RE: Structured Book imported to FM 8 fails to Distill to PDF w/Acrobat 8

[Ridder, Fred]

I think you mean turn the Tagged PDF option OFF rather than on.
Or at least that was the case for Acrobat 6 and 7, where the 
tagged PDF option seemed to cause distiller to crash on specific
documents for many users.

And it may help to have Val tell us what method is being used
to create the PDF. Save As PDF? Print to Adobe PDF virtual 
printer instance? Print to file and distill separately (either manually
or via a watched folder)? And whether any of the other methods 
work, or whether all methods fail.

It might also be useful to know whether Val is using the Standard
or Professional version of Acrobat 8.0.  Or is this the Distiller-only
installation that would have been installed with FM 8.0?  

And one other quick thing to try is rebooting. Over the years there
have been many cases where odd Distiller behavior (generating 
very small or very large pages, or generating PDFs with missing
characters, for example) was remedied by simply shutting down
and restarting the computer. 

-Fred Ridder

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Structured Book imported to FM 8 fails to Distill to PDF
w/Acrobat 8

A couple ideas for you to kick around:

First, there is a patch release for Acrobat out, from 8 to 8.1... may
want to check the status of that.

Second, are you getting any log files from the distiller process that
may contain error information.

Third, check to make sure that the Acrobat distiller is your default
printer.

Are you opening all the component chapter files before distiling?

There have been a couple threads on other lists that mention turning
On the Create Tagged PDF option seems to improve things

Cheers,
Art

On 8/24/07, Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The book was created using the FM-Dita Book map, with FM-DITA Topic
files.
 The book distilled without incident using FM 7.2 files and the Adobe
Acrobat
 8 Distiller. Now, the book does not distill, and no group of files
will
 distill into PDF.

 In case the problem had something to do with distilling the book,
which was
 created and has been successfully maintained for six months in FM 7.2,
in FM
 8, I created a new book in FM 8 and added the files to it. I have been
 editing the files in FM 8 for two weeks without problems.

 In trying different was to skin this cat, I've noticed that I can
distill
 all of the 19 files contained in the book individually. This includes
the
 generated files (TOC and Index); the Acrobat data (bookmarks,
 cross-references, etc.) also generates into the PDF files
successfully. But
 each time I try to distill the book or any two or more files together,
with
 or without the Acrobat Data, Distiller flushes the job.

 In the past (FM 6 days), whenever I had this kind of problem, I could
narrow
 down the offending file by distilling different documents until I
found the
 snag, and then recreate the corrupted file to eliminate whatever was
causing
 Acrobat Distiller to choke.

 This time nothing I've tried seems to work, and the fact that I can
distill
 every file individually makes me think that the problem has something
to do
 with trying to distill multiple documents in one job. When I try ro
distill
 different sets of documents, all of the log files from Distiller looks
 unlike any other.

 I haven't contacted Adobe Tech Support yet, in case there is something
I
 should try that I haven't.

 I'd be grateful for any suggestions, up to and including reinstalling
the
 software (Acrobat or Frame), which I haven't done yet, if it seems
like
 something that could help.

 Thanks in advance,

 Val

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Structured Book imported to FM 8 fails to Distill to PDF w/Acrobat 8

[Ridder, Fred]

I think you mean turn the Tagged PDF option OFF rather than on.
Or at least that was the case for Acrobat 6 and 7, where the 
tagged PDF option seemed to cause distiller to crash on specific
documents for many users.

And it may help to have Val tell us what method is being used
to create the PDF. Save As PDF? Print to Adobe PDF virtual 
printer instance? Print to file and distill separately (either manually
or via a watched folder)? And whether any of the other methods 
work, or whether all methods fail.

It might also be useful to know whether Val is using the Standard
or Professional version of Acrobat 8.0.  Or is this the Distiller-only
installation that would have been installed with FM 8.0?  

And one other quick thing to try is rebooting. Over the years there
have been many cases where odd Distiller behavior (generating 
very small or very large pages, or generating PDFs with missing
characters, for example) was remedied by simply shutting down
and restarting the computer. 

-Fred Ridder

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:01 AM
To: vallipow at aol.com
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Structured Book imported to FM 8 fails to Distill to PDF
w/Acrobat 8

A couple ideas for you to kick around:

First, there is a patch release for Acrobat out, from 8 to 8.1... may
want to check the status of that.

Second, are you getting any log files from the distiller process that
may contain error information.

Third, check to make sure that the Acrobat distiller is your default
printer.

Are you opening all the component chapter files before distiling?

There have been a couple threads on other lists that mention turning
On the Create Tagged PDF option seems to improve things

Cheers,
Art

On 8/24/07, Valerie Lipow  wrote:
> The book was created using the FM-Dita Book map, with FM-DITA Topic
files.
> The book distilled without incident using FM 7.2 files and the Adobe
Acrobat
> 8 Distiller. Now, the book does not distill, and no group of files
will
> distill into PDF.
>
> In case the problem had something to do with distilling the book,
which was
> created and has been successfully maintained for six months in FM 7.2,
in FM
> 8, I created a new book in FM 8 and added the files to it. I have been
> editing the files in FM 8 for two weeks without problems.
>
> In trying different was to skin this cat, I've noticed that I can
distill
> all of the 19 files contained in the book individually. This includes
the
> generated files (TOC and Index); the Acrobat data (bookmarks,
> cross-references, etc.) also generates into the PDF files
successfully. But
> each time I try to distill the book or any two or more files together,
with
> or without the Acrobat Data, Distiller flushes the job.
>
> In the past (FM 6 days), whenever I had this kind of problem, I could
narrow
> down the offending file by distilling different documents until I
found the
> snag, and then recreate the corrupted file to eliminate whatever was
causing
> Acrobat Distiller to choke.
>
> This time nothing I've tried seems to work, and the fact that I can
distill
> every file individually makes me think that the problem has something
to do
> with trying to distill multiple documents in one job. When I try ro
distill
> different sets of documents, all of the log files from Distiller looks
> unlike any other.
>
> I haven't contacted Adobe Tech Support yet, in case there is something
I
> should try that I haven't.
>
> I'd be grateful for any suggestions, up to and including reinstalling
the
> software (Acrobat or Frame), which I haven't done yet, if it seems
like
> something that could help.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Val
>
> --
> Valerie Lipow
> vallipow at gmail.com
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RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

[Ridder, Fred]

Umpteen years???  It's barely been two years since 7.2 (although
I'll admit that it has been about 5 years since 7.0 as the last major 
version release).

And IMO FM8.0 includes several pretty major new features and
capabilities, although from your perspective it may be easy to 
dismiss them as it's about time features or things that don't 
matter to you. In addition to Unicode support, both revision tracking 
and the improvements to conditional text (Boolean expressions 
for show/hide settings and better indications for overlapping 
conditions) are big features that would have involved a lot of 
development and testing effort. Yes, many of us have been 
asking for these features for years, but seeing Adobe investing 
resources to actually implement them in an application that 
all the tea-leaf readers were proclaiming as a dead product 
3 or 4 years ago is very heartening.

Just my opinion...
Fred Ridder


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alison Carrico
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

In my business (document/software translation/localization), the Unicode
support alone is worth the price of admission several times over. I was
as giddy as a schoolgirl when I printed a Russian doc to PDF  all the
bookmarks came out perfectly.  I've been using TimeSavers in 7.1 and,
while it is a huge help, there are characters in several languages that
do not convert correctly, requiring tedious copy/pasting to correct.
I'm working with the trial version until Purchasing gets the upgrade
ordered, and we'll recommend upgrading to several of our clients.  

BUT... it really is disappointing to see relatively few real
innovations. IMO, a lot of the new features warrant only an It's about
time, not Wow, cool!  Makes me wonder what the Frame engineers at
Adobe have been doing for the umpteen years between 7.2  this version.


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.com] On Behalf Of Sarah O'Keefe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here:

http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impress
ions.html

Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review
itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has
screen shots and PDF links).

Regards,

Sarah O'Keefe
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first impressions of FrameMaker 8

[Ridder, Fred]

"Umpteen years"???  It's barely been two years since 7.2 (although
I'll admit that it has been about 5 years since 7.0 as the last major 
version release).

And IMO FM8.0 includes several pretty major new features and
capabilities, although from your perspective it may be easy to 
dismiss them as "it's about time" features or things that don't 
matter to you. In addition to Unicode support, both revision tracking 
and the improvements to conditional text (Boolean expressions 
for show/hide settings and better indications for overlapping 
conditions) are big features that would have involved a lot of 
development and testing effort. Yes, many of us have been 
asking for these features for years, but seeing Adobe investing 
resources to actually implement them in an application that 
all the tea-leaf readers were proclaiming as a dead product 
3 or 4 years ago is very heartening.

Just my opinion...
Fred Ridder


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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Alison Carrico
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:00 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

In my business (document/software translation/localization), the Unicode
support alone is worth the price of admission several times over. I was
as giddy as a schoolgirl when I printed a Russian doc to PDF & all the
bookmarks came out perfectly.  I've been using TimeSavers in 7.1 and,
while it is a huge help, there are characters in several languages that
do not convert correctly, requiring tedious copy/pasting to correct.
I'm working with the trial version until Purchasing gets the upgrade
ordered, and we'll recommend upgrading to several of our clients.  

BUT... it really is disappointing to see relatively few real
innovations. IMO, a lot of the new features warrant only an "It's about
time", not "Wow, cool!"  Makes me wonder what the Frame engineers at
Adobe have been doing for the umpteen years between 7.2 & this version.


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[mailto:framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of Sarah O'Keefe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:00 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here:

http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impress
ions.html

Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review
itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has
screen shots and PDF links).

Regards,

Sarah O'Keefe
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RE: Splitting a long table into separate tables in FM 7.2

[Ridder, Fred]

Another approach, which I find to be much faster than copying 
rows and pasting into new tables, is to make multiple copies 
of the entire table and delete the unwanted rows from each 
successive copy. This approach retains the original columns 
widths in each new table, preserves the column heading row, 
and duplicates the table title but with appropriate numbering if 
you are using autonumbering. Other than deleting the rows 
above and below the range you want to use in a given division 
of the table, the only thing you need to do is edit the identical 
titles of each new table to make some differentiation for that 
division of the whole table. 

The only real downside is that when you first make all the copies 
they all look exactly alike (except for the table number) so that 
you have to be careful to keep track of which division of the table 
you're working on as you delete rows. But if you screw up, you 
just have to paste in another copy of the original table and start
over with the row deletions.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ (formerly)


  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:49 PM
To: Harold Winberg; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Splitting a long table into separate tables in FM 7.2

Hi Les,

You can select a range of rows in a table, CUT and choose Remove cells from 
Table ... 
Put your insertion point where you want the cut section of table to become an 
independent table, PASTE.
== after you have pasted table segment, press Ctrl-T to open the Table 
Designer, and on the BASIC tab, change Title Position in lower right corner 
of menu to Above Table. APPLY.
== Note that your table will not have any header rows. If you had header rows 
in the original table, you will need to add header rows to your new table and 
copy/paste the content from the original table to the new table.

To make a table segment (e.g. ROW) start a new page, insert your cursor in the 
ROW where you want a page break, and choose Table=Row Format change Start 
Row menu to top of page and SET. If you need to undo this later, insert your 
cursor in a row that has a start page format in it, and use this same 
command, only change Start Row to Anywhere.

I hope this answers your questions.
 


Maxwell Hoffmann
Manager of Consulting  Training Solutions
ENLASO Corporation
T: 805 494 9571 * F: 805 435 1920
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ♦ ENLASO Corporation provides quality enterprise language 
solutions and exceeds client expectations through continuing research, 
development, and implementation of effective localization processes and 
technologies.  Visit: www.translate.com for more information or to subscribe to 
our complimentary localization newsletter. 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Winberg
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:58 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Splitting a long table into separate tables in FM 7.2

We have some long tables (several pages) in FM 7.2.

 We would like to make separate tables of some of the topics in this long 
 table and put them on separate pages in some places.


How can I do this?? 

How can I give each new table a title?

 How can I move or push a table section to the next page??


Thanks in advance.

 Les Winberg
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Splitting a long table into separate tables in FM 7.2

[Ridder, Fred]

Another approach, which I find to be much faster than copying 
rows and pasting into new tables, is to make multiple copies 
of the entire table and delete the unwanted rows from each 
successive copy. This approach retains the original columns 
widths in each new table, preserves the column heading row, 
and duplicates the table title but with appropriate numbering if 
you are using autonumbering. Other than deleting the rows 
above and below the range you want to use in a given division 
of the table, the only thing you need to do is edit the identical 
titles of each new table to make some differentiation for that 
division of the whole table. 

The only real downside is that when you first make all the copies 
they all look exactly alike (except for the table number) so that 
you have to be careful to keep track of which division of the table 
you're working on as you delete rows. But if you screw up, you 
just have to paste in another copy of the original table and start
over with the row deletions.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ (formerly)




-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:49 PM
To: Harold Winberg; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Splitting a long table into separate tables in FM 7.2

Hi Les,

You can select a range of rows in a table, CUT and choose "Remove cells from 
Table" ... 
Put your insertion point where you want the cut section of table to become an 
independent table, PASTE.
== after you have pasted table segment, press Ctrl-T to open the Table 
Designer, and on the BASIC tab, change "Title Position" in lower right corner 
of menu to "Above Table". APPLY.
== Note that your table will not have any header rows. If you had header rows 
in the original table, you will need to add header rows to your new table and 
copy/paste the content from the original table to the new table.

To make a table segment (e.g. ROW) start a new page, insert your cursor in the 
ROW where you want a page break, and choose Table=>Row Format change "Start 
Row" menu to "top of page" and SET. If you need to undo this later, insert your 
cursor in a row that has a "start page" format in it, and use this same 
command, only change "Start Row" to "Anywhere."

I hope this answers your questions.



Maxwell Hoffmann
Manager of Consulting & Training Solutions
ENLASO Corporation
T: 805 494 9571 * F: 805 435 1920
E: mhoffmann at translate.com ? ENLASO Corporation provides quality enterprise 
language solutions and exceeds client expectations through continuing research, 
development, and implementation of effective localization processes and 
technologies.  Visit: www.translate.com for more information or to subscribe to 
our complimentary localization newsletter. 
http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann

>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces+mhoffmann=translate.com at lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-bounces+mhoffmann=translate.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
>Behalf Of Harold Winberg
>Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:58 AM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Splitting a long table into separate tables in FM 7.2
>
>We have some long tables (several pages) in FM 7.2.
>
> We would like to make separate tables of some of the topics in this long 
> table and put them on separate pages in some places.
>
>
>How can I do this?? 
>
>How can I give each new table a title?
>
> How can I move or push a table section to the next page??
>
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
> Les Winberg

Conditional Text Question

[Ridder, Fred]

The Show/Hide Conditional Text dialog has an option box labeled
"Sow Condition Indicators" just below the "Show" list box. This 
option toggles the color and other (e.g. underlining or strikethrough)
highlighting of all conditions that are set to show. 

As far as archiving product-specific source files, another approach
that has not been mentioned is this one:
-Make a duplicate set of the complete, conditionalized book and
   source files.
-In the duplicate file set, use the Edit Condition Tag command in the
   Conditional Text dialog to delete each of the condition tags that
   relate to the other versions of the product. Each time you invoke
   the command for a condition that is actually in use in the file,
   you'll get a dialog that asks you whether you wish to make the
   tagged text unconditional or delete the text. Since the tags you
   are deleting relate to other product versions, choose the delete
   option.
-If you want to get serious, repeat the preceding step for the 
   conditions that are specific to the current version of the product,
   but choose the "make unconditional" option.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Staff Information Services Analyst
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Sam Beard
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:17 AM
To: Frame User's Group
Cc: richard.combs at polycom.com; elebelle at gmail.com
Subject: RE: Conditional Text Question


All,

   Thanks much for the help on this issue, but I need to clarify a few
things. First, I'm aware of the purpose of using conditional text, which
is what helped me to get this job. However, I have no real choice as to
having three separate files (my second point), because of our
documentation control system. We number our documents with a one-up
system, including the month/year as the last four parts of an
eight-digit number. If these documents were for a new product line, we
MIGHT be able to get away with putting them into a single number.
However, they are for two separate but similar product lines. The first
one is 1950 while the second one is 2158. Therefore, I have to maintain
having three separate books for each document, hiding and viewing the
appropriate conditional text and saving it to the appropriate folder on
our system. Unless someone has an idea about how to get around that,
then that's the way it is here. Before I started here, the documents
were COMPLETELY maintained as two separate books, even though there was
a LOT of cross-over text between them. Obviously, this made updating
them much more of a challenge and they are actually out of step with
each other by one version. I'm not sure that's something that will
change, either. I'll probably have to use a variable or something else
to indicate the version numbers of the two and conditionalize that, as
well.
   I believe everyone that responded mentioned hiding the conditional
text indicators, so I'll need to check into how to change that. I wasn't
aware of how to change that, which is why I posted my question. So,
thanks to all of you for the tips on that. I'll see if I can determine
how to hide the indicators.
   Thanks again and have a great day!

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
Technical Writer
OI Analytical
979 690-1711 Ext. 222
sbeard at oico.com


-Original Message-
From: Miriam Lezak [mailto:mle...@marzak.org] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:01 PM
To: Sam Beard
Cc: Frame User's Group
Subject: Re: Conditional Text Question

Sam:

If you conditionalize the whole row, that row should disappear when you
turn 
the condition off. The colored borders indicate that you've correctly 
conditionalized it (rather than just conditionalizing the text within
the 
border).

If that doesn't make sense, let me know.

Miriam


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From: "Sam Beard" <sbe...@oico.com>
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Conditional Text Question


Hello All,



   I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate between two
different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this,
there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a
LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them
into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text,
hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the
two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the
book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I
also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 1's text is
hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently
remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while
maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do this is

RE: Help cross-referencing two autonumbered series

[Ridder, Fred]

According to the FrameMaker documentation, there is a building
block for cross-references that is of the form $paranum[paratag],
which is specifically designed for this kind of situation. This building
block will pick up the numbering of the last preceding paragraph 
that is tagged with the paratag tag. If you add this building block
to your x-ref format (substituting the actual tag name of your parent 
step, of course) you should be home free.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Help cross-referencing two autonumbered series

Hello all,

Does anyone know how (or if) you can make a cross-reference when two or
more autonumbered series are used?

For example: I want the cross reference to read: 
see Step2c on page 9
I had been using see Step c on page 9 (for example this is formatted:
Step $paranumonly\ on page $pagenum) or Step 2 on page 9, but I need
to consolidate in one cross reference. Can anyone help? I am using the
following autonumbering formats in my paragraph designer. 

You'll see I use two different letters for the two different numbered
series.
For the parent (Step2 in this case)
D:Step n+

For the child (c. in this case)
T:a+.\t

Thanks,
James
 
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Help cross-referencing two autonumbered series

[Ridder, Fred]

According to the FrameMaker documentation, there is a building
block for cross-references that is of the form <$paranum[paratag]>,
which is specifically designed for this kind of situation. This building
block will pick up the numbering of the last preceding paragraph 
that is tagged with the "paratag" tag. If you add this building block
to your x-ref format (substituting the actual tag name of your parent 
step, of course) you should be home free.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of James Dyson
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:02 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Help cross-referencing two autonumbered series

Hello all,

Does anyone know how (or if) you can make a cross-reference when two or
more autonumbered series are used?

For example: I want the cross reference to read: 
see Step2c on page 9
I had been using see Step c on page 9 (for example this is formatted:
Step <$paranumonly>\ on page <$pagenum>) or Step 2 on page 9, but I need
to consolidate in one cross reference. Can anyone help? I am using the
following autonumbering formats in my paragraph designer. 

You'll see I use two different letters for the two different numbered
series.
For the parent (Step2 in this case)
D:Step <n+>

For the child (c. in this case)
T:<a+>.\t

Thanks,
James

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RE: BookName Variable Doesn't Appear in Xrefs

[Ridder, Fred]

Cross-references can only display content that falls into three 
or four general categories:
--text from the paragraph where the cross-reference marker is
   located, via the $paratext building block
--autonumbering associated with the paragraph where the 
   cross-reference marker is located, via the $paranum
   and associated building blocks
--system variables for data such as the page number, chapter
   number, filename, paragraph tag name, etc. via the corresponding
   system-defined building blocks (e.g. $pagenum, $chapnum)
--text that is manually included in definition of a specific cross-
   reference format

There is no provision for directly including user variables in a 
cross-reference.  

I can see two potential workarounds, neither of which I have actually
tested.

1) If you are not using the $volnum system variable for other purposes
you can define it as a text string (rather than a number) to make a 
system variable that contains the book name. Each separate file
can have its own different definition for the $volnum system variable, 
or you can set several files to use the same definition.

2) It should work to place the book name in a hidden paragraph
that is located at the top of each file and that has a special paragraph

tag. I'm not sure I see any good reason why this needs to be in a 
separate text frame as long as it is located on the first body page
(as opposed to a master page). If you use the $paratext[paratag] 
building block in your cross-reference format, replacing paratag 
with the actual name of the special paragraph tag you used for the 
hidden book title paragraph, your cross-reference should pick up
whatever text is contained in the special paragraph (whether or
not it comes from a user variable or is directly entered text). 

Note that in your example, the building block is incorrectly referencing
the name of the user variable (BookName), rather than the tag name of
the 
paragraph that contains the book name (BookTitle). The cross-reference 
doesn't care whether the paragraph contains a user variable; all it
looks 
for is a paragraph that is tagged with the tag name you specify.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:08 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: BookName Variable Doesn't Appear in Xrefs

Hi,

I still can't figure out how to get BookName variable into my xrefs. I
tried
Zoe's solution: I inserted the variable into a text frame, then applied
a
BookTitle para tag. The xref will not display the book name. Here's a
screen
shot:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/aakridge/BookName.png

To begin with, I'm not really sure why I need to put the variable in a
text
frame. I really don't understand how Frame thinks. Do you have any
insight,
or do you know if this topic is covered in Frame documentation?

-- 
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BookName Variable Doesn't Appear in Xrefs

[Ridder, Fred]

Cross-references can only display content that falls into three 
or four general categories:
--text from the paragraph where the cross-reference marker is
   located, via the <$paratext> building block
--autonumbering associated with the paragraph where the 
   cross-reference marker is located, via the <$paranum>
   and associated building blocks
--system variables for data such as the page number, chapter
   number, filename, paragraph tag name, etc. via the corresponding
   system-defined building blocks (e.g. <$pagenum>, <$chapnum>)
--text that is manually included in definition of a specific cross-
   reference format

There is no provision for directly including user variables in a 
cross-reference.  

I can see two potential workarounds, neither of which I have actually
tested.

1) If you are not using the $volnum system variable for other purposes
you can define it as a text string (rather than a number) to make a 
system variable that contains the book name. Each separate file
can have its own different definition for the $volnum system variable, 
or you can set several files to use the same definition.

2) It should work to place the book name in a "hidden" paragraph
that is located at the top of each file and that has a special paragraph

tag. I'm not sure I see any good reason why this needs to be in a 
separate text frame as long as it is located on the first body page
(as opposed to a master page). If you use the <$paratext[paratag]> 
building block in your cross-reference format, replacing "paratag" 
with the actual name of the special paragraph tag you used for the 
hidden book title paragraph, your cross-reference should pick up
whatever text is contained in the special paragraph (whether or
not it comes from a user variable or is directly entered text). 

Note that in your example, the building block is incorrectly referencing
the name of the user variable (BookName), rather than the tag name of
the 
paragraph that contains the book name (BookTitle). The cross-reference 
doesn't care whether the paragraph contains a user variable; all it
looks 
for is a paragraph that is tagged with the tag name you specify.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ




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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Angela Akridge
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:08 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: BookName Variable Doesn't Appear in Xrefs

Hi,

I still can't figure out how to get BookName variable into my xrefs. I
tried
Zoe's solution: I inserted the variable into a text frame, then applied
a
BookTitle para tag. The xref will not display the book name. Here's a
screen
shot:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/aakridge/BookName.png

To begin with, I'm not really sure why I need to put the variable in a
text
frame. I really don't understand how Frame thinks. Do you have any
insight,
or do you know if this topic is covered in Frame documentation?

-- 
Angela Akridge
angela.akridge at gmail.com
408/393-9249 (cell)
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"Save as PDF" problems?

[Ridder, Fred]

The PDF job options that you are being asked for are the 
Distiller job options. If FrameMaker isn't able to find your
installed instance of Distiller, it's a very safe bet that it will never
find a corresponding set of job options. 

Note that although the various sets of job options are defined 
(or modified) from the Distiller UI, with current versions of 
FrameMaker, Distiller, and Windows there are *at least* four 
different places where you can specify a named set of PDF 
job options and it is not at all clear which specification takes 
precedence if there is any disagreement among them. You 
can specify the job options in FrameMaker's PDF Setup
dialog (either on the file level or the book level, with the book
choice presumably overriding the individual file setting). Or 
you can set it in the Adobe PDF Document Properties dialog 
that you get to from FrameMaker's File>Print Setup command. 
Or you can set them from in the Adobe PDF Printing Preferences 
dialog that you get to from the Adobe PDF printer icon Printers 
Faxes item in the Windows Control Panel or the Start menu.
(I think I've seen one or two others preferences dialogs, but 
these are the ones that it is easy to find.) And of course 
there is a place to set them directly in the Distiller UI, but it's
pretty clear that this setting only applies when you explicitly 
distill a PostScript file, which is only one way of creating a PDF. 

If you'll allow me to quote myself, what follows is from a response
I posted to the list back in April:

There are a number of good methods for producing PDFs from
FrameMaker. In order of reliability (according to my own experience), 
they are::

Best: If you have Acrobat Professional, set up one or more 
watched folders. Attach an appropriate set of Distiller job options
to each watched folder. Then use the Adobe PDF printer driver
(important point!) to print your document or book to a 
PostScript file in the "In" folder within one of the watched folders. 
If Distiller is running, it scans the watched folders periodically 
and distills whatever PS files it finds and puts the resulting PDF 
in the "Out" folder.

2nd best: Print the document/book to a PostScript file using 
the Adobe PDF printer driver (again, this is an important point).
Then distill the file manually by opening the PS file from Distiller.
This method lets you see for sure what Distiller job options are
currently selected.

3rd best: Print the document/book to the Adobe PDF virtual 
printer. This creates a PDF directly using whatever Distiller
job options you have set as the default for the Adobe PDF 
printer instance.

4th best: Use Save as PDF. There were some *major* gotchas
in this operation in FrameMaker versions through 5.5.6 (at least).
Adobe *mostly* fixed this function as of FrameMaker 7.x, but 
you're still relying on a lot of separate factors to all be in
agreement. 
This method does so much of  its work "behind the curtain" that 
you simply cannot see in advance whether everything is set up properly. 

So my advice is this: If Save As PDF isn't working for you, use one
of the other, more reliable methods for creating your PDF. The 
differences in speed and convenience are small, and to my way of
thinking a method that works properly every time is worth a lot
more than a minor inconvenience. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Simmons
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:15 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: "Save as PDF" problems? 

Hello fellow Frame users,

I am running FM 7.2. In my current User Manual, I'm hoping to come out
with the second revision (the first was last spring). Unfortunately, my
FM book is giving me grief when I try to do a "Save As PDF." When I try
this, it regenerates the whole book, then promptly gives me the
following error messages, in succession:

"To execute a 'Save as PDF' command you must have Acrobat Distiller
version 5.05 or higher installed." 

"To execute 'Save as PDF' command you must have PDF Job Options
defined."  

This makes me so frustrated! I already have Distiller 7.0 installed on
my computer. Why can't it see this? 

As for the "PDF Job Options" error,...what in the world?  How am I
supposed to define these PDF Job Options? I looked to find a window
titled PDF Job Options, but to no avail. Since I've never messed with
PDF Job Options in my life, (to the best of my knowledge), why does FM
want me to define these now? 

Back when I was running 7.0., I didn't have these problems. "Save As
PDF" worked every time.  Have you ever seen these two error messages
before? If so, do you have any idea how to fix them?

-Brad
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RE: system variables inside a user variable?

[Ridder, Fred]

As others have noted, it is not possible to use system variables
within user variables, nor is it possible to define additional new
system variables. But I have to say that I really don’t see that 
what you are trying to do provides that much utility. Globally 
updating a regular user variable that contains the year across
all files in a book takes only a few minutes, even for a large 
book, and you only need to change the value once a year.
A manual solution works fine for me in this situation.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

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Subject: system variables inside a user variable?

Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the $year
building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
variables.
 
Thank you for your time.
 
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Frame to pdf bookmark problem

[Ridder, Fred]

A similar question was asked and answered on-list last week. 

The most common cause of the behavior you describe is when
the chapter title is in a separate frame that is not properly 
connected to the frame(s) for the main text flow. Check your
master pages.

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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Southee
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:06 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame to pdf bookmark problem

I've started to get a strange problem when printing to pdf from some
newly created files.

I've got a Chapter Title paragraph style - Chapter:TitleBook, and a
Heading one style - Head:1Book
I have the pdf settings so the Head:1Book tags are indented once from
the Chapter:TitleBook.

However the pdf bookmarks always come out with the Head:1Book headings
above the Chapter:TitleBook heading.

Am on Frame 7.2p158 on WinXP Pro and Acrobat 7 (it's also the same for
Acrobat 8)

When I create a Frame TOC, this has everything in the right order.

I've got other books/files which convert fine with the identical set up.
Any ideas what I could have done wrong?

Regards

Mark

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RE: Deciphering the autonumbering elements

[Ridder, Fred]

The M is a series label. FrameMaker lets you define multiple,
independent numbering series which are distinguished by
single-character labels. Upper-case and lower-case letters are
different labels and you can also potentially use single digits
and punctuation marks if you need more than 53 independent 
series (52 alphabetically labeled ones plus the default unlabeled
series). What happens with the example number scheme you
show is that the only paragraphs will affect the value of this 
autonumbering formula are other paragraphs that also use the 
M series. No other autonumbering will affect the M series.

The empty bracket in this particular case is not necessary
since it trails all the active building blocks. The empty 
building block is normally used as a place-holder in a 
complex (multi-counter) scheme where any particular 
paragraph format only uses a subset of the counters. 
For example, you may have a master numbering series 
for section headings, figure captions, table titles, and 
example labels where the various level section headings
use the 1st, 1st  2nd, 1st through 3rd, or 1st through
4th counters, the figure captions use the 1st and 5th 
counter elements, the table titles use the 1st and 6th
counters, etc.  In each case, where a given format skips
some of the counter elements, you'd use a placeholder 
  building block so that FrameMaker knows which 
specific elements to increment and/or display.  

While it's not strictly necessary to use placeholder building
blocks for trailing counter elements, including them can be 
useful for maintenance and troubleshooting purposes because 
it indicates that there are other paragraphs formats that use 
a larger number of counter elements than are used in the 
current format; when you see the placeholders, you'll have 
some warning that if you manipulate any of those elements 
in this paragraph format you'll probably also be affecting
another format.  


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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Deciphering the autonumbering elements

I am fairly new to Frame and working with a document that was authored
by
someone else.  I understand how to create various numbering schemes, but
need help with a couple of things.  The following is found as the
numbering
scheme for one of the paragraph tags in my doc:   M:Figure n=18-n+


 

1.  What is the M?  I have seen capital letters in several
instances,
what do they mean?  I can't find out from help.
2.  What purpose does the empty bracket serve here?

 

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RE: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

[Ridder, Fred]

This is FrameMaker behaving as it is designed. A single table
row never, EVER, breaks across more than one page. 
If you have more content than what fits on one page, you 
must manually break the row into two rows that will fit. And 
you must manually adjust that row break if the page break 
moves due to text re-flow.   

The same thing is true of vertical straddles, BTW. If a straddled 
cell is too tall to fit on a single page, some of the non-straddled
cells will disappear off the bottom of the page. 

I wish it weren't so, but this is the way it has always been.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:13 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One
row,
in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off
the
page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen
this
behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

Thank you,

Angela
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Deciphering the autonumbering elements

[Ridder, Fred]

The "M" is a series label. FrameMaker lets you define multiple,
independent numbering series which are distinguished by
single-character labels. Upper-case and lower-case letters are
different labels and you can also potentially use single digits
and punctuation marks if you need more than 53 independent 
series (52 alphabetically labeled ones plus the default unlabeled
series). What happens with the example number scheme you
show is that the only paragraphs will affect the value of this 
autonumbering formula are other paragraphs that also use the 
M series. No other autonumbering will affect the M series.

The empty bracket in this particular case is not necessary
since it trails all the active building blocks. The empty 
building block is normally used as a place-holder in a 
complex (multi-counter) scheme where any particular 
paragraph format only uses a subset of the counters. 
For example, you may have a master numbering series 
for section headings, figure captions, table titles, and 
example labels where the various level section headings
use the 1st, 1st & 2nd, 1st through 3rd, or 1st through
4th counters, the figure captions use the 1st and 5th 
counter elements, the table titles use the 1st and 6th
counters, etc.  In each case, where a given format "skips"
some of the counter elements, you'd use a placeholder 
"< >" building block so that FrameMaker knows which 
specific elements to increment and/or display.  

While it's not strictly necessary to use placeholder building
blocks for trailing counter elements, including them can be 
useful for maintenance and troubleshooting purposes because 
it indicates that there are other paragraphs formats that use 
a larger number of counter elements than are used in the 
current format; when you see the placeholders, you'll have 
some warning that if you manipulate any of those elements 
in this paragraph format you'll probably also be affecting
another format.  


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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Molly Keegan
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:16 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Deciphering the autonumbering elements

I am fairly new to Frame and working with a document that was authored
by
someone else.  I understand how to create various numbering schemes, but
need help with a couple of things.  The following is found as the
numbering
scheme for one of the paragraph tags in my doc:   M:Figure 

Global Footer Change

[Ridder, Fred]

If the company name really is in the footers, it is on the 
master pages, and master pages (and reference pages)
are not searched when you do a book-level Find in
FrameMaker. To replace a name in the footers, you'd 
have to open each component file individually and change 
the view to Master Pages before using Find.

Maybe this is a case where saving everything as MIF
and using a text editor makes the most sense? 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Grant Hogarth
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:30 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Global Footer Change

I may be missing something here... But why not simply do a global S?
( you could even swap in the new name as a variable...). 

Grant
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[mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Kenneth C. Benson
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:25 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Global Footer Change

From: "Owen, Clint" <clint.o...@craneaerospace.com>

> If the master pages are the same in all the chapters, make the changes
in one, then use the "Import Formats" function to copy the page layouts
from the corrected chapter into all of the others. You can do this from
the book level. De-select all the other option and check "Page Layouts"
before importing.


But first be sure that all the master pages in the file you're importing
from really are the same as in all the other files because they will be
after you import. If they're not the same, or if you're not sure and you
don't want to find out, save your file to a new file, delete all the
master pages *except* the one you want to import to all the others, and
then import from that file.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

RE: Hiding graphics

[Ridder, Fred]

ViewOptions, bottom radio button. 

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Subject: Hiding graphics

Hi, guys...quick question...what is the shortcut for not displaying
graphics...I'm working over a slow network connection and I don't
need to see the images while I work on the text.

Thanks

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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Hiding graphics

[Ridder, Fred]

View>Options, bottom radio button. 

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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
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Subject: Hiding graphics

Hi, guys...quick question...what is the shortcut for not displaying
graphics...I'm working over a slow network connection and I don't
need to see the images while I work on the text.

Thanks

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

[Ridder, Fred]

One well-documented cause of this behavior is markers that include 
returns. Check your markers. 

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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:50 PM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Frame crashes when generating a Glossary

I marked a bunch of terms with the glossary marker. When I try to update
my book and generate the glossary, Frame crashes. I get that internal
error dialog. When I update the book without the glossary, everything is
fine. Has anyone else experienced this? What was the solution.

Frame 7.0 p492
Win XP


Thank you,



 

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Technical Writer (Software)

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RE: More Elegant Indexing Solution

[Ridder, Fred]

Character formatting that is specified with a building block at the 
end of an individual index marker affects only the page number 
that corresponds to that particular marker. Note that you can use
any named character format, not just the predefined Emphasis 
tag, so you can make the semantics of the page number emphasis 
as complex as you need to.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: More Elegant Indexing Solution

Hi,

Just curious: Does this also work when the emphasis page is
the first of the two? Will both of the two page numbers have
emphasis assigned or only the first one?

Best regards

Winfried

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]On Behalf
 Of Brian Weis
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:43 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: More Elegant Indexing Solution
 
 
 I've already responded to Kevin, and we have a solution that works.
 
 
 When inserting an index marker for Kevin's tutorial 
 passages, you need to
 append the marker text with Emphasis . This would be the 
 only difference
 between the regular (or standard) reference and the tutorial 
 references. For
 example, using the index entries from Kevin's initial email, 
 the text of the
 index marker for the creating new distribution rules 
 tutorial would be:
 
 Distribution Rules:creating new distribution rules Emphasis
 
 
 I tested this in my own doc by trying to create index entries 
 for a report
 description. The first index marker was placed where the description
 started. Then I inserted the Emphasis marker where a 
 sample screenshot
 occurred. The resulting Index entry looked like this:
 
 sales
  return detail lookup 36, *37*
 
 (Yes, the 37 is italicized, but the 36 is not).
 
 
 --
 Brian
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RE: xref help

[Ridder, Fred]

I think you may be under a (common) misconception about
the marker/paragraph option in the Cross-Reference dialog.
That option does *not* change anything about the cross-
references themselves. The option only changes the 
information that is displayed in the dialog.  In the one case,
the dialog presents you with a list of existing x-ref markers
in the target file so that you can choose to refer to an existing
logically marked location. In the other case, the dialog presents 
you with a list of all paragraphs with a specified tag so that 
you can refer to any arbitrary piece of content regardless of 
whether there is already an x-ref marker in that location. 

When using the paragraph list option, if there is already a 
marker in the target location, FrameMaker uses it. If there 
is not an existing marker, FrameMaker creates a new marker.
And if you then toggle back to the marker list display you 
will see that new marker included in the list. But the end 
result is the same either way: an x-ref marker in the target
paragraph so that the referring location can find that location. 

If your cross-references got clobbered in the transition from 
structured to unstructured, it's because XML handles cross-
references very differently than FrameMaker does internally.
It has nothing to do with the item listing option that is set 
in the Cross-Reference dialog.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ




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Behalf Of That Darned Writer
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:27 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: xref help

Hi, all,

I checked the archives and the power tools list, but didn't find 
anything.

Does anyone of a plugin (or is this a job for Framescript?) that 
would crawl through a document and change cross references from a 
reference to a type=marker to type=paragraph?

We have a reference guide that went from structured to unstructured, 
and now we have several thousand cross references that are looking 
for a marker that's not there.

Surely someone's run into this. Is there any workaround?

Thanks, as always!



joanne grey   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Principal writerwww.writeangles.com
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More Elegant Indexing Solution

[Ridder, Fred]

Character formatting that is specified with a building block at the 
end of an individual index marker affects only the page number 
that corresponds to that particular marker. Note that you can use
any named character format, not just the predefined Emphasis 
tag, so you can make the semantics of the page number emphasis 
as complex as you need to.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:38 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: More Elegant Indexing Solution

Hi,

Just curious: Does this also work when the emphasis page is
the first of the two? Will both of the two page numbers have
emphasis assigned or only the first one?

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Brian Weis
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:43 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: More Elegant Indexing Solution
> 
> 
> I've already responded to Kevin, and we have a solution that works.
> 
> 
> When inserting an index marker for Kevin's "tutorial" 
> passages, you need to
> append the marker text with  . This would be the 
> only difference
> between the regular (or standard) reference and the tutorial 
> references. For
> example, using the index entries from Kevin's initial email, 
> the text of the
> index marker for the "creating new distribution rules" 
> tutorial would be:
> 
> Distribution Rules:creating new distribution rules 
> 
> 
> I tested this in my own doc by trying to create index entries 
> for a report
> description. The first index marker was placed where the description
> started. Then I inserted the "" marker where a 
> sample screenshot
> occurred. The resulting Index entry looked like this:
> 
> sales
>  return detail lookup 36, *37*
> 
> (Yes, the "37" is italicized, but the "36" is not).
> 
> 
> --
> Brian

xref help

[Ridder, Fred]

I think you may be under a (common) misconception about
the marker/paragraph option in the Cross-Reference dialog.
That option does *not* change anything about the cross-
references themselves. The option only changes the 
information that is displayed in the dialog.  In the one case,
the dialog presents you with a list of existing x-ref markers
in the target file so that you can choose to refer to an existing
logically marked location. In the other case, the dialog presents 
you with a list of all paragraphs with a specified tag so that 
you can refer to any arbitrary piece of content regardless of 
whether there is already an x-ref marker in that location. 

When using the paragraph list option, if there is already a 
marker in the target location, FrameMaker uses it. If there 
is not an existing marker, FrameMaker creates a new marker.
And if you then toggle back to the marker list display you 
will see that new marker included in the list. But the end 
result is the same either way: an x-ref marker in the target
paragraph so that the referring location can find that location. 

If your cross-references got clobbered in the transition from 
structured to unstructured, it's because XML handles cross-
references very differently than FrameMaker does internally.
It has nothing to do with the item listing option that is set 
in the Cross-Reference dialog.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ




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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of That Darned Writer
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:27 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: xref help

Hi, all,

I checked the archives and the power tools list, but didn't find 
anything.

Does anyone of a plugin (or is this a job for Framescript?) that 
would crawl through a document and change cross references from a 
reference to a type=marker to type=paragraph?

We have a reference guide that went from structured to unstructured, 
and now we have several thousand cross references that are looking 
for a marker that's not there.

Surely someone's run into this. Is there any workaround?

Thanks, as always!



joanne grey   j_grey at writeangles.com
Principal writerwww.writeangles.com

Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

[Ridder, Fred]

Cross-references that are located inside a text inset never work
as hyperlinks in PDF. Doesn't matter whether they're inside a 
table or in the body text. Explicit hypertext commands do work, 
but not hyperlinks that are created by cross-references. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Ed Lightle
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:50 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

Can anybody tell me why my xref's inside tables don't work in the PDF
output when the table is part of a FM file that has been imported into
another FM file?  The xref's work fine in my help output (CHM generated
via WebWorks 9.0).  I'm using FM 7.0, by the way.

Thanks!

Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
Command Alkon Inc.
Dublin, Ohio
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RE: continuing table headings

[Ridder, Fred]

And once you add the heading row, you'll need to re-type
or copy-and-paste each of your existing headings into the
cells of the new heading row before deleting the old pseudo-
heading row.

Or if you have a lot of tables to deal with, do yourself a big
favor and buy a copy of list member Rick Quatro's 
TableCleaner plug-in which can do complete the body-row-
to-heading-row (or body-row-to-footing-row) conversion in 
a single operation for an individual table or for all tables 
of a specified table format. The plug-in also has a lot of 
other features that are *really* useful if you routinely import 
Word documents (or chunks of Word documents) into 
FrameMaker, which is one common way that one winds 
up with tables that don't have real heading rows. 

No commercial connection; just a satisfied user.
Fred Ridder 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:17 PM
To: Kara Fiechtner; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: continuing table headings

If you set your table up with header rows they should automatically
repeat. If you have a table that doesn't do this, try going to Table 
Add Rows or Columns. Select To Heading in the drop down for Add 1
Row(s): and click Add.

When you insert a table, make sure you have at least one Heading Row.

-Nicole 





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Subject: continuing table headings

Hello,
I have a table that spans multiple pages. (It is a long parts list for a
product.) How can I get the table heading to continue across the pages?
I know how to get the table title to continue across pages, but how do I
get the header row to continue?

thanks in advance for any input!

Kara
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continuing table headings

[Ridder, Fred]

And once you add the heading row, you'll need to re-type
or copy-and-paste each of your existing headings into the
cells of the new heading row before deleting the old pseudo-
heading row.

Or if you have a lot of tables to deal with, do yourself a big
favor and buy a copy of list member Rick Quatro's 
TableCleaner plug-in which can do complete the body-row-
to-heading-row (or body-row-to-footing-row) conversion in 
a single operation for an individual table or for all tables 
of a specified table format. The plug-in also has a lot of 
other features that are *really* useful if you routinely import 
Word documents (or chunks of Word documents) into 
FrameMaker, which is one common way that one winds 
up with tables that don't have real heading rows. 

No commercial connection; just a satisfied user.
Fred Ridder 

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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Hales-Crotchett, Nicole
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:17 PM
To: Kara Fiechtner; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: continuing table headings

If you set your table up with header rows they should automatically
repeat. If you have a table that doesn't do this, try going to Table >
Add Rows or Columns. Select To Heading in the drop down for Add 1
Row(s): and click Add.

When you insert a table, make sure you have at least one Heading Row.

-Nicole 





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.com] On Behalf Of Kara Fiechtner
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:11 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: continuing table headings

Hello,
I have a table that spans multiple pages. (It is a long parts list for a
product.) How can I get the table heading to continue across the pages?
I know how to get the table title to continue across pages, but how do I
get the header row to continue?

thanks in advance for any input!

Kara
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RE: Setting up a half page doc to print crop marks

[Ridder, Fred]

And remember to turn off the Generate Acrobat Data option
in the Print dialog, since that option suppresses registration
and crop marks.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
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Subject: RE: Setting up a half page doc to print crop marks

Change you custom size to a little larger size the the crops will show
for
the original page size (8.5 x 5.5)

Z 


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Subject: Setting up a half page doc to print crop marks

Framers,

I'm sure there's a way to do this, but I'm missing it.

I have a document that is meant to be a card that 8.5 x 5.5, so it
will be
printed on a half sheet of an 8.5 x 11 card on both sides. The final
document will have a landscape orientation for the final size. (Hope
that
makes sense; the content fills one page in portrait, but is meant to be
two
sides of a half-page card.)

It took me a while to get this to print correctly at all to the PDF. I
set
up FM with a 8.5 x 5.5 page size, laid it all out, and it looked fine.
But,
when I created the PDF, it would always come out with a portrait
orientation, so the text was sideways. I didn't think I wanted that, so
I
created a custom paper size for my Adobe PDF printer driver set to 8.5 x
5.5
and using that, I get the two pages to print with the correct
orientation.

Now it's ready to go to the printer and I want to add crop marks, but I
get
an error saying that the crop marks won't fit on the page. I see why.
The
page is already set to 8.5 x 5.5. 

Feeling really dumb here. How do I get this to print with the correct
orientation and with crop marks?

Hope this makes sense. It's hard to describe. I keep wanting to hold up
a
piece of paper for you to see. ;)

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
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www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Setting up a half page doc to print crop marks

[Ridder, Fred]

And remember to turn off the Generate Acrobat Data option
in the Print dialog, since that option suppresses registration
and crop marks.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:09 PM
To: 'Linda G. Gallagher'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Setting up a half page doc to print crop marks

Change you custom size to a little larger size the the crops will show
for
the original page size (8.5" x 5.5")

Z 


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[mailto:framers-bounces+azdunczyk=triad.rr.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:05 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Setting up a half page doc to print crop marks

Framers,

I'm sure there's a way to do this, but I'm missing it.

I have a document that is meant to be a card that 8.5" x 5.5", so it
will be
printed on a half sheet of an 8.5 x 11 card on both sides. The final
document will have a landscape orientation for the final size. (Hope
that
makes sense; the content fills one page in portrait, but is meant to be
two
sides of a half-page card.)

It took me a while to get this to print correctly at all to the PDF. I
set
up FM with a 8.5 x 5.5 page size, laid it all out, and it looked fine.
But,
when I created the PDF, it would always come out with a portrait
orientation, so the text was sideways. I didn't think I wanted that, so
I
created a custom paper size for my Adobe PDF printer driver set to 8.5 x
5.5
and using that, I get the two pages to print with the correct
orientation.

Now it's ready to go to the printer and I want to add crop marks, but I
get
an error saying that the crop marks won't fit on the page. I see why.
The
"page" is already set to 8.5 x 5.5. 

Feeling really dumb here. How do I get this to print with the correct
orientation and with crop marks?

Hope this makes sense. It's hard to describe. I keep wanting to hold up
a
piece of paper for you to see. ;)

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates

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RE: FM, paste special text option

[Ridder, Fred]

Note that the maker.ini change does *not* do what you actually
asked about. The change does not change the order of items
in the list in the Paste Special dialog. What it does change 
is the default behavior of the *regular* paste command (Ctrl+V
or EditPaste). If you change the maker.ini priorities, it changes
the decision tree that FrameMaker uses whenever you do a 
paste that uses the Windows clipboard--pasting content from
another application into FrameMaker or between two separate 
instances of FrameMaker. If you usually need to paste as plain 
text, making the change in maker.ini is that you can accomplish
this with the standard Paste command rather than having to
use Paste Special with its extra keystrokes or extra mouse 
clicks.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:54 AM
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Framers
Subject: Re: FM, paste special text option

Check the setting in your maker.ini:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

Try putting FILE before TEXT.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

  Original Message 
 Subject:  Re: paste special ...text option
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0400
 From: Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   Peter Rule [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com
 References:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Pete,

 There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.

 ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF, RTF

 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing
 585-659-8267
 www.frameexpert.com



  Hello framers,
 
  Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on
the 
  paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list
and I 
  would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
 
  Any help appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Pete
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RE: pasting text from FM to FM

[Ridder, Fred]

The behavior you are seeing is because you are using two separate
instances of FrameMaker, so that the copy/paste operation has to 
use the Windows clipboard. If you copy and paste between two
different document windows in the same instance of FrameMaker,
the copy/paste operation is completely internal to FrameMaker 
and retains all formatting. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
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Subject: pasting text from FM to FM

When I have 2 instances of FM open and I copy text in one  FM and paste
the text in the second instance of FM, the formatting disappears even
though the same pgfs are used in both places. Even tables lose their
tableness.

What is happening here and how can I fix it?

TIA
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RE: pasting text from FM to FM

[Ridder, Fred]

That should work. But personally I think it's probably just as
convenient to use one of the free past-as-plain-text 
utilities like PureText, since that approach works within 
a single file as well as between files, and also works with
other applications.  I use PureText and use it at least as 
often when pasting into Outlook as with FrameMaker.
 
My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. 
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) 
Intel 
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From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:35 AM
To: Ridder, Fred; Leah Smaller; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: pasting text from FM to FM


Interweaving similar threads:  If you actually want to paste as
plain text by default, but you're pasting between 2 FM files, could you
do that by setting the default clipboard paste operation as text first
in the maker.ini, and then open each file in a separate instance of FM
to thereby force use of the Windows clipboard and get the FM to FM to
paste as plain text by default???

Rene Stephenson

Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

The behavior you are seeing is because you are using two
separate
instances of FrameMaker, so that the copy/paste
operation has to 
use the Windows clipboard. If you copy and paste between
two
different document windows in the same instance of
FrameMaker,
the copy/paste operation is completely internal to
FrameMaker 
and retains all formatting. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Subject: pasting text from FM to FM

When I have 2 instances of FM open and I copy text in
one FM and paste
the text in the second instance of FM, the formatting
disappears even
though the same pgfs are used in both places. Even
tables lose their
tableness.

What is happening here and how can I fix it?

TIA
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RE: Problems with Save as function

[Ridder, Fred]

First a general rant:

In order of reliability (according to my own experience), 
there are at least five good methods for producing PDFs
from FrameMaker:

Best: If you have Acrobat Professional, set up one or more 
watched folders. Attach an appropriate set of Distiller job options
to each watched folder. Then use the Adobe PDF printer driver
(important point!) to print your document or book to a 
PostScript file in the In folder within one of the watched folders. 
If Distiller is running, it scans the watched folders periodically 
and distills whatever PS files it finds and puts the resulting PDF 
in the Out folder.

2nd best: Print the document/book to a PostScript file using 
the Adobe PDF printer driver (again, this is an important point).
Then distill the file manually by opening the PS file from Distiller.
This method lets you see for sure what Distiller job options are
currently selected.

3rd best: Print the document/book to the Adobe PDF virtual 
printer. This creates a PDF directly using whatever Distiller
job options you have set as the default for the Adobe PDF 
printer instance.

4th best: Use Save as PDF. Adobe *mostly* fixed this function
as of FrameMaker 7.x, but you're still relying on a lot of separate
factors to all be in agreement. This method does so much of 
its work behind the curtain that you simply cannot see in
advance whether everything is set up properly.

But even though Save As PDF is the least reliable of the 
methods I'd ever recommend, it is probably not the cause 
of your current problem.

The first thing you should look at is whether you have the 
option for Tagged PDF turned on in the PDF Setup dialog.
Unless you *know* that you *need* to generate tagged
PDF, turn the feature off. In my experience it is the most
common cause of the type of problem you describe. 

Other than that, was there any page number reported in
the error message? Does the Distiller log file show that 
any pages were processed before the error occurred? 
If so, there is likely something on that page (or the 
next page from what's reported in the log file) that 
Distiller doesn't like. If you can't find any page numbers 
in the log file, you may need to use a reduction by halves
method of printing ever-smaller page ranges to zero in 
on the offending page(s). 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Problems with Save as function

Hi there,
 
I have been working on an FM document for over year. I am using FM 7.2
and
Acrobat 7.0 distiller to create PDFs. 
 
As of this morning I am unable to produce PDFs using the Save as PDF
option. 

I get the following error message:

%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: StRetrieve
P279585 ]%%
 
Stack:
/StRetrieve
/P279585
/StoreName
-dict-
 

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
 
At the same time I cannot use Distiller to produce a .ps file from a PDF
 
Fortunately I can still produce PDFs (lower quality though) when
printing to
PrimoPDF. 
 
Any suggestion or tips?
 
 
Ariel 
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FM, paste special text option

[Ridder, Fred]

Note that the maker.ini change does *not* do what you actually
asked about. The change does not change the order of items
in the list in the Paste Special dialog. What it does change 
is the default behavior of the *regular* paste command (Ctrl+V
or Edit>Paste). If you change the maker.ini priorities, it changes
the decision tree that FrameMaker uses whenever you do a 
paste that uses the Windows clipboard--pasting content from
another application into FrameMaker or between two separate 
instances of FrameMaker. If you usually need to paste as plain 
text, making the change in maker.ini is that you can accomplish
this with the standard Paste command rather than having to
use Paste Special with its extra keystrokes or extra mouse 
clicks.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:54 AM
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Framers
Subject: Re: FM, paste special text option

Check the setting in your maker.ini:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

Try putting FILE before TEXT.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Re: paste special ...text option
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0400
> From: Rick Quatro 
> To:   Peter Rule , 
> References:   
>
>
> Pete,
>
> There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this.
>
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP,
MIF, RTF
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
>
>
>
> > Hello framers,
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on
the 
> > "paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list
and I 
> > would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pete
> > ___
>
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pasting text from FM to FM

[Ridder, Fred]

The behavior you are seeing is because you are using two separate
instances of FrameMaker, so that the copy/paste operation has to 
use the Windows clipboard. If you copy and paste between two
different document windows in the same instance of FrameMaker,
the copy/paste operation is completely internal to FrameMaker 
and retains all formatting. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Leah Smaller
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 5:24 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: pasting text from FM to FM

When I have 2 instances of FM open and I copy text in one  FM and paste
the text in the second instance of FM, the formatting disappears even
though the same pgfs are used in both places. Even tables lose their
tableness.

What is happening here and how can I fix it?

TIA
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
leah at compulite.com

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Problems with "Save as function"

[Ridder, Fred]

First a general rant:

In order of reliability (according to my own experience), 
there are at least five good methods for producing PDFs
from FrameMaker:

Best: If you have Acrobat Professional, set up one or more 
watched folders. Attach an appropriate set of Distiller job options
to each watched folder. Then use the Adobe PDF printer driver
(important point!) to print your document or book to a 
PostScript file in the "In" folder within one of the watched folders. 
If Distiller is running, it scans the watched folders periodically 
and distills whatever PS files it finds and puts the resulting PDF 
in the "Out" folder.

2nd best: Print the document/book to a PostScript file using 
the Adobe PDF printer driver (again, this is an important point).
Then distill the file manually by opening the PS file from Distiller.
This method lets you see for sure what Distiller job options are
currently selected.

3rd best: Print the document/book to the Adobe PDF virtual 
printer. This creates a PDF directly using whatever Distiller
job options you have set as the default for the Adobe PDF 
printer instance.

4th best: Use Save as PDF. Adobe *mostly* fixed this function
as of FrameMaker 7.x, but you're still relying on a lot of separate
factors to all be in agreement. This method does so much of 
its work "behind the curtain" that you simply cannot see in
advance whether everything is set up properly.

But even though Save As PDF is the least reliable of the 
methods I'd ever recommend, it is probably not the cause 
of your current problem.

The first thing you should look at is whether you have the 
option for "Tagged PDF" turned on in the PDF Setup dialog.
Unless you *know* that you *need* to generate tagged
PDF, turn the feature off. In my experience it is the most
common cause of the type of problem you describe. 

Other than that, was there any page number reported in
the error message? Does the Distiller log file show that 
any pages were processed before the error occurred? 
If so, there is likely something on that page (or the 
next page from what's reported in the log file) that 
Distiller doesn't like. If you can't find any page numbers 
in the log file, you may need to use a "reduction by halves"
method of printing ever-smaller page ranges to zero in 
on the offending page(s). 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Ariel Kahana
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:00 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Problems with "Save as function"

Hi there,

I have been working on an FM document for over year. I am using FM 7.2
and
Acrobat 7.0 distiller to create PDFs. 

As of this morning I am unable to produce PDFs using the "Save as PDF"
option. 

I get the following error message:

%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: StRetrieve
P279585 ]%%

Stack:
/StRetrieve
/P279585
/StoreName
-dict-


%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

At the same time I cannot use Distiller to produce a .ps file from a PDF

Fortunately I can still produce PDFs (lower quality though) when
printing to
PrimoPDF. 

Any suggestion or tips?


Ariel 
(Feeling like a complete schmuck)

Resize anchored frame to fit graphic

[Ridder, Fred]

The mnemonic actually stands for "mathematics package",
since the feature was originally designed to package graphics
that were in-line equations. 

And it's probably worthwhile pointing out that the standard
command changes the position attribute of the anchored frame
to be "at insertion point" regardless of how you had previously
set it. This is exactly appropriate behavior when handling 
in-line equations, but it's a PITA most of the rest of the time.
There is, however, a free plug-in that changes the behavior 
of the same Escape command sequence to fit the frame to 
the graphic *without* changing the frame's position attribute. 
The author of the plug-in prefers to remain anonymous, but 
has made the DLL available from listmember Carla Martinek's 
website. Go to 
http://martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html
for the ShrinkWrapAsIs plug-in. Works great, but if you don't 
like it (and you've got an appropriate compiler handy) you 
can use the provided source code to make your own DLL
that does *exactly* what you want.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:45 PM
To: White, William
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Resize anchored frame to fit graphic

White, William wrote:
> Drat - What's the short cut key sequence for this on FM 7.x and Win
XP?

Esc m p  (Escape fraMe wraP)

> 
> I'm sure I seen it recently.

I'm sure you done too ;-)

> 
> Also, where can I find a comprehensive list of short cuts? There seem
to
> be a fair number missing from the Quick Reference Card. 
> 

I'll send you a treasure trove off-list.

-- 
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RE: FrameMaker, Missing fonts

[Ridder, Fred]

Note that there is a very good reason why you did not find 
Times New Roman when you did a search. With the Remember
Missing Font Names preference turned on, the substitution only 
occurs on the screen (and in any printed output). The font
specifications that are in the document itself are *not* changed--
that's the whole point of the remember names option. Only 
after opening the file with remember names turned off would 
you find the substituted font specified by name in the file itself.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

-Original Message-
 On 4/17/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a FM file that uses unavailable fonts. The FM message is:

 The CenturySchoolbook,Italic Italic Font is not available.
   Times New Roman Italic will be used in this session.

 There is not Times New Roman Italic in the font list, so I searched
for
 the Times New Roman font and replaced it with another font.
 Unfortunately, I still get the same message. Any ideas? It won't let
me
 update the book this way.


 -- 
 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson
 052-763-7133
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FrameMaker, Missing fonts

[Ridder, Fred]

Note that there is a very good reason why you did not find 
Times New Roman when you did a search. With the "Remember
Missing Font Names" preference turned on, the substitution only 
occurs on the screen (and in any printed output). The font
specifications that are in the document itself are *not* changed--
that's the whole point of the "remember names" option. Only 
after opening the file with "remember names" turned off would 
you find the substituted font specified by name in the file itself.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
> On 4/17/07, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
> I have a FM file that uses unavailable fonts. The FM message is:
>
> The "CenturySchoolbook,Italic Italic" Font is not available.
>   "Times New Roman Italic" will be used in this session.
>
> There is not Times New Roman Italic in the font list, so I searched
for
> the "Times New Roman" font and replaced it with another font.
> Unfortunately, I still get the same message. Any ideas? It won't let
me
> update the book this way.
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> 052-763-7133

RE: Registration Marks and PDF generation

[Ridder, Fred]

The thinking is that you only need registration marks for a 
pre-press PDF, and that hyperlinks and other features that
are enabled by the Generate Acrobat Data option are 
irrelevant for a PDF that will only be used to produce 
printed docs (unless you've got magic paper...). Pretty
logical, actually.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:59 PM
To: 'Molly Keegan'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Registration Marks and PDF generation

Molly,

Two things might help in the Print dialog box:

- You select the Registration Marks option you want from the drop-down
list.

- Deselect Generate Acrobat Data. For whatever reason (I suspect someone
will fill us in), you can't get registration marks with that option
turned
on.

Hope this helps!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Molly Keegan
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:00 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Registration Marks and PDF generation

I am working with a document that is a special size- 7.5x9 in.  The
publisher we use understandably needs registration marks on our pdf file
to
know where to trim the pages for publishing.  My problem is this- I have
figured out how to insert the registration marks when I convert to a pdf
using the save aspdf method.  My boss, however, insists that I convert
the
book to a post script file and then distill to a pdf, which as far as I
can
tell removes the registration marks from the document- at least they
don't
appear in the pdf.  I have been so frustrated for so long on this issue.
Does anybody know how to insert the registration marks on the Frame
files
before converting to a post script and still have them appear on the
pdf? 

 

 I have searched through several months of archives of this list and
only
found one thread on this topic that had advice that didn't work for me.
Any
tips would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

 

 

Molly
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Registration Marks and PDF generation

[Ridder, Fred]

The thinking is that you only need registration marks for a 
pre-press PDF, and that hyperlinks and other features that
are enabled by the Generate Acrobat Data option are 
irrelevant for a PDF that will only be used to produce 
printed docs (unless you've got magic paper...). Pretty
logical, actually.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:59 PM
To: 'Molly Keegan'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Registration Marks and PDF generation

Molly,

Two things might help in the Print dialog box:

- You select the Registration Marks option you want from the drop-down
list.

- Deselect Generate Acrobat Data. For whatever reason (I suspect someone
will fill us in), you can't get registration marks with that option
turned
on.

Hope this helps!


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
 
Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
Contracting SIG
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Molly Keegan
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:00 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Registration Marks and PDF generation

I am working with a document that is a special size- 7.5x9 in.  The
publisher we use understandably needs registration marks on our pdf file
to
know where to trim the pages for publishing.  My problem is this- I have
figured out how to insert the registration marks when I convert to a pdf
using the save as>pdf method.  My boss, however, insists that I convert
the
book to a post script file and then distill to a pdf, which as far as I
can
tell removes the registration marks from the document- at least they
don't
appear in the pdf.  I have been so frustrated for so long on this issue.
Does anybody know how to insert the registration marks on the Frame
files
before converting to a post script and still have them appear on the
pdf? 



 I have searched through several months of archives of this list and
only
found one thread on this topic that had advice that didn't work for me.
Any
tips would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.





Molly

RE: Quick Access Bar and Security

[Ridder, Fred]

In FrameMaker 7.x, there are two maker.ini files that are
used to configure each user's working environment. 
There is one maker.ini in the FrameMaker installation 
directory, which is a full version that specifies all the 
options that the file supports, and which specifies the
default configuration. Then there is a user-specific
maker.ini buried in each user's 
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data
folder, which can override the default settings in the shared
maker.ini to customize the working environment.

When each user closes FrameMaker, their current user 
preferences for things like View options and dialog box 
locations and sizes will be saved in their private maker.ini
file so that FrameMaker will launch with the same preferences
the next time. If a user enables the quick access bar from
View menu, FrameMaker should launch with that configuration
the next time. If this is not happening, then my guess is that
the users don't have proper permissions for their Application
Data directories so that their personal maker.ini isn't getting
saved.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:58 PM
To: Whites
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: Quick Access Bar and Security

oops - just woke up from nap.
FM Version number should be 7.1.  However, same problem noted on  
install for ordinary user on 7.2.

will white

On Apr 6, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Whites wrote:

 Running FM 1.2 on XP.
 I have several user account set up. When I run FM from the Admin  
 account, the Quick Access Bar is enabled. When I run from an  
 ordinary user account, it is disabled. I
 suspect this is a security issue. What do I need to do as an Admin  
 to set things up so the QAB works for ordinary users?

 Any help greatly appreciated.

 will white
 one lambda, inc
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 One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
 out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
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Quick Access Bar and Security

[Ridder, Fred]

In FrameMaker 7.x, there are two maker.ini files that are
used to configure each user's working environment. 
There is one maker.ini in the FrameMaker installation 
directory, which is a full version that specifies all the 
options that the file supports, and which specifies the
default configuration. Then there is a user-specific
maker.ini buried in each user's 
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data
folder, which can override the default settings in the shared
maker.ini to customize the working environment.

When each user closes FrameMaker, their current user 
preferences for things like View options and dialog box 
locations and sizes will be saved in their private maker.ini
file so that FrameMaker will launch with the same preferences
the next time. If a user enables the quick access bar from
View menu, FrameMaker should launch with that configuration
the next time. If this is not happening, then my guess is that
the users don't have proper permissions for their Application
Data directories so that their personal maker.ini isn't getting
saved.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Whites
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:58 PM
To: Whites
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: Quick Access Bar and Security

oops - just woke up from nap.
FM Version number should be 7.1.  However, same problem noted on  
install for ordinary user on 7.2.

will white

On Apr 6, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Whites wrote:

> Running FM 1.2 on XP.
> I have several user account set up. When I run FM from the Admin  
> account, the Quick Access Bar is enabled. When I run from an  
> ordinary user account, it is disabled. I
> suspect this is a security issue. What do I need to do as an Admin  
> to set things up so the QAB works for ordinary users?
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> will white
> one lambda, inc
> ++
> There is something fascinating about science.
> One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
> out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain
> ++
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Page break paragraph style

[Ridder, Fred]

If you use the Top of Page pagination property for a dedicated
paragraph tag to force a page break, then the space occupied 
by this paragraph will push the following paragraph down the
page. You can play with the line spacing and space before/after
this paragraph to minimize its effect, but unless you set its
Space After to a negative value and then modify each and 
every paragraph tag that might follow it to have a similar 
amount of negative Space Before. And once you've gone to
all that trouble, you're left with a paragraph that is almost 
impossible to see or select manually. 

On the other hand, if you use the large Space After technique,
the paragraph that forces the break is always on the preceding
page so that it does not affect the vertical alignment on the
following page. And you can make the default font something
visually obvious (e.g. red and bold) so that you can see the 
paragraph easily and won't be tempted to use it as a regular
text paragraph.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:31 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Page break paragraph style

Framers,

Years ago, I learned from this list about creating a paragraph style to
use
for page breaks. I've always done this using something like 800 pts of
space
after for the page break paragraph tag to force the new page. In talking
about this with a colleague, she asked why not set the Pagination to Top
of
Page. Hmmm. Good question.

Do you folks have any words of wisdom (pros or cons) for using one
method
over the other for a page break paragraph tag?

Thanks!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC

RE: Change Bars

[Ridder, Fred]

You do it via the Character Format option in the Find box. 
In the Find Character Format dialog, first use Shift+F8 to
set all properties to As Is (gray X's in options, empty 
list boxes) then click the Change Bars option to change 
the X to black.

But be aware that FrameMaker has some long-standing 
bugs relating to searching for text in tables.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Pilla
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:42 AM
To: Grant Hogarth
Cc: Framers@frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Change Bars

Thanks, however: 
How do I search for a change bar as an attribute using Finf/next (Ctrl +

F)? 
 
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What might be worth checking is whether any styles (or overrides) have
the change bar attribute set.  You can search on this attribute.

It won't solve what cased it, but it will let you move forward.

Grant 
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Change Bars

[Ridder, Fred]

You do it via the Character Format option in the Find box. 
In the Find Character Format dialog, first use Shift+F8 to
set all properties to As Is (gray X's in options, empty 
list boxes) then click the Change Bars option to change 
the X to black.

But be aware that FrameMaker has some long-standing 
bugs relating to searching for text in tables.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of John Pilla
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:42 AM
To: Grant Hogarth
Cc: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Change Bars

Thanks, however: 
How do I search for a change bar as an attribute using Finf/next (Ctrl +

F)? 
 
~ John ~  Sr. Learning Specialist, 
Educational Services MRO Software, (An IBM Company)
Phn: +1.781.280.2003, Fax: +1.781.280.2201 John.Pilla at us.ibm.com
 
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What might be worth checking is whether any styles (or overrides) have
the change bar attribute set.  You can search on this attribute.

It won't solve what cased it, but it will let you move forward.

Grant 

RE: Clipboard formats priorities

[Ridder, Fred]

But there *are* a couple of free Windows utilities you can use
to strip formatting from copied content under any circumstance,
including intra-FrameMaker copy and paste. At the moment I'm 
using a tool called PureText by Steve P. Miller, but there are
several other choices, too.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Shaked (Wernick)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:25 PM
To: Framers
Subject: RE: Clipboard formats priorities

Never mind - I searched the archives some more and found that Fred
Ridder
answered the question on March 2.

 Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word clipboard,
 which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses
 the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied
 in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting
 uses an internal mechanism that does not go through the
 Windows clipboard. Internal copy/pasting always comes with
 the formatting intact, which I actually find annoying about
 half the time (for examle, when I'm making a new heading
 from a phrase I copied from the text).

 My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
 Fred Ridder
 Intel
 Parsipany, NJ 


David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks
Consultants

 

-Original Message-
From: David Shaked (Wernick) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 20:17
To: Framers (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Clipboard formats priorities

I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior,
so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit  Paste Special  Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
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Clipboard formats priorities

[Ridder, Fred]

But there *are* a couple of free Windows utilities you can use
to strip formatting from copied content under any circumstance,
including intra-FrameMaker copy and paste. At the moment I'm 
using a tool called PureText by Steve P. Miller, but there are
several other choices, too.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Shaked (Wernick)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:25 PM
To: Framers
Subject: RE: Clipboard formats priorities

Never mind - I searched the archives some more and found that Fred
Ridder
answered the question on March 2.

> Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word "clipboard",
> which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses
> the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied
> in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting
> uses an internal mechanism that does not go through the
> Windows clipboard. Internal copy/pasting always comes with
> the formatting intact, which I actually find annoying about
> half the time (for examle, when I'm making a new heading
> from a phrase I copied from the text).

> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder
> Intel
> Parsipany, NJ 


David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks
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-Original Message-
From: David Shaked (Wernick) [mailto:da...@almondweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 20:17
To: Framers (framers at lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Clipboard formats priorities

I want to change the default Edit > Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior,
so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit > Paste Special > Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks
Consultants

RE: Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem

[Ridder, Fred]

Just to provide some historical context for this, the big
issue with Save As PDF was always that of printer 
drivers, and only on Windows systems. 

In FrameMaker versions through 6.0, Save As PDF 
always used the current Windows printer driver, which
might or might not have been a PostScript driver and
might or might not have been for a printer that supported
color. (Remember all those queries to the list about
people who lost all their colored text when they went
to PDF? The inevitable cause was a monochrome 
printer driver.) 

As of FrameMaker 7.0, Save As PDF always uses the
Adobe PDF printer driver, which is the correct thing
as far as it goes. The problem is that if the default printer 
is not Adobe PDF, this represents a *change* in the 
printer driver, which means a change in font metrics 
(which are supplied by the printer driver on Windows 
systems). And a change in font metrics can mean 
changes in certain line breaks, which in turn might 
affect page and even chapter breaks and make the 
page numbers in the generated files incorrect. So 
Save As PDF is a lot less broken now, but it still has 
a couple of significant gotchas unless you make the 
Adobe PDF printer your default.  

Personally, I never use Save As PDF. I'm a big fan
of the watched folder approach for books or printing
directly to the Adobe PDF virtual printer for single 
files.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:56 PM
To: framers@frameusers.com
Subject: Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem

Steve,

I remember many messages on this list about the Save as PDF function
being
broken in Frame 6.0 and an announcement on this list that it was fixed
in
Frame 7.0.  If I remember correctly, the announcement came from Dov.
Though I generally print to PS and distill, I have used the Save as PDF
function successfully quite a few times in 7.0.

Diane

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To: Steve Rickaby
Cc: framers@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Strange PDF Problem


Steve Rickaby wrote:
   No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that
it's
broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it
been fixed in 7.2?
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Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem

[Ridder, Fred]

Just to provide some historical context for this, the big
issue with Save As PDF was always that of printer 
drivers, and only on Windows systems. 

In FrameMaker versions through 6.0, Save As PDF 
always used the current Windows printer driver, which
might or might not have been a PostScript driver and
might or might not have been for a printer that supported
color. (Remember all those queries to the list about
people who lost all their colored text when they went
to PDF? The inevitable cause was a monochrome 
printer driver.) 

As of FrameMaker 7.0, Save As PDF always uses the
"Adobe PDF" printer driver, which is the correct thing
as far as it goes. The problem is that if the default printer 
is not Adobe PDF, this represents a *change* in the 
printer driver, which means a change in font metrics 
(which are supplied by the printer driver on Windows 
systems). And a change in font metrics can mean 
changes in certain line breaks, which in turn might 
affect page and even chapter breaks and make the 
page numbers in the generated files incorrect. So 
Save As PDF is a lot less broken now, but it still has 
a couple of significant gotchas unless you make the 
Adobe PDF printer your default.  

Personally, I never use Save As PDF. I'm a big fan
of the watched folder approach for books or printing
directly to the Adobe PDF virtual printer for single 
files.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:56 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem

Steve,

I remember many messages on this list about the Save as PDF function
being
broken in Frame 6.0 and an announcement on this list that it was fixed
in
Frame 7.0.  If I remember correctly, the announcement came from Dov.
Though I generally print to PS and distill, I have used the Save as PDF
function successfully quite a few times in 7.0.

Diane

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:17 PM
To: Steve Rickaby
Cc: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Strange PDF Problem


Steve Rickaby wrote:
  > No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that
it's
broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it
been fixed in 7.2?

RE: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

[Ridder, Fred]

But the point remains that the best way to prepare 
depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
are. Just as one example, if you are not planning
to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
reuse, then spending time learning about DITA
would be a digression rather than progress toward
whatever your real objective is. 

There are many different things that can be accomplished
by the implementation and use of structure, and it
is not necessary to know a lot about the techniques
and workflows that don't relate to your specific business
need.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Behalf Of Milan Davidovic
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:09 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

--- Marcus Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why do you want to go to structured data?

Good question (and good thoughts on the question), but
that's a different topic. For the purposes of this
topic, let's imagine that the reasons are sound.

And in case I forget to mention it later, thanks for
all your answers.

Milan
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758
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anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

[Ridder, Fred]

But the point remains that the best way to prepare 
depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
are. Just as one example, if you are not planning
to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
reuse, then spending time learning about DITA
would be a digression rather than progress toward
whatever your real objective is. 

There are many different things that can be accomplished
by the implementation and use of structure, and it
is not necessary to know a lot about the techniques
and workflows that don't relate to your specific business
need.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Milan Davidovic
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:09 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

--- Marcus Carr  wrote:
> Why do you want to go to structured data?

Good question (and good thoughts on the question), but
that's a different topic. For the purposes of this
topic, let's imagine that the reasons are sound.

And in case I forget to mention it later, thanks for
all your answers.

Milan
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758

RE: Book update takes too long

[Ridder, Fred]

The easiest solution to slow book updates is to take a minute
to use the Open All Files in Book command to open everything
*before* you start doing book-level updates. Simply hold down
Shift before pulling down the File menu, and you'll see that all
the familiar single-file commands have changed to operate on 
all files in book.

Just remember that you'll need to save all the files after doing
the book update to refresh the page numbering and paragraph
numbering as stored in the files.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


 

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Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:17 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Book update takes too long

Hi,

I inherited a book with 35 files and 160 pages. When I update
the book (or rename a file or update the file info etc.), this
takes 1 to 2 minutes. That's _much_ longer than similar books.
Printing, however, is normal. There aren't excessive numbers
of cross-references in there. Only lots of tables. Everything
is on my local drive.

I already checked the MIF file. Nothing uncommon.

Does anyone know why the book update takes such long? It seems
as if each file in the book would be opened _very_ often.

Probably the fastest would be to just recreate the book ...

Best regards

Winfried
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Book update takes too long

[Ridder, Fred]

The easiest solution to slow book updates is to take a minute
to use the Open All Files in Book command to open everything
*before* you start doing book-level updates. Simply hold down
Shift before pulling down the File menu, and you'll see that all
the familiar single-file commands have changed to operate on 
"all files in book".

Just remember that you'll need to save all the files after doing
the book update to refresh the page numbering and paragraph
numbering as stored in the files.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ




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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:17 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Book update takes too long

Hi,

I inherited a book with 35 files and 160 pages. When I update
the book (or rename a file or update the file info etc.), this
takes 1 to 2 minutes. That's _much_ longer than similar books.
Printing, however, is normal. There aren't excessive numbers
of cross-references in there. Only lots of tables. Everything
is on my local drive.

I already checked the MIF file. Nothing uncommon.

Does anyone know why the book update takes such long? It seems
as if each file in the book would be opened _very_ often.

Probably the fastest would be to just recreate the book ...

Best regards

Winfried

RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references

[Ridder, Fred]

But after you're done clearing the missing font references,
do return to FilePreferences and turn the remember Missing
Fonts item back on because it is normally a good thing.
This is particularly true if you ever work on files that 
originated someplace else (e.g. a client) and that will be 
returned after you work on them. If you have the Remember...
option turned off, you may be returning files that use very
different fonts than they did when you received them--not a
nice thing to do to a client's files.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@frameUsers.com
Subject: RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Richard,
 I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, 
 every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable 
 fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with 
 available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times 
 and the files open and before I close them, I save them, but 
 the next time I open them, I get the same messages.

If you're happy with the available fonts, do this get rid of the
unavailable ones for good: 

1) With all the files in your book closed, select File  Preferences. In
the dialog, uncheck Remember Missing Font Names and click Set. 

2) Open all the files in your book. You'll get the unavailable fonts
message one more time for each. Confirm that you want to replace the
unavailable fonts. 

3) Save all the files in your book and close them. 

4) Open the files again. They should open without any unavailable fonts
messages. 

HTH!
Richard
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Trouble with cross-references

[Ridder, Fred]

But after you're done clearing the missing font references,
do return to File>Preferences and turn the remember Missing
Fonts item back on because it is normally a good thing.
This is particularly true if you ever work on files that 
originated someplace else (e.g. a client) and that will be 
returned after you work on them. If you have the "Remember..."
option turned off, you may be returning files that use very
different fonts than they did when you received them--not a
nice thing to do to a client's files.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:37 PM
To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Cc: framers at frameUsers.com
Subject: RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references

pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:

> Richard,
> I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, 
> every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable 
> fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with 
> available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times 
> and the files open and before I close them, I save them, but 
> the next time I open them, I get the same messages.

If you're happy with the available fonts, do this get rid of the
unavailable ones for good: 

1) With all the files in your book closed, select File > Preferences. In
the dialog, uncheck Remember Missing Font Names and click Set. 

2) Open all the files in your book. You'll get the unavailable fonts
message one more time for each. Confirm that you want to replace the
unavailable fonts. 

3) Save all the files in your book and close them. 

4) Open the files again. They should open without any unavailable fonts
messages. 

HTH!
Richard

RE: Reasons to Structure

[Ridder, Fred]

The point is that you tag a UI element as a UI element because 
it is a UI element. You make it bold (or whatever) at a later point
in the process based on how you choose to format the semantically
tagged elements for a given deliverable. The element itself is tagged 
according to what kind of information it is, so the tagging is basically
meta-information that has added value to your content because it
can be used in all sorts of post-processing operations.

Semantic tagging of in-line elements (like names of parameters
and API functions) is so valuable that our pubs group was doing it 
in our Word documentation many before we transitioned to Frame,
which was several years before we were acquired by Intel and even 
more years before Intel sold off that business unit and all those 
documents.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Beck
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:16 PM
To: Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
Cc: MATT TODD
Subject: RE: Reasons to Structure

Sorry to be so delinquent in responding to this; I have my excuses.

Some of us actually LIKE the left-brain right-brain gear shifting and are quite 
efficient at it. Mind you, I am a great proponent of structured authoring in 
theory and a miserable practitioner. Maybe it is because I am blessed with a 
mind that is peculiarly both analytical and creative in more-or-less equal 
measure. 

Besides-with the caveat that I have not actually experienced *enforced* 
structured authoring, per sé-if you need to format a word or phrase for 
emphasis or for special recognition (such as bolding UI elements), don't you 
still have to tag that content somewhere? So where is the great advantage? 

As I understand structured authoring (with my admittedly limited 
understanding), its strengths seem to lie more in the realm of freeing the 
author from having to make specific adhoc formatting decisions that may or 
(more likely) may not be consistent. That, and enforcing certain rules about 
what content is required, accepted, optional, etc. 

Is it not so? 

Chuck Beck 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:10 AM
To: framers@FrameUsers.com
Cc: MATT TODD
Subject: Re: Reasons to Structure

At 06:45 -0800 12/2/07, Rene Stephenson wrote:

  * Dynamic formatting: you can use structured FM to create formats that 
 behave differently depending on various surrounding factors, like indent to a 
 certain level if it follows X paragraph but to a different level if it 
 follows Y paragraph.

This is true, but is only part of [this part] of the story.

You can, if you choose, construct an EDD that applies all formatting, using the 
context-sensitive features that Rene describes. To see what this can mean in 
terms of productivity, consider the actions an author performs when working 
with unstructured FrameMaker:

. Write a bit (left brain, focus on content)

. Go to paragraph catalog, apply a paragraph format (right brain, focus on 
presentation)

. Write a bit more (left brain, focus on content)

. Think about character markup-up, select a word (right brain, focus on 
presentation)

. Go to character catalog, apply a character format (right brain, focus on 
presentation)

. Write some more (left brain, focus on content)

. Decide that you don't like the presentation (right brain), go mess with the 
Paragraph Designer, waste twenty minutes...

Thus the author is constantly switching mental modalities and is constantly 
distracted from the job at hand: writing.

Contrast this with using a structured document in which the EDD controls the 
formatting:

. Select an element (mid-brain ;-)

. Write (left brain)

. Hit return: EDD controls next element (no brain ;-)

. Write (left brain)

and so on... with absolutely no trips to paragraph catalog or Paragraph 
Designer, ever. And this is only one of a great many advantages of structure: 
others will elaborate all the stuff about validation, round-tripping, 
single-sourcing, standards and so on.

Forgive me if I've got left brain and right brain the wrong way around: I'm 
left-handed.

--
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Reasons to Structure

[Ridder, Fred]

The point is that you tag a UI element as a UI element because 
it is a UI element. You make it bold (or whatever) at a later point
in the process based on how you choose to format the semantically
tagged elements for a given deliverable. The element itself is tagged 
according to what kind of information it is, so the tagging is basically
meta-information that has added value to your content because it
can be used in all sorts of post-processing operations.

Semantic tagging of in-line elements (like names of parameters
and API functions) is so valuable that our pubs group was doing it 
in our Word documentation many before we transitioned to Frame,
which was several years before we were acquired by Intel and even 
more years before Intel sold off that business unit and all those 
documents.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Charles Beck
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:16 PM
To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Cc: MATT TODD
Subject: RE: Reasons to Structure

Sorry to be so delinquent in responding to this; I have my excuses.

Some of us actually LIKE the left-brain right-brain gear shifting and are quite 
efficient at it. Mind you, I am a great proponent of structured authoring in 
theory and a miserable practitioner. Maybe it is because I am blessed with a 
mind that is peculiarly both analytical and creative in more-or-less equal 
measure. 

Besides-with the caveat that I have not actually experienced *enforced* 
structured authoring, per s?-if you need to format a word or phrase for 
emphasis or for special recognition (such as bolding UI elements), don't you 
still have to tag that content somewhere? So where is the great advantage? 

As I understand structured authoring (with my admittedly limited 
understanding), its strengths seem to lie more in the realm of freeing the 
author from having to make specific adhoc formatting decisions that may or 
(more likely) may not be consistent. That, and enforcing certain rules about 
what content is required, accepted, optional, etc. 

Is it not so? 

Chuck Beck 


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor.com at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:10 AM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Cc: MATT TODD
Subject: Re: Reasons to Structure

At 06:45 -0800 12/2/07, Rene Stephenson wrote:

>  * Dynamic formatting: you can use structured FM to create formats that 
> behave differently depending on various surrounding factors, like indent to a 
> certain level if it follows X paragraph but to a different level if it 
> follows Y paragraph.

This is true, but is only part of [this part] of the story.

You can, if you choose, construct an EDD that applies all formatting, using the 
context-sensitive features that Rene describes. To see what this can mean in 
terms of productivity, consider the actions an author performs when working 
with unstructured FrameMaker:

. Write a bit (left brain, focus on content)

. Go to paragraph catalog, apply a paragraph format (right brain, focus on 
presentation)

. Write a bit more (left brain, focus on content)

. Think about character markup-up, select a word (right brain, focus on 
presentation)

. Go to character catalog, apply a character format (right brain, focus on 
presentation)

. Write some more (left brain, focus on content)

. Decide that you don't like the presentation (right brain), go mess with the 
Paragraph Designer, waste twenty minutes...

Thus the author is constantly switching mental modalities and is constantly 
distracted from the job at hand: writing.

Contrast this with using a structured document in which the EDD controls the 
formatting:

. Select an element (mid-brain ;-)

. Write (left brain)

. Hit return: EDD controls next element (no brain ;-)

. Write (left brain)

and so on... with absolutely no trips to paragraph catalog or Paragraph 
Designer, ever. And this is only one of a great many advantages of structure: 
others will elaborate all the stuff about validation, round-tripping, 
single-sourcing, standards and so on.

Forgive me if I've got left brain and right brain the wrong way around: I'm 
left-handed.

--
Steve
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FrameMaker 5.5.6 > Word > InDesign help needed

[Ridder, Fred]

An approach I've used a lot when I don't have the source files for
graphics in a Word file I need to convert to FrameMaker is to 
select just the graphic and use the Selection option and the 
Adobe PDF printer in the Print dialog to make a PDF of the 
graphic. I then open the PDF in Acrobat sand use the 
Document>Crop command to crop away the whitespace. 
Using that PDF in FrameMaker produces results that print
just as well as they do in the Word document because the
Adobe PDF printer captures all the benefits of Word's "Deep
Juju". As Dov noted, the placed PDF is converted to EPS 
when you print the FrameMaker document, and you have
the added benefit of a *much* better on-screen rendition of
the graphic in FrameMaker.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:58 AM
To: hedley.finger at myob.com
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 5.5.6 > Word > InDesign help needed

At 15:19 +1100 31/1/07, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote:

>A former client of mine has a thesis with many graphics imported by
>reference into FrameMaker 5.5.6 running in Classic Mac 9.1 on
>PowerMacintosh.  She wants to convert them to InDesign v. 2.0.  I
>suggested that she save to Mac Word 4, 5, or 6, or to RTF using the
>Japanese converter, in the Save As dialogue.  I can't do this myself as
I
>don't have FrameMaker installed on my home Windows computer.
>
>So, will this process work: FrameMaker 5.5.6 > Word/RTF > InDesign?  (I
>don't have InDesign or any InDesign experience.)

I think this was the route I took a few years ago when presented with
the same thing. However, I was fortunate in that the Word Ms had no
graphics: these would need to be picked out of the Word docs and re-set
in InDesign. Trouble is, Word does a load of Deep Juju on imported
graphics, and I'll bet in your client's case the original image files
are no longer available.

One trick that is often recommended to handle embedded graphics in Word
is to [separately] save as HTML, which spits out all the graphics
separately. Trouble is, I think it spits them out as GIFs - although
this might be configurable.

>If this does work, can an Australian FrameMaker user who can assist in
>this conversion please contact Mary Ann directly at
> or by calling mobile 0425 794 949 (+61 425
>794 949).

Moral: read ahead... :-(

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RE: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Ridder, Fred]

Oops, I meant to send this to the list, not just to Alison... 

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred 
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:02 PM
To: 'Alison Carrico'
Subject: RE: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

It's true that if you use Copy Special to copy the character formatting
of a selection, it copies all of the formatting characteristics rather 
than just the tag. This means that you cannot do what you describe
by pasting the character formatting.

But what I would do in the case you describe uses a different approach,
but may require the installation of Shlomo Perets' Microtype User 
Interface Customization. (It's been so long since I've worked on a
system
that wasn't set up with the customizations that I've forgotten exactly
what features are provided by that package.)  First, I make sure that 
the character tag in question is properly set up with most of its 
properties set to As Is. Then I'd manually apply the tag to the first
instance of the text string I want to change. Then I'd find the next
instance (probably using the F3 key to repeat the previous Find 
operation if I was using Find/Change) and then use F5 to repeat the
last character command, namely applying the character tag. Works
like a champ, but I think the F3 and F4 functions are ones that came
in Shlomo's package, which includes a file called customui.cfg that
includes the following two lines:
F3 Modify FindNext KeySequence /F3
F5 Modify CharacterRepeatLast   KeySequence /F5
In other words, the command you need exists, but you may have to
do some work to gain access to the command.

Even if you don't want to install Shlomo's complete package, 
you should be able to set up a custom command configuration file 
that contains those lines. There's a soft manual in your FrameMaker 
installation that provides complete (but not completely accurate) 
documentation on the modifications you can make to the user 
interface via configuration files and there's also a sample.cfg file 
that shows four of the more common kinds of customizations.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
find/change text  character tags in one operation?  

 

I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
character attributes, not tags.

 

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Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

[Ridder, Fred]

Oops, I meant to send this to the list, not just to Alison... 

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred 
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:02 PM
To: 'Alison Carrico'
Subject: RE: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

It's true that if you use Copy Special to copy the character formatting
of a selection, it copies all of the formatting characteristics rather 
than just the tag. This means that you cannot do what you describe
by pasting the character formatting.

But what I would do in the case you describe uses a different approach,
but may require the installation of Shlomo Perets' Microtype User 
Interface Customization. (It's been so long since I've worked on a
system
that wasn't set up with the customizations that I've forgotten exactly
what features are provided by that package.)  First, I make sure that 
the character tag in question is properly set up with most of its 
properties set to As Is. Then I'd manually apply the tag to the first
instance of the text string I want to change. Then I'd find the next
instance (probably using the F3 key to repeat the previous Find 
operation if I was using Find/Change) and then use F5 to repeat the
last character command, namely applying the character tag. Works
like a champ, but I think the F3 and F4 functions are ones that came
in Shlomo's package, which includes a file called customui.cfg that
includes the following two lines:
F3 >
F5 >
In other words, the command you need exists, but you may have to
do some work to gain access to the command.

Even if you don't want to install Shlomo's complete package, 
you should be able to set up a custom command configuration file 
that contains those lines. There's a soft manual in your FrameMaker 
installation that provides complete (but not completely accurate) 
documentation on the modifications you can make to the user 
interface via configuration files and there's also a sample.cfg file 
that shows four of the more common kinds of customizations.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Alison Carrico
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:45 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Plugin for enhanced find/change operations?

Does anyone know of a plugin, script or workaround that will allow me to
find/change text & character tags in one operation?  



I would like to apply a character tag to a particular character that is
used in paragraphs of several different styles without changing the rest
of the attributes. As far as I can tell, Frame only lets me change
character attributes, not tags.



Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

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RE: TOUGH ONE

[Ridder, Fred]

Not so tough if you broaden your request just a tad. You can
apply a single formatting property to multiple paragraphs, but 
you don't do it by copying and pasting.

If the paragraphs are consecutive, simply select them
all as a block and open the Paragraph Designer. The designer
will only display specific properties that are common to all 
selected paragraphs, but this isn't quite generic enough. Use 
the Set Window to As Is command to set *everything* to As Is.
Then set the one property you want to change and click Apply
(*NOT* Update All). Only that one property will be changed.

If the paragraphs are not all consecutive, use exactly the same 
procedure for the first paragraph or block of paragraphs. Then 
use F4 to apply the same paragraph formatting (As Is except 
for the single property you are changing) to any other paragraphs
you want to change.

Of course this applies the formatting as an override. If you want
to change the definition of the paragraph formats, you want to 
look into the Global Updates Options.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:01 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: TOUGH ONE

Hello there,
Looking for a way to copy one property of a paragraph? like it's spacebelow 
or keepwithnext? and paste it over to many other paragraphs. BUT ONLY ONE 
PROPERTY.
Braincracker, huh?
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RE: Purchasing Fonts

[Ridder, Fred]

You should be able to use any of these font technologies without
any major problems. I'd tend to recommend OpenType mainly
because it is the newest technology and because both Adobe 
and Microsoft were involved in developing it. 

When installing fonts on a Windows system you use the Control
Panel's Fonts tool. And there is no particular advantage to having 
the tool install the font in any location other than the default font 
folder.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
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Subject: Purchasing Fonts

Framers,
 
I'm looking to purchase a font to use in my documentation. I'd like it
to work in FrameMaker, display in my PDF and in e-Publisher. There are
several options when I try to purchase it. They are opentype (PC, Mac),
Win TrueType, and WinPostScript. Which one do I need? 
 
I am using FrameMaker 7.2 with the distiller option that comes with it,
and e-Publisher 9.2 on Windows XP.
 
Once I purchase the font, how do I get these applications to recognize
it? What directory do I need to add it to?
 
Thanks for your help,
Carrie Keeling
Quality Assurance Analyst/Information Developer  World Records
Computershare 
2 Enterprise Drive, Shelton, CT 06484 
T 1 203 944 7300 x163
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Purchasing Fonts

[Ridder, Fred]

You should be able to use any of these font technologies without
any major problems. I'd tend to recommend OpenType mainly
because it is the newest technology and because both Adobe 
and Microsoft were involved in developing it. 

When installing fonts on a Windows system you use the Control
Panel's Fonts tool. And there is no particular advantage to having 
the tool install the font in any location other than the default font 
folder.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Carrie Keeling
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:45 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Purchasing Fonts

Framers,

I'm looking to purchase a font to use in my documentation. I'd like it
to work in FrameMaker, display in my PDF and in e-Publisher. There are
several options when I try to purchase it. They are opentype (PC, Mac),
Win TrueType, and WinPostScript. Which one do I need? 

I am using FrameMaker 7.2 with the distiller option that comes with it,
and e-Publisher 9.2 on Windows XP.

Once I purchase the font, how do I get these applications to recognize
it? What directory do I need to add it to?

Thanks for your help,
Carrie Keeling
Quality Assurance Analyst/Information Developer > World Records
Computershare 
2 Enterprise Drive, Shelton, CT 06484 
T 1 203 944 7300 x163
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Updating chapter numbers

[Ridder, Fred]

I'm sorry to have to tell you that the $chapnum system variable 
can only have a single value in any given file. If you *must*
have multiple chapters in the same file you must build your 
numbering scheme from individual numbering counters, which 
was the standard mechanism for FrameMaker versions through
v5.5.6.  

And if you have multiple chapters in a file and you need to use 
a numbering scheme for your tables and figures that includes 
the chapter number (a scheme which seems to be used less 
and less as time goes by, BTW) you will need to build a single 
labeled numbering scheme that includes separate counter elements 
for the chapter number, for each level of section number, for tables, 
and for figures. The $chapnum system variable was introduced 
in FrameMaker 6.0 to simplify just this kind of situation (and 
also to make it easier to use multiple files for a single chapter), 
but it does require you to follow a no more than one chapter
per file model.

Many people are confused or simply intimidated by the 
complexity of this single, consolidated numbering series, 
but it is all completely logical if you simply slow down and 
do things methodically. Over the years there have been several 
very good  articles written on how to implement and maintain 
this kind of numbering in Frame, and at least one of them was 
always available on the FrameUsers website.  (If only the 
FrameUsers website were available...)  If you're lucky, one or 
more of the authors who are list members will offer to send 
you a copy of their article or point you to some other website 
where it is still available.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Robert.Werner at appsense.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Updating chapter numbers

All,

Using Frame 7.2

Can two occurrences of the same chapter styles be used in a single file
within a book and update correctly?

The style uses the <$chapnum> value but does not increment when there
are two occurences in the same file. Other styles used in a document
with numbering which inherit the $chapnum value from the chapter style
also do not update correctly.

I have scoured the Framemaker documentation for an indication of what
the answer might be without success.

If more than one occurrence of the chapter style cannot be used in the
same frame file and correctly increment with the expected results in the
numbering of other styles which inherit the chapnum value, such as
captions, I would like to understand why this is the case so that I can
explain this to interested parties here at my workplace.

Thanks in advance

Rob 

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RE: book paginating woes

[Ridder, Fred]

A few helpful expansions on David's excellent response:

It's the Start On setting of the *following* file in the book that 
causes the behavior you describe in your problem files. 
If you get a blank verso page in a chapter, the second place
to look (after making sure that the current chapter is set to 
Delete Empty Pages) is the pagination properties of the
next file in the book.

Also note that the Next Available option that David mentions 
is only available from the book window. The pagination properties
you set in the individual chapter apply if you ever print that 
chapter on its own, and without the context of the book there 
is no notion of next available.

Finally, you can set the pagination properties for a group of 
chapter files in the same operation by selecting the chapters
in the book window and then right-clicking and choosing
Pagination from the pop-up menu.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Schor
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:22 AM
To: Laura Larson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: book paginating woes

Laura,

It's very likely that in the Book, the files are defined to start on
right pages in a double-sided page setup. If this is the case, Frame
will always add a blank left page, if necessary, in order to maintain
consecutive running pages as it generates and updates the Book. In
such settings, Frame will not end a file on a right page, and then
continue the next file on a right page. It must account for a left
page, even a blank one, in between.

If you don't want any empty pages and don't care which side the files
start, set the files in the Book  to start on the next available
page and to delete empty pages. Then, save the Book and reupdate
it.

HTH,


-- 
David Schor
Senior Technical Writer
RADLAN, a Marvell Company
Tel: (+972) 3 7662823
Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.marvell.com


On 1/9/07, Laura Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages.
I
 go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files
 match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and
each
 time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page.

 I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've
 reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are
 supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one
page
 here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same
 troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the
 chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all
 the text into a single file for the sake of consistency.

 The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be
 something on the page about an irregular column layout.

 The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap
 other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new
 column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even
 though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the
 page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or
hidden
 text for that matter.

 Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in
the
 reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that
 if there were an error in that regard that it would have been
corrected
 when I reimported my new formats from a good file.

 Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions
would
 be most heartening.

 Thanks!

 Laura Larson
 Electronic Clearing House, Inc.
 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301
 Lakewood, CO 80228
 (303) 650-0474
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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book paginating woes

[Ridder, Fred]

A few helpful expansions on David's excellent response:

It's the Start On setting of the *following* file in the book that 
causes the behavior you describe in your "problem" files. 
If you get a blank verso page in a chapter, the second place
to look (after making sure that the current chapter is set to 
Delete Empty Pages) is the pagination properties of the
next file in the book.

Also note that the Next Available option that David mentions 
is only available from the book window. The pagination properties
you set in the individual chapter apply if you ever print that 
chapter on its own, and without the context of the book there 
is no notion of "next available".

Finally, you can set the pagination properties for a group of 
chapter files in the same operation by selecting the chapters
in the book window and then right-clicking and choosing
Pagination from the pop-up menu.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Schor
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:22 AM
To: Laura Larson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: book paginating woes

Laura,

It's very likely that in the Book, the files are defined to start on
right pages in a double-sided page setup. If this is the case, Frame
will always add a blank left page, if necessary, in order to maintain
consecutive running pages as it generates and updates the Book. In
such settings, Frame will not end a file on a right page, and then
continue the next file on a right page. It must account for a left
page, even a blank one, in between.

If you don't want any empty pages and don't care which side the files
start, set the files in the Book  to start on the "next available
page" and to "delete empty pages." Then, save the Book and reupdate
it.

HTH,


-- 
David Schor
Senior Technical Writer
RADLAN, a Marvell Company
Tel: (+972) 3 7662823
Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253
E-mail: dschor at marvell.com
Web: www.marvell.com


On 1/9/07, Laura Larson  wrote:
> I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages.
I
> go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files
> match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and
each
> time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page.
>
> I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've
> reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are
> supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one
page
> here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same
> troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the
> chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all
> the text into a single file for the sake of consistency.
>
> The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be
> something on the page about an irregular column layout.
>
> The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap
> other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new
> column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even
> though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the
> page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or
hidden
> text for that matter.
>
> Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in
the
> reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that
> if there were an error in that regard that it would have been
corrected
> when I reimported my new formats from a "good" file.
>
> Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions
would
> be most heartening.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Laura Larson
> Electronic Clearing House, Inc.
> 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301
> Lakewood, CO 80228
> (303) 650-0474
> llarson at echo-inc.com
>
> ___

Using Conditional Text in Books

[Ridder, Fred]

Not quite, but close enough. 

What you need to do is set the desired conditions in one file, 
then import those conditional text settings into all the other files. 

Leave the first file open after you set it up properly, then highlight
all the component files (except the one you have set) in the book 
window. Then invoke File>Import>Formats, select the set-up file 
in the Import From box, and deselect all format properties except 
Conditional Text Settings, then one more button click is all you 
need. BTW, this procedure has been in place since version 6.0.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:00 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Using Conditional Text in Books

Is there a way to change the conditional text settings for all of the
chapters in book at one time, rather than having to go in and reset each
chapter file individually? 

I have three books that I have set up to share several chapter files,
but having to go in and change the conditional text settings for each
chapter at a time seems rather cumbersome. 

I'm using Frame 7.1. Any suggestions would be most welcome!

Thanks!

Laura Larson
Senior Technical Writer
Electronic Clearing House, Inc. 
355 Union Blvd, Ste 301
Lakewood, CO 80228
(303) 650-0474 
llarson at echo-inc.com 

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OT - Who should be responsible for proofing?

[Ridder, Fred]

What you have described is much deeper than what I
would call proofreading. I would put some it under the 
heading of SME content review (which shouldn't get 
sidetracked in issues of grammar or punctuation), and 
most of it under editing (which really has several of its
own subcategories).

No one set of eyes is ever going to pick up all classes 
of errors and issues. And if the number of different people 
available to review/edit/proofread a document is limited,
you'll still get better results if those people do multiple
passes through the document with a limited scope for 
each pass. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of d.mossfritch at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:19 PM
To: Art Campbell; Natalie Bircher
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT - Who should be responsible for proofing?

Good Day Art and Natalie,

If you are looking at only spelling and grammar, perhaps. However, the
problems encountered at our site deal more with content (complete
procedures, no link from the help file to an application's Help buttons,
lack of option and data column descriptions, and more) and the structure
of documents.

A couple of years ago our expert (of spelling and grammer) reviewed a
contractor's publication and offered a couple of comments. What the
expert had missed was the description of the software application was
backwards of the application's actual purpose and operation.

Afraid I must say that proofing a document depends upon the purpose of
that proofing.

Best,

 Denise L. Moss-Fritch

-- Original message -- 
From: "Art Campbell" <art.campb...@gmail.com> 

> In practical terms, it should be the person who gets zinged if there's

> a mistake and/or the person in the organization with the best spelling

> and grammar skills. 
> 
> If you're asking a process question, I'd say no, it should never be 
> the writer because he/she has looked at the copy too much to look at 
> it with fresh eyes. 
> 
> But back in practical terms, if the writer is the best speller / 
> grammarian, he/she is likely to get stuck with the job. 
> 
> Art 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/15/06, Natalie Bircher wrote: 
> > This is off topic, but something that we all must come across as 
> > writers. Who should be responsible for the final proofing of the 
> > documents you write? Should it ever be the writer? 
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word spacing formatting changing--only when files are shared.i'mstumped.

[Ridder, Fred]

Assuming that you are not getting any "Unavailable font" messages
as Rick has suggested, there are a couple of other things to consider.

What do each of you have set as your default printer?  On Windows 
platforms the font metrics (the precise dimensions of every glyph and 
space that is produced in your text) come from the printer driver, and
there are subtle (or not so subtle) differences in the font metrics 
whenever different printer drivers are being used. One way around this
is to use the SetPrint plug-in from Sundorne Communications, which
allows you to set a FrameMaker default printer completely 
independently of the Windows default printer. This way, both of you 
can use the same printer driver within FrameMaker (e.g. the Adobe
PDF printer driver if you normally produce PDF deliverables) even if
your systems have different physical printers available to them.

And once you're using the same printer driver, you should check to 
see whether you are both using the same setting for the 
DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics setting in your maker.ini files. I would
recommend that you set this option to On rather than the default Off.
(Remember to edit maker.ini only when FrameMaker is not running.)

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Staff Information Services Analyst
Intel
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:09 PM
To: Cybele Knowles; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: word spacing formatting changing--only when files are
shared.i'mstumped.

Do you or your coworker get any "Unavailable language" or "Unavailable
font" 
messages when you open the document?

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> My coworker and I use unstructured Frame 7.2. We've been struggling
with
> this problem: When I open a file last saved by my coworker, the word 
> spacing
> in one or more paragraphs has changed, resulting in layout changes 
> (orphans
> and widows). The same thing happens to my coworker-when she opens a
file I
> last saved, the word spaces has changed. These changes in word spacing
do
> not happen if I open a file I last saved. In other words, when User X 
> opens
> a file last saved by same User X, no problem. When a file last saved
by 
> User
> X is opened by User Y, word spacing changes occur almost always. We do
not
> see any other formatting being changed-just word spacing in one or
more
> paragraphs.
>
>
>
> We do often adjust word spacing by hand using the Paragraph Designer >
> Advanced > Word Spacing > Minimum/Maximum/Optimum fields. But I don't
> understand why any word space settings should change, whether they are
> custom or default.
>
>
>
> Any insight would be much appreciated-we're stumped, frustrated, and 
> wasting
> a lot of time checking changing document layouts.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cybele Knowles

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RE: Acrobat Pro 8.0 and FM 7.2

[Ridder, Fred]

Usually you want to have Acrobat installed before you install
FrameMaker in order to get Save As PDF (a feature I personally
prefer not to use, ever) to work.

But one other thing to check is whether your computer has a 
port defined with the name FILE: (all caps and with the colon).
For some strange reason, the Acrobat install occasionally
clobbers that port and without it the Save As PDF feature 
doesn't work. 

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Subject: Acrobat Pro 8.0 and FM 7.2

Hi, folks. 
 
I've recently upgraded to FM 7.2 and Acrobat Pro 8 (in that order) and
my Save as PDF function has gone missing. The dialog box comes us and I
choose all my options, but nothing happens. No PDF, no nothing. I
remember that there was a right order in which to install, but I've
forgotten what it is (and the archives are next to impossible to
search). Apologies if this has already been beaten to death.
 
I'm running Windows XP Pro, SP2, and patched/updated FM to 7.2p158 after
I installed Acrobat. There are no other Acrobat versions on the machine.

 
Thanks.
 
...Susan

.
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RE: Current Online help standard

[Ridder, Fred]

And to address one issue that Art did not talk about:
RoboHelp is not on its way out. The ownership of the
company that publishes RoboHelp did change a couple 
of times (eHelp was bought by Macromedia, and then
Macromedia was bought by Adobe), and along the way
most of the original developers left.  But this spring at 
the WinWriters conference, Adobe did something that
is completely unprecedented for them: they publicly 
indicated that they were working on a new version of 
RoboHelp with a target release date in the first half of
2007. Whether this is too little, too late is a question
for the marketplace to answer. But Adobe believes the
product itself is still viable and are investing resources
in it.   

The one thing that is (arguably) on its way out is the
long-in-the-tooth Windows Help (.hlp) format. The new
Vista operating system will not include the WinHelp 
engine, and it is still unclear whether a Vista-compatible
WinHelp viewer will be available for download from 
Microsoft. The only flavor of application help that is 
officially supported on Vista is HTML Help (.chm). 
Vista itself has a new type of help, which is initially 
only available for in-house use within Microsoft and 
which may or may not eventually be made available 
to third-party application developers.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:23 PM
To: Susan Curtzwiler
Cc: FrameMaker
Subject: Re: Current Online help standard

There isn't a standard anything for online help. Depends on your
application, OS, and your inclinations. You may want to review
http://hat-matrix.com/ for ideas.

My own preference is to single source in FM and output to OmniHelp or
HTML help through omsys.com's MIF2Go plug-in. Other people prefer to
use Webworks, usually the Pro version, to extract from FM.

Art

On 12/5/06, Susan Curtzwiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please, what is the current standard for online help?
   Is this now built into FrameMaker? Can I use 7.0 or do I need 7.2?

   I've heard that RoboHelp is on its way out. If I develop a rather
large doc (~200pgs) in Robo, will I be sorely outdated?

   Thanks,
   Sue
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Current Online help standard

[Ridder, Fred]

And to address one issue that Art did not talk about:
RoboHelp is not "on its way out". The ownership of the
company that publishes RoboHelp did change a couple 
of times (eHelp was bought by Macromedia, and then
Macromedia was bought by Adobe), and along the way
most of the original developers left.  But this spring at 
the WinWriters conference, Adobe did something that
is completely unprecedented for them: they publicly 
indicated that they were working on a new version of 
RoboHelp with a target release date in the first half of
2007. Whether this is too little, too late is a question
for the marketplace to answer. But Adobe believes the
product itself is still viable and are investing resources
in it.   

The one thing that is (arguably) on its way out is the
long-in-the-tooth Windows Help (.hlp) format. The new
Vista operating system will not include the WinHelp 
engine, and it is still unclear whether a Vista-compatible
WinHelp viewer will be available for download from 
Microsoft. The only flavor of application help that is 
officially supported on Vista is HTML Help (.chm). 
Vista itself has a new type of help, which is initially 
only available for in-house use within Microsoft and 
which may or may not eventually be made available 
to third-party application developers.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:23 PM
To: Susan Curtzwiler
Cc: FrameMaker
Subject: Re: Current Online help standard

There isn't a "standard" anything for online help. Depends on your
application, OS, and your inclinations. You may want to review
http://hat-matrix.com/ for ideas.

My own preference is to single source in FM and output to OmniHelp or
HTML help through omsys.com's MIF2Go plug-in. Other people prefer to
use Webworks, usually the Pro version, to extract from FM.

Art

On 12/5/06, Susan Curtzwiler  wrote:
> Please, what is the current standard for online help?
>   Is this now built into FrameMaker? Can I use 7.0 or do I need 7.2?
>
>   I've heard that RoboHelp is on its way out. If I develop a rather
large doc (~200pgs) in Robo, will I be sorely outdated?
>
>   Thanks,
>   Sue

RE: Query on paragraph prrperties for a specific sentence

[Ridder, Fred]

In FrameMaker, text flow and positioning properties are associated
with named paragraph formats (paragraph tags) or applied to individual
paragraphs as format overrides (which are generally considered to be
a poor practice because they compromise your ability to change the
appearance of your documents by importing formats from templates
or other documents).  

To set a paragraph to appear at the top of its column, start with the
insertion point in the paragraph in question.  Then open the Paragraph 
Designer (FormatParagraphDesigner or Ctrl+M) and choose the 
Pagination property tab.  In the Start list box, choose Top of 
column.  

But now comes the crucial step, which how you wish to apply this 
formatting.  If the paragraph you are using for your name of 
person string already has its own paragraph tag, you can click 
Update All to associate the start at top of column property with
that paragraph tag and apply the formatting to all such paragraphs.
If the name string is in a paragraph that has some generic tag (e.g.
Body), you should define a new, specialized tag that incorporates
your formatting by clicking the Commands button and choosing
New Format. Or you can take the quick and dirty approach of 
applying the top of column property as a format override for this 
specific paragraph by clicking the Apply button.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Subject: Query on paragraph prrperties for a specific sentence

Hi Framers:
I need to attach a top of column tag to a specific string of text, e.g

name of person. I can do this in PageMaker but am a newbie to
Framemaker 
and am battling at the bottom of the learning curve.

Newbie Shell


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Query on paragraph prrperties for a specific sentence

[Ridder, Fred]

In FrameMaker, text flow and positioning properties are associated
with named paragraph formats (paragraph tags) or applied to individual
paragraphs as format overrides (which are generally considered to be
a poor practice because they compromise your ability to change the
appearance of your documents by importing formats from templates
or other documents).  

To set a paragraph to appear at the top of its column, start with the
insertion point in the paragraph in question.  Then open the Paragraph 
Designer (Format>Paragraph>Designer or Ctrl+M) and choose the 
Pagination property tab.  In the "Start" list box, choose "Top of 
column".  

But now comes the crucial step, which how you wish to apply this 
formatting.  If the paragraph you are using for your "name of 
person" string already has its own paragraph tag, you can click 
"Update All" to associate the start at top of column property with
that paragraph tag and apply the formatting to all such paragraphs.
If the name string is in a paragraph that has some generic tag (e.g.
Body), you should define a new, specialized tag that incorporates
your formatting by clicking the Commands button and choosing
"New Format". Or you can take the quick and dirty approach of 
applying the top of column property as a format override for this 
specific paragraph by clicking the "Apply" button.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Shell
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:14 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Query on paragraph prrperties for a specific sentence

Hi Framers:
I need to attach "a top of column" tag to a specific string of text, e.g

"name of person". I can do this in PageMaker but am a newbie to
Framemaker 
and am battling at the bottom of the learning curve.

Newbie Shell


Robert C.-H. Shell
Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography
UWC
Courier address:
Room 3,23
Statistics department
New Science Building
University of Western Cape
Modderdam Road
Bellville
7535
Western Cape
Republic of South Africa

Airmail address:
Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell
Room 3,23
Statistics department
New Science Building
Private Bag X17
Bellville
Western Cape 7535
Republic of South Africa
E-mail addresses:
rshell at uwc.ac.za
rshell at iafrica.com
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RE: Unexpected problem with straddling table cells

[Ridder, Fred]

I'm not sure I agree. All you'll need to do for each instance is
delete the middle column of the table and then retag the 
paragraph in the right cell. And maybe resize the right column,
which you can do globally if you have Rick Quatro's wonderful
TableCleaner plug-in and have applied the same table format to
each of the tables. No muss, no fuss.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:45 PM
To: Combs, Richard
Cc: framers List
Subject: Re: Unexpected problem with straddling table cells

Hi Richard -

The route you suggest is probably what we'll end up going with but we 
wanted to explore this other alternative because it's less work when 
upgrading existing docs to the new templates.

Thanks -

Pat

On Nov 17, 2006, at 7:16 AM, Combs, Richard wrote:


 You're right, when you straddle two cells, if one contains an empty 
 pgf,
 that pgf disappears. But you don't need three pgfs, just two. Why do 
 you
 want to make the Caution pgf a run-in head?

 Let's say your current third cell contains a CautionText pgf. Redefine
 it to have Caution as the autonumber (apply a char tag to the
 autonumber so the word Caution looks the way you want it). You don't
 need an empty run-in CautionHead pgf to do something that the 
 autonumber
 property of the following pgf can do.

 HTH!
 Richard


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Unexpected problem with straddling table cells

[Ridder, Fred]

I'm not sure I agree. All you'll need to do for each instance is
delete the middle column of the table and then retag the 
paragraph in the right cell. And maybe resize the right column,
which you can do globally if you have Rick Quatro's wonderful
TableCleaner plug-in and have applied the same table format to
each of the tables. No muss, no fuss.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Staff Information Services Analyst
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:45 PM
To: Combs, Richard
Cc: framers List
Subject: Re: Unexpected problem with straddling table cells

Hi Richard -

The route you suggest is probably what we'll end up going with but we 
wanted to explore this other alternative because it's less work when 
upgrading existing docs to the new templates.

Thanks -

Pat

On Nov 17, 2006, at 7:16 AM, Combs, Richard wrote:
>>
>
> You're right, when you straddle two cells, if one contains an empty 
> pgf,
> that pgf disappears. But you don't need three pgfs, just two. Why do 
> you
> want to make the "Caution" pgf a run-in head?
>
> Let's say your current third cell contains a CautionText pgf. Redefine
> it to have "Caution" as the autonumber (apply a char tag to the
> autonumber so the word "Caution" looks the way you want it). You don't
> need an empty run-in CautionHead pgf to do something that the 
> autonumber
> property of the following pgf can do.
>
> HTH!
> Richard
>
>
> --
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
>
>

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RE: Frame on PC = upgrade the Graphics Card?

[Ridder, Fred]

Rendering for the screen is not the bottleneck. Downloading an image
and/or rendering it internally are *far* slower than the on-screen 
rendering. A high-powered graphics card only makes an improvement 
for things like PhotoShop, 3D rendering applications (e.g. CAD), and 
gaming where millions of pixels have to get calculated for every frame
and the frames need to be refreshed frequently. Rendering a static 
graphic image is not accelerated by a better graphics board.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:22 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame on PC = upgrade the Graphics Card?

Hello all,

Has anyone noticeably improved the rate at which graphics are loaded in
Frame while running on a PC when they upgraded their graphics card? We
are considering doing so here, and I suspect it will make a vast
improvement. Our PCs are pretty current. I don't want to get lost in the
details of hardware configurations etc., but was wondering if anyone had
any success in alleviating the problem

Thanks,
Jim
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Frame on PC = upgrade the Graphics Card?

[Ridder, Fred]

Rendering for the screen is not the bottleneck. Downloading an image
and/or rendering it internally are *far* slower than the on-screen 
rendering. A high-powered graphics card only makes an improvement 
for things like PhotoShop, 3D rendering applications (e.g. CAD), and 
gaming where millions of pixels have to get calculated for every frame
and the frames need to be refreshed frequently. Rendering a static 
graphic image is not accelerated by a better graphics board.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of James Dyson
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:22 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame on PC = upgrade the Graphics Card?

Hello all,

Has anyone noticeably improved the rate at which graphics are loaded in
Frame while running on a PC when they upgraded their graphics card? We
are considering doing so here, and I suspect it will make a vast
improvement. Our PCs are pretty current. I don't want to get lost in the
details of hardware configurations etc., but was wondering if anyone had
any success in alleviating the problem

Thanks,
Jim
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Disabling ad hoc formatting controls in FM

[Ridder, Fred]

Shlomo actually mentioned this specifically in his documentation
for older versions of his Express Customization package. Pretty
strange, but I guess once it's in the code it's there forever... 


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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:54 PM
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Disabling ad hoc formatting controls in FM

Combs, Richard wrote:

> ;12=SEPERATOR, 5

...because he was cutting and pasting.

Yep, that's how Adobe spelled it. Sheesh.

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RE: Disconnected Pages

[Ridder, Fred]

If your headers and footers include titles or headings as well as
the chapter number, you do need to get at least a little fancy
with the Running H/F variables to account for the fact that 
different tags are often used for titles of chapters vs. prefaces
vs. appendixes vs. glossaries. You at least need to know 
how to specify multiple tag names in a $paratext variable. 
Not terribly fancy, I'll admit, but it's surprising how many 
Frame users don't know how to do that.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:22 PM
To: Texan Scriber; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Disconnected Pages

Texan Scriber wrote: 
 
 Does anybody know how to specify the master page to use when 
 the current page is filled with text? I have combined all my 
 master pages into one template file. After I create an 
 Appendix say, and the first page is filled with content, the 
 page that follows does not use the same master page.

Fred Ridder's right: your problems stem from not using the default
master pages. But I'll go further than Fred. There's no good reason not
to use the exact same Left and Right master pages for almost all the
files in a standard book -- certainly for all the chapters and
appendixes. There's nothing fancy with H/F variables required,
assuming you use the $chapnum variable for chapter/appendix numbering.


You probably need different default master pages for an index (typically
2-col layout) and maybe a title-page file. And of course, the custom
master page you use to start a file might have several versions -- say,
First, TOCFirst, TitleFirst, whatever. But what page layout changes are
required going from a chapter to an appendix, or even to frontmatter
(TOC, LOF, etc.) or intro/preface?

My $0.02. 

Richard


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Disconnected Pages

[Ridder, Fred]

Combining everything into one template may sound like a good idea,
but there are a lot of tradeoffs involved for little (if any) real
benefit. 
It *can* be worthwhile to have standardized character catalogs and
paragraph catalogs across all your documents, but one advantage 
of  the FrameMaker document model is that this can be accomplished 
by importing just those catalogs as necessary.

The problem with combining all master pages into one template is 
that you wind up never using the default left/right mater pages, and 
this is what produces the kind of behavior you've described. You'll
wind up having to apply master pages manually to most of the 
pages in most of your documents, and you'll wind up always having 
to delete empty pages at the ends of chapters manually because 
once you apply a non-default master page FrameMaker no longer
considers the page to be truly empty. To my way of thinking, it's
much better to have a separate template for each variation of what
the default pages should look like. Depending on your page design,
you may be able to get fancy with things like the Running H/F
system variables so that you can use the same master page for
appendixes as well as chapters, but there's not much downside 
to simply having different templates with different default master
page designs for the different categories of book components.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Texan Scriber
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:58 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Disconnected Pages

Fellow Framers,

Does anybody know how to specify the master page to use when the current
page is filled with text? I have combined all my master pages into one
template file. After I create an Appendix say, and the first page is
filled
with content, the page that follows does not use the same master page.

Also, if a chapter had n number of pages and some text was deleted, the
chapter no longer ends in even pages like it used to, it leaves all
those
white blank pages that have to be manually deleted.

Appreciate sharing your experience with Frame.
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Disconnected Pages

[Ridder, Fred]

If your headers and footers include titles or headings as well as
the chapter number, you do need to get at least a little "fancy"
with the Running H/F variables to account for the fact that 
different tags are often used for titles of chapters vs. prefaces
vs. appendixes vs. glossaries. You at least need to know 
how to specify multiple tag names in a $paratext variable. 
Not terribly fancy, I'll admit, but it's surprising how many 
Frame users don't know how to do that.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:22 PM
To: Texan Scriber; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Disconnected Pages

Texan Scriber wrote: 

> Does anybody know how to specify the master page to use when 
> the current page is filled with text? I have combined all my 
> master pages into one template file. After I create an 
> Appendix say, and the first page is filled with content, the 
> page that follows does not use the same master page.

Fred Ridder's right: your problems stem from not using the default
master pages. But I'll go further than Fred. There's no good reason not
to use the exact same Left and Right master pages for almost all the
files in a standard book -- certainly for all the chapters and
appendixes. There's nothing "fancy" with H/F variables required,
assuming you use the <$chapnum> variable for chapter/appendix numbering.


You probably need different default master pages for an index (typically
2-col layout) and maybe a title-page file. And of course, the custom
master page you use to start a file might have several versions -- say,
First, TOCFirst, TitleFirst, whatever. But what page layout changes are
required going from a chapter to an appendix, or even to frontmatter
(TOC, LOF, etc.) or intro/preface?

My $0.02. 

Richard


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RE: Remove Change Bars

[Ridder, Fred]

If you do a Find operation for the character format Change Bar
to review each alleged change, you can manually remove the bar 
from any specific instance of the change markup by using the 
Character Designer. When the Find operation highlights an 
instance you want to remove, click the Change Bar checkbox 
*twice* to change it from a black checkmark to an empty checkbox
(the first click changes the black checkmark to a gray, as-is 
checkmark), then click Apply (*not* Update All). The display may 
or may not update immediately, so you may have to use Ctrl-L 
to force FrameMaker to redraw the screen (boy, do I wish Adobe 
would fix *that* shortcoming of FrameMaker...).

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 
 

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:44 AM
To: Paul Kent
Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Remove Change Bars

At 07:39 -0800 30/10/06, Paul Kent wrote:

I've discovered that I can search for the condition tags, delete the
inserted instance, remove the deleted condition and the phantom
change is almost removed. However, I've not yet figured out how to
remove the change bars.

In FrameMaker change bars are a character attribute.

To remove all change bars, Format - Document - Change Bars... from
document or book.

To selectively remove individual change bars from a text range, create a
character tag set to all 'As is' except no change bars, and apply it as
required.

There may be other, guru-level Black Belt methods, but these work for
me.

HTH
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Remove Change Bars

[Ridder, Fred]

If you do a Find operation for the character format "Change Bar"
to review each alleged change, you can manually remove the bar 
from any specific instance of the change markup by using the 
Character Designer. When the Find operation highlights an 
instance you want to remove, click the Change Bar checkbox 
*twice* to change it from a black checkmark to an empty checkbox
(the first click changes the black checkmark to a gray, as-is 
checkmark), then click Apply (*not* Update All). The display may 
or may not update immediately, so you may have to use Ctrl-L 
to force FrameMaker to redraw the screen (boy, do I wish Adobe 
would fix *that* shortcoming of FrameMaker...).

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ




-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:44 AM
To: Paul Kent
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Remove Change Bars

At 07:39 -0800 30/10/06, Paul Kent wrote:

>I've discovered that I can search for the condition tags, delete the
>"inserted" instance, remove the "deleted" condition and the phantom
>change is almost removed. However, I've not yet figured out how to
>remove the change bars.

In FrameMaker change bars are a character attribute.

To remove all change bars, Format -> Document -> Change Bars... from
document or book.

To selectively remove individual change bars from a text range, create a
character tag set to all 'As is' except no change bars, and apply it as
required.

There may be other, guru-level Black Belt methods, but these work for
me.

HTH
-- 
Steve

RE: How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

[Ridder, Fred]

I suspect that you're seeing the result of FrameMaker's handling of
tab stops.  I'm guessing that the paragraph tag that is being used for 
the collected glossary items lacks a defined tab stop position.
Without one or more defined tab positions (and the default is to have
none), you can type as many tab characters as you want (manually 
or via an escape code in a dialog box), and FrameMaker won't budge
so much as a single point.  Open the Paragraph Designer from your
glossary file and make sure that the Basic properties sheet shows
a tab defined at an appropriate location.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:53 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

I have a generated file for my acronyms and abbreviations. I am using FM
on
a PC.
When we used FM on a MAC we would just put in the Marker box (Glossary)
and
type:

JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
And then press edit marker

Once we are done with marking all other acronyms, we would generate the
file. 
It would put the tab for us and we would have  list:
JHU/APL The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
etc..


On the PC side when we do this we do not get the Tab in our generated
file
It shows up as:
JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

No Tab.

How do I put in a tab in the Marker box and get it to generate properly?



Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748

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RE: page numbering

[Ridder, Fred]

Here's one direct (i.e. brute force) approach:

If page 131 is in the middle of a chapter, split the chapter into two
files, one that ends with page 131 and one that starts with page
132. Set the pagination for the first half to Delete empty pages
and set the pagination for the second half to start on Next
available (which option is only available from the book window)
or Left if you're working with duplex pages. Change the numbering 
properties of the second half from Continue from previous file to 
start with 132. If page 131 is already the last page in a chapter 
you skip the step if splitting the chapter.

Then just make the new content a separate file that you'll include 
in the book between the two halves. Modify this file's master page(s)
to use a two-part page number, one half of which will be the regular 
page number system variable that you'll set to use numeric format
beginning with a or A, and the other half of which is the text 
string 131 (or 131- if you prefer).  You can either enter that text
directly on the master page, or use the $volnum system variable 
if you're not already using it.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: page numbering

Hi all,

Is there a way to override the page numbering for a single page in a
document in Frame 7.0? I'm working on a revision to a manual. In this
revision, I need to add new information to a chapter that is 176 pages
long.
The new information needs to go after page 31, which means that not only
would this page be included in the revision, but all the subsequent
pages
would have to be added, as well, because even thought the information is
the
same, the page numbers all shifted by one. I'd rather not print 146
pages
when I only need to make one page of actual content change. So, is there
a
way to add a page and call it 31-a, without causing all the other page
numbers to change? I tried to search the archives on the FrameUsers
website,
but it appears the site is temporarily down.

Thanks,
dave.

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page numbering

[Ridder, Fred]

Here's one direct (i.e. brute force) approach:

If page 131 is in the middle of a chapter, split the chapter into two
files, one that ends with page 131 and one that starts with page
132. Set the pagination for the first half to "Delete empty pages"
and set the pagination for the second half to start on "Next
available" (which option is only available from the book window)
or "Left" if you're working with duplex pages. Change the numbering 
properties of the second half from "Continue from previous file" to 
start with 132. If page 131 is already the last page in a chapter 
you skip the step if splitting the chapter.

Then just make the new content a separate file that you'll include 
in the book between the two halves. Modify this file's master page(s)
to use a two-part page number, one half of which will be the regular 
page number system variable that you'll set to use numeric format
beginning with "a" or "A", and the other half of which is the text 
string "131" (or "131-" if you prefer).  You can either enter that text
directly on the master page, or use the $volnum system variable 
if you're not already using it.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of dave kerschbaum
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:46 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: page numbering

Hi all,

Is there a way to override the page numbering for a single page in a
document in Frame 7.0? I'm working on a revision to a manual. In this
revision, I need to add new information to a chapter that is 176 pages
long.
The new information needs to go after page 31, which means that not only
would this page be included in the revision, but all the subsequent
pages
would have to be added, as well, because even thought the information is
the
same, the page numbers all shifted by one. I'd rather not print 146
pages
when I only need to make one page of actual content change. So, is there
a
way to add a page and call it 31-a, without causing all the other page
numbers to change? I tried to search the archives on the FrameUsers
website,
but it appears the site is temporarily down.

Thanks,
dave.

-- 
If you're having trouble getting inspired about something,
it's probably because you're temporarily lacking inspiration.
That's what you need. You need inspiration.
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How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

[Ridder, Fred]

I suspect that you're seeing the result of FrameMaker's handling of
tab stops.  I'm guessing that the paragraph tag that is being used for 
the collected glossary items lacks a defined tab stop position.
Without one or more defined tab positions (and the default is to have
none), you can type as many tab characters as you want (manually 
or via an escape code in a dialog box), and FrameMaker won't budge
so much as a single point.  Open the Paragraph Designer from your
glossary file and make sure that the Basic properties sheet shows
a tab defined at an appropriate location.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brenda Waltermeyer
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:53 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: How do I add a Tab to a Marker using Glossary

I have a generated file for my acronyms and abbreviations. I am using FM
on
a PC.
When we used FM on a MAC we would just put in the Marker box (Glossary)
and
type:

JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
And then press edit marker

Once we are done with marking all other acronyms, we would generate the
file. 
It would put the tab for us and we would have  list:
JHU/APL The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
etc..


On the PC side when we do this we do not get the Tab in our generated
file
It shows up as:
JHU/APL\tThe Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

No Tab.

How do I put in a tab in the Marker box and get it to generate properly?



Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748

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RE: Different endings when typing continuous letters

[Ridder, Fred]

Janet Underwood wrote:

One of my students has asked a question I've never encountered or
thought 
about before. He asks why he can type the letter d continuously and
the 
line will go all the way to the right margin, but if he types the
letter x 
continuously on a line, it wraps to the next line before reaching the
right 
margin. He points out that other letters end at different places and
then 
wrap to the next line. Any ideas?

In the interest of improved legibility on relatively low resolution 
devices like CRT or LCD monitors, the default configuration for
FrameMaker's screen display allows uses fixed widths for 
individual glyphs that may differ slightly (by sub-pixel amounts) 
from the width of the same glyph as reproduced by a relatively 
high resolution devices like laser printers. The line-wrapping 
logic, on the other hand, always uses the printer metrics (the
precise widths of the individual glyphs as reported by the 
printer driver) when determining where to break lines. 

In normal text using a proportional font and not using fully
justified alignment, the positive and negative deviations in width 
(the amount by which screen characters are wider than or 
narrower than the corresponding printed characters) tend to 
average out and you won't notice large deviations in line lengths.
(In fully justified text, you won't see line length difference at 
all because the inter-word spaces are adjusted to make all 
the lines equal length.) But if you repeat the same character
over and over, the width differences accumulate and line length
differences between become very noticeable. The line wrap
logic only displays as many characters per line as the specific
printer will actually produce, but the on-screen display of that
line may be narrower or wider than the printed line. In cases 
the on-screen display may show lines extending beyond the 
right-hand margin (or in extreme cases, commonly with 
monospace fonts, even beyond the page edge) in the on-screen
display. In the specific case you cite, the screen metrics of the 
d glyph apparent match the printer metrics fairly well, while
the screen version of the x glyph is apparently narrower than
the printed character. 

It's interesting to note that in the kind of test you describe 
(repeated characters with no spaces) you'll actually see the 
line length differences with a fully justified alignment as 
well as a ragged-right alignment because there are no 
inter-word spaces for FrameMaker to fudge to make things 
come out right. It's also worthwhile to note that the magnitude 
of the line length deviations (both absolute magnitude and 
relative magnitude between specific character pairs) will 
change as you change fonts (each font has its own unique 
metrics with different round-off errors for low-resolution display), 
when you change Windows printers (the font metrics come 
from the printer driver, and there may be subtle differences 
from one model to another), and when you change the 
FrameMaker zoom factor (the sub-pixel round-off errors are
a much smaller percentage of the on-screen character widths
at higher zoom factors).

But if you prefer to see the actual lengths of text lines in the
on-screen display, the Windows version of FrameMaker allows 
you to force the display to match the printer metrics, but with
some small sacrifice in the rendition of individual glyphs (a few
letter shapes may be slightly distorted in some lines) and 
inter-glyph spacing (some letters in some words may touch
or may appear to have extra space between them), particularly
with FrameMaker set to 100% or smaller. All you need to do is
open the maker.ini file (in the base FrameMaker installation 
directory) with a text editor and alter the value of the 
DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics parameter from its default Off
to On. (This item is about half-way down in the file, which
is many hundreds of line long.) Remember to quit FrameMaker 
before editing maker.ini and to save the edited file as plain
text if you are using a word processor to do the editing.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
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Different endings when typing continuous letters

[Ridder, Fred]

Janet Underwood wrote:

>One of my students has asked a question I've never encountered or
thought 
>about before. He asks why he can type the letter "d" continuously and
the 
>line will go all the way to the right margin, but if he types the
letter "x" 
>continuously on a line, it wraps to the next line before reaching the
right 
>margin. He points out that other letters end at different places and
then 
>wrap to the next line. Any ideas?

In the interest of improved legibility on relatively low resolution 
devices like CRT or LCD monitors, the default configuration for
FrameMaker's screen display allows uses fixed widths for 
individual glyphs that may differ slightly (by sub-pixel amounts) 
from the width of the same glyph as reproduced by a relatively 
high resolution devices like laser printers. The line-wrapping 
logic, on the other hand, always uses the printer metrics (the
precise widths of the individual glyphs as reported by the 
printer driver) when determining where to break lines. 

In normal text using a proportional font and not using fully
justified alignment, the positive and negative deviations in width 
(the amount by which screen characters are wider than or 
narrower than the corresponding printed characters) tend to 
average out and you won't notice large deviations in line lengths.
(In fully justified text, you won't see line length difference at 
all because the inter-word spaces are adjusted to make all 
the lines equal length.) But if you repeat the same character
over and over, the width differences accumulate and line length
differences between become very noticeable. The line wrap
logic only displays as many characters per line as the specific
printer will actually produce, but the on-screen display of that
line may be narrower or wider than the printed line. In cases 
the on-screen display may show lines extending beyond the 
right-hand margin (or in extreme cases, commonly with 
monospace fonts, even beyond the page edge) in the on-screen
display. In the specific case you cite, the screen metrics of the 
"d" glyph apparent match the printer metrics fairly well, while
the screen version of the "x" glyph is apparently narrower than
the printed character. 

It's interesting to note that in the kind of test you describe 
(repeated characters with no spaces) you'll actually see the 
line length differences with a fully justified alignment as 
well as a ragged-right alignment because there are no 
inter-word spaces for FrameMaker to "fudge" to make things 
come out right. It's also worthwhile to note that the magnitude 
of the line length deviations (both absolute magnitude and 
relative magnitude between specific character pairs) will 
change as you change fonts (each font has its own unique 
metrics with different round-off errors for low-resolution display), 
when you change Windows printers (the font metrics come 
from the printer driver, and there may be subtle differences 
from one model to another), and when you change the 
FrameMaker zoom factor (the sub-pixel round-off errors are
a much smaller percentage of the on-screen character widths
at higher zoom factors).

But if you prefer to see the actual lengths of text lines in the
on-screen display, the Windows version of FrameMaker allows 
you to force the display to match the printer metrics, but with
some small sacrifice in the rendition of individual glyphs (a few
letter shapes may be slightly distorted in some lines) and 
inter-glyph spacing (some letters in some words may touch
or may appear to have extra space between them), particularly
with FrameMaker set to 100% or smaller. All you need to do is
open the maker.ini file (in the base FrameMaker installation 
directory) with a text editor and alter the value of the 
DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics parameter from its default "Off"
to "On". (This item is about half-way down in the file, which
is many hundreds of line long.) Remember to quit FrameMaker 
before editing maker.ini and to save the edited file as plain
text if you are using a word processor to do the editing.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

RE: Disappearing text using Save As to PDF

[Ridder, Fred]

But under the circumstances you describe, printing to the Adobe PDF
virtual printer is every bit as quick and easy as using Save As PDF,
(assuming that it is your default printer so that you don't have to 
change printers), while having none of the gotchas of the Save As... 
method.  

Personally, I leave the Adobe PDF printer as my Windows default, 
because 75% of the time that I'm printing a hard copy it's useful to 
have a PDF as well as the hard copy.  But if you can't live with 
that approach, get the free SetPrint plug-in from Sundorne
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm
This tool allows you to set up Adobe PDF as the default printer 
*within*FM*, while leaving your regular h/w printer as the default for
all other applications. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:33 AM
To: Shlomo Perets
Cc: Framers@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Disappearing text using Save As to PDF

Thank you, Schlomo,

I normally do print to .ps and distill using the watched folders
feature. 
However, working on new development projects, I am constantly being
asked 
for drafts of books other than the ones I am working on. Also, I often 
have to publish specific page ranges. When it was working, the Save As 
feature was a nice, quick shortcut. 

I did get the Save As to work by deselecting the Generate Tagged PDF and

using the High Quality Print job option. The Press Quality job option 
still erased text--both inside and outside of tables--even with tagged
PDF 
deselected. 

So odd.

Jessica Nealon
Technical Writer




Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject
Re: Disappearing text using Save As to PDF






Jessica,

You wrote:

  ... When I use Save As to PDF my books, whole chunks of text
disappear 
in the
  PDF file. It appears to be totally random. For instance, one table
will
  have several blank rows blank followed by competed rows.  ...

Turn off Generate Tagged PDF, which may cause some text to be
invisible, 

in conjunction with Save as PDF
(see http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM71 for a link to a sample 
file 
demonstrating this problem).

Better yet, avoid using Save as PDF -- instead, print to a .ps file
and 
distill.

If the problem persists, additional items to check are the PS driver 
resolution and (less likely) the fonts being used.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting  add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat






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Disappearing text using Save As to PDF

[Ridder, Fred]

But under the circumstances you describe, printing to the Adobe PDF
virtual printer is every bit as quick and easy as using Save As PDF,
(assuming that it is your default printer so that you don't have to 
change printers), while having none of the gotchas of the Save As... 
method.  

Personally, I leave the Adobe PDF printer as my Windows default, 
because 75% of the time that I'm printing a hard copy it's useful to 
have a PDF as well as the hard copy.  But if you can't live with 
that approach, get the free SetPrint plug-in from Sundorne
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm
This tool allows you to set up Adobe PDF as the default printer 
*within*FM*, while leaving your regular h/w printer as the default for
all other applications. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jessica.Nealon at handheld.com
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:33 AM
To: Shlomo Perets
Cc: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Disappearing text using Save As to PDF

Thank you, Schlomo,

I normally do print to .ps and distill using the watched folders
feature. 
However, working on new development projects, I am constantly being
asked 
for drafts of books other than the ones I am working on. Also, I often 
have to publish specific page ranges. When it was working, the Save As 
feature was a nice, quick shortcut. 

I did get the Save As to work by deselecting the Generate Tagged PDF and

using the High Quality Print job option. The Press Quality job option 
still erased text--both inside and outside of tables--even with tagged
PDF 
deselected. 

So odd.

Jessica Nealon
Technical Writer




Shlomo Perets  
10/15/2006 10:39 AM

To
Jessica.Nealon at handheld.com
cc
Framers at frameusers.com
Subject
Re: Disappearing text using Save As to PDF






Jessica,

You wrote:

 > ... When I use Save As to PDF my books, whole chunks of text
disappear 
in the
 > PDF file. It appears to be totally random. For instance, one table
will
 > have several blank rows blank followed by competed rows.  ...

Turn off "Generate Tagged PDF", which may cause some text to be
invisible, 

in conjunction with "Save as PDF"
(see http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM71 for a link to a sample 
file 
demonstrating this problem).

Better yet, avoid using "Save as PDF" -- instead, print to a .ps file
and 
distill.

If the problem persists, additional items to check are the PS driver 
resolution and (less likely) the fonts being used.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat






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Continuous Numbering in framemaker

[Ridder, Fred]

One way is to insert an empty paragraph with a special tag at the 
end of the chapter file, and then use a cross-reference (with an 
x-ref format that picks up only the page number via the <$pagenum>
building block) whenever you need the total page count.

Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Staff Information Services Analyst
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:41 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Continuous Numbering in framemaker

Hi All,

I am in the process of migrating existing draft documentation in Word to
final version documentation in Framemaker. The old Word documentation
was but a single file - the first page was reserved for cover
information, the second page was Word's TOC, and the remaining pages
were the content of the document. The old numbering scheme, beginning
with the first page was Page # of #, which for a single document in
Word, worked fine. In Framemaker, I have split up this large document
into three separate files - Cover File, TOC, and the Chapter document. I
have been asked to keep the numbering scheme the same - Page # of Total
Page Count. I know how to keep the numbering continuous across the
files, but the system variable that keeps total page count is obviously
on a per file basis. For example, the singe Cover page file has no
number, but the first page of the TOC says page 2 of 4 (because it is
the second page in the book, and there are four pages in the TOC total),
so the next page says Page 3 of 4 and the final page says Page 4 of 4.
When I open the document chapter, it says Page 5 of 19, because the
first page of the content chapter is indeed the fifth page in the book,
but there are 19 pages in the Content chapter. What do I need to do to
get this to number the same way as Word - if it's possible for files in
a book? I want the first page of the TOC to say page 4 of 24, the second
page to say page 5 of 24, etc. and I want the first page of the Content
Chapter to say Page 5 of 24, etc.

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
InsureWorx
303-729-7733
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RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Ridder, Fred]

Oops, just noticed that you are using PDF Writer. That's the
problem, right there. PDF Writer is a quick and dirty PDF
creation tool that does not produce hyperlinks. To get links
in your PDF, you must use a method that uses Acrobat
Distiller (printing to the Adobe PDF printer, printing to 
a PostScript file and distilling, etc.) and you must use the 
setting I mentioned in my previous response. 

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:55 AM
To: 'Roopa Belur'; Framers
Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Do you have the Generate Acrobat Data option enabled in the Print
dialog?  That's the most commonly missed essential setting... 

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Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here
   
  Thanks,
Roopa Belur




  
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Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Ridder, Fred]

Do you have the "Generate Acrobat Data" option enabled in the Print
dialog?  That's the most commonly missed essential setting... 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Roopa Belur
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:39 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here

  Thanks,
Roopa Belur





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Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

[Ridder, Fred]

Oops, just noticed that you are using PDF Writer. That's the
problem, right there. PDF Writer is a "quick and dirty" PDF
creation tool that does not produce hyperlinks. To get links
in your PDF, you must use a method that uses Acrobat
Distiller (printing to the "Adobe PDF" printer, printing to 
a PostScript file and distilling, etc.) and you must use the 
setting I mentioned in my previous response. 

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:55 AM
To: 'Roopa Belur'; Framers
Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Do you have the "Generate Acrobat Data" option enabled in the Print
dialog?  That's the most commonly missed essential setting... 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Roopa Belur
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:39 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF Writer does not make links

Folks, running into a PDF issue here. The Frame TOC works just fine,
however the moment i make a PDF using Adobe Acrobe 7.0, the links in TOC
stop working. Any setting I am missing here

  Thanks,
Roopa Belur





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RE: FrameLink

[Ridder, Fred]

FrameLink was a good product, and there was a separate version for
FrameMaker+SGML.  But Datalogics never did a version that worked
with the structured mode of FrameMaker 7.x.  Instead, they made a 
decision that as of the spring of 2005 they were no longer supporting
the product. It's a dead end. Until our product group was sold by the
our parent company, we were still using FrameLink with FM7.1 in
unstructured mode, and living with the handful of bugs that still
existed
(Datalogics became *very* slow to respond to reported issues over the
last year or so that they were still nominally supporting FrameLink, 
and we should have seen the handwriting on the wall). The company 
that bought the product group is not planning to use FrameLink
because it is not compatible with their new FrameMaker 7.2 licenses 
(multiple undo seems to have broken FrameLink compatibility) and
they don't want to go to the trouble of obtaining licenses to v7.1 (or 
older) and staying locked in to that old version of the tool. 

My opinion only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:02 PM
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Subject: FrameLink

Dear Framers,

Does anybody have any experience with the Framelink tool, to integrate
Frame
with CMS (Documentum)?

I see on their website, where it talks about Frame+SGML integration -
does
it work with Structured Frame/XML, too?

Apprec any info - thanks!

 

Steve Gillespie, PMP
Sr Information Development Analyst
FedEx Express
Memphis, TN 38125
901.434.9982

 


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FrameLink

[Ridder, Fred]

FrameLink was a good product, and there was a separate version for
FrameMaker+SGML.  But Datalogics never did a version that worked
with the structured mode of FrameMaker 7.x.  Instead, they made a 
decision that as of the spring of 2005 they were no longer supporting
the product. It's a dead end. Until our product group was sold by the
our parent company, we were still using FrameLink with FM7.1 in
unstructured mode, and living with the handful of bugs that still
existed
(Datalogics became *very* slow to respond to reported issues over the
last year or so that they were still nominally supporting FrameLink, 
and we should have seen the handwriting on the wall). The company 
that bought the product group is not planning to use FrameLink
because it is not compatible with their new FrameMaker 7.2 licenses 
(multiple undo seems to have broken FrameLink compatibility) and
they don't want to go to the trouble of obtaining licenses to v7.1 (or 
older) and staying locked in to that old version of the tool. 

My opinion only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

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Behalf Of Stephen C. Gillespie Sr
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:02 PM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameLink

Dear Framers,

Does anybody have any experience with the Framelink tool, to integrate
Frame
with CMS (Documentum)?

I see on their website, where it talks about Frame+SGML integration -
does
it work with Structured Frame/XML, too?

Apprec any info - thanks!



Steve Gillespie, PMP
Sr Information Development Analyst
FedEx Express
Memphis, TN 38125
901.434.9982




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