Re: CSNo energy
Tell her to get the pre methylated folic acid and the coenzymated B vits, I think it will make a marked difference for your friend. The doc is going to poo poo any nutrient questions and leave her in limbo. and not getting well Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Smitty wrote: I just received another email from my friend with more info on her health condition. ~~ Smitty. Was told I have abnormal homocysteince levels and in researching this I found this info. Since my doctor, with ultrasound, also found a shadow on my kidney which he is monitoring, thought this was interesting. Also, my mom died at age 55 of a heart attack, so I'm glad I am getting help on this condition. Thyroid is fine in my case. You may want to pass this on to friends. Will ask my dr about the type folic acid he has prescribed. According to the American Heart Association, homocysteine levels correlate with genetic factors as well as diet. A diet low in folic acid and B vitamins has notable links to an increased level of homocysteine in the blood. Family Doctor.org attests that other causes include medication use, low thyroid hormone levels, psoriasis and kidney disease On 5/8/10, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: NO! No iron unless previous complete blood iron panel with ferritin shows it to be necessary. I say this because you did not distinguish between women still having menses, and post menopausal women. Excess iron is too risky to just start taking it without knowing one's iron status, which requires a complete iron panel (total iron, hemoglobin, hematocrit, transferrin saturation, ferritin) at the minimum. sol Carol Ann wrote: And for a woman in particular, a extra little Iron for the blood would not hurt. Good list --- On *Fri, 5/7/10, Rowena /new...@internode.on.net/* wrote: Virgin coconut oil. Magnascent iodine. Review sleep protocols. Review minerals and trace elements. Magnesium, etc. Ginseng, probably. Parasite protocols. EFT protocols. (Emotional Freedom Technique). Vegetable juicing. Aloe vera. Only do half what you think you can do. Any vitamin B etc. products could be dissolved in DMSO and applied through the skin. Liposomal supplements http://www.healthyitems.com/nanoliposomals-s/41.htm R On 8/05/2010 2:45 AM, Smitty wrote: I have a friend who is a little enemic taking B-12 shots and folic acid. She is tired and no energy. Any ideas to improve her condition ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNo energy
Oh I forgot, TMG will help lower homocysteine levels too, but it will NOT do her any good at all and will be a waste of time and money until your friend gets Folic Acid and B Vit levels normalized as TMG requires folic acid and B vits to do it's thing, and a sulfur source. The Folic acid leveles and the B vits are the critical things and should be the priority right now. Benfotiamine is a fat soluble form of B1 that will help protect the brain and kidneys, it has been proven in scentific studies. It might be a good idea for her to get that separately. A good dose of Lugol's every day will incite abnormal cell apoptosis if she has a growth in the kidney. If it's just a kidney stone malic acid will help dissolve it, malic acid is derived from apples mostly, and it can also be had from Apple Cider Vinegar. Malic acid capsules can also be bought. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Smitty wrote: Thanks to all for your info helping my tired friend. You people are the greatest !! Smitty ~~~ Tell her to get the pre methylated folic acid and the coenzymated B vits, I think it will make a marked difference for your friend. The doc is going to poo poo any nutrient questions and leave her in limbo. and not getting well Annie Smitty wrote: I just received another email from my friend with more info on her health condition. ~~ Smitty. Was told I have abnormal homocysteince levels and in researching this I found this info. Since my doctor, with ultrasound, also found a shadow on my kidney which he is monitoring, thought this was interesting. Also, my mom died at age 55 of a heart attack, so I'm glad I am getting help on this condition. Thyroid is fine in my case. You may want to pass this on to friends. Will ask my dr about the type folic acid he has prescribed. According to the American Heart Association, homocysteine levels correlate with genetic factors as well as diet. A diet low in folic acid and B vitamins has notable links to an increased level of homocysteine in the blood. Family Doctor.org attests that other causes include medication use, low thyroid hormone levels, psoriasis and kidney disease -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation Technique
Supposedly it has to do with uptake by body cells. Liposomal is supposed to be utilized by the body cells much better, therefor a much lower dose is needed. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh polo wrote: Thanks for the reply, but that link does not really address my question. It is referring to the regular absorbed Vit C in the gut at an average of 19% as compared to Liposomal Vit C in the gut at 93%. Ok, I can easily buy that fact, what I am wondering how can, 5 grams of liposomal C, even at 93% availability to the blood stream, produce an effect similar to 50 grams of intravenously given Vit C? After all, if 93% of the 5 grams of liposomal Vit C gets into the blood stream---it would be 4.65 grams. Understand what I am saying? So how can 5 grams of liposomal Vit C equal 50 grams of intravenous Vit C? I would say it would be quite logical for 5 grams of liposomal Vit C at 93% absorbability to equal 4.65 grams of IV vitamin C. Now that sounds reasonable to me. doug - Original Message - *From:* Garrick mailto:zzen...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:35 PM *Subject:* Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation Technique http://www.letstalkhealth.com/Liposomal-Vitamin-C-p/614.htm *Increase Absorption Dramatically* - Regular vitamin C is absorbed at approximately 19%, the balance remains in the gastrointestinal tract to attract water and loosen the bowels. Nanotechnology, liposomalized vitamin C is absorbed at 93%, measurable in the blood stream. A 390% increase in absorption! Get IV results with oral dosage! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNo energy
Get the already methylated version of Folic Acid. A good portion of the population has a MTHF defect that prevents proper methylation of folic acid. The methylated version is already in its methylated state so it goes right to work. There are a lot of things that cause loss of energy, hypothyroidism, adrenal fatigue, iron deficiency, on and on and on. She might want to try the coenzymated version of the B vits too. They're already in the proper form for the body to use them. Sublingual would probably be best to get around any gut absorption issues. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Smitty wrote: I have a friend who is a little enemic taking B-12 shots and folic acid. She is tired and no energy. Any ideas to improve her condition ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
Just a general reply, but heck even science these days says there may be 12 or more dimensions, that they know nothing about. I think they're going to find that those dimensions have their own inhabitants good and bad. Science based on what can be observed with the human senses is necessarily flawed because there are things we can't directly observe, our senses are too limited. And no one yet has invented a gadget capable of detecting what we can't. Yeah we can get EMF data, and other data but it isn't quite enough to prove anything to die hard empirical scientists. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Carol Ann wrote: And i agree thirdly. For all practical purposes, the meta physical planes are no different than the physical/material world..one would not jeopardize or willingly expose themselves by knowingly going into neighborhoods that are infested with drugs, gangs or denizens of physical darkness on the material plane. If they did, it would not be, without having sufficient swat team backups. In notorious neighborhoods, most cops won't even get out of their patrol cars. Unless of course, they wanted to be a Savior, and we all know what eventually happens to Saviors. Its commonly said, As above, so below Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html --- On *Thu, 5/6/10, Golden Aldi /goldena...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:38 AM Hi Marshall, I'm with you and Boddhi. I haven't had much of any experience worth mentioning, but I would never provoke. Its not a part of my nature, and I find being provocative is projecting negative energy, and there's enough of that out there. I'm also interested in acquiring some orgonite, since I have not been able to make any of my own, but that is my goal, to make my own, and spread the stuff around, and educate other fellow human beings here in Germany. 99% are so clueless, and I haven't been able to hook up with the other 1%. Aldi On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: bodhisattva wrote: I do not recommend you try entity removal yourself unless you are absolutely sure of your spiritual power - and have no major doubts or chinks in your armor. (character flaws) I agree with you there. I don't have that much trouble with evil spirits, basically human spirits that were wicked when alive, I find that asking for protection and surrounding oneself with light works quite well and I keep my home filled with orgonite so they can't get me or my wife when I am not paying attention. Also I have a very powerful guardian angel. However I will NOT take on demons. If they can't get you directly they will go after loved ones and friends. I simply cannot expose my family and friends to anything like that. Our paranormal group has lost two members to demons, a priest and a demonologist when they did exorcisms. I have only taken on one demon and that was by accident, didn't know what we were dealing with until after the fact, and we did not take it on directly, but rather were working to free subordinate spirits from its grasp, and had asked it to be bound until the captured spirits could go to the light, which most did. One of the most amazing set of recordings we have ever gotten, as 16 or so spirits saw the light, were greeted by loved ones, and proceeded to the light, with us recording what they had to say the whole time. Anyway once we were done apparently the demonic presence was released, but had lost most of its power without the subjugated spirits, and was really pissed. He was throwing dishes and silverware all over the house and the people had to leave eventually abandoning the house. That was before we knew about orgonite. We have some members that I feel are reckless that will challenge a spirit, and try to really provoke it. There is one spirit at TMG that resides in the lady's bathroom that has scratched 3 of our investigators at different times when they provoked it. I feel that is lowering your vibration and opening yourself up for attack and will not do it, and have never been attacked. I would never ask to be attacked or provoke, but some of the fellow investigators do, and I think it is foolish. I will be contacting you off list to order. Also I would like to discuss the construction of the hhg with you, I
Re: CSOrgonite/Marshall
OOps, I have my SO and CS emails in one folder, didn't notice where it was going:) I'll move it to the OT list. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Marshall Dudley wrote: I would really like to respond to this, but this topic is being discussed on the off topic list, not here. Marshall Annie B Smythe wrote: Just a general reply, but heck even science these days says there may be 12 or more dimensions, that they know nothing about. I think they're going to find that those dimensions have their own inhabitants good and bad. Science based on what can be observed with the human senses is necessarily flawed because there are things we can't directly observe, our senses are too limited. And no one yet has invented a gadget capable of detecting what we can't. Yeah we can get EMF data, and other data but it isn't quite enough to prove anything to die hard empirical scientists. Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - GMO Problems
Not only soldiers, but their kids have suffered from various abnormalities. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh gwms...@optonline.net wrote: Don't know much about this stuff-- Just remeber the mention of Agent Orange years ago on the news, wasn't that what made so many soldiers sick When I tried to read the article you referred to discovered they had pulled the website Gladys - Original Message - From: Hanneke Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 9:32 pm Subject: Re: CSOT - GMO Problems To: silver-list@eskimo.com Are you saying that you couldn't access the article I referred to about Monsanto/Round-Up? The article you posted is dated March 2007. I am not a fan of Rima Laidbow. Some of her info however is well documented. At 10:39 AM 6/05/2010, you wrote: *healthfreedomusa http://bitchslappin.net/global-corporations/healthfreedomusaorg-yanked-by-webhost-after-big-pharma-slap-newsletter*.*org* yanked by webhost after Big Pharma Slap *...* http://bitchslappin.net/global-corporations/healthfreedomusaorg-yanked-by-webhost-after-big-pharma-slap-newsletter Mar 14, 2007 *...* Dr. Laibow just sent out a followup newsletter to let all of us know her site, *HealthFreedomUSA*.*org*, the site of the Natural Solutions *...* bitchslappin.net/.../*healthfreedomusaorg* -yanked-by-webhost-after-big-pharma-slap-newsletter - Cached http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:e3OG26OUm-wJ:bitchslappin.net/global-corporations/healthfreedomusaorg-yanked-by-webhost-after-big-pharma-slap-newsletter+www.healthfreedomusa.orgcd=8hl=enct=clnkgl=us - Similar http://www.google.com/search?hl=enrls=com.microsoft:en-usrlz=1I7HPIA_enq=related:bitchslappin.net/global-corporations/healthfreedomusaorg-yanked-by-webhost-after-big-pharma-slap-newsletter+www.healthfreedomusa.orgtbo=psa=Xei=wBXiS8rTJ8H_lgeA86ywAgved=0CDkQHzAH - Original Message - From: Hanneke Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 7:17 pm Subject: Re: CSOT - GMO Problems To: silver-list@eskimo.com That's perhaps why Monsanto 'improved' their Round Up, now containing up to 70% Agent Orange http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2915 At 08:39 AM 6/05/2010, you wrote: Looks like the weeds have outsmarted Monsanto. But I feel sorry for the farmers. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
Re: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto
Not only that but fluorides, and other chemicals in the water and food, and plastics and just about everything cause ill health effects. And many of them are estrogemic or intergere with normal hormone functions of the body. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Peter Converse wrote: Sowas Kurt right all along with his rants (a couple of years ago) about how they were trying to depopulate planet earth?? seems like Monsanto's found a great way to mess with sperm counts among male soy eaters and, as well, among the male offspring of female soy eaters. ...and what about elevating estrogen levels to insidiously cause cancers in women? I wonder if it works as well with wheat, corn and rice when they're engineered to be round-up ready? H.. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Re: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto The real conspiracy is to turn us all into sleepy girls. %% But we remain unconvinced that transgenic soybeans are strictly equivalent to conventional ones. For one, the amino acid composition of engineered soybeans is likely to differ. Here's why. To create Roundup Ready soybeans, Monsanto's genetic engineers boost the activity of a gene which makes critical amino acids like **trytophan** [The thanksgiving turkey sleepy drug]. The fact that these amino acids are in greater abundance inside plant cells not only confers resistance to Roundup® herbicide, but likely shifts plant metabolism as well. One of the main biosynthetic products of soybean metabolism is a class of compounds called isoflavonoids. These plant substances, because they have a remarkable similarity to our body's own estrogens, are called phytoestrogens. Estrogenic substances play critical roles in controlling sexual differentiation. Hence, it is essential to know how much or little phytoestrogen is present in soy products. A recent non-industry research team headed by Dr. H. Sandermann and working in Germany found data that suggests Roundup Ready soybeans may have elevated phytoestrogens. These researchers discovered that glyphosate treatment of legumes (fava beans in this case) like soybeans increases the level of plant estrogens. If confirmed, this study provides disturbing evidence that transgenic crops are not only different, but may well have a dramatic impact on the health and well-being of those who rely on soy protein as a major part of their diet. While increased amounts of phytoestrogens in adult diets may protect against certain malignancies or provide other benefits, equally benevolent effects are unlikely if such estrogenic substances enter the diet of newborns. %% Soy beans already have Phytoestrogens in them.MORE? ..I like girls just fine, sleepy or not and half of us say it ain't so bad to be one. ..just so long as they don't look like soy bean gobbling female turkeys. [er, no thanx given there ] Ode At 03:05 PM 5/2/2010 -0400, you wrote: They already own the patent on every soybean in the world! GM is Roundup Ready this means they can spray Roundup on soybean crops and only the weeds will be killed. How much Roundup are we getting with soymilk, beans, etc??? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Bob Banever mailto:bbane...@earthlink.netbbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Anne, Monsanto is THE most evil company on the planet. They are tryoing to poison the entire human population with their GM foods. They are a bunch of nazis, nothing more and nothing less. Bob - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.comanniebsmy...@gmail.com To: CS List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:55 AM Subject: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto Meat claimed as invention by Monsanto http://www.gmwatch.eu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=12178http://www.gmwatch.eu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=12178 Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton mailto:day.sut...@gmail.comday.sut...@gmail.com
CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto
Meat claimed as invention by Monsanto http://www.gmwatch.eu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=12178 Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnnie - pitcher filter type?
It's a Seychelle Large Family Pitcher. :) Cheapest one I found was on eBay. But I also just bought a counter top 50 GPD RO unit. Easy peasy to set up and use, no fooling about with plumbing under the sink, in fact my daughter hooked it up in less than 10 minutes, and it's doing a bang up job:) Annie Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh jessie70 wrote: Annie what water pitcher are you using? Jess -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid If you don't take enough selenium with the Iodine it WILL cause you grief and CAN damage the thyroid. I've upped my dose to 50 mg per day of 2% Lugol's, I started with 5 mg and worked my way up slowly, and I take 400 - 600 mg of the selenomethionine form of Selenium daily. When I don't take the Iodine I feel like crap. My thyroid felt swollen on one side and I had a small nodule on my thyroid which is slowly shrinking. The doc did not do a thyroid antibody test but he did say I had elevated antibodies according to my lab results. When I first started taking the Iodine my thyroid swelled some, but it is now a normal size. I feel physically much better. Detox/herx symptoms can be a bear but if you take extra magnesium, vit C, selenium, zinc and copper, and manganese, and use sea salt and plenty of water this can be reduced greatly. That and backing off on the dose until you feel a bit better. If you have a lot of toxins to detox the detox pathways can be overcome and this causes the detox/herx symptoms, or a viral load die off, or candida/fungus die off. The minerals the shepherd the halides, mercury and other stuff out are the ones I've listed above. You don't have a chance to get too much of them because the get used up binding to toxins and carrying them out, usually through the urine. And the body needs some of them for regular maintenance and enzyme production. I also added milk thistle, and dandelion to my regime to support the liver, and R ALA to boost glutathione. It also helped that I found a pitcher that filters everything including 80 - 90 % of fluoride from my tap water. And cutting out MSG, aspartame, and breads made from brominated flours, as well as all soft drinks, and upping my pure water intake to nearly 90 0z per day. I also added vit D3, and sea salt to my regime quite a while back and cut out almost all the processed salt. Those with autoimmune hypothyroid issues MUST take the selenium, it's NOT an option, or it WILL cause problems, especially with antibodies. I get so tired of people not doing it the recommended way and then saying it's harmful. Or expecting it to work over night. Stephanie's(The Iodine list Mom) husband took at least a year to bring his Hashi's antibodies down to nothing. So it's a long term thing, and sometimes in the interim the thyroid usually WILL swell to grab more Iodine, when it has enough it will start to reduce in size. My thyroid kind of went up and down in size for two months or so before it settled down. But man oh man the detoxing I was doing during that time. I won't say that my thyroid swelling up even more, like that didn't scare me to death, it did, but I was also told that it would go back down again, and it did. But I guess everyone gets to health in their own way, there are many choices out there and a lot of research. I researched Iodine, the recommendations of nutrients to take with it and why, and the even the reports against it, thoroughly for several months before I made the decision to buy the Iodine and give it go. I haven't been sorry yet. Well except for an initial bad detox/herx reaction, LOL. I haven't lowered my thyroid med dose yet, I still have to get blood work done to see what my TSH, T4, T3 levels are doing. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: How high was your dosage, and for how long did you take it? Alan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Having been hypothryoid and having done this, I would *highly* that folks with that condition look into the high iodine dosing. I am no longer hypothyroid and it cleared up a lot of other issues for me. Another case of varying mileage. Craig needling around wrote: Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed
Re: CSStatistics, and Death.
Malic acid will soften and dissolve gallstones, either buy it as malic acid tabs, capsules, or drink a quart of apple juice every day for a couple of weeks or so. Then you can drink coconut oil 8 oz or some such to help flush them out. Apple Cider Vinegar will work too, but the concentrated malic acid works faster. Swanson's metal shield is cheap and works great for detox. You don't have to spend a fortune to detox.It has both fulvic acid and humic acid, one helps nutrients enter the cells and the other pulls metals from the system. Beyond a Century has pure Shilajit powder with no added fillers or anything, for 8.50 per 50 grm, you take 250 mg twice a day. This stuff works! I've been using it for nearly a month now and zowy what a difference! I would never ever have thought something so simple would make that much of a difference in the way I feel but it darned sure does. And it doesn't break your pocket book. It might take a week or so of steady use, maybe less time for some or a little more time for some, but it has really kicked in the last couple of days. My body temp has risen to normal and stayed there. My brain seems clearer. It's worth the price just for that by itself. It helps detox the body and feed the cells. If you take R ALA or ALA it's important to take something to make mercury exit the body, R ALA and ALA knock mercury and stuff loose from the brain. Or at least that's what I understand. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:54 AM, bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com wrote: http://plantcures.com/herbsfordetoxification.html It looks a really interesting site and the tea looks good but Im not in the habit of putting any capsule in my body unless I have an idea what's in it. Any idea what's in the detox capsules and the bottle? I couldn't find the info. Thanks Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again
A pinch of good ol' sea salt will do it. Not enough to make the water salty just add a few trace minerals. Or you can buy an ionic trace mineral and add a couple of drop per gallon. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Leslie wrote: OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
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Hi Dee, Annie, (...others Fearing; Body-Snatch/Brain-Drain,
Alien-Invasionetc.)
[IF NO SENSE-OF-HUMOR FOR...BRAIN-FARTS...SKIP DOWN...OR DELETE]
Trust ME, after Reading through Comedy~Seisure...SERIOUS-STUFF...BELOW!
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Get Excited...when someone asking 'questions'
like...Where, are-People-Hiding?
WATT's...GOING-ON Here? Why, wasn't I Informed-Earlier...Better turn-on
TV..!!!
Now OK...since MEMBERS Posting...and late-word from Home-Land-Defense of
(rumors) and LIVE-SAT-DATA/(LSD) TACTICAL-ASSESSMENT/(TA) by; CIA
FBI, KGB, MI5, BBC, FDA, FTC, PGA, NBA, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, ETC...OK!
As (some) may-recall...after the 911-ATTACK(s) in USA few
years ago...Security
needed to be upgraded and NEW measures implemented...using the latest HIGH
TECH/(State-of-the-Art) Bio-Nano-Sensor to assist in [Surveillance
Tracking].
BioSensor-Technology/(BS~T) and Nano~Nano's...from MORK/(Robin Williams)
OK, off-record...I'm (retired) Aero-Space/Engineer 50's~80's
TV Sit-Com-Junky!
So Scientific-Research-Community/(SRC) Aero-Space-Defense-Industry/(ASDI)
delivered Secret Satellite-Based-People-Tracking/(SBPT) System...April
1, 2010.
News Media, General Public...even General
Electric/(company?) Left-in-the-Dark.
bUt Government...totally-concealed all Development
Funding/(and Production) of,
what later became know by TS code-name as Welfare Program [TAITP~WBSF]?
When I first read Dee's where-is-everyone? posting...realized
this would maybe
perhaps be best-timing I would ever-get, to (accidentally) share
a BIG-SECRET?
IF NEVER see me POST again...either 'Men-in-Black', or Mike~Dev...Got-to-me!
TAITP~WBSF deciphered: [Their-All-In-Their-Places~With-Big-Smiley-Faces] ;~}
LoL...My Kinder-garden teacher had kids singing song...with
similar wording.g
RX=SMILE
Dok Dallas
P.S. As to answering (potential) Real CS/EIS Issues...I'm no GURU, or SWAMI
so feel-free to SEEK 2nd Opinion G Ode saying-nothing...maybe a cover-up?
Dok's, been Brewing CS/EIS (16~17+ years)...early 199x's and slight YELLOW
and GOLDEN tint back-in-early 'DaZe'...was how we knew our BREW was-done
before using any trode-voltage ckt's, or EC/IONIC
Conductivity Meters...to Buy?
If it's Clear-Yellow...trust it's (by optical-interference) off
your larger Ag particles,
but if it's a CLOUDY Yellow (or any other Colors)...then lQQk
for Real-Problem?
If you get Tyndall, using RED Laser, you have some-degree of (larger)
Particles
and can-go-by what Neville said, about evaluating (brightness),
for an-estimate?
(See Marshall has been posting-info on Particles-Size
vs Photo-Spectrometry~)
FYI: Using a Blue 405-nm Laser, or even Green
LD...can-detect smaller...Size!
Have gone down to 385-nm (non-laser) light source, using special TRIX PMT.
(Not sure Particle(s) Size PEAKING at 405 nm, but-maybe...Marshall knows?)
Adding few-drops of H2O2 to EIS (ONLY-24hr after Ending BREW cycle) it will
be able to trigger a CATALYTIC reaction with (metallic) Silver
to Bust-Up stable
LARGER PARTICLE...back down in Size to smaller (one/two) Atom Particles?
Tyndall will become LESS apparent (using RED), but 405~Blue still Detecting!
As long as it's only-slightly Yellow (and don't Smell/Taste like P*ss),
it's GQQD
to use for ANY application you wanted, but for INTERNAL use...It's UP-to
user?
While Neville DOWN-under may G use reservations...I prefer, Splash-a-Dash
of 3% (food-grade) Hydrogen Peroxide into NIX Silver-Nuggets, to TINY
IONIC.
Never hurts to keep everything including Ag~electrodes LABORATORY KLEEN
as others mentioned, RINSE (x2) by DW after using H202 Q-TIP on Trode(s).
NOTE: Drug-Store (3%) Hydrogen Peroxide MAY...contain a
little, Acetanilide?
H2O2...clears Yellow Free's-IONS..?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetanilide
In some parts of the World (other than USA)...may
find Tin-salts...other...Stuff?
Back in 1800's Acetanilide was used like Aspirin...Close relative, to
TYLANOL.
(Not sure how much, in bottle of 3% H2O2, but suspect NOT~HEALTH Issue?)
FYI: I'm of IRISH/(Humor/Extrovert{;-}})
GERMAN/(Das-Engineer/Scientific!!!)
CS in Irish-Wiskey Beer...Pineapple, CoCoNut, Rum...for PinaColloidal G
Irish Whisky was introduced eons-ago...to keep US-Irish...from Rulling
World?
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Re: CSwhere is everyone?
*Giggle* *Twirls fingers in the air* Oh swami of lost list members, can you tell me where the wandering ones are? *listens closely* What? Did you hear that? What was that? Was that you Swami? Ohhh my, the dog let out a snore, LMAO. Nope, the swami isn't telling tonight.. LOL Sorry Dee :D I know your questions are important, but I couldn't resist *Giggles insanely* Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone tell me where Ode and Marshall and everyone are please? Its just I have some questions to ask about CS and no-one seems to be picking up! Thanks dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFwd: phenomena
Hm, well I understand that iodine is an oxidizer, maybe that why the clearing effect? If you had added ascorbic acid, I wonder if it would have cleared it up too. DMSO is a solvent, so maybe it dissolved some of the plastic into your solution. I read on the labels of the DMSO jars now safe for DMSO storage or something like that. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Has anyone any ideas? dee Begin forwarded message: From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Date: 8 April 2010 09:27:20 GMT+01:00 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: phenomena Hi folks, at last a silver-related question lol! I put some 20ppm CS in a plastic pot along with about 25% DMSO which after a few hours turned almost black. This I assumed was because there was something in the plastic pot that I had not quite got out--I am always putting different stuff in these pots! I then put in a couple of drops of nascent iodine which normally doesn't colour the water (like Lugols does) and within hours it had almost completely cleared! Can any of you brainy folks out there explain this? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick?????
I'm a little less charitable. I believe for most it's just plain laziness. They don't want to put in the effort it takes to LEARN what they need to know, to take intelligent informed action, unless their comfortable little world, provided to keep them content, is upset (and usually by then it's too late). They actually prefer to let others make decisions for them and tell them what to do instead of using the minds they have to winnow out the lies and BS. That's why we call them sheople. A herd blindly following ill chosen shepherds. And this occurs in every area; economic, health, education, religion, and etc. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Richard Goodwin wrote: You are right. There is something about most people that makes us want to be taken care of -- perhaps it's a desire to return to the warm loving safety and security of our childhood in our parents' arms, if we had that, so we never stop looking for new parents long after we are all grown up. Whatever it is, it causes us to give our trust to anyone who professes to know more about something than we do, and to be willing to take care of us -- teachers, doctors, religious leaders, political leaders, etc. Instead of seeing those people as servants or hired help, which they actually are, we prefer to idolize them and subjugate ourselves to their opinions and their wills. And of course any time you give your freedom to someone, they will certainly use it, not for your good, but for their own benefit. But that's why we're all here -- to learn how to help ourselves using, among other things, Colloidal Silver. Dick - Original Message From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 8:26:35 AM Subject: Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick? The trouble is Dick, then they say you are just lucky! I know, I meet it all the time. I cure my dog myself even with things like abscesses etc., but friends still trot off to the vets - 'just in case!' dee On 8 Apr 2010, at 01:24, Richard Goodwin wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSScientists develop environmentally friendly way to produce propylene oxide using silver nanoclusters
Oh but haven't you heard? Nano silver is the deadliest stuff.(sarcasm) Scientists develop environmentally friendly way to produce propylene oxide using silver nanoclusters http://bit.ly/b6mqGw Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick
Yeah Dee, it's just a confirmation for me too. You can find the whole talk by this same guy on you tube if you put his name in a search on youtube. Heck, that is if you can get youtube across the pond:/ Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: This is such an eye opener Annie, but doesn't surprise me at all I have to say! dee On 6 Apr 2010, at 20:00, Annie B Smythe wrote: Got this in an email this morning, thought y'all might find it interesting and informative. A whistleblower claims the drug industry wants to keep us sick. Video is in English http://fun.mivzakon.co.il/video/General/3651/%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F,_%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%96%D7%90%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%97%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94.html Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick?????
I have no idea, it works okay for me. I just clicked it and the page came up. Here's the first segment of the talk on YouTube, maybe this one will work better for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmi3ihrUHJUfeature=PlayListp=2EC8BBB562A6EE2Fplaynext_from=PLplaynext=1index=24 Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Marlene Hanson wrote: Do you know why the address will not come up for me? What do I ask for on you tube? Thank you Marlene -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick?????
Ooooh thank you Sunny:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Sunny wrote: Better link to the same man, filmed by others. Better vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmi3ihrUHJU sunny x -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick
Got this in an email this morning, thought y'all might find it interesting and informative. A whistleblower claims the drug industry wants to keep us sick. Video is in English http://fun.mivzakon.co.il/video/General/3651/%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F,_%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%96%D7%90%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%97%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94.html Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCourt finds that BAYER INTENTIONALLY CONTAMINATED U.S. RICE
Ahhh but there's a magic word called class action lawsuit and lots of money hungry lawyers that will take the suit if they smell money in the water;) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Lisa wrote: Here here! I SO agree...the only problem is that these small farmers don't have the funds to take on Monsanto who will throw 20 or more lawyers at them. I so wholeheartedly agree though -- the farmers should be suing Monsanto for contaminating THEIR heirloom corn with THEIR bogus GMO crap! Lisa -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:20 AM To: CS List Subject: CSCourt finds that BAYER INTENTIONALLY CONTAMINATED U.S. RICE What did I say not long ago? Yep, I believe ALL the GMO so called test fields were placed where they could contaminate regular fields, not just rice. I'm waiting for the lawsuits against Monasanto. I hope so many farmers sue them they go bankrupt. Yeah, I know that's terrible but so is what those companies are doing to us, food crops, the entire environment, animals and insects. BAYER INTENTIONALLY CONTAMINATED U.S. RICE - COURT An Arkansas court has ruled that Bayer CropScience intentionally contaminated US rice supplies with its unapproved GM rice. The court ordered the company to pay a farmer who suffered losses when his rice was contaminated with Bayer's GM product, a total of US$1.3 million. http://gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/12041 Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCourt finds that BAYER INTENTIONALLY CONTAMINATED U.S. RICE
What did I say not long ago? Yep, I believe ALL the GMO so called test fields were placed where they could contaminate regular fields, not just rice. I'm waiting for the lawsuits against Monasanto. I hope so many farmers sue them they go bankrupt. Yeah, I know that's terrible but so is what those companies are doing to us, food crops, the entire environment, animals and insects. BAYER INTENTIONALLY CONTAMINATED U.S. RICE - COURT An Arkansas court has ruled that Bayer CropScience intentionally contaminated US rice supplies with its unapproved GM rice. The court ordered the company to pay a farmer who suffered losses when his rice was contaminated with Bayer’s GM product, a total of US$1.3 million. http://gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/12041 Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFYI Wilson's Temperature Syndrome
I'm hypothyroid, and my temps taken at the doctor's office just four months ago were around 97.3 and that was during the day, not a waking temp. My temps rose after I started using a thyroid glandular product with iodine and adrenal support in it. I dropped thirteen pounds doing nothing in six weeks, and my temps rose to 97.2. Then finally my TSH was pretty high, and the doc prescribed a thyroid med(I insisted on armour). My temps have hovered around 96.2 during the day and that is throughout my entire life, and the doc only ever checked TSH and said everything was alright. A body temp of 96.2 on a summer day is not alright! I am so angry and disgusted with the medical profession it's not even funny. When someone shows up with those kind of low body temps consistently there is something not right, and they didn't bother to find out why. And of course I was a kid and didn't know any different. The internet is the best thing that ever happened to me, when I got my first computer I started to learn things that really opened my eyes to what they were doing and what they were all about.. To think I trusted those AMA quacks all my life, until that point and thought I was the reason I couldn't drop weight like every one else, and gained weight so easily it was scary. I fasted for two weeks one time when I was around 15 YO, and gained weight! I did not lose one pound in two weeks. The doctors kept telling me I was lying when I told them I really didn't eat much, which was true, if I had eaten like everyone else I would have been the size of a barn. They told me to exercise more and I was already doing an hour of PE at school(we were required to take an hour of PE until the tenth grade) and walking three miles a day on my own after school. And no, my Mom did not buy junk food, and we had a huge veggie garden.. It took me three or four times the amount of time it took everyone else to lose a pound using the same amount of effort. That made me feel like there was something inherently wrong with me as a person and that I deserved what I got. Needless to say, I had a miserable self image from all that rot. I wish I could sue the daylights out of them for the harm they did to me growing up. So yeah, the majority of them are quacks and they'll destroy you, body and soul, and finally kill you, if you listen to them and trust what they say. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Gina Moore wrote: A low body temp is a sign of hypothyroidism according to Broda Barnes , MD. It can be missed by the traditional TSH and T4 tests. (Read ‘Hypothyroidism Type II’ by Mark Starr, MD.) I’m on the fence with some of the Wilson ’s Syndrome things, but it works for some people – the idea is good, I’m just now sure about the treatment. I have low body temp and it only came up when I replace the hormones I was missing – T3 (Cytomel) being the primary one. In my research, I found that ADHD can be from low cortisol, which can eventually cause thyroid to go low (which would cause the low temp). I have an ADHD child, and had his diurnal cortisol checked and it was very low all day. I’m trying to get him off the meds and do more natural things, but it’s difficult. Takes time and patience, which I have neither! LOL! Some sites to consider… http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/long-and-pathetic/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/ Just my 2 cents from the year and a half of research on thyroid/adrenals I’ve done. No medical advice given! Gina * From: * Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:01 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSFYI Wilson's Temperature Syndrome PT, That's an interesting website. I'm not sure what to make of it though. My temperature has hovered around 97 degrees since I was a teenager. The only thing I've ever heard about that is that this is common with people who have ADHD, which I have. My 17 year old daughter has the same two issues. Steve G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFYI Wilson's Temperature Syndrome
You may have a problem converting T4 to T3 which is fairly common. I take Armour which is a prescription standardized med made from porcine thyroid glands. It has the full array of hormones is it. T4, T3, T2 and T1 and perhaps some calcitonin. I'd heard horror stories about synthroid and when my doc tried prescribing that to me I flat out refused it. I've been doing extremely well with Armour. I don't have the symptoms anymore, and I'm fine tuning the dosage. But I did have to switch to Erfa(Canadian Armour) recently because of the Armour, naturethroid/westhroid shortage.. No more fuzz brain, and achy muscles, joints, weakness, or alligator skin. But I also take an adrenal support supplement as well. My body temps have risen steadily. I also use a progesterone cream, I have an excess of estrogen. And of course I take Iodine too. Everything all natural no synthetics at all. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Annie, what product are you on? My temps barely reaches 97 during any day and I have a horrible weight problem. I'm on Synthroid. Edith I'm hypothyroid, and my temps taken at the doctor's office just four months ago were around 97.3 and that was during the day, not a waking temp. My temps rose after I started using a thyroid glandular product with iodine and adrenal support in it. I dropped thirteen pounds doing nothing in six weeks, and my temps rose to 97.2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFYI Wilson's Temperature Syndrome
If you meant the OTC glandular. I used a couple of different ones. Natural Sources Raw Thyroid, and Nutri Meds Thyroid, and Nutri Meds Whole Adrenal, and the Cortex Plus for any short term extra stressful events. Sometimes when you start taking thyroid meds it stresses the adrenals because they've been overworking because of the underworking thyroid gland, trying to take up the slack until they just plain get exhausted. It might be wise to use the adrenal support for a week or so before starting the thyroid supplement. And you may need to continue taking the adrenal support if you've had adrenal exhaustion for any extended length of time, or for any extra stressful life events, good or bad. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Annie, what product are you on? My temps barely reaches 97 during any day and I have a horrible weight problem. I'm on Synthroid. Edith I'm hypothyroid, and my temps taken at the doctor's office just four months ago were around 97.3 and that was during the day, not a waking temp. My temps rose after I started using a thyroid glandular product with iodine and adrenal support in it. I dropped thirteen pounds doing nothing in six weeks, and my temps rose to 97.2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGary Schwartz discusses the G.O.D. experiments on the Natural News Talk
Gary Schwartz discusses the G.O.D. experiments on the Natural News Talk http://www.naturalnews.com/028490_Gary_Schwartz_God.html This could be interesting. Not doing the religious talk thing, and not gonna discuss it, just a notice about an interesting show. Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
You can read about it here:) http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineindex.html Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Leslie wrote: Is Iodine good for breast cancer? My daughter has a lump in her breast and also is overweight so could be the thyroid. I have the iodine but was afraid to take it internally and just swab it on. Leslie - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on really, before I ever started taking the Iodine. Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up with the latest studies and news about all this stuff. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDietary Supplements to Support Promote Detoxification
Dietary Supplements to Support Promote Detoxification http://www.naturalproductsmarketplace.com/articles/2006/04/dietary-supplements-to-support-promote-detoxific.aspx Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on really, before I ever started taking the Iodine. Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up with the latest studies and news about all this stuff. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
If you don't take enough selenium with the Iodine it WILL cause you grief and CAN damage the thyroid. I've upped my dose to 50 mg per day of 2% Lugol's, I started with 5 mg and worked my way up slowly, and I take 400 - 600 mg of the selenomethionine form of Selenium daily. When I don't take the Iodine I feel like crap. My thyroid felt swollen on one side and I had a small nodule on my thyroid which is slowly shrinking. The doc did not do a thyroid antibody test but he did say I had elevated antibodies according to my lab results. When I first started taking the Iodine my thyroid swelled some, but it is now a normal size. I feel physically much better. Detox/herx symptoms can be a bear but if you take extra magnesium, vit C, selenium, zinc and copper, and manganese, and use sea salt and plenty of water this can be reduced greatly. That and backing off on the dose until you feel a bit better. If you have a lot of toxins to detox the detox pathways can be overcome and this causes the detox/herx symptoms, or a viral load die off, or candida/fungus die off. The minerals the shepherd the halides, mercury and other stuff out are the ones I've listed above. You don't have a chance to get too much of them because the get used up binding to toxins and carrying them out, usually through the urine. And the body needs some of them for regular maintenance and enzyme production. I also added milk thistle, and dandelion to my regime to support the liver, and R ALA to boost glutathione. It also helped that I found a pitcher that filters everything including 80 - 90 % of fluoride from my tap water. And cutting out MSG, aspartame, and breads made from brominated flours, as well as all soft drinks, and upping my pure water intake to nearly 90 0z per day. I also added vit D3, and sea salt to my regime quite a while back and cut out almost all the processed salt. Those with autoimmune hypothyroid issues MUST take the selenium, it's NOT an option, or it WILL cause problems, especially with antibodies. I get so tired of people not doing it the recommended way and then saying it's harmful. Or expecting it to work over night. Stephanie's(The Iodine list Mom) husband took at least a year to bring his Hashi's antibodies down to nothing. So it's a long term thing, and sometimes in the interim the thyroid usually WILL swell to grab more Iodine, when it has enough it will start to reduce in size. My thyroid kind of went up and down in size for two months or so before it settled down. But man oh man the detoxing I was doing during that time. I won't say that my thyroid swelling up even more, like that didn't scare me to death, it did, but I was also told that it would go back down again, and it did. But I guess everyone gets to health in their own way, there are many choices out there and a lot of research. I researched Iodine, the recommendations of nutrients to take with it and why, and the even the reports against it, thoroughly for several months before I made the decision to buy the Iodine and give it go. I haven't been sorry yet. Well except for an initial bad detox/herx reaction, LOL. I haven't lowered my thyroid med dose yet, I still have to get blood work done to see what my TSH, T4, T3 levels are doing. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: How high was your dosage, and for how long did you take it? Alan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Having been hypothryoid and having done this, I would *highly* that folks with that condition look into the high iodine dosing. I am no longer hypothyroid and it cleared up a lot of other issues for me. Another case of varying mileage. Craig needling around wrote: Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFor the list members that live across the pond
London rail project faces centuries old anthrax threat http://www.bioprepwatch.com/news/212508-london-rail-project-faces-centuries-old-anthrax-threat This is an idiotic thing to do. Anthrax spores can live for centuries, and I trust no reports about safety when it comes to companies and money. Just be aware please, if you live in the area, or know someone who does. I'm concerned for the people who live close to this project. Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSKid does an experiment with CS and wins sxience fair award
This is a PDF file and a download window will pop up when you click on the link, you need a PDF reader to view the article. :) The experiment and results are very interesting. :) http://www.wateroz.com/resources/rediscovering-silver-article.pdf Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIndium?
Has anyone on the list ever used Indium? Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother place to get the movies
I wouldn't even eat one McDonald's meal a day. Their meat is NOT meat, and their food and every other fast food joint's food is full of MSG, and yeah a whole lot of grease. Anyone who thinks eating fast food every day is healthy needs a reality check. I have seen and know people that eat fast food nearly every day of the week, whether it's breakfast, lunch, or dinner. The unhealthy kind of fat alone is enough to keep me away. There are kids that eat hamburgers and pizza every day in school. In my town that's exactly what they serve, yeah they offer the regular lunch too, but what kid is gonna choose veggies over a burger and fries, or pizza? And he didn't eat every meal supersized. He only got supersize if they asked him if he wanted it, which may have been 50% of the time. And he ate every item on the menu at least once. Did you actually watch the film? The rules were laid out at the beginning. And the lab results on his blood and such weren't faked. So three meals a day for 30 days or One meal a day for 90 days, still getting way more calories and fat than anyone needs at one sitting. Not to mention the HFCS in the sodas, and the brominated bread of the buns, and the high salt content. McDonald's even admits their chicken isn't chicken and their food is unhealthy. I avoid fast food like the plague. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Ode Coyote wrote: Super size me has a fatal flaw in the original premise. Eating 3 supersized meals a day *at home* would make you fat. No one in their right mind would ever eat that much food in a day. Just one of those is enough food for an entire day. The subject in the film had to force feed himself just to choke it all down. And the very idea that you NEED to eat 3 meals a day is ridiculous. If working heavy labor, maybe, but even then a full tummy can be very uncomfortable so a very light breakfast and lunch works best, then load on the calories after work. Ode At 04:06 PM 3/18/2010 -0500, you wrote: Hey y'all Snag Films has the Supersize Me, and The Future of Food documovies. Another way for the folks over the pond, and elsewhere, to get to see them:) http://www.snagfilms.com/films/browse/category/health/ Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother place to get the movies
Well if you watched the film, he set up rules for the experiment at the very beginning. He had to eat three meals a day, he had to eat every item on the menu, and he could only supersize the order if they asked him if he wanted to supersize it. He stuck by the rules for the experiment. Overall I think he did a great job of showing how unhealthy the stuff is. Even the doctors were surprised at the damage the stuff was doing to him, and he was a fairly healthy guy to begin with. If you're not healthy then I imagine the damage is much greater. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Annie B Smythe wrote: I wouldn't even eat one McDonald's meal a day. Their meat is NOT meat, and their food and every other fast food joint's food is full of MSG, and yeah a whole lot of grease. Anyone who thinks eating fast food every day is healthy needs a reality check. I was not addressing any of those points, only the factual lies in the movie SuperSize Me. Whether fast food is healthy is a whole other issue. http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/about/ sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother place to get the movies
Well the way I see it, if he ate less than he claimed, that only makes the food worse not better. And I don't listen to one person who makes a splash by trying to debunk. That's as bad as listening to one debunker about CS or anything else. So we will have to agree to respectfully disagree. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Annie B Smythe wrote: Well if you watched the film, he set up rules for the experiment at the very beginning. He had to eat three meals a day, he had to eat every item on the menu, and he could only supersize the order if they asked him if he wanted to supersize it. He stuck by the rules for the experiment. Overall I think he did a great job of showing how unhealthy the stuff is. Sinece he won't let anyone see his food original or copies of his original food logs who knows what he really ate? Certainly from what I see in Fathead his math does not add up. There is apparently no way he could have eaten only what he said he ate and consumed the number of calories he claims. So if that is true, he MUST be lying. At any rate he fudged his math, and it is hard to believe so many people just swallow it without at least checking his arithmetic. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnother place to get the movies
The point of the movie was to demonstrate how unhealthy the food is, and he did that, whether the calories match up according to whomever or not. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Annie B Smythe wrote: Well the way I see it, if he ate less than he claimed, that only makes the food worse not better. And I don't listen to one person who makes a splash by trying to debunk. That's as bad as listening to one debunker about CS or anything else. So we will have to agree to respectfully disagree. Not to carry this on forever, but I have my own standards for debunking. If someone points out a lie in something, that I can confirm with a few seconds on my calculator, I believe the debunker and not the liar. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSto PT
How do y'all get those? I deleted one experimentally, but did not get any message about receipts. I use Thunderbird, so maybe that has something to do with it. You may be able to set your mail program to individually send or not send receipts. Bethann Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Frank wrote: Hi list, I am having the same problem and is usually caused by the sender requesting (demanding) acknowledgment of receipt. This sender is the only one with such an annoying requirement and it has nothing to do with my computer. Of course one can always exclude this type of messages by shunting them to the disallowed list. Cheers Frank *From:* needling around mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:23 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSto PT Nenah, You would have to check the settings in your computer. I have nothing to do with that. I have written to the list owner to see if there is a setting he can use for the read receipt. This is the only list there seems to be a problem with. Thanks. PT - Original Message - *From:* Nenah Sylver mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:22 AM *Subject:* CSto PT PT, Whenever I delete your emails I get a message asking me if I’d like to send a receipt to you that lets you know I have deleted your email. I find this pop-up message rather annoying. Is there any way you can change your email settings so we don’t have to get this? Thanks. Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsoy lecithin
Naw Dee, I take 3 tablespoons a day, no problems:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: has anyone ever had a bad effect from this? thanksdee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSreceipts on FreX list
Err, what's the FreX list, please? Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: I think it is interesting that you don't get these on the FreX list. PT - Original Message - *From:* Renee mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:49 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT- CAN-C and Bright-eyes Yes, I could shut mine off, but as you say--there are certain emails I get than I DO need to acknowledge receipt for. So, guess I'll just say no from now on to your emails. :-) samala, Renee www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt http://www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body. The Am Wand helps you get rid of it quickly and easily. Get the wand here /---Original Message---/ It is not done 'by email', it is automatic and I need it for non-list emails. This is the only list that does not automatically remove it, but I believe you can set your computer to ignore it so you won't see it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAnother place to get the movies
Hey y'all Snag Films has the Supersize Me, and The Future of Food documovies. Another way for the folks over the pond, and elsewhere, to get to see them:) http://www.snagfilms.com/films/browse/category/health/ Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSreceipts on FreX list
Thank you Chuck:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Computer pgm utilizing RIFE frequencies for healing. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Frex/ Software and development announcements for Frex, a popular Resonance Initiated Field Effects (RIFE) program for generating health and wellness in people. Frex is a great educational tool for people to learn about frequency therapy. Chuck Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high. On 3/18/2010 4:47:18 PM, Annie B Smythe (anniebsmy...@gmail.com) wrote: Err, what's the FreX list, please? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSreceipts on FreX list
Mike is good that way:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Renee wrote: Right! But, I see that it's fixed now, because this message I had a receipt pop up, but the ones you wrote after this are fine. :-) Good work Mike! samala, Renee www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt http://www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body. The Am Wand helps you get rid of it quickly and easily. Get the wand here /---Original Message---/ I think it is interesting that you don't get these on the FreX list. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT- CAN-C and Bright-eyes
Steve would the MSM or DMSO have to be medical or
pharmaceutical grade? And what if you used MSM,
DMSO in a contact lens sterile saline solution? Is
the 99.9% stuff alright? And my MSM is kind of
crystalline rather than powdery. Is it possible to
get SOD to add to the mixture?
Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
Norton, Steve wrote:
Here are some options:
http://math.ucsd.edu/~ebender/Health%20%20Nutrition/Diseases/diseases.html
Reversal: of cataracts observed in small trials using 2-3 eye drops of well
shaken mixture (below) 3x day. (May be slight temporary burning from DMSO.) Takes
1-6 months (Alt 1/02 p.55). Do not use if you have an eye infection.
1/2 oz. 99.99% DMSO
1/2 oz. distilled water
http://www.altmedicenter.com/am/dmso.asp?pageID=dmso3.asp
An ophthalmologist has developed a formula for dissolving cataracts without
surgery. Combining DMSO with super oxide dismutase (SOD), this eye doctor's formulation
works against glaucoma too.
http://www.communicationagents.com/chris/2003/09/03/cataract_msm_eye_drop_solution.htm
When eye drops containing the proper amount of MSM are applied, the membrane
becomes permeable, and this has reversed the problem. It is also important that the
eye remain flexible so that the muscles can alter its contour and focus as needed.
In the event that its membranes and muscles become rigid and tough, the eye will not
be able to focus properly, resulting in blurred vision. The MSM in eye drops soothes
and softens the membranes, permitting fluids to pass through the optical tissues to
stabilize the pressure, repair any damage, clear up red spots and bloodshot vessels,
and remove floaters and other particles in the eye.
In one case, a 15 percent solution of MSM in isotonic saline was a soothing treatment for the eye following accidental injury due to particulate matter in the eye. In a test with an irritated eye of a rabbit, the eye cleared when treated every hour with a 10 percent aqueous solution of MSM. Be assured, the concentration in the MSM eye drops you get will be sufficient.
Here is how to make the cataract solution form MSM. Just remember to use
the pure powder. You can make the 15% solution by mixing 1.5 grams of MSM
in 10 ml of water (two teaspoons). Its best to make small batches for
freshness. Use 2 to 4 times daily.
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2004058289IA=WO2004058289DISPLAY=DESC
This patent recommends in one formulation combining MSM with EDTA.
- Steve N
From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT- CAN-C and Bright-eyes
Hey Folks;
Has anyone had experience using CAN-C or Bright-eyes for cataracts? Or other
modalities?
I've been dealing with a retina detachment [twice now] since Dec. and the gas bubble they inject causes a rapid increase in the cataract. I'd really like to skip the operation. TIA
larry tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA
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Re: CSFW: Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)
Thank you Bob:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Here is site Bob http://webeatprices.com/ -Original Message- From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFW: Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED) Wow Bob where did you get a distiller for 65.00? If you don't mind sharing? Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Just curious Bob, how many times do you run your distiller per day or per week? Mine broke in the 6th or 7th year. I should explain the still pot and fan in the top still worked fine, but the plastic spout began to disintegrate, and my husband repaired it several times, but finally it disintegrated to where there wasn't enough left to repair. I could have used it without the spout being there, but that would have exposed the hot newly distilled water to a lot of air contamination, and since I needed ultra pure DW for making CS, it didn't seem worth having it splashing around. We decided to use commercial distilled to get past the order and mailing crunch of Xmas, but it has worked so well I never did order another distiller. sol Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Lowest prices I have seen as low as $65 for distiller I bought one years ago and it still works great. Only thing I do not have as some newer models do is a blocker On intake for steam to keep boiling from splashing into Condenser. I avoid this by just putting 3 quarts water Instead of 4. Bob http://webeatprices.com/ blockedhttp://webeatprices.com/ Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
Re: CSCross Post on Cheap Ultrasonic Cleaners
That's very interesting, if it's just a frequency generator, would Rife frequencies work? Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Norton, Steve wrote: FYI. *From:* Norton, Steve *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2010 8:42 AM *To:* *Subject:* WARNING liposomal vitamin C Paul, Thanks for the warning and for the info on the construction of the cheap ultrasonic cleaner. I have a number of unused ultrasonic humidifiers and have considered removing and using the ultrasonic transducers for several other applications. It appears that they may indeed be suitable for use in ultrasonic cleaner applications easier than I thought if all you have to do is glue the transducer to the bottom of a metal pan. - Steve N *From:* [mailto: *On Behalf Of *Paul *Sent:* Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:23 PM *To:* *Subject:* WARNING liposomal vitamin C I bought a cheap Chinese ultrasonic bath to make liposomal vitamin C a few months ago. It worked quite well for that purpose, but I found that it wasn't sealed very well, and when pouring out the contents, some liquid could find its way inside the unit. I should have done something about this, but didn't. A few days ago my unit caught fire, probably due to this poor design, and if I had left it unattended, it could have been much more serious. I have since bought a more expensive ultrasonic bath which seems to work better, and is well sealed so that liquid can't get inside. Not just a case of buy cheap, get cheap, more buy cheap, burn your house down! I just thought I should pass this around in case anyone else has bought a cheap ultrasonic bath. It should be possible to seal around the metal bath part using a hot glue gun, or other sealant. Incidentally, when I took the gadget apart I found it is simply a frequency generator, an amplifier and an ultrasonic transducer glued to the bottom of the metal bath. Paul __._,_.___ ,___ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)
Wow Bob where did you get a distiller for 65.00? If you don't mind sharing? Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Just curious Bob, how many times do you run your distiller per day or per week? Mine broke in the 6th or 7th year. I should explain the still pot and fan in the top still worked fine, but the plastic spout began to disintegrate, and my husband repaired it several times, but finally it disintegrated to where there wasn't enough left to repair. I could have used it without the spout being there, but that would have exposed the hot newly distilled water to a lot of air contamination, and since I needed ultra pure DW for making CS, it didn't seem worth having it splashing around. We decided to use commercial distilled to get past the order and mailing crunch of Xmas, but it has worked so well I never did order another distiller. sol Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Lowest prices I have seen as low as $65 for distiller I bought one years ago and it still works great. Only thing I do not have as some newer models do is a blocker On intake for steam to keep boiling from splashing into Condenser. I avoid this by just putting 3 quarts water Instead of 4. Bob http://webeatprices.com/ blockedhttp://webeatprices.com/ Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Future of Food
I'm sorry, I forget all the time that we have members all over. I don't have an alternate link for those films. There are programs out there that will allow you to watch Hulu for other countries. I don't know the names but you can do an internet search and find them:) There are also programs you can find that let US folks get the UK shows played on the I Player:) Sigh, I guess I'm goinf to have to download the files and put them in a media share site for sharing at some point when I find one that will allow me to uploads more than a limited size in uploads. I didn't cheak youtube for those either. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: RE US and UK..having been in both worlds.. there are a lot of BBC links from the UK including ability to watch BBC shows online that don't work here. Hulu is one xample of the vice versa situation. Couldn't access it from UK IP. know why, must be some international agreement... crazy eh. Don't think it's about them keeping the film close... You may need to google it and check it out in the UK DVD rental. I found it on Netflix here... so we're gonna have to rent it as we can't view online in regular hours! smiles sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* Sandee George oha...@juno.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, March 15, 2010 8:14:11 AM *Subject:* Re: CSThe Future of Food Annie this link is only for those within the US not International so if you would mind cutting and pasting it or putting it into an Adobe reader file and send it to me I would appreciate it very much - I am sure it is very interesting which is why they want to keep it close smile Take good care and have a wonderful day Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCross Post on Cheap Ultrasonic Cleaners:COMMENT
Thank you Brooks:) I figured it would be more expensive to use Rife frequencies, but was just curious if it could be done, since frequencies are frequencies, well of different shapes and etc., but still frequencies all the same:) I got to thinking about it, and the curiosity was eating me alive, LOL. Bethann Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Annie, Rife Frequencies are the result of imposing (mixing) one frequency (usually somewhere between about 10 cycles per second to 20,000cps)upon a single carrier wave in the Megahertz range [some use around 11,000,000 cps and some use about 27,000,000generally) which results in a modulated output of a distinctive square wavewhich contains thousands of secondary frequencies occurring within each square wave envelope. The real problem is determining the genuinely effective resultant frequency which actually destroys the pathogen. That is, there is NO PRESENTLY EXISTING methodology for determining which specific frequencyEXACTLY--- (from among the thousands present in the plasma field---that is creating the resonance which destroys the pathogen.) The only thing one knows, for sure, is the INPUT FREQUENCY imposed on the carrier wave..not the actual KILLING frequency. This said, one could...if they possessed an acceptable Rife Generation System with an ADEQUATE power amplifier.and a precise/stable Frequency Generatoruse it to drive a piezoelectric (crystal) or even a well-filtered magnetic transducer. Ultrasound generators for US Cleaners generally employ frequencies between 20 KHZ (20,000 cps) and 40 KHZ. Both the wave shape (sinusoidal or square) and the power levelshave definite effects upon the efficiency of the cleaner.as does the type of transducer being used (piezoelectric or magnetic). Piezoelectric transducers (crystals) are more efficient at using square wavesthan are any of the wire-wound component assemblies presently used in many cheaper units. Most of the more acceptable units are driven by about 38 KHZ power signals. Many magnetic transducers become VERY inefficient at frequencies this highif only because of the powerful resistance (Inductive Reactance) to the rapidly changing voltages. I do not mean to pontificate, but sometimes we are lead to OBVIOUS conclusions which are not altogether reliable. That is why I have taken the time to elaborate, somewhat, on this aspect of the two technologies. Bottom Line: It is MARKEDLY less expensive to purchase an acceptable Ultrasonic Cleaner.than ANY form (Gas Plasma or Contact Plate) of Rife Generation system. (about $80.00 versus $1000. plus). Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *Re: CSCross Post on Cheap Ultrasonic Cleaners *Date : *Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:50:23 -0500 *From : *Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com *To : *silver-l...@eskimo.com That's very interesting, if it's just a frequency generator, would Rife frequencies work? Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Norton, Steve wrote: FYI. *From:* Norton, Steve *Sent:* Monday, March 15, 2010 8:42 AM *To:* *Subject:* WARNING liposomal vitamin C Paul, Thanks for the warning and for the info on the construction of the cheap ultrasonic cleaner. I have a number of unused ultrasonic humidifiers and have considered removing and using the ultrasonic transducers for several other applications. It appears that they may indeed be suitable for use in ultrasonic cleaner applications easier than I thought if all you have to do is glue the transducer to the bottom of a metal pan. - Steve N *From:* [mailto: *On Behalf Of *Paul *Sent:* Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:23 PM *To:* *Subject:* WARNING liposomal vitamin C I bought a cheap Chinese ultrasonic bath to make liposomal vitamin C a few months ago. It worked quite well for that purpose, but I found that it wasn't sealed very well, and when pouring out the contents, some liquid could find its way inside the unit. I should have done something about this, but didn't. A few days ago my unit caught fire, probably due to this poor design, and if I had left it unattended, it could have been much more serious. I have since bought a more expensive ultrasonic bath which seems to work better, and is well sealed so that liquid can't get inside. Not just a case of buy cheap, get cheap, more buy cheap, burn your house down! I just thought I should pass this around in case
CSFor our icuraably curious researchers:)
10 Search Engines to Explore the Deep End of the Invisible Web http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-search-engines-explore-deep-invisible-web/ I am insatiably curious. I research and read articles on everything from A - Z. Computer tech to Physics and everything in between. The deep web is an invaluable tool for research:) Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
l...@chuck :D Chuck your darned signatures keep me in stitches. :D Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I knew it, I knew it Chuck I no longer subscribe to reincarnation. The renewals were killing me! On 3/13/2010 2:45:03 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Oh for goodness sake--what is going on? Now I have increased mine and hubby's levels to 4000 units per day and this article says you can actually be worse! Has anyone (Brooks-help!) *anything* that can dispute this, because I am rapidly coming back to the opinion that I should stop ALL supplements. And I've just sent off for the ultrasonic cleaner too! Damn! dee On 12 Mar 2010, at 23:08, Pat wrote: I am 60. I get over 2,000 units vitamin D a day in pill form. I'm in the western part of South Carolina, USA at Latitude: 34.8525. Two years ago, I hadn't heard about vitamin D deficiency, but luckily my doctor made me get the 25- hydroxy vitamin D blood test and a vitamin B-12 test. I was astounded when my vitamin D level was 14. So, the next summer it was 55, then last February it was 46. I'm not taking less than I was last year, but I've not been able to sit in the sun as much, I guess. I'm thinking about calling the doctor's office back and asking the nurse to make sure she read it right. She was stuttering around about the date, then she just said it's normal level. I said I need to know the number, so she came up with 25. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrain Fart Formation from Them-ion oxidized US-ions
That's the one that had me laughing til my sides hurt yesterday! :P: Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Kathryn Clayton wrote: I am sooo stealing this for a tagline... thanks, Chuck! kathryn On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:54 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Ever notice that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from earth? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
Oh that article would be good, thank you:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Hanneke wrote: I had been reading up on Vit D supplementing the other day, and now I wished I kept this one article. Will do a search. If I can find it again, will post the reference. It stated that safe levels for supplementing are: 1000 IU per 25 pounds of bodyweight. I take 6000 IU daily, if I don't forget. No need to panic now. There will be plenty of time to do that afterwards ;) At 06:15 AM 14/03/2010, you wrote: Oh for goodness sake--what is going on? Now I have increased mine and hubby's levels to 4000 units per day and this article says you can actually be worse! Has anyone (Brooks-help!) *anything* that can dispute this, because I am rapidly coming back to the opinion that I should stop ALL supplements. And I've just sent off for the ultrasonic cleaner too! Damn! dee On 12 Mar 2010, at 23:08, Pat wrote: I am 60. I get over 2,000 units vitamin D a day in pill form. I'm in the western part of South Carolina, USA at Latitude: 34.8525. Two years ago, I hadn't heard about vitamin D deficiency, but luckily my doctor made me get the 25-hydroxy vitamin D blood test and a vitamin B-12 test. I was astounded when my vitamin D level was 14. So, the next summer it was 55, then last February it was 46. I'm not taking less than I was last year, but I've not been able to sit in the sun as much, I guess. I'm thinking about calling the doctor's office back and asking the nurse to make sure she read it right. She was stuttering around about the date, then she just said it's normal level. I said I need to know the number, so she came up with 25. I don't know yet how much it cost for the test, but last time I think I paid about $47 for itbut it was discounted because of the Blue Cross/Blue Shield agreement, I'm sure. It's not cheap! I hesitate to take much more vitamin D, preferring to get it through the natural sun when I can. This article turns everything topsy-turvy and I don't know if I should believe it. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080125223302.htm Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information
Ode, LMAO, you're a character;) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Ode Coyote wrote: At 07:15 PM 3/13/2010 -0700, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: My blood sugar has been high all my scrawny life and I wasn't raised with any sweets at all. Every time it gets tested, the doc scratches his head and sends me out the door with instructions to fast for a day and come back. I come back and he scratches his head again, checks blood flow to my feet, calls it exceptionally great and sends me away without further comment. In 50 years NO ONE has ever bothered to tell me what the heck they see. [ I only assume it was unchanged after fasting and nothing like what they expected to see. ] From personal observation of energy levels, I don't start losing energy till about the 2nd day of not eating anything, nor have I ever felt a sugar rush Have you ever asked for the actual numbers? sol ## Always so glad to get out of there, never thought to nail the docs down till after I was gone. Thing is, the numbers had THEM puzzled and I'm not so interested in the numbers as why they're puzzled. Apparently, the numbers didn't mean anything to them and worked for me just fine, all my life. I'll try to remember the next time...in about another 20 years. [If I live that long..and not so sure I want to.] A death wish is a handy thing to have around...you eventually get what you want if you wait long enough. Meanwhile, take life as it is, have some fun with it...and keep that 12 gauge handy. I am not the body I occupy and what fun is a car you are afraid to drive for fear of scratching it? If it gets too beat up and wore outget another one! Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVitamin D
Ok so the whole letter is 18.9 kb, too big to cut and paste, as the end limit is 18 kb:) So here's the link:) The latest Vit D Council newsletter with some of the newest research results. Some info on Genes and D absorption, and body weight and dosage, and etc. http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/even-more-vitamin-d-studies-of-interest.shtml Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
You're welcome Dee, 2 or 3 tablespoons of Lecithin is not an extremely high dose Dee, I wouldn't worry about it. My Lecithin granules say take a tablespoon at a time, and I know people who take two or three tablespoons at a time. If you're not drinking the whole mixture you made at one time, it isn't going to harm you at all. I'm quite sure if there were any harm from it Brooks would have said something anyway. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks for this Annie. I am now really bothered about the LET vit C thing and lecithin. dee On 14 Mar 2010, at 17:24, Annie B Smythe wrote: Ok so the whole letter is 18.9 kb, too big to cut and paste, as the end limit is 18 kb:) So here's the link:) The latest Vit D Council newsletter with some of the newest research results. Some info on Genes and D absorption, and body weight and dosage, and etc. http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/even-more-vitamin-d-studies-of-interest.shtml Annie -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThe Future of Food
Movie found on Hulu: Full documantary movie on GMO http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878/the-future-of-food?c=News-and-Information Supersize Me is found there also:) Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
You're talking about oxidation and free radicals and that's why you take vitamin c. If that was the case then all the adipose tissue under the skin would go rancid. We take antioxidants to prevent that and the body makes its own antioxidants as well. Glutathione and other substances. Vitamin E is antioxidant, and etc. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: With that logic, wouldn't any oil (even from food) go rancid in the body after ingestion? -Ken Bagwell *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, March 12, 2010 10:15:54 AM *Subject:* Re: CSVitamin D I don't take Omega 3 because of the risk of it going rancid in the body after ingestion, if not before. My husband had a couple of ischaemic attacks when given this--on two occasions with gaps in between. I haven't given it to him since and he has been ok (touch wood) dee On 12 Mar 2010, at 17:25, Marshall Dudley wrote: although I found a number of products that combine these two I could not find any references that indicate that Omega 3s improve the absorption of D3 ( or is it the other way around? ). Does anyone have a site that talks about this? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information
No Ode, it's not fructose it's not ftuctose itself that's the culprit, rather HFCS. It changes from something good that's found in fruit to something else entirely when they process it. And it ends up conataining mercury a lot of the time. Bethann Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Ode Coyote wrote: So it's fructose that's the culprit..so..one shouldn't eat fruit or you'll get fat. ..or is it just plain too much sugar of all sorts? ..or something else that's unique to the individual and just not simple. My blood sugar has been high all my scrawny life and I wasn't raised with any sweets at all. Every time it gets tested, the doc scratches his head and sends me out the door with instructions to fast for a day and come back. I come back and he scratches his head again, checks blood flow to my feet, calls it exceptionally great and sends me away without further comment. In 50 years NO ONE has ever bothered to tell me what the heck they see. [ I only assume it was unchanged after fasting and nothing like what they expected to see. ] From personal observation of energy levels, I don't start losing energy till about the 2nd day of not eating anything, nor have I ever felt a sugar rush Odd Ball? No surprise there. Ode At 11:01 AM 3/12/2010 -0500, you wrote: The question is does it contain corn syrup which is nearly 100% glucose and great energy food for the body when expending a lot of energy since glucose is what the body burns, or high fructose corn syrup which is nearly 100% fructose and is converted by the liver into fat which is stored, causing the body to produce more insulin because it expects at least some glucose with the sweet taste, and thus makes you hungry leading to obesity both ways. It is implicated in much of the obesity of Americans, or any culture where they drink lots of soft drinks. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: What's wrong with Glucose? [Can't live without it ] Skip a few Snickers and you'll be fine. Ode At 02:51 PM 3/11/2010 -0600, you wrote: I wouldn't touch gatorade. Have you checked the ingredients? Yes, you'd get potassium, but also lots of things you probably aren't wanting, including sugar/corn syrup.Sara gatorade. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
Yeah and tell that to all the grannies that cured out of sorts with a good dose of cod liver oil. It worked. Cod liver oil is full of Vit D, Vit A, EPA and DHA. I can remember my great grandmother talking about dosing her kids with it when they got out of sorts. My grandmother, her daughter, said it worked even though she hated the taste. You can over fo anything, but if you don't get any sun and you're not taking vit D or eating liver regularly, or something of that nature. You know you're not getting enough vit D. Vit D has been an overlooked vitamin for a very long time. Everyone has been hollering ANTIOXIDANTS! LOL. Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh slickpic...@cox.net wrote: By now there must be hundreds of articles and studies (and even more personal experiences) that draw the opposite conclusion from the article in Science Daily. Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote: = I wouldn't put too much stock in one article just yet. i'm already a bit suspicious of the claim though. This winter was the first time that me and my family have taken a high dose vitamin D supplement. My wife ALWAYS gets at least one cold per winter, and I usually get one or 2. My two little children also had colds last winter. Well, the only thing we've changed in our supplement routine was adding 5000 IU for us adults, 2000 iu for the older child, and 1000 iu for the baby. guess what...not one cold or flu at all this year. And that's with the H1N1 scare too. We took extra high dose for the first few days too to build up D levels. -Ken Bagwell -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
Swanson has several to choose from, but I bought the Twinlabs orange flavored last time for my granddaughter, and the regular unflavored for the adults, it had the highest EPA and DHA amounts per serving and the price is almost the same as Swanson's brand. And the A and D are from the fish oik, not stripped out of the oil and added back with synthetics, like a lot of companies do. The natural A and D are imnportant. It's the synthetics you run into problems with just about every time. :) They test their oil for impurities and so forth. And although I'm very satisfied with Swanson products, I don't like their Cod Liver Oil. But Swanson has the best price I can find on Twinlabs brand, I think they also carry Carlson's brand. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Leslie wrote: Annie, where do you buy a good cod liver oil? I have been reluctant recently of buying flax seed oil or others because I read where it is very bad to take old oils. Thank you, Leslie - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin D Yeah and tell that to all the grannies that cured out of sorts with a good dose of cod liver oil. It worked. Cod liver oil is full of Vit D, Vit A, EPA and DHA. I can remember my great grandmother talking about dosing her kids with it when they got out of sorts. My grandmother, her daughter, said it worked even though she hated the taste. You can over fo anything, but if you don't get any sun and you're not taking vit D or eating liver regularly, or something of that nature. You know you're not getting enough vit D. Vit D has been an overlooked vitamin for a very long time. Everyone has been hollering ANTIOXIDANTS! LOL. Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh slickpic...@cox.net wrote: By now there must be hundreds of articles and studies (and even more personal experiences) that draw the opposite conclusion from the article in Science Daily. Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote: = I wouldn't put too much stock in one article just yet. i'm already a bit suspicious of the claim though. This winter was the first time that me and my family have taken a high dose vitamin D supplement. My wife ALWAYS gets at least one cold per winter, and I usually get one or 2. My two little children also had colds last winter. Well, the only thing we've changed in our supplement routine was adding 5000 IU for us adults, 2000 iu for the older child, and 1000 iu for the baby. guess what...not one cold or flu at all this year. And that's with the H1N1 scare too. We took extra high dose for the first few days too to build up D levels. -Ken Bagwell -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
Twinlabs uses the A and D from the fish oil:) Not synthetic. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: Most cod liver oils have their natural vitamins A/D stripped and are replaced by synthetics. See the Weston A. Price web site for more info. www.westonaprice.org http://www.westonaprice.org On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net mailto:leslie1...@windstream.net wrote: Annie, where do you buy a good cod liver oil? I have been reluctant recently of buying flax seed oil or others because I read where it is very bad to take old oils. Thank you, Leslie -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
I guess that's alright if you can afford their godawful high prices. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Barbara wrote: That's true. The only one good company in US is Green Pastures. They have naturally processed, fermented cod liver oil, that has natural vitamin A/D still in it. http://www.greenpasture.org/retail/?t=products WAPF chapter leader for Tampa Bay in Florida went out there to the plant and spent a day or two with the owner and she is recommending their Blue Ice, fermented CLO. Barbara Most cod liver oils have their natural vitamins A/D stripped and are replaced by synthetics. See the Weston A. Price web site for more info. www.westonaprice.org http://www.westonaprice.org -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
Well that's not what the Twin Lab label says. So Weston can take a leap. I tend to look askance at ANYONE who makes pitches for very high priced products. They also recommend either Now or Natural sources if I remember correctly, as a Good source, and I see nothing on the label to reassure me on either of those products. Carlson's is fairly high priced also. Twin Labs label says they get their Vit A and D from the fish oil. Hard to see how that can be synthetic. I don't trust any one source for info. I read something and then do my own research. Anyway if you look at your list you'll see Twin Labs at the bottom on the Good list:) So either their information is wrong, or their list is wrong. Either way it is inaccurate, so as far as I'm concerned it's a questionable source of information. If they mess up on something that simple how much have they messed up the accuracy of their information? Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: Weston A. Price claims Twin Labs uses synthetic: http://www.westonaprice.org/Cod-Liver-Oil-Basics-and-Recommendations.html#brands http://www.westonaprice.org/Cod-Liver-Oil-Basics-and-Recommendations.html#brands As of Spring, 2009, we recommend the following brands of cod liver oil. Sources of high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil and high-vitamin cod liver oil with natural vitamins added are in the BEST category; sources of processed cod liver oil with synthetic vitamins in the right proportions are in the GOOD category. We do not recommend brands of cod liver oil that have only low levels of vitamins A and D. In the United States *BEST (Available Online/Mail Order):* * Green Pasture Products: Blue Ice High-Vitamin Fermented Cod Liver Oil, (402) 858-4818, greenpasture.org http://greenpasture.org/ * Dr. Ron's Ultra-Pure: Blue Ice High-Vitamin Fermented Cod Liver Oil, (877) 472-8701, drrons.com http://drrons.com/ * Radiant Life: Blue Ice High-Vitamin Fermented Cod Liver Oil and Premier High-Vitamin Cod Liver Oil, (888) 593-8333, 4radiantlife.com http://www.4radiantlife.com/ * Azure Standard: Blue Ice High-Vitamin Fermented Cod Liver Oil, (541) 467-2230, azurestandard.com http://www.azurestandard.com/ * Natural Health Advocates: Blue Ice High-Vitamin Fermented Cod Liver Oil, 888-257-8775, building-health.com/ http://www.building-health.com/ * See our list of local chapter leaders who sell fermented cod liver oil http://www.westonaprice.org/Fermented-Cod-Liver-Oil-Available-from-Chapter-Leaders-and-Members.html. *GOOD (and available in Stores):* * Carlson's soft gel Cod Liver Oil 1,000 mg capsules * NOW double strength Cod Liver Oil capsules * Sonne's Cod Liver Oil * Twin Labs Cod Liver Oil On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: Twinlabs uses the A and D from the fish oil:) Not synthetic. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: Most cod liver oils have their natural vitamins A/D stripped and are replaced by synthetics. See the Weston A. Price web site for more info. www.westonaprice.org http://www.westonaprice.org http://www.westonaprice.org On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net mailto:leslie1...@windstream.net mailto:leslie1...@windstream.net mailto:leslie1...@windstream.net wrote: Annie, where do you buy a good cod liver oil? I have been reluctant recently of buying flax seed oil or others because I read where it is very bad to take old oils. Thank you, Leslie -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Alan Jones
Re: CSVitamin D, Vitamin A, and Cancer
We was it natural vit A, or synthetic. That's the question. People have been using Cod Liver oil for centuries, and liver is chock full of the stuff. Vit A is required by the body for eyesight and the synthesis of T3 from the T4 thyroid hormone. I'be never heard of a case of toxicity from eating liver or natural A from Cod liver oil, but I have for synthetic Vit A. I also read a paper somewhere refuting the painting of natural vit A with the same brush as synthetic vit A. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Pat wrote: This Vitamin D Council newsletter was interesting, concerning vitamin A and cod liver oil. http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-vitamin-a-and-cancer.shtml I'll try to copy and paste, but it might be too long. The Vitamin D NewsletterFebruary 2010 Vitamin D, Vitamin A, and Cancer A Remarkable Paper A few weeks ago, the British Medical Journal published a remarkable paper, remarkable that it studied more than 500,000 subjects, remarkable that it had 56 (fifty-six) authors, remarkable that it confirmed low vitamin D levels obtained in the past are a risk factor for developing colon cancer in the future. However, the most remarkable part of the paper is that the 46 scientists minimized the true significance of their own research. They found that vitamin A, even in relatively low amounts, appears to thwart vitamin D's association with reduced rates of colon cancer. Jenab M, et al. Association between pre-diagnostic circulating vitamin D concentration and risk of colorectal cancer in European populations:a nested case-control study. BMJ 2010;340:b5500. This is a prospective nested case-controlled study, which means it uses subject's vitamin D blood samples obtained and frozen in the past and then reviews their medical records into the future to see who gets colon cancer, comparing the study subjects to similar members of the group that did not get the illness. Dr. Mazda Jenab and his 45 colleagues from the International Agency for Research on Cancer confirmed that low vitamin D levels are a risk for colon cancer in a dose response manner; those with the highest levels were about twice as less likely to develop colon cancer compared to those with the lowest levels. Vitamin A and the U-shaped Curve However, hidden on page eight is one sentence and a small table, which shows that the benefits of vitamin D are almost entirely negated in those with the highest vitamin A intake. And the retinol intake did not have to be that high in these older adults to begin to negate vitamin D's effects, about 3,000 IU/day. Remember, young autistic children often take 3,500 IU of retinol a day in their powdered multivitamins, which doesn't count any additional vitamin A given in high, single doses. Pancreatic Cancer This is the largest study to date showing vitamin A blocks vitamin D's effect and explains some of the anomalies in other papers on vitamin D and cancer. For example, Dr. Rachael Stolzenberg-Solomon of the NIH conducted two similar studies on pancreatic cancer, with startling different results. Her first paper showed high vitamin D levels tripled the subsequent risk of pancreatic cancer, her second paper showed no effect. The difference, the first was conducted in a cod liver oil country, Finland, the second in the United States. Stolzenberg-Solomon RZ, et al. A prospective nested case-control study of vitamin D status and pancreatic cancer risk in male smokers. Cancer Res. 2006 Oct 15;66(20):10213–9. Stolzenberg-Solomon RZ, et al. Serum vitamin D and risk of pancreatic cancer in the prostate, lung, colorectal, and ovarian screening trial. Cancer Res. 2009 Feb 15;69(4):1439–47. Prostate Cancer Prostate cancer is another good example. Ten similar studies have been conducted on vitamin D blood levels and the risk of subsequent prostate cancer. Dr. Lu Yin of the German Cancer Research Center reviewed them in detail. Eight of the studies found no relationship but two studies found a U shaped curve, that is, an increased risk of prostate cancer at both lower and higher vitamin D levels. You guessed it; both of these studies were from Nordic countries where cod liver oil consumption is rampant. Yin L, Raum E, Haug U, Arndt V, Brenner H. Meta-analysis of longitudinal studies: Serum vitamin D and prostate cancer risk. Cancer Epidemiol. 2009 Dec;33(6):435–45. So why is there no relationship between vitamin D levels and the future risk of prostate cancer? All the subjects had their vitamin D levels checked in the late 1980s or 1990s, well into the sun-scare but before the vitamin D revolution. So how did these older people get high levels of vitamin D back then? Multivitamins? No, they only contained a meaningless 400 IU. Vitamin D supplements? No, they were not widely available back then and only contained a meaningless 200 to 400 IU of vitamin D if available. Sunshine? Maybe, but I doubt it. Studies have
CSVitamin D and Calcium Interplay Explored
I thought this article was fortuitous:) Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Vitamin D and Calcium Interplay Explored ARS News Service Agricultural Research Service, USDA March 12, 2010 --View this report online, plus photos and related stories, at www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr --Follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/ARSInformation ___ Increasing calcium intake is a common--yet not always successful--strategy for reducing bone fractures. But a study supported in part by the Agricultural Research Service (ARS) underscores the importance of vitamin D and its ability to help the body utilize calcium. The study also may explain why increasing calcium alone isn’t always successful in dealing with this problem. Currently, calcium intake recommendations are not tied to vitamin D status, which may explain why markedly different recommended calcium intakes exist among countries. In the United States, the recommended calcium intake is 1,200 milligrams (mg) daily for adults aged 50 and older. The body's skeleton needs adequate dietary calcium to reach its full potential in terms of bone mass. Still, many other factors affect bone mass, such as exercise, smoking and vitamin D--the latter through its effect on calcium absorption and direct effect on the skeleton. The study involved a close look at about 10,000 men and women aged 20 and older participating in a nationally representative survey. Coauthors included nutrition specialist Bess Dawson Hughes with the Jean Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging (HNRCA) at Tufts University in Boston, Mass. Dawson Hughes is director of the HNRCA Bone Laboratory. Blood levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D are used as the primary indicator of vitamin D adequacy. Within the study sample of U.S. adults, a large fraction of younger and older adults were below a suggested desirable serum vitamin D concentration of at least 75 nanomoles-per-liter (nmol/L). The study supports the idea that correcting inadequate blood levels of vitamin D is more important than increasing dietary calcium intake beyond 566 mg a day among women and 626 mg a day among men for better bone mineral density. For example, a higher calcium intake beyond 566 mg a day may only be important among women whose vitamin D concentrations are low (less than 50 nmol/L), according to authors. Details of this study can be found in the publication Journal of Bone and Mineral Research. ARS is the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) principal intramural scientific research agency. The research supports the USDA priority of improving nutrition and health. ___ This is one of the news reports that ARS Information distributes to subscribers on weekdays. * To unsubscribe, send a blank email to leave-172658-2628.8e065119c74efe3a47aec8796964c...@ls.ars.usda.gov. * Other ARS news products are available by e-mail. For details about them or to subscribe, please contact the ARS News Service or visit http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/lists.htm. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVit D and insulin sensitivity
I've been following Vit D research weekly, with great interest. The last article about insuling sensitivity is mind boggling, and something new I hadn't heard about before. http://www.naturalnews.com/028357_vitamin_D_deficiency.html http://www.naturalnews.com/028356_bowel_cancer_vitamin_D.html Vitamin D improves insulin sensitivity http://www.naturalnews.com/028355_vitamin_D_insulin_sensitivity.html Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
I take 10,000 IU a day with my Omega 3s, for better absorption, until my next D level check:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh slickpic...@cox.net wrote: ...so you need to take sublingual ones or a spray like Mercola does. I have only taken Life Extension's capsules (also favored by prostate cancer doc Snuffy Myers) and my last OH-D was 75. Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: = Not to be rude, but how old are you Pat? I ask because on the D3 council site, they recommend at least 2000 units for anyone over 60. Also you have to be careful what type of pill you take. Some of them are virtually destroyed by stomach acid so you need to take sublingual ones or a spray like Mercola does. dee On 12 Mar 2010, at 03:50, Pat wrote: I was disappointed today to find out that my 25-hydroxy vitamin D test showed my vitamin D level to be only 25. I was so sure it would be high that I almost didn't request one. Since last fall I've been taking at least 1,000 units D3 plus the D3 in my multivitamin and calcium pills. When the day is warm enough, I go out with a jacket and shorts to get some sun. It's been a very cold winter for here, though. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information
It also causes diabetes according to the latest research. Bethann Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Marshall Dudley wrote: The question is does it contain corn syrup which is nearly 100% glucose and great energy food for the body when expending a lot of energy since glucose is what the body burns, or high fructose corn syrup which is nearly 100% fructose and is converted by the liver into fat which is stored, causing the body to produce more insulin because it expects at least some glucose with the sweet taste, and thus makes you hungry leading to obesity both ways. It is implicated in much of the obesity of Americans, or any culture where they drink lots of soft drinks. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: What's wrong with Glucose? [Can't live without it ] Skip a few Snickers and you'll be fine. Ode At 02:51 PM 3/11/2010 -0600, you wrote: I wouldn't touch gatorade. Have you checked the ingredients? Yes, you'd get potassium, but also lots of things you probably aren't wanting, including sugar/corn syrup.Sara gatorade. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
Vitamin D3 is a fat soluble vitamin and I can't remember where I read it, but it said if you take a dry form you need to take it with a fat source to get good absorption. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Nenah Sylver wrote: [Marshall] although I found a number of products that combine these two I could not find any references that indicate that Omega 3s improve the absorption of D3 ( or is it the other way around? ). Does anyone have a site that talks about this? === Marshall , Vitamin K helps Vitamin D absorption. Vitamins A and D are in symbiotic relationship to each other—the more D you take, the more the body can tolerate A. And I believe that iodine and calcium are also synergistic with Vitamin D, though you’d have to do some research on this. Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
Any fat source will work. Maybe a half teaspoon of olive oil or something, or yeah natural butter:) Or take it with your bacon in the morning, or a cup of raw milk that hasn't been defatted . Bethann Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Marshall Dudley wrote: Now that is true. I take the gelcaps that are full of oil though. And a fat source can be butter, olive oil, flax oil, fried food or whatever. I thought this was specific ot the Omega 3 fatty acids. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information
I use potassium bicarbonate. I don't get enough fresh fruit and veggies, well raw that is. I like the alkalizing effect of the potassium bicarbonate. Kills two birds with one stone. And I hesitate to believe there's any more potassium in fruits and veggies than there are minerals and vitamins with the depleted soils. And everyone can't afford organic, It's pricey. That's one reason I want to grow my own this year:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotassium Bicarbonate Source?
Beyond A Century has it, and I think it was Steve that found it even cheaper on a wine making site, or similar:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh linda...@att.net wrote: Hi Annie (or anyone else who knows), Here's the question- Where do you get your Potassium Bicarbonate? Thanks in advance :-). An interesting addendum to the Potassium discussion- when I was younger (~30 years ago or so), I could not take Potassium. The 3 or so times I tried, it made me very sick and nauseous. I had thought it would be a good thing, but at that time I guess it wasn't. From what I know now, I probably was not able to find the right form in which to ingest it, as at the time, some things were hard to find. Anyone who took vitamins at that time was still labelled a health food freak. Ha. Nowadays, Potassium is one of the things which helps me most, along with Magnesium. I'm still looking for the rest of whatever will help, but Potassium was instrumental in stopping my feet (Left foot, the two outside small toes) from burning so badly it kept me awake at night and often made it hard to walk. I figured it out from taking Emergen-C (One of the versions of it used to have higher Potassium than the others). It stopped that burning, and was the only thing that did. Stay well, Linda -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliposomal Vit C
No it doesn't. Brooks said we could get around 70% Lip C making it at home, and I'd use the ratio he recommended since we don't have commercial machines. I trust Brooks a lot and he's been DOING the research for more years than I've been alive probably. Anything he says weighs heavily in knowledge base because he's done the actual grunt work in research and actually seen the results. And I know Steve does his reading and has done some experimenting, and so does Marshall and some others. Ode is a mine of info on some things; We have some very knowledgeable members here that have been around quite a while and they keep up with new research and info. I'd trust them too. In fact this is the first place I usually come with a question about something for which I have no knowledge. And a lot of times they can point me to solid info in a confusion of contradictory sources. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Ole Alstrup wrote: The ratio of phospholipid and vitamin C in the commercial Livon Labs product is 1:1. There is also 12% alcohol, I dont know if this is strictly as a preservative or if it plays a role in the liposomal effect. *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, 10 March, 2010 15:42:15 *Subject:* CSliposomal Vit C Well folks, I have just attempted the first version of this. I used three tblspns. of lecithin in one cup of warm DW plus one level teaspoon sodium ascorbate in half a cup of cold DW. I blended it in my Magimix which was not so successful, as it all came up and out of the top, so I had to tip quite a bit off! The result is a sort of creamy liquid with a bit of foam at the top which tastes not bad. I have put it in the fridge in a jar with a lid. What am I now expecting, and does this sound right or not? Thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliposomal Vit C
Go back to Bradley's Lip C recipe post Dee, where he gives instructions. He knows what he's talking about, he's not just guessing. This is the recipe he/they used in their research. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: So would that mean that I have to have the same amount of lecithin as Vit C? dee On 10 Mar 2010, at 14:48, Ole Alstrup wrote: The ratio of phospholipid and vitamin C in the commercial Livon Labs product is 1:1. There is also 12% alcohol, I dont know if this is strictly as a preservative or if it plays a role in the liposomal effect. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, 10 March, 2010 15:42:15 Subject: CSliposomal Vit C Well folks, I have just attempted the first version of this. I used three tblspns. of lecithin in one cup of warm DW plus one level teaspoon sodium ascorbate in half a cup of cold DW. I blended it in my Magimix which was not so successful, as it all came up and out of the top, so I had to tip quite a bit off! The result is a sort of creamy liquid with a bit of foam at the top which tastes not bad. I have put it in the fridge in a jar with a lid. What am I now expecting, and does this sound right or not? Thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliposomal Vit C
Heh, you said GI adventures. *snicker* Yeah, I knwww I have a juvenile sense of humor, so shoot me, LOL ; Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Saralou Pedigo wrote: Dee, According to Mr. Bradley, you're only going to get about 20% encapsulation when using a blender or mixer of any sort rather than the ultrasonic bombardment. Not sure why you'd bother. I suppose some is better than none. IF the percentage of encapsulation was that low, would not the finished product separate? I only mix mine a minute or so, and there is very little foam and no separation even after a week in the refrigerator. I use room temp distilled water. My body's reaction to taking up to 4.5 C grams worth of my mix says it must be well encapsulated, as sodium ascorbate by itself in FAR lower doses gives me severe GI adventures. My liposomal C doesn't speed up GI transit time at all. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliposomal Vit C
There's one post where he talks about the reaction, and foaming. I don't recall right off the bat everything it said, but if you check the archives It should be there:) If it's mixing and not separating you should be fine, although your actual Lip C may not be as high a percentage. If you can take it without gastric adventures then you're probably absorbing it one way or the other.:) The way the Lip C manufacturers are doing the encapsulation is mechanical, but at a much higher PSI. Even if it's just emulsified and buffered and not a very high percentage of Lip C, if you're actually absorbing it, it's all good:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Well, I have done it just as he said, but in a Magimix. I did get a bit of foam--which then dispersed. The liquid has remained like a creamy (slightly orange) milk and has not separated. Is this right do you think? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSliposomal Vit C
Distilled Water:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Steve G wrote: Now I have to go through the archives and find out what DW means. --- On *Wed, 3/10/10, Dorothy Fitzpatrick /d...@deetroy.org/* wrote: From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Subject: CSliposomal Vit C To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 9:42 AM Well folks, I have just attempted the first version of this. I used three tblspns. of lecithin in one cup of warm DW plus one level teaspoon sodium ascorbate in half a cup of cold DW. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO
What gets me is the nay saying about DMSO and not a word about the hundreds of toxic chemicals we're exposed to very day of the year that end up in out bodies without our consent. They're far more dangerous than DMSO could ever be. It's straining at fleas and swallowing camels. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Sandy wrote: As to veterinary grade DMSO I hardly think horse owners would use an impure product on their million dollar race horses and I think I'm worth at least that much so have no fears using it. :) When one takes into consideration DMSO is used for preserving frozen human embryos and frozen transplant organs the boogeyman scare tactics about it's dangers to the human body fall somewhat flat. Dr. Stanley Jocobs who has done extensive research on DMSO and it's many benefits has found it does no damage to any human systems. He in fact takes DMSO as a preventative measure everyday and has done so for many years without any damage. There is no doubt that before one uses DMSO they should research and find out the proper ways to use it and should use a reliable authority [Dr Stanley Jacobs] to gain their knowledge from. DMSO is to be respected but so should CS, Vitamins and certainly any chemical drugs and foods etc. one puts in or on one's body. I personally pay very little attention to what the naysayers have to say about DMSO. Sandy --- On *Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve /stephen.nor...@ngc.com/* wrote: From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com Subject: RE: CSDMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:14 AM Christopher Scipio's objections seem to fall into the following arguments: * Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use with humans * Industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure is impure and unsafe to use * There are no studies showing DMSO is effective against herpes * It is dangerous because the solvent properties of DMSO allows contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. *On exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides. Personally, I find nothing alarming in his arguments. Yes, you need to take care when using DMSO to not contaminate the DMSO or the skin where the DMSO is applied. Ok, so be careful. I found nothing online regarding the formation of very high and toxic level of peroxides. Actually, I often combine DMSO with hydrogen peroxide so I guess that would not bother me. Seems alarmist to me but each to his own. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org /mc/compose?to=...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSmartStax Corn: Corporate War on Bees
This email I'm posting is a response to whomever it was that said that there was no harm to bees and other beneficial insects from GMO crops. There is wealth of information at the ISIS website about GMO crops. This is an excerpt from the report. To read the rest of the report go to the links provided in the article. Annie - Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh *** The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk This article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/SmartStaxCornCorporateWarOnBees.php ISIS Report 08/03/10 SmartStax Corn: Corporate War on Bees US regulatory agencies are aiding and abetting in killing bees and more Prof. Joe Cummins SmartStax corn Smartstax is a genetically modified (GM) corn that has eight GM traits combined or ‘stacked’ together, six for insect resistance (Bt) and two for herbicide tolerance. Current stacked GM trait crops on the market only have up to three traits each. SmartStax was created through a collaboration between Monsanto and Dow AgroSciences, allowing the two corporations to share GM traits. The traits are combined together using crosses between existing transgenic corn lines rather than using genetic transformation of a single maize strain. Interestingly, a collection of old transgenes brought together with traditional crosses are being described as the ‘new’ technology. Monsanto and Dow are predicting that SmartStax will be the largest commercial launch of a single GM corn because it will replace a lot of the existing GM corn varieties on the market. The main benefit of Smartstax maize is that it provides above and below ground insect protection along with tolerance to two herbicides (glyphosate and glufosinate) [1]. Herbicide tolerance and insect resistance genes are engineered in redundant combinations in the belief that it will prevent establishment of resistances to herbicides and the Bt proteins among weeds and insect pests respectively [2]. The USDA provided a premium reduction in the cost of crop insurance for farmers growing Smartstax maize while the US EPA granted a reduction in the size of the refuge area set aside from 20 percent to 5 percent, which constitutes substantial government financial incentives for growing Smartstax maize [3]. It is supposed to protect growers of Smartstax maize from the uncertainties of climatic instabilities associated with global warming. The USDA crop insurance program covers organic farmers too, but fails to protect the organic premium on price and will not consider the crop loss from pollen contamination from GM crops. Organic and conventional growers are placed at a clear disadvantage in comparison to growers of Smartstax corn. Read the rest of this report here http://www.i-sis.org.uk/SmartStaxCornCorporateWarOnBees.php Or read other articles about GM corn http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GE-agriculture.php Or read other articles about disappearing bees http://www.i-sis.org.uk/disappearingBees.php This article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/SmartStaxCornCorporateWarOnBees.php All new articles are also announced on our RSS feed http://www.i-sis.org.uk/feed.xml ISIS is an independent, not-for-profit organisation dedicated to providing critical public information on cutting edge science, and to promoting social accountability and ecological sustainability in science. If you would like to be removed from our mailing list unsubscribe at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/unsubscribe or email unsubscr...@i-sis.org.uk -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSScientists find why sunshine vitamin D is crucial
Very Interesting Steve :) Thank you. That might explain why with proper levels of vitamin D cancers don't develop. Another tick on the cancer is an immune system problem side. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Norton, Steve wrote: http://www.discoveryon.info/2010/03/vitamin-d.html The researchers found that immune systems' killer cells, known as T cells, rely on vitamin D to become active and remain dormant and unaware of the possibility of threat from an infection or pathogen if vitamin D is lacking in the blood. When a T cell is exposed to a foreign pathogen, it extends a signaling device or 'antenna' known as a vitamin D receptor, with which it searches for vitamin D, said Carsten Geisler of Copenhagen University's department of international health, immunology and microbiology, who led the study. This means the T cell must have vitamin D or activation of the cell will cease. If the T cells cannot find enough vitamin D in the blood, they won't even begin to mobilize. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLugols
I use 2% that I get from Swanson, because I'm too lazy to look up the ingredients, buy them, and make my own right now. It's the cheapest I can find right now at 10.00 and change for a 2 oz bottle. But you CAN get the stuff and make your own:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've never used Lugols or any kind of iodine. I can find it in 1%, 3% or 7% strngths. Which is the best to go for. Many thanks Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOrmus
I am extremely curious about this Ormus material. Have any of you guys experimented with M-state, orme, ormus silver? Or is it just a colossal hoax? Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
Yeah but most of them don't have the potential of contaminating and screwing up every food crop on earth. Of causing a planet wide decimation of heritage crops. They're so sure they know and they've made claims in arrogance, and with no knowledge of long term effects. And they've tried to suppress any study that shows ill health effects from their tampering. Take round up ready GMO crops. The plants have actually become more resistant , and the resistance has spread to other weeds. They've opened up Pandora's box and they're not going to be able to contain it. It is the height of arrogance to introduce genetic material that they KNEW would spread and contaminate other plants. There is no way to control the spread of it. And maybe that's what they want, for their genes to end up in everything so they can claim they own it. And then charge everyone money for having their genes in everything from garden roses to backyard gardens. They don't care if they should do what they're doing, they did it because they could. The guys at the top aren't scientists either, they're not interested in how or why it works or doesn't. They're CEOs that are only interested in profiting from the science, not what ill effects might result from their tampering. This is the same company that says BPA is safe. And I suppose the broken eggs idea is a real comfort to all those Indian farmers who trusted Moronsanto about GMO cotton and committed suicide because they went broke because of crop failures and having to buy seed every growing season, farmers in poorer countries can't AFFORD to buy seed every growing season and the specific expensive chemicals required for use on them. The crop yields were miserable, much much less than Moronsanto promised in their glowing sales pitches. Moronsanto has proven to be a liar in the past, and I don't trust anything that comes from them. They poison people and the environment with their chemicals and they could care less as long as they rake in the bucks. If their lips are moving they're lying. I'm glad that a seed bank was created to preserve heritage seeds. Because I think at some point we're going to need it. It's the height of stupidity to use and endanger the world's food supply to test new unproven technology. I liken it to them creating a new virus and then indiscriminately spreading it in the population at large. It's dangerous and reckless to proceed in that manner. I am scientifically minded and have taken many science courses over the years, with the exception of chemistry. And you cannot convince me, no matter what you say or how you justify it, that they did not know that their crops would contaminate every field around them for hundreds of miles. Anyone who knows anything about plants and genes knows that pollen is spread far and wide by birds, insects, and even the wind. Pollens can be spread far and wide in the wind. We gett grit and dust in the US from Africa for heaven's sake. So it's not too far a stretch to realize that pollens can be carried for great distances. Birds fly great distances, and migrate. And bees can travel a bery long distance. Butterflies, and other insects flit from one filed to another with no concern about fences.They KNEW it would happen, and they deliberately contaminated other people's fields. There is a lot of skulduggery involved in the GMO seeds, and the USDA even owns patents as well from what I understand. So it's about money plain and simple. There needs to be a law enacted that anyone who takes a job at the FDA or the USDA cannot be hired if they worked for a company that creates a conflict of interest, or might benefit from the person taking a government position. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Richard Goodwin wrote: The beginnings of any new field of science are full of unknowns and mistakes. But over time, we learn, while trying to minimize mistakes. If we let our fears prevent us from ever exploring the unknown, then we would never have gone to the moon, or anywhere else. We wouldn't have any technology, or medicine, or colloidal silver. It is reasonable to stop moving in a wrong direction. It is not reasonbale to stop moving altogether. Dick *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 4, 2010 11:11:28 AM *Subject:* Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive This is the crux of the problem, the arrogance of these scientists. Yes, they THINK they know what the modification will do, but from what I've been reading, they're wrong. AS USUAL. Alan On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: I would agree that it would not be a good idea to genetically modify stuff blindly without having any idea what the modification will do. *But as far as I know, they DO
Re: CSGMO foods
Here's another: http://www.arkinstitute.com/ Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes. Some of them are engineered to be sterile, so you have to buy and buy.. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange and Aspartame. Do you want such people in charge of what you eat? Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted. Deadline for orders March 10 www.fedcoseeds.com http://www.fedcoseeds.com If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these are the people to buy from! No affiliations - wish there were! with love and hope sunny */A peek into our world/*.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All *Feed the Future-* *The blog* In depth articles *-* forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog /**/ /*Follow us on Twitter - **www.twitter.com/return2earth* http://www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep *Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life*/ /Tune in and friend us on *Facebook* http://www.facebook.com/return2earth- Pierre Soleil return to earth/ // *From:* Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, March 4, 2010 2:23:52 PM *Subject:* Re: CSGMO foods Steve, It's not GMO involvement, that kills, but Monsanto's pesticides... its on the plant, in the soil and IN the plant. Who owns ScienceDaily, anyway. Aldi On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com mailto:chube...@yahoo.com wrote: There are two main theories about the bee population problem. One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' ability to find their way home. Having some trouble finding a site for that. No evidence of GMO involvement. Steve --- On *Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net /djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net/* wrote: From: djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net djphe...@att.net mailto:djphe...@att.net Subject: CSGMO foods To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population? Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way. Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
It's not just mice, other animals and even insects have had major problems with GMO crops. Like bees and other beneficial insects. Go to GM Watch website and read the reams of research and studies that have been done. I've been reading about GMO crops for years and I believe they're dangerous to the entire food chain. Not to mention telling farmers when their crops are contaminated with that junk that they're infringing on patents. The companies that made that junk need to be sued for caontaminating other people's fields. I cannot for the life of me figure out how a judge can expect a farmer to control the GMO junk that gets blown into his fields. It's a miscarriage of justice and allowing companies to own genes and plants like that is dangerous to the food security of the entire world, nit just us. And allowing any company to control food supplies is obscene and a Dictatorship in the making. If you can control food and water you can control whole populations and countries. And it looks to me like that's exactly what these companies are doing and the US government and others are skipping down that garden path like a bunch of brainless robots. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh slickpic...@cox.net wrote: I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is that just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means a foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on humans. Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but very few of them have the same effect in humans. Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: = I can't detect any logic in that statement/question... Dick - Original Message From: slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do this to humans also. So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans? jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com wrote: = Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after. It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do this to humans also. This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia From: William Corley wcorl...@hughes.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM Subject: RE: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive You would do well to become better educated on GMO. Bill Corley www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk without having to talk the talk. -- Alan Cohen -Original Message- From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and vegetables. In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design. Big deal. --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com Subject: CSTake a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I think you all know that I am not a sp mmer. I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO. I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic farmers. We need to show them that we do indeed care! Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts! http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid= .120471.eeehU8source=taf Thanks! And please, please, forward this to everyone you know A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens -
CSDMSO and Iodine
Okay folks, I read about this somewhere last week, and tried it. It works great for me. Since I had my two children, over twenty tears ago, I get a case of hemorrhoids every so often. I know, I know, I'm working on getting the blood vessels strengthened so that won't happen. I've tried a lot of things, but Silica, Gelatin, and Serrapeptase, along with Turmeric, after some trial and error, seem to helping the most. I'm adding grape seed extract and pine bark to that, to see what happens. Anyway, I read somewhere that Lugol's and DMSO would do the trick. And by golly it does. It's the single most effective combo I've found to date. EMU oil helped a lot but didn't heal the area, although it did relieve pain, itching and and some of the swelling, for periods of time. I did have to reapply it several times a day though. The Iodine and DMSO mixture is actually shrinking and healing the tissues. It's absolutely amazing. And the pain relief is near instantaneous upon application. And I apply it ONCE a day, every morning. Now I know someone is gonna ask. So here's what I did. I had approx a fourth of a 16 oz jar of DMSO gel that I've been using, and I added three full droppers of Lugol's 2% to that. It will liquefy, so don't worry about it. Clean and dry the, e, area. Wet your fingers well with the mixture or use your choice of applicator, and apply liberally outside and a little inside. Lord have mercy I almost fell over from the sudden relief. I kid you not. Instant relief, well for me it worked that fast. YMMV. I'm gob smacked that such a simple thing worked so very very well. And o so happy to have tried it out. I had tried DMSO by itself, and it didn't work all that well for me, but add the Lugol's and they're a dynamite combo. Ya know what, this may work on spider veins, and varicose veins as well. Haven't tried that yet. Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHair Loss - link here
Thank you Steve, you're an amazing, never ending source of info:) Much cheaper to make my own. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Norton, Steve wrote: Here are some interesting links. The first one provides a LOT of info on laser/LED treatment theory. The second link provides DIY info on making your own unit for hair treatment that can also apply to healing units in general. The third is a cheap source for LEDs and 10 mw laser diodes. On the last one you will need to look for the laser link on the left. I was shocked at the prices online for commercial LED/laser healing units. WOW! - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO and Iodine
I'd try straight Lugol's on them and see if that'll shrink them, or try the DMSO and Lugol's. And the mixture didn't burn me at all. I understand the Lugol's applied to keloid scars will reduce them. It might take a while, but I've read that it's effective. I haven't tried it myself yet. Although, I do notice that a scar that I've had on my forehead for years seems to be flattening out since I started taking the Lugol's internally. And I've been taking Lugol's for months now. Patience is required :) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Donna wrote: Any idea for venereal warts? I have a friend that has them all around the rectum and has tried the stuff the doctor give but it just made them smaller and now her doctor wants to burn them off and she wants to try to get rid of them herself. Any suggestions I will pass on to her. That area I have no idea because I know stuff would burn and smart there.and it is such a delicate area. Thanks, Donna ACS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPublic Meeting to Address Codex Committee on General Principles
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News__Events/NR_030110_01/index.asp Public Meeting to Address Codex Committee on General Principles Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:08:37 -0600 The U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Office of Food Safety today announced a public meeting to provide information and receive comments on agenda items and draft U.S. positions that will be discussed at the 26th Session of the Codex Committee on General Principles (CCGP), to be held in Paris, France, April 12 - 16, 2010. Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSweeteners , where to get XYLITOL
Swanson has it. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Tel Tofflemire wrote: Go to http://www.emeraldforestsugar.com Xylitol is a sweetener made from biomass, From a company called Emerald Forrest , I have used it for many years, it is used by millions of Diabetics successfully. I used to have to buy it in Sweden , but a few years ago they put a plant in Colorado. Xylitol from this plant is all natural and made from Birch Bark. It is very low in carbs and Calories. In Cooking Xylitol is one to one in a recipe that calls for sugar, and it tastes just like real sugar (without the fat left on your bones.) Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. Herbalist http://www.quailwoodherbal.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSherbal-medicines reference website
Thank you Ode:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Ode Coyote wrote: Good reference http://www.health-care-tips.org/herbal-medicines/ ode At 10:26 AM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote:  Cool, I love poke root. Much undervalued and even worse, surrounded by fear from people who never used it. doug - Original Message - From: mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.comNorton, Steve To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: CSNatural treatments for cancer confirmed Interesting. Polo, Looks like Pokeweed is getting some good press - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHair Loss - link here
LOL, Ode. Where did you find that? Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Ode Coyote wrote: HOLY COW!! Laser Therapy Pen Specifications: Wavelength: 635nm Output Power: 5mw Price $199 plus shipping. for a standard red laser pen that even takes expensive Lithium batteries. How about $15 and free shipping using 2 AAAs or even less in some places with several beam splitter lenses..but uses 1.5 volt button cells. ode At 02:43 PM 2/21/2010 -0800, you wrote: My wife and I have also found low level laser therapy works well. Some folks on the silver list have also used red LED lights for hair growth. I designed my own laser unit and find it penetrates a little better than LEDs. Both will work though. http://www.freewebs.com/stevelevine/lasertherapypen.htm works well for pain relief too Steve Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: = Just take zinc too or the balance will get out of kilter and deplete your zinc , and make sure your iron levels are okay. Too much copper without Iron can deplete iron. And big doses or B12 can do the same. A good rule of thumb is approx 2 mg copper to 50 mg zinc. Annie. Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Leslie wrote: Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSweird!
No loading thing in my message. He just said his emails had stopped and to put him back on the list. But then again, I run my email program sandboxed so who knows. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I got a strange email from Medwith J Robert with something about caveats, which started doing a 'loading' thingy so I deleted it. Has anyone else had this? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHair Loss - link here
Just take zinc too or the balance will get out of kilter and deplete your zinc , and make sure your iron levels are okay. Too much copper without Iron can deplete iron. And big doses or B12 can do the same. A good rule of thumb is approx 2 mg copper to 50 mg zinc. Annie. Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Leslie wrote: Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.
I quit drinking anything but water and tea/coffee. Yeah coffee/tea isn't the greatest either, but it is my guilty pleasure:) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I have a friend like this Rowena, but she will not listen to me. She has type 11 diabetes and is on BP meds Metformin and something else, also statins and pain killers for her neuropathy, but still she keeps swigging diet Coke! dee On 21 Feb 2010, at 10:39, Rowena wrote: Reposted in plain text. It is true, apparently, that they use sweetener as well as sugar, and I read that the reason is that it is cheaper for them to sweeten the drinks with the chemicals than with the real sugar. They don't necessarily identify the fact that sugar is not the only sweetener, either, at least not where I live. Probably if it is below a certain quantity they don't need to report it, and let's face it, very little chemical is needed to sweeten it. There is a pretty horrific list of tales people tell of their symptoms when using Splenda, for instance, which I looked up after the aspartame articles. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater - Magnesium Bicarbonate
Yep:) I have two liters of the magnesium carbonate in the fridge. What is the Cayce Hoxsey mix, and do you add it to the magnesium carbonate? :) Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Rowena wrote: Worth researching if you haven't heard about it is Magnesium Bicarbonate water. Mg(OH)2 + (CO2)2 -- Mg(HCO3)2 People make it with Milk of Magnesia in carbonated water. MoM being unavailable in Oz, I have been using Alkamag to make it. One can add flavourings; I usually add Aloe Vera juice, Magnascent and Cayce Hoxsey Mix in the mornings. R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHair Loss
Okay, so I found this website while researching DHT and what causes elevated levels and the connection with Iodine and the thyroid. The second page talks about the thyroid hormones and Insulin resistance and T4 and how it's all related. :) Very interesting and informative read with research and reference links. And although it talk about men mostly, I'm sure that elevated levels of DHT in women can cause hair loss as well, especially as those who have thyroid problems usually have an upset in the hormone balances in the HPA axis. http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/ Annie -- Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
