[Gimp-user] Preview in CMYK
I know there is a function in Gimp for a preview using the CMYK gamut with the out of gamut colors marked in a special color, often a light green. I have forgotten how to activate it. The manual didn't seem to cover it. Help appreciated. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:31:13 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > As software GIMP isn't defined by its developers through competition > against any other software. Hence GIMP dosn't aim to compete against > anything else, it aims to suit the needs of professionals. Understood. Professionals in the world of the printed word need CMYK. > > -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:38:20 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM, john Culleton wrote: > > > > About once a year I ask about a capability to output a file from > > Gimp in pdf format and the CMYK color model. In addition it would be > > nice if this output was in the PDF X/1-a:2001 format, to satisfy > > certain fussy printers. I know there are external converters like > > ImageMagick. It would however be nice if after all these years Gimp > > catered to the needs of the printing industry. > > GIMP only got PDF exporting in upcoming v2.8. This exporter uses > Cairo. Cairo doesn't support CMYk and spot colors. Therefore > requesting CMYK PDF exporting will start making sense only after Cairo > gets support for CMYK and spot colors. > > Alexandre Prokoudine > http://libregraphicsworld.org > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user I am reminded of my old sergeant in Korea who told me: "Young soldier, don't tell me why you can't do it---tell me how you did it." Scribus does CMYK. Scribus also uses Cairo. If Gimp ever hopes to compete on an even keel with PhotoShop or even Scribus it should offer CMYK output too. It is an absolute requirement for printed output. While we are on the topic of outputs, for years the PostScript output from Gimp has had default X and Y offset values of 5mm. The default should be zero of course. I used to go in and patch the source code for Gimp to zero out the offset defaults. Now I don't bother any more. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] opening CMYK psd
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:26:42 +0200 bobdobbs wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm using gimp 2.6.10 on ubuntu 10.10. I have a layered psd that has > been edited using a CMYK colour profile. I'd like to open it. When I > try, gimp gives me the error: > > Error loading PSD file: Unsupported color mode: CMYK > > Googling around gets me some interesting solutions. One is to use > imagemagicks 'convert' to create each layer as a png. When I tried > this, I got a whole bunch of generically named layers. Most of the > conversions had failed, resulting in transparent png's with no > content. > > > I found this thread, nearly three years old, on ubuntuforums: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958470 > > One of the solutions proposed in it is to use a seperation filter > that that has been created as a plugin. I found the homepage for such > a plugin. It had a warning that the plugin should not be used, with a > broken link to a better one to use. > > I also found this: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CMYK_support_in_The_GIMP#CMYK_color_and_The_GIMP > > This provides some information on the issue, and a link to a plugin > package to help remedy. However, the plugin is about four years old. > > Is this a solved problem yet? Is it possible to open CMYK psd's in > gimp? Thanks. > Scribus will import PSD and export e.g. png or tiff in RGB model. However once you are in Scribus you may find that most of what you need to do can be done in CMYK in that program. My rule is: if headed toward web presentation work in RGB, if headed for print work in CMYK. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
About once a year I ask about a capability to output a file from Gimp in pdf format and the CMYK color model. In addition it would be nice if this output was in the PDF X/1-a:2001 format, to satisfy certain fussy printers. I know there are external converters like ImageMagick. It would however be nice if after all these years Gimp catered to the needs of the printing industry. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] fixing file browser
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:36:07 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > I am running GIMP 2.6...and noticed lately that the file type chooser > type box is almost useless. When you click on the type a long thin > box opens and you can't see the types. > > You can see what I mean here : > > http://imagebin.org/172855 > > Can anyone suggest what's wrong ? > > > You could click on the edge and pull it out. I use Gimp 2.6.11 on Slackware Linux. What do you use exactly? -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] please unsubscribe me
On Thursday, August 04, 2011 04:16:19 pm sandy rice wrote: > thks Do it yourself here: https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 04:33:43 am Ofnuts wrote: > On 07/30/2011 10:33 PM, John Culleton wrote: > > I have a different problem. I am processing a series of screen shots > > through Gimp to desaturate them (color pages cost more then B/W > > pages.) Each time I retrieve a screen shot from: > > > > /usr/local/active/scribusp > > > > and desaturate it I must chase down the entire file tree to save it > > again in > > > > /usr/local/active/scribusp. > > > > I think Gimp should remember the directory from which an image was > > loaded. > > > > Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux. > > This is the way it works... Maybe Gimp gets shy because /usr and > /usr/local aren't writable by non-root users? On my machine /usr/local/ is writable by my own user name. In fact my own user name owns /usr/local and all its subordinates. So rights are not the problem. I just have to go through more clicks than is reasonable just to get back to where I started. -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 03:22:55 pm saluk wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Maerz wrote: > >> On this topic, I have a question. With this new "Save" and "Export" > >> feature, will it be possible to save an .xcf and export the image all > >> at once? As in I press save, and two files are generated (or > >> overwritten). > > > >You will have to script it, at least for now :) > > > >Alexandre Prokoudine > >http://libregraphicsworld.org > > This workflow is troubling. I don't work with xcf, but with real image > formats (png, jpg). The old way had its problems (always asking what > settings to use for export), but this isn't any better. I now have no way > to see if I have exported my image or not, because the change indicator is > not updated when the image is exported. Also, if you are going to display > a warning message when I try to save as jpg, you might as well handle the > exporting there as before. Leave the new export workflow as is, but its > restrictive to only use xcf as the "native" image type, when depending on > what I'm working on I may want a different "native" type, while yet > exporting to something else. > > Back to 2.6 for me :( I have a different problem. I am processing a series of screen shots through Gimp to desaturate them (color pages cost more then B/W pages.) Each time I retrieve a screen shot from: /usr/local/active/scribusp and desaturate it I must chase down the entire file tree to save it again in /usr/local/active/scribusp. I think Gimp should remember the directory from which an image was loaded. Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] emboss filter.
The emboss filter works fine but it converts text to silver/gray. I would rather have a yellow/gold shade. Is there a way, short of rewriting the C code, to achieve this effect? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
On Monday, July 25, 2011 05:12:05 pm Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:41 AM, John Culleton wrote: > >> > I downloaded gimpscripter.py and placed it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python > >> > >> What did you do that for? > > > > Because I didn't know where I should put it. > > Ah, maybe you mean http://registry.gimp.org/node/25305? :) Well, that > should go to /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/ if you absolutely want it > installed for all users in the system. > > For reference on add-ons installation and management you can use > http://libregraphicsworld.org/articles.php?article_id=30 > > Alexandre Prokoudine > http://libregraphicsworld.org > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp- user Like many installations, I am the only user of the computer. So I put it there. Now it appears at the foot of the filter menu. Progress! I create a canvas and click on gimpscripter. Should not a window appear? If not how do I terminate my gimpscripter session? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
On Monday, July 25, 2011 04:38:59 pm Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, John Culleton wrote: > > One of them showed up on the xtns menu sequence, the other didn't. > > Use Help > Plug-In Browser for finding your scripts and plugins. > > http://docs.gimp.org/en/plug-in-plug-in-details.html > > > I downloaded gimpscripter.py and placed it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python > > What did you do that for? > > Alexandre Prokoudine > http://libregraphicsworld.org > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp- user Because I didn't know where I should put it. -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
On Monday, July 25, 2011 03:55:35 pm John Culleton wrote: > I downloaded two scm files and copied them to > /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/ > Now how do I get them to show up in the file->create- >logo > menu? One of them showed up on the xtns menu sequence, the other didn't. Anyhow on to the next problem. I downloaded gimpscripter.py and placed it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python When I run it stand alone it says it must be run from within Gimp. How do I access it from within Gimp 2.6.11? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
I downloaded two scm files and copied them to /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/ Now how do I get them to show up in the file->create->logo menu? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Scheme to python-fu
I am interested in rewriting some of the logo scripts in Python. I feel that an investment in learning Python will be more productive than trying to learn Scheme. I have two questions: 1. Is there a stash somewhere of python scripts for Gimp? The few that come with the distro help one to interface to Gimp but are not apps themselves. Hopefully someone somewhare has tranlated some of the logo scripts to python. 2. Are there any advantages to using 2.7 instead of 2.6.11 with respect to python scripting? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Fonts
On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 09:21:49 am crutledge wrote: > Is there any way to make gimp ignore the windows fonts and use only those > in the gimp font folder? Use Linux? (Ducks and runs) :<) -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] UFRaw default settings
On Friday, July 15, 2011 02:13:49 pm Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Mikael Ståldal wrote: > > > Luckily Darktable exists now so one doesn't have to bother with UFRaw > > > on Linux anymore. > > > > What advantages does Darktable offer over GIMP with UFRaw plugin? > > 32bit per color channel precision > LAB as main processing color space > Threaded processing, OpenCL support > Non-destructive editing > Nice color adjustment and artistic tools. > > Alexandre Prokoudine > http://libregraphicsworld.org > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp- user I am a total novice with using RAW format. But no guts no glory. I had taken two shots in RAF (Fuji RAW) format of a color wheel. When I import them into Darktable they come up greenish. What do I do next? Do I need a special profile for the Fuji camera? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp in Unity
On Friday, July 08, 2011 07:46:08 am Jerome wrote: > I'm not sure if Gimp developers are able to assist, but running Gimp in > Unity seems to be a bit problematic at times. Because of the global menu, > focus on the correct toolbox / area is needed. Furthermore, Unity / Gimp > seems to apply the focusing a bit unintelligently. For example, if I move > to another workspace and return to the Gimp workspace, the focus is no > longer on the main window, but rather on the toolbox. > > Thoughts? What is Unity? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Writing a book
I am writing a book, a paperback extension and revision of my e-book listed below. The new book will feature Gimp and Inkscape as well as well as Scribus. One invariant quality of any book on Open Source software is that it refers to an obsolete version of said software. I currently have and use Gimp 2.6.11. That said, is the release of 2.8 expected wtihin three months? If so I will use screen shots from 2.7.x. Otherwise I will stick to 2.6.11 for my reference version. The UI is quite different so that the choice is not trivial. Yes, I know, 2.8 will be ready when it is ready. I am just asking for a best guess based on prior history of Gimp releases and the complexities of this one. -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 09:39:39 am Baughman, Richard P USA CIV (US) wrote: > Good morning, > > Have a customer requesting GIMP 2.6.x for project starting within 2 weeks. > > IT department requires the software to be tested and approved prior to any > new software being installed within our Enterprise. > > Basically I understand GIMP to operate at the desktop... > It is an application that receives services from the OS > > ? what system ports (if any) are utilized by GIMP > ? does the program traverse internet (80, 8080, 443 etc ) > ? are there any known vulnerabilities > > Appreciate your time and assistance. > > Thanks > Rick > > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Gimp is an Open Source program that runs on MSWin, OS X and Linux. It is similar in purpose to Photoshop but does not produce CMYK output, just RGB. To install Gimp you download it over the Internet. Please visit http://www.gimp.org for details. The user can click on the help facility and view the Gimp Manual in an html viewer. Other than that there is no operational connection to the internet. No ports are opened. It is a stand-alone local program. Gimp has been in use for many years on many systems in many shops. It is not scary. I know of no vulnarabilities. But I operate on Linux where vulnerabilities are seldom an issue. -- John Culleton Former manager, Systems Application Programming, Link Group, Singer-General Precision Former manager, Systems and Data Processing, Penberthy Div of Houdaille Industries. Former Chief, Automated Systems Office, Baltimore City Department of Social Services. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Do you use a tablet with Gimp?
Do you use a tablet with Gimp? If so, which one? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Short book review: GIMP 2.6 Cookbook
On Sunday, June 26, 2011 10:50:09 am Mikael Ståldal wrote: > On 2011-06-26 15:11, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > 2nd edition of "Beginning GIMP" was published in 2008, while the book > > in question is from 2011. Discounts tend to grow as books grow older. > > > > Beginning GIMP was $49.99 originally > > GIMP 2.6 Cookbook was $40.49 originally. > > Fair enough, but considering the difference in page number I guess that > printing it in color would have made it at most 10 percent more expensive. > > So I still think it was outright stupid to print it without color. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It all depends on whether the book was printed offset or digital. -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotation witout cropping.
On Saturday, June 25, 2011 06:50:04 pm Daniel Hornung wrote: > Hi John, > do you rotate the layer or the image? > > Cheers, > Daniel The image, using the tool on the left hand tool palette. How do I rotate both simultaneously? -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Rotation witout cropping.
When I open a rectangular photographic image (JPG) and rotate it 90 degrees, the canvas remains the same and the ends of the photo are cropped. I there a way to rotate the whole shebang so this cropping doesn't happen? Telling the canvas to resize to the picture doesn't seem to work for me. Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Default image dpi
When I import JPG images from my digital camera Gimp assumes that they are 72 x 72 DPI. Is there a way to set this defasult to be 600 x 600 without manually adjusting it each time using "scale image"? I use Gimp to print the images. Gimp 2.6.11 on Salix Linux. -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Producing Gel text.
On Sunday, June 19, 2011 10:44:17 pm Michael J. Hammel wrote: > On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 09:30 +1000, Owen wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:36:34 -0400 > > > > John Culleton wrote: > > > The excellent book by Michael J Hammel "The Artist's Guide to Gimp > > > Effects" > > Thanks for the kudos. > > > > The bad news is his list has 37 steps. And his book was written in > > > the days of Gimp 2.2, looking forward to 2.4. > > The 2nd edition for 2.8 is expected to be out in early 2012. I'm trying > to coincide the update with the 2.8 release so the book is relevant. > I'm almost done with updating all the text, including quite few new > tutorials. I've been putting off making new screenshots to give the > developers as much time as possible for UI updates. But I'll be > starting in on those very soon. > > > Are you sure that File->Create->Logos->Chrome wont do what you are > > looking for? > > Kind of. But understanding how to do it manually allows you the > flexibility of making your own flavor of the effect. That's the purpose > of all the tutorials in the book - to teach technique without falling > back on too many pre-built effects. Well that was an authoritative set of responses! I will look forward to the new edition. In addition to being most informative it is a very handsome book. I write, publish, index and lay out books. Your book sets a very high standard and I salute your product. In the meantime I will look at Chrome more carefully. Sometimes I use the routines under logos and modify the results to suit my needs. For example I almost always eliminate the background layer. Chrome may or may not match up to the routine taken from "The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects" Stay tuned :<) -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Producing Gel text.
The excellent book by Michael J Hammel "The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects" describes in detail the creation of "gel" text for book covers, web pages etc. I developed my own summary checklist following the guidance in his book. And it works in production. The bad news is his list has 37 steps. And his book was written in the days of Gimp 2.2, looking forward to 2.4. Today 2.6.11 is the stable version and 2.7.x is in use by many. So I ask the group to look over the 37 steps listed below and evaluate whether there are better approaches available in e.g., 2.6.11 that can shorten the list a bit. -- 1. Create canvas 420x100 at 300 dpi. 2. Select Foregorund Color and set to 0/15/222 3. Select text tool. Choose serif font & set to e.g. 180 pixels. 4. Type text 5. Move text to center of canvas. 6. Choose Layer-> Layer to Image size. 7. Choose Layer-> Transparency -> Alpha to Selection. 8. Choose Select -> Shrink 2 pixels 9. Choose Select -> Feather 2 Pixels 10. Select Foreground Color and set to 31/82/255 11. Select Layer-> New layer. Name Bump Map. 12. Make Bump Map active layer. 13. Fill text with Foreground Layer color (drag & drop). 14. Select -> None. 15. Layer -> Duplicate. Name layer Blur. 16 Make Blur layer active layer. 17. Filters-> Blur->Gaussian Blur 10 Pixels. 18. Make Bump Layer active layer. 19. Filters -> Map -> Bump Map. Azimuth 105, Elevation 5.75, Depth 10, Map Type Linear, Compensate for Darkening. Apply. 20. Set Bump Map Layer mode to Addition. 21. Colors -> Curve 22. Set Blur Layer invisible. 23. Bump Map Layer: Filters -> Light and Dark -> Lighting Effect 24. Options tab: Move blue dot. 25. Light Tab: Directional, Intensity 1.45, OK 26. Layer -> Transform -> Offset -2 -2. 27. Filters -> Blur -> Gaussian Blur -> 5 28. Make Blur active & visible. 29. Layer-> Duplicate Layer. 30. Make Blur Duplicate Layer active. 31. Layer -> Transform ->Offset 2 2 32. Make Blur layer active 33. Layer -> Trensform -> Offset -2 -2 34. Set Blur layer mode to Addition 35. Set Blur copy layer mode to Screen 36. Make text layer active 37. Filter -> Shadows -> Drop Shadow Offset 2 pixels Blur 3 pixels. -- -- John Culleton "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] WaterMark on photos
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:01:00 -0700 (PDT) MM wrote: > I am not an expert, however I like to play with panoramas etcetera. > I use Gimp to retouch them once completed and I was looking for the > possibility of use a watermark copyright on those photos before publishing > them on photobucket. > > http://www.shutterfreaks.com/Actions/WatermarkSignatures/SampleDiagonal.jpg > > I am looking for something similar to the above sample, is there any one able > to help and let me know how I can make it with Gimp > > Thanks I attached a small script in Guile I made a long time ago. It isn't exactly what you want (doesn't rotate, for example), but that shouldn't be too hard to add. You can add labels, make them semi-transparent, etc. John labeler.scm Description: Binary data ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: scriipt-fu or python?
On Friday, May 13, 2011 05:13:47 pm Kevin Cozens wrote: > John Culleton wrote: > > 1. Do python scripts go into the same folder as .scm scripts? If not, > > where? I find the .scm scripts in > > Script-Fu scripts you want to add to your installation of GIMP should be > placed in ~/.gimp-2.6/scripts. For all other add-on plug-ins/scripts you > need to put them in ~/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins and they should be marked as > executable. Script-Fu scripts do not need to be marked as executable. > > NOTE: If you are using the development version of GIMP the directory is > ~/.gimp-2.7 > > > 2. I don't know either language but have programmed in COBOL and Tcl/Tk > > with side excursions into Perl, C and so on. Given this background > > which will the easiest to master for my first plug-in? > > > > The task I have in mind is "gel" text as described in "The Artist's Guide > > to Gimp Effects" on page 268ff. > > You can certainly use either language to save yourself a lot of manual > steps. If you want other people to use the script then Script-Fu will give > you the widest possible audience for it as Script-Fu scripts can be used > with every GIMP install. If you are creating a script for your own use, you > can use either language. > > If you are mainly used to writing programs in a procedural language you > might want to use Script-Fu/Scheme. GIMP also comes with about 100 > Script-Fu scripts that you can examine as you learn how to write your own > Script-Fu script(s). If you go the Script-Fu route, I would also suggest > you get a copy of the R5RS (or the two main parts of the R6RS) Scheme > standard documents and you format the Scheme code like you would other > programming languages. This means no putting all closing ) on one line. It > makes it easier to see the syntax and structure of Scheme while you are > learning. > > On the other hand, if you want to create a script to save you some work > with a language that would be more generally useful for other things > outside of GIMP, you would be better off with Python. It is mainly an > object oriented programming language but you can still use it for > procedural programming. Python scripts for GIMP may make some use of OOP > features and there may not be as many scripts with GIMP for you to look > at. > > You can always get help on the #gimp-user IRC channel or this mailing list > whichever choice you make. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user I have spent some hours analyzing the question further. We have plenty of examples of script-fu and plenty of tutorials for Python. We also have a whole fistful of plug-ins written in a compiler language. Is this C? In my case the program itself is purely linear, 37 steps taken in a certain order. To this we can add at the front end a step or steps of collecting information from the user, via a screen with labels and input fields. But the whole process is straight line with no conditionals or branches. In this situation object oriantation woud seem to be irrelevant. It is all a straight line of step one followed by step two. I have some early kindergarten level questions: 1. In the script-fu examples: functions or modules or whatever within Gimp itself are called by certain names and fed certain values. Do these identical names work in Python also? I see no centralized list of functions by name. 2. Does it really matter to Gimp in what language the script or plug-ins are written? For example could one write a plug-in using C or even Tcl-Tk so long as the right calls were made? Or must one use a special language- specific interface package? In short before I go further I need ot know more about the gimp--plugin or script interface. I get that the plug in muist be registered with gimp. But is that registration process also just another call to a module written in C? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Collage "scaling up"
On Sunday, May 15, 2011 03:56:15 am Greg Chapman wrote: > Hi Chris, > > On 15 May 11 01:01 Christoph Schwitter > > said: > > If there is a way to do this? Or another way to get the same result? > > Scaling down will always mean that, at some point, you will need to > up-scale it with the consequent loss of detail. > > Stitching several parts together will lead to a slow final process, > which may coke if you have insufficient RAM. > > Probably the only way to do it well is to ensure you have enough RAM > installed, and that will mean an nnnooormous amount. The image > size, that the GIMP works with is many times bigger than a JPEG file > that you load. Check the status line on the GIMP. A typical 2.2Mb file > from my 9Mpx camera expands to around 80Mb once uncompressed for > editing within the GIMP. > > Greg Chapman > If the OP is working in Linux then perhaps the swap space would take up the slack. Also, it may be possible to produce all the pieces of the collage in Gimp and then stitch them together in another program, such as Scribus or ImageMagick. ImageMagick has a Montage program that might be useful. Any program that lacks the memory overhead of Gimp could be used. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Death Wore Black" Police procedural by retired police chief Bill Redding ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Fwd: scriipt-fu or python?
Gimp 2.6.11 on Slackware Linux: 1. Do python scripts go into the same folder as .scm scripts? If not, where? I find the .scm scripts in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts 2. I don't know either language but have programmed in COBOL and Tcl/Tk with side excursions into Perl, C and so on. Given this background which will the easiest to master for my first plug-in? The task I have in mind is "gel" text as described in "The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects" on page 268ff. I did same for my current project but did not have much fun going through the 26 +/- steps over and over. -- John Culleton "Death Wore Black" Realistic police procedural by retired police chief Bill Redding ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changing a Text Layer
On Wednesday, May 11, 2011 02:18:25 pm Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Rhino wrote: > > What am I doing wrong? How do I access the layers that I created before > > the current layer? > > If you want to make changes to an existing text layer, in the layer > dialog, make the layer containing the text you want to change the active > layer, In the layer window when you click on a layer the whole layer bar gets a blue background and that is the active layer. To isolate that layer click the eye icon for each other layer. That makes the other layers invisible. If the eye icon is visible then that layer is visible and if it isn't then the layer is invisible. Just remember, the layer with the blue background is the active layer and the layer(s) with the eye icon are visible. That is obvious to experienced users but not necessarily obvious to those coming to Gimp from other software. -- John Culleton 2401 Haight Avenue Eldersburg MD 21784 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gel Text tutorial.
There are several of these on the net. Is there a favorite, one that works well on Gimp 2.6.11 with minimum fuss and feathers? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's
On Sunday, April 24, 2011 02:23:41 pm Carusoswi wrote: > >Mathias Lindner wrote: > >> The best format would be a vector graphic as suggested. But from my > >> experience it's hard to get a good one from pixel files. > > > >There are programs you can use that can convert (or try to convert) a > >bitmap image to a vector graphic one. One such option is Autotrace which > >you can get from SourceForge at http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/. > > Thanks for all the replies. It might make my situation clearer if I > explain that I do not need to maintain much quality when converting these > drawings, except that I need to preserve s certain level of detail so that > I can read them after I import them into the application for which I am > trying to downsize. > > Of course, the problem that I have run into this morning was that my > application was choking on the tiff files, and most of the solutions I > tried either did not result in smaller files, or the smaller result was so > fuzzy that I could not make out certain details I need in order to work > with the drawings. > > I did manage to crop away unnecessary areas of the original tiffs, so was > finally able to import them at their full resolution into my application > so that I could complete my project. > > Will try all the mentioned solutions to see which yields the optimum > results. I'm not certain my application can work with gif's, however. > > Thanks again. > > Caruso Gifs are only suitable for web pages. So that should not be an issue one would hope. With respect to your original tiff files, if you have a suitable viewer you can view them as is. On Slackware Linux I have several, including XV and Gwenview. Ubuntu typically doesn't come with a complete set of tools but you could try downloading either of the two I mention above. Then once set at a suitable enlargement you can use Ksnapshot to save the drawing as a png file at 72dpi. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's
On Saturday 23 April 2011 07:53:49 Carusoswi wrote: > So, I have used Gimp to downsize large architectural drawing images from > Tiff's to jpgs. Well, I always thought I was downsizing them. In the > past, the process always seemed to make the files more usable in the > application where I need to use the architectural drawings without a > significant loss in quality. > > This morning, I have had trouble following 'my process'. Typically, I will > open a tiff in Gimp, save as jpg, export if prompted, then select quality > of 40 or 50 percent, and the result is a usable file that is significantly > smaller than the source tiff file. > > Today, the source tiff which is 900 mb in size is being converted to jpg > which is 6 or 7 mb in size, totally unusable. > > Additionally, if I simply open the source in Gimp, save it to another > directory from Gimp without making any changes, the file also grows to 6 > or 7 mb. > > What am I doing wrong this morning that I have not been doing wrong for the > last 6 months? > > I am stumped (and frustrated because I have work to do). > > Using version 2.6.11 in Ubuntu 10.10 if that matters. > > I have a version of 2.7 on my Windows XP OS, and it will lock up trying to > open these drawings. > > It's curious, because, at 900 MB, I typically can use the drawings without > even altering or downsizing them. Today, it's a problem. > > What I really cannot understand is why Gimp is causing unaltered files to > grow in size when saving them. Is that normal? > > Advice will be most appreciated. > > Caruso Are the architectural drawings available in a vector format such as svg or pdf? These are normally much smaller for drawings etc. than their bitmapped equivalents. If not you might have better luck importing them as bitmaps into Inkscape and then converting them to svg or pdf using either trace mode or outline mode. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] panoramic photo
On Friday 22 April 2011 12:31:22 Francesco Scaglioni wrote: > Hugin > --- > (Apologies for brevity, top posting and poor citation - this email was sent > from a mobile device) --- > > -Original Message- > From: "will_annp...@tiscali.co.uk" > Sender: gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu > Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:26:08 > To: > Subject: [Gimp-user] panoramic photo > > I'm new to using Linux based software and do not know how to stitch > multi photos together to form a panoramic picture can you help? > > Yours Will Why would you address the bounces list? Gimp runs well on Linux but it also runs on Windows and OS X. Perhaps you meant "Open Source" software. The rather old book "Grokking the Gimp" has a two page dissertation on panoramas (256-257). My experience with TeX, Gimp, Scribus, Inkscape etc. is that, while the software and the support are free, successful use also requires a library of good books on the software. I also own (and use) "The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects." Amazon lists some other titles I haven't bought yet. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Problem with mailing list.
I am having troubles with my web host again so I need to post just to see if the message makes the round trip successfully. Please ignore. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] My annual inquiry.
Just isntalled 2.6.11. I note that some people have installed 2.7.2. Is there a summary somewhere of the new features available with 2.7.2? -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bold versions of some fonts fail
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:57:08 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > > Am I missing some important step? Not solved yet, but I detected that renaming the font, then running fc-cache, makes the font appear in Gimp! I first thought that changing .TTF to .ttf had done the trick, but just changing _anything_ in the font name works. Changing back to the original name, makes the font disappear again, as if there is a blacklist somewhere... Strange! John BTW, Gimp is 2.6.11, fontconfig 2.6.0 if that matters. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bold versions of some fonts fail
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:52:32 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > Am I missing some important step? Forgot to mention, 'FontMatrix' shows all the variants of the DejaVu font, including Bold, Condensed, Italic, etc. Only thing out of the 'ordinary' is that the regular font is called 'book', not 'regular', 'normal', 'roman', as most do. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Bold versions of some fonts fail
Hello people. At some point - I'm not clear when - something changed with my fonts (Linux - Slackware64 13.1). Now I cannot select, for example, the bold or italic version of DejaVu Sans. The appear as Regular. - I tried to install the newest package for the dejavu fonts, - ran mkfontscale - ran mkfontdir - Though probably unnecessary, ran fc-cache First tried to 'reload fonts' (button in fonts dialog) in Gimp, then tried to restart gimp entirely. (and from a terminal to check for any messages with --verbose). Am I missing some important step? John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem
On Thursday 14 October 2010 18:09:18 ChadBJX wrote: > >Chad, > > > >Can you print _anything_ from Gimp? > > > >If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory > > problem. > > > >Sorry, I can't help further. I don't have Vista and I am sitting > > here happily emailing from Ubuntu. ;-) > > > >I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be > > required to use), but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu > > (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, and RedHat Linux, and Unixware!). > > > >Jay > > Hi Jay, > Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic > file size. Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving > as a .jpg instead of Gimp's default format and see if that works > for me. I'll let you know but it may be a few days until I can get > back to the forum to let you know. Thanks again. > I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there. :) > Chad I don't try to use the print capabilities of Gimp, of Inkscape, of Krita, of Scribus or whatever. It is easier to save a file (PDF anyone?) and print that file out using e.g., Acrobat Reader. And now a question. Why are you "upgrading" to the effectively abandoned product Vista? Would not Windows 7 make more sense? -- John Culleton, Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" $5.95 at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html Free eps format barcode: http://www.tux.org/~milgram/bookland/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Script-fu script defaults
Hello people. A couple of years ago, I wrote a script to add titles to images. I offer the options of position, color and combination mode in the dialog. I use this script quite often. I never found if it is possible to assign default values to the variables, eg. set the color dialog by default to gray 25%, or set a dropdown selection to a particular value. (I know, in this case I could simply change the order of the items, but still...) If this is documented somewhere, I'd appreciate a pointer. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp.tutorials.net
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 23:54:45 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > When I ask "where exactly you clicked it" I really mean it. Please > tell us which page at gimp.org links to this page. The team cannot be > held responsible for content at tutorials.net. Hello Alexandre. I believe I can confirm that, on at least one instance, the link to to gimp-tutorials.net produced the page the OP described. I suspect this is when the host where that site is located, cannot find the correct domain (page?) and replaces it with another one with related content. Again - just a suspicion of mine - I guess this happens when gimp-tutorials.net temporarily (maintenance?) disappears. This policy seems to be popular with hosts who want to make the most of badly typed URLs and site outages. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] fuzzy around text
Finally - one I may be able to answer .. Try scaling the image close to the size and resolution you expect to print _before_ you add the text. I believe the text is essentially bitmapped onto your image when you add it. If your printing implies a substantial enlargement you may be looking at the edges of the text as it was rendered. Just a guess, but I had a similar problem when I started out and that was the reason for ragged edges and fuzzy characters on my text. You may even want to create your image at higher resolution than you will print it -- at least once or twice as experiments. HTH. - Mills On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, for...@gimpusers.com wrote: >> I'm new to Gimp and graphic design. I was able to create a logo with a >> transparent background. However, when I convert to jpg gif or png and then >> upload to my server (or insert into Word or PDF) it's fuzzy around the >> letters. >> Any idea what to do to keep it looking sharp and get rid of the fuzziness? >> Thanks, > dev19 (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Want to lose scanner
GIMPers - I tried adding a scanner for GIMP use on a linux system, but the sensor was not useful to me. Now I get a warning the sensor isn't available each time I start the GIMP. How can I suppress the warning or remove the test for that scanner? Thanks. - John Mills ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Scanner source
>Have you got a symlink to the xsane binary in your gimp plug-in folder? > >Andrew Sorry Andrew, I can't answer your question because I haven't a clue what a "symlink" is or an"xsane binary". I went to the plug-in browser and found the Camera plugin but the information in the right hand side is beyond my limited knowledge. John Smith -- John S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Scanner source
>John S. gimpusers.com> writes: > >> >> I am using GIMP 2.6.10 on an iMac, Snow Leopard. I attempted to import an >> image from my scanner (Brother DCP-130C) by selecting File > Create > >> Scanner/camera > Select Source. The Select Source dialogue box is blank. How >> do I get GIMP to recognise the sanner? >> Thanks in anticipation. >> > > >I won't be much help...but, does your computer recognize the scanner in other >applications? I had a similar problem, recently, with a Brother DCP-110c and I >had to install different drivers which I found on the Brother site...somewhere. > >Sorry to provide no answer for you. -- John S. (via www.gimpusers.com) Thank you for your reply, Alek S. The scanner works fine with all other applications. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Scanner source
I am using GIMP 2.6.10 on an iMac, Snow Leopard. I attempted to import an image from my scanner (Brother DCP-130C) by selecting File > Create > Scanner/camera > Select Source. The Select Source dialogue box is blank. How do I get GIMP to recognise the sanner? Thanks in anticipation. -- John S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
On Sunday 08 August 2010 18:53:22 Owen wrote: > On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:13:57 -0400 > > John Culleton wrote: > > As an occasional user of Gimp I don't have all the arcana of > > installation memorized. Where can I find gimp-help and where should I > > install it? > > > > Salackware Linux 13.0, Gimp 2.6.6. > > Hi John, > > Have a look at http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ and see if that helps > > Look for the bit that says GIMP help files are available at > ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/ > > > > > Owen > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It appears that the English version of the help file is corrupted. First I get ftp download errors (binary download) for lines that consist only of a carriage return. I did it twice and got the same message. Next when I try to bunzip2 the file I get bunzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. Input file = gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2, output file = gimp- help-2.6.0-html-en.tar I can keep trying, but is this a known defect? -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
As an occasional user of Gimp I don't have all the arcana of installation memorized. Where can I find gimp-help and where should I install it? Salackware Linux 13.0, Gimp 2.6.6. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [SPAM] - Re: Square selection fill round ????? - Email found in subject
Hi Everybody, Can anybody tell me how to unsubscribe from this list? Thanks, -Original Message- From: gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu [mailto:gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: August 03, 2010 8:40 AM To: Harry Strunc; gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [Gimp-user] Square selection fill round ? - Email found in subject On 02/08/10 22:24, Harry Strunc wrote: > Hi, thanks for the replies! > > I will explain better: > > Picture 1 is a bride standing in front of a grey wall. > But a guest is standing in the very right side of the picture...eating. > > I want to grab a pattern of that wall and paste it in ...covering the guest > > I dont want to crop the picture. I can do that. > I dont want to clone. I can do that. > > I want to copy a little piece of that wall pattern and make it fill up the > selection I make and get rid of the guest. > > Lee know, > Harry > . Maybe try this: Use the Path tool to mark out a suitable bit of wall elsewhere in the picture Path to Selection Click on the selected area, Edit=>Copy Then Edit =>Paste Go to Layers. Make the Floating Selection into a New Layer. Go to Move tool. Move the Pasted area (the wall) where you want it to cover up the guest. Then Anchor it, Merge Visible Layers or Flatten Image to fix it in place. You'll probably need to fiddle a bit to get a patch of wall that matches its surroundings properly. If you can't get a perfect match straight away you can usually finish off the edges with the clone tool. HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Removing white border.
This problem involves an illo to be used on a book cover in Scribus. Some time back I took a photo of a church with a white sky background (OK very light gray). I was able to select and delete the background so now I have the church plus a transparent background. I saved it as png. When i used it there was a very thin border of white pixels around the outline of the church and its steeples etc. A Photoshop guy said I could select the church, invert so that the background was selected, enlarge the background by a few pixels and delete it again to get rid of the white line. But right now the background is just a transparency. Currently the illo is in png form, though of course I can go back to the original jpg from the scanner. Using either product, the png or the original jpg, how do I eliminate both the sky and the white line? I want the background to be totally transparent. I have Gimp 2.6.6 on Slackware 13.0 Linux. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Monday 21 June 2010 14:11:58 Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 06/21/2010 08:00 PM, John Culleton wrote: > > And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? > > We know we need CMYK sooner or later, but higher bit depths and > non-destructiveness is much more important. So first good support for > the latter, then we can begin looking into proper support for the former > IMO. Maybe in a stable version 6-8 years from now with the current pace > of development. > > / Martin Hey, I may not live that long :<). Krita has had CMYK for years. But of course Krita lacks the full feature set of Gimp. Maybe some of that Krita code could be lifted for Gimp, just as InDesign lifted important features from TeX. -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On Monday 21 June 2010 13:12:19 Branko Vukelic wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM, John Culleton > wrote: > > I've cut your message since it's been said over and over (and over) > again. Lots of people complaining. I've just two things to say to all > of you who do: > > 1. Get real. > 2. DTP with open-source software: It's been done. Successfully. > Repeatedly. Period. > > Good luck. Yes I do DTP with TeX and Scribus. But my question is about CMYK on Gimp. When? -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Monday 21 June 2010 12:49:00 Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 06/21/2010 05:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ken Warner wrote: > >> Is it still being worked on? If so, is there any word > >> on availability? > > > > "When it's ready" is the best you can get :) > > There is more to say. > > Right now the top priority is to get GIMP 2.8 released. The current goal > is late 2010. GIMP 2.8 does not have support for high bit depths. > > Once GIMP 2.8 is out, we will start phasing out the legacy > 8-bit-per-channel code and replace it with GEGL. In other words, we will > start for real to introduce support for high bit depths in GIMP. There > is no schedule of this work, so a date cannot be given. It is reasonable > though to expect this work to go on for say 2-4 years. > > Regards, > Martin And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On Sunday 17 January 2010 15:54:20 Robert L Cochran wrote: > My suggestion is to use Gimp for what you need, and work with a higher > end camera that produces raw format images. Get Akkana Peck's book and > start with that. Post emails to this list when you need some help. It > also doesn't hurt to have a website where you can post your photos to. > > I take technical photos (as a not very good amateur!) and edit them in > the Gimp. I feel no need for Photoshop. The choice of either software > title is really a personal preference. > > I myself have not seen a photographer using film in quite some time. > They all seem to be digital now. For example, the photographer for my > daughter's wedding is a professional and he used a Nikon digital. > > > * GIMP: May be used for 'serious' work if that means showing a photo > > on a web page. Otherwise forget it because: > > > >** Is has no color management (I don't know what this is); > >** Just 8 bit/channel; > >** No CMYK. > > > > Even though answers on this list may be biased, I have to ear them. > > So, are this statements true? > > > > TIA! > > Can't let this one go by. Those of us who work with print books have been asking for CMYK output from Gimp for many years. Scribus, a much newer product, already has it, along with ICC profiles and pdf x/1-a output and so on. Krita, a not very well- known drawing program that is part of KDE, has had CMYK color model for years. The developers of Gimp have never given the needs of print media a high priority. As a result most people in the world of print media don't use Gimp. The usual response from the developers of Gimp is that there is little demand for CMYK. But the facts are that those of us who work in print media don't use Gimp very much precisely because it won't deal in CMYK. So it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. When Gimp is used on images intended for print then another program such as Scribus or ImageMagick is used after the Gimp work is complete to do the conversion. Inkscape, an Illustrator-like product also lacks the internal CMYK model. Its base output is svg, which is inherently RGB. But it is making moves toward CMYK output. Colors can be defined in (limited) CMYK terms. The problem with RGB to CMYK output is the difference between the gamuts of the two models. So it is possible in Inkscape to define a color that falls in the CMYK gamut. Bitmap images such as photos are a different matter. Krita will use the CMYK model and also import specific "raw" formats for various cameras. So it has potential for being both a frontend and/or a backend to Gimp in a workflow without resorting to plugins etc. The feature set of Krita is nowhere near as complete as that of Gimp, so it is not a full replacement. And it is limited to machines that have the KDE software available. I use it on my Slackware 13.0 Linux box even though I use XFCE instead of KDE 4 for my user interface. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] RAW film formats.
You'll have to check for yourself. I use it with Pentax DSLR raw and I recall it accepts others but I only looked as far as the camera I have. - Mills On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, John Culleton wrote: > On Friday 18 June 2010 13:32:34 John Mills wrote: >> Try the 'ufraw' plugin. See: >> [http://ufraw.sourceforge.net] >> Works here. >> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, John Culleton wrote: >>> While cruising through Krita I note that it will import several > raw >>> digital formats from several camera manufacturers. Will this > be a >>> Gimp feature in the future? > Very good. The specific Krita filter that caught my eye was for "Fuji > RAF raw image." There were about a dozen others for various > makes of cameras. Does the existing Gimp filter cover all these > variants? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:10:00 +0200 (CEST) "Jade" wrote: > I read on several googled pages that it's possible to recover layers > from EXIF data, etc, and it would help me out a lot to recover even the > line art. EXIF data in 'Extra' information, generally things such as dates, exposure time, if the flash was activated or not, etc. The EXIF data does not contain any graphical info at all, so it won't be of any help for recovering the image. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] RAW film formats.
On Friday 18 June 2010 13:32:34 John Mills wrote: > Try the 'ufraw' plugin. See: > [http://ufraw.sourceforge.net] > > Works here. > > - Mills > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, John Culleton wrote: > > While cruising through Krita I note that it will import several raw > > digital formats from several camera manufacturers. Will this be a > > Gimp feature in the future? Very good. The specific Krita filter that caught my eye was for "Fuji RAF raw image." There were about a dozen others for various makes of cameras. Does the existing Gimp filter cover all these variants? -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] RAW film formats.
Try the 'ufraw' plugin. See: [http://ufraw.sourceforge.net] Works here. - Mills On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, John Culleton wrote: > While cruising through Krita I note that it will import several raw > digital formats from several camera manufacturers. Will this be a > Gimp feature in the future? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] RAW film formats.
While cruising through Krita I note that it will import several raw digital formats from several camera manufacturers. Will this be a Gimp feature in the future? -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] script-fu-round-corners
Hi List, I thought I might tie off this thread by indicating that I now have a working script. It appears the definition for "script-fu-round-corners" in script-fu console is in error in that the "run-mode" variable indicated is not reflected in the definition of the script. I removed the RUN-NONINTERACTIVE from my script and I was off and running. Here is the final script: (define (round-corners filein fileout) (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE filein filein))) (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image (set! drawable (car (gimp-image-flatten image))) (script-fu-round-corners image drawable 15.0 TRUE 8.0 8.0 15.0 TRUE FALSE) (set! drawable (car (gimp-image-flatten image))) (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable fileout fileout) (gimp-image-delete image))) Thanks for your help. John On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:00 AM, John Dey wrote: > Hi List, > > I circulated a script yesterday for rounding corners using the above listed > script. I got two suggestions for changes but neither resulting in a working > script. Is there a list member that would be willing to send me a small > working script using "script-fu-round-corners" so I can learn how to use it. > Thank you very much. > > John > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] script-fu-round-corners
Hi List, I circulated a script yesterday for rounding corners using the above listed script. I got two suggestions for changes but neither resulting in a working script. Is there a list member that would be willing to send me a small working script using "script-fu-round-corners" so I can learn how to use it. Thank you very much. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] script: round-corners
On Jun 14, 2010, at 8:16 PM, saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com wrote: > Quoting John Dey : > >> Sven, >> >> Thanks for the response. I had added the flatten command today but >> the script still has an execution error. Here is what I have tried: >> : >> : >> (set! drawable (gimp-image-flatten image)) >> (script-fu-round-corners RUN-NONINTERACTIVE >> image drawable 15 TRUE 8 8 15 TRUE FALSE) >> (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable fileout fileout) > > You need to flatten your image AFTER running round-corners. Saul, Thanks for your suggestion. I moved the flatten command but the script still doesn't execute. Here I am now: (define (round-corners filein fileout) (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE filein filein))) (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image (script-fu-round-corners RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable 15.0 TRUE 8.0 8.0 15.0 TRUE FALSE) (set! drawable (car (gimp-image-flatten image))) (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable fileout fileout) (gimp-image-delete image))) John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] script: round-corners
On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:57 -0400, John Dey wrote: > >> ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ gimp -i -b '(round-corners "test.JPG" "test2.JPG")' >> -b '(gimp-quit 0)' >> batch command executed successfully >> >> Comment: >> >> test2.JPG is created but the corners are not rounded and there is no drop >> shadow! >> >> (define (round-corners in-filename out-filename) >>(let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE in-filename >> in-filename))) >> (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image >> (script-fu-round-corners image drawable 15 TRUE 8 8 15 TRUE FALSE) >> (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable out-filename >>out-filename) >> (gimp-image-delete image))) > > You need to add a call to gimp-image-flatten to your script and make > sure that you save the drawable that is created by this call. > > > Sven > > Sven, I just looked at the flatten command that was added and think I had detected an error. I tried: (set! drawable (car (gimp-image-flatten image))) Unfortunately, the script still will not execute without an error. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] script: round-corners
On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:57 -0400, John Dey wrote: > >> ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ gimp -i -b '(round-corners "test.JPG" "test2.JPG")' >> -b '(gimp-quit 0)' >> batch command executed successfully >> >> Comment: >> >> test2.JPG is created but the corners are not rounded and there is no drop >> shadow! >> >> (define (round-corners in-filename out-filename) >>(let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE in-filename >> in-filename))) >> (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image >> (script-fu-round-corners image drawable 15 TRUE 8 8 15 TRUE FALSE) >> (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable out-filename >>out-filename) >> (gimp-image-delete image))) > > You need to add a call to gimp-image-flatten to your script and make > sure that you save the drawable that is created by this call. > > > Sven > > Sven, Thanks for the response. I had added the flatten command today but the script still has an execution error. Here is what I have tried: (define (round-corners filein fileout) (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE filein filein))) (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image (set! drawable (gimp-image-flatten image)) (script-fu-round-corners RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable 15 TRUE 8 8 15 TRUE FALSE) (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable fileout fileout) (gimp-image-delete image))) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] script: round-corners
Hi, I noticed that I had left out the RUN-NONINTERACTIVE in the script-fu-round-corners command. When I added and reran I get the message "batch command experienced an execution error". John On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:57 AM, John Dey wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I have a slew of jpg pictures that I would like to round corners and place a > drop shadow on. I google'ed and am at an impasse. I need help. I have > provided some of the details below. Thanks in advance for you assistance. > > Details: > > ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ uname -a > Linux robo4 2.6.31-21-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 24 07:28:27 UTC 2010 > x86_64 GNU/Linux > > ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ gimp -v > GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.6.7 > > using GEGL version 0.0.22 (compiled against version 0.0.22) > using GLib version 2.22.3 (compiled against version 2.22.2) > using GTK+ version 2.18.3 (compiled against version 2.18.3) > using Pango version 1.26.0 (compiled against version 1.26.0) > using Fontconfig version 2.6.0 (compiled against version 2.6.0) > > ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ gimp -i -b '(round-corners "test.JPG" "test2.JPG")' -b > '(gimp-quit 0)' > batch command executed successfully > > Comment: > > test2.JPG is created but the corners are not rounded and there is no drop > shadow! > > (define (round-corners in-filename out-filename) >(let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE in-filename > in-filename))) > (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image > (script-fu-round-corners image drawable 15 TRUE 8 8 15 TRUE FALSE) > (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable out-filename > out-filename) > (gimp-image-delete image))) > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] script: round-corners
Hi everybody, I have a slew of jpg pictures that I would like to round corners and place a drop shadow on. I google'ed and am at an impasse. I need help. I have provided some of the details below. Thanks in advance for you assistance. Details: ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ uname -a Linux robo4 2.6.31-21-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 24 07:28:27 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ gimp -v GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.6.7 using GEGL version 0.0.22 (compiled against version 0.0.22) using GLib version 2.22.3 (compiled against version 2.22.2) using GTK+ version 2.18.3 (compiled against version 2.18.3) using Pango version 1.26.0 (compiled against version 1.26.0) using Fontconfig version 2.6.0 (compiled against version 2.6.0) ro...@robo4:~/Desktop$ gimp -i -b '(round-corners "test.JPG" "test2.JPG")' -b '(gimp-quit 0)' batch command executed successfully Comment: test2.JPG is created but the corners are not rounded and there is no drop shadow! (define (round-corners in-filename out-filename) (let* ((image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE in-filename in-filename))) (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image (script-fu-round-corners image drawable 15 TRUE 8 8 15 TRUE FALSE) (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable out-filename out-filename) (gimp-image-delete image))) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: looking forbinary softwareto install - Email found in subject - Emailfound in subject - Email found in subject - Email found in subject
Thanks Xiella. Yes, I got it. I get used to the terms from Microsoft, where we call any items as an object, well object oriented :) From: gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu [mailto:gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Xiella Harksell Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:15 PM To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [Gimp-user] [SPAM] - [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: looking forbinary softwareto install - Email found in subject - Emailfound in subject - Email found in subject - Email found in subject > >>>>John Ma wrote: > >>>>>By looking at your documentation, I found how to resize an image as > >>>>>below, but still looking for the feature hot to resize the >background > >>>>>(the underneath layer). > > >>>Chris Mohler wrote: > >>>> Have you tried Image->Canvas Size? > > >>Branko Vukelic wrote: > >>>If you want to resize the background layer without affecting other > >>>layers, I think you won't find a software package that does that. To > >>>resize all layers, though: > >>> > >>>Image -> Scale image > > >John Ma wrote: > >>Thanks for the reminder, Branko. I guess I kind of figured it out now. > >>Have a nice evening ! > >>John > > Xiella Harksell wrote: > >It's probably late in the piece, but I just thought I'd add that you actually > >can resize just a layer, both with and without scaling (just as for > >images). Just do one of the following while the background layer is > >selected (or whichever layer you wished): > >- Layer -> Layer Boundary Size (Crops layer) > >- Layer -> Scale layer (Resizes layer to scale) > > John Ma wrote: > It's never too late to get some hits or tips to me, Xiella, it's really a > good reminder. By the way, how can I select the background layer? By > default, it always selects the image object Hi John, I've replied this email on the list, rather than to you personally, so that others can help/be helped. I'm not quite sure what you mean by an image object - GIMP is, in general, a raster editor so we don't really use objects. You can access the layers dialog by Windows -> Dockable Dialogs -> Layers (should be in the second section). That shows a preview list of the layers you have on your image and you can select the specific layer from there. You might wish to read http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-image-combining.html#gimp-concepts-layers for more information about layers. Kind regards Xiella ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: looking for binary software to install - Email found in subject - Email found in subject
Thanks for the reminder, Branko. I guess I kind of figured it out now. Have a nice evening ! John -Original Message- From: Branko Vukelic [mailto:bg.bra...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:37 PM To: Ma, John (CS - CIS) Cc: Chris Mohler; GIMP, General Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [Gimp-user] [SPAM] - Re: looking for binary software to install - Email found in subject - Email found in subject John, If you want to resize the background layer without affecting other layers, I think you won't find a software package that does that. To resize all layers, though: Image -> Scale image To resize only the background, the best you can do, I think is to paste background layer in another image, and use the option above to scale that. Then paste it back into the original image, and remove the original background layer (if you don't need it anymore). On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Mohler wrote: >>On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Ma, John (CS - CIS) >>wrote: >>Hi Chris, > >>By looking at your documentation, I found how to resize an image as below, >>but still looking for the feature hot to resize the >background (the >>underneath layer). If you know how, please let me know. > > Have you tried Image->Canvas Size? > > If you're new to image editing, you should probably search around for > GIMP tutorials. The manual is a must-read as well. > > Chris > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > -- Branko Vukelić Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] looking for binary software to install
Hi, I am just looking for your binary software to download so that I can install it to my computer with the OS Windows XP (even old version is fine to me). Viewed your web site, but it's hard to find any binary software there. I am not interested in the source code. I am a web developer using the MS ASP.Net and I would like to use your software to design some images for our corporation. Thanks, John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] font location.
I wanted to use the free Pricedown font in a Gimp process. First I put it in my home directory: /home/safe/.gimp-2.6/fonts/pricedow.ttf Gimp didn't find it. Then I put it in /usr/share/fonts/TTF/pricedow.ttf Gimp didn't find it. Then I put it in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/fonts/pricedow.ttf Gimp found it. Now we are a long way from 2.0. Why do I have to put a font in there to be found? And why doesn't the online Gimp manual say anything about font installation? Slackware 13 Linux, Gimp 2.6.6 -- John Culleton "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] draw circle object
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:41:43 -0400 James Lockie wrote: > I know I can apply a stroke to the selection but I want a circle I can > change the size of. This is typically a request for a vector drawing program (such as Inkscape), and not a paint program (such as the GIMP). That said, probably the nearest you can get (with GIMP) is using Filters -> Render -> Gfig John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Install Trouble
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:29:14 +0200 (CEST) "Bill T." wrote: > When I searched synaptic I found libgegl-0.0-0 but not the one in the > error message. I don't know Synaptic, but I'm guessing the libgegl-0.0-0 package will install as the correct .so.0 library. Package names usually don't include 'so', as the installation will frequently include other files too. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] newbie question!!!
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:13:30 -0400 "Brad Pears" wrote: > Can someone point me to or send me "detailed" instructions on how I > would open up two (or more) different images and then join them together > - change the background colours (if need be), add some text to the new > image - either beside or on top of the images, and then save it as a new > image??? Surprise... First line of googling 'gimp tutorial': http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can I Subtract a color overall?
Thanks to Stefan, Dan, and David for your replies. I'll look into all three approaches, but this looks most directly like what I had in mind. My limited intuition seemed to suggest that since RGB is an additive color space, there might be a direct way to subtract a cast out of it. Regards. - John Mills On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, David Gowers wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, John Mills wrote: ... >> I am printing a scanned image onto a slightly toned surface (heavy >> watercolor paper), and I would like to precompensate somewhat for the >> effect of printing onto this warm toned medium. How can I correct the >> image before printing to approach the same colors as a print on white >> paper, at least in the darker areas? ... > I suggest trying this: > 1. Create an image full of the color of the paper. > 2. Look at the RGB values of the color you chose (my test color was > 244, 242, 219) > 3. Open up the 'Levels' tool. select Red channel, type the appropriate > value (eg 244) in the rightmost field under the 'input levels' > histogram+gradient. select green, type appropriate value (eg 242), > select blue, type appropriate value (219), OK. > 4. The canvas should now be completely white #FF / 255, 255, 255, > and you should have an appropriate Levels preset stored to apply to > your pictures; you may want to save the preset permanently with the > '+' button next to the preset selector (after first selecting it) > Note: > This method will clip out detail of colors that are as bright or > brighter than the real paper color. This is basically unavoidable > according to your description of the problem. > HTH, > David > ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Can I Subtract a color overall?
All - I don't know if this makes conceptual sense, but ... I am printing a scanned image onto a slightly toned surface (heavy watercolor paper), and I would like to precompensate somewhat for the effect of printing onto this warm toned medium. How can I correct the image before printing to approach the same colors as a print on white paper, at least in the darker areas? Thanks for any comments. - John Mills ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Text looks rough
RSA - On esuggestion: Be sure you create the banner and its text at a high enough image resolution. It may be rendered as fuzzy or jagged if the text's bit-image is enlarged substantially for printing or viewing (in contrast to vector-based graphics). I had this problem when I started out. - John Mills On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, RSA wrote: > When I make a web banner that is only text it looks great in GIMP and in > my web page maker. > When I put it up on the web the text looks "rough" like someone cut it > out with a jig saw. > I use the banner in JPG format or GIF format and the results are the same. > Any ideas how to fix it? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP's gradients are not smooth?
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:05:29 -0500 Anthony DiSante wrote: > As you can see, there are obvious striations there, rather than a > smooth gradient. Hi, Anthony. I believe the problem is that you are making a gray gradient (which means that all three colors are changing equally). This means that you have only 256 levels available to render the gradient. Then you are trying to produce a gradient from value 84 to 129, which are only 55 steps, over a distance of couple of 100 pixels - this causes the banding. I may be wrong here - I haven't used it yet - but I believe GEGL provides you with a lot more precision in the colors. You may not be able to see it on the screen, as your monitor probably has the same 256 level limit, and you'll have to use a special output format for the same reason (eg. 16 bit PNG). This kind of problem frequently appears in the sky part of images, the the blue gradient can present a real challenge. John ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Urgently need to adjust photograph size
Then you're probably going to want to crop out a square part of the picture and adjust that. -Original Message- From: gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu [mailto:gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Ruthy Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:58 AM To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [Gimp-user] Urgently need to adjust photograph size > >> Hello >> >> I really need to adjust a photograph. It needs to be 600 by 600 pixels. >> When I change one value it seems to automatically adjust itself. >> I really need to get this done ASAP, so if you can help it would be graitely >> appreciated. >> >I presume that you are using Scale Image. At the right hand side of the >boxes where you enter the dimensions there are 2 chain links which are >joined together, click on these and they will separate. Now you can >enter your dimensions with out any problem. > >Norman > > Its a passport photograph, so doing the little chain things doesn't really work, as it becomes distorted. Thats why I was trying to do what the previous poster suggested -- Ruthy (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.68/2507 - Release Date: 11/17/09 07:40:00 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic
Ilya - Thanks for your earlier note -- I am quite happy to stand corrected and your post suggests a basic experiment I can easily do: compare in-camera processed and post-processed RAW images for the same scene and settings. I'll have a limited sample to work with: my only camera delivering RAW images is a Pentax K100D, quite dated now by newer technology. On the other hand, I can compare UFRaw into GIMP and Photoshop Elements with the Pentax plug-in into PSE and (if I have a suitable intermediate format) into GIMP. At the very least I'll learn something. If I see anything surprising or interesting I may share it and hopefully get useful feedback. Anyway, there's no substitute for knowing what one's own equipment does. On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: > On 2009-09-30, Carusoswi wrote: >> In the spirit of the OP's question, if you make no adjustments in >> UFRAW, is there any more latitude for adjustment in the resultant JPG >> file (in Gimp or other editing application) than what you might get >> straight from the camera? > This is not a very have-a-clear-answer topic. > I would guess that with Canon, the answer is straightforward: the > RAW-converted output would be SIGNIFICANTLY better than in-camera one > in ALL respects. Dynamic range, handling of clipping, handling of > noise, sharpness, etc. > With cameras which use more advanced versions of the Apical Iridex > hardware or firmware (starting with Sony, but Nikon is reported to be > in process of catching up), the situation is not as clear. I did not > see any report of RAW processor which can match Apical-style "Dynamic > Range Optimizations". > So: there might be one respect (tonal mapping, sometimes called > "dynamic range") in which RAW-processed-JPEG might be not as good as > in-camera one... I'm not sure I follow that, unless the sensor's bit-depth and that of the camera's RAW format are different. I'm not at the stage of getting full scale from my images: still working for consistent, decent quality prints from straight-forward subjects. - Mills ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic
Bryan - Wiser heads will probably correct or refine this, but ... The 'raw' file is supposed to represent data very close to what is provided by the camera's sensor array. Before saving images in non-raw formats (JPEG, etc.) the camera performs some conversions of the image field as well as - usually - applying some compression. These conversions are irreversible and represent a compromise intended to give pleasing images of common subjects. This is crudely analogous to the processing applied to color negatives by most photo processors as they are printed - you have probably seen the quite surprising results this sometimes gives: colors gone crazy! UFRaw gives you the chance to make different assumptions and adjustments, and keeps the original image file untouched in case you want another chance. It also provides as default a compensation similar to what the camera would have done if left to its own algorithms. That's what you get if you don't intervene. If you aren't making any adjustments in UFRaw you may be just as well-off to work with [say] JPEG images out of your camera. The intermediate stage of adjusting your image in UFRaw is one of the main reasons for using RAW format in the first place. At least that's my [mis?]understanding. - Mills On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Bryan wrote: > For starters, is there any good reason why UFRaw should be used for > anything other than opening a RAW file before transporting it to Gimp? > What I really wanted to ask was, Why, when open up an image in UFRaw and > it looks great, even when zoomed in as much as allowed. However, when > you sent it to Gimp via UFRaw, when you zoom into even a small amount > the image is very pixelated. When or how did it become downsized or some > sort of processing that might cause this to happen? Is it possible to > bring in a RAW file and retain it's sharpness? > Thanks for anyone's help in regards to this. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP (solved!)
>Using Gimp 2.6.6 on XP SP3 and all current updates. >When attempting at open the GEGL dialog, Gimp crashes. >Anything else that I try works just fine (so far). >Is this known? Is there a work around? >Gimp 2.6.4 did not crash. > > Downloaded and installed Gimp 2.6.7 and it appears the the GEGL issue has been resolved. It works, I'm happy and MANY thanks to the developers for providing this application. Regards, John -- John (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Multi-page TIFF
On Friday 21 August 2009 22:52:36 M. Bashir Al-Noimi wrote: > Hi All, > > I want to know, How I can create multi-page TIFF file. > > P.S. > I could open/modify multi-page TIFF file successfully. > > - > Best Regards > Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi > My Blog: http://mbnoimi.net/ You might be able to create a multipage document using Scribus, then export it as tiff. But the purpose of such an exercise escapes me. Why not deal with pdf instead? That is more suited for printing. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2.17 Crash During File/Open.
On Monday 03 August 2009 09:32:21 am Steven M. Dodier wrote: > Hello, > > Hoping someone can help resolve this problem. I have done > searches of archives and web sites without much luck. I know > this version is a little old, but I don't have any control over > updating the installation. My problem is related to gimp > (2.2.17). I can start gimp from an nfs export with no problems. > I get the GUI, but when I select file/open, the application > crashes with the following error: > > > //gimp > > process 8788: D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; > failed to read machine uuid: Failed to open > "/packages/dbus10/var/lib/machine-id": No such file or > directory See the manual page for dbus-uuidgen to correct this > issue. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a > backtrace //bin/gimp: terminated: Aborted > > (script-fu:8966): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: wire_read(): > error +++ > > I can use the same nfs export from a different system and use > gimp just fine without any errors or crashing. This is the same > OS, same export, same user account. The conf files in > /etc/dbus-1/ appear to be identical between these two systems. > The only differences that I can find between the system gimp > works on and the system gimp does not work on are the patch > levels. They are both RHEL 4 EL x86_64 servers. The one that > works is at 2.6.9-67.ELsmp, the one that fails is at > 2.6.9-34.ELsmp. Due to software support issues, I cannot simply > update the system that is not working. I did update the dbus rpm > and rebooted, so that it matched the good system, but that did > not fix the problem. Another strange clue is that I can start the > application when appending the data file, get directly to the > data file without crashing gimp. For instance, I can run > "//gimp file1.tif", without any errors. As soon as I need > to do a file/open, the application and data file close. I am > using the "//gimp file1.tif" for a work-around at the > moment. Could anyone help shed some light on this issue of why > Gimp crashes as soon as I select file/open? What is it that gimp > needs that is causing the crash? > > Thanks in advance, > Steve D. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Since you do not have control over your networked copy of Gimp I suggest another route. As I recall the self loading Debian system called Knoppix contains a fairly recent copy of Gimp. You download the cdr image, burn it on a disk and then whenever you need to use Gimp just pop in the disk and wait for it to load. You can still access and save files on your hard disk. This bypasses the NFS facility entirely and gives you a more up to date copy of Gimp. If you can't burn an iso image on your system then you can buy a Knoppix disk mail order for about $10. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] freefonts & sharefonts on MSWin
A bit of background: the last version of MSWin I used regularly was 3.1. I have only used Gimp under Linux. For the Linux user the incorporation of all the fonts contained in the freefonts and sharefonts packages are pretty well defined. Installation of a single font under MSWin is also well defined. But how does one install an entire collection like the two mentioned? I have WinXP on a spare partition to experiment with. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Chalk Logo doesn't work.
I am making a chart of all the different logos under the File>Create>Logos submenu. The Chalk Logo doesn't seem to work. First it calls for Cooper which is not on my system. Second, even when I substitute an available font (e.g., Cooper Heavy) all I get is a black image. The layers dialog just shows a background layer and a completely empty text layer. Should I just give up on Chalk? I have Gimp 2.6.6 on Slackware 12.2. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP
Martin, I have tried this work around and the results are the same. The crash still occurs. System is a P4 2GB XP home SP3 with all current updates applied. Looking forward to the next release. John >With some help from Jernej I have now been able too look into this >problem. It would be of great help if people with crashes when doing: > > 1. Start GIMP > 2. Create new default image > 3. Tools -> GEGL Operation... > >could try to move > > C:\Program Files (x86)\GIMP-2.0\lib\gegl-0.0\load-buffer.dll > >into a temporary dir, just so that GEGL does not pick up load-buffer.dll >when starting. > >On my tests on Vista SP2, removing this GEGL operation from the >operations GEGL loads gets rid of this particular crash, and I suspect >this will get rid of this particular crash on XP systems as well. > >If anyone is able to confirm that removing/moving load-buffer.dll fixes >the above crash, please let me know and report what version of Windows >you are using. > > Thanks, > Martin > > -- John (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue
On Friday 24 July 2009 12:40:42 am Erik Lotspeich wrote: > Hi, > > I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2. I am having a serious > problem with printing that I cannot figure out. > > For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to > Gimp, Linux, or Unix. > > That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near > perfect. It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the > image to the correct paper size. Image rotation > (landscape/portrait) was never an issue. > > I find the printing interface in Gimp 2.6.2 to be a complete > failure in terms of both interface and functionality. Here are > links to some screenshots: > > https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-print-fail.png > https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-image-properties.png > > I would like to know why the width and height do not correspond > to any reasonable value. I set my paper size to 4x6 borderless > on an HP OfficeJet 6110. Printing on this printer works > perfectly in other programs; I'm using hplip and CUPS. > > Why is there no auto-resize like there is in Gimp 2.2? > > Why is the X and Y resolution pegged to 1133.948? Why won't it > let me set this value? > > The preview does not correspond in any way to my paper size (see > the huge border on the bottom!). > > I'm sorry to sound upset by this issue, but I'm completely > shocked that a wonderful program like Gimp would have such a > complete regression. I'm using the distro version of Gimp > (OpenSUSE); I haven't tried to compile the latest version from > source. > > I also tried Gimp for Windows on my wife's Windows Vista > computer. Printing here is just as much of a failure. On > Windows, it's actually worse since the page setup options that > Gimp provides conflict with the printer driver's settings (e.g. > paper size, rotation, etc.). I tried all permutations of > portrait/landscape and could never find a way to print correctly. > > Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Erik > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user My history with Gimp is much more limited than yours. I have always used Gimp for creation/manipulation of images and some other program for printing out the results in a document. When I rarely need to print color work locally I throw a switch to redirect traffic to my Epson Stylus Color 880 and select that printer from the Cups popup. Someday I hope to get a color laser. But I will still use Gimp for image massaging and something else to print out the results. Perhaps I should test Gutenprint directly from Gimp just to be sure it works. My Epson 880 is ancient. Hence it is well understood by software. When it dies I may try to find another on EBay. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Print Quality Poorer than Word?
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 09:59:10 pm bumpkin wrote: > The graphics guy sent me our logo as a .jpg so I created a new > file with the appropriate dimensions in the lasest GIMP for > windows. I imported and scaled down the logo to the appropriate > size and placed it at the top, finished adding the text, combined > the layers and exported as a .tiff for the printer. The logo and > text resolution on the print out was terrible... I tried printing > it in the original GIMP format and as jpeg... same quality. > > I then tried created the same add in Word 2007 and the image and > text quality was excellent :( I am a linux user and was rather > frustrated and confused when Word produced better print quality > than GIMP. Any explanation or help greatly appreciated. Thanks > > -B As my father would say, there are horses for courses. Although Gimp has some nice type effects it is not really a typesetting engine. In a book or an ad small type is vector in nature. Gimp is basically bitmap in nature. I find that using a combination of tools works best. For example you could create your ad in Gimp except for the small type. Import that image into Scribus and set the type there overlaying the graphic art. You could use TeX also (particularly the Context variant) but that is a lot more trouble. For examples of Gimp/Scribus combination images please visit http://wexfordpress.net/illos.html. Look at the Loon Lake Legacy romantic novel example in particular. The main title type is from a Gimp logo with some layers supressed. The spine and the back cover type is set by Scribus. This particular book cover image is created at 72 DPI for web use. For a real book I would use 300 DPI. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 04:59:45 pm Sven Neumann wrote: > On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 21:09 -0400, John Culleton wrote: > > On Monday 20 July 2009 07:00:08 pm Jernej Simončič wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:47:53 -0400, John Culleton wrote: > > > > The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball > > > > is what should be included IMO. > > > > > > Should GIMP then also include matching GTK+ and GLib? And > > > other mandatory dependencies? > > > > The hangup for many users is gegl and babl, and not the other > > requirements. The distros are more likely to include them. > > perhaps it is because gegl and babl are relatively new > > libraries, while the others have been with us for quite a > > while. > > Users don't build software from source. If you are building > software yourself, then you are a developer. And you shouldn't > really have a problem to compile these libraries then. If you > have questions, you are of course free to ask them and we will > try to help. But please don't ask us to simplify the build > process in such awkward ways. The source tree is not aimed at > users. Users should use whatever their distro offers. > > > Sven Understood. However I find Gimp 2.6 better than 2.4, which is what the latest stable version of my distro offers. So I will continue to be a user who compiles. I must admit, compiling is becoming more difficult. Scribus uses cmake. Inkscape uses Automake and requires that you install Boehm-GC and Boost. The day of untar, ./configure, make and make install is apparently passing. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to Combine Layers with Feathered or Softened Edges
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 01:58:33 pm James Cobban wrote: > I am trying to combine images scanned from microfilm in the case > where the lens on the microfilm scanner is too powerful to permit > me to scan an entire page into a single image file. I believe > that this application is similar to trying to create a landscape > from multiple photographs. > > I scan the original into a PDF containing multiple images. I > then open this PDF as layers. I have been able to rearrange the > layers, raise and lower them, and merge them to create a single > image file, but I have 2 problems: > > 1) Sometime the key spots within the layers which I need to line > up prior to merging the layers are not right on the edge of > either layer. To perform the alignment I need to make at least > the outer portion of the upper layer partially transparent so I > can properly align them. > 2) Once I am finished the contrast between the two layers is > generally such that the edge of the upper layer is clearly > visible in the merged result. Once again if I could make the > outer edge of the upper layer transparent on a gradient to fully > transparent at the edge, I could make the edge invisible. I > think of this operation as "feathering" the layer, but searching > through the documentation and web guides I can only find > "feathering" as applicable to images, not layers. > > The following is an example of the result I currently have: > > http://www.jamescobban.net/Ontario/images/B1912_33007.jpg > Combined image from microfilm. This is described well in "The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects", page 47. Basically it involves applying a gradient to a layer mask. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP
>> Von: Martin Nordholts > >> GIMP 2.6.6 has had really bad stability on Windows and no one knows why. > >And not everyone is affected by it. > >> Hopefully it will disappear as quickly in 2.6.7 as it appeared in 2.6.6. > >Please note that this does mean that - to my knowledge - no one is working to fix this, because no problem has been identified that could be fixed. We're really just hoping that this is an issue of the build rather than a bug in the GIMP source. > > >HTH, >Michael > Thanks for the info. I can use everything else and was looking to explore the GEGL operations. I will wait for the next build. John. -- John (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Monday 20 July 2009 07:00:08 pm Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:47:53 -0400, John Culleton wrote: > > The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball is > > what should be included IMO. > > Should GIMP then also include matching GTK+ and GLib? And other > mandatory dependencies? The hangup for many users is gegl and babl, and not the other requirements. The distros are more likely to include them. perhaps it is because gegl and babl are relatively new libraries, while the others have been with us for quite a while. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Monday 20 July 2009 05:25:12 pm Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 07/20/2009 11:20 PM, John Culleton wrote: > > I see no compelling reason not to include the libs in the > > tarball. > > What is so problematic about fetching the libs from ftp.gimp.org? > That is certainly an improvement over searching the web. But go to the top of this thread and see the turmoil one user went through trying to get Gimp going. > If you suggest we should have the actual babl and GEGL code in > the GIMP tarball, this is a bad idea. babl and GEGL are version > controlled in different git repos, and it is not an option to > version control them in the GIMP repo. They are separate, > self-contained libraries. > > / Martin The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball is what should be included IMO. Presumably that is the version that is on gimp.org now. If e.g. Slackware can prepackage Gimp with all the required libraries it seems to me that the Gimp folks could do the same. But I guess we will have to disagree on this. Regards, -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Monday 20 July 2009 03:41:14 pm Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 07/20/2009 09:35 PM, John Culleton wrote: > > On Sunday 19 July 2009 05:13:06 am you wrote: > >> On 07/19/2009 03:16 AM, John Culleton wrote: > >> > IMO > >>> > >>> these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp > >>> release itself but there may be turf issues that prevent > >>> that. > >> > >> Embedding babl and GEGL in the GIMP tarball would make usage > >> of GEGL by other projects much more complicated, and we don't > >> want that. A library shared between many apps will have much > >> more development and maintenance than a library only used by a > >> single app, so we should encourage usage of these libraries by > >> other projects. > >> > >>/ Martin > > > > I look at it from the point of view of the user, who just wants > > to install the program and get it running on his/her machine. > > If you just want to install gimp and run it, use the package > manager that comes with your distro. By nature, building software > can be quite complicated and is not intended for "normal" users. > > Also, please keep the discussion on-list. > > / Martin For Slack users the packages are usually a year or more old so we get in the habit of compiling from a more current tarball. Also, many packages are not included in the distros. Open Cobol is a good example. Everybody compiles it. Currently I am at Gimp 2.6.6 and I had to go through the gegl and babl stuff again (new computer). I see no compelling reason not to include the libs in the tarball. -- Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com For books on self-publishing please consult: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Are There Gimp Beginner Level Tutorials?
On Sunday 19 July 2009 04:22:39 pm laurenp...@aol.com wrote: > I'm a beginner and need to learn the basics. If there are > tutorials where can I find them? > > LNF There are lots of tutorials floating around, but I find the old book _Grokking the Gimp_ or the newer book _The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects_ the tutorials I look at most often. No, they aren't cheap. The complete manual is also available both for purchase and for download but it is more of a reference book, going 850 pages or so. If you Google on Gimp Tutorial you will get many answers but some are pretty obsolete (like 2002). -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Saturday 18 July 2009 08:54:14 pm Greg S. wrote: > Hi, when I use ./configure the message says at the end that can't > find babl > > checking for BABL... configure: error: Package requirements (babl > >= 0.1.0) were not met: > > No package 'babl' found > > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if > you installed software in a non-standard prefix. > > does anyone have any suggestions please. You have to download, compile (?) and install the latest versions of babl and gegl. It is a royal pain but once it is done you are set for several upgrades, until Gimp requires a newer version. IMO these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP
Using Gimp 2.6.6 on XP SP3 and all current updates. When attempting at open the GEGL dialog, Gimp crashes. Anything else that I try works just fine (so far). Is this known? Is there a work around? Gimp 2.6.4 did not crash. -- John (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user