Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
thing-list Sent: Mon, Sep 16, 2019 8:11 am Subject: Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:58 PM John Clark wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:49 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > "Many Worlds" (as demonstrated via Sean Carroll here)

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 7:11:30 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:58 PM John Clark > wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:49 AM Philip Thrift > > wrote: >> >> > "Many Worlds" (as demonstrated via Sean Carroll here) demonstrates a >>> failure of theoretical physics,

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 5:58:58 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:49 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > "Many Worlds" (as demonstrated via Sean Carroll here) demonstrates a >> failure of theoretical physics, or philosophy, or both. >> > > And I think the above

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 6:11:30 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:58 PM John Clark > wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:49 AM Philip Thrift > > wrote: >> >> > "Many Worlds" (as demonstrated via Sean Carroll here) demonstrates a >>> failure of theoretical physics,

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:58 PM John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:49 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > "Many Worlds" (as demonstrated via Sean Carroll here) demonstrates a >> failure of theoretical physics, or philosophy, or both. >> > > And I think the above demonstrates a lack of

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:49 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > "Many Worlds" (as demonstrated via Sean Carroll here) demonstrates a > failure of theoretical physics, or philosophy, or both. > And I think the above demonstrates a lack of courage to face the possibility that reality may be structured in

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 1:41:41 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXCwUsuvKo> > > John K Clark > "Many Worlds" (as demonstrated via Sean Carroll here) demo

Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-16 Thread John Clark
Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXCwUsuvKo> John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

Re: It's all in your head

2019-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
o the indubitable. >> >> Now, I do think that there are no evidences for a primary physical universe. >> And there are evidence that it does not exist: mainly that it can be proven >> that that it is incompatible with Mechanism, for which we do have evidences, >> like the evid

Re: It's all in your head

2019-09-05 Thread Philip Thrift
ink that there are no evidences for a primary physical >> universe. And there are evidence that it does not exist: mainly that it can >> be proven that that it is incompatible with Mechanism, for which we do have >> evidences, like the evidence for evolution, molecular biology, or

Re: It's all in your head

2019-09-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
> Now, I do think that there are no evidences for a primary physical universe. > And there are evidence that it does not exist: mainly that it can be proven > that that it is incompatible with Mechanism, for which we do have evidences, > like the evidence for evolution

It's all in your head

2019-09-04 Thread Philip Thrift
hat there are no evidences for a primary physical > universe. And there are evidence that it does not exist: mainly that it can > be proven that that it is incompatible with Mechanism, for which we do have > evidences, like the evidence for evolution, molecular biology, or the > computab

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/3/2019 8:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3 May 2019, at 14:06, Quentin Anciaux >>>> <mailto:allco...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>&g

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-08 Thread Philip Thrift
rchal wrote: > > > On 3 May 2019, at 14:06, Quentin Anciaux > > wrote: > > Pleasure for the all loving god to have creatures to torture ? > > But the problem of evil is not that simple. > > > Indeed. > > But note that just the second theorem of Gödel pro

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-08 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
wrote: Pleasure for the all loving god to have creatures to torture ? But the problem of evil is not that simple. Indeed. But note that just the second theorem of Gödel provides a clue. With provable(p) written []p consistent(p) = ~provable(~p) = <>p f = false, t = true consistent = ~

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 May 2019, at 20:17, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/3/2019 8:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 3 May 2019, at 14:06, Quentin Anciaux >> <mailto:allco...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-06 Thread Lawrence Crowell
with the statement the Fischer-Griess Monster group is important. It is important for a quantum error correction code. Its connection to moonshine, say with the Brunier-Kent-Ono partition theorem etc, that the monster is associated with all realizable number theoretic computations. Quantum

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread Samiya Illias
لَا تَبْدِيلَ لِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ So direct your face toward the law, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah (separation) of Allah upon which He has created separated [all] humans. No change should there be in the creation

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/3/2019 8:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 3 May 2019, at 14:06, Quentin Anciaux <mailto:allco...@gmail.com>> wrote: Pleasure for the all loving god to have creatures to torture ? But the problem of evil is not that simple. Indeed. But note that just the second theorem

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
, cloud...@gmail.com wrote: By "heat" I just mean it as one studies it as a subject in a physics class, for example. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat> /Does all computati

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/3/2019 6:06 AM, John Clark wrote: /> Remembering God through prayer, and Praising God by repeatedly declaring that God is free from all imperfection, helps us to/[...] The religious believe that repeatedly declaring that God is sooo big and sooo strong and sooo super n

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
praise or our insults affect God in any way? Do you even realise how great the Creator of all this must be? Do you think God would need any appreciation from us? Rather, it is we who need to appreciate God! God created the entire creation and He governs it flawlessly according to His Laws

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 May 2019, at 14:06, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > Pleasure for the all loving god to have creatures to torture ? > > But the problem of evil is not that simple. Indeed. But note that just the second theorem of Gödel provides a clue. With provable(p) written []p consistent

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
eat the Creator of all this must be? After Gödel, we understand that we have no idea how the arithmetical is. It is beyond all effective theories. It requires axiom if infinities, and an infinity of them, to get a bit of light on it. > Do you think God would need any appreci

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread John Clark
ore flattery. Even ignoring the obvious logical contradiction, if that was a person's primary motivation (as it is for Trump for example) it would be considered very small minded, but for a omnipotent omniscient being it's utterly ridiculous. > > *Do you even realise how great the Creator

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread cloudversed
rote: >> >> >> >> By "heat" I just mean it as one studies it as a subject in a physics >> class, for example. >> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat >> >> *Does all computation generate heat?* >> >> (Should be a simp

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread Samiya Illias
, then life again, and then unto Him ye will return. He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things. And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Pleasure for the all loving god to have creatures to torture ? But the problem of evil is not that simple. Le ven. 3 mai 2019 à 12:46, smitra a écrit : > What's the point of creating criminals and then to torture those > criminals for eternity in hell? > > On 03-05-2019 04:41, S

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-03 Thread smitra
how great the Creator of all this must be? Do you think God would need any appreciation from us? Rather, it is we who need to appreciate God! God created the entire creation and He governs it flawlessly according to His Laws. The entire creation submits to His Laws, except some criminals

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
Considering how vast we have come to realise the Universe to be, do you honestly think our praise or our insults affect God in any way? Do you even realise how great the Creator of all this must be? Do you think God would need any appreciation from us? Rather, it is we who need to appreciate God

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 2 May 2019, at 13:59, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:54 AM 'Brent Meeker' > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > > Islam is a religion based almost entirely on threats. > > True, but in all fairness Christianity i

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
mean it as one studies it as a subject in a physics class, >> for example. >> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat> >> >> Does all computation generate heat? >> >> (Should be a simple enough question, I think.) > > Hmm… Not t

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-02 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:54 AM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > *Islam is a religion based almost entirely on threats.* > True, but in all fairness Christianity is also based on threats. It preaches that faith (believing in something when there is

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
uffering severe, and We shall most certainly requite them >> according to the worst of their deeds! >> [Al-Quran 41:27, Translator: Muhammad Asad] >> >> Erasing data generates heat?!!! >> Pondering over the above quoted ayat along with the ayaat that inform us >

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
ayaat that inform us that all words and deeds are being recorded, and that Allah never does any injustice to anyone, I wonder ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread Samiya Illias
! [Al-Quran 41:27 <https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/41/27/>, Translator: Muhammad Asad] Erasing data generates heat?!!! Pondering over the above quoted ayat along with the ayaat that inform us that all words and deeds are being recorded, and that Allah never does any injustice to anyone, I

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread cloudversed
On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 11:30:20 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 May 2019, at 10:56, cloud...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > By "heat" I just mean it as one studies it as a subject in a physics > class, for example. > - https://en.wikipedia.or

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
This is the most random affirmation that someone can make in a discussion about consciousness. It is so random that it is useless to say that qualia do exist. And qualia are observer-absolutes, since when I see red, I see red. You cannot come to me and tell me that I see blue. On the other

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
I just mean it as one studies it as a subject in a physics class, for example. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat> /Does all computation generate heat?/ / / (Should be a simple enough question, I think.) - @philipthrift -- Y

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 1 May 2019, at 10:56, cloudver...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > By "heat" I just mean it as one studies it as a subject in a physics class, > for example. > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat> > > Does

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
ipedia.org/wiki/Heat /Does all computation generate heat?/ / / (Should be a simple enough question, I think.) - @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fro

Re: Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat > > *Does all computation generate heat?* > > (Should be a simple enough question, I think.) > > - @philipthrift > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubsc

Does all computation generate heat?

2019-05-01 Thread cloudversed
By "heat" I just mean it as one studies it as a subject in a physics class, for example. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat *Does all computation generate heat?* (Should be a simple enough question, I think.) - @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are

Re: Interpretive cards (MWI, Bohm, Copenhagen: collect ’em all)

2018-02-18 Thread agrayson2000
Great discussion. Thanks for posting it. Much of it above my head. But I take solace in the observation that it's above the head of the participants as well! AG On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 3:30:04 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: > > Scott Aaronson has an interesting blog entry on quantum

Re: Interpretive cards (MWI, Bohm, Copenhagen: collect ’em all)

2018-02-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
sonian or Heraclitean than I thought, and more Parmenidien and Hindouist or buddhist (some school), and I think now that enlightenment = (Löbian => Universal). Only the differentiation of consciousness create time, but consciousness can live in an undifferentiated highly dissociative st

Re: Interpretive cards (MWI, Bohm, Copenhagen: collect ’em all)

2018-02-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
No interpretation is really physics. These are more in a way metaphysics. They are not consistent with each other and yet they are commensurate with quantum mechanics. This means they are auxiliary. They generally can be lumped into two categories, those that are ψ-epistemic and those that are

Re: Interpretive cards (MWI, Bohm, Copenhagen: collect ’em all)

2018-02-11 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
t up a large-scale > interference experiment on our own brains, or any other conscious > entities?" > > I think the idea that consciousness depends on full participation in the > arrow of time -- namely, the irreversible formation of memories -- is > something that need t

Interpretive cards (MWI, Bohm, Copenhagen: collect ’em all)

2018-02-11 Thread Bruce Kellett
Scott Aaronson has an interesting blog entry on quantum interpretations: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3628 He seems somewhat conflicted over which interpretation to believe. "Anyway, as I said, MWI is the best interpretation if we leave ourselves out of the picture. what would

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-03 Thread meekerdb
On 4/3/2015 6:00 PM, LizR wrote: On 3 April 2015 at 04:13, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Switzerland is a special case. Their army is structured in a weird way. All men up to a certain age are technically in the army and are actually obliged

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-03 Thread LizR
On 3 April 2015 at 04:13, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Switzerland is a special case. Their army is structured in a weird way. All men up to a certain age are technically in the army and are actually obliged to have a weapon and keep it in their home. We are talking about

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-03 Thread LizR
fantasising. There are undoubtedly such people in all societies - my point is that enabling them to easily buy Uzis is probably a bad idea if you want to avoid these rampages. Home 3D-printed guns are at the prototype level at the moment. Both the designs and 3D printing technology will keep

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-02 Thread Telmo Menezes
likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing, while toddlers killed five, all by accidentally shooting a gun. Because all those guns make you safer... Guns can be very dangerous, but like drugs

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-02 Thread Telmo Menezes
, all by accidentally shooting a gun. Because all those guns make you safer... Guns can be very dangerous, but like drugs there is no way to stop people from obtaining them. It's already possible to 3D print one, and this technology will only improve from now on. So how does every other

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-02 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
, 2015 8:06 pm Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close! From: spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
, while toddlers killed five, all by accidentally shooting a gun. Because all those guns make you safer... Guns can be very dangerous, but like drugs there is no way to stop people from obtaining them. It's already possible to 3D print one, and this technology will only improve from now

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread Alberto G. Corona
And, by the way, all the Cuban sponsored terrorism is an itellectual product of the aggresive secularistic fanaticism incubated in the western universities, with a marxist of post-marxist background (it is the same). This is the fanaticism from which bot of you are victims. There is also a great

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread Alberto G. Corona
All these movements are in the orbit of Cuba and Venezuela as well as with ties with islamism. The basque terrorists in the 70s trained together with the Palestinian terrorists LPO (in the valley of the Becca) and with argelian communists. Please be informed. In the other side nobody says

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
We have here a case of selective memory. Brevik was indeed a Nazi (no surprise there) but you do notice that all his victims were Norwegian socialists? His motive was revenge against his fellow countrymen, not Muslims living in Norway, which he could have easily attacked. It's impossible

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
wrote: So how does every other country in the world manage to have less guns per person than the USA? Magic? For one thing they're poorer. The number of households with a gun is far smaller than the number of guns. What, all other countries are poorer than the US? Of course

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2015 5:48 PM, LizR wrote: By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun lovers always say - but anyone can get hold of one if they really want to! I'd say ...really want to! is a big loophole in that assertion. Unless - gasp - most people don't actually want to!

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
On 2 April 2015 at 13:58, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/1/2015 5:48 PM, LizR wrote: By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun lovers always say - but anyone can get hold of one if they really want to! I'd say ...really want to! is a big loophole in that

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread meekerdb
? For one thing they're poorer. The number of households with a gun is far smaller than the number of guns. What, all other countries are poorer than the US? Of course not. I'm just pointing out one of the factors. Some, like Switzerland, are richer...and have a higher percentage of households

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2015 8:30 PM, LizR wrote: On 2 April 2015 at 13:58, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/1/2015 5:48 PM, LizR wrote: By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun lovers always say - but anyone can get hold of

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread meekerdb
, LizR wrote: So how does every other country in the world manage to have less guns per person than the USA? Magic? For one thing they're poorer. The number of households with a gun is far smaller than the number of guns. What, all other countries

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread Russell Standish
own manually operated rifles or shotguns up to .303 calibre 2) Other people could own guns, but they must be kept at a licensed shooting range at all times. Possibly a handgun may have been allowed under those circumstances. 3) Handguns could not be owned at all, unless made inoperable by having

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread meekerdb
? For one thing they're poorer. The number of households with a gun is far smaller than the number of guns. What, all other countries are poorer than the US? Of course not. I'm just pointing out one of the factors. Some, like Switzerland

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
the number of guns. What, all other countries are poorer than the US? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close! In his long rambling manifesto he spoke -- much like you do in fact Mitch

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
the USA? Magic? For one thing they're poorer. The number of households with a gun is far smaller than the number of guns. What, all other countries are poorer than the US? Of course not. I'm just pointing out one of the factors. Some, like Switzerland, are richer...and have a higher

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun lovers always say - but anyone can get hold of one if they really want to! Unless - gasp - most people don't actually want to! (Or can't, but that does seem unlikely). I've never wanted one myself, nor have I known anyone who's

RE: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto G. Corona Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 AM To: everything-list Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close! All these movements are in the orbit of Cuba

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread meekerdb
a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing, while toddlers killed five, all by accidentally shooting a gun. Because all those guns make you safer... Guns can be very dangerous, but like drugs there is no way to stop people from

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing, while toddlers killed five, all by accidentally shooting a gun. Because all those guns make you safer... Guns can be very dangerous, but like drugs there is no way to stop people from obtaining them. It's already

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing, while toddlers killed five, all by accidentally shooting a gun. Because all those guns make you safer... Guns can be very dangerous, but like drugs there is no way to stop

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread LizR
five, all by accidentally shooting a gun. Because all those guns make you safer... Guns can be very dangerous, but like drugs there is no way to stop people from obtaining them. It's already possible to 3D print one, and this technology will only improve from now on. So how does every other

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-04-01 Thread meekerdb
, this isn't rocket science... In 2013, it was more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing, while toddlers killed five, all by accidentally shooting a gun

RE: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-03-31 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Regarding the subject of terrorism here is an eye opening article that quantifies it and gives a different perspective on it than is usually presented in the military industrial complex owned mass media. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-03-31 Thread LizR
I hope that isn't an April Fool! Well, this isn't rocket science... In 2013, it was more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing, while toddlers killed five, all by accidentally shooting a gun

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-03-31 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' wrote: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.” How many times have you heard that one? Once. Why don’t we see

Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!

2015-03-31 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close! On Tue, Mar 31, 2015  'Chris de Morsella' wrote:  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Eh You asked me to explain my position better. If you say that you already knew that, That is fantastic. My answer is against the ones that think that something is better than something other based on some simple factors. And use it to discard as flawed the process that consider all the factors

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread meekerdb
To whom was this a reply? Brent On 3/19/2015 11:55 AM, LizR wrote: As far as I know evolutionary advantage means favouring the replication of a specific trait (or the genes underlying it) over competing traits. The simplistic reasoning of an ignorant is the reasoning of Charles Darwin and

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
good or bad for what circunstances and for what unit of evolution in what amount of time? . If I say sexual reproduction is bad, because, mitosis is a delicate process that may fail and produce many problems. cloning is better because it is simpler. therefore natural selection do it wrong

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread LizR
As far as I know evolutionary advantage means favouring the replication of a specific trait (or the genes underlying it) over competing traits. The simplistic reasoning of an ignorant is the reasoning of Charles Darwin and Richard Dawkins - that evolution acts on the individual in the first case,

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
that is not scientific, but something in the tradition of the idealistic rationalism in the Hegelian sense: All that I imagine that is rational must be real and true. This point of view is closed to learning new knowledge and thus, anti-scientific 2015-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
, Mar 19, 2015 12:24 pm Subject: Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all By the way number 2: The theory of evolution is the most biased name for natural selection. Theory of tradition would have been a better name by far. Since practically 100% of the traits are inherited from

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread LizR
of that are present in a pervasive process extended in space and time such is natural selections is an engineer (leftist) point of view that is not scientific, but something in the tradition of the idealistic rationalism in the Hegelian sense: All that I imagine that is rational must be real and true

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
By the way number 2: The theory of evolution is the most biased name for natural selection. Theory of tradition would have been a better name by far. Since practically 100% of the traits are inherited from generation to generation Theory of evolution is not only biased, but ideologically biased

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-18 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 01:08:05PM +1300, LizR wrote: Damn it, I've often cited this as an example of unintelligent design and now the creationists get the last laugh. Oh well that's science! http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-purpose-of-our-eyes-strange-wiring-is-unveiled The

Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-18 Thread LizR
Damn it, I've often cited this as an example of unintelligent design and now the creationists get the last laugh. Oh well that's science! http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-purpose-of-our-eyes-strange-wiring-is-unveiled -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-18 Thread LizR
Yeah, I wondered about noctural animals. Also, they say: This is a long-standing puzzle, even more so since the same structure, of neurons before light detectors, exists in all vertebrates, showing evolutionary stability. Which also strikes me as suspect since it could just be not worth correcting

Re: Looks like this isn't a spandrell after all

2015-03-18 Thread meekerdb
On 3/18/2015 5:08 PM, LizR wrote: Damn it, I've often cited this as an example of unintelligent design and now the creationists get the last laugh. Oh well that's science! http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-purpose-of-our-eyes-strange-wiring-is-unveiled I don't think you need to

All kids are born scientists

2014-11-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LelNYqVEOZQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: Half of all stars may exist outside of galaxies!

2014-11-09 Thread LizR
On 9 November 2014 06:34, zibb...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah weird. I know what I think it is but it's too different worldview for the same language. Not being mystical. that said harry potter is a personal friend and I've been on platform 8 1/2 9 and 3/4 I think I've been there too, on King's

Re: Do all forces derive from repulsionattraction?

2014-10-31 Thread Kim Jones
. Science is about putting your personal prejudices, beliefs and convictions to one side as the topic is examined from a variety of viewpoints. You do argument all the time because it is the only way you have ever learnt to do thinking amongst a group of people. You see a dialectic process as a kind

Re: Do all forces derive from repulsionattraction?

2014-10-31 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Agreement and disagreement are not aspects of real thinking. So if I assume you do real thinking then I must conclude that you don't agree with what you wrote above. you seek to find a logical contradiction as a

Re: Do all forces derive from repulsionattraction?

2014-10-31 Thread PGC
participating in the argument none of whom ever admit that this is really what is happening. That's not science. Science is about putting your personal prejudices, beliefs and convictions to one side as the topic is examined from a variety of viewpoints. You do argument all the time because

Re: Do all forces derive from repulsionattraction?

2014-10-31 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 PGC multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: I don't care to engage John anymore No NO, anything but that! I'm bored of this business. Then goodby, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are

Re: Do all forces derive from repulsionattraction?

2014-10-31 Thread Kim Jones
On 1 Nov 2014, at 1:22 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: Agreement and disagreement are not aspects of real thinking. So if I assume you do real thinking then I must conclude that you don't agree with what you wrote above. you seek to find a logical contradiction as a

Re: Do all forces derive from repulsionattraction?

2014-10-31 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
on the way out. John K Clark -Original Message- From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Oct 31, 2014 3:51 pm Subject: Re: Do all forces derive from repulsionattraction? On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 PGC multiplecit

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