> Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
Yes, well I can certainly see your point with that analogy. Presumably,
after the putsch, those who disagree with Team Macromedia will be rounded up
for extermination, whether they use .NET or simply want CF to be better. I'm
sure this
Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
***There are only a handful of irrelevant posts in this thread out of 98 (as of
now).
Silencing unhappy CF'ers who are having to diversify due to the lack of CF
jobs, and are willing to subject themselves to ridicule by their peers,
Oh yeah, and for the people in house who converted from classic and
.NET to CF. Lol, they wouldnt go back, even for a bump in salary.
-Adam
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:40:46 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know this thread is supposed to be dead, but I wanted to follow up
> what B
e-
> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
>
> Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
>
> ***There are only a handful of irre
I know this thread is supposed to be dead, but I wanted to follow up
what Ben had mentioned about CF in Gov.
Our branch was formed within the State Dept to consolidate all IT
under one roof. We inheritied nasty asp applications that rely heavily
in AD and msSQL. (ever try to change a domain on AD?
Where the heck do you live?
I wish I had the balls to up and move from my homeland. I consider myself
a PGP (pretty good programmer), and I am stuck here at an embarassing salary.
My job, co-workers and job environment is awesome, I get to take my dog to
work, I make my own hours, and have all
will,
if u spent as much time going to your local cfug as u do whining u'd have a
damn cfm job
have u ever gone to a cfug? do u know what a cfug is?
funny, last night at ours, the shops that were going .net & cfm have now scaled
back to just cfm, hu
and plenty of jobs were passed
Will...just remember...this is a "technical" forumso non-tech threads
have a limited lifespan here
As Mike D saidit can go to CF-Macromedia or CF-OT or heck...even the
insane CF-Community
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group
I quit mailing list. Please, lets
move this to someplace else.
Jason L. West, Sr.
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 14:39
To: CF-Talk
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Maybe I'
Michael,
Kill this thread!!
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> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cant we all learn to love each other for our differences?
What fun is that! :-)
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From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cant we all learn to love each other for our
Cant we all learn to love each other for our differences?
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vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
>
> Michael,
>
> Kill
There are parts of this thread which are not really useful and it's gotten
past the useful point. I've asked before for it to be moved over to the
CF-OT or Macromedia-Talk lists. I'd rather not do it myself if I don't have
to as it's better for the community to police itself.
On the other hand, I'
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
>
> Michael,
>
> Kill this thread!!
For what it's worth
I wonder how many of those jobs have listings like this?
Experienced web developer / software application programmer utilizing
various technologies and skills, including: ColdFusion , HTML, Active
Server Pages, IIS, ASP.NET, JavaScript, XML, MS SQL Server, XSLT,
VBScript, SQL Programming, C#, Visu
> Is anyone else getting it other than me???
Isn't this a line from Zoolanders?
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:29:02 -0400, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you do nothing else, do this. Go to dice.com, you know the site.
> Run a search for "coldfusion"! Here are the results:
>
> Jobs 1 - 30 of 201 matching your search request.
>
> Run a search for "ASP.NET". Here are
Obviously there are more ASP based applications than CF. However that
is not to say that CF hasn't been gaining on ASP.
I really don't know about Dice, I haven't looked at that site since
the late 90s, but It seems to me that there are alot more CF jobs than
there were last year, and the year prio
I will share. Bottom line, ASP.NET is indeed doing well, but
the numbers do not equate to the hypotheses that it is at ColdFusion's
expense.
--- Ben
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From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:
Interesting conversation. Just thought I would throw in this reality check.
http://tinyurl.com/323mw or the full URL:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:41:22 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Obvi
> To everyone that posted to this thread, Forta, Corfield, all
> the CF'ers like me. I'm TIRED of seeing a ton of job listings
> for ASP.NET and a few for CF!! I'm TIRED of it! What's going
> on here?? Could someone please explain this phenomenon to me
> without discussing irrelevant informatio
Actually, that was my precise point. But thanks.
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:06:41 +0100, Ulf Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jaye,
>
> I've seen this graph six months ago. While the headline could be
> frustrating, look at the red line above them...
>
> Ulf
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more .Net jobs in my area.
So again, I feel your pain man. Don't give up on CFML. Just diversify a
little so you don't get blindsided.
Rey Bango...
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
S
Great link :) - The great thing about that is CFML can run on the top
3 (reading .net for asp.net)
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:49:19 -0500, Jaye Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting conversation. Just thought I would throw in this reality check.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/323mw or the full UR
Hi Jaye,
I've seen this graph six months ago. While the headline could be
frustrating, look at the red line above them...
Ulf
Jaye Morris schrieb:
> Interesting conversation. Just thought I would throw in this reality check.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/323mw or the full URL:
>
> http://news.net
wow look at that
cobol:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 887 matching your search request.
c++:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 5566 matching your search request.
jsp:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 1909 matching your search request.
java and j2ee:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 9341 matching your search request.
Um... so perhaps if you are going for numbers
because the ppl who have the cfm jobs arent so damn wishy washy and dont give
it up at the 1st sign of a new toy
what u said is like saying that when u look in the newspaper for a job say
selling cars that there are a crap load more available for the ford dealerships
and very few if any for a le
To everyone that posted to this thread, Forta, Corfield, all the CF'ers like
me. I'm TIRED of seeing a ton of job listings for ASP.NET and a few for CF!!
I'm TIRED of it! What's going on here?? Could someone please explain this
phenomenon to me without discussing irrelevant information!
If you
I agree with Dave, adding the null concept would not allow us to make
applications we cannot make now. However adding flash remoting did and
webservices did. I'd say MM does an extremely good job of picking what
features to add, and which to outright ignore.
-Adam
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:16:29 -
actually what set me off on "poor wills" original post was him saying that he
could build a .net app faster then anyone could in cfm but then he says that
its with this great $2500 program (when there are several free cfm ones). And
he wasnt comparing apples to apples and if anyone thinks what h
the following just plopped into my inbox (after my short rant)
i think all the bandwagon jumpers are funny
have fun, cfm has always been here & probably will always be here, when .net
survives as long as cfm then come back
and smack yer lips
until then, dont let the door hit ya where the good lor
> Poor Will. All he wanted was a better ColdFusion.
There are two problems with this statement. First, what he thinks is better
may differ from what others think is better. Second, his original post here
didn't really focus on what he wanted CF to do that it doesn't already do.
Instead, he posted
> When .NET came out, and people started to use and understand
> it better, the Java community did what every CF person should
> be doing: they learned .NET. And then they deconstructed it.
> And then they asked themselves:
>
> "What can we take from .NET to make Java better"
I don't know ab
> They use the "free" .NET server tools to sell their
> development software. Lots of companies do this.
No, I don't think this is how it works for MS. I strongly suspect that both
their "free" server tools and their development tools are made available at
prices below their actual production co
> No, it is not. My MSDN subscription allows me to run
> multiple Windows server for non-production purposes.
Really? How many concurrent Windows Server 2003 installations can you get
from your single MSDN subscription? How many concurrent activations can you
get with a single MSDN serial number?
> Macromedia is NOT Microsoft. ColdFusion cannot be free at
> that level. Microsoft sells (rather expensive) servers and
> supporting tools (SQL Server, Exchange, etc) by taking a hit
> on .NET. How would MM recoup the massive costs of
> development for giving away CF?
They use the "free" .
And at this point I'll have to ask that the conversation be moved to CF-OT
or CF-Community. Thank you.
> Kwang, I think I know why you've had so many jobs..
> You send all the damn day goofing off and bitching.
> I'll be the first just to come out and say STFU.
> You're preaching to the converted,
Kwang, I think I know why you've had so many jobs..
You send all the damn day goofing off and bitching.
I'll be the first just to come out and say STFU.
You're preaching to the converted, you're wasting your time.
Now please, for the love of God, drop it and move on.
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:42:41
>There are no professional CF hosting in Turkey :( So we always need to buy
>CF to host our projects which should be hosted at different geographical
I'm not sure I understand this. If there's no CF hosting in Turkey, why not
create some? At the very least it would seem that you could host in a
I do contract work for a rather large oilfield company and have been
doing so for several years. I really never get the impression that
the costs of the CF software itself is an issue at all for anyone
here. CF is the companies defined "standard" for web applications,
yet ASPX projects repeatedly
> Please don't belittle my comments with such an offhand packaged
> response.
Seriously, I'm not belittling you. I've heard that phrase used so many times
for so many situations, it's perhaps an indication to MM that they need to
build in some more functionality, especially to keep up with the
>Kwang Suh wrote:
>
>I said I'd like to see the total cost break-down for sites like that,
>not a list of possible candidates.
You doubted that there were companies that used numbers of web servers. I have
provided you some. Feel free to ask them. Sean has already answered for you.
>I don't h
> Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
> that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
> With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
> savings.
If you're myopic enough to look at that as a valid comparison then you reall
> I'd say most people run CF on Windows, so they're paying
> for the Windows licenses on top of CF license.
Perhaps, but if they are, do you really think they're so cost-conscious
about the price of CF server licensing if they're willing to pay for Windows
licensing without batting an eye? I like
> Who said anything about fixing? I'd like more functionality:
>
> I'd like to have work across multiple
> databases. And allowed nested .
> I'd like some other number type beside floating point.
> I'd like a concept of null type.
> I'd like to have CFCs have interfaces, constructors,
> overl
Kwang Suh wrote:
>>Kwang Suh wrote:
>>
>>>Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
>>
>>that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
>>With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
>>savings.
>>
>>I'd like to see the total cos
> Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
> case, then you need to factor in the cost of Windows licenses as well as
> potential server management costs. In addition, you might be able to scale
> up better with a non-Windows solution (which generally limits you to
> Ah yes, the old "use Java when CF can't do it crutch."
>
> I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to
> develop. And everything else is hard/takes longer/is more expensive.
> So why do I want to use something hard like Java to do something in
> CF?
The "whole poin
>so bad, someone can inform Tim Uzzanti that there're actually busy
>websites built in CF :-)
You'd think he could just look at his logs... CrystalTech hosts several popular
CF sites (very well, I might add).
I still wonder at the context of the quote (the queote itself has been
published her
Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I vote to take this
topic somewhere else. Macromedia Forums is usually the best place to
have the "I hate ColdFusion" debates.
I, personally, stopped using the forums mainly because of these
religious wars. We all know CF rocks, but it's not the be
> From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Feel free to challenge them.
And feel free to move this conversation elsewhere...
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If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
and call the java code from a CFML template.
Spike
Kwang Suh wrote:
> In most languages that support threads, not only can threads be started, they
> can be paused and stopped.
>
> Is that possible using the code that Damon
> Ah yes, the old "use Java when CF can't do it crutch."
> I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to
develop. And everything else is hard/takes longer/is more expensive. So
why do I want to use something hard like Java to do something in CF?
Actually, I would call it l
>Is it safe then to assume that you don't use a QA server for .NET
>development, or are you somehow doing that without paying for a Windows
>license?
No, it is not. My MSDN subscription allows me to run multiple Windows server
for non-production purposes.
~
>>> Ah yes, the old "use Java when CF can't do it crutch."
>
>Huh? So suggesting mixing VB.NET and C# to squeeze more power from a .NET
>app that is what, a crutch? And what about writing straight Java when JSP
>can't do enough?
By design, a .NET app is meant to use any IL conformate language. A
basic concept?
--- Ben
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From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
> If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
>
> and call th
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:12:15 -0400, Kwang Suh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, Macromedia's for one. Not sure if has ten, but there's a quite a few
> there. Anandtech was running quite a few as well. There's William Sonoma.
> How about Toys'R'Us before they switched over? Pottery Barn.
I t
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:14:40 -0500, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
> case, then you need to factor in the cost of Windows licenses as well as
> potential server management costs. In addition, you might be able to sc
I like to give people some credit. If I understand what a null is, I'm sure
anyone else can.
>I'd like this, but I think there are a lot of people out there who do
>not fully understand what a null is and is not.
>
>--
>Aaron Rouse
>http://www.happyhacker.com/
>
>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:21:42 -0
> Huh? So suggesting mixing VB.NET and C# to squeeze more power from a .NET
> app that is what, a crutch? And what about writing straight Java when JSP
> can't do enough?
I hate to take the other side of this argument, but I think your example is
flawed. There's no practical reason to use C# over
I agree with you Michael.
Rey...
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From: "Dawson, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
> Maybe I'm the
Well, Excuse me!
Kwang Suh wrote:
>>If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
>>
>>and call the java code from a CFML template.
>
>
> Ah yes, the old "use Java when CF can't do it crutch."
Please don't belittle my comments with such an offhand packaged response.
I
I'd like this, but I think there are a lot of people out there who do
not fully understand what a null is and is not.
--
Aaron Rouse
http://www.happyhacker.com/
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:21:42 -0400, Kwang Suh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd like a concept of null type
> Kwang Suh wrote:
> > One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their
> incredible defensiveness, even from MM.
> >
>
> If you only take the opinions from people who have subscribed to a
> relatively high volume mailing list called CF-Talk you'd be very naive
>
> to expect anythin
> Kwang Suh wrote:
> > Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
> that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
> With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
> savings.
>
> I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a sit
> If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
>
> and call the java code from a CFML template.
Ah yes, the old "use Java when CF can't do it crutch."
I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to develop.
And everything else is hard/takes longe
> Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers.
> With CF, that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you
> can find CF at. With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be
> some additional cost savings.
Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
ca
>> ASP.NET is taking market away from CF! WHY?
>
>Are you sure? Do you have numbers for that? Either way, you're
>probably right, but if so, can you show that it's for any
>technological reasons other than the gullibility of IT managers when
>it comes to the Microsoft marketing machine?
I'd lik
Kwang Suh wrote:
> Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF, that's
> 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at. With .NET, it's
> zero cost, so there can be some additional cost savings.
I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a site that was
One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their incredible
defensiveness, even from MM.
When .NET came out, and people started to use and understand it better, the
Java community did what every CF person should be doing: they learned .NET.
And then they deconstructed it. And then
Kwang Suh wrote:
> One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their incredible
> defensiveness, even from MM.
>
If you only take the opinions from people who have subscribed to a
relatively high volume mailing list called CF-Talk you'd be very naive
to expect anything else.
Would yo
In most languages that support threads, not only can threads be started, they
can be paused and stopped.
Is that possible using the code that Damon has showed?
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Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF, that's 10
production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at. With .NET, it's zero
cost, so there can be some additional cost savings.
Also, no matter what way you cut it, CF Enterprise is quite expensive.
Also, only de
> If they're going to standardize it in BlackStone, more
> power to them, but
> HOW they're going to do it I'm not sure. Will they only
> support "orphaned"
> threads (threads which are created and launched but can't
> communicate back
> to the parent thread) or will they support a more complete
>
>> One more thing. Please don't attack me! I'm just the messenger!
Ignorance is bliss, my friend. While you're at it, why not throw a message
around claiming that the Democrats are better than Republicans, or espouse
the ideological supremacy of the Lutheran church over the Catholics.
Flame-mong
Well his point "ASP.NET is taking market away from CF" is true in this
company :) So he has at least one fact :P
Ok ok I'll shut up :P
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"TIm Uzzanti : Someone mentioned ediet.com which has a traffic ranking
of around 280,000 and in comparison CrystalTech is around 23,000.
Microsoft.com which is in the top 10 is using ASP.NET and Dell.COM
which is in the top 100 is also using ASP.NET.."
Forta has already blogged this, but i think i
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:02:18 -0500, Jim Davis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm not sure how this will be implemented in BlackStone -
>> Isaac's post was
>> the first I'd heard of it. But it is doable in Java (of
>> course) and it
>> wouldn't be all that hard to create a CFC to kick
>> somethi
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:53 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
>
> For most small to medium projects I'm not sure why you would
> ever want to
> buy CF anyway - hosting seems the way to. Since the
in the future. Macromedia should review the
> market and prices again and again...
> Murat.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:37 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET!
I guess they did something terribly wrong there, PHP is a very simple
language, you could even compare the learning curve to CF. I build my
apps as fast with CF as PHP or ASP (C# other story), so I must guess
there have been other issues except the application server used.
Micha Schopman
Software
Cmon, step of that pre defined CF idea. It makes a discussion very
difficult, when people are rusty in their current web application
platform, and do not try to be open minded about other possible ways.
The flamewar part is long gone (if there was a flamewar, it was merely a
sharp discussion).
Say
damn i missed all this!
coldfusion will never last, ASP ROCKS and it will be the future!!
LMFAO!
-- Original Message --
From: Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:52:55 +0100
>I think I am going to switch to
I think I am going to switch to COBOL or PASCAL.. not sure this CF
shaahoey will ever take off.
ASP.NET? isnt that a website about snakes that are hidden in pretty baskets?
Ho hum.
Flame wars are so invigorating dont you think?
CFMX smells of eldeberries.
--
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coldfusion and cfeclips
nal Message-
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:37 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
>
> Regarding the relative costs of the "expensive" ColdFusion and the
> "free" ot
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:02:18 -0500, Jim Davis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure how this will be implemented in BlackStone - Isaac's post was
> the first I'd heard of it. But it is doable in Java (of course) and it
> wouldn't be all that hard to create a CFC to kick something like this off
> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
>
> I think you're a bit off...
I think that the original poster might
I think you're a bit off...
I could be wrong, but it's been my impression that when a thread
finishes processing, it delivers any undelivered content from the
buffer immediately and then grabs up the next incoming http request.
So nobody's actually waiting for someone else's thread to finsih, just
Regarding the relative costs of the "expensive" ColdFusion and the
"free" other technologies, I have a statement from a colleague in
another organisation, which I'll be posting separately. I told him
about a site I'd just about finished in ColdFusion and he told me he
was amazed. That I'd done m
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> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
>
> >> There are other factors that one needs to think about
> >> when writing an
> >> application. Think about the ability to use Threa
>> There are other factors that one needs to think about
>> when writing an
>> application. Think about the ability to use Threads in
>> .NET. Depending
>> on your application, sitting and processing 10 requests
>> back to back may
>> take 5 minutes but if you had the ability to run the 10
>> tasks
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:00:56 -0400, Micha Schopman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dont think anyone with enough knowledge says Java is slow :) In fact, .NET
> currently is slower than Java which is pretty funny compared to the wrapper
> (around win32) .NET actually is, compared to Java which has
> I'm going to bring this one in from the Blackstone Beta thread yesterday
> because I think we all need to talk about this.
Why? I thought this was a technical discussion list? If this were a list
about, say, Porsches, would it be appropriate to talk about how much better
Ferraris are? (Oh, and b
I dont think anyone with enough knowledge says Java is slow :) In fact, .NET
currently is slower than Java which is pretty funny compared to the wrapper
(around win32) .NET actually is, compared to Java which has to do all on his
own. (btw.. benches: http://www.shudo.net/jit/perf/).
Nobody usin
> I saw someone asking if someone could prove .NET is faster, .. haven't
> you seen any benchmarks? My diff algorithm (using levensthein) is
> about 1000x faster in .NET and the CF code has been finetuned into
> it's most optimal form. CF ofcourse has it's plusses or else I would
> not use it,
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I am not going to get sucked into a flame war here, but this one line just
begged a response ...
> Blackstone is not equivalent to .NET in power and performance.
Did you, by any chance, mean to compare J2EE to .NET, or were you really
displaying such an amazing lack of understanding as to what Co
Both platforms have their own good and bad issues. I have been using CF since
the first versions and since the .NET platform was marketed (and the management
board showed twinkeling eyes, hey another Microsoft cashcow) also started using
C#. I like both, unfortunately management has problems sel
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