it was the first WPD ever and that we started very late to promote it.


So I think we will have a World Plone Day next year.

 From the lessons we've learned we should discuss improvements for the 
next years WPD.


hello Jan, thank you very much for supporting wpd and your feedback!, 
you guys made an awesome job in Germany!



Here are my proposals.

1. True international homepage

We need to have a multilingual website called worldploneday.org, so that 
each national team can translate announcements and infos into their 
national language and refer to it in their national PR.
when we started the wpd i thought it could be a good idea to have a site 
for wpd, but as the organization moved forward i change my mind. There 
are good reasons to keep the global communication in plone.org:


1. All the effort of the wpd should be in the local events. Following 
this argument, if you need a site, you should create one for your 
country or city, and when you promote the wpd in your country, you 
should use your site. If you need 'global' elements, you can add a 
google map and stuff like this we made already. Doing smt like this, 
every host has the freedom to do what it considers necessary and we 
don't force to have the same content translated to all the languages. 
The people who attended the wpd in my country got informed through our 
user group site, not the global place... so it's more important to 
invest time on the local version rather the global one,


2. Effort and resources. The wpd 2008 page was very simple, and still it 
took me too much time. We should need more people to do a global site, 
hosting and so on. Until we don't have a matre event i wouldn't invest 
resources on it.


3. Bringing people to plone.org or your local site is good. I like the 
idea of having the global event page few clicks close to the download 
plone button, or even the local one (we used plone cono sur page to 
promote wpd in our region).  This is a good way to promote your local 
job, in our case, to promote our Plone user group.



2. Refining target group

We discovered that a great percentage of our participants were people 
who already heard of Plone before or even uses it already. So it is good 
to have a mixture of basic talks like »What Is Plone?« or »The Plone 
Community«, but you definitely need some presentations for an advanced 
audience, for people who already know Plone and its community.


WPD should be an event to meet new people. I would suggest refining the 
communication instead. In our country most of the attendees were new 
people. And the 'old' ones cames to meet the new people. How you promote 
the event locally will impact the people you bring.


There aren't any restriction here, if your local meeting is focused to 
members of the community, it is ok anyway.



3. More time to prepare the World Plone Day

The DZUG e.V. (German Zope User Group) is planning its annual schedule 
in late december or early january. In 2008 the WPD-idea came too late 
for us, so that we could not support our community in an optimal way. 
For our annual plan for 2009 it is crucial to know whether and when 
apporximately there will be a WPD in 2009.


I would propose to have a WPD not too late in the year, to avoid 
conflicts with the Plone Conference, but I am fine with a World Plone 
Day in next years november again.


i think wpd one month after the ploneconf is a good idea. So, when we 
know the ploneconf's date we use that date plus a month.



4. Give-aways! I know their were some, but we've got none. :-(


logistics were difficult. Probably we need more resources here.



5. More noise in the media and the web especially all these web 2.0 sites.


we need more help here. Gerry made a great job, but we should have more 
people assisting him.


Considering it was the first edition, i think it was a great event, so 
it is great you sent feedback because we need it to define the goals for 
wpd 2009. Also the numbers, if you can send us how many people attended 
in Germany i would thank you a lot!


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Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed

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Gerry Kirk escribió:
Ok thanks Christian for your suggestions. Both helpful for now and for 
establishing an ongoing effort to build an online community.


It is awesome! go, go, go!

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[Evangelism] Re: World Plone Day Press Release - Translations

[Roberto Allende]

Eleonora Borelli escribió:

Hello everyone,

there is an italian translation of the WPD press release available at
http://www.plone.it/partecipa/world-plone-day/world-plone-day-2008-comunicato-stampa

It is also listed with the spanish one below the press release
announcement (http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release).

Cheers,
Eleonora



Eleonora

Wonderful job!, thanks a lot for supporting World Plone Day and 
contributing with spreading the event!


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[Evangelism] Re: NZ Companies Office WPD Advertisement

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Tim Knapp escribió:

Hi,

Just so everyone knows - the NZ Companies office, as a sponsor of World
Plone Day, have put an advertisement[1] for WPD up on their website.

I'd like to express thanks for their support of this effort to market
Plone to the NZ public!

Thanks again,
Tim

[1] http://www.companies.govt.nz/cms


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[Evangelism] Re: WorldPloneDay-based theme

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Érico Andrei escribió:

Hello everyone,

 I just made available{1][2] the theme we developed to our 
hotsite[3] promoting World Plone Day here in Brazil.
 
 André Nogueira, our creative guru here at Simples Consultoria, and 
his team designed and implemented this theme in a few hours and they 
will host a workshop about Plone skinning on our local wpd edition.


 Is anyone else planing to have a similar workshop/presentation on 
other wpd editions?


Cheers,
Érico Andrei
Simples Consultoria

[1] http://plone.org/products/beyondskins-ploneday.site/
[2] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/beyondskins.ploneday.site/
[3] http://www.simplesconsultoria.com.br/ploneday/


awesome! kudos for you guys!

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[Evangelism] Re: WPD Web2.0 Champion needed

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Gerry Kirk escribió:

Hi Roberto,

I can help with this. I will:


awesome, move forward, we follow you!
go, go, go!

anyone with experience with slashdot ?, it is very important to reach there.

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[Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

If you are not organizing any wpd event or just have some minutes and 
want to contribute with WPD, here is your chance:


We need *urgently* a WPD Web 2.0 spreader. The task consist on spreading 
wpd as much as possible in the www, that includes adding news in sites 
like digg, delicious, twitter, slashdot and many others. Once the news 
is added you have write here  asking the community join and support it.


The material is ready:
We have a press release: http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release
And the official WPD site is: http://plone.org/wpd

If you cannot do all the job, but you want to take care doing it in one 
site, just do it!


I strongly believe we've a very successful event already, we just need 
to let the world know!


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[Evangelism] Re: SPREAD WPD Press Release SPREAD

[Roberto Allende]

Roberto Allende escribió:

Xavier Heymans escribió:


On 25 Oct 2008, at 19:23, Roberto Allende wrote:


Hello

The World Plone Day has the first official Press Release published:
http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release


Excellent work, I'm getting ready to publish this article.

One detail, I do not understand the following:

In the press release:
"150 consulting companies in 43 countries"

On the home page of Plone.net
"281 Plone providers in 57 countries"


Thanks to SteveM is fixed now.
Thanks Xavier to let us know the error!

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[Evangelism] Re: SPREAD WPD Press Release SPREAD

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Xavier Heymans escribió:


On 25 Oct 2008, at 19:23, Roberto Allende wrote:


Hello

The World Plone Day has the first official Press Release published:
http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release


Excellent work, I'm getting ready to publish this article.

One detail, I do not understand the following:

In the press release:
"150 consulting companies in 43 countries"

On the home page of Plone.net
"281 Plone providers in 57 countries"



the press release is outdated.

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[Evangelism] Re: SPREAD WPD Press Release SPREAD

[Roberto Allende]

Jens W. Klein escribió:

Am Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:23:59 -0200 schrieb Roberto Allende:

The World Plone Day has the first official Press Release published:
http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release

We need as much help as we can getting it published.


Is it already translated to german? If yes: Please provide it. If no, 
I'll try to provide a translation of it.


-- Jens


Jens

As far as i know, there isn't a german translation, so you're very 
welcome to do it. I was able to do the Spanish translation and i'm going 
publish inside plone cono sur section 
(http://plone.org/countries/conosur) and after it, i'm going add a link 
as a comment in the original news.


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[Evangelism] Re: WPD charity site

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Dylan Jay escribió:
If organisations are looking for an idea to promote plone, I've 
suggested the following several users groups who are looking at doing this.


The idea is to pick a local charity and make them a website for free in 
24hours. Put out press releases about how they are getting an enterprise 
grade system thats easy to update etc, etc and makes it easy to create 
powerful sites.
It could be done in a public location so reporters and others can 
monitor progress and ask questions, and alsp perhaps streamed live on 
ustream.


Media stunts like this can be very effective for getting the word out 
that plone is good value, powerful and is very popular.


Dylan

Excelent idea. My suggestion: just do it. IMHO the best way to convince 
other people is focusing on achieving the goals locally. Once you have 
them, just share (communicate) your experience and results many people 
will follow.


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[Evangelism] SPREAD WPD Press Release SPREAD

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

The World Plone Day has the first official Press Release published:
http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release

We need as much help as we can getting it published.


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[Evangelism] Re: WPD on O'Reilly Radar!

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Nate Aune escribió:

Hi Tim,

This is great!  I'd like WPD to get even more press coverage. For 
example I have contacts at:

- eWeek
- IDG
- Boston Globe
- CMSWire
- Website Magazine

Is there anyone who knows about sending out press releases who wants to 
help compile a list of targets, so we can get the word out and try to 
get some press mentions?


thanks,
Nate



Nate

We're publishing the press release in few hours. We're just adding some 
corrections.


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[Evangelism] Plone replaces Sharepoint, Red Dot and Vignette

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Following Tim Knapp's mail, there are another news published:

Plone replaces Sharepoint, Red Dot and Vignette
http://tinyurl.com/plone-replaces

Is anyone adding these to plone.net ?

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[Evangelism] WPD Faq

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

We've a first draft for the WPD FAQ:

http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/wpd-faq

Any comment, suggestion is very welcome!

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[Evangelism] PloneConf Keynote video

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Does someone has the state of plone keynote recorded ?

Alan's talket about the WPD and it would be great to publish that part 
of the video. Could someone upload that part in youtube or somewhere 
else so we can link it ?.


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[Evangelism] Promoting WPD

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

As a great example how to promote the WPD locally i'd like to sahre how 
Enfold added a wpd banner in their home page:


http://www.enfoldsystems.com

Feel free to do the same! :D - and if you find any other example, feel 
free to share them here!.


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[Evangelism] Re: WPD Flier

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Roberto Allende escribió:

Hello

After the awesome job made with the logo by Meghan Murphy and Tim Knapp 
we're please to announce the first release of the flier:


http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-logo/wpd-flier.pdf
(also: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-logo/)



One more day to give feedback for the flier. If anyone doesn't say 
anything we send it to the printer :)


Right now we've just one change, the url to http://plone.org/wpd (thanks 
limi!).


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[Evangelism] WPD Press Release

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Thanks to the awesome job of Virginia Choy from pretaweb[1], we've a 
first press release for the WPD:


http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-press-release

The idea is to use and adapt this press release locally. But we could 
publish it in plone.org as a news, to do that i suggest to change [Fred, 
CEO of your company or person] by "the organizers" or "The evangelism 
group of the Plone Commuity", so every host can change (or not).


If anyone doesn't suggest a change in 2 days, we'll publish in Plone.org 
as a news.


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[Evangelism] Re: demo.plone.org

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Nate Aune escribió:

I'd like to explore the idea of creating a demo.plone.org site that
hosts the current released version of Plone, and would serve as a
place folks could go to try out Plone *before* downloading it. While
the installers make it very easy to try out Plone, some folks are
hesitant to install new software on their computer, and some IT depts
forbid it.



+1

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[Evangelism] WPD Flier

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

After the awesome job made with the logo by Meghan Murphy and Tim Knapp 
we're please to announce the first release of the flier:


http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-logo/wpd-flier.pdf
(also: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-logo/)

The flier is a design made by Andre Nogueira with the assistance of
Erico Andrei, from Simples Consultoria in Brasil.

We've an amazing first approach and we're looking for feedback!

Note the idea is to reuse and adapt it to every place, in the white 
space we would add the local info and organizer/sponsor.


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[Evangelism] Plone Cono Sur extends its cover area!

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

During lasts months, members of Plone Cono Sur had been able to travel
around South America and meet many people working with Plone and they
decided to join us. After talking with them and with the Plone Cono Sur
user group, we decided to extend our "cover area" and include all the
spanish speakers countries of South America. That's why, since now we
introduce ourselves as:

Plone Cono Sur: the Plone User Group of spanish speaker countries of
Southamerica.

Today Plone Cono Sur have 129 members in its mailing list, an irc
channel #plone-conosur and assist and organize promotional events in the
region.

We're very happy of the grow and we'll keep working to continue this path!.

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[Evangelism] Re: WPD - how to attend

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Chris Barnes escribió:
Being that I'm a newbie to plone (I have it "mostly" installed now, but 
still don't really understand how to configure or use it), the WPD 
conferences look interesting to me.


But nowhere on the wpd website do I see how to actually ATTEND any of 
these meetings, seminars, etc.  Is there a signup form?  Cost?




Hello Chris

Thank you very much for your interest! and welcome to the WPD 
experience!! :D


The official site is:
http://plone.org/events/wpd

and every host will publish its information in:
http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008

If you are in Texas, as your mail's says, you can assist to the WPD 
organized by Alan Runyan from Enfold. They didn't publish the 
information yet in plone.org's site but i believe they'll do it soon.


In openplans wiki you can see all the WPD hosts around the wolrd:
http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day

Regarding costs, and since it's a promotion activity i *believe* it 
should be free (no charge) but that's our criteria in Argentina and in 
Texas could be different, so, we should ask to the organizers.


I hope this mail help you, any other question, comment or suggestion, 
please don't hesitate to write us.


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[Evangelism] Re: Further call for help with WPD Logo

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Jon Stahl escribió:

Tim-

One thing to keep in mind is that Foundation explicitly discourages 
"logo derivatives" (e.g. modified versions of the Plone logo) -- our 
marketing experts tell us that logo derivatives, over time, diminish the 
impact, recognizability and value of the Plone brand identity. 
(http://plone.org/about/logo)


WPD is an awesome concept, and we all really appreciate the great work 
that you, Roberto, and all the WPD organizers are doing, but it should 
be promoted with either an unmodified version of the Plone logo (e.g. 
the logo plus "World Plone Day" text) or a logo that doesn't include 
Plone's logo at all.


I know this probably seems a bit counterintuitive (heck I find it a bit 
counterintuitive myself), but I have a lot of confidence in the wisdom 
of the folks who've advised on branding.




Thank you very much Jon, and thank you for the patience and to explain 
this.   Part of the WPD is to learn explicit and implicit conventions 
rules in the promotion of Plone, and the use of the logo is a very 
important one. If you find other point that wpd shouldn't follow, please 
don't hesitate to let us know.


Tim, i agree with Jon and i suggest to modify the proposal to follow 
http://plone.org/about/logo also, if there are any other proposal on the 
way, please keep in mind this too.


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[Evangelism] WPD Udpate!

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Some people were asking us about the activities you can organize during 
the WPD and Virginia Choy from Australia wrote a great approach for 
Activities Guidelines that you can read and improve on the projects wiki:


http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day

Also, we're sharing links of talks material/slides in the plone 
marketing space:

http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials

You're invited to share your talk slides urls and give 
feedback/suggestions about the activities guidelines.


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[Evangelism] Re: DrupalSouth event

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Tim Knapp escribió:

Hi guys,

Just to let you all know that unfortunately Drupal beat us[1] to the
punch in NZ. Will need to factor this in to our promotional
activities/approach here in NZ.

Thanks,
Tim

[1] http://drupalsouth.net.nz/


Heee... keep moving! don't let them beat you. And event thinking is 
Drupal, they should be allied.


I would try to go there, contact them, exchange information and make 
friends and invite them to the WPD, i believe we should cooperate with 
other CMSs comunities because the enemy is not there :D


Also, keep in mind that we're trying to reach desition makers in the WPD 
and a camp usually don't meet this public.


Did you try contacting the people in the government ?, problably you can 
organize something together: 
http://plone.org/news/new-zealand-government-releases-web-guidelines-plone-instance


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[Evangelism] WPD promotion

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Hello

We're starting to promote the WPD outside the Plone Community and thanks 
to the help and support of Steve McMahon, we have a folder to add event 
elements inside plone.org for each local city:


http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008

There each city should add an event with:

- The program
- The logistic
- Information about the organizer

Also we're asking to add in this folder, images with the logo of the 
local organizers  in order to add them in the main page: 
http://plone.org/events/wpd


Everyone in the project's wiki should receive a mail with futher 
instruction. If you have any question, suggestion or comment, please 
don't hesitate to write.


Right now, Virginia from Australia is working with press releases, as 
soon we've them we'll publish.


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[Evangelism] WPD: Kudos to Munich!

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

Congratulations to Munich!!! - the Zope User Group Munich is organizing 
a great event with more than 10 talks!!! and not only that, they created 
a web site for the event:


http://www.worldploneday.de

You can use translate google to read in your langauge:
http://tinyurl.com/wpd-de

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[Evangelism] Plone Evangelism

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

We created an irc channel called #plone-evangelism and we are meeting 
often to discuss World Plone Day and another Plone Promotional issues.


Join us, you'll be welcome!

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[Evangelism] WPD: 5 continents, 22 countries

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Hello

The World Plone Day reaches 5 continents and 22 countries and we go for 
more!


http://plone.org/news/the-world-plone-day-reaches-five-continets (*)

If you're not in the WPD list already join us and promote Plone in your 
town, promote Plone around the world. November 7th.


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[Evangelism] PWD - 30 cities!

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Hello

The World Plone Day has already 30 cities! 
http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day


We just need a talk in Africa to be in all the continents! - if you have 
a friend in Africa just let him/her know and of course, if you want to 
promote Plone in your community don't hesitate to join to the World 
Plone Day!.


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[Evangelism] WPD news in Plone.org

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

I had submited a news in plone.org inviting other community members join 
the initiative.


http://plone.org/news/join-the-world-plone-day

If you have any improvement just do it, otherwise feel free to publish it :D

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[Evangelism] WPD Champions

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

It would be great if more people join the World Plone Day organization, 
and there are some initiatives we could start:


+ World Plone Day Logo
Most of Plone events have great logos, just check NOLA, Plone Symposium 
East and PloneConf. The WPD logo will be printed all over the world, it 
is a great opportunity for astist to show their work. Then, it would be 
great to organize a WPD logo contest. And also would be great if we have 
a champion to organize it!. So, would you be interested to champion it ?


+ World Plone Day Flier
We need a flier!... of course the logo will impact on the flier desing, 
but we need to decide the flier content. Any volunteer to champion the 
flier ?


+ World Plone Day Poll
The WPD is a great opportunity to do a poll to the asistants and know 
about what people know, expectations, what are they looking for, and so 
on. To have success here we should be able to deal with big challenges, 
and it would be great to start discussions about what we should ask to 
the people interested in Plone and CMSs. Any volunteer to champion it ?


Don't be afraid to be a champion, remember that a champion is a person 
to move forward an issue (not necessarily doing everything). According 
to plone.org:


What does it mean to be a champion:

* A champion is the person responsible for moving a focus area 
forward, and reporting progress.


* Being a champion does *not* imply that he/she is going to do the 
actual work — it's about being the responsible person for that focus 
area. Of course, there are cases where the champion is in fact the 
person that implements the solution too.


source: http://plone.org/events/2008-summit/next-actions-and-champions

The World Plone Day needs your help, don't hesitate to join!

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[Evangelism] 10 cities in just 24 hours

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

If we continue at this rithm we'll reach other planets! :D

http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day

10 cities, 5 countries in 3 continents are already there!

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[Evangelism] World Plone Day

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

The plone world day is moving forward. If you are ineterested to 
participate (giving a Plone introductory talk in your community) add you 
 in the list please:


http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day

Also any help spreading the word is welcome!

Plone world day is a very simple activity with a huge impact.

Ideas and suggestions are welcome!

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[Evangelism] PloneDay: can we IRC chat on friday?

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

i'd like to suggest an irc meeting this Friday to speak about Plone Day.

Channel #plonemarketing
server irc.freenode.net

Some proposed times:

9am PDT / 12pm EDT / 5pm Paris
12pm PDT / 3pm EDT / 8pm Paris

Any other suggestion is very welcome.

The goal of the meeting is to do a brainstorming and speal about next 
steps to move the plone day forward.


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[Evangelism] Re: Plone Day

[Roberto Allende]

Francesco Ciriaci wrote:

Excellent idea!

Let's work on it :)

.francesco




Ok, 3 persons interested is enough to move forward :D -

We have to decide/suggest the date. According to previous experiences 
from other communities, we need at least 3 months to organize and get 
critical mass... that lead us to Jun/July but is summer in northern 
countries... then we have Plone Conference, so what about November 7th, 
it's about a month after the Conf, so everyone is back and we take the 
conf to promote and encourage other members to joint the event.


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[Evangelism] Plone Day

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

What if... we organize a Plone Day ? It's simple and could be very 
effective in terms of promotion and buzz: we decide a day and we foster 
to community members to organize and give (at least) a Plone 
introductory talk in his/her local community (or wherever is easiest for 
him/her).


Then we create a page listing all the places in the world where there 
will be a talk, we write a press release and we try to reach the medias 
promoting the event.


We can continue improving the idea, but before i would like to ask if 
you think it's a good idea and how many people here would be interested 
work on it.


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[Evangelism] Re: Road (idea) Map - Marketing analysis directed toward marketing goals achievement.

[Roberto Allende]

Enovant JPR wrote:
We have prepared a non-comprehensive analysis to outline goals and ideas 
for marketing development.


http://www.haritomedia.com/plone_marketing-1.6.pdf (please download, 
will be removed in two weeks)


Neither of us are qualified to comment on the section of item *2c. 
Usability (Developer)* and have left that section blank.




Wow, great job. I share many of the points you write there and i'd like 
to talk about some.


Even i think there's a strong technical background here, i assume most 
of the people here knows more or less what marketing involves, since the 
high % of entrepreneur plone community have. Anyway, just to sake of 
clarity i'd like to divide in two groups tasks involved in marketing:

1. Commercial (customer / market)
2. Technological

By commercial i mean customer needs, motivation, when, why and how will 
'buy' or not, product, price, promotion, market share, trends, and so on.


Technological
product definition, what the product does, how does it, usability, 
quality, performance, current and future features, and so on.


---

After reading your proposal and thinking about a marketing/envagelism 
group in Plone, i believe we shouldn't overlap with already existing 
groups. I mean:


* Technological issues: there were great and big discussions before, 
during and after Plone Summit. Also there're good blog posts about what 
plone should or shouldn't do[1][2], tickets and people working on it[3]. 
So, the best way to get involved in these discussions/decision should be 
join/contact these people.


* Plone.org and plone.net: same happens here, there are groups and 
people working already, again, the best way should join them.


* Commercial
Identify needs, motivation and the buying process: i don't find someting 
here (it's a question). How could we deal with this problem ?, would be 
people interested to work on it ?


Market share, trends and other metrics
It would be great to know more about these topics, we could discuss 
about market measures, are there something beyond trends.google in order 
to know what's happening out there ?, can we determine how big is the 
market, what's the place of plone in that market ?. I know researchs 
about it but have we got access ?, what do they say about Plone ?.


Promotion: plone.org/plone.net/user groups do a great job here, are 
there something else marketing group could do ? what about something 
like spreadfirefox (foster to documment plone promotion activities) ?, 
to document success histories ?, encourage companies to publish success 
histories, how ?


---

If we could agree on the actions to be done by marketing/evangelism 
group we could write the goal in these terms, for example "the goal is 
to promote plone and to research the plone and cms market". From my 
point of view it should be very concrete in order to identify and avoid 
overlapping.


Btw, the group could focus just on research/market diagnosis and trigger 
projects as could be a new user group or a spreadfirefox-like initiative 
wich should have their own life/issues, as most user groups and sites 
like plone.org / plone.net have.



Kind Regards
r.

1. http://limi.net/articles/18-things-i-wish-were-true-about-plone
2. http://martinaspeli.net/articles/pete-and-andy-try-plone-4
3. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/17544

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[Evangelism] scope and roadmap

[Roberto Allende]

Hello

I'm writting because i'd like to ask if there's a defined scope or goals 
for the marketing & evangelism group, also if there's a roadmap. Do 
these stuff exist ?, do you think it could had sense to have them ?.


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