Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Cephus is very much *not* just setting up straw men. He has been very active for many years on atheist chat groups, where one commonly sees *every single one* of the dumb behaviors he lists being demonstrated by idiotic Chrisschuns who descend on such groups to try to convert the heathens. *Out of context*, his article may seem to be a straw man argument, but if you had spent any time on such forums, you would know how spot-on his descriptions of common anti-atheist rhetoric are. As for the distinction between how a modern-day British person might feel about religion vs. how Americans might feel, there is a grain of truth in what you say, but only a grain. Modern-day British Catholics seem just as insane to me as Catholics in other parts of the world, for example. I think you're cherry-picking arguers for the existence of God to make it appear as if the ones you LIKE are more common than they are. I could do the same thing, quoting Christians I actually LIKE such as Bruce Cockburn or G.K. (Seriousness is not a virtue) Chesterton. But they're exceptions. You are not likely to find their equals among the many people trying to sell their God on the Internet. Almost by definition, anyone zealous enough to try to *convert* someone else to a belief in God has left reason and rationality behind and is working from a platform of elitism and emotion. (IMO, of course.) My idea of a *civilized* discussion about the existence of God would be as follows:- Person 1: I believe God exists.- Person 2: I believe that no such being as God exists.- Person 1: OK, nice talking to you.- Person 2: Yup. See you round. That's it. It's about BELIEF, so there is really nothing more to be said, or any point in trying. As for your speculations about some trying event in my past w.r.t. religion, Bzt, thanks for playing, but you're wrong. I was never raised religious, and never spent much time around anyone religious (other than TM Neo-Hindus). For that matter, I've never spent any time around atheists, either, because as I suggest above I don't see any point in arguing about something that is purely a matter of belief and that can never be resolved. What I'm on about is a set of very common behaviors one tends to see on the Internet among those who feel the need to push their God agendas on others. You are probably correct that when I rail against such people I may be ignoring the 1% (or fewer) believers who actually have some intelligence, but so be it. It's the 99% I'm talking about, and to. If you don't consider yourself part of them, just don't read my stuff. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... This Cephus is just setting up a straw man; then knocking him down and feeling pleased with himself. Just take a look at Richard Dawkins debating with the (former) Archbishop of Canterbury at Oxford University. You may or may not think that Dawkins has the better of Rowan Williams but Williams is clearly *not* stupid and doesn't employ any of the ten statements that Cephus castigates.One issue that strikes me about the difference between Barry and myself is that he's American; I'm English. And what kind of difference would that be? Well, in the USA, religion (including fundamentalist versions) is big - indeed it's big business. In the UK, religion is now marginal. It conjures up images of well-meaning but ineffectual Anglican vicars with little input into current societal changes. To me religion is harmless - rather sweet perhaps. To Barry the mention of religion triggers memories of some unresolved trauma from his childhood or adolescence. To Barry it's all about visceral emotion; to me it's all about sweet reason and nuanced reflection.Here's Dawkins/Williams in civilized debate . . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2f5TA2nCs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Oneof the reasons I speak in such a derogatory way about God-believershere is that I figure after centuries of them putting down non-believersall the time (not to mention killing them, burning them at the stake,etc.) they should get a taste of their own medicine. That, and the factthat I really DO consider many God-believers pretty much as stupid as Isay they are. :-) Butevery so often, it's probably good to present the point of view of a more balancedatheist who has more compassion for the idiots trying to shout him down than I have.Consider this my contribution to FFL in this respect... 10 Stupid Things Theists Say to Atheists October 9, 2013by Cephus Asatheists, we see this kind of thing all the time, really absurd thingsthat are said to us by theists in the midst of a debate or discussionthat leave us rolling our eyes. This really isn’t intended so
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Well said, Sal.
My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together
physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be
bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink
it, of course. :-)
But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was
missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not
many, and only for a second or two.
After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into
a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many
years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his
behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here.
I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's
irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an
opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean
endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability
to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's
like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's
his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service.
If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well
practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he
either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it.
After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's
been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess.
He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion
board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading
shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure.
Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked
boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a
point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't
interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time.
Every day.
Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick
pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a
discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and
alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not.
It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day.
Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've
got brand new tires.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience
for theists than I have...
On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyonelaughing at the same
joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, onthe subject of that joke. Think about
it. Yes, there issomething that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet.
For the record, this is payback for all theshit he has given me for the past
ten years. The tables areturned now, his turn to cry.
The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around theinternet - that's
his game.
Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's neveraccomplished a damn
thing, so far as I can tell.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,sharelong60@... wrote :
Steve, I don't mind when people confront turqone on one. But I really don't
like it when the piling onand ganging up happens. Something about that seems
veryunhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond
But they drink hard liquor and smoke bhong since these were supposedly used by Shiva, their patron god. Many do but that's mostly the drop outs, dressing the part but not taking the sadhana seriously. Does that remind you of anyone on this board ? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Nabs, I saw a similar documentary about sadhus in India. It's actually a very difficult life. They perform austerities and long fasts in order to be taken by their gurus as disciples. These austerities include living naked, smearing ash on their bodies and sleeping near cremation grounds. But they drink hard liquor and smoke bhong since these were supposedly used by Shiva, their patron god. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The ending part from the movie - Varanasi, India: Beyond that inspired me. I DO NOT OWN ANY COPYRIGHTS FOR THIS MOVIE This movie belongs ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk Preview by Yahoo
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Subject Line Rectification Re: FW: Latest, next week's November 30th eve
Dear FFL Moderators; could you do something about the people who jack threads and drive them off away here without changing the subject line? Like some severe discipline for people without subject-line discipline, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Today, a friend alerted me to a serious oil burning issue Subaru is having with their current engines, and the company is being a dick about it. With that going on and the closest dealer being in Cedar Rapids, I'm going to pass on the Subaru. I may just see what the local Ford/GM dealer has. That same friend just got a front wheel drive Ford Escape, and he loves it. Couldn't possibly be worse than my rebuilt, salvage title, 2003 Pontiac Vibe with its nifty, not yet recalled shrapnelizer airbag in the steering wheel. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Yup, my 16 year old Forester is doing fine in the monsoon we are enjoying though AWD can't do much about California drivers who can't drive even in dry weather. On 11/21/2014 07:53 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, Maharishi came to me and said that the utter beauty and dry pavement performance of the Mazda CX-5 does not compensate for an AWD system that will reluctantly send a little power to the rear wheels only after the front wheels have started spinning. Being in tune with Iowa's Laws of Nature will require the purchase of a Subaru. Jai Guru Dev! -
[FairfieldLife] Re: A complete list of Turquoiseb's supporters on Fairfieldlife
Dear Awoelflebater, It seems true that some of the negativity written here rises to the level of terrorism with intent. Delicate flower, Gird on thy Spiritual Armor and have shields up as you venture forth in FFL. Have a nice day, -Buck awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, I am perplexed when someone says they find [Turq's] perspectives interesting or thought provoking. It is a simple formula he uses here, over and over and over, again: 1. Take a conventional view. (ex: belief in God) 2. Simplify it, to the point of absurdity. (ex: God is an old man who tells us what to do) 3. Accuse forum members of being gullible idiots, and guilty of believing in the straw man just created. 4. Pontificate about why you are superior, because you don't believe in the straw man. Anyone impressed by this behavior, simply leaves me speechless. Good synopsis. Here is my problem. You try and engage and you get slapped around. You decide he is not anyone interested in engaging - he simply likes to do all of the above. So you ignore him but then he dominates the place with more and more outrageous fabrications, lies and just plain odious posts that are not only too many in number but so bloody repetitive. I don't mind disagreement and alternate viewpoints and additions to a conversation if someone could at least make it INTERESTING. But no, he just blathers on and on with the same old formula as you so clearly posted above. Then you get the bleeding heart who insists he is just a wounded bear and requires compassion despite the fact that all he does is abuse her and she takes it like that is going to heal him in some way. It really does give one pause and I ask myself every single day why I continue to log on here. So many good people have left for perfectly good reasons which include what I have just written about. But for now I remain for the occasional nugget of interest and because I genuinely like a few of you here and you bring reason and sanity back for short periods of time. I am now going back to try and ignore what is virtually unignorable - think of it not as compassion but as common sense and self preservation of my delicate mental state!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Are you drunk again this morning,, Barry? I have noticed you are practically an alcoholic at this point. Nobody develops a beer belly like yours, without seriously hitting the sauce. Anyway, I'll leave you to your boozy and lame jokes, though you may want to have your liver checked. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment
Yup, whence faced with all the ignorance and negativity around here things like this needs to be said periodically as good reminder of the truth of matters, Maharishi Said: “The Veda [Scripture] reveals the unchanging Unity of life which underlies the evident multiplicity of creation, for Reality is both manifest and unmanifest, and That alone is “I am That, thou art That, and all this is That is the Truth”; and this is the kernel of the Vedic teaching, which the Rishis extold as teaching “worthy of hearing, contemplating, and realizing” fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Perfectly expressed. Barry unwittingly solidifies his position of ignorance. He is being absolutely truthful here. He doesn't know the first thing about enlightenment, except for his lifetime total of three weeks of dirty (unstable) witnessing. Enlightenment will always remain in the fiction section of his library. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I agree. Just make sure that when it comes out it's stored in the Fiction section of the library. :-) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment A collection of Fleet's published FFL writings here about enlightenment would make a really fine anthology on the subject. -Buck in the Dome turquoiseb wrote : Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him. Since I've met canines who were more enlightened than Jim Flanegin, I'll pass, thanks. :-) :-) :-) Subject: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment I know he is enlightened because of his first person accounts. I can relate to what he is talking about by experience. He is very clear and accurate in his writings. You seem threatened by his writing. -Buck turquoiseb writes: The person WHO CANNOT PRODUCE A *SINGLE PERSON* WHO BELIEVES HE IS ENLIGHTENED somehow wants you to believe that I am *envious* of him for being enlightened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : That's pretty funny, Share. I imagine the exchange went something like this. Barry's FFL Secretary: Sir, I think you should see this. BW: What is it! Can't you see I'm busy updating my list of things I don't like, people I find stupid, and, of course, things I can berate believers about. BS: But sir, I think.. BW: Okay, what is it already! BS: Sir, it 's from Flannegan. he says, sir, that, .that, you're envious of his enlightenment. BW: What! Why didn't you tell me this before! What am I paying you for? Let me exit out of this list, page 4 and address this. And keep me informed of any other developments along these lines. I have a reputation to uphold! BS: Yes sir. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear FFL Person who has become turq's secretary...REALLY?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! I have to thank the person who just forwarded a quote from Jimbo The Faux Enlightened to me, cuz otherwise I wouldn't have seen it and laughed this hard. The quote was: Good example is Barry's naked and raw envy of my enlightened state. I really LOVE this, because it actually tops JohnR's ludicrous and clueless, Atheists are really angry at God quote. That one was laughable because he managed to convince himself that people who don't believe in a God are really angry at the being they don't believe exists. I foolishly thought that nothing could *possibly* be more stupid than that. But now comes Jimbo's quote, putting JohnR's in the shade. :-) The person WHO CANNOT PRODUCE A *SINGLE PERSON* WHO BELIEVES HE IS ENLIGHTENED somehow wants you to believe that I am *envious* of him for being enlightened. Did these people spend their time in meditation sniffing glue? What *happened* to their brains to make them this dense? I've honestly met more intelligent turnips. :-) :-) :-) Free clue, Mr. Enlightened Trailer Trash -- NO ONE believes you are enlightened. Thus NO ONE is in any way envious of your enlightened state. You're just demonstrating the extent of your narcissism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Subject Line Rectification Re: Disrespect and Suburu Engine Oil Problem
Dear FFL moderators; and I feel it is inappropriate and disrespectful to use 'Jai Guru Dev' here in relationship to one's Suburu engine oil level. There is something unkind towards some of us here in deploying that this way here. --Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear FFL Moderators; could you do something about the people who jack threads and drive them off away here without changing the subject line? Like some severe discipline for people without subject-line discipline, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Today, a friend alerted me to a serious oil burning issue Subaru is having with their current engines, and the company is being a dick about it. With that going on and the closest dealer being in Cedar Rapids, I'm going to pass on the Subaru. I may just see what the local Ford/GM dealer has. That same friend just got a front wheel drive Ford Escape, and he loves it. Couldn't possibly be worse than my rebuilt, salvage title, 2003 Pontiac Vibe with its nifty, not yet recalled shrapnelizer airbag in the steering wheel. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Yup, my 16 year old Forester is doing fine in the monsoon we are enjoying though AWD can't do much about California drivers who can't drive even in dry weather. On 11/21/2014 07:53 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, Maharishi came to me and said that the utter beauty and dry pavement performance of the Mazda CX-5 does not compensate for an AWD system that will reluctantly send a little power to the rear wheels only after the front wheels have started spinning. Being in tune with Iowa's Laws of Nature will require the purchase of a Subaru. Jai Guru Dev! -
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... [1 Attachment]
Here, let me rephrase that for you, Barry, you sick monkey... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turq one on one. But I really don't like it when the piling on and ganging up happens. Something about that seems very unhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
turq, huh?! How can Richard stalk and abuse you if you put his posts in a
Folder and instruct your Folder Secretary to not show them to you?! And fyi, I
would miss Richard if he wasn't here and I bet there are others who feel the
same. And I hope you can be more at peace with your emotions about Richard.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience
for theists than I have...
Well said, Sal.
My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together
physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be
bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink
it, of course. :-)
But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was
missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not
many, and only for a second or two.
After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into
a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many
years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his
behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here.
I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's
irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an
opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean
endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability
to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's
like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's
his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service.
If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well
practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he
either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it.
After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's
been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess.
He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion
board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading
shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure.
Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked
boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a
point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't
interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time.
Every day.
Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick
pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a
discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and
alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not.
It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day.
Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've
got brand new tires.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience
for theists than I have...
On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyonelaughing at the same
joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, onthe subject of that joke. Think about
it. Yes, there issomething that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet.
For the record, this is payback for all theshit he has given me for the past
ten years. The tables areturned now, his turn to cry.
The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around theinternet - that's
his game.
Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's neveraccomplished a damn
thing, so far as I can tell.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,sharelong60@... wrote :
Steve, I don't mind when people confront turqone on one. But I really don't
like it when the piling onand ganging up happens. Something about that seems
veryunhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
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No wonder the dude is so cranky...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
salyavin, the mysterious and fascinating thing for me is that each of us on FFL
is triggered by someone different, by different online behavior. I like Richard
a lot because I don't get any sort of snide or arrogant or mean vibe from
him. At all. And I enjoy something in all FFLers but one. So I think of him as
my shadow to work on. Anyway, it's all grist for the mill, it all can be used
to help us develop fully, yada yada. That's why I continue here. Go figger.
PS I admit it's still a bit weird for me when 2 people I really like, like you
and Richard, are at odds with each other. But I shall soldier on (-:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience
for theists than I have...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many
years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his
behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here.
I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's
irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an
opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean
endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability
to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's
like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's
his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service.
If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well
practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he
either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it.
After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's
been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess.
He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion
board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading
shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure.
Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked
boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a
point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't
interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time.
Every day.
Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick
pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a
discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and
alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not.
It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day.
Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've
got brand new tires.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience
for theists than I have...
On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyonelaughing at the same
joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, onthe subject of that joke. Think about
it. Yes, there issomething that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet.
For the record, this is payback for all theshit he has given me for the past
ten years. The tables areturned now, his turn to cry.
The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around theinternet - that's
his game.
Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's neveraccomplished a damn
thing, so far as I can tell.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,sharelong60@... wrote :
Steve, I don't mind when people confront turqone on one. But I really don't
like it when the piling onand ganging up happens. Something about that seems
veryunhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy's Pic for a Fine Leader
No, Context is often everything with the insinuations of someone selectively excerpting. MJ is being a jerk again trying to muck this up out of context in to some negativity as a denouncement of Maharishi. \ The possibilities are enormous if health ministries of some of these state run countries truly understood the science of the Unified Field and transcending meditation then world consciousness could be changed for the collective good right away. If Cuba for instance on sound scientific reason instituted a transcending meditation within its healthcare delivery system the United States should be in a significant meditation gap with Cuba's progressing in consciousness and health. Think of the possibilities. That is what Maharishi was doing thinking out loud about these systems. MJ is just mucking around taking things out of context for his own ignorant reasons of evil doing. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck mjackson74 wrote : Today, Maharishi University of Management celebrates the dawn of a New World Order of Peace, as demonstrated by the invincibility of President Fidel Castro of Cuba, the freedom of President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, the Divine Rulership of President Abdurrahman Wahid of Indonesia, and the casting off of corrupt democracy by President Robert Guei of the Ivory Coast. In Zimbabwe’s Succession Battle, Mugabe Pulls the Strings http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/world/africa/in-zimbabwe-a-clamber-to-become-mugabes-no-2.html?hpwrref=worldaction=clickpgtype=Homepagemodule=well-regionregion=bottom-wellWT.nav=bottom-well_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/world/africa/in-zimbabwe-a-clamber-to-become-mugabes-no-2.html?hpwrref=worldaction=clickpgtype=Homepagemodule=well-regionregion=bottom-wellWT.nav=bottom-well_r=0 In Zimbabwe’s Succession Battle, Mugabe Pulls the String... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/world/africa/in-zimbabwe-a-clamber-to-become-mugabes-no-2.html?hpwrref=worldaction=clickpgtype=Homepagemodule=well-regionregion=bottom-wellWT.nav=bottom-well_r=0 President Robert Mugabe is presiding over — and possibly choreographing — an increasingly fierce internal scramble for the rewards of high office. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/world/africa/in-zimbabwe-a-clamber-to-become-mugabes-no-2.html?hpwrref=worldaction=clickpgtype=Homepagemodule=well-regionregion=bottom-wellWT.nav=bottom-well_r=0 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
On 11/22/2014 1:52 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? /* / It has already been established that you fib a lot - you told a whopper about witnessing Rama levitate for REAL. It would probably be a good thing for you to just keep your big lie hole shut about anyone lying or being dumb. * */ */Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it?/* */ /* */Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology?/* */ /* */Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order?/* */ /* */If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because:/* */ /* */1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it,/* */ /* */2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, /* */ /* */3. You're just a dick, or/* */ /* */4. All of the above./* */ /* */The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-)/* *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! */Ahem. /* */ /* */See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619/**/, which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: /* *--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : * *Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk?* */ /* */ /* */I'll wait for your apology... :-)/* *From:* jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM lol. please rate and comment. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his choice of puppy chow), to our common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in an enlightened state is a subjective state that defies any material proof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to me what Barry meant when he posted this message below, because now I'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. /I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experiences had anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, I might interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn't mean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpret them differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they're attacking me, merely that they see things a different way, from another point of view. - /TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on this forum, except YOU. :-) :-) :-) The question (for you) is, WHY? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : */Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him. /* */ /* */Since I've met canines who were more enlightened than Jim Flanegin, I'll pass, thanks. :-) :-) :-)/* *From:* dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection || |||| Frank Caliendo bush collection lol. please rate and comment.|| | View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward thefollowing response (and his choice of puppy chow), toour common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in anenlightened state is a subjective state that defies any materialproof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to mewhat Barry meant when he posted this message below, because nowI'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experienceshad anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, Imight interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn'tmean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpretthem differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they'reattacking me, merely that they see things a different way, fromanother point of view. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on thisforum, except YOU. :-) :-) :-) The question (for you) is, WHY? ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@...wrote : Fine. If that's how low yourstandards are, then *you* can be envious ofhim. SinceI've met canines who were more enlightenedthan Jim Flanegin, I'll pass, thanks. :-) :-) :-) From:dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:01 PM Subject:[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment I know he is enlightened because of his first person accounts. I can relate to what he is talking about by experience. He is very clear and accurate in his writings. You seem threatened by his writing. -Buck turquoisebwrites: The person WHO CANNOTPRODUCE A *SINGLE PERSON* WHOBELIEVES HE IS ENLIGHTENEDsomehow wants you to believethat I am *envious* of him forbeing enlightened. ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,steve.sundur@... wrote : That'spretty funny, Share. I imagine theexchange went something likethis. Barry's FFLSecretary: Sir, I think youshould see this.
[FairfieldLife] 7 reasons why Barry shows his brokenness to us, like an old hooker doing a striptease
Much has been written lately about the boorish and anti-social behavior of one of our members, Barry. I am always interested, when someone becomes so insulting and difficult, why? Here are seven reasons I have come up with; Barry's brokenness. Can anybody find others? 1. Barry has no significant other. This is probably reason number one. Barry has said before how casually he treated sex (yes, past tense). Unfortunately, he interacts with women as if he is in high school, they know it, and he now finds himself a lonely man. 2. Barry is almost 75 years old. Three quarters of a century, and nothing to show for it. He is meeting his death too soon, having wasted most of his life. 3. He is out of shape, and never exercises to take his mind off his problems. So he ends up here - ranting and raving, shoving his belly up against the desk. 4. He has lost all of his money. I don't know anyone his age who must continue to work for a living, or who lives in a rooming house. That would piss off anyone his age. 5. He is beginning to drink a lot. This will make a person both imprecise and slothful, and this is showing up more and more in his writing. 6. He doesn't practice TM. His stress has him by the jollies, and he doesn't even know it. 7. He never understood enlightenment, and envies those who proclaim it. It eats at him, like a cancer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
Um, don't hold your breath, Share. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM lol. please rate and comment. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his choice of puppy chow), to our common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in an enlightened state is a subjective state that defies any material proof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to me what Barry meant when he posted this message below, because now I'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experiences had anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, I might interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn't mean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpret them differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they're attacking me, merely that they see things a different way, from another point of view. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on this forum, except YOU. :-) :-) :-) The question (for you) is, WHY? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him. Since I've met canines who were more enlightened than Jim Flanegin, I'll pass, thanks. :-) :-) :-) From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection || |||| Frank Caliendo bush collection lol. please rate and comment.|| | View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward thefollowing response (and his choice of puppy chow), toour common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in anenlightened state is a subjective state that defies any materialproof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to mewhat Barry meant when he posted this message below, because nowI'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experienceshad anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, Imight interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn'tmean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpretthem differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they'reattacking me, merely that they see things a different way, fromanother point of view. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on thisforum, except YOU. :-) :-) :-) The question (for you) is, WHY? ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@...wrote : Fine. If that's how low yourstandards are, then *you* can be envious ofhim. SinceI've met canines who were more enlightenedthan Jim Flanegin, I'll pass, thanks. :-) :-) :-) From:dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:01 PM Subject:[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. On 11/22/2014 1:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. /So, it's all about Willytex - but do you have to be so mean?// // //You can call me anything you want, if that helps you dehumanize me for the purpose of starting a dialog. But, just for the record, my alias is Pundit Sir and my name is Richard. / Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. /You sound scared, but maybe it's just your prejudice that I'm addressing. Now that I've got your attention, why do you come across as prejudiced and bigoted?/ If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. /Non sequitur./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
turq, nay I am not upset. I am DEVASTATED! BUT... I'll admit being wrong after you do, LOL! PS what does it mean when peeps put * around words? Very sexy (-: From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection || |||| Frank Caliendo bush collection lol. please rate and comment.|| | View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward thefollowing response (and his choice of puppy chow), toour common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in anenlightened state is a subjective state that defies any materialproof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to mewhat Barry meant when he posted this message below, because nowI'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experienceshad anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, Imight interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn'tmean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpretthem differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they'reattacking me, merely that they see things a different way, fromanother point of view. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on thisforum, except YOU. :-) :-) :-) The
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
The *same* as bolding the word. Always cracks me up when Barry lies like no one else on here, but then tries to bust others, for their lack of integrity. I wonder if slime ooozes from his pores? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, nay I am not upset. I am DEVASTATED! BUT... I'll admit being wrong after you do, LOL! PS what does it mean when peeps put * around words? Very sexy (-: From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM lol. please rate and comment. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his choice of puppy chow), to our common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in an enlightened state is a subjective state that defies any material proof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to me what Barry meant when he posted this message below, because now I'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experiences
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
I only repeated what I was told by Marci Shimoff that one and only time I met her, that the Chicken Soup of the Whatever books started in Fairfield. That *could* possibly be wrong, of course, since YOU have established that she's willing to lie about other things, such as being the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time. But you did it again. You dodged and weaved and did anything but admit the obvious -- that you passed along a lie, AND, when called on it, have consistently refused to admit that it was a lie. What IS it about people like you and JohnR...so terrified of admitting that you fucked up? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! turq, nay I am not upset. I am DEVASTATED! BUT... I'll admit being wrong after you do, LOL! PS what does it mean when peeps put * around words? Very sexy (-: From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection || |||| Frank Caliendo bush collection lol. please rate and comment.|| | View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward thefollowing response (and his choice
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy's Pic for a Fine Leader
A jerk? To post an article that highlights the crimes and machinations of a man
Marshy flattered and praised? It shows what a lying greedy huckster Marshy was
and you just don't like it. Keeping your head in the sand won't EVER create an
Age of Enlightenment.
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy's Pic for a Fine Leader
No, Context is often everything with the insinuations of someone
selectively excerpting. MJ is being a jerk again trying to muck this up out of
context in to some negativity as a denouncement of Maharishi.
\The possibilities are enormous if health ministries of some of these state run
countries truly understood the science of the Unified Field and transcending
meditation then world consciousness could be changed for the collective good
right away. If Cuba for instance on sound scientific reason instituted a
transcending meditation within its healthcare delivery system the United States
should be in a significant meditation gap with Cuba's progressing in
consciousness and health. Think of the possibilities. That is what Maharishi
was doing thinking out loud about these systems. MJ is just mucking around
taking things out of context for his own ignorant reasons of evil doing.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck
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corrupt democracy by President RobertGuei of the Ivory Coast.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
Hey John, My advice: tell Barry you will apologize just as soon as he produces the dozens of TM Teachers who will back up his claim that we were trained to bad mouth other forms of meditation. Ask him about this BAL (big ass lie) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM lol. please rate and comment. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his choice of puppy chow), to our common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in an enlightened state is a subjective state that defies any material proof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to me what Barry meant when he posted this message below, because now I'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experiences had anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, I might interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn't mean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpret them differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they're attacking me, merely that they see things a different way, from another point of view. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on this forum, except YOU. :-) :-) :-) The question (for you) is, WHY? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Fine. If that's how low your standards are, then *you* can be envious of him. Since I've met canines who were more enlightened than Jim Flanegin, I'll pass, thanks. :-) :-) :-) From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Enlightenment I know he is enlightened because of his first person accounts. I can relate to what he is talking about by experience. He is very clear and accurate in his writings. You seem
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
On 11/22/2014 3:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */Well said, Sal. /* */ /* */My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-)/* How much would you be willing to wager? /* */ */But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. /* How much would you be willing to wager - do you have a PayPal account? */ /* */After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. /* So, it's all about Richard and not about your cognitive dissonance.Go figure. /* */ *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ** ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. /For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says//- he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turq one on one. But I really don't like it when the piling on and ganging up happens. Something about that seems very unhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
[FairfieldLife] Cognitive Dissonance, was Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
On 11/22/2014 2:44 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */Cephus is very much *not* just setting up straw men. He has been very active for many years on atheist chat groups, where one commonly sees *every single one* of the dumb behaviors he lists being demonstrated by idiotic Chrisschuns /* / /You sound very prejudiced against certain religious groups. Your intolerance and prejudiced opinions count as nothing in my book, Barry. First, you came for the Jews - next you'll be going after all the gays and lesbians, the cross-dressers, trans-sexuals, and trans-genders. You're starting to sound like an old, mean and bigoted skin-head biker. Go figure../ //* */ */who descend on such groups to try to convert the heathens. *Out of context*, his article may seem to be a straw man argument, but if you had spent any time on such forums, you would know how spot-on his descriptions of common anti-atheist rhetoric are. /* */ /* */As for the distinction between how a modern-day British person might feel about religion vs. how Americans might feel, there is a grain of truth in what you say, but only a grain. Modern-day British Catholics seem just as insane to me as Catholics in other parts of the world, for example. /* */ /* */I think you're cherry-picking arguers for the existence of God to make it appear as if the ones you LIKE are more common than they are. I could do the same thing, quoting Christians I actually LIKE such as Bruce Cockburn or G.K. (Seriousness is not a virtue) Chesterton. But they're exceptions. You are not likely to find their equals among the many people trying to sell their God on the Internet. Almost by definition, anyone zealous enough to try to *convert* someone else to a belief in God has left reason and rationality behind and is working from a platform of elitism and emotion. (IMO, of course.) /* */ /* */My idea of a *civilized* discussion about the existence of God would be as follows:/* */- Person 1: I believe God exists./* */- Person 2: I believe that no such being as God exists./* */- Person 1: OK, nice talking to you./* */- Person 2: Yup. See you round./* */ /* */That's it. It's about BELIEF, so there is really nothing more to be said, or any point in trying./* // It's really none of your business what anyone else believes, Barry. You should probably working on your own cognitive dissonance: /I've seen him project the double, as described in the Castaneda books. One of him was standing a few feet in front of me and another one was up on top of the mountain we were in front of, waving./ - TurquoiseB */As for your speculations about some trying event in my past w.r.t. religion, Bzt, thanks for playing, but you're wrong. I was never raised religious, and never spent much time around anyone religious (other than TM Neo-Hindus). For that matter, I've never spent any time around atheists, either, because as I suggest above I don't see any point in arguing about something that is purely a matter of belief and that can never be resolved. /* *//* */What I'm on about is a set of very common behaviors one tends to see on the Internet among those who feel the need to push their God agendas on others. You are probably correct that when I rail against such people I may be ignoring the 1% (or fewer) believers who actually have some intelligence, but so be it. It's the 99% I'm talking about, and to. If you don't consider yourself part of them, just don't read my stuff. /* *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:16 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... This Cephus is just setting up a straw man; then knocking him down and feeling pleased with himself. Just take a look at Richard Dawkins debating with the (former) Archbishop of Canterbury at Oxford University. You may or may not think that Dawkins has the better of Rowan Williams but Williams is clearly *not* stupid and doesn't employ any of the ten statements that Cephus castigates. One issue that strikes me about the difference between Barry and myself is that he's American; I'm English. And what kind of difference would that be? Well, in the USA, religion (including fundamentalist versions) is big - indeed it's big business. In the UK, religion is now marginal. It conjures up images of well-meaning but ineffectual Anglican vicars with little input into current societal changes. To me religion is harmless - rather sweet perhaps. To Barry the mention of religion triggers memories of some unresolved trauma from his childhood or adolescence. To Barry it's all about visceral emotion; to me it's all about sweet reason and nuanced reflection. Here's Dawkins/Williams in civilized debate . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2f5TA2nCs ---In
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
sal, sal, God Bless You. Yes, let me apologize again, that I find your posts lacking in the interesting department. Remember, you're the guy who has expressed the sentiment that youtube, and the internet in general should be edited appropriately according to what you consider to be relevant. Go figure. But, but, Barry, bringing a lot to the place? I guess if you consider dumping on people on a daily basis as bringing a lot to thee place, you are right. But, God Bless You, sal, God bless ya. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turq one on one. But I really don't like it when the piling on and ganging up happens. Something about that seems very unhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
The funny thing is, if any of us were to visit Leiden and find Barry, we would find a half-drunken chickenshit, disavowing all that he has said here. You see, Barry is a coward, hiding behind these forums. He wouldn't have the guts to push his agenda, face to face. I may prove that, one of these days. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/22/2014 3:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) How much would you be willing to wager? But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. How much would you be willing to wager - do you have a PayPal account? After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. So, it's all about Richard and not about your cognitive dissonance.Go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turq one on one. But I really don't like it when the piling on and ganging up happens. Something about that seems very unhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
--- turquoiseb@... wrote : Excellent rap, Salyavin. Nothing I can add to this. But I do have to ask about something you said: It's just shame that atheism offers no afterlife in paradise to make up for the biggest draw religions have! It's dangerous to go to paradise because an ever-erect penis will result in permanent damage to penis. Technicaly and medicaly you can die of blueballs. Any erection that lasts for more than 3 hours is dangerous and allopathic doctor should be consulted. Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis. ~ Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd 39 Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal. ~ Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351 Abu al-Fida (1273 – 1331 AD) was a Muslim geographer and historian. He relates that Prophet Muhammad suffered from a death erection. Ali ibn Abi alib, the fourth rightly-guided Caliph of Islam (and also Muhammad's son-in-law and cousin) washed his body after his death, and had exclaimed, O prophet, thy penis is erect unto the sky! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ok, if it doesn't matter whether or not there's a God, then a genuinely interesting question is: why do people go on and on about it? What is really going on in all these supposedly intellectual conversations? What are people really attempting to accomplish by such posts and exchanges? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com I'll have a go at answering that one. It doesn't really matter what people believe as everyone usually just gets on with everyone else, nobody really judges people on what they believe - how they behave is the important thing. After 9/11 Richard Dawkins thought that maybe it was time that we all sat down and had a good long metaphysical look at ourselves and whether we should be abandoning old ways of thinking if they are going to lead to fundamentalism and skewed morals and all the endless hideous stories we hear from round the world about FGM and witchcraft trials and the pathetic excuses made by successive popes about institutional child abuse. And that's not even mentioning the mental pollution of religious schools filling young brains with unproven rubbish. It's time for a change perhaps, the idea is that we can perhaps decide a rational way of ordering societies and how to educate children with the baggage of iron age superstitions.Maybe we, as a race, could grow out of backward thinking, blind faith and gullibility. Maybe we'd just be better off without all the mistakes of the past holding us back, surely we can do better than relying on so-called received knowledge from iron age gods? I think it's been a great debate and long may it continue, anything that makes people think about themselves is a good thing. Shame nothing has changed really, but the cards are on the table and maybe the mad fundies will start to question themselves if more people question them? I doubt it, they all seem to be getting more entrenched. The trouble I see is that you can't reason somebody out of something they weren't reasoned into. Dawkins thought that religion was like any other system of thought, that it will be replaced by a logically superior one if it came along. But religion is deeper than that, it's a thing of the heart and not of the brain. Especially if you are brought up in a faith, it's like the first language you learn, an intractable part of how your brain works and the first thing you'll turn to. It's an emotion that we try to justify intellectually. I think it's good to provide alternatives in case people discover they like asking questions and don't mind where the answers take them. It's just shame that atheism offers no afterlife in paradise to make up for the biggest draw religions have! That's probably what stops a lot of potential converts. Darwin should have thought of that. But he still wouldn't fool anyone because if you care about knowledge you still have to follow where the discovery of objective knowledge takes you. Or you stay with your beliefs like most people do. Or become a TM scientist and pretend that the pursuit of truth has taken you back to a position of god creating and running everything. Of course, many religions have started using the language of science to argue against scientific discoveries, I always read The Watchtower and am amazed at the ingenuity of believers trying to fool the unwary with sciencey articles disproving evolution. Should be laws against it, but that is a topic for another thread. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 5:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more
[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment and the younger generation
Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future. We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for the better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 26 Pictures Will Make You Re-Evaluate Your Entire Existence
Even scarier: http://i.imgur.com/I7I3luC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/I7I3luC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/I7I3luC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/I7I3luC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/I7I3luC.jpg View on i.imgur.com http://i.imgur.com/I7I3luC.jpg Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4...@yahoo.com wrote : http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, the mysterious and fascinating thing for me is that each of us on FFL is triggered by someone different, by different online behavior. I like Richard a lot because I don't get any sort of snide or arrogant or mean vibe from him. At all. And I enjoy something in all FFLers but one. So I think of him as my shadow to work on. Anyway, it's all grist for the mill, it all can be used to help us develop fully, yada yada. That's why I continue here. Go figger. PS I admit it's still a bit weird for me when 2 people I really like, like you and Richard, are at odds with each other. But I shall soldier on (: Eh? I'm not at odds with him, I've often tried to engage him but he just gets aggressive. I don't understand it so I just ignore. People are perfectly entitled to dislike me if they want, I don't mind in the slightest. It's probably just because I don't share his beliefs or something trivial. But yes, these web alliances can run deep and it can be fascinating when someone reveals another side to them and you suddenly have to re-evaluate them. I'm sure if we all met face-to-face it would be different, forming opinions on someone based just on their religious predilections or otherwise is going about life in a different way to normal and is bound to cause fractiousness. That's life in the wild web for ya! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turq one on one. But I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
--- s3raphita@... wrote : Re But every so often, it's probably good to present the point of view of a more balanced atheist.: This Cephus is just setting up a straw man; then knocking him down and feeling pleased with himself. Just take a look at Richard Dawkins debating with the (former) Archbishop of Canterbury at Oxford University. You may or may not think that Dawkins has the better of Rowan Williams but Williams is clearly *not* stupid and doesn't employ any of the ten statements that Cephus castigates. One issue that strikes me about the difference between Barry and myself is that he's American; I'm English. And what kind of difference would that be? Well, in the USA, religion (including fundamentalist versions) is big - indeed it's big business. In the UK, religion is now marginal. It conjures up images of well-meaning but ineffectual Anglican vicars with little input into current societal changes. To me religion is harmless - rather sweet perhaps. Your statement is inherently absurd. Please maintain the distinction between Religion and Spiritualism. Religion is like a banana skin, spiritualism is the banana. Dogmatic, under-developed religions can be harmful. Generations of women suffered from guilt complex due to christian genesis story. To Barry the mention of religion triggers memories of some unresolved trauma from his childhood or adolescence. To Barry it's all about visceral emotion; to me it's all about sweet reason and nuanced reflection. Here's Dawkins/Williams in civilized debate . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2f5TA2nCs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2f5TA2nCs
[FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published
Hi I have been informed in another group that there are about a thousand discourses by Guru Dev in Hindi. Some have been published in English, but most have not. It has been stated by author Paul Mason that Maharishi owed most of his core ideas to Guru Dev. Maharishi also published a series of Guru Dev renderings. It would be very good if TM-ers made it clear to TM leaders that here lies an opportunity to promote a lot more from Guru Dev, who is the originator of TM, the one honoured during the TM initiation, and the one that Maharishi said this of: He made me. Guidance fit for folks - doesn't the TM movement see it? Compare: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info Regards, -- T. Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
Are you still upset by being exposed for knowing nothing about Tantra ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM lol. please rate and comment. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his choice of puppy chow), to our common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in an enlightened state is a subjective state that defies any material proof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to me what Barry meant when he posted this message below, because now I'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experiences had anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, I might interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn't mean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpret them differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they're attacking me, merely that they see things a different way, from another point of view. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : Hi I have been informed in another group that there are about a thousand discourses by Guru Dev in Hindi. Some have been published in English, but most have not. It has been stated by author Paul Mason that Maharishi owed most of his core ideas to Guru Dev. Maharishi also published a series of Guru Dev renderings. It would be very good if TM-ers made it clear to TM leaders that here lies an opportunity to promote a lot more from Guru Dev, who is the originator of TM, the one honoured during the TM initiation, and the one that Maharishi said this of: He made me. Guidance fit for folks - doesn't the TM movement see it? I would imagine that once you've told everyone that none of Guru Dev's teachings survived it's a bit tricky to suddenly account for a few hundred books of them. Especially when he contradicts Marshy an awful lot. And isn't there a sentence in there about never charging for initiations as it damns both the teacher and pupil to hell? Oops... Compare: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info Regards, -- T. Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
His beer-belly is the only result of his tantra practise :-) Did you know he used to call himself uncle-tantra ? HaHa, what a clown. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Are you drunk again this morning,, Barry? I have noticed you are practically an alcoholic at this point. Nobody develops a beer belly like yours, without seriously hitting the sauce. Anyway, I'll leave you to your boozy and lame jokes, though you may want to have your liver checked. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A complete list of Turquoiseb's supporters on Fairfieldlife
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear Awoelflebater, It seems true that some of the negativity written here rises to the level of terrorism with intent. Delicate flower, Gird on thy Spiritual Armor and have shields up as you venture forth in FFL. Have a nice day, -Buck Hey Buck, thanks for the words of inspiration. I will go forth and remain positive and unsmitten by negativity and terrorism because my world is full of wonder and beauty and I hope your day fills you with more good will and love that can spring unexpectedly from the most unusual places. awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, I am perplexed when someone says they find [Turq's] perspectives interesting or thought provoking. It is a simple formula he uses here, over and over and over, again: 1. Take a conventional view. (ex: belief in God) 2. Simplify it, to the point of absurdity. (ex: God is an old man who tells us what to do) 3. Accuse forum members of being gullible idiots, and guilty of believing in the straw man just created. 4. Pontificate about why you are superior, because you don't believe in the straw man. Anyone impressed by this behavior, simply leaves me speechless. Good synopsis. Here is my problem. You try and engage and you get slapped around. You decide he is not anyone interested in engaging - he simply likes to do all of the above. So you ignore him but then he dominates the place with more and more outrageous fabrications, lies and just plain odious posts that are not only too many in number but so bloody repetitive. I don't mind disagreement and alternate viewpoints and additions to a conversation if someone could at least make it INTERESTING. But no, he just blathers on and on with the same old formula as you so clearly posted above. Then you get the bleeding heart who insists he is just a wounded bear and requires compassion despite the fact that all he does is abuse her and she takes it like that is going to heal him in some way. It really does give one pause and I ask myself every single day why I continue to log on here. So many good people have left for perfectly good reasons which include what I have just written about. But for now I remain for the occasional nugget of interest and because I genuinely like a few of you here and you bring reason and sanity back for short periods of time. I am now going back to try and ignore what is virtually unignorable - think of it not as compassion but as common sense and self preservation of my delicate mental state!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
It's an incredible transformation going on. The negative souls seems to have a harder time actually reincarnating whereas since 1977 the doors for more evolved souls are no wide open. These bright souls seems now to be everywhere, it's beautiful beyond words. It's also a caution to those now dwelling in the negative here on FFL; change immediately or face problems having another body in a long while. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future. We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for the better.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them. Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
It's an incredible transformation going on. The negative souls seems to have a harder time actually reincarnating whereas since 1977 the doors for more evolved souls are now wide open. These bright souls seems now to be everywhere, it's beautiful beyond words. It's also a caution to those now dwelling in the negative here on FFL; change immediately or face problems having another body in a long while. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future. We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for the better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 26 Pictures Will Make You Re-Evaluate Your Entire Existence
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile 26 Pictures Will Make You Re-Evaluate Your Entire Existence http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile 26 Pictures Will Make You Re-Evaluate Your Entire Existe... http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile The universe, man... THE UNIVERSE. View on www.buzzfeed.com http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile Preview by Yahoo Everything is a speck in relation to all the other specks. Thanks for posting. http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary?s=mobile
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
A fit Richard against a beer-bellied, delusional, old man ? It's pretty obvious who'd be beaten into a bloody pulp ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The funny thing is, if any of us were to visit Leiden and find Barry, we would find a half-drunken chickenshit, disavowing all that he has said here. You see, Barry is a coward, hiding behind these forums. He wouldn't have the guts to push his agenda, face to face. I may prove that, one of these days. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/22/2014 3:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) How much would you be willing to wager? But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. How much would you be willing to wager - do you have a PayPal account? After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. So, it's all about Richard and not about your cognitive dissonance.Go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Here, let me rephrase that for you, Barry, you sick monkey... I see we are going to get some wonderful mileage from this picture. And I see bawee is still sporting the cooking pot or lampshade on his head. The really funny thing is, I remember bawee commenting on how dog-ugly Judy was in her picture, he would go on and on about it and how old she was. In contrast he would imply he was so much better looking and even went so far as to say he was thin. Now I couldn't care less if he looked like some grizzled out geezer with man boobs reading comic books with a stewing pot balanced on his head but because he has always been so quick to denigrate the looks of others I thought it appropriate to give it a mention here.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) I think we should organise one, be fascinating to see what everyone is really like and if we mix like sociable humans or gather into predictable corners or start fighting over whether Erich Von Daniken is a better scientist than John Hagelin. And I'd sit down for a pint with Judy any day! But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. I suspect everyone will be as curious as me to find out what he's really like, he plays his cards so close to his chest it's hard to see the humanity beneath. Or maybe he really does only speak in one sentence missives with a go figure at the end. Perhaps it's a Texan thing we didn't know about? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turq one on one. But I really don't like it when the piling on and ganging up happens. Something about that seems very unhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry during his last picnic
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : No wonder the dude is so cranky... Oh Lord, you've done it again.
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It is OK, Ann. When Barry is accused of being sadistic, he takes it to heart. He enjoys hurting others, as his own inner pain never stops. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them. Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology.
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Yes, I was amazed too, after all the talk Barry does, about being so attractive in his old age. He looks like a bum, who dumpster dives for breakfast. And this picture is about a year old... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Here, let me rephrase that for you, Barry, you sick monkey... I see we are going to get some wonderful mileage from this picture. And I see bawee is still sporting the cooking pot or lampshade on his head. The really funny thing is, I remember bawee commenting on how dog-ugly Judy was in her picture, he would go on and on about it and how old she was. In contrast he would imply he was so much better looking and even went so far as to say he was thin. Now I couldn't care less if he looked like some grizzled out geezer with man boobs reading comic books with a stewing pot balanced on his head but because he has always been so quick to denigrate the looks of others I thought it appropriate to give it a mention here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry during his last picnic
The funny part is I just feel like running with it, today. I'll soon get tired of berating the old wreck, but for now, game on. PS It is raining like crazy outside - Yay!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : No wonder the dude is so cranky... Oh Lord, you've done it again.
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LOL - last words on his deathbed, I hate you all ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
On 11/21/2014 6:08 AM, Share Long wrote: Ok, if it doesn't matter whether or not there's a God, then a genuinely interesting question is: why do people go on and on about it? What is really going on in all these supposedly intellectual conversations? What are people really attempting to accomplish by such posts and exchanges? /It's actually very simple, Share - trolls send duplicitous messages to discussion groups in order to get angry responses./ *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 5:24 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... */One of the reasons I speak in such a derogatory way about God-believers here is that I figure after centuries of them putting down non-believers all the time (not to mention killing them, burning them at the stake, etc.) they should get a taste of their own medicine. That, and the fact that I really DO consider many God-believers pretty much as stupid as I say they are. :-) /* */ /* */But every so often, it's probably good to present the point of view of a more balanced atheist who has more compassion for the idiots trying to shout him down than I have. Consider this my contribution to FFL in this respect.../* */ /* 10 Stupid Things Theists Say to Atheists http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/2013/10/09/10-stupid-things-theists-say-atheists/ October 9, 2013 by Cephus http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/author/admin/ http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/author/admin/ Say Something Stupid http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Say-Something-Stupid.jpg As atheists, we see this kind of thing all the time, really absurd things that are said to us by theists in the midst of a debate or discussion that leave us rolling our eyes. This really isn’t intended so much for the atheist, but for the theist, who really needs to understand that none of these things are going to convince anyone of the validity of their arguments. Maybe that’s okay with them, but maybe, just maybe, they never realized just how pointless any of the following statements actually are. It leaves me wondering if theists are really debating to come to a mutually agreeable conclusion, or if they’re just “debating” to hear themselves talk or see themselves type. And so, in no particular order, these are ten statements that I see routinely from theists that are simply not helping your case, and why. 10. /*I’ll pray for you…* / This is totally and completely useless. If you really feel the need to talk to yourself about us, I suppose it’s your time to waste, but this statement really comes off as a final flip of the finger to the atheist when the theist has run out of other arguments. It’s essentially “I’m still right, so there!” It appears to be childish, even if it’s sincere. We don’t want you to pray for us, we want you to be able to defend your beliefs. Maybe you should spend more time worrying about that. 9. /*The Bible says… * /We don’t care what the Bible says. In fact, we probably know the Bible better than you do and not only the Bible, but many other religious texts as well. Often, that’s why we’re atheists, because we had the courage and commitment to read the Bible and think about what it actually says. We don’t limit our knowledge to the words on the page though, we often know why it’s there, where it came from and how it came to be accepted by your religion. We’ve engaged in higher criticism of your religious text and can almost certainly show how and why your book isn’t trustworthy. Don’t pretend we’re not well-versed in what your book says, we are. 8. /*This website says… * /This is probably even worse than the previous statement because not only does it show that you think we’re not well-versed in all of the standard apologetic arguments, it demonstrate that you are not. If the best you can do is grab a claim off some apologist’s website or YouTube video, there’s really no point in talking to you because clearly, you don’t understand the argument well enough to present your own take on it. I don’t care what William Lane Craig says, I’m not debating William Lane Craig, I’m debating you. Make your own arguments and understand what you’re saying because I absolutely will attack the argument and expect you to defend it. 7. /*You can’t prove God doesn’t exist… * /No I can’t, it’s not my job to do so. It’s yours. You’re the one claiming that God is real, it rests solely on your shoulders to prove it. After all, you can’t prove that Krishna doesn’t exist, does that mean that the Hindus are right and Krishna does? You can’t prove that unicorns exist, does that make them real? The burden of proof is always on the
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No kidding. That fight would last about two seconds, with Barry crapping himself, and insisting he was just joking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A fit Richard against a beer-bellied, delusional, old man ? It's pretty obvious who'd be beaten into a bloody pulp ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The funny thing is, if any of us were to visit Leiden and find Barry, we would find a half-drunken chickenshit, disavowing all that he has said here. You see, Barry is a coward, hiding behind these forums. He wouldn't have the guts to push his agenda, face to face. I may prove that, one of these days. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/22/2014 3:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) How much would you be willing to wager? But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. How much would you be willing to wager - do you have a PayPal account? After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. So, it's all about Richard and not about your cognitive dissonance.Go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn
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It is a very strange thing, how we revere our bodies, and not others. I was watching the odd crime show (Alaska State Troopers, I think), and the cops were pulling a severed leg out of a trash bag. All of us watching were completely horrified. Then it turned our to be the leg of a bear, and we all relaxed a bit. Note: I am not making the case for modifying our diet! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) I think we should organise one, be fascinating to see what everyone is really like and if we mix like sociable humans or gather into predictable corners or start fighting over whether Erich Von Daniken is a better scientist than John Hagelin. And I'd sit down for a pint with Judy any day! But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. I suspect everyone will be as curious as me to find out what he's really like, he plays his cards so close to his chest it's hard to see the humanity beneath. Or maybe he really does only speak in one sentence missives with a go figure at the end. Perhaps it's a Texan thing we didn't know about? Now that you're on the subject of Richard I will pipe in my two cents. Until about 4 months ago I didn't quite get him either. He can appear repetitive and trollish and he would purposefully misrepresent others, as if he had a reading comprehension problem or was simply enjoying the perverseness of making stuff up. And he was so tireless in all of this. Now, although this sounds a lot like your personal buddy here there are some really vital differences. These are as follows: Richard appears to live a balanced life with outside interests, a beautiful woman, all the trappings of a comfortable life with plenty of money to keep him and is spouse in a manner many are not as fortunate to possess. Consequently, he seems pretty fulfilled, at least on the material level. Richard totally goofs around here and doesn't take it nearly as seriously as some others. He has his style of playing with it all and although he definitely appears to like some more than others he's willing to give most here a taste of his playfulness at any given moment. I actually think he's hilarious not to mention one smart guy who has probably more miles investigating spiritual paths than just about anyone here (this is not something I particularly find interesting but I'll give him the nod on this one). To take Richard seriously to the point where he bugs you means you have missed his whole shtick. If you can tolerate and even appreciate bawee as you seem to do surely you can find the stomach to tolerate Richard who is one hundredth the obnoxious boor your lampshade-wearing friend is. But, as you say, the internet is a funny place because I really appreciate your mind and your sense of humour, Sal. But your choice of friends absolutely stumps me. Each to his own. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A complete list of Turquoiseb's supporters on Fairfieldlife
On 11/22/2014 5:39 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dear Awoelflebater, It seems true that some of the negativity written here rises to the level of terrorism with intent. Delicate flower, Gird on thy Spiritual Armor and have shields up as you venture forth in FFL. Have a nice day, -Buck /Does anyone else wonder what kind of computer software Buck is using to post these messages? Go figure./ awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, I am perplexed when someone says they find [Turq's] perspectives interesting or thought provoking. It is a simple formula he uses here, over and over and over, again: 1. Take a conventional view. (ex: belief in God) 2. Simplify it, to the point of absurdity. (ex: God is an old man who tells us what to do) 3. Accuse forum members of being gullible idiots, and guilty of believing in the straw man just created. 4. Pontificate about why you are superior, because you don't believe in the straw man. Anyone impressed by this behavior, simply leaves me speechless. Good synopsis. Here is my problem. You try and engage and you get slapped around. You decide he is not anyone interested in engaging - he simply likes to do all of the above. So you ignore him but then he dominates the place with more and more outrageous fabrications, lies and just plain odious posts that are not only too many in number but so bloody repetitive. I don't mind disagreement and alternate viewpoints and additions to a conversation if someone could at least make it INTERESTING. But no, he just blathers on and on with the same old formula as you so clearly posted above. Then you get the bleeding heart who insists he is just a wounded bear and requires compassion despite the fact that all he does is abuse her and she takes it like that is going to heal him in some way. It really does give one pause and I ask myself every single day why I continue to log on here. So many good people have left for perfectly good reasons which include what I have just written about. But for now I remain for the occasional nugget of interest and because I genuinely like a few of you here and you bring reason and sanity back for short periods of time. I am now going back to try and ignore what is virtually unignorable - think of it not as compassion but as common sense and self preservation of my delicate mental state!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
What she said. I didn't get Richard for awhile, either. He sometimes responds in a way that leaves no room for a further comment. But I have never found him to be mean, unbalanced, or sadistic. He actually seems to be quite a gentle and fulfilled man. I don't think it is any coincidence that Barry makes it his mission to go after those here, who are most successful in life. I truly believe Barry hates people who make it in this world, while envying them unrelentingly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) I think we should organise one, be fascinating to see what everyone is really like and if we mix like sociable humans or gather into predictable corners or start fighting over whether Erich Von Daniken is a better scientist than John Hagelin. And I'd sit down for a pint with Judy any day! But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. I suspect everyone will be as curious as me to find out what he's really like, he plays his cards so close to his chest it's hard to see the humanity beneath. Or maybe he really does only speak in one sentence missives with a go figure at the end. Perhaps it's a Texan thing we didn't know about? Now that you're on the subject of Richard I will pipe in my two cents. Until about 4 months ago I didn't quite get him either. He can appear repetitive and trollish and he would purposefully misrepresent others, as if he had a reading comprehension problem or was simply enjoying the perverseness of making stuff up. And he was so tireless in all of this. Now, although this sounds a lot like your personal buddy here there are some really vital differences. These are as follows: Richard appears to live a balanced life with outside interests, a beautiful woman, all the trappings of a comfortable life with plenty of money to keep him and is spouse in a manner many are not as fortunate to possess. Consequently, he seems pretty fulfilled, at least on the material level. Richard totally goofs around here and doesn't take it nearly as seriously as some others. He has his style of playing with it all and although he definitely appears to like some more than others he's willing to give most here a taste of his playfulness at any given moment. I actually think he's hilarious not to mention one smart guy who has probably more miles investigating spiritual paths than just about anyone here (this is not something I particularly find interesting but I'll give him the nod on this one). To take Richard seriously to the point where he bugs you means you have missed his whole shtick. If you can tolerate and even appreciate bawee as you seem to do surely you can find the stomach to tolerate Richard who is one hundredth the obnoxious boor your lampshade-wearing friend is. But, as you say, the internet is a funny place because I really appreciate your mind and your sense of humour, Sal. But your choice of friends absolutely stumps me. Each to his own. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
On 11/22/2014 6:34 AM, Share Long wrote: turq, huh?! How can Richard stalk and abuse you if you put his posts in a Folder and instruct your Folder Secretary to not show them to you? /Barry actually didn't say he filtered my messages into a folder, Share - //he said he kill-filed me, meaning he doesn't even see them unless they are included in another reply. He doesn't take criticism very well - maybe he is scared. He is a complicated character to figure out. He probably hates me now for exposing his deep cognitive dissonance, but he did ask for feedback //and invited us to read his Rama web site./ ! And fyi, I would miss Richard if he wasn't here and I bet there are others who feel the same. And I hope you can be more at peace with your emotions about Richard. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... */Well said, Sal. /* */ /* */My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-)/* */ /* */But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. /* */ /* */After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. /* *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ** ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. /For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
That is the way I figure it, too, Richard. You are the one on here, who never lets him escape his past, often quoting contradictory information that he has posted, prior to his latest screed. He is both furious, and mentally confused - not a good combo. They will have their hands full, at the assisted living center. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/22/2014 6:34 AM, Share Long wrote: turq, huh?! How can Richard stalk and abuse you if you put his posts in a Folder and instruct your Folder Secretary to not show them to you? Barry actually didn't say he filtered my messages into a folder, Share - he said he kill-filed me, meaning he doesn't even see them unless they are included in another reply. He doesn't take criticism very well - maybe he is scared. He is a complicated character to figure out. He probably hates me now for exposing his deep cognitive dissonance, but he did ask for feedback and invited us to read his Rama web site. ! And fyi, I would miss Richard if he wasn't here and I bet there are others who feel the same. And I hope you can be more at peace with your emotions about Richard. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
dear *dear * turq, hopefully you see the irony of your first sentence! Otherwise we are doomed doomed doomed! MAYBE when you admit you were wrong about CS series, I will admit my total wrongness. MAYBE... From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! I only repeated what I was told by Marci Shimoff that one and only time I met her, that the Chicken Soup of the Whatever books started in Fairfield. That *could* possibly be wrong, of course, since YOU have established that she's willing to lie about other things, such as being the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time. But you did it again. You dodged and weaved and did anything but admit the obvious -- that you passed along a lie, AND, when called on it, have consistently refused to admit that it was a lie. What IS it about people like you and JohnR...so terrified of admitting that you fucked up? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! turq, nay I am not upset. I am DEVASTATED! BUT... I'll admit being wrong after you do, LOL! PS what does it mean when peeps put * around words? Very sexy (-: From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Well said, Sal.
My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together
physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be
bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink
it, of course. :-)
I think we should organise one, be fascinating to see what everyone is really
like and if we mix like sociable humans or gather into predictable corners or
start fighting over whether Erich Von Daniken is a better scientist than John
Hagelin. And I'd sit down for a pint with Judy any day!
But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was
missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not
many, and only for a second or two.
After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into
a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years.
I suspect everyone will be as curious as me to find out what he's really like,
he plays his cards so close to his chest it's hard to see the humanity beneath.
Or maybe he really does only speak in one sentence missives with a go figure
at the end. Perhaps it's a Texan thing we didn't know about?
Actually, he stole Go figure from me. He read it in Road Trip Mind and has
been using it ever since.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many
years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his
behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here.
I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's
irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an
opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean
endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability
to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's
like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's
his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service.
If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well
practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he
either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it.
After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's
been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess.
He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion
board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading
shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure.
Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked
boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a
point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't
interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time.
Every day.
Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick
pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a
discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and
alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not.
It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day.
Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've
got brand new tires.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience
for theists than I have...
On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyonelaughing at the same
joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, onthe subject of that joke. Think about
it. Yes, there issomething that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet.
For the record, this is payback for all theshit he has given me for the past
ten years. The tables areturned now, his turn to cry.
The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around theinternet - that's
his game.
Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's neveraccomplished a damn
thing, so far as I can tell.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,sharelong60@... wrote :
Steve, I don't mind when people confront turqone on one. But I really don't
like it when the piling onand ganging up happens. Something about that seems
veryunhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Go figger! Which I *stole* from Bhairitu... From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) I think we should organise one, be fascinating to see what everyone is really like and if we mix like sociable humans or gather into predictable corners or start fighting over whether Erich Von Daniken is a better scientist than John Hagelin. And I'd sit down for a pint with Judy any day! But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. I suspect everyone will be as curious as me to find out what he's really like, he plays his cards so close to his chest it's hard to see the humanity beneath. Or maybe he really does only speak in one sentence missives with a go figure at the end. Perhaps it's a Texan thing we didn't know about? Actually, he stole Go figure from me. He read it in Road Trip Mind and has been using it ever since. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyonelaughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, onthe subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there issomething that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all theshit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables areturned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around theinternet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's neveraccomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,sharelong60@... wrote
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
Yes, it suddenly occurred to me recently, how Maharishi's plan would unfold: Naturally, and very completely, as these young enlightened souls rise to power and influence. When we were born, those of us 50 and up, the world was caught in a tamasic-rajasic cycle, with so many groups of people on earth, and the leaders absolutely blind to their needs. Now we are fully in the rajasic cycle - everything is available, to everybody. No more secrets. Empowerment of the masses. Those who maintained power, through force, secrecy, and lies, are now being exposed. Social media shines the light everywhere. Tamas cannot grow into Sattva, without this rajasic transformation. The meditators of the world are taking the necessary steps, so that this whirlwind of knowledge always takes an upward direction, towards sattva. By contrast, those who denigrate this world shift, are finding life increasingly difficult, as the foremost example, here on FFL, clearly demonstrates. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's an incredible transformation going on. The negative souls seems to have a harder time actually reincarnating whereas since 1977 the doors for more evolved souls are now wide open. These bright souls seems now to be everywhere, it's beautiful beyond words. It's also a caution to those now dwelling in the negative here on FFL; change immediately or face problems having another body in a long while. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future. We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for the better.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
Very cool, Fleetwood, I really enjoy the three gunas perspective on all this,
makes sense.
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
Yes, it suddenly occurred to me recently, how Maharishi's plan would
unfold: Naturally, and very completely, as these young enlightened souls rise
to power and influence. When we were born, those of us 50 and up, the world was
caught in a tamasic-rajasic cycle, with so many groups of people on earth, and
the leaders absolutely blind to their needs. Now we are fully in the rajasic
cycle - everything is available, to everybody. No more secrets. Empowerment of
the masses. Those who maintained power, through force, secrecy, and lies, are
now being exposed. Social media shines the light everywhere. Tamas cannot grow
into Sattva, without this rajasic transformation. The meditators of the world
are taking the necessary steps, so that this whirlwind of knowledge always
takes an upward direction, towards sattva. By contrast, those who denigrate
this world shift, are finding life increasingly difficult, as the foremost
example, here on FFL, clearly demonstrates.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
It's an incredible transformation going on. The negative souls seems to have a
harder time actually reincarnating whereas since 1977 the doors for more
evolved souls are now wide open. These bright souls seems now to be
everywhere, it's beautiful beyond words.It's also a caution to those now
dwelling in the negative here on FFL; change immediately or face problems
having another body in a long while.The future of mankind is bright, and that
is our delight.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who
have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in
this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They
don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to
their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in
something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future.
We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the
fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of
years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened
one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
Yes, Maharishi had the vision to revolutionize the world, based on the principle of know thyself, first. Once he developed a technique, available to anyone, and taught by anyone, the rest has been ordained; Well begun is half done. A wonderful experience, to watch first hand, the unfolding of the birth of the age of enlightenment, in this generation. Jai Guru Dev. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Very cool, Fleetwood, I really enjoy the three gunas perspective on all this, makes sense. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation Yes, it suddenly occurred to me recently, how Maharishi's plan would unfold: Naturally, and very completely, as these young enlightened souls rise to power and influence. When we were born, those of us 50 and up, the world was caught in a tamasic-rajasic cycle, with so many groups of people on earth, and the leaders absolutely blind to their needs. Now we are fully in the rajasic cycle - everything is available, to everybody. No more secrets. Empowerment of the masses. Those who maintained power, through force, secrecy, and lies, are now being exposed. Social media shines the light everywhere. Tamas cannot grow into Sattva, without this rajasic transformation. The meditators of the world are taking the necessary steps, so that this whirlwind of knowledge always takes an upward direction, towards sattva. By contrast, those who denigrate this world shift, are finding life increasingly difficult, as the foremost example, here on FFL, clearly demonstrates. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's an incredible transformation going on. The negative souls seems to have a harder time actually reincarnating whereas since 1977 the doors for more evolved souls are now wide open. These bright souls seems now to be everywhere, it's beautiful beyond words. It's also a caution to those now dwelling in the negative here on FFL; change immediately or face problems having another body in a long while. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future. We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for the better.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Thanks, Richard, I guess I lost track of who got put into Folders. Anyway, in revolt, and as a *spiritual* practice LOL, I'm aiming to read EVERY SINGLE FFL POST from now on. It seems kind of dumb to me to avoid reading certain posters. Except for that bit about taking on someone else's karma...hmmm, it's a conundrum. May have to rethink my strategy. Will report later (-: From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/22/2014 6:34 AM, Share Long wrote: turq, huh?! How can Richard stalk and abuse you if you put his posts in a Folder and instruct your Folder Secretary to not show them to you? Barry actually didn't say he filtered my messages into a folder, Share - he said he kill-filed me, meaning he doesn't even see them unless they are included in another reply. He doesn't take criticism very well - maybe he is scared. He is a complicated character to figure out. He probably hates me now for exposing his deep cognitive dissonance, but he did ask for feedback and invited us to read his Rama web site. ! And fyi, I would miss Richard if he wasn't here and I bet there are others who feel the same. And I hope you can be more at peace with your emotions about Richard. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists
[FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head
Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head. (Really.) http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your he... http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob It sounds crazy, but it extends its range just a little bit. View on www.vox.com http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob Preview by Yahoo Turn your brain into an antenna, by holding your key fob close to your head...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Wow, turq! A new low for FFL...
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out.
But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after
killing them.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Yep. We have all moved on with our lives. But Barry cozied up to a sociopath, and has not yet recovered. So as the rest of us make our way, sharing our successes, regarding career, family, and friends, all this putz can do, is slump down in his seat, uncork a bottle, and shout fuck you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Wow, turq! A new low for FFL... From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
salyavin, it's so interesting what you say about without fear we might not act. For some time now I've been noticing that my usual impulses for taking action aren't operating. So what is making me act? I gotta go with pure life force.But it definitely takes some getting used to! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ideally religion is, as you say, a thing of the heart. But I think it's often a thing of the reptillian brain, fear based. So the primary question becomes: how can people develop beyond their fear. I have high hopes that neuroscience will have some practical answers for us. I think we might be stuck with our brains as they have evolved. Just think what changing something like the adrenal gland might do, we'd be less fearful at times but we'd lose all our drive to get out and do stuff. It's such a well evolved system, trouble is it hasn't changed since we started talking and farming and playing on the internet. That's the trouble with sorting it out medically, it's all so enmeshed, we are aware of and ruled by emotions and also have a higher thinking brain that can override them a bit at times. Life without any of it might be too weird to imagine, but I'd like to try any drugs they develop that could separate our different levels from each other. That'd be cool, Spock one minute and Captain Caveman the next! And all the way back to the stimulus/response of the earliest chordates. My sort of experiment, I volunteer as of now. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ok, if it doesn't matter whether or not there's a God, then a genuinely interesting question is: why do people go on and on about it? What is really going on in all these supposedly intellectual conversations? What are people really attempting to accomplish by such posts and exchanges? I'll have a go at answering that one. It doesn't really matter what people believe as everyone usually just gets on with everyone else, nobody really judges people on what they believe - how they behave is the important thing. After 9/11 Richard Dawkins thought that maybe it was time that we all sat down and had a good long metaphysical look at ourselves and whether we should be abandoning old ways of thinking if they are going to lead to fundamentalism and skewed morals and all the endless hideous stories we hear from round the world about FGM and witchcraft trials and the pathetic excuses made by successive popes about institutional child abuse. And that's not even mentioning the mental pollution of religious schools filling young brains with unproven rubbish. It's time for a change perhaps, the idea is that we can perhaps decide a rational way of ordering societies and how to educate children with the baggage of iron age superstitions.Maybe we, as a race, could grow out of backward thinking, blind faith and gullibility. Maybe we'd just be better off without all the mistakes of the past holding us back, surely we can do better than relying on so-called received knowledge from iron age gods? I think it's been a great debate and long may it continue, anything that makes people think about themselves is a good thing. Shame nothing has changed really, but the cards are on the table and maybe the mad fundies will start to question themselves if more people question them? I doubt it, they all seem to be getting more entrenched. The trouble I see is that you can't reason somebody out of something they weren't reasoned into. Dawkins thought that religion was like any other system of thought, that it will be replaced by a logically superior one if it came along. But religion is deeper than that, it's a thing of the heart and not of the brain. Especially if you are brought up in a faith, it's like the first language you learn, an intractable part of how your brain works and the first thing you'll turn to. It's an emotion that we try to justify intellectually. I think it's good to provide alternatives in case people discover they like asking questions and don't mind where the answers take them. It's just shame that atheism offers no afterlife in paradise to make up for the biggest draw religions have! That's probably what stops a lot of potential converts. Darwin should have thought of that. But he still wouldn't fool anyone because if you care about knowledge you still have to follow where the discovery of objective knowledge takes you. Or you stay with your beliefs like most people do. Or
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever. Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. Yes, but you also get mad cow disease from, er, cows and plenty of people eat those, although I give them a miss. I prefer to see them alive and eating grass or nursing their calves. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? I'd have to say, any argument for cannibalism, other than if you were, perhaps, starving on a mountainside after your plane had crashed in the freezing cold and your dinner was already dead, pretty much couldn't convince me it was a good thing to do for a whole lot of reasons. Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) I think we should organise one, be fascinating to see what everyone is really like and if we mix like sociable humans or gather into predictable corners or start fighting over whether Erich Von Daniken is a better scientist than John Hagelin. And I'd sit down for a pint with Judy any day! But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. I suspect everyone will be as curious as me to find out what he's really like, he plays his cards so close to his chest it's hard to see the humanity beneath. Or maybe he really does only speak in one sentence missives with a go figure at the end. Perhaps it's a Texan thing we didn't know about? Actually, he stole Go figure from me. He read it in Road Trip Mind and has been using it ever since. Some Urban Slang defs of go figure: 3 http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300winname=addthispub=ra-50dc926d011f6845source=tbx-300lng=en-USs=twitterurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgo-figure.urbanup.com%2F7367749title=Urban%20Dictionary%3A%20Go%20figure http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300winname=addthispub=ra-50dc926d011f6845source=tbx-300lng=en-USs=facebookurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgo-figure.urbanup.com%2F7367749title=Urban%20Dictionary%3A%20Go%20figure http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300winname=addthispub=ra-50dc926d011f6845source=tbx-300lng=en-USurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgo-figure.urbanup.com%2F7367749title=Urban%20Dictionary%3A%20Go%20figure http://www.urbandictionary.com/favorites.form.php?defid=7367749 Go figure http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Go%20figuredefid=7367749 A slang phrase used only in the United States of America, short for go and figure that out. It is typically only used in speech, and is an attempt to ridicule the previous thing they said. In fact, all it does is indicate that the person is both ignorant and stupid. Go figure http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Go%20figuredefid=3672024 A saying used when something happens that you might have expected, but you have absolutely nothing original or intelligent to say. Generally used by idiots with IQs below 85, who just want to hear them selves talk, and build thier own unfounded egos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily
available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by
writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain
diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that
system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something?
With a heavy metal chaser.
Now that we know that Nabby idolizes those who practice cannibalism, does this
mean that we should look askance at him shilling for the aliens he calls the
Space Brothers? Could he just be their advance man, trying to talk people
into trusting them so that the aliens can eat them? Perhaps the real reason
that Nabby and Benjamin Creme are so taken with these Space Brothers is that
they've been promised some leftovers.
Images from Nabby's childhood, or his dreams? Curious minds want to know...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?
Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I
said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain
diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided
even if it's only your health you care about.
I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder
about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds
these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect
the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become
obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and
very early on in society. Is India that different?
Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole
last night. God I'm going to miss her
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he
found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded
people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it
would broaden your vision.
It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which
there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast
majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of
it.
If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the
other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you
braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe
psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start
regretting it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out.
But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published
Of course the don't see it T Kinnes - the Movement became all about Marshy's
supremacy and therefore TM being supreme since Marshy was the original TM
teacher.
Not to mention the fact that no one in the Movement claimed that Guru Dev ever
had the awareness to cognize the full value of natural law in ALL the veda
like the claim Marshy did.
Ergo, the Movement considers Marshy superior to Guru Dev, even tho they would
never admit it. Plus the Movement really doesn't give a damn about guru Dev -
they only care about things that make money for themselves.
From: Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:17 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are
waiting to be published
Hi
I have been informed in another group that there are about a thousand
discourses by Guru Dev in Hindi. Some have been published in English, but most
have not.
It has been stated by author Paul Mason that Maharishi owed most of his core
ideas to Guru Dev. Maharishi also published a series of Guru Dev renderings.
It would be very good if TM-ers made it clear to TM leaders that here lies an
opportunity to promote a lot more from Guru Dev, who is the originator of TM,
the one honoured during the TM initiation, and the one that Maharishi said this
of: He made me.
Guidance fit for folks - doesn't the TM movement see it?
Compare:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shankaracharya_Swami_Brahmanand_Ji/info
Regards,--
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward?
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who
just finished berating JR for an apology.
Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Nappy doesn't give a damn about any of that - anyone who claims to be a holy
man and does weird shit is aces in Nappy's book - maybe the same book he has on
his shelf right next to his well worn copies of Mein Kampf and Marshy's Gita
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily
available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by
writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain
diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that
system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?
Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I
said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain
diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided
even if it's only your health you care about.
I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder
about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds
these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect
the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become
obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and
very early on in society. Is India that different?
Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole
last night. God I'm going to miss her
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he
found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded
people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it
would broaden your vision.
It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which
there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast
majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of
it.
If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the
other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you
braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe
psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start
regretting it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out.
But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Unlikely we would get anything out of Willy Tex - he would most likely spend the reunion sitting off to himself and mumbling about buddhist stupas. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) I think we should organise one, be fascinating to see what everyone is really like and if we mix like sociable humans or gather into predictable corners or start fighting over whether Erich Von Daniken is a better scientist than John Hagelin. And I'd sit down for a pint with Judy any day! But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. I suspect everyone will be as curious as me to find out what he's really like, he plays his cards so close to his chest it's hard to see the humanity beneath. Or maybe he really does only speak in one sentence missives with a go figure at the end. Perhaps it's a Texan thing we didn't know about? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM,fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyonelaughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, onthe subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there issomething that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all theshit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables areturned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around theinternet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's neveraccomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turqone on one. But I really don't like it when the piling onand
[FairfieldLife] Woah! Hold everything...
Maitreya is a chick? A meeting With The Feminine Christ - Maitreya Miranda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI A meeting With The Feminine Christ - Maitreya Miranda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI Excuse any editing issues that may happy my old computer took over 8 hours to complete this video, if I'd kept quality at top level then I would still be wai... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI Preview by Yahoo I have no idea why this popped up as a suggested video in my Youtube feed, clearly Google are spying on me in some way. Still, it's nice to know that Nabby was right and Maitreya is a highly credible spiritual person even if she does do that same high pitched lilt at the end of sentences like John Hagelin that made me think even he doesn't believe what he's talking about. Maybe giving the impression that you are bullshitting is the long sought after correlation of enlightenment?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Nabby's probably planning to eat me.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward?
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who
just finished berating JR for an apology.
Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Woah! Hold everything...
God damn - I felt sick when I saw this crap - what a liar and fraud - take a
look at her website - she no longer goes by the name Maitreya Miranda.
Interesting to look at her services page - looks like the incarnation of
Maitreya would have more to offer than tarot readings.
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Woah! Hold everything...
Maitreya is a chick?
A meeting With The Feminine Christ - Maitreya Miranda
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Miranda Excuse any editing issues that may happy my old computer took over 8
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I have no idea why this popped up as a suggested video in my Youtube feed,
clearly Google are spying on me in some way.
Still, it's nice to know that Nabby was right and Maitreya is a highly credible
spiritual person even if she does do that same high pitched lilt at the end of
sentences like John Hagelin that made me think even he doesn't believe what
he's talking about.
Maybe giving the impression that you are bullshitting is the long sought after
correlation of enlightenment?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, it's so interesting what you say about without fear we might not act. For some time now I've been noticing that my usual impulses for taking action aren't operating. So what is making me act? I gotta go with pure life force. But it definitely takes some getting used to! I could have explained that better. The adrenal gland controls the fight/flight mechanism - or rather the rest of the brain controls it by learning how to respond and repeating that next time the stimulus appears. It's how anxiety states grow, if we are anxious about something and then go to a different place before the adrenaline has died down, we will associate that place with anxiety so that next time we go we may start feeling jumpy without knowing why. It only takes two traumatic experiences to set up a neural network that will trigger next time you are in the same situation. Here's the clever bit, your brain likes to help you out and set up states of mind that it thinks you want. The part of the brain that does this doesn't have any opinion on whether you consciously like something it just puts you in the state you were in last time you were in in that situation. Anxiety, confidence, whatever. So maybe some automatic process is shifting inside that makes you feel like you don't act in the same way because you are more or less worried or pissed off at the moment. Most of what goes on in our heads is unconscious and picking out what affected you and how in your past can be a major job but can be essential self knowledge if you ever have the feeling that something within you is holding you back. Does that make any sense?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Woah! Hold everything...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : God damn - I felt sick when I saw this crap - what a liar and fraud - take a look at her website - she no longer goes by the name Maitreya Miranda. I think she's great! She's got the patter down perfect. It just goes to show that anyone could do it. And she lives in Glastonbury, which must be bad for her career because everyone there is a Tarot reading, reincarnation of some saint or other. But now the Maitreya name is up for nominations I'm sure Nabby will relax as Mr Creme always described him as a he. Maybe there were copyright issues? Interesting to look at her services page - looks like the incarnation of Maitreya would have more to offer than tarot readings. Ascended Avalon http://www.ascendedavalon.com/#!daganach/c1enr http://www.ascendedavalon.com/#!daganach/c1enr Ascended Avalon http://www.ascendedavalon.com/#!daganach/c1enr Official website of Daganac'h, formerly Maitreya Miranda*, Divine Feminine / Feminine Christ View on www.ascendedavalon... http://www.ascendedavalon.com/#!daganach/c1enr Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Woah! Hold everything... Maitreya is a chick? A meeting With The Feminine Christ - Maitreya Miranda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI A meeting With The Feminine Christ - Maitreya Miranda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI Excuse any editing issues that may happy my old computer took over 8 hours to complete this video, if I'd kept quality at top level then I would still be wai... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptbioEqWOI Preview by Yahoo I have no idea why this popped up as a suggested video in my Youtube feed, clearly Google are spying on me in some way. Still, it's nice to know that Nabby was right and Maitreya is a highly credible spiritual person even if she does do that same high pitched lilt at the end of sentences like John Hagelin that made me think even he doesn't believe what he's talking about. Maybe giving the impression that you are bullshitting is the long sought after correlation of enlightenment?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Sounds great Share! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, it's so interesting what you say about without fear we might not act. For some time now I've been noticing that my usual impulses for taking action aren't operating. So what is making me act? I gotta go with pure life force. But it definitely takes some getting used to!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head
People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with their weirdest ideas. If there is a future it's going to be VERY, VERY weird. Just think what a nicer world this would be if people didn't have to worry about making money. On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head. (Really.) http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob image http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your he... http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob It sounds crazy, but it extends its range just a little bit. View on www.vox.com http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob Preview by Yahoo Turn your brain into an antenna, by holding your key fob close to your head...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head
Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I now live in, was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000 years - no inter-tribal warfare, and absolute respect for territorial boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived entirely off the land. I like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that would happen, without monetary rewards. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with their weirdest ideas. If there is a future it's going to be VERY, VERY weird. Just think what a nicer world this would be if people didn't have to worry about making money. On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head. (Really.) Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your he... It sounds crazy, but it extends its range just a little bit. View on www.vox.com Preview by Yahoo Turn your brain into an antenna, by holding your key fob close to your head...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
Share, that is brilliant! Barry probably won't get it, but you just undressed him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear *dear * turq, hopefully you see the irony of your first sentence! Otherwise we are doomed doomed doomed! MAYBE when you admit you were wrong about CS series, I will admit my total wrongness. MAYBE... From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! I only repeated what I was told by Marci Shimoff that one and only time I met her, that the Chicken Soup of the Whatever books started in Fairfield. That *could* possibly be wrong, of course, since YOU have established that she's willing to lie about other things, such as being the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time. But you did it again. You dodged and weaved and did anything but admit the obvious -- that you passed along a lie, AND, when called on it, have consistently refused to admit that it was a lie. What IS it about people like you and JohnR...so terrified of admitting that you fucked up? From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! turq, nay I am not upset. I am DEVASTATED! BUT... I'll admit being wrong after you do, LOL! PS what does it mean when peeps put * around words? Very sexy (-: From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Dream on. Nobody is planning to do anything, with you, or to you. Such a Walter Mitty type, aren't you? You live in your little room, watching TV, and build empty fantasies about how interested we are in you. Nothing could be further from the truth, Barry. You get attention, by being an asshole. No one gives a damn about you, otherwise. Get used to it. We'll still be posting here when you are dead, with no one giving you a second thought. The really creepy bit, as Edg, Emily, Steve, Judy, Sal, Richard, Nabby, Share, Dr. Pete, Rick, Alex, Bhairitu, Ann, Bob, Robin, Rory, and many, many others have already noted, is that you know you are broken, you know you aren't enlightened, you know your social skills are anti-social, you know all this doesn't help one bit, and yet you just can't help yourself. You are One Sick Monkey, dude. Perhaps reliving the glory days with Freddie will help...now, run along and fantasize some more - you are SO good at it! :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Nabby's probably planning to eat me. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Re I also happen to love the smell of frankincense: The reign of Antichrist is near! Frankincense - a traditional staple of the Christmas story - faces an uncertain future, according to researchers. Ecologists have warned that the production of the fragrant resin could decline by half over the next 15 years. The festive fragrance is produced by tapping the gum of trees in the Boswellia genus.The forests that remain are declining because the old individuals are dying continuously, and there there no new individuals coming into the system. That means that the forests are running out of trees. In places like Oman and Yemen, it is being cut down systematically. Now, in Ethiopia, it is being cut down as land is being turned over to agriculture. If the Second Coming, er, comes, maybe Jesus will accept a gift card from Walmart as an alternative? http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-16270759 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-16270759 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re But every so often, it's probably good to present the point of view of a more balanced atheist.: This Cephus is just setting up a straw man; then knocking him down and feeling pleased with himself. Just take a look at Richard Dawkins debating with the (former) Archbishop of Canterbury at Oxford University. You may or may not think that Dawkins has the better of Rowan Williams but Williams is clearly *not* stupid and doesn't employ any of the ten statements that Cephus castigates. One issue that strikes me about the difference between Barry and myself is that he's American; I'm English. And what kind of difference would that be? Well, in the USA, religion (including fundamentalist versions) is big - indeed it's big business. In the UK, religion is now marginal. It conjures up images of well-meaning but ineffectual Anglican vicars with little input into current societal changes. To me religion is harmless - rather sweet perhaps. To Barry the mention of religion triggers memories of some unresolved trauma from his childhood or adolescence. To Barry it's all about visceral emotion; to me it's all about sweet reason and nuanced reflection. Nice one. I too can view religion with a bit of an outsider's objectivity and don't particularly condemn those who embrace some form of it nor do I run out myself to Sunday mass or Buddhist prayer. There is a lot of aesthetic tradition in some of the older religions. There is a great deal of beauty in the structures erected in the name of glorifying God. The artwork alone is worth much of the counterproductive aspects of religion. It can not quite equal the murder and mayhem done in the name of religion throughout the ages but there is also the other 'up' side. The up side being anyone who takes the time and the trouble to seek a little deeper and learn a little more beyond what they can measure with a ruler or scale or see and hear and touch can be transported into mysteries worth investigating. I also happen to love the smell of frankincense and watching ritual and listening to Evensong in the candlelit mustiness of old churches. Here's Dawkins/Williams in civilized debate . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2f5TA2nCs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2f5TA2nCs
