--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 02:11 am, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact the whole of Europe has much lower homicide
rates than the USA,
and much stricter gun control.
--
William T
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why don't you post it?
Well, it's more than half a meg Again, I'd be happy to send it to you
offlist. :) Just let me know what
format you'd prefer.
PDF
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Jan William Coffey
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
I wrote:
No, I didn't forget, I just didn't think it had any relevance in
the current discussion. If anything, since California's rate is
about the same as Texas and it is listed as less dangerous than
Nevada
--- Joshua Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not in this particular case. All the functions are related / use the
same class variables etc. Also sometimes speed and efficiency are more
important than ease of use.
Very rarely - what's going to happen to
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Sonja van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, I knew it was out there.
Does that mean your link data base is finally operational?
LOL. No, I just happened to save that particular link cause I liked
it. Also because I wanted to
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
Everyone (not just those with aus etc.) are effected by foods. it's not
just
autistic kids who get high off of bread. It's just that the autistics are
more dialed in, more granular, more sensative.
Granular?
I'm
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
I'm not claiming to agree with Heinlein, but I will note that people are
very friendly in Texas and not so friendly in New York. G
I think there are cultural differences between Texas and New York
besides just the
--- G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 05:53:18PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote:
P.S. Dang! I went off-subject on my own post.
Do you know the etymology of the word dang?
Nope, but it was something I could say in situation my dad would use
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IOW, you (pl.) say you don't prefer it if ONLY criminals carry weapons,
you (pl.) just want to change the law so everyone who carries a weapon is
by definition a criminal . . .
I didn't say that, and I didn't say anything about criminalizing guns.
Guns
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:57:24AM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Why do you think that is?
Good debating technique?
A) Debates are activities to be won or lost. - You claim to not care about
-winning- or
statistics gatheing techniqes vary and therefore are not comparable.
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(And, oh yes: Texas does not have less
crime than other states.)
For instance, the murder rate in Texas in 2000 was 5.9
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/08132003_nw_paintball.html
In Pittsburgh, 3 teenagers were shooting paintballs from a moving
vehicle, and someone living there decided to return fire with real
bullets
Julia
who believes that
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And to know the correct way to teach my kids! Not this weird
way
they are teaching in schools now...
What weir way? Are they teaching the make two loops and tie
them together way? That way makes
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One can kill someone in a split second of rage
with the other, the former takes at least a bit of obvious effort.
I have never understood this. Many males have been in that Rage state,
especialy dufing puberty. If you haven't, I can tell you it's rather
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And there are cultural differences between Texas and California, and
the
culture in Texas agreed with me a bit more when I visited both states
on
one trip, and that's how
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
Actually, they are Heinlein's words, and the full quote is:
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good
when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
-Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond the Horizon
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good
when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
-Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond the Horizon, 1942
This statemente is totally false. Just look at any
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's certainly a good way to do the study. But one
should control for the amount of crime in the neighborhood as
well, since it could well be that gun ownership is higher in
high crime neighborhoods.
But it is also true that people's fear of crime
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 01:20 AM 8/11/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you made the claim that an armed society is a polite society.
You haven't backed up that claim with _any_ statistics or studies.
Sorry I
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 09:40 am, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hosb502tabs.xls
The average homicides per 100,000 persons per year over 1998-2000
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 8/11/2003 1:14:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That would only hold true if the criminals were aware of who did and who
did
not own guns ahead of time.
I think the gist of the argument is that legal gun ownership
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Most Dangerous States
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 01:27 PM 8/14/2003 -0700, you wrote:
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And to know the correct way to teach my kids! Not this weird
way
they are teaching in schools now
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
...
Mortality studies such as ours do not include cases in which
burglars
or
intruders are wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a
firearm.
Cases in which would-be intruders may have purposely avoided a
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
This -fear of rage- argument for not keeping a gun about is BS.
OK, what about the fear of alcohol-induced stupidity? Sometime since
my son was born, maybe it was last year, a guy in Bastrop shot his buddy
dead. Both were
--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Sloan II wrote:
Sonja van Baardwijk wrote:
But seriously, your verb tense there is perfect.
Thank you.
I don't know about the colored lenses links, but the page about
the family with the Aspergers kid was very interesting.
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought it was people who fly the Confederate flag who were more
likely
to not only own firearms but to have a rifle on a rack in the back
window
of their truck . . .
I Can Say That Because I Live Here Maru
Well, the people who are
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(And no, I'm not going to purchase a gun until I feel a lot more
comfortable around one than I am. And generally, the rattlers just
kinda park themselves in the road, so there's time to get the ammo out
of the separate locked box, load the gun,
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.jhsph.edu/gunpolicy/Guns_in_Home.pdf
Many people who own guns keep them primarily for hunting or
recreation; many keep them for self defense. This is particularly
the case among handgun owners.3 Although many gun owners keep a gun
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 09:44 am, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Homicides per 100,000, average per year from 1998-2000
Dallas TX - 20.42
New York NY - 8.77
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 8/3/2003 12:54:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, I think both of them are very important figures,
because they are extremely influential. One is the
single most cited living intellectual. The other
edits the
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:47:01PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
By worthwile I assume you mean worth wile. (you left out a space.)
Actually, I left out an h, not a space. I should have written
worthwhile. And I see that the answer is, no.
And talk
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about if we change Jan's statement to something like:
C) everyone [who wants to own a gun and who has not been convicted of a
violent crime or diagnosed with a serious mental or emotional illness]
should [be allowed to choose to] have a gun.
Can we
Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then there is the matter of accidents.
Simple solution, teach a class in gun safty in school. Replace the 10th
11th
or 12th year of english those clases are a waste.
1) I didn't consider any of those classes I took
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
C) everyone should have a gun.
I don't want one and neither do a substantial number of people in
the country, possibly approaching a majority. Are we all relegated
to second class status because we refuse to carry a gun
Will give US accidental gun death statistics for years through 2000.
For 2000
Number of Deaths 776
Population 275,264,999
Crude Rate 0.28
Age-Adjusted Rate** 0.28
Note that deaths are usually quoted as a number per 100,000 people,
which is the case above. For comparison,
--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
I also feel that it is necessary to note that there is a lot of quackery
around learning disabilities. FREX The Gift of dyslexia is a
non scientific book with absolutely ridiculous notions like dyslexics
shoes
come
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No matter what laws get passed, no matter who can leagaly cary a gun and
who
can't Criminals will allways own and carry guns.
Right, and other criminals will always commit crimes, so why have any laws
at
all?
A much more interesting statistic would
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 05:52:03PM +0530, Ritu wrote:
Nope. Orders don't begin with 'Try'. Had that been an order, it would
have read: 'Listen more and argue less...'.
Bzzzt. Try again. Orders can begin with try. Try means to do something
but
If someone doesn't join or continue in a discussion
because they're unwilling to face your acidity, that
is a loss to the list. You have politely corrected
people in the past, and that enhances the list -
I think this is one of the most important statemts made on this topic.
Whether Yo like
--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last week I've seen a BBC documentary on a single parent family with 7
kids. Of these 7, 4 kids (the boys) had various hereditary
disfunctions/diseases/handicaps. One thing they had in common was that
they all had autism in one form or
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ray Ludenia wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
Wouldn't you have a chip on your shoulder after a while as well? You
know,
having a chip on your shoulder doesn't mean there is anything wrong
with you.
Actually, having a chip on both shoulders
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:23:40PM -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
What about Assumes that anyone disagreeing with their position is
either ignorant, stupid or deliberately obtuse.?
What about, Acts passively agressive and disingenuously
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 11:07:35AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
I've been following the mislabled thread on spelling and dysxia with
some interest. My spelling is horrid,
Apparently your reading comprehension isn't so good either, Dan.
So, my
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) You deliberately continue to taunt people, even when it's clear
that they don't understand your sarcasm.
There aren't any dummies reading Killer B's, someone once said. They'll
get it eventually.
2) Your stated wish for a society that
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 05:33 PM 8/2/03 -0500, Horn, John wrote:
From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Loo-tin-at Ker-nal.
Ah, heck. I can't spell Lt either.
Unlike the old joke about engineer, I never learned how to spell it
correctly despite
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:46:48AM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
O, and Erik, yes we did turn phrases around a couple of times. The
point of that was to express the need for tolerance, and to express
that everyone is wrong once and a while even about
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 01:03:06AM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
Explain how the responses you have made above do not fall firmly in
line with passive agressiveness.
Explain how they do? I don't see it.
If you don't see how
There aren't any
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
Now, would anyone like to actually talk about the article for which
this
thread is titled?
Hm. After a bit of thinking, I have:
About
--- Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
It is, however, important to know that %20 of the world population
is far enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic.
Where does this statistic come from?
Sally Shaywitz M.D.
http://www.writersreps.com/live/catalog
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/hubble_future_0306731.html
Despite pleas from a parade of astronomers that NASA consider extending the
life and capabilities of the Hubble Space Telescope (HST), the U.S. space
agency appears
--- Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
And before anyone misunderstands me, -NO- I don't want the poor Indean
national to have to work 80 hours a week for 1/4 the pay
eaither. And -YES- I
would like him to be as gainfully employed as me.
Indean?
You know, Ritu
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:01:52 -0700 (PDT)
--- Ritu
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The seven habits of highly ineffective societies
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
Now, would anyone like to actualy talk about the article for which this
thread is titled?
Hm. After a bit of thinking, I have:
About the article or the sidetrack?
1) Automatically assumes that anyone disagreeing
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is, however, important to know that %20 of the
world population is far
enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic.
The inability to spell
properly in an illogical system such as English
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is, however, important to know that %20 of the
world population is far
enough to my side of the axis to be labled dyslexic.
The inability to spell
properly
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
Now, would anyone like to actually talk about the article for which this
thread is titled?
Hm. After a bit of thinking, I have:
1) Automatically assumes that anyone disagreeing
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 04:29 PM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is, however, important to know ...dyslexia...
And if your spelling is that bad, and clarification is asked
There are dangers there. Take these seven factors and turn them around. Some
of them will not sound so pleasing once you get under the surface and down to
the WHY the Lt. Cln. addresses.
A highly effective society could also emplode with tyrany.
What kind of life are we willing to have where we
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be 70
and
working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out
of
bed go to work, leave work, come home and go directly to bed? Many do
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
However, the emergant property is very troubeling. I do not wish to be
70
and
working long hours every day. What kind of life is it where you get out
of
bed go to work
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:04 AM 7/28/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Read about this briefly in TV Guide today and found some stuff online.
Most of the stuff online is dated 2001, but this article seems to be
more recent...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D19B42865
Some
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bryon wrote:
I think it'd be more fun
to mount a jumbo AC fan on the side... :-)
As long as either your hard drive or you fan motor are magnetically
shielded
well enough... :-)
I have two computers that get used most frequently. One is a
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 03:36 PM 7/26/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bryon wrote:
I think it'd be more fun
to mount a jumbo AC fan on the side... :-)
As long as either your hard drive or you fan motor
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 03:36:28PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
Water cooled is definaly a possible first step. Anyone have any other
ideas for keeping the video card cool? Anyone know of a 450W power
supply with a quiet fan?
I think the ultimate
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/20/international/worldspecial/20WEAP.html?pagewanted=1th
exert:
In the fall, as the debate intensified over whether to have inspectors
return to Iraq, senior government officials continued to suggest that
the
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd hate to start a war of our own, but was this
*really* necessary?
Just pondering different points of view..
JJ
Your particular objection to what happened being?
What point of view
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 03:17:37AM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
But still your missing the point. I just can't see how an intelegant
person is hoodwinked by this rediculous propoganda.
Since we are being snippy...I just can't see how an intelligent
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who said anything about restrictions? As far as spellcheckers, I
can't see how an intelligent person is hoodwinked by this ridiculous
propaganda.
I do not hav ethe time, or fel that I should be expected to run everything
through a spell checker. If as
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as it taking an inordinate amount of time to run an email through
a spellchecker, I can't see how an intelligent person is hoodwinked by
this ridiculous propaganda.
Now your just being a jerk.
On the off chance, let me explain:
Running a
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill Clinton called in to wish Bob Dole happy birthday on Larry King and
had
some excellent comments on the whole SoU flap...
As a Republican who doesn't give a flying frel about peoples personal
relationships etc. I certainly do miss that man's
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
5) Keynsian theory has fallen out of favor, being relegated to a possible
response to serious recession or depression. My Econ 101 back in the
late
1980s and popular reporting on economics over more than the last twenty
years
emphasize the
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, periods leaning more to trickle down have increased the gap between
rich and poor more than have the trickle up leaning periods.
There you go. That is exactly what needs to be expressed and isn't. At least
not as loud as it should. Instead
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 05:17:09PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
As a continuous policy it stinks, but to jumpstart a failing economy
it has worked in the past.
Only for a sufficiently vague definition of worked. Getting money into
the hands
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is an old boys club writ on a global
scale.
No backing for this. just
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 7/18/2003 11:55:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is unpatriotic to falsely attack the rationale for
the war when it is obvious to anyone who looks at the
facts that the Administration was telling the truth.
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is an old boys club writ on a global
scale.
No backing for this. just becouse the above is true (if it is) does not
mean
that they are not doing what is right when
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 10:58:49AM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
trickle down seems to work,
No it doesn't. This has been discussed at length on the list, and the
evidence is that trickle down economics does not work. It helps the rich
get richer
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 03:15:02PM -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote:
And of course, if it's been discussed on the list, it must be true.
No, you are wrong about that.
I didn't know that trickle down = less progressive taxation.
It does not equal. But
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Watching BBC versus CNN or heaven forbid FOX
Funny, I was glued to the tube, hardly slept, watched all 3 and Fox was the
only channel not leading, feeding, makeing political statments as questions,
diging for dirt where there was none, inventing dirt out of
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An image that definitively and clearly illustrates the difference
between men and women.
http://www.newpacifica.net/life.html
Do you see the inoculous little knob on the lower left? The one where all the
arrows point -down-? Whatever you do,
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's one I apparently meant to send some time ago-
Very thurough. Thank you for sharing all that work.
=
_
Jan William Coffey
_
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My friend Paul Preuss probably won't be suing the guys who made THE
CORE. Still, the possibility glimmers as we stack up comparisons and
things stolen from his book CORE. (Oh, and several scenes and thing
clearly borrowed from EARTH.)
It makes
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
d.brin wrote:
My friend Paul Preuss probably won't be suing the guys
who made THE CORE. Still, the possibility glimmers as
we stack up comparisons and things stolen from his
book CORE. (Oh, and several scenes and thing
clearly
--- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a good news/bad news kind of thing, good that the sci-fi channel
has some great ratings, sad at what it was that gave them the great
ratings (I am not including Stargate in that statement)
SCI FI's Saturday Original Movies delivered a 1.3
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 01:23 PM 7/4/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote:
iaamoac wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should
probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:10 PM 7/4/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:25:48PM -, iaamoac wrote:
But what kind of discussion is it where one adopts a viewpoint that
one does not seriously believe? Why should those who disagree with
--- iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 04:49:54AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
So agnostics are just as willing to find out if God exists as
they are
to find out that God does not exist?
That
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 02:59 pm, iaamoac wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 04:49:54AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
So agnostics are just as willing to find out if God
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So why are US Conservatives against same-sex marriage? Do they want to
force same-sex couples to live in sin?
Maybe it is becouse they think that they are already living in sin and what
they are afraid of is that their children, or childrens
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think some of the arguments in this thread beg important questions.
E.g.,
altruistic behavior doesn't require faith because it leads to success as a
species; success is an outcome of evolution, so altruism evolved. Is that
right?
The first part
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm answering Erik's message in pieces, because it was extremely long. I'
I'll start it with a general question, do people here think that there is
rarely a real conflict between one's own interest and the interest of
others?
- Original Message
Has someoen already posted this?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/07/06/government.google.ap/index.html
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Jan William Coffey
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Do you
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
Let me give just one counter example now. (Only one for space
limitation,
not for lack of examples.) Tonight, on the local news, there was an
apartment fire. One man was taken to the hospital for smoke inhalation.
He
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 03:21 am, Dan Minette wrote:
You and I have a different understanding of spiralling, then. The
non-European ethnic makeup of GB is 2.8%. They are optimistically
projecting enough immigration to make this
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't this just an example of _enlightened_ self interest? Certainly
the guy could have saved his ass and gotten out right away, but as the
result of a little risk taking, he has
Gautam
Perhaps I have been idealistic in thinking of tolerance as the opposite of
intolerance, perhaps the word tolerance is not comprehensive enough when it
comes to interaction (tolerance may be more passive action of non
posters?- not
firmly sure on this yet). (Looking back Jon did a
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: No conflicts between selfishness and morality?
humans
(most?) fall back upon these
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 12:12:18AM -0400, David Hobby wrote:
Good point. Such beliefs are not usually based in fact, but are
strongly held. So in a sense, they are based on faith. But somehow
it feels like a
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