I don´t believe in anything that SCIAM says except in hard sciences. And
event in that I have my doubts
These kind of publications lost their credibility time ago. Well, and many
pseudoscience departments
in the universities. They are nothing but propaganda organs driven by power
and money
Well
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:09 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
As mentioned in another thread, the media have (as it were) blown the
Islamic threat up out of all proportion. Climate change is a FAR greater
threat to civilisation than ISIS will ever be.
That is true. It is also true that ISIS
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:37:36AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Russell Standish
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that isn't an April Fool!
Well, this isn't rocket science...
In 2013, it was more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a
terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon
bombing,
Bruno Marchal wrote:
If just one physical law cannot be deduced from them, it means that
computationalism is false, and that consciousness requires something
else (God, primitive actual matter, or something that we just not yet
conceive).
I would like to see just one non-trivial physical
On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:05, LizR wrote:
On 1 April 2015 at 03:58, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 30 Mar 2015, at 02:57, LizR wrote:
On 29 March 2015 at 21:04, Bruce Kellett
bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
As you see, I believe in physicalism, not in Platonia. And I have
not
On 31 Mar 2015, at 17:48, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 30 Mar 2015, at 22:28, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 30 Mar 2015, at 10:06, LizR wrote:
On 30
On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:35, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 Mar 2015, at 07:42, Bruce Kellett wrote:
In a phrase I have used before, It did not spring forth fully
armed, like Athena from Zeus's brow. Numbers were a hard-won
abstraction from everyday physical reality. They do
Sure, Chris.
But there comes a time to wake up and smell the coffee. Your psychoanalysis is
flattering but irrelevant in a world of rifles and car bombs. You don't agree
with what I have said, but what about the behavior of your middle eastern
compadres? Speak to what the Uma says (to each
On 1 April 2015 at 22:18, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:05, LizR wrote:
Well, no, there is no TOE that describes all features of the physical
universe yet.
But if comp is true, there is. If comp is true, the theory with the axioms
Kxy = x + Sxyz = xy(zy),
And, by the way, all the Cuban sponsored terrorism is an itellectual
product of the aggresive secularistic fanaticism incubated in the western
universities, with a marxist of post-marxist background (it is the same).
This is the fanaticism from which bot of you are victims.
There is also a great
On 01 Apr 2015, at 03:02, Russell Standish wrote:
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 07:28:51AM +0100, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
The ab asurdo is showing computationalism is incompatible with
physical
supervenience, not that it is true. In the end by being forced to
accept
consciousness must supervene
All these movements are in the orbit of Cuba and Venezuela as well as with
ties with islamism. The basque terrorists in the 70s trained together with
the Palestinian terrorists LPO (in the valley of the Becca) and with
argelian communists.
Please be informed.
In the other side nobody says that
Hi Liz,
Yes, this is quite exciting, more so than Watson or Deep Blue because it
tries to be more generic.
The latest wave of excitement seems to come from Google's Deep Mind. Here's
a paper about it, with some videos you can see even without paying:
2015-04-01 9:46 GMT+02:00 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:37:36AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:40, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
If just one physical law cannot be deduced from them, it means that
computationalism is false, and that consciousness requires
something else (God, primitive actual matter, or something that we
just not yet conceive).
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
I have always disagreed with this. The movie+broken
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-03-31 12:11 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-03-31 10:37 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On
On 01 Apr 2015, at 04:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/31/2015 6:58 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 Mar 2015, at 07:17, Bruce Kellett wrote:
So I would reject the computationalist program right at the start
-- I would not say Yes, doctor to that sort of AI program.
Nor do
On 01 Apr 2015, at 03:58, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 Mar 2015, at 07:17, Bruce Kellett wrote:
So I would reject the computationalist program right at the start
-- I would not say Yes, doctor to that sort of AI program.
Nor do I.
That is why I say that my definition
As the bedouins say, The dogs bark but the caravan moves on. Meh!
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To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, Mar 31, 2015 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Life in the Islamic State
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:35, Bruce Kellett wrote:
I don't think that your arguments that consciousness cannot be
understood in terms of physical supervenience are very convincing. At
all the crucial points you simply appeal to the computationalist
hypothesis -- your
On 01 Apr 2015, at 09:46, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:37:36AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Wed, Apr
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Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 12:24 AM
To: everything-list
Subject: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: Economic inequality
I don´t believe in anything that SCIAM says except in hard
On 31 Mar 2015, at 04:28, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
step zero is when you either do or don't agree that, if a doctor
replaced your brain with an electronic version that exactly
duplicated the computations (hypothetically)
On 30 Mar 2015, at 19:02, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
That true. in the MWI we don't say that, but even if we did the
statement would not be gibberish it would just turn out to be wrong.
But in the copying machine world I will see
On 31 Mar 2015, at 04:20, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
You talk like if there was an insuperable difficulty brought by
the duplication.
Engineering difficulties only, scientific breakthroughs would not be
required to make a matter
We have here a case of selective memory. Brevik was indeed a Nazi (no surprise
there) but you do notice that all his victims were Norwegian socialists? His
motive was revenge against his fellow countrymen, not Muslims living in Norway,
which he could have easily attacked. It's impossible to
On 1 April 2015 at 20:35, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
The way to fight terrorism is to not be afraid of it.
Well, exactly. In practice the War on Terror has mainly been a
convenient excuse for western governments to increase their powers
substantially, so one wonders who they
On 2 April 2015 at 13:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 5:05 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 13:02, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 4:47 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 11:41, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 3:19 PM, LizR
On 4/1/2015 5:48 PM, LizR wrote:
By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun lovers always say -
but anyone can get hold of one if they really want to!
I'd say ...really want to! is a big loophole in that assertion.
Unless - gasp - most people don't actually want to!
On 2 April 2015 at 13:58, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 5:48 PM, LizR wrote:
By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun lovers
always say - but anyone can get hold of one if they really want to!
I'd say ...really want to! is a big loophole in that
Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:48:47AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I still don't see what MGA pumps intuitively and incorrectly, as you seem
to assume that MGA is bad intuition pump, rather than good one that
facilitates seeing something tricky. You've not shown
meekerdb wrote:
On 4/1/2015 10:42 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:48:47AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I still don't see what MGA pumps intuitively and incorrectly, as
you seem
to assume that MGA is bad intuition pump, rather than good
On 4/1/2015 4:47 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 11:41, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 4/1/2015 3:19 PM, LizR wrote:
So how does every other country in the world manage to have less guns
per
person than the USA? Magic?
For
On 31 March 2015 at 15:28, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
step zero is when you either do or don't agree that, if a doctor
replaced your brain with an electronic version that exactly duplicated the
computations
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:03 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 8:34 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:48:47AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I still don't see what MGA pumps intuitively and incorrectly, as you
seem
to assume that MGA is bad
Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
mailto:li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 01:50:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
OK, but so you agree that MGA shows that if comp is true, matter is
On 4/1/2015 8:30 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 13:58, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 4/1/2015 5:48 PM, LizR wrote:
By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun
lovers always
say - but anyone can get hold of
On 4/1/2015 10:42 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:48:47AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I still don't see what MGA pumps intuitively and incorrectly, as you seem
to assume that MGA is bad intuition pump, rather than good one that
facilitates
On 4/1/2015 5:05 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 13:02, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 4/1/2015 4:47 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 11:41, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 3:19 PM,
LizR wrote:
Yes lots of people have said something like that (including me) but the
time aspect is addressed in Bruno's argument. (Come to think of it you
more or less addressed it yourself by commenting about block universes.
A computation can run in a block universe, after all, in the
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:49:56PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
Sure there are obviously cultural and legal differences too. I was
in Sydney on the day of the Port Arthur massacre. I gathered that,
before that, personal ownership of guns in Australia was fairly
common and not much regulated. It
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:48:47AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I still don't see what MGA pumps intuitively and incorrectly, as you seem
to assume that MGA is bad intuition pump, rather than good one that
facilitates seeing something tricky. You've not shown that consciousness
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:03:49PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
There must be something more to it than just complexity or even
Turing universality. Bruno says human-like consciousness requires
Lobianity. But I think that's asking for more than just awarenss;
it's asking for self-awarness. If I
Yes lots of people have said something like that (including me) but the
time aspect is addressed in Bruno's argument. (Come to think of it you more
or less addressed it yourself by commenting about block universes. A
computation can run in a block universe, after all, in the important sense
-
On 4/1/2015 8:34 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:48:47AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I still don't see what MGA pumps intuitively and incorrectly, as you seem
to assume that MGA is bad intuition pump, rather than good one that
facilitates seeing something
On 2 April 2015 at 06:17, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
In practice Communism was evil but in theory it was just stupid
Almost as stupid as capitalism, which is currently delivering 99% of the
world into slavery and destroying the planet at a rate of knots.
In practice, Communism has
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
In practice Communism was evil but in theory it was just stupid
Almost as stupid as capitalism,
The defining characteristic of stupid is that stupid doesn't work, so
regardless of what you may personally think of capitalism's ethics (and
Ah yes, I thought he had Buddhist leanings.
On 2 April 2015 at 13:31, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited
in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as
something separate from the rest. A
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Apr 2015, at 03:58, Bruce Kellett wrote:
The digital simulation of brain functions is achieved on a physical
computer after all, which is a physical object itself -- simulating
(primitive) physical processes.
Assuming a physical object, which I do not (nor do I
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 09:27:16AM -0400, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Russell,
This is because academics, worldwide, tend toward the left, and they tend to
it like a religion, but its more an ideology. An ideology being a faith
movement. In the US, the academics (nominally all
A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited
in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as
something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of
consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to
our personal
On 4/1/2015 5:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 13:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 4/1/2015 5:05 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 13:02, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 4:47 PM,
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 04:12:05PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote:
meekerdb wrote:
But data /*rate */can't be the right measure, since the same
sequence of states measured against some other clock would be just
as conscious. It must be complexity of brain processes as
compared to some other
On 2 April 2015 at 11:41, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 3:19 PM, LizR wrote:
So how does every other country in the world manage to have less guns
per person than the USA? Magic?
For one thing they're poorer. The number of households with a gun is
far smaller than
From: spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!
In his long rambling manifesto he spoke -- much like you do in fact Mitch, of a
On 2 April 2015 at 13:02, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 4:47 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 11:41, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 3:19 PM, LizR wrote:
So how does every other country in the world manage to have less guns
per person than the
By the way, Brent, your comment directly contradicts what the gun lovers
always say - but anyone can get hold of one if they really want to!
Unless - gasp - most people don't actually want to! (Or can't, but that
does seem unlikely). I've never wanted one myself, nor have I known anyone
who's
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 01:50:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
OK, but so you agree that MGA shows that if comp is true, matter is
of no use, unless we admit that a complex experience like a human
dream can
If the Chinese room is conscious (on the systems argument I think) that
might just be another way of eliminating consciousness, something Dennett
likes to do. I'm not sure if it is or not...
On 2 April 2015 at 16:34, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto G. Corona
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:53 AM
To: everything-list
Subject: Re: Are all terrorrists Muslim? Not even close!
All these movements are in the orbit of Cuba and
On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:33, LizR wrote:
On 1 April 2015 at 22:18, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:05, LizR wrote:
Well, no, there is no TOE that describes all features of the
physical universe yet.
But if comp is true, there is. If comp is true, the theory with
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
sometime its who you are silent about that is an indictment.
Yes, and today I would say that moderate Muslims are guilty of that,
assuming that such creatures actually exist and are not as mythical
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:18 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Life in the Islamic State for women
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List
On Wednesday, 1 April 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marc...@ulb.ac.be'); wrote:
On 31 Mar 2015, at 17:48, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 30 Mar 2015, at 22:28, Stathis Papaioannou
On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:51, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:35, Bruce Kellett wrote:
I don't think that your arguments that consciousness cannot be
understood in terms of physical supervenience are very convincing.
At all the crucial points you simply
On 3/31/2015 10:56 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
*From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *meekerdb
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:26 PM
*To:* EveryThing
*Subject:* [SPAM]Re: Economic inequality
The SciAm article
And how many were massacred by the evil regime of Hirohito in China and the
POW-camps (both genders)? (not to mention his war against the USA in the
Pacific).
The war in VietNam is an ignorance of our historians: Kennedy wanted to
punish any 'commis' in general and ignorantly attacked the
On 4/1/2015 12:50 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com
mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that isn't an April Fool!
Well, this isn't rocket science...
In 2013, it was more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than
a
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 April 2015 at 22:18, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marc...@ulb.ac.be'); wrote:
On 01 Apr 2015, at 02:05, LizR wrote:
Well, no, there is no TOE that describes all features of the physical
This news has gotten remarkably little coverage. So for those who
have not heard:
Project Ozma failed. Project Durin succeeded. It turned out SETI
(the Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence) was looking in the
wrong direction all along. It was looking up when it should have
been looking
Yes, I think everyone should get their April fools in in good time, so us
Australasians can appreciate them.
Still, thank god we can stop worrying about climate change...
On 2 April 2015 at 10:24, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
Thank goodness someone still pulls April fools
On 4/1/2015 2:24 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
Thank goodness someone still pulls April fools jokes. Actually, this
is the first one I've seen this year, and it is now the 2nd of April
here in Sydney!
Cheers
That's what happens when you wait for the Americans to produce all your
entertainment.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
You talk like if there was an insuperable difficulty brought by the
duplication.
Engineering difficulties only, scientific breakthroughs would not be
required to make a matter duplicating machine; however when such machines
From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com
Yes, I think everyone should get their April fools in in good time, so us
Australasians can appreciate them.
Still, thank god we can stop worrying about climate change...
I always suspected that the most honorable Senator Inhofe was really actually,
a
On 1 April 2015 at 20:50, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that isn't an April Fool!
Well, this isn't rocket science...
In 2013, it was more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a
terrorist. In
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 01:50:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
OK, but so you agree that MGA shows that if comp is true, matter is
of no use, unless we admit that a complex experience like a human
dream can supervene on a very simple trivial activity. Then the MGA
intuition pump seems to
On 2 April 2015 at 08:45, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/1/2015 12:50 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that isn't an April Fool!
Well, this isn't rocket science...
In 2013, it was more likely Americans would be
Thank goodness someone still pulls April fools jokes. Actually, this
is the first one I've seen this year, and it is now the 2nd of April
here in Sydney!
Cheers
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 01:38:07PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
Forwarded Message
Remember all that stuff we told you
On 4/1/2015 12:30 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
I don't think it's impossible to prove comp true. If comp were not true then it would be
possible to make partial zombies.
I think that's the inference we're arguing. It's certainly not obvious to me.
If partial zombies are possible then
On 1 April 2015 at 20:23, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
I don´t believe in anything that SCIAM says except in hard sciences. And
event in that I have my doubts
These kind of publications lost their credibility time ago. Well, and many
pseudoscience departments
in the
On 4/1/2015 2:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Progress haev been made, until Aristotle metaphysics has been imposed through violence,
for 1500 years,
A lot more violence was motivated by the Platonic view that this world is an illusion and
everyone's actions must be guided by their anticipated
Forwarded Message
Remember all that stuff we told you about 97% of scientists agreeing that climate change
was real? And all those sad polar bears hanging off of icebergs? And all the dire warnings
about catastrophic sea-level rise?
We just learned that none of it is true.
On 4/1/2015 2:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Well, no, there is no TOE that describes all features of the physical universe
yet.
But if comp is true, there is. If comp is true, the theory with the axioms Kxy = x +
Sxyz = xy(zy), or elementary arithmetic HAVE TO describe all feature of the
Liz, do not forget that the 'lower' flat ~10% means 1000 times the wealth
of the average family,
the lately surpassed ~20% *2000 times of the AVERAGE possession of US
FAMILIES*.
(Example: a specialty worker with ~$50.000 pay owns a house and chattel -
say $60-70.000
total value and a retirement
Even Svalbard appears to have less guns per head than the USA, and there
you're actually legally obliged to carry one whenever you leave town!
On 2 April 2015 at 11:19, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 April 2015 at 20:50, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at
Yeah.. For about hmm Dozens of microseconds ... you had me... On the 2nd!
I experienced the qualia ... that frisson of misplaced credulousness that an
old fart like me needs every now and then
Cheers
Colin
-Original Message-
From: Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
Sent:
here comes the sun in the spring and here comes the warmist guys again
2015-04-01 22:38 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
Forwarded Message
Remember all that stuff we told you about 97% of scientists agreeing that
climate change was real? And all those sad polar
On 4/1/2015 3:19 PM, LizR wrote:
On 1 April 2015 at 20:50, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com
mailto:lizj...@gmail.com
wrote:
I hope that isn't an April Fool!
Well, this
From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comhere comes the sun in the
spring and here comes the warmist guys again
And here comes Alberto getting all hot under the collar again; even when people
are just fooling around on the first day of April... imagine that!
2015-04-01 22:38 GMT+02:00
Interesting point. What we are experiencing whether intentional of de facto, is
the progressives siding with radical Muslims against their home nations. They
make excuses for the radical islamists and in academia, try to bend opinion in
the islamists favor. They would have been called Fifth
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