Re: [Discuss] dumping my incomplete notes on tickets

2015-05-26 Thread Bryan Richter
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 07:13:28PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > Looking through this, I clarified some items with comments on the > site. Thanks! > SD-355 about transparency is not just project management — it's a > requirement in that we are specifying that some level of public > report on funds i

Re: [Discuss] Proposal: simplify the formula, remove extra matching…

2015-05-30 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:54:58AM -0700, Mike Linksvayer wrote: > I'm all for simplification and probably agree both shares and logarithms make > system harder to understand, but for clarity could you spell out exactly what > the new formula would be? Besides Aaron's transcript of his convo with

Re: [Discuss] scope: account vs. project

2015-06-01 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 08:40:04AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > On 06/01/2015 05:07 AM, mray wrote: > > > > I'm proposing to put weight on your vote, not your preference. > > Effectively giving people the choice to set their financial value in the > > FLO ecosystem. Of course this puts a big burd

[Discuss] Fwd: [Yesod] stack support in yesod devel

2015-06-29 Thread Bryan Richter
yesod devel supports stack now. I'll be trying this out asap. Other people should try it out, too. If it works for everyone (and I bet it will), our setup instructions will be really short! - Forwarded message from Michael Snoyman - Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:32:16 + From: Michael Sno

[Discuss] Process for letting more people push to 'master'

2015-07-08 Thread Bryan Richter
I think it's important to spread the responsibility for updating the master branch. Right now only two of us can do so: wolftune and myself. This can be considered one extreme of the right-to-push spectrum, and it's one that is used by a lot of projects. The other extreme is to give write access to

Re: [Discuss] Process for letting more people push to 'master'

2015-07-09 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:32:53PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote: > On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 05:41:46PM -0700, Bryan Richter wrote: > > I think it's important to spread the responsibility for updating > > the master branch. Right now only two of us can do so: wolftune > &g

Re: [Discuss] Process for letting more people push to 'master'

2015-07-09 Thread Bryan Richter
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 07:11:05AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > On 07/09/2015 12:15 AM, Etienne wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I don't really know what you mean by "push to master" but I strongly > > advise about it. I mean accept merge requests, after they have been reviewed. > > Actually nobody sho

Re: [Discuss] Process for letting more people push to 'master'

2015-07-09 Thread Bryan Richter
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 09:02:24AM +0300, Nikita Karetnikov wrote: > I think we should setup a CI system (bake?) to ensure that master always > builds. Then we could just give access to all regular contributors. > Note that it doesn't rule out code review/discussion of questionable > things. Yes,

Re: [Discuss] Process for letting more people push to 'master'

2015-07-10 Thread Bryan Richter
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 09:28:13AM -0700, Bryan Richter wrote: > ... The one thing lost is a digital signature of the tag, but I'm > not sure why we want that anyway. It's not like end users are > constantly downloading a version and running their own Snowdrifts > (other than

[Discuss] Leveling up the deactivation mechanism

2015-08-11 Thread Bryan Richter
After some discussion, we are considering another approach for handling underfunded users. See my writeup on the wiki discussion: https://snowdrift.coop/p/snowdrift/w/en/mechanism/c/3419 A key improvement of this algorithm is that there is no dependence on historical values, as there was previous

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-17 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 06:02:52PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 09:50:13PM +0200, mray wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > So here is my candidate: > > > > > > "WE FUND FREE CULTURE." > > > > WE indicates that it is about people (many!), maybe including you > >

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-18 Thread Bryan Richter
Here's a brainstorm. We fund Funding Towards For Supporting We support Patrons of Creating Realizing Shared Open Free Respectful Communal Natural Human Culture Software Works Commons Arts Progress Technology Goods Innovation signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-21 Thread Bryan Richter
I am writing a lengthier missive on this topic, but I wanted to briefly summarize my point of view. After much deliberation I have come to agree with most of Robert's points. Right now my top choice is "We support the digital commons". Well, ok, I'll make this one a little longer right now. There

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

2015-09-22 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:35:25PM +0200, mray wrote: > > On 21.09.2015 19:48, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > > > FREE THE COMMONS > > > > That's it. Total chant, rallying cray, *verb*, uses "free" but without > > the confusion… I feel good about it the moment I just wrote that… > > > > Instant like. T

Re: [Discuss] Slogan proposal: "Free the Commons!"

2015-09-30 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:08:18PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > Per discussion recently, we worked through a lot of options for slogans. > It seem people with various critical views all accept the value of the > simple: Free the Commons! Is the exclamation point part of the slogan? I like it better

Re: [Discuss] Slogan proposal: "Free the Commons!"

2015-09-30 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:37:34AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > > On 09/30/2015 11:30 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:08:18PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> Per discussion recently, we worked through a lot of options for slogans. > >> It

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: What makes a team member?

2015-10-19 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:09:22PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > The question is: How do we determine who gets to count enough as a team > member of Snowdrift and thus get to vote in that member class in the > co-op? The same question also must be answered for counting as a member > of other projec

Re: [Discuss] Flagging comments in the forum

2015-10-19 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:40:04AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > On 10/19/2015 11:14 AM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > I don't like the way flagging is currently presented in the forum. To > > check a box that labels another comment as "defensiveness" or "hate > > speech" has a lot of potential for e

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: What makes a team member?

2015-10-19 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:04:33AM -0700, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > >Paying a member fee is an interesting thought. I guess I hadn't >considered that. I have been mostly thinking that it makes sense >to give full time staff, payed or not, special representation on >the board. In ot

Re: [Discuss] [Legal] Thoughts on pledge matching

2015-10-19 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:46:25AM -0700, Jonathan Roberts wrote: >related to #2. Is there an option for an "upper limit?" A person can say >"I want to give to this but I can't go above $5 a month and I don't want >to have to drop out or be constantly re-adjusting my pledge rate." >

Re: [Discuss] Thoughts on pledge matching

2015-10-19 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:44:34AM -0700, Jonathan Roberts wrote: >These things may have been discussed already, but these are >initial thoughts from friends looking at the system; ie >theoretical potential patrons. > >1)It will make the average person nervous to not see a very clea

Re: [Discuss] Thoughts on pledge matching

2015-10-19 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 02:18:14PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > > On 10/19/2015 02:06 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > > This is actually more than just a psychological barrier. This will > > actually prevent institutional sponsors from signing up. I spoke > > with...

Re: [Discuss] Launch ready issues

2015-10-20 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 03:16:17PM -0700, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > >3)have all graphics and coding actually loaded (not sure this is the right >term) on the live site so we can test for bugs. This one is bigger than one might think. Will discuss more shortly, probably on the dev mailing l

Re: [Discuss] Sprints?

2015-10-20 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 03:37:10PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: >On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Jason Harrer >wrote: > > If we keep changing everything and second guessing and changing > everything, we're never going to launch. > >This is a really good point. How do peopl

Re: [Discuss] Pricing experiments & launch timeframe

2015-10-21 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:44:55PM -0200, Dave Crossland wrote: >Could the project sooner bootstrap itself with a mostly manual, >spreadsheet based calculation? This is a thought-provoking question, and one I am happy to be reminded of whenever it seems relevant. In this case I'm not sure

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

2015-10-21 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:54:49AM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:36 AM, mray wrote: >> >> Here is my general rationale: The idea of Snowdrift is that it >> has its own pace to up the game of donation levels, depending >> on number of patrons. Our primary

Re: [Discuss] Splitting things up: status

2015-11-05 Thread Bryan Richter
will be huge! On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 09:19:57PM -0500, Stephen Michel wrote: > > > On November 4, 2015 9:14:12 PM EST, Aaron Wolf > wrote: > > > > > >On 11/04/2015 04:56 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > >> > >> This is more a question for the discuss@

Re: [Discuss] NYT article on "philanthropic economics"

2015-11-11 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 01:24:17PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > For anyone curious, a tl;dr for the article: people study matching and > other things in traditional donating, and the results include things > like anchor points and seeing what others do and donating *more* when > you see others don

Re: [Discuss] OSI partnership, blog post (request for feedback)

2015-11-16 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:25:38PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > Hi all, > > I wrote a blog post with content that *some* will find quite > interesting but is largely a nuanced, apologetic commentary addended > to what is really a short and simple news announcement: > > https://snowdrift.coop/p/snow

Re: [Discuss] OSI partnership, blog post (request for feedback)

2015-11-16 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 07:43:46PM -0500, Stephen Michel wrote: > > > Does this also mean that should we decide to use the > "donation-to-us" mechanism, those donations would be 501(c)(3) > deductible? I don't think this affects that possibility, really. Right now, people can donate tax-deductibl

Re: [Discuss] Snowdrift.coop Requirements, Part I

2015-11-23 Thread Bryan Richter
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:36:37PM -0600, Jason Harrer wrote: > To clarify the intent the request I'm asking you all to partake > in... > > 1) I'm taking an inventory of required pages, be they already > written and in production, in the process of being written, in need > of correction, or brand

Re: [Discuss] Possible visual aid for discussing whether Snowdrift.coop is a good fit for a project

2016-01-23 Thread Bryan Richter
Thanks! So far we're getting great feedback and support. Thanks so much for the design work and messaging work, all of you. The difference from presenting at previous events is palpable. On Jan 23, 2016 8:59 AM, "Michael Siepmann" wrote: > This is very much a first draft to illustrate an idea, bu

[Discuss] Sandstorm Etherpad is a memory hog

2016-01-27 Thread Bryan Richter
Each Etherpad pad uses 60-100MB of memory when someone has it open. Right now there are four open pads, using a total of 27% of the system's memory. I don't know if we can stand for that. Options? Thoughts? signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___

Re: [Discuss] Sandstorm Etherpad is a memory hog

2016-01-27 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 02:45:20PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 01/27/2016 02:29 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > Each Etherpad pad uses 60-100MB of memory when someone has it > > open. Right now there are four open pads, using a total of 27% of > > the system's memory. &

Re: [Discuss] Sandstorm Etherpad is a memory hog

2016-01-27 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 02:53:49PM -0800, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 02:45:20PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > On 01/27/2016 02:29 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > > Each Etherpad pad uses 60-100MB of memory when someone has it > > > open. Right now there

[Discuss] shutting down our sandstorm instance

2016-01-28 Thread Bryan Richter
We primarily wanted Sandstorm for Etherpad. However, Etherpad is a node.js based, JIT-compiled application. Sandstorm's security model requires each document to be running in its own, sandboxed copy of the app, and the JIT-ness apparently precludes such applications from sharing memory. Thus, each

[Discuss] Meeting minutes 2016-02-01

2016-02-01 Thread Bryan Richter
Thanks to setting up OpenProject, we now have a perfectly reasonable place to record minutes for meetings. Here is what I came up with for today's meeting: http://shovel.snowdrift.coop/meetings/2 Any feedback on minutes format would be appreciated. Too terse? p.s. to Aaron, Jason, and any other

Re: [Discuss] Meeting minutes 2016-02-01

2016-02-01 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 04:26:01PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 02/01/2016 03:36 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > Thanks to setting up OpenProject, we now have a perfectly reasonable > > place to record minutes for meetings. Here is what I came up with for > > today

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Agenda; Holocracy Circles / OpenProject Groups & Roles

2016-02-02 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 09:00:10AM -0600, Jason Harrer wrote: > > 2) As I'm reviewing and investigating more about what OpenProject > can do and how we can organize things, I think it would be > beneficial to take the time to try and establish the groups and > roles and figuring out the workflow f

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-05 Thread Bryan Richter
On Fri, Feb 05, 2016 at 01:23:57PM -0600, Jason Harrer wrote: > > Here are my proposoals. > >- Work will be tracked in Releases > - Release is a new Work Package type that I created. > OpenProject was using it in their instance, and it made > sense. It's a high level pac

Re: [Discuss] Meeting minutes 2016-02-01

2016-02-08 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 09:21:20AM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 02/06/2016 04:10 AM, Jason Harrer wrote: > > > > I strongly recommend we keep a bit more detailed record of meeting > > minutes in the future. Being that I'm usually working and am forced to > > multitask, I can't offer to take on t

[Discuss] fundingoss.com

2016-02-09 Thread Bryan Richter
I added us to http://fundingoss.com/ . I don't know how much good it will do, but at least it might catch some eyeballs of people who care about the same things we do. http://fundingoss.com/143/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-10 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 06:38:24AM -0600, Jason Harrer wrote: > > 1) Changing the Milestone work package type is indeed an option. > The reason I chose to create the separate one is because a Milestone > in OP is intended to be kind of like a tag is in git: It marks a > certain point in time. On

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-11 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 03:15:38PM -0800, Stephen Yeung wrote: > Regarding Milestones they're generally meant for big events (i.e. > launches or when you complete a suite of inter-related features) > wherein you take stock and review work and see if changes are > needed. Right now our two "milesto

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-11 Thread Bryan Richter
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 04:25:08PM -0500, Stephen Michel wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Bryan Richter > wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 03:15:38PM -0800, Stephen Yeung wrote: > >> Regarding Milestones they're generally meant for big events (i.e. >

[Discuss] Hatch — potential resource?

2016-02-12 Thread Bryan Richter
A note I managed to scribble down at SCaLE was about Hatch: http://www.hatchthefuture.org/hatch-a-new-social-enterprise/big-ideas/ It seems geared towards traditional capital-raising entrepreneurship, but the overlap still seems significant. Their top initiative is "Resources and guidance to get

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-12 Thread Bryan Richter
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 03:03:38AM -0500, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Bryan Richter > wrote: > >On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 04:25:08PM -0500, Stephen Michel wrote: > >> > >> Pre-Alpha (name?): complete site except funding mechanism, where &g

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

2016-02-12 Thread Bryan Richter
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 02:12:59PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 02/12/2016 02:00 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > > > Hmm, yeah, maybe co-op/money/website are a lot more interdependent > > than I was thinking. That makes me wonder — what is the plan for > > co-op and

[Discuss] backlog grooming meeting on wednesday

2016-02-22 Thread Bryan Richter
Aaron has created a list of user stories to guide development of the site. Some time on Wednesday, we're going to have our first "backlog grooming meeting". This email is a call to participate. A backlog grooming meeting is where everyone with a stake will inspect the highest priority items and ad

Re: [Discuss] backlog grooming meeting on wednesday

2016-02-23 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 08:25:34PM -0800, Bryan Richter wrote: > Aaron has created a list of user stories to guide development of the > site. Some time on Wednesday, we're going to have our first "backlog > grooming meeting". This email is a call to participate. > >

Re: [Discuss] backlog grooming meeting on wednesday

2016-02-24 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 05:08:37PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 02/23/2016 04:42 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 08:25:34PM -0800, Bryan Richter wrote: > > > > Based on the feedback I've received, we will have the grooming > > meeting a

Re: [Discuss] backlog grooming meeting on *thursday*

2016-02-24 Thread Bryan Richter
We will have another grooming meeting tomorrow, Thursday February 25, at the same time: 21:00 UTC (1pm PST). signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo

[Discuss] user stories vs specs

2016-02-26 Thread Bryan Richter
Yesterday while fleshing out user stories, the question came up of whether or not user stories can capture everything, or whether some information should be deferred to specs. In my opinion, separate specifications are needed because user stories only capture features. It is not a user story that

[Snowdrift-discuss] steps that lead to working mechanism

2016-03-01 Thread Bryan Richter
We've made some progress on concretely defining the goal for MVP, but there's a gulf between our current situation and that goal. Here is the shortest path to a working mechanism including notifications. 1. Begin hosting a new version of the site at dev.snowdrift.coop with a fresh data

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] steps that lead to working mechanism

2016-03-01 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 10:17:33AM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > For one thing, I insist that the full launch of MVP (which is not at > the beginning of the process strictly) include some form of the > establishment process with the honor pledge as part of keeping our > dedication to safe, respectab

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] steps that lead to working mechanism

2016-03-01 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 12:16:22PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > So, I have a bigger concern to make sure we consider: Lots of things > currently reference user id such as links for sponsors and elsewhere > including CiviCRM. There are some reasons to dislike the way the > arbitrary id numbers are

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] [Snowdrift-dev] [PATCH] User nicknames as public user IDs: Change UserR route

2016-03-07 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 02:39:07PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > In this case, I'm fine with moving forward but only if it's otherwise > clean progress. Ok, if design is fine with it (which was expected) we come to a bigger problem. Right now I'm working to strip out unnecessary features and prototy

[Snowdrift-discuss] Page development: current status

2016-03-14 Thread Bryan Richter
Below is a list of all the pages needed for launch. Aaron and I looked at most of them and brainstormed what they needed to be complete. I added completion percentage numbers to all of them, which are pleasant little fictions. What would be *lovely* is to somehow get this information added into Op

[Snowdrift-discuss] Switching primary git repository

2016-03-21 Thread Bryan Richter
Our project is well on its way through the process of changing the primary git repository away from git.gnu.io. As sysadmin I am responsible for supporting that process, but I suppose I would be remiss if I did not also ask for justification for the process. Is git.gnu.io insufficient in some way

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Switching primary git repository

2016-03-21 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 03:33:29PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 03/21/2016 03:21 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > Our project is well on its way through the process of changing the > > primary git repository away from git.gnu.io. > > > > Is git.gnu.io insufficient

[Snowdrift-discuss] Sandstorm on Oasis

2016-03-24 Thread Bryan Richter
We've sort of put Sandstorm on a back burner, but I think there is a much better solution to consider: https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/administering/for-work/#special-pricing Basically, we should just ask for free hosting on their managed service, Oasis. 1. We don't have to manage it at all

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] [Snowdrift-dev] PSA: I assume you're also on the snowdrift discuss mailing list

2016-03-28 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:41:50AM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote: > > If you would like me (and I assume many of us) to subscribe to the > discuss list, it needs to be about things of general interest, that > concern the majority of the community. Stuff about governance, > meetings, project manage

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] This coming week's meetings

2016-03-28 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 07:04:26PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > > 1. Weekly tactical meeting, on Monday. In the meeting, we'll be > prioritizing and grooming our backlog. I'd rather these be three separate meetings: tactical, prioritizing, grooming. The best scrum analogue to the tactical meet

[Snowdrift-discuss] Team list now publicly available

2016-03-31 Thread Bryan Richter
https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/team This mailing list is for two sorts of people: 1. Anyone filling a role as defined in the governance docs. These people are unmoderated. 2. Anyone else who is interested in the organizational machinations taking place "behind the scenes"[1]. Thes

[Snowdrift-discuss] git.snowdrift.coop

2016-04-15 Thread Bryan Richter
As most of you know, we don't use Github by default because it isn't FLO software. For the past year or so, we've been piggy-backing on gnu.io's private Gitlab instance, which *is* FLO software. That situation is going away, unfortunately. Luckily, the Gitlab organization has donated to us our *ow

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] [Snowdrift-team] modifying donations to feed into the mechanism

2016-05-06 Thread Bryan Richter
[moving to discuss list] On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 12:57:41PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 05/06/2016 12:10 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 11:31:52AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> > >> > >> In short, I read your comments above as though

[Snowdrift-discuss] Keeping content available while moving forward with the main website

2016-05-16 Thread Bryan Richter
I wanted to bring an existing discussion on to the mailing lists to spread the word. Existing discussion: https://tree.taiga.io/project/snowdrift/issue/360 To quote myself there, In order to focus development and drastically reduce maintenance burden, I have deprioritized and removed all

[Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

2016-05-17 Thread Bryan Richter
Website work is blocked on taking care of the blog, so let's do that. We have to make some decisions, but first we need to agree on what purpose we are trying to achieve. To frame the "purpose" discussion, I'll pose the first question: Where does the blog live? The decision flowchart starts with:

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] modifying donations to feed into the mechanism

2016-05-17 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 02:00:25PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 03:48:54PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > > To me, it seems like arrears is the clear superior option for MVP. Holding > > funds adds significant legal complexity for what seems like a small benefit > > -- a

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

2016-05-17 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16:09AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 05/17/2016 10:21 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > Website work is blocked on taking care of the blog, so let's do that. > > We have to make some decisions, but first we need to agree on what > > purpos

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

2016-05-17 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 02:06:11PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 05/17/2016 02:04 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > >> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16:09AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> > >> On 05/1

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

2016-05-18 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:13:34PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:21:23AM -0700, Bryan Richter wrote: > > Website work is blocked on taking care of the blog, so let's do that. > > We have to make some decisions, but first we need to agree on wha

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

2016-05-18 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 09:22:46PM -0600, Michael Siepmann wrote: > > > On 05/18/2016 05:51 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:13:34PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote: > >> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:21:23AM -0700, Bryan Richter wrote: > >>&g

[Snowdrift-discuss] chreekat in Seattle on June 3rd

2016-05-26 Thread Bryan Richter
Anybody around to meet up on Friday the 3rd before I take the bus home at 4:00pm? I'm going to Seattle to attend a friend's event on the evening of the 2nd. I'll be available the next day, Friday the 3rd, any time (morning or afternoon) up to 4pm. -Bryan signature.asc Description: Digital signa

[Snowdrift-discuss] UX questions for password reset

2016-06-03 Thread Bryan Richter
There are two situations where I'm not sure what the best action is. 1. A visitor tries to create an account using an email address that already exists. Do we tell the visitor what the situation is? On the one hand, it provides potentially useful feedback. On the other hand, it l

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] UX questions for password reset

2016-06-14 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 02:06:13PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > >On 06/04/2016 06:56 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > >> > >> On June 4, 2016 5:21:31 AM EDT, mray wrote: > >>> > >>> On 04.06.

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] UX questions for password reset

2016-06-14 Thread Bryan Richter
By the way: https://tree.taiga.io/project/snowdrift/us/392 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss

[Snowdrift-discuss] greetings from Finland

2016-06-22 Thread Bryan Richter
Hi all, Today was my first real day in Finland, and happily I was able to settle in and make some progress on Snowdrift. My internet situation is still getting squared away, but it should be good soon. I'm way out in the countryside, and I'm looking forward to many distraction-free hours over the

[Snowdrift-discuss] Design framework meeting -- Wednesday 13 July, 18:00 UTC

2016-07-11 Thread Bryan Richter
A few months ago, we were working on creating a usable framework for Haskellers and non-Haskellers alike to build the front end (html and css) for the website. We're going to re-open that discussion this week. Feel free to join. signature.asc Description: Digital signature __

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Design framework meeting -- Wednesday 13 July, 18:00 UTC

2016-07-13 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:40:16PM +0300, Bryan Richter wrote: > A few months ago, we were working on creating a usable framework for > Haskellers and non-Haskellers alike to build the front end (html and > css) for the website. > > We're going to re-open that discussion thi

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-03 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 10:27:18AM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: > > >> On 08/02/2016 06:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > >>> I think the cleanest initial way to go is "No more than $limit will be > >>> added to your outstanding balance each month." That is, carried over > >>> matches shou

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-09 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:55:42PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 08/03/2016 03:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> On 08/03/2016 03:29 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > >>> Clean slate because context is getting absurd and this is important > >>> reg

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-09 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:55:42PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 08/03/2016 03:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> On 08/03/2016 03:29 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > >>> What happens if someone wants to set their limit lower than the > >>> minimum

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-09 Thread Bryan Richter
On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 09:56:30AM -0600, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 08/09/2016 08:09 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > > On 08/09/2016 06:31 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > >> On August 9, 2016 8:59:16 AM EDT, Bryan Richter wrote: > >>> > >>> I suggest we sp

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-09 Thread Bryan Richter
On August 9, 2016 10:51:36 PM GMT+03:00, Aaron Wolf wrote: >On 08/09/2016 12:37 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: >> On 08/09/2016 11:20 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: >> >>> >>> There are three things being discussed here, so I want to provide >>

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-10 Thread Bryan Richter
> > On August 9, 2016 4:55:17 PM EDT, Michael Siepmann > wrote: > >I'd add that whether we display a minimum charge or a maximum > >percentage, the fact is that we're using the percentage as our > >guide as to what's a reasonable threshold, so it's more informative > >to display a percentage, an

[Snowdrift-discuss] migrating users

2016-08-12 Thread Bryan Richter
Since persona is shutting down, we have to migrate everyone to an email/passphrase authentication system. I did some analysis of the user table to see what that would require. I found a few different categories of user, which may need different treatments. I broke it down into six different groups

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] migrating users

2016-08-15 Thread Bryan Richter
e need right now to allow for the later possibility of adding usernames or additional email addresses. > On 08/12/2016 07:31 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > > > There's a really really easy solution to this migration question: > > blow away the entire user table and start

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-16 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 03:03:15PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > On 08/10/2016 01:27 AM, mray wrote: > > > > > > On 09.08.2016 22:43, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> On 08/09/2016 12:59 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > >> > >>>> Also, I strongly support

[Snowdrift-discuss] mocking up dashboard and snowdrift project pages

2016-08-18 Thread Bryan Richter
I scratched the surface of mocking up the dashboard page and the snowdrift project page. It's on the branch "mech-mockups". https://git.snowdrift.coop/sd/snowdrift/commits/mech-mockups The present goal for these pages is to let people pledge to Snowdrift and indicate the status of the Snowdrift p

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-31 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:03:38AM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > > On August 20, 2016 8:27:09 AM EDT, mray wrote: > > > >On 16.08.2016 00:03, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> On 08/10/2016 01:27 AM, mray wrote: > >>> > >>> On 09.08.2016 22:43, Aaron Wolf

[Snowdrift-discuss] Now Gitlab has kanban :)

2016-08-31 Thread Bryan Richter
https://about.gitlab.com/2016/08/22/announcing-the-gitlab-issue-board https://git.snowdrift.coop/sd/snowdrift/board I don't have time to have an opinion on this right now. I'll just say that we shouldn't even consider using it yet. We can reconsider in 6–12 months. signature.asc Description: Di

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

2016-08-31 Thread Bryan Richter
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:08:54PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > On August 31, 2016 6:38:46 AM EDT, Bryan Richter wrote: > >On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:03:38AM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote: > >> On August 20, 2016 8:27:09 AM EDT, mray wrote: > >> >On 16.08.2016 00:03

[Snowdrift-discuss] Focus of Effort, start of September

2016-09-01 Thread Bryan Richter
Hi all, I'm officially back from the Scottish highlands. Let's talk about what we'll be working on the next two weeks. For the website, I know of three main areas: 1. Write specs and HTML/CSS mockups for project page, dashboard, and financial history US-67 US-454 US-321 US-41

[Snowdrift-discuss] Using Stripe.js will break LibreJS

2016-09-01 Thread Bryan Richter
I found this in their IRC log: https://botbot.me/freenode/stripe/2015-01-27/?msg=30596784&page=6 Confirmed just now: https://botbot.me/freenode/stripe/2016-09-01/?msg=72325992&page=5 (Unfortunately I asked my question right as some lunatic was spamming their channel with help requests, heh) If

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Using Stripe.js will break LibreJS

2016-09-01 Thread Bryan Richter
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 05:15:48PM +0300, Bryan Richter wrote: > > I think we need to bend on this one, accept the realities of 2016, and > use stripe.js anyway. We can try to provide advanced warning to > LibreJS/noscript fans if it's truly necessary. Also, it would be quite s

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Using Stripe.js will break LibreJS

2016-09-03 Thread Bryan Richter
On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 11:18:43PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > Update: I checked with Crowd Supply what they do… > > They say they simply have a form that doesn't use any JS, they > process the form data server-side and send to stripe via Stripe's > API, and they never store any payment data to dis

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Using Stripe.js will break LibreJS

2016-09-04 Thread Bryan Richter
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 01:23:49PM -0500, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > > Bryan wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 11:18:43PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> Update: I checked with Crowd Supply what they do… >>> >>> They say they simply have a form that doesn't use any JS, they >>> process the form dat

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Using Stripe.js will break LibreJS

2016-09-04 Thread Bryan Richter
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 09:30:19AM +0300, Bryan Richter wrote: > > After thinking about it this weekend, I think I'm comfortable with > putting this on the near-term roadmap. Update: https://tree.taiga.io/project/snowdrift/issue/472 signature.asc Description: Dig

[Snowdrift-discuss] Status going into 2nd half of September

2016-09-13 Thread Bryan Richter
Hiya, I'm sending this to the whole ML so it will also be a public status update. :) On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:01:20PM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: > Since I could not reach you in the last meeting I write you: > > 1. What is the current situation about Sass - are we going to use > it? >

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