[FairfieldLife] FYI: Nokia Maps for iPhone and Android, also!

2011-07-15 Thread cardemaister

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[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))

2011-07-15 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 LOL..Barry nowadays is a real pathetic caricature of his glorious
 bullying past with all the begging, he seems to caught the Vaj bug who
 similarly begs all newcomers for research on the evils of TM.

 Any newcomer joining this list must start feeling uncomfortable like
 they are entering downtown SF, hope Rick and the moderators start a
 policy on panhandling.


Make this cyber panhandling, I demand some rules for cyber panhandling.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@
 wrote:
 
  Since I agree with the TMO requirement to keep mantras private, I
 really shouldn't be doing this. However I have decided for my last
post
 this week to reveal Barry's private mantra. He may try to deny it, but
 here it is:
 
  WA!!!
 





[FairfieldLife] Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread cardemaister

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[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...

2011-07-15 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 These days, claims of higher states of consciousness don't bother me
 much. I find them entertaining and try not to judge. I like to tell
 people: I think I'm tall but as the wife says If  you're going to
lie
 about something, why pick something so easy to  disprove

 Bob - Despite the sarcasm I say bullshit - I sense lot of discomfort
and
 passive aggressive behavior on your part with the E label - may be
you
 should stay within the H (humor) territory and not venture towards
the
 E , I don't think you have completely undressed from your old
clothes
 yet - I really do enjoy your humor though.



And yeah like the wife would say - check the mirror darling..LOL..






[FairfieldLife] Re: FYI: Nokia Maps for iPhone and Android, also!

2011-07-15 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 Nokia Maps for iPhone and Android mobile
 devices:
 
 m.maps.ovi.com


Just noticed that might be much more accurate than Google!
At least in the country side...



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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Ron Paul: Debt Ceiling Betrayal

2011-07-15 Thread WLeed3


 
  

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[FairfieldLife] Check out Don't Ask, Don't Tell: Obama Administration Asks 9th Circuit Court

2011-07-15 Thread WLeed3
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8599547/UFOs-spotted-over-London.html


Yes, it's on my list of 10 best videos of UFO's. On the list of the 5 best is 
this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GPIPONMB8



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj


On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:46 PM, sparaig wrote:

However, what I meant by there's alpha and then there's alpha is  
a reference to the specific pattern(s) that show up during TM,  
especially during the pure consciousness state.



Alleged pure consciousness state. I don't believe anyone accepts that  
metaphysical speculation except TM folks - esp. since we now have a  
much clearer idea of what the EEG of samadhi looks like and what it's  
physiological results are at the cellular level. Sadly, it has not  
been seen in TM so far.

[FairfieldLife] UFO spotted in Sao Paulo

2011-07-15 Thread nablusoss1008
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj


On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:48 PM, sparaig wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:


 On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, sparaig wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson  
ameradian2@ wrote:

  [...]
   Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There  
is much I still have to learn about TM, but also about the members  
here.� Still it has been heuristically useful for me to say the  
least!� �

 
  Um
 
  I note that you not only confused me with someone else but you  
never bothered to respond to my links to research on stuff...

 
  Gotta wonder.


 I believe he is deeply familiar with meditation research in general.


Those aren't meditation research in general studies. Those are  
studies on a specific state found within TM and apparently not  
elsewhere. At least, I can't find any reference to breath  
suspension [or synonyms] and meditation except the TM research.



It turned out to be insignificant, except of course to TM researchers  
who want to believe the apnea episodes are significant. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj


On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, sparaig wrote:

One of the pitfalls, or one of the most important aspects of the  
difference between TM and what you think is proper?


Name and form: namarupa.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Check out Don't Ask, Don't Tell: Obama Administration Asks 9th Circuit Court

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Pall
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[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))

2011-07-15 Thread seventhray1


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  Priorities.


Obviously this issue of whether one is enlightened (or not), or whether
one proclaims to be enlightened (or not) is a high priority for you. I
think this falls into the Buck category of whether one actually lives in
Fairfield (or not), and whether one is a practicing meditator (or not). 
I'm not really sure if you can convince others make this into a
priority.  But by all means, keep up the campaign.



[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))

2011-07-15 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:

 Barry, what in the world are you talking about. Do you think I care if
 anyone proclaims themself to be enlightened? Really, I don't thing
 anyone cares about it except you. You sound like Judy wanting everyone
 to take a stand on an issue you deem to be of vital importance.

Wish to clarify.  There was a time when I felt Judy exhibited this
tendency, but not so much now.  Even with this latest dust up, over the
Friedman E-mails, it is a matter between her and Curtis without, (as
far as I can see) her trying to draw others into her POV.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Bastille Day You F'ing Rich!

2011-07-15 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 I see a guillotine in your future!
 
 IOW, those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. ;-)
 
 (Inspired by Mike Malloy's rap tonight.)


Did you really mean, Happy Bastille Day you F'ing Thieves?





[FairfieldLife] Is Meditation the Push-up for the Brain?

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj
Is Meditation the Push-up for the Brain?
July 14th, 2011 in Psychology  Psychiatry


(Medical Xpress) -- Two years ago, researchers at UCLA found that  
specific regions in the brains of long-term meditators were larger  
and had more gray matter than the brains of individuals in a control  
group. This suggested that meditation may indeed be good for all of  
us since, alas, our brains shrink naturally with age.

Now, a follow-up study suggests that people who meditate also have  
stronger connections between brain regions and show less age-related  
brain atrophy. Having stronger connections influences the ability to  
rapidly relay electrical signals in the brain. And significantly,  
these effects are evident throughout the entire brain, not just in  
specific areas.

Eileen Luders, a visiting assistant professor at the UCLA Laboratory  
of Neuro Imaging, and colleagues used a type of brain imaging known  
as diffusion tensor imaging, or DTI, a relatively new imaging mode  
that provides insights into the structural connectivity of the brain.  
They found that the differences between meditators and controls are  
not confined to a particular core region of the brain but involve  
large-scale networks that include the frontal, temporal, parietal and  
occipital lobes and the anterior corpus callosum, as well as limbic  
structures and the brain stem.

The study appears in the current online edition of the journal  
NeuroImage.

Our results suggest that long-term meditators have white-matter  
fibers that are either more numerous, more dense or more insulated  
throughout the brain, Luders said. We also found that the normal  
age-related decline of white-matter tissue is considerably reduced in  
active meditation practitioners.

The study consisted of 27 active meditation practitioners (average  
age 52) and 27 control subjects, who were matched by age and sex. The  
meditation and the control group each consisted of 11 men and 16  
women. The number of years of meditation practice ranged from 5 to  
46; self-reported meditation styles included Shamatha, Vipassana and  
Zazen, styles that were practiced by about 55 percent of the  
meditators, either exclusively or in combination with other styles.

Results showed pronounced structural connectivity in meditators  
throughout the entire brain's pathways. The greatest differences  
between the two groups were seen within the corticospinal tract (a  
collection of axons that travel between the cerebral cortex of the  
brain and the spinal cord); the superior longitudinal fasciculus  
(long bi-directional bundles of neurons connecting the front and the  
back of the cerebrum); and the uncinate fasciculus (white matter that  
connects parts of the limbic system, such as the hippocampus and  
amygdala, with the frontal cortex).

It is possible that actively meditating, especially over a long  
period of time, can induce changes on a micro-anatomical level, said  
Luders, herself a meditator.

As a consequence, she said, the robustness of fiber connections in  
meditators may increase and possibly lead to the macroscopic effects  
seen by DTI.

Meditation, however, might not only cause changes in brain anatomy  
by inducing growth but also by preventing reduction, Luders said.  
That is, if practiced regularly and over years, meditation may slow  
down aging-related brain atrophy, perhaps by positively affecting the  
immune system.

But there is a but. While it is tempting to assume that the  
differences between the two groups constitute actual meditation- 
induced effects, there is still the unanswered question of nature  
versus nurture.

It's possible that meditators might have brains that are  
fundamentally different to begin with, Luders said. For example, a  
particular brain anatomy may have drawn an individual to meditation  
or helped maintain an ongoing practice — meaning that the enhanced  
fiber connectivity in meditators constitutes a predisposition towards  
meditation, rather than being the consequence of the practice.

Still, she said, Meditation appears to be a powerful mental exercise  
with the potential to change the physical structure of the brain at  
large. Collecting evidence that active, frequent and regular  
meditation practices cause alterations of white-matter fiber tracts  
that are profound and sustainable may become relevant for patient  
populations suffering from axonal demyelination and white-matter  
atrophy.

But, Luders said, more research is needed before taking meditation  
into clinical trial studies.

Other authors of the study included Kristi Clark, Katherine L. Narr  
and Arthur W. Toga.

Provided by University of California Los Angeles


Is meditation the push-up for the brain?. July 14th, 2011. http:// 
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[FairfieldLife] Republican methods for winning national power resemble CIA techniques for destabilizing an enemy country

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj

Making the US Economy ‘Scream’

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destabilizing an enemy country — through the use of black propaganda,  
political skullduggery and economic disruptions. Now, heading toward  
Election 2012, the Republicans appear poised to make the U.S. economy  
“scream,” observes Robert Parry.


By Robert Parry

June 3, 2011

Modern Republicans have a simple approach to politics when they are  
not in the White House: Make America as ungovernable as possible by  
using almost any means available, from challenging the legitimacy of  
opponents to spreading lies and disinformation to sabotaging the  
economy.


Over the past four decades or so, the Republicans have simply not  
played by the old give-and-take rules of politics. Indeed, if one  
were to step back and assess this Republican approach, what you would  
see is something akin to how the CIA has destabilized target  
countries, especially those that seek to organize themselves in  
defiance of capitalist orthodoxy.


To stop this spread of “socialism,” nearly anything goes. Take, for  
example, Chile in the early 1970s when socialist President Salvador  
Allende won an election and took steps aimed at improving the  
conditions of the country’s poor.


Under the direction of President Richard Nixon and Secretary of State  
Henry Kissinger, the CIA was dispatched to engage in psychological  
warfare against Allende’s government and to make the Chilean economy  
“scream.”


U.S. intelligence agencies secretly sponsored Chilean news outlets,  
like the influential newspaper El Mercurio, and supported “populist”  
uprisings of truckers and housewives. On the economic front, the CIA  
coordinated efforts to starve the Chilean government of funds and to  
drive unemployment higher.


Worsening joblessness could then be spun by the CIA-financed news  
outlets as proof that Allende’s policies didn’t work and that the  
only choice for Chile was to scrap its social programs. When Allende  
compromised with the Right, that had the additional benefit of  
causing friction between him and some of his supporters who wanted  
even more radical change.


As Chile became increasingly ungovernable, the stage was set for the  
violent overthrow of Allende, the installation of a rightist  
dictatorship, and the imposition of “free-market” economics that  
directed more wealth and power to Chile’s rich and their American  
corporate backers.


Though the Allende case in Chile is perhaps the best known example of  
this intelligence strategy (because it was investigated by a Senate  
committee in the mid-1970s), the CIA has employed this approach  
frequently around the world. Sometimes the target government is  
removed without violence, although other times a bloody coup d’etat  
has been part of the mix.


Home to Roost

So, it is perhaps fitting that a comparable approach to politics  
would eventually come home to roost in the United States, even to the  
point that some of the propaganda funding comes from outside sources  
(think of Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Times and Australian media  
mogul Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.)


Obviously, given the wealth of the American elites, the relative  
proportion of the propaganda funding is derived more domestically in  
the United States than it would be in a place like Chile (or some  
other unfortunate Third World country that has gotten on Washington’s  
bad side).


But the concept remains the same: Control as much as possible what  
the population gets to see and hear; create chaos for your opponent’s  
government, economically and politically; blame if for the mess; and  
establish in the minds of the voters that their only way out is to  
submit, that the pain will stop once your side is back in power.


Today’s Republicans have fully embraced this concept of political  
warfare, whereas the Democrats generally have tried to play by the  
old rules, acquiescing when Republicans are in office with the goal  
of “making government work,” even if the Republicans are setting the  
agenda.


Unlike the Democrats and the Left, the Republicans and the Right have  
prepared themselves for this battle, almost as if they are following  
a CIA training manual. They have invested tens of billions of dollars  
in a propaganda infrastructure that operates 24/7, year-round, to  
spot and exploit missteps by political enemies.


This vertically integrated media machine allows useful information to  
move quickly from a right-wing blog to talk radio to Fox News to the  
Wall Street Journal to conservative magazines and book publishing.  
Right-wing propagandists are well-trained and well-funded so they can  
be deployed to all manner of public outlets to hammer home the  
talking points.


When a Democrat somehow does manage to get into the White House,  
Republicans in Congress (and even in the Courts) are 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...

2011-07-15 Thread Bob Price
For old time's sake



From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:07:22 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...


  
These days, claims of higher states of consciousness don't bother me
much. I find them entertaining and try not to judge. I like to tell
people: I think I'm tall but as the wife says If  you're going to lie
about something, why pick something so easy to  disprove

Bob - Despite the sarcasm I say bullshit - I sense lot of discomfort and
passive aggressive behavior on your part with the E label - may be you
should stay within the H (humor) territory and not venture towards the
E , I don't think you have completely undressed from your old clothes
yet - I really do enjoy your humor though.
Ravi my
man,
 
Your
insights are always appreciated,
saves me
asking the wife what her
opinion
is. Should I state the obvious?
All
aggressive behaviour,on a
forum
like this,
is passive in nature.
 
And if
being different is what gets you
through
the night, not to worry-I'm OK
with that.
But as your friend, I need
to mention
that boring the hell out
of people
can wreak havoc onrelationships.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 Thanks Curtis,Â
 Â
 I'm pleased that someone thinks my voice
 trainingÂ
 is showing results.
 Â
 I knew Robin by reputation till he began
 posting on FFL. During his hay day I was as far from the TMO and
Big
 GÂ as I think one could get. But I still knew people in theÂ
movement,
 although I think they thought of me as more of a heavy un-dresser than
 a friend. There was no shortage of wankers claiming CC or
 GCÂ when I was all in. It took years for me to understand the
 reason they made me so
 angry- was that they were forcing me to look
 more closely at Big M and more importantly at my own motivations
 for thinking of someone as my guru. When I heard about
Robin I
 felt he was something different. From his story I felt he was
a real
 artist. IOM, only an artist would look the TMO and MaharishiÂ
straight in
 the eye and push all his chips onto roulette red. Although I'm a
 businessman, I have nothing but affection for artists. That might
explain
 my enjoyment of yours and Turqs posts. No matter what else
Robin is I
 will always think of him as an artist.
 Â
 These days, claims of higher states of
 consciousness don't bother me much. I find them entertaining and try
not to
 judge. I like to tell people: I think I'm tall but as the wife says
 If you're going to lie about something, why pick something so easy to
 disprove.Â
 Â


 
 From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:30:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely
different...


 Â
 Hey Bob,

 Thanks for the heads up, it looks great and I've put in on my Netflix
cue right after International Co-ed Jello Wrestling Showdown
Extravaganza Championship (The one with the NR rating)  I love that you
movie was described as Emotional and Dark, right up my alley.

 I neglected to thank you for having my back in a few exchanges here.
Much appreciated.  I am enjoying the fact that you can post
simultaneously wacky and profound which is the style I am a big fan of.

 BTW how do you know Robin?  Only from the board?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
 
  Curtis,
 
  Thank you for this. The wife, recently, made me watch Rabbit Hole.
 
  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rabbit_hole/
 
 
  Without I hope-spoiling anything, I feel, it might be a topical
  story in relation to some of your exchanges with Robin.
  On one level, it's a story about unbearable loss, the kind you
eitherÂÂ
  learn to deny or adopt as a presence, an other in your
  life, but never free yourself from.
 
  But on another level-it seemed to be saying:
  The question is not-Does God exist, but rather if he didn't
  exist-we'll have to invent him.
 
  I guess, what I liked about the film was that the writer(s) seemed
toÂÂ
  have no compulsion to resolve the uncertainty, the doubt. IOM,
  this is always the best type of writing.
 
  The character of the teenage boy is closest to the person I'd like
ÂÂ
  to be. The acting is consistently good, but the actor playing this
boyÂÂ
  shows more grief in a look than I knew was possible.
 
  If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend.
 
  PS: I'm hoping Bill will be up for some exchanges on early
  Christianity. ÂÂ
 
 
 
 
 
  
  From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:09:26 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] And now for something completely
different...
 
 
  ÂÂ
  An Austrian atheist has won the right to be shown on his
driving-license photo wearing a pasta strainer as religious headgear.
 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Republican methods for winning national power resemble CIA techniques for destabilizing an enemy country

2011-07-15 Thread obbajeeba
Edward Bernays would have dealt with this a bit different? LOL.

quote[The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and 
opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who 
manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government 
which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are 
molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never 
heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society 
is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if 
they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every 
act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our 
social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively 
small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns 
of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public 
mind.]unquote
– Edward Bernays (1891-1995), Propaganda (1928).


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 Making the US Economy `Scream'
 
 Exclusive: Over the past several decades, Republican methods for  
 winning national power have come to resemble CIA techniques for  
 destabilizing an enemy country — through the use of black propaganda,  
 political skullduggery and economic disruptions. Now, heading toward  
 Election 2012, the Republicans appear poised to make the U.S. economy  
 scream, observes Robert Parry.
 
 By Robert Parry
 
 June 3, 2011
 
 Modern Republicans have a simple approach to politics when they are  
 not in the White House: Make America as ungovernable as possible by  
 using almost any means available, from challenging the legitimacy of  
 opponents to spreading lies and disinformation to sabotaging the  
 economy.
 
 Over the past four decades or so, the Republicans have simply not  
 played by the old give-and-take rules of politics. Indeed, if one  
 were to step back and assess this Republican approach, what you would  
 see is something akin to how the CIA has destabilized target  
 countries, especially those that seek to organize themselves in  
 defiance of capitalist orthodoxy.
 
 To stop this spread of socialism, nearly anything goes. Take, for  
 example, Chile in the early 1970s when socialist President Salvador  
 Allende won an election and took steps aimed at improving the  
 conditions of the country's poor.
 
 Under the direction of President Richard Nixon and Secretary of State  
 Henry Kissinger, the CIA was dispatched to engage in psychological  
 warfare against Allende's government and to make the Chilean economy  
 scream.
 
 U.S. intelligence agencies secretly sponsored Chilean news outlets,  
 like the influential newspaper El Mercurio, and supported populist  
 uprisings of truckers and housewives. On the economic front, the CIA  
 coordinated efforts to starve the Chilean government of funds and to  
 drive unemployment higher.
 
 Worsening joblessness could then be spun by the CIA-financed news  
 outlets as proof that Allende's policies didn't work and that the  
 only choice for Chile was to scrap its social programs. When Allende  
 compromised with the Right, that had the additional benefit of  
 causing friction between him and some of his supporters who wanted  
 even more radical change.
 
 As Chile became increasingly ungovernable, the stage was set for the  
 violent overthrow of Allende, the installation of a rightist  
 dictatorship, and the imposition of free-market economics that  
 directed more wealth and power to Chile's rich and their American  
 corporate backers.
 
 Though the Allende case in Chile is perhaps the best known example of  
 this intelligence strategy (because it was investigated by a Senate  
 committee in the mid-1970s), the CIA has employed this approach  
 frequently around the world. Sometimes the target government is  
 removed without violence, although other times a bloody coup d'etat  
 has been part of the mix.
 
 Home to Roost
 
 So, it is perhaps fitting that a comparable approach to politics  
 would eventually come home to roost in the United States, even to the  
 point that some of the propaganda funding comes from outside sources  
 (think of Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Washington Times and Australian media  
 mogul Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.)
 
 Obviously, given the wealth of the American elites, the relative  
 proportion of the propaganda funding is derived more domestically in  
 the United States than it would be in a place like Chile (or some  
 other unfortunate Third World country that has gotten on Washington's  
 bad side).
 
 But the concept remains the same: Control as much as possible what  
 the population gets to see and hear; create chaos for your opponent's  
 government, economically and politically; blame if for the mess; and  
 establish in the minds of the voters that their only 

[FairfieldLife] Marco is the mahaasiddha of drummers??

2011-07-15 Thread cardemaister

Well, at least technically?

drummerworld.com/Videos/marcominnemannbasel1.html



[FairfieldLife] Steve Bhaerman did the lyrics on this one! LOL

2011-07-15 Thread obbajeeba
If I only had a Bank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8vJRo0VaGk



Re: [FairfieldLife] Indian lunch

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


 So much to my surprise yesterday when going to the health food store two
 miles away I noticed that the nearby strip mall now has an Indian
 restaurant.  So I decided to try it for lunch today.  The buffet though
 small was wonderful and priced at $8.   And the waiter brought fresh hot
 naan to the table which is something that other locations are lacking.
 And it tells you how much I pay attention to that strip mall as when I
 asked the restaurant has been open 10 months.



During my extended stay in the Charlotte area I've converted back to
lactating ovary vegetarian.  So, Indian food is once again of interest.
There's a large Indian population in NC because of high tech and buying the
cheapest labor you can get, of questionable quality or not.  There's a chain
in the South called Bombay Grill.  I'm about to go to one of the outlets for
lunch.   The food is a bit strange on the buffet (which is $8.95 M-F
including fresh hot naan brought to the table.  The cilantro soup I swear
has catsup in it, the raita has sweetener in it.  The food doesn't have the
fire I'm used to in Texas, but it's not bad, especially for the South.
This place plays Indian techno music most of the time (yuk) but a couple
days ago it was playing a bhagan, and I felt a lot more at home.  Anything
is preferable to Bollywood singing of Kirti, Kirti, Kirty that sounds like
it's being shrieked by a cat on a hot tin roof.

Better than FF?  Gotta be kidding me.  I don't know if it's the golden agers
or those who don't want to disturb their sattwa, but Indian food in FF is to
India as Mexican food in the Midwest is to Texas, Socal or Mexico.


RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:27 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

Yes, it's on my list of 10 best videos of UFO's. On the list of the 5 best
is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GPIPONMB8

Here's a closer look video of that one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFraqmkyC5gNR=1



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Bastille Day You F'ing Rich!

2011-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/15/2011 05:45 AM, obbajeeba wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 I see a guillotine in your future!

 IOW, those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. ;-)

 (Inspired by Mike Malloy's rap tonight.)

 Did you really mean, Happy Bastille Day you F'ing Thieves?

Malloy was talking about the Minnesota governor caving in to Republicans 
by not passing a measly 3% tax increase on the rich.   So Malloy started 
talking about what happened during the French Revolution and how many of 
the rich faced the guillotine.  If you look at an overview of what went 
on back then it is similar to what we're seeing now in the US.  
Something similar also brought the Bolshevik Revolution.  Both 
situations were where a small percentage of the rich owned most of the 
wealth.

I read recently where the rich in the US have been buying $250,000 guard 
dogs.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Meditation the Push-up for the Brain?

2011-07-15 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 (Medical Xpress) -- Two years ago, researchers at UCLA found that  
 specific regions in the brains of long-term meditators were larger  
 and had more gray matter than the brains of individuals in a control  
 group. 

Hold on there, that's a troubling finding. Health warning required?

Neanderthals looked much like modern humans... The brain case was
lower but longer housing a slightly larger brain than that of
modern humans http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Neanderthal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marco is the mahaasiddha of drummers??

2011-07-15 Thread pranamoocher
Ringo Starr would blow him away, no question!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:


 Well, at least technically?

 drummerworld.com/Videos/marcominnemannbasel1.html




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
L., no wonder I never saw it. I did not read any posts in this thread. Normally 
I don't read other threads here unless they pertain directly to meditation. I 
don't read the political ones, nor a variety of other threads. The e-mail you 
sent, and its relevancy, I think falls upon how you want to define TM. In your 
e-mail you are pressing the points based only on the meditative technique and 
the state of consciousness that it produces. Nevertheless, when viewed through 
the prism of religious scholarship, I think any scholar would see the TM 
organization is being profoundly steeped in Hinduism. There are so many points 
of contact between the TM organization and normative Hindu beliefs that I don't 
think anyone can really question that. Personally, I have always viewed 
Maharishi as being a perfectly orthodox Hindu, at least within his own Advaita 
tradition. By the way, my old TM teacher has told me that he thought that one 
day there would be a bifurcation of
 the organization. There would be a Western branch and an Indian branch. The 
Western branch would emphasize exactly the points that you have brought up here 
and no doubt divest itself of some of the more overt mystical and Hindu 
elements. The Indian branch, would of course, cloak itself in the garb of 
Hinduism, which is entirely appropriate. Anyway, I am sorry I missed this, but 
I didn't read any posts in this particular thread. Was this the particular link 
you were pointing out in your other post to me?
Cheers
Bill

From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 L., forgive me, but I went though my old posts, which had several from you 
 and none had any links for further research. Did I miss one of them? 
 Cheers
 Bill

Re: The Soul is extracted and judged by weight

An email I fired off recently might be of interest to you:

Dear Professor Brown,

I just finished reading your article, Doubt as Methodology and Object in the
Phenomenology of Religion, found in M/C Journal
http://www.journal.media-culture.org.au/index.php/mcjournal/article/viewArticle/\
334 ...

I'd like to present the TM theoretical take of the Vedic philosophy and ask
that you reconsider calling TM a religion, per se:

Rather than theories or beliefs about God, the Universe and Everything that are
strictly the product of the specific culture that they are found in, TM theory
asserts that these are cultural interpretations of states of consciousness that
are natural to humans, regardless of culture. TM theory further asserts that TM
is a technique (in the same sense that the Way that cannot be spoken is a
technique) that increases the probability that practitioners will enter into the
state of consciousness called turya -pure consciousness- in the Upanishads.
The theory further asserts that long-term practice of TM, alternated with normal
activity, leads to the situation called turyatita (quality of turya) where
turya is omni-present, in some sense, in the individual.

This theory is nothing new. You can find it, with minor variations, in various
places. E.G. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turiya

What IS unique to TM theory, however, are the assertions that:

1) turya is a physiological state of the brain in the Western scientific sense,
that can be measured using the tools of Western science;
2) that turyatita is likewise a measurable state;
3) that turya is the state of least stress in a resting nervous system;
4) the process of TM is merely a resting state of the nervous system that
repairs stress (note that obvious episodes of turya are NOT required for this
resting state to be effective --one can become fully enlightened according to
TM theory, without ever having a clear experience of turya during meditation, at
least prior to full enlightenment);
4) turyatita is merely a state in mature adults whose nervous systems are
sufficiently strong and mature due to lack of physiological stress that turya is
evident, even during waking, dreaming and sleeping.

this leads to the logical conclusion that turyatita is NOT some esoteric state,
and that the physiological signature of turya during meditation should more
likely appear, not only in long-term practitioners of TM contrasted with
non-meditating or short-term meditating controls, but also in non-meditators
whose success in life suggests that their nervous systems are very efficient,
e.g.: world champion athletes (as compared to non-champion professionals in the
same sport), professional classical musicians (as compared to amateur classical
musicians) and high-functioning business managers as compared to their less
successful counterparts.

Research on the physiological correlates of turya found during TM practice:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7045911
Breath suspension during the transcendental meditation 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
Thank you so much Emptybill. I wonder if you or Richard might be able to answer 
the following two questions. 1) Do Hindus who adhere to the Advaita tradition 
consider Shankara a shakta? 2) Do we know whether GuruDev  and MMY thought of 
their particular strand of Advaita as being fully within the shakti tradition? 
In short, would both men consider themselves, and Shankara, as shaktas?
Cheers
Bill

From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras


  
This could be a duplicate Yahoo post or maybe not.
Sorry but no troth with Yahoo.


Bill,
 
Contrary to what you might read, Shakti does not mean energy, as in 
electricity, but rather power. 
Shakti(power) carries none of our modern connotations of a strictly mechanistic 
force but rather points to what Shakta-s (shakti initiates) see as the 
intelligence(s) that actualize the cosmos and enact its unmanifest design. 
You seem to recognize that Shaktivada (shakti-ism) is a doctrine (-vada) that 
is quite separate from Advaita. It is a doctrine asserting that there is a 
universal power that manifests the cosmos and that it's actualizations are 
various all-constituting intelligences. Since these are intelligences, rather 
than insentient material forces, the further insight is that they are 
accessible to other intelligences (like us) and that there is a methodology for 
doing just this. That methodology is called Tantra and includes not only 
formulae for contacting these intelligences but also specific etiquettes for 
creating, maintaining and enhancing this contact. These intelligences are 
deva-s/devi-s … the numinous presences that constitute and animate our body, 
along with our sense powers, mental operations and the functions of 
consciousness (chitta).
All of these internal deva-s/devi-s are considered micro-processes of 
macro-intelligences that are massively awake and actively cognizant. They are 
the internal-external values that order, organize and interconnect the various 
subjective/objective strata of the universe. This, however, does not include 
Awareness (chit) which is a reality eulogized as Shiva, the auspicious One, the 
Presence-Awareness-Felicity that is the essence of all true identity.
Sounds abstract but that's the cliff notes version for dummies like me. You may 
find it a mere iteration of what you already know but it never hurts of hear it 
again.
 
Now I think I'll go have a beer.……


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 
 
 Richard and Emptybill: Given my rudimentary knowledge at this point I am 
 wondering if the both of you can clarify something. I went and looked up on 
 Wikipedia about Sri Vidya. I thought that the basic shakti doctrine was as 
 follows: Shiva is the static consciousness that pervades all things, while 
 shakti represents (envisioned in feminine form) the dynamic form of 
 consciousness. In essence, they have divided up the notion of Brahman. One is 
 pure consciousness, static in existence, while the other is pure 
 consciousness in its changeable phenomenal form? I thought all these divine 
 goddesses were simply a manifestation of shakti. Is that not correct?
 Cheers
 Bill  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Robert


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@ wrote:
  
   Nab, I do know how to pronounce my mantra, at least as it was told to me. 
   But what is here is different. Excuse my curiosity
   Cheers
   Bill 
   PS- My training was, after all, 11 years ago!!
  
  
  Stop this nonsense. 
  Either you listen to what the teacher says, or you choose to do someting 
  else. Simple.
 
 
 Many people believe that they MUST start thinking their mantra exactly the 
 same way every time. I think MY decided that if they didn't intuit from what 
 they were told that this was a bit anal, that it was counter-productive to 
 make the hints any stronger than they already are.
 
 But, I'll just say that after nearly 40 years of practicing TM, it takes 
 quite a bit of effort sometimes to remember exactly how my mantra was 
 pronounced when I was given it.
 
 Oh wait, TM is effortless... Did MMY lie or is there something to be learned 
 from the realization that attempting to remember a specific pronunciation 
 from 38 years ago is often extremely difficult?
 
 L

There is no need to remember the mantra with a specific pronunciation...that's 
not it at all...allow it to unfold naturally, and if you can't remember 
specific prounciation, don't worry about it...
A mantra is just a vehicle for transcending thought...
We pick up the mantra to transcend the mantra...
The objective of TM is to become familiar with the process of transcending 
thought, and the experience of pure consciousness when thought is transcended...
That's all there is to it; it's not necessary to complicate the procedure in 
any way...
Keep it as simple as possible...
TM teaches how to be 'effortless'...so when you find that you are sliding into 
effort, just let go, and be effortless...

R.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
Thank you so much Richard. I am learning a great deal from you and a number of 
other people on the forum. I asked both you, and Emptybill, two questions over 
on the e-mail I sent from Emptybill's reply. If you have the time please read 
it and see if you can cast some light on those two questions. Thank you again!
Cheers
Bill

From: richardjwilliamstexas willy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras


  


William Parkinson:
 Shiva is the static consciousness that pervades all 
 things, while shakti represents (envisioned in 
 feminine form) the dynamic form of consciousness...

The answer lies in the relationship of the Sri Vidya 
tradition and Kashmere Saivism. In the Shankaracharya 
tradition, Shankara was born at Kaladi, where he was 
a sort of child prodigy linguist, at an early age. 

Shankara went to study with Gaudapada, and then 
subsequently travelled to Kashi, and then to the Upper 
Kashi, where he founded the Jyotir Math and composed 
his commentary on 'Vedanta Sutra' and 'Bhagavad Gita'.

Shankara then traveled to Kashmere where he got the 
Sri Yantra and took it to Karnataka where he placed it 
on the altar and called the place Sringeri, after the 
Shakti. It was at Sringeri that Shankara composed the 
'Ode to the South Facing Form' and the 'Saundarylahari'.

According to Theos Bernard, Kashmere Saivism teaches 
that conciousness alternates between two phases, rest 
and action. You can easily see the relation to TM 
practice when you consider that this is almost exactly 
what MMY said at Squaw Valley!

The phase of transcendental rest is called 'Pralaya' 
in Sanskrit, which has no first beginning, therefore 
no primal cause. The world of matter is only another 
form of conciousness.

The Vedanta doctrine contends that there is only one 
ultimate reality which never changes; therefore the 
manifest world is an 'appearance' only, Maya.

Kashmere Saivism contends that there is only one 
reality, but it has *two aspects*. The manifestation, 
Maya, is real. This is based on the argument that the 
effect cannot be different from its cause.

However, according to the Siva Sutra, human logic can 
never construct an unassailable monism; the final 
proof can be had only by the experience of yogic 
samadhi, attained through mantric meditation.

Centering - An excerpt from the 'Bhairava Tantra', 
translated by Swami by Laksmanjoo:

7. Devi, imagine the Sanskrit letters in these 
honey-filled foci of awareness, first as letters, then 
more subtly as sounds, then as most subtle feeling. 
Then, leaving them aside, be free.

14. Bathe in the center of sound, as in the continuous 
sound of a waterfall. Or, by putting fingers in ears, 
hear the sound of sounds.

19. Intone a sound audibly, then less and less audible 
as feeling deepens into this silent harmony.

Read more:
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/centering.htm




[FairfieldLife] Re: Marco is the mahaasiddha of drummers??

2011-07-15 Thread cardemaister

I doubt that Ringo can play e.g. one hand roll (1:54) on the hi-hat
and snare drum simultaneously. But I'm sure he plays
rock'n roll better than Marco (Kansas City, Dizzy Miss
Lizzy, Rock'n Roll Music and stuff...)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher no_reply@... wrote:

 Ringo Starr would blow him away, no question!
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
  Well, at least technically?
 
  drummerworld.com/Videos/marcominnemannbasel1.html
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread johnt
If you look just before the upper object goes off screen you can see as the 
reflection changes the wings of the plane

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:27 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?
 
 Yes, it's on my list of 10 best videos of UFO's. On the list of the 5 best
 is this:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GPIPONMB8
 
 Here's a closer look video of that one:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFraqmkyC5gNR=1





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this: books on 
mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the mantra must be 
pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume because they believe that 
the mantra is some sort of sonic representation, if not sonic manifestation, of 
the deity. Yet in TM we are told the mantra might will change as we use it. And 
the mantra should ideally be a faint thought--not something clear and strong in 
our minds.This was part of my interest in this varient ways of saying the 
mantras.  
Cheers
Bill

From: Robert babajii...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@ wrote:
  
   Nab, I do know how to pronounce my mantra, at least as it was told to me. 
   But what is here is different. Excuse my curiosity
   Cheers
   Bill 
   PS- My training was, after all, 11 years ago!!
  
  
  Stop this nonsense. 
  Either you listen to what the teacher says, or you choose to do someting 
  else. Simple.
 
 
 Many people believe that they MUST start thinking their mantra exactly the 
 same way every time. I think MY decided that if they didn't intuit from what 
 they were told that this was a bit anal, that it was counter-productive to 
 make the hints any stronger than they already are.
 
 But, I'll just say that after nearly 40 years of practicing TM, it takes 
 quite a bit of effort sometimes to remember exactly how my mantra was 
 pronounced when I was given it.
 
 Oh wait, TM is effortless... Did MMY lie or is there something to be learned 
 from the realization that attempting to remember a specific pronunciation 
 from 38 years ago is often extremely difficult?
 
 L

There is no need to remember the mantra with a specific pronunciation...that's 
not it at all...allow it to unfold naturally, and if you can't remember 
specific prounciation, don't worry about it...
A mantra is just a vehicle for transcending thought...
We pick up the mantra to transcend the mantra...
The objective of TM is to become familiar with the process of transcending 
thought, and the experience of pure consciousness when thought is transcended...
That's all there is to it; it's not necessary to complicate the procedure in 
any way...
Keep it as simple as possible...
TM teaches how to be 'effortless'...so when you find that you are sliding into 
effort, just let go, and be effortless...

R.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
Thank you so much Ravi!! You have a very interesting story. And I can now see 
your inability to sleep for those periods is something quite different than 
what might happen in TM. If I understand you correctly, it seems as if you had 
too much energy. And later you crashed. It has some associative points of 
contact with manic-depressive states. I am just knowledgeable enough to know 
that kundalini-style yoga seems to emphasize moving energy around the various 
chakras. The problem in TM seems to be that the recognition within oneself of 
this silent innerlayer never leaves even during sleep. Your state was high 
energy, the TM state during sleep might be compared to a dimly lit candle-- but 
one nevertheless never goes out even during sleep. I am go thankful that you 
nshard this with me. I have a great awareness now of what happened to you and 
maybe it is also a cautionary tale against using this type of yoga in some 
cases. 
Cheers
Bill  

From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 Unlike Ravi, Jim, and perhaps Robin, I really find the whole notion of not 
 sleeping very troubling. 

Bill, I have to clarify that I mostly sleep like a log now, I did mention that 
I didn't sleep much for a few months during my Kundalini descension and 
explained that I believe now that it was an unnatural state since my body had 
decided it was under threat and probably never triggered the right chemicals 
that would let me fall asleep.

 In any event I want to make this my last post on the subject, given that it 
 has developed into some side issues that I never meant to dig    up. 

No worries - welcome to FFL, threads veer off in all different directions and 
several are hijacked for personal battles. Pretty soon you will be familiar 
with the opposing players and if need be either indulge or learn techniques to 
steer clear.

 Thx so much Barry. I took your admonishment seriously and I felt, and do 
 still feel, it was heartfelt. And yes you are right. I have taken them at 
 their word, even though I know this is such a subjective thing. Nevertheless, 
 even if they only got close to so-called 'Enlightenment' it is very 
 interesting to talk to them and see what state of mind they were in and what 
 effect it had on their personal lives. 

I have to clarify that I have never used the E word, I only share my 
experiencesin the hope it might help or inspire someone.In fact I frequently 
sometimes I think there's something wrong with me, my personal situation is 
messed up, there's lot of strife,struggle in the world, the problems require 
someone mature and responsible but yet here I am I feel blissed out for no 
reason and act in a silly playful manner like a child.

 Ravi, I would still be very interested in hearing what you have to say 
 concerning how, and in what way, these types of intense periods of 
 illumination has helped you.

I would have to first briefly describe these intense periods of illumination. 
Over a period of 7 years I went through a several stages which I would refer to 
as Kundalini ascension, each experience lasted a week or 2 where as the energy 
ascended to my head I noticed heightened sensitivity, intense emotions and 
toward the end, intense derealization  depersonalization ending in a powerful 
surge of energy that would leave me in an absolute dread and then boom it would 
be gone and I would sleep exhausted. The end phase almost happened in the night 
time with heightened senses as if on guard against an attack. I would return to 
normal consciousness the next day. 

I have to add a quick disclaimer here that I have never tried any psychedelic 
drugs or never been on any prescription medication ever. However the period 
above was followed by intense personal problems with my marriage, wanting to 
feel love and be loved, being in a emotionally abusive relationship.

I had a final intense one in 2009, however unlike the previous ones when I got 
up the next morning I was in intense bliss, as if intense blissful energy had 
entered in to me. This episode lasted 3 weeks and was one of the 2 episodes of 
Kundalini descension, the other one in April-May last year which everyone here 
is aware of because of my erratic behavior.The first in 2009 for 3 weeks and 
second for 6 weeks. Unlike the previous experiences which were very 
uncomfortable, this was pure bliss which increased in intensity, I felt as if 
energy was descending in droves, as each day progressed and at the end I went 
through a stage of psychosis which helped my body, mind, ego to make the 
transition. The state of psychosis was only a few hours during the first 
whereas in the second it was much intense and over a period of 5 days. After I 
hit the peak, the psychosis enabled me to survive, and it took me up to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Indian lunch

2011-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/15/2011 09:04 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Bhairitunoozg...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:

 So much to my surprise yesterday when going to the health food store two
 miles away I noticed that the nearby strip mall now has an Indian
 restaurant.  So I decided to try it for lunch today.  The buffet though
 small was wonderful and priced at $8.   And the waiter brought fresh hot
 naan to the table which is something that other locations are lacking.
 And it tells you how much I pay attention to that strip mall as when I
 asked the restaurant has been open 10 months.



 During my extended stay in the Charlotte area I've converted back to
 lactating ovary vegetarian.  So, Indian food is once again of interest.
 There's a large Indian population in NC because of high tech and buying the
 cheapest labor you can get, of questionable quality or not.  There's a chain
 in the South called Bombay Grill.  I'm about to go to one of the outlets for
 lunch.   The food is a bit strange on the buffet (which is $8.95 M-F
 including fresh hot naan brought to the table.  The cilantro soup I swear
 has catsup in it, the raita has sweetener in it.  The food doesn't have the
 fire I'm used to in Texas, but it's not bad, especially for the South.
 This place plays Indian techno music most of the time (yuk) but a couple
 days ago it was playing a bhagan, and I felt a lot more at home.  Anything
 is preferable to Bollywood singing of Kirti, Kirti, Kirty that sounds like
 it's being shrieked by a cat on a hot tin roof.

 Better than FF?  Gotta be kidding me.  I don't know if it's the golden agers
 or those who don't want to disturb their sattwa, but Indian food in FF is to
 India as Mexican food in the Midwest is to Texas, Socal or Mexico.

One of the popular places in the San Francisco area East Bay was an 
place that served tandoori chicken sandwiches.  They set up a second 
restaurant in Concord in the theater building.  Those sandwiches with 
chicken, special sauce in a naan were killer.  Unfortunately not killer 
enough for the mundane tastes of the locals so the place closed after a 
couple years.

The now overpriced south Indian restaurant there serves a killer butter 
chicken, the yogurt sauce variety not the tomato one.

The main difference I found between food in India and here was the rice 
is a bit different in India.  I found one restaurant in San Francisco 
just off Webster which had more authentic Indian food.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Indian lunch

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj


On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

The now overpriced south Indian restaurant there serves a killer  
butter

chicken, the yogurt sauce variety not the tomato one.

The main difference I found between food in India and here was the  
rice

is a bit different in India. I found one restaurant in San Francisco
just off Webster which had more authentic Indian food.



I've got some kick-ass recipes for homemade tandoori chicken/quail  
and butter chicken which will knock your socks off if you like Indian  
food. They're both done in a two-stage marinade, best done overnight  
- all homemade. It would take me a while to get them all typed in,  
but they've gotten rave reviews from friends who've had them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul

2011-07-15 Thread emptybill
Which Origen do you mean?

1. Origen Adamantius (ŌrigénÄs) the Christian Theologian
2. Origen the Pagan, student of Ammonius Saccus
and a contemporary of Plotinus?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Origen2.jpg
 Origen, missed. Cut him off at the pass

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
 
 
  To bad for you.
  You missed Plotinus and the other Platonists that
  followed him until Justinian closed the academy.
  No wonder you don't believe in this stuff.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of William Parkinson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:48 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

 

  

Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this: books on 
mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the mantra must be 
pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume because they believe that 
the mantra is some sort of sonic representation, if not sonic manifestation, of 
the deity. Yet in TM we are told the mantra might will change as we use it. And 
the mantra should ideally be a faint thought--not something clear and strong in 
our minds.This was part of my interest in this varient ways of saying the 
mantras.

 

The TM instructions explicit advise NOT trying to think or pronounce the mantra 
clearly: “Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation; just a faint idea.”

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote:

 If you look just before the upper object goes off screen you can see as the 
 reflection changes the wings of the plane


Do you really see a plane in the video at the bottom of this post ? If so I'd 
say you have a very vivid imagination ! :-)


  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?
  
  Yes, it's on my list of 10 best videos of UFO's. On the list of the 5 best
  is this:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GPIPONMB8
  
  Here's a closer look video of that one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFraqmkyC5gNR=1




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 Wilhelm Reich spent time in the SW US observing the UFO phenomenon there, and 
 he felt they were connected to desertification processes, whereby prana was 
 being depleted from the area. His son's biography The Book of Dreams has an 
 intersting first hand account of the experiments, where he demonstrates a 
 device to neutralize them.
 
 Sent from my iPad

Wilhelm Reich was a great seer who invented devices to store prana and was thus 
killed by the CIA because his major discovery could very effectively heal 
people in a natural way.
To suggest that Reich worked against the Space Brothers, if I understand you 
correctly, is utter nonsense.
 
 On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
  On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
  Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:27 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?
  
  Yes, it's on my list of 10 best videos of UFO's. On the list of the 5 best 
  is this:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GPIPONMB8
  
  Here’s a “closer look” video of that one: 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFraqmkyC5gNR=1
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Brand development (was A word from St. Paul)

2011-07-15 Thread Bob Price
Bill,
sorry about the length of this post, I'd like to say I wrote it right after my
first meditation, but the truth is I wrote it right after my first coffee. 
Blame it on Robin!
 
I
appreciate your willingness, to consider some exchanges on this topic. I
can cover 280 to 400 CE so between the two of us we have almost 600 years
to get us into trouble.
 
IOM, there
are many good storytellers on FFL. I believe one of the reasonsis that many 
here are comfortable with conflict, which I believe is
fundamental to good story telling.
 
Among
other things, Robin believes there is something out of balance with
Westerners following Eastern paths. As you can imagine, his position
brought a strong basis for conflict to his exchanges on this forum. I also
think he enjoyed the fact there are writers on FFL who know how
to develop a good argument (I exclude myself from this group as I just
like to *have* a good argument). Even the ones who only have time for
spitballs seem to add velocity to the real arguments. 
 
Whether we
can recapture the magic of the exchanges with Robin- I don't know. I
thought I'd start with a sweeping generalization or two and then ask you a
few leading questions. 
 
First,
call me a civil engineer or something, but I believe witharguments like Robin's 
you have to look at the founding of the Christian
church and what I see there is a weak foundational structure with major
cracks,
and a potential for soil liquefaction. Frankly, I don't see the same issueswith 
many Eastern traditions.
 
Second, to
touch on my change of subject line. If you're as shallow as I am and reduce
everything to its monetized brand value (half of the Oracle of Omaha's magic)
you might be forgiven for thinking the real trinity of the Roman Catholic Church
was
Jesus of
Nazareth, Paul the Apostle (who never met Jesus, equestrian skills aside) and
the
Emperor
Constantine. IOM, take one of these three out of the mix and no Christianity as
weknow it today. 
 
If some
Arabian magician gave me one wish to go back in time and meet one of these
threeit would be tempting to go back, and
hear Jesus give The Sermon on the Mount. But I haveto be
honest it would be more tempting to head back to the Milvian Bridge and
put a bullet in Constantine as he was designing the top of the Pope's
scepter. But after more thought, I'd have to choose to go back and run
interference of Paul. IMO, Paul was the Steve Jobs of my trinity and one of the
most if not thee influential individuals in history. 
 
A few
questions, I'll try to keep them pre 200 CE.
 
1. Is it
true Jesus lived and died as a practicing Jew?
2. Is it
true the 12 apostles also lived and died as practicing Jews?
3. Is it
true Paul was not a Jew?
3. Is it
true Paul came up with the Greek title Christ in his quest to baptize Greeks
and other non-Jews in the Roman Empire?
4. Is it true,
as a practicing Jew, Jesus never thought of himself as a Christ?
5. Is it
true the 12 apostles, appointed by Jesus, never called Jesus the Christ?
  
6. Is it
more accurate to call its Paul's church than Peter's- since the only thing left
related to Peter is the garbage dump, where Peter was crucified, given by
Constantine to the early Christians where St. Peters Basilica was build?
7. Is it
true that Peter and the other apostles, appointed by Jesus, were not at 
allconvinced that Jesus would have agreed with Paul's quest to baptize gentiles,
and specifically disagreedwith Paul's decision to forgo
circumcision (a required Jewish practice) which gentileswould never
have agreed to and if Paul had not dropped it as a requirement, could have 
stopped
his ministry and theglobalization of the teaching of Jesus right in its
tracks?
8. Would
you agree that the real antecedent for the film The passion of the
Christ is Alien or 
Texas
Chain Saw Massacre rather than The Last Temptation of Christ?
9. Would
you agree there has never been anything like crucifixion in the Jewish culture
and this was completely a Roman form of terror?
10. Is it
true (this is a 312-337 question so you can consider it a statement) it’s easy 
to
draw a direct line from Constantine-a rabid anti-semite, who established
Christianity as the official church of the Roman Empire (and arguably Europe), 
to
the Holocaust? 
 
I'm too
lazy to state sources as WillyTex does, please, just consider it a personal
polemic on Why I'm not a Christian (which I'm sure you know is a
title I stole from Bertrand Russell).  
 
 
.



From: William Parkinson ameradi...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:47:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul


  
Now I understand!! Well, my own expertise runs from 200 B.C.E. to 200 C.E.. My 
concentration and my doctoral program was in Early Christianity, Second Temple 
Judaism, and to a lesser degree Greco-Roman mystery cults (in particular, 
Mithras and Hekete). Once we get beyond 200 C.E., I fear I will be 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  Wilhelm Reich spent time in the SW US observing the UFO phenomenon there, 
  and he felt they were connected to desertification processes, whereby prana 
  was being depleted from the area. His son's biography The Book of Dreams 
  has an intersting first hand account of the experiments, where he 
  demonstrates a device to neutralize them.
  
  Sent from my iPad
 

 Wilhelm Reich was a great seer who invented devices to store prana and was 
 thus killed by the CIA because his major discovery could very effectively 
 heal people in a natural way.
 To suggest that Reich worked against the Space Brothers, if I understand you 
 correctly, is utter nonsense.

To be more precise it was agents from the FBI who killed Reich, not the CIA.
 
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
Hi Emptybill. Adamantius, or as we refer to him Origen of Alexandria. All the 
Anti-Nicene fathers are sources in the study of Early Christianity.
Cheers
Bill 

 
AFrom: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul


  
Which Origen do you mean? 

1. Origen Adamantius (ÅŒrigénÄs) the Christian Theologian
2. Origen the Pagan, student of Ammonius Saccus
and a contemporary of Plotinus?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Origen2.jpg 
 Origen, missed. Cut him off at the pass 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
 
  
  To bad for you.
  You missed Plotinus and the other Platonists that
  followed him until Justinian closed the academy.
  No wonder you don't believe in this stuff.




[FairfieldLife] Summer food porn

2011-07-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
I'm gunna talk Summer.  Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise into your 
nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer. 

It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina peaches 
at a farmer's market.  The smell was intoxicating as every perfectly ripe fruit 
rose up and greeted me with the perfume of Summer.  For me trips to this market 
are church.  It is a communion with the season and nothing smells as good as 
the things in a farmer's market in the steamy season.  I'm a fan of all the 
seasons and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour 
a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body (well here you will 
have to put in the type of body you would like to see this drink streaming 
down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats Summer.  It's the heat baby.

I have my Summer rituals.  I plant a container garden of herbs with 12 kinds of 
Basil from all over the world.  I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch 
first when I cook in the Summer.  This is key because I am an heirloom tomato 
fanatic.  Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a 
percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up.  I found this olive oil 
with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something which costs as much 
as a bottle of good bourbon.  It is worth it because when you pour it on the 
sliced tomatoes it also rises up to meet your nose. The fresher the better with 
white wines and olive oil.  That's how I roll.  Then I shower the tomato slices 
with too much basil.  I say too much because I am not subtle about this.  I am 
basil rich and I revel in it.  Salt, pepper and here comes the airplane into 
the hanger.  That is a magical combination that only comes together at this 
time of year.  You can't do it in the Winter.  That green basil substitute they 
grow in greenhouses can't hold a candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves 
on my Greek Basil.  And if you have to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have 
read this far.

I associate eggplant with this season.  I layer them with perorino and 
mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use 
as an ingredient in lots of dishes.  Sometimes I sacrifice some tomatoes and of 
course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. 
(Again not subtle, I want to taste them!)  I might pour a can of crushed 
tomatoes over the top before topping it all with cheese.  Bake it hot 400 to 
brown the edges in a glass pan.  I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40 
minutes later.  Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash over the 
plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is one glorious mess.  
You can throw it on top of pasta if you want.  Top with the best olive oil you 
can find Mario Battali style and some more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I 
mean breath baby, this is Summer so fill your lungs.

I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one mixed white 
and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a butteriness to it.  I 
eat one of each alternating bites.  Each has been blessed with olive oil and 
salt and fresh ground pepper.  I know the purists eat it with nothing and some 
people eat it with butter, which I do too, but I usually stock fantastic 
butters in the Winter when I am craving heavier food so I don't have butter 
around in the Summer too often.  I do have lard that I rendered myself but I 
would never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an ear 
tonight.  It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and have a great 
life and one bad day, just like the rest of us.  Only theirs is accomplished by 
a pro and we will have to make do with whatever random crap comes our way to 
snuff out our life.  (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as 
well as people who prefer  their food porn without a dash of existential death 
reality check vinaigrette.  Sorry.)

So there are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that look like 
flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them?  You can put them in with 
the eggplant.  But the money shot is the melons.  Of course I am referring to 
lady's breasts pushing against the gauze-like fabric of Summer 
dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean melons this time.  Cantaloup that you 
can smell right through their patterned skin and of course the only fruit 
accused of being racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a 
snob and that goes against the yuppie trend for convenient everything.  Plus my 
farmer's market owner claims they are sweeter cuz when you mess with genetics 
you get what you ask for and if you ask for no pits sometimes the sweet gene 
goes too.  This is complete bullshit of course since I have had plenty of sweet 
seedless ones but I have to maintain my specialness somehow and if it isn't 
because I am growing in enlightenment then it has boiled 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
Exactly Rick. Which is not what some mantra works suggest. That is what I think 
is interesting. If these mantras are the 'sonic representations' of the deity, 
one would think they should be spoken, or thought inside, clearly and 
correctly. If that is so, then what are we to make of our TM way of not 
thinking it but faintly? What did MMY think of these mantras? Are they 
symbolic, or merely tools to allow us to go inside?  
Cheers
Bill

From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras


  
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of William Parkinson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:48 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
 
  
Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this: books on 
mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the mantra must be 
pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume because they believe that 
the mantra is some sort of sonic representation, if not sonic manifestation, of 
the deity. Yet in TM we are told the mantra might will change as we use it. And 
the mantra should ideally be a faint thought--not something clear and strong in 
our minds.This was part of my interest in this varient ways of saying the 
mantras.
 
The TM instructions explicit advise NOT trying to think or pronounce the mantra 
clearly: “Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation; just a faint idea.”
 


[FairfieldLife] Orgone

2011-07-15 Thread nablusoss1008


Orgone  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  Jump to: navigation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#mw-head , search
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#p-search
[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Croftpyramidcb.jpg/\
300px-Croftpyramidcb.jpg] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Croftpyramidcb.jpg
[http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/magnify-clip.png] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Croftpyramidcb.jpg A cloudbuster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudbuster : (seen at bottom, right of
center, not the sculpture) a device intended to influence weather,
supposedly by altering levels of atmospheric orgone.
Orgone energy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_(esotericism)  is an
idea which was proposed and promoted in the 1930s by psychoanalyst
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoanalyst  Wilhelm Reich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich , who originated the term
to describe a universal life force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalism .[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-kelley-0  The idea was
quickly discredited and dismissed.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-isaacs-1  The current
consensus of the scientific community is that orgone theory is
pseudoscience http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience .[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-dictionary-2 [4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-3 [5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-4

Reich, originally part of Sigmund Freud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud 's Vienna circle, believed
that Freud's concept of libido http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libido 
had an actual biological basis,[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-gardner-5  and developed
a therapeutic practice that was ostensibly designed to open up this
bodily energy in the belief—following Freud—that healthy
psychological state derived from uninhibited libidinal flow. This
biophysical theory eventually developed into the concept of orgone (a
word coined from the same root as organism and orgasm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm ): which Reich saw as a massless,
omnipresent substance, similar to luminiferous aether
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether , but more closely
associated with vital, living energy than inert matter. Orgone would
coalesce and create organization on all scales, from the smallest
microscopic units—called bions in orgone theory—to macroscopic
structures like organisms, clouds, or even galaxies.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-skeptic-6  Reich's
follower Charles R. Kelley went so far as to claim that orgone was the
creative substratum in all of nature, comparable to Mesmer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesmer 's animal magnetism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_magnetism , the Odic force
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odic_force  of Carl Reichenbach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Reichenbach  and Henri Bergson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Bergson 's élan vital
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lan_vital .[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-kelley-0  Reich believed
that many diseases, and particularly cancer, were caused by deficits or
constrictions in the flow of orgone in the body, and developed specially
designed orgone accumulators which supposedly charged the body with
orgone collected from the atmosphere.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-blumenfeld-7  These
devices were distributed as devices to improve general health and
increase sexual potency, and later were adopted into tools such as
cloudbusters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudbuster , devices
intended to stimulate rainfall.

Reich created the Orgone Institute after immigrating to the US, and
pursued research into orgone energy for more than a decade, publishing
his own work through the institute and producing orgone accumulators and
related devices for distribution. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Food_and_Drug_Administration  (FDA)
eventually obtained a federal injunction barring the interstate
distribution of orgone-related materials, on the charge that Reich and
his associates were making false and misleading claims. When Reich
violated the injunction he was jailed, and all orgone-related equipment
and literature owned by Reich and his associates were destroyed.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-about-8

Orgone is regarded by the National Center for Complementary and
Alternative Medicine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Complementary_and_Alte\
rnative_Medicine  as a type of putative energy, a model which some
therapists use for clinical procedures but which is untestable or defies
measurement.[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone#cite_note-9 
There is little or no support for the concept in the medical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine  and scientific
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_community  communities.[2]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Indian lunch

2011-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/15/2011 10:28 AM, Vaj wrote:

 On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 The now overpriced south Indian restaurant there serves a killer butter
 chicken, the yogurt sauce variety not the tomato one.

 The main difference I found between food in India and here was the rice
 is a bit different in India. I found one restaurant in San Francisco
 just off Webster which had more authentic Indian food.


 I've got some kick-ass recipes for homemade tandoori chicken/quail and 
 butter chicken which will knock your socks off if you like Indian 
 food. They're both done in a two-stage marinade, best done overnight - 
 all homemade. It would take me a while to get them all typed in, but 
 they've gotten rave reviews from friends who've had them.

Thanks, but don't do that for me.  I'm more a quick cooking kind of 
guy.  Mainly stir frying.  I leave the specialty dishes to restaurants.  
Besides I have to watch aggravating kapha. ;-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/14/2011 10:43 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 You have opened a whole can of worms here.  I've watched for years
 different tantra school argue over whether the beej mantras should
 have
 use the ng ending or the m ending.  They have slightly different
 effects as far as resonance patterns go.   And Indians given their
 nature will argue passionately over this, making the arguments on FFL
 look very wimpy (I'm sure Ravi will agree).

 Bhairitu - I have to plead ignorance in spite of being born a Brahmin,
 you and others seem to be more well versed and yeah lot of Indians for
 sure. However give me some Sanskrit slokas and I will chant it
 perfectly, comes naturally to me.

I wasn't talking about  the knowledge but how Indians love to argue.  
They really went at it on one forum over the ng and m endings.  And just 
wander over to the JyotishList on Yahoo.  There is often a brawl going 
on there. ;-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/14/2011 07:53 PM, emptybill wrote:
 This could be a duplicate Yahoo post or maybe not.
 Sorry but no troth with Yahoo.


 Bill,



 Contrary to what you might read, Shakti does not mean
 energy, as in electricity, but rather power.


Empty, have you ever given shaktipat?



[FairfieldLife] Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)

2011-07-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise
into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer.

It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina
peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every 
perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of 
Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion 
with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a 
farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons
and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a 
pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body 
(here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to
see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats 
Summer. It's the heat baby.

I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12
kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.)
I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in
the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. 
Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a
percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil 
with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something
which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it 
because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to 
meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive 
oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with
too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I 
am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the
airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only 
comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter.
That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a 
candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And 
if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read
this far.

I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and
mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the 
Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice
some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and 
fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste 
them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before 
topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a 
glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40
minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash 
over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is 
one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top 
with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some 
more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is
Summer so fill your lungs.

I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one 
mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a
butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been
blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the 
purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which
I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I am 
craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too often. I 
do have lard that I rendered myself but I would 
never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an 
ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and
have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only 
theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever 
random crap comes our way to snuff out our life.

(Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as 
people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death
reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.)

There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that
look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can
put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of
course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the  
gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean
melons this time. Cantaloup that you can smell right through
their patterned skin and of course the only fruit accused of being 
racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a snob and
that goes against the yuppie trend for convenient everything. Plus my
farmer's market owner claims they are sweeter cuz when you mess with
genetics you get what you ask for and if you ask for no pits
sometimes the sweet gene goes too. This is complete bullshit of
course since I have had plenty of sweet seedless ones but I have to
maintain my specialness somehow and if it isn't because I am growing
in enlightenment then it has boiled down to watermelon preference.
(Oh how the 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of William Parkinson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 1:22 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

 

  

Exactly Rick. Which is not what some mantra works suggest. That is what I think 
is interesting. If these mantras are the 'sonic representations' of the deity, 
one would think they should be spoken, or thought inside, clearly and 
correctly. If that is so, then what are we to make of our TM way of not 
thinking it but faintly? What did MMY think of these mantras? Are they 
symbolic, or merely tools to allow us to go inside?  

Cheers

Bill

 

Maharishi felt (old Rishikesh TTC tape I heard) that the mantras were a way to 
attune oneself to the deity, and that that was accomplished by transcending 
with them, not remaining on the gross level.

 

From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

  

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of William Parkinson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:48 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

 

  

Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this: books on 
mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the mantra must be 
pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume because they believe that 
the mantra is some sort of sonic representation, if not sonic manifestation, of 
the deity. Yet in TM we are told the mantra might will change as we use it. And 
the mantra should ideally be a faint thought--not something clear and strong in 
our minds.This was part of my interest in this varient ways of saying the 
mantras.

 

The TM instructions explicit advise NOT trying to think or pronounce the mantra 
clearly: “Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation; just a faint idea.”

 

 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
I like to use the workability criterion. Everything else is crap.
But the Ship of Theseus thought experiment has been helpful to me in mantra and 
related questions such as the puja. For example, (ref. an actual case): - 
somebody mentioned to MMY that he had replaced Guru Dev's picture with a pic of 
Jesus.  We can continue per the Ship of Theseus model and replace this and that 
until perhaps, we are left with mantras one can get out of a book.
In my experience, the most important factors are a. technique done properly, 
and b. the Shakti. My TM mantra has a distinct perceptible amount of Shakti, 
not possessed by mantras I've received from other (non TMO) Gurus.  So go 
figure.
...
SHIP OF THESEUS from Wiki:
According to Greek legend as reported by Plutarch,

The ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned [from Crete] had 
thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of 
Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as they decayed, putting 
in new and stronger timber in their place, insomuch that this ship became a 
standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of things 
that grow; one side holding that the ship remained the same, and the other 
contending that it was not the same.
—Plutarch, Theseus[1]
Plutarch thus questions whether the ship would remain the same if it were 
entirely replaced, piece by piece. Centuries later, the philosopher Thomas 
Hobbes introduced a further puzzle, wondering: what would happen if the 
original planks were gathered up after they were replaced, and used to build a 
second ship.[2] Which ship, if either, is the original Ship of Theseus?



 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of William Parkinson
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 1:22 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
 
  
 
   
 
 Exactly Rick. Which is not what some mantra works suggest. That is what I 
 think is interesting. If these mantras are the 'sonic representations' of the 
 deity, one would think they should be spoken, or thought inside, clearly and 
 correctly. If that is so, then what are we to make of our TM way of not 
 thinking it but faintly? What did MMY think of these mantras? Are they 
 symbolic, or merely tools to allow us to go inside?  
 
 Cheers
 
 Bill
 
  
 
 Maharishi felt (old Rishikesh TTC tape I heard) that the mantras were a way 
 to attune oneself to the deity, and that that was accomplished by 
 transcending with them, not remaining on the gross level.
 
  
 
 From: Rick Archer rick@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:32 AM
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
 
   
 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of William Parkinson
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:48 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
 
  
 
   
 
 Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this: books 
 on mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the mantra must 
 be pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume because they believe 
 that the mantra is some sort of sonic representation, if not sonic 
 manifestation, of the deity. Yet in TM we are told the mantra might will 
 change as we use it. And the mantra should ideally be a faint thought--not 
 something clear and strong in our minds.This was part of my interest in this 
 varient ways of saying the mantras.
 
  
 
 The TM instructions explicit advise NOT trying to think or pronounce the 
 mantra clearly: “Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation; just a 
 faint idea.”
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Bastille Day You F'ing Rich!

2011-07-15 Thread Mike Dixon
Let zim eat ze carrot cake!


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy Bastille Day You F'ing Rich!


  
I see a guillotine in your future!

IOW, those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. ;-)

(Inspired by Mike Malloy's rap tonight.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)

2011-07-15 Thread mainstream20016
A cornucopia of pleasure.
Bravo!  
-Mainstream

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise
 into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer.
 
 It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina
 peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every 
 perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of 
 Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion 
 with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a 
 farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons
 and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a 
 pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body 
 (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to
 see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats 
 Summer. It's the heat baby.
 
 I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12
 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.)
 I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in
 the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. 
 Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a
 percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil 
 with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something
 which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it 
 because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to 
 meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive 
 oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with
 too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I 
 am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the
 airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only 
 comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter.
 That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a 
 candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And 
 if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read
 this far.
 
 I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and
 mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the 
 Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice
 some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and 
 fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste 
 them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before 
 topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a 
 glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40
 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash 
 over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is 
 one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top 
 with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some 
 more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is
 Summer so fill your lungs.
 
 I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one 
 mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a
 butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been
 blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the 
 purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which
 I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I 
 am craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too 
 often. I do have lard that I rendered myself but I would 
 never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an 
 ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and
 have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only 
 theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever 
 random crap comes our way to snuff out our life.
 
 (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as 
 people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death
 reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.)
 
 There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that
 look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can
 put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of
 course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the  
 gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean
 melons this time. Cantaloup that you can smell right through
 their patterned skin and of course the only fruit accused of being 
 racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a snob and
 that goes against the yuppie trend for convenient everything. Plus my
 farmer's market owner claims they are sweeter cuz when you mess with
 genetics you get what you ask for and if you ask for no pits
 sometimes the sweet gene goes too. This is complete bullshit of
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread PaliGap


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 SHIP OF THESEUS from Wiki:
 According to Greek legend as reported by Plutarch,
 
 The ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned [from Crete] had 
 thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of 
 Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as they decayed, 
 putting in new and stronger timber in their place, insomuch that this ship 
 became a standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of 
 things that grow; one side holding that the ship remained the same, and the 
 other contending that it was not the same.
 —Plutarch, Theseus[1]
 Plutarch thus questions whether the ship would remain the same if it were 
 entirely replaced, piece by piece. Centuries later, the philosopher Thomas 
 Hobbes introduced a further puzzle, wondering: what would happen if the 
 original planks were gathered up after they were replaced, and used to build 
 a second ship.[2] Which ship, if either, is the original Ship of Theseus?
 

;-) Good question! And if we don't even understand what makes
for the identity of a 'thing', how are we to understand the 
identity of that which is closest to our heart, our selves?

It is said that every material part of our body is replaced
over so many years. So every material element of me-now
has changed from, say me-in-1970 (one might suppose).

Now as a thought experiment (for materialists), if it were
possible to re-combine the set of material elements that
comprised me-in-1970, who would exist? Two of me? if they 
met up in the pub for a pint or two, just who would be
looking at who?

Or is it just that identity is inexplicable under the
assumption of materialism?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:46 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  However, what I meant by there's alpha and then there's alpha is  
  a reference to the specific pattern(s) that show up during TM,  
  especially during the pure consciousness state.
 
 
 Alleged pure consciousness state. I don't believe anyone accepts that  
 metaphysical speculation except TM folks - esp. since we now have a  
 much clearer idea of what the EEG of samadhi looks like and what it's  
 physiological results are at the cellular level. Sadly, it has not  
 been seen in TM so far.


That assumes that what you are referring to is the real deal while what I am 
referring to is not.

What is fun about *my* real deal pure consciousness state is that it is found 
in self-actualizing non-meditators. Is yours?


L.



[FairfieldLife] ‪Zoran Josipovic on how meditation affects the brain - The Consciousness Chronicles Vol. 1‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-15 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azqqBVv2f0 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:48 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
  
   On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, sparaig wrote:
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson  
  ameradian2@ wrote:
[...]
 Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There  
  is much I still have to learn about TM, but also about the members  
  here.� Still it has been heuristically useful for me to say the  
  least!� �
   
Um
   
I note that you not only confused me with someone else but you  
  never bothered to respond to my links to research on stuff...
   
Gotta wonder.
  
  
   I believe he is deeply familiar with meditation research in general.
  
 
  Those aren't meditation research in general studies. Those are  
  studies on a specific state found within TM and apparently not  
  elsewhere. At least, I can't find any reference to breath  
  suspension [or synonyms] and meditation except the TM research.
 
 
 It turned out to be insignificant, except of course to TM researchers  
 who want to believe the apnea episodes are significant.


Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) that 
these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are not?

L.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig
Sorry, I thought I responded directly to you in that original posting. Shrug.

As for the rest, it is certainly possible though, I think that even MMY's 
nephew wants to maintain an aura of scientific respectability so the schism 
won't be near as obvious as you suggest.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 L., no wonder I never saw it. I did not read any posts in this thread. 
 Normally I don't read other threads here unless they pertain directly to 
 meditation. I don't read the political ones, nor a variety of other threads. 
 The e-mail you sent, and its relevancy, I think falls upon how you want to 
 define TM. In your e-mail you are pressing the points based only on the 
 meditative technique and the state of consciousness that it produces. 
 Nevertheless, when viewed through the prism of religious scholarship, I think 
 any scholar would see the TM organization is being profoundly steeped in 
 Hinduism. There are so many points of contact between the TM organization and 
 normative Hindu beliefs that I don't think anyone can really question that. 
 Personally, I have always viewed Maharishi as being a perfectly orthodox 
 Hindu, at least within his own Advaita tradition. By the way, my old TM 
 teacher has told me that he thought that one day there would be a bifurcation 
 of
  the organization. There would be a Western branch and an Indian branch. The 
 Western branch would emphasize exactly the points that you have brought up 
 here and no doubt divest itself of some of the more overt mystical and Hindu 
 elements. The Indian branch, would of course, cloak itself in the garb of 
 Hinduism, which is entirely appropriate. Anyway, I am sorry I missed this, 
 but I didn't read any posts in this particular thread. Was this the 
 particular link you were pointing out in your other post to me?
 Cheers
 Bill




[FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote:

 If you look just before the upper object goes off screen you can see as the 
 reflection changes the wings of the plane
 

Such FX are now possible on home computers using software that a good amateur  
could afford to purchase and learn to use.

L


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
  Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:27 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?
  
  Yes, it's on my list of 10 best videos of UFO's. On the list of the 5 best
  is this:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GPIPONMB8
  
  Here's a closer look video of that one:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFraqmkyC5gNR=1
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this: books 
 on mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the mantra must 
 be pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume because they believe 
 that the mantra is some sort of sonic representation, if not sonic 
 manifestation, of the deity. Yet in TM we are told the mantra might will 
 change as we use it. And the mantra should ideally be a faint thought--not 
 something clear and strong in our minds.This was part of my interest in this 
 varient ways of saying the mantras.  


I don't know if this is the ideal or just what happens for many people.

Setting up an ideal certainly sets one up to add effort.

Also, see my comment to Vaj: as the nervous system changes during meditation, 
the perception of the mantra may change as well. Does this mean the mantra 
changed, or only that the perception changed? How can you tell? Insomuch as TM 
is about rest, then worrying about such things is counter restful and therefore 
counter TM.

And, it is easy to make the case that Pure Consciousness is the most restful 
(least stressed) state of the nervous system: stress interferes with the 
ability of the pre-frontal cortex to moderate the activity of the rest of the 
brain. During TM, the signs of restful alertness (high coherent alpha EEG) 
become very great, in the pre-frontal cortex AND between the pre-frontal cortex 
and the parts of the brain that generally don't have that good a connection to 
the pre-frontal cortex during stress.

Anything that you do that interferes with this resting state (e.g. being 
judgmental about the strict pronunciation of the mantra) is going to be 
detrimental to the rest gained during TM and subsequently to the long-term 
effects outside of TM.

Another way of looking at things is to consider the neural-feedback model that 
MUM researchers have proposed for how TM works: the effortless introduction of 
the mantra helps set up an inhibitory feedback loop in the thalamus which 
reduces the likelihood of sensory info passing throughout the brain. This 
includes the sensory info from our external senses as well as the internal 
thalimic-cortical loops we associate with thought, imagination, feelings, etc. 
This leaves the brain in a state of only optimizing its own internal state. 
Attempts to control the pronunciation of the mantra involve larger, 
higher-order functioning of the brain which tends to reduce the localization of 
the inhibitory effect.

Note that this inhibitory effect doesn't have to be profound (and probably 
shouldn't be!). Meditators can respond to novel outside sensory input. Their 
brains still send signals to the heart to keep beating. They are not bound into 
this no-thought state, and when optimization activity starts to interfere with 
the inhibitory loop they are drawn outwards into normalish waking state where 
they perceive thoughts which signals them to start the process all over again.

L.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of William Parkinson
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:48 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras
 
  
 
   
 
 Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this: books 
 on mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the mantra must 
 be pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume because they believe 
 that the mantra is some sort of sonic representation, if not sonic 
 manifestation, of the deity. Yet in TM we are told the mantra might will 
 change as we use it. And the mantra should ideally be a faint thought--not 
 something clear and strong in our minds.This was part of my interest in this 
 varient ways of saying the mantras.
 
  
 
 The TM instructions explicit advise NOT trying to think or pronounce the 
 mantra clearly: “Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation; just a 
 faint idea.”


The key word there is try. It is perfectly acceptable, according to my 
understanding, for the mantra to be clear as a bell. I have found that during 
episodes of sleep deprivation or illness, that my mantra tends to be much more 
pronounceable than usual. Others may well have the opposite experience.

L.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 Exactly Rick. Which is not what some mantra works suggest. That is what I 
 think is interesting. If these mantras are the 'sonic representations' of the 
 deity, one would think they should be spoken, or thought inside, clearly 
 and correctly. If that is so, then what are we to make of our TM way of not 
 thinking it but faintly? What did MMY think of these mantras? Are they 
 symbolic, or merely tools to allow us to go inside?  

The mantras fetch the grace of the deva they are associated with, or 
something like that, was how MMY described TM mantras 55 years ago.

My take is that you can accept this as a literal truth (some gods float around 
waiting to be enticed to offer benefits to people who use TM mantras), or that 
it is an attempt to explain, using religious terminology, some actual effect 
that using specific mantras have on people, or that it is an attempt to justify 
some ancient tradition that has no real relevance to non-believers, but since 
MMY was a believer, he bought the explanation and used it.

L



[FairfieldLife] Re: ‪Zoran Josipovic on how meditation affects the brain - The Consciousness Chronicles Vol. 1‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-15 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azqqBVv2f0


Awareness of awareness states. He doesn't mean pure consciousness ala TM.


L.



[FairfieldLife] Yeah, but does it face East?

2011-07-15 Thread wgm4u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck4aWHDaIFMfeature=feedu



Re: [FairfieldLife] Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)

2011-07-15 Thread Bob Price
Curtis,

Thank you for this basket of 
seasonal gems. I agree summer
is the time men remember water is
our friend and all lines must be curved. 
I'm sure your dangerous part has the same 
scent as those wolves the ladies like so much
to chase. 



From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:57:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Summer -  food porn  (with a few revisions)


  
I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise
into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer.

It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina
peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every 
perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of 
Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion 
with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a 
farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons
and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a 
pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body 
(here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to
see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats 
Summer. It's the heat baby.

I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12
kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.)
I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in
the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. 
Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a
percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil 
with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something
which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it 
because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to 
meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive 
oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with
too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I 
am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the
airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only 
comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter.
That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a 
candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And 
if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read
this far.

I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and
mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the 
Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice
some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and 
fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste 
them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before 
topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a 
glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40
minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash 
over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is 
one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top 
with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some 
more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is
Summer so fill your lungs.

I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one 
mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a
butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been
blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the 
purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which
I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I am 
craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too often. I 
do have lard that I rendered myself but I would 
never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an 
ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and
have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only 
theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever 
random crap comes our way to snuff out our life.

(Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as 
people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death
reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.)

There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that
look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can
put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of
course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the 
gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean
melons this time. Cantaloup that you can smell right through
their patterned skin and of course the only fruit accused of being 
racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a snob and

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 The TM instructions explicit advise NOT trying to think or pronounce
the mantra clearly: “Mental repetition is not a clear
pronunciation; just a faint idea.”

Just out of curiosity, how is your recall of the puja, the checking
notes, the steps?  At best, I think I could do half of any of them. 
Maybe not that much, and then it would be some here, some there


[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...

2011-07-15 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 Ravi my
 man,
 Â
 Your
 insights are always appreciated,
 saves me
 asking the wife what her
 opinion
 is. Should I state the obvious?
 All
 aggressive behaviour,on a
 forum
 like this,
 is passive in nature.
 Â
 And if
 being different is what gets you
 through
 the night, not to worry-I'm OK
 with that.
 But as your friend, I need
 to mention
 that boring the hell out
 of people
 can wreak havoc onrelationships.Â


Thanks Bob, this confirms my understanding of you - it's a lotta fun
mocking others but starts to get uh...boring when getting mocked
at..LOL..No worries though I'm used to this kind of behavior from a
certain Mr. TurquoiseB, a legend, a 60 year old man with the emotional
maturity of a 6 year old.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)

2011-07-15 Thread seventhray1

I am going to take the liberty of forwarding this to the food network. 
Oh, and BTW, they would never do it, but that would be a killer title to
one of their shows.  It would guarantee instant ratings.  This post
would not disappoint.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:

 I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise
 into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer.

 It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina
 peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every
 perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of
 Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion
 with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a
 farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons
 and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour
a pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body
 (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to
 see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats
 Summer. It's the heat baby.

 I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12
 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.)
 I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in
 the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic.
 Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a
 percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this
olive oil with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something
 which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it
 because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to
 meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive
 oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with
 too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I
 am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the
 airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only
 comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter.
 That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a
 candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And
 if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read
 this far.

 I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and
 mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the
 Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice
 some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and
 fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste
 them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before
 topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a
 glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40
 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash
 over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is
 one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top
 with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some
 more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is
 Summer so fill your lungs.

 I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one
 mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a
 butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been
 blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the
 purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which
 I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter
when I am craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the
Summer too often. I do have lard that I rendered myself but I would
 never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an
 ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and
 have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only
 theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with
whatever random crap comes our way to snuff out our life.

 (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as
 people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death
 reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.)

 There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that
 look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can
 put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of
 course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the
 gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean
 melons this time. Cantaloup that you can smell right through
 their patterned skin and of course the only fruit accused of being
 racist, watermelons. I prefer them with seeds because I am a snob and
 that goes against the yuppie trend for convenient everything. Plus my
 farmer's market owner claims they are sweeter cuz when 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread Ravi Yogi
Bill - Thank you.

If I understand you correctly, it seems as if you had too much energy.
And later you crashed.

I would characterize it as a rise and coast. It's only an apparent
crash, not crash landing or crashing down to earth. Using the analogy of
an airplane the crash from rise to coast is only apparent or temporary,
we have already gained elevation.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@...
wrote:

 Thank you so much Ravi!! You have a very interesting story. And I
can now see your inability to sleep for those periods is something quite
different than what might happen in TM. If I understand you correctly,
it seems as if you had too much energy. And later you crashed. It has
some associative points of contact with manic-depressive states. I am
just knowledgeable enough to know that kundalini-style yoga seems to
emphasize moving energy around the various chakras. The problem in TM
seems to be that the recognition within oneself of this silent
innerlayer never leaves even during sleep. Your state was high energy,
the TM state during sleep might be compared to a dimly lit candle-- but
one nevertheless never goes out even during sleep. I am go thankful that
you nshard this with me. I have a great awareness now of what happened
to you and maybe it is also a cautionary tale against using this
type of yoga in some cases.Â
 Cheers
 Bill Â






[FairfieldLife] GENOCIDAL EVIL

2011-07-15 Thread johnt

This is an article by Jeff Reeves for market watch. It shows the mentality of 
him towards seniors. Word of this and hime should be sent far and widwide and 
Market Watch should be contacted and all sponsors boycotted.

JEFF REEVES Archives | Email alerts
July 14, 2011, 12:00 p.m. EDT

ROCKVILLE, Md. (MarketWatch)

Take Medicare, one of the biggest causes of our current budget trouble. If we 
slash spending dramatically, we will not only eliminate one of the biggest 
drains on the U.S. Treasury, but we will also fix the nagging demographic 
problem caused by the baby boomers living longer and clogging Social Security 
rolls.
Without health care, surely few of our seniors will survive into old age. This 
will dramatically reduce both future Medicare and Social Security payouts.
These socialist programs are part of the problem. It's time to make them part 
of the solution.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:


 I wasn't talking about  the knowledge but how Indians love to argue.
 They really went at it on one forum over the ng and m endings.  And
just
 wander over to the JyotishList on Yahoo.  There is often a brawl going
 on there. ;-)


Sorry I misunderstood, thanks for clarifying, I wasn't even aware of the
ng ending. I'm sure it's never ending since there doesn't seem to be a
definitive answer to anything.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj

On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:53 PM, sparaig wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
 
  
  On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:46 PM, sparaig wrote:
  
   However, what I meant by there's alpha and then there's alpha is 
   a reference to the specific pattern(s) that show up during TM, 
   especially during the pure consciousness state.
  
  
  Alleged pure consciousness state. I don't believe anyone accepts that 
  metaphysical speculation except TM folks - esp. since we now have a 
  much clearer idea of what the EEG of samadhi looks like and what it's 
  physiological results are at the cellular level. Sadly, it has not 
  been seen in TM so far.
 
 
 That assumes that what you are referring to is the real deal while what I 
 am referring to is not.

Well these were lineal realizers from the Patanjali tradition. I guess you'd 
have to decide what you'd consider a fourth state. They considered it 
samadhi. I'm simply stating that EEG signatures well known to be associated 
with waking, sleeping and dreaming would not traditionally, experientially, be 
considered the fourth.

 
 What is fun about *my* real deal pure consciousness state is that it is found 
 in self-actualizing non-meditators. Is yours?

Generally NOT. And in the Vedantic trip that's why it was called the fourth 
(turIya). It's something beyond the ordinary states, other than briefly in 
various peak experiences.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread Vaj

On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:54 PM, sparaig wrote:

 Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought (and still do) 
 that these episodes are significant. I'm curious as to why you think they are 
 not?


Because there's been nothing demonstrated as outside the normal realm of 
waking-dreaming-sleeping for one.

But the primary source is yogic literature itself, which defines the different 
types of breath suspensions in considerable detail. The Hindu science of breath 
is quite detailed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread emptybill

Bill,



You might note the following:



Verbal pronunciation and muttered pronunciation is what passes as
mantra for most hindoo-s and Tibetans. That is why they call it japa
(repetition). Not all of them do it this way however.



TM is decidedly not like that but is based upon the four (4) levels of
speech (Vak) that chart the influence of human speech from verbal
articulation to the noetic pulsations at the borderline of silence.

….



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@...
wrote:

 Hi Rob. What I found interesting in the pronunciation was simply this:
books on mantra meditation that I have state very emphatically that the
mantra must be pronounced absolutely clearly and correctly. I assume
because they believe that the mantra is some sort of sonic
representation, if not sonic manifestation, of the deity. Yet in TM we
are told the mantra might will change as we use it. And the mantra
should ideally be a faint thought--not something clear and strong in our
minds.This was part of my interest in this varient ways of saying the
mantras. Â
 Cheers
 Bill






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Meditation the Push-up for the Brain?

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:13 PM, PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
 
  (Medical Xpress) -- Two years ago, researchers at UCLA found that
  specific regions in the brains of long-term meditators were larger
  and had more gray matter than the brains of individuals in a control
  group.

 Hold on there, that's a troubling finding. Health warning required?

 Neanderthals looked much like modern humans... The brain case was
 lower but longer housing a slightly larger brain than that of
 modern humans http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Neanderthal


 So perhaps the subject should be changed to meditation (especially TM) is
the push up bra of the brain.


[FairfieldLife] Re: GENOCIDAL EVIL

2011-07-15 Thread feste37


It's a satirical essay. The clue is in the subtitle, A modest proposal on 
debt: Let the government close. It's an allusion to a famous 18th century 
satirical essay by Jonathan Swift in which he suggests that the Irish could 
ease their poverty by selling their children to rich people, who would eat 
them. The purpose of the modest proposal was to expose the callousness of 
British policy toward Ireland. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote:

 
 This is an article by Jeff Reeves for market watch. It shows the mentality of 
 him towards seniors. Word of this and hime should be sent far and widwide and 
 Market Watch should be contacted and all sponsors boycotted.
 
 JEFF REEVES Archives | Email alerts
 July 14, 2011, 12:00 p.m. EDT
 
 ROCKVILLE, Md. (MarketWatch)
 
 Take Medicare, one of the biggest causes of our current budget trouble. If we 
 slash spending dramatically, we will not only eliminate one of the biggest 
 drains on the U.S. Treasury, but we will also fix the nagging demographic 
 problem caused by the baby boomers living longer and clogging Social Security 
 rolls.
 Without health care, surely few of our seniors will survive into old age. 
 This will dramatically reduce both future Medicare and Social Security 
 payouts.
 These socialist programs are part of the problem. It's time to make them part 
 of the solution.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Fight against the FDA's ridiculous supplement regulation

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 The FDA wants to outlaws supplements formulated after 1994.  I guess
 that means that ancient ayurvedic formulas will be exempt but don't
 count on it. Most of this stuff the FDA comes up with is because big
 pharma wants the lucrative supplement market and drive the small
 supplement companies out of existence.  Make no mistake, small
 supplement companies would like some regulation but not the pull the
 ladder up stuff that big pharma wants so they can have a monopoly.


Always blame big pharma instead of the ineffectiveness of all the sht you
post hype links about here. Supplements are a waste of money.   I sent a
thank you telegram to the FDA when they arrested Bill Faloon and Saul Kent.
There's a multi billion dollar business in the US promoting, selling and
hyping substances which at best do no good, at worse, kill people.   Take
something common like IP6.  A couple of inconsequential studies that proved
nothing.   Repeated thousands of times on the Internet, different fonts,
different colors, different background but all the same words over and over
again, all over the 'Net.  Why?  For what purpose?  This isn't content
farming we're talking about.  This is copy and paste me to in an attempt
to turn a dishonest buck.   I've listened to the likes of Bill Faloon (the
major henchman in keeping supplements deregulated so far) tell of how he was
keeping himself from catching AIDS (that's what it was called in those days)
by taking an Israeli formulation called AL-721.  Never announced when he
abandoned it.   By my reckoning Bill Faloon is taking at least a million
supplements as he or Life Extension Foundation have never disavowed a single
supplement they recommended and, incidentally, peddled.   Dirk Pearson and
Sally Shaw. The authors of *Life Extension *and the poster children of the
supplement movement.  I saw pictures of these life extension poster children
about a decade ago.   I've seen better looking corpses in hospices.


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2011-07-15 Thread FFL PostCount
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Summer - food porn (with a few revisions)

2011-07-15 Thread whynotnow7
Absolutely beautiful Curtis! Goes beyond mere description –food porn! You 
rocked it. I agree wholeheartedly this is a hit!! Thanks for an amazing, 
enjoyable, insightful, transcendent piece of writing. 

Bringing in the atmosphere of the southern summer brings me back instantly to 
my past week in NC, where the heat index hit 110 three days in a row. Like 
swimming through the atmosphere, hot, muggy, steamy, tropical, sweaty and real. 
Loved it...and thank god for air conditioning!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 I'm gunna talk Summer. Steamy hot, makes every fragrant thing rise
 into your nose like Jesus's mom ascending into heaven, Summer.
 
 It started yesterday when I stuck my nose into a box of white Virgina
 peaches at a farmer's market. The smell was intoxicating as every 
 perfectly ripe fruit rose up and greeted me with the perfume of 
 Summer. For me trips to this market are church. It is a communion 
 with the season and nothing smells as good as the things in a 
 farmer's market in the steamy season. I'm a fan of all the seasons
 and each has its foodie charms. But for take-your-clothes-off and pour a 
 pitcher of lemonade mixed with ice tea all over your body 
 (here you will have to put in the type of body you would like to
 see this drink streaming down)naked sensual joy, nothing beats 
 Summer. It's the heat baby.
 
 I have my Summer rituals. I plant a container garden of herbs with 12
 kinds of Basil from all over the world. (Yeah, I'm bragging here.)
 I go out and grab a handful of whatever I touch first when I cook in
 the Summer. This is key because I am an heirloom tomato fanatic. 
 Thwarted by a lack of enough sun to grow my own, I fork over a
 percentage of my income each week to stay stocked up. I found this olive oil 
 with a harvest date on it in Whole Foods, Prima something
 which costs as much as a bottle of good bourbon. It is worth it 
 because when you pour it on the sliced tomatoes it also rises up to 
 meet your nose. The fresher the better with white wines and olive 
 oil. That's how I roll. Then I shower the tomato slices with
 too much basil. I say too much because I am not subtle about this. I 
 am basil rich and I revel in it. Salt, pepper and here comes the
 airplane into the hanger. That is a magical combination that only 
 comes together at this time of year. You can't do it in the Winter.
 That green basil substitute they grow in greenhouses can't hold a 
 candle to the sharp flavor of the tiny leaves on my Greek Basil. And 
 if you had to ask about the tomatoes you wouldn't have read
 this far.
 
 I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino and
 mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the 
 Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrifice
 some tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and 
 fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste 
 them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before 
 topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a 
 glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40
 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash 
 over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is 
 one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top 
 with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some 
 more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breath baby, this is
 Summer so fill your lungs.
 
 I bought two kinds of corn, one white delicate and sweet and one 
 mixed white and yellow on each cob which is not as sweet but has a
 butteriness to it. I eat one of each alternating bites. Each has been
 blessed with olive oil and salt and fresh ground pepper. I know the 
 purists eat it with nothing and some people eat it with butter, which
 I love too. But I usually stock fantastic Irish butters in the Winter when I 
 am craving heavier food so I don't have butter around in the Summer too 
 often. I do have lard that I rendered myself but I would 
 never be so indulgent to...oh man I am putting my lard butter on an 
 ear tonight. It comes from special pigs who live in the woods and
 have a great life and one bad day, just like the rest of us. Only 
 theirs is accomplished by a pro and we will have to make do with whatever 
 random crap comes our way to snuff out our life.
 
 (Uncomfortable pause having alienated the vegetarians as well as 
 people who prefer their food porn without a dash of existential death
 reality check vinaigrette. Sorry.)
 
 There are zukes and yellow squash including those funny ones that
 look like flying saucers and are firmer, have you seen them? You can
 put them in with the eggplant. But the money shot is the melons. Of
 course I am referring to lady's breasts pushing against the  
 gauze-like fabric of Summer dresses...wait...sorry, I actually mean
 melons this time. Cantaloup 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread whynotnow7
Hi Bill, Your user name reminds me of the word amerindian. I am curious if you 
saw my comment earlier pertaining to coddling your bliss and what your thoughts 
are about that please? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 L., no wonder I never saw it. I did not read any posts in this thread. 
 Normally I don't read other threads here unless they pertain directly to 
 meditation. snip



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread whynotnow7
I like reading your stuff Ravi - Bhakti Yoga. 

In SE Asia I grew up on it. It was always in the air. Literally. What I 
remember was the air always smelled like life, kind of fruity, with rot and 
diesel and tobacco and dust mixed in. It HAD a smell. Life seems closer, less 
abstract there. Fruit bats filling the evening sky between the corrugated 
roofs, near the Presidential Palace in Bogor, Indonesia, on Java. 

The beating sun searing above the horizon at seven, then during the monsoon 
season, watching walls of rain sweeping down the street. In the tropics, Nature 
envelops you. Seed of Bhakti Yoga.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Bill - Thank you.
 
 If I understand you correctly, it seems as if you had too much energy.
 And later you crashed.
 
 I would characterize it as a rise and coast. It's only an apparent
 crash, not crash landing or crashing down to earth. Using the analogy of
 an airplane the crash from rise to coast is only apparent or temporary,
 we have already gained elevation.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@
 wrote:
 
  Thank you so much Ravi!! You have a very interesting story. And I
 can now see your inability to sleep for those periods is something quite
 different than what might happen in TM. If I understand you correctly,
 it seems as if you had too much energy. And later you crashed. It has
 some associative points of contact with manic-depressive states. I am
 just knowledgeable enough to know that kundalini-style yoga seems to
 emphasize moving energy around the various chakras. The problem in TM
 seems to be that the recognition within oneself of this silent
 innerlayer never leaves even during sleep. Your state was high energy,
 the TM state during sleep might be compared to a dimly lit candle-- but
 one nevertheless never goes out even during sleep. I am go thankful that
 you nshard this with me. I have a great awareness now of what happened
 to you and maybe it is also a cautionary tale against using this
 type of yoga in some cases.Â
  Cheers
  Bill Â
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
snip 
 Well these were lineal realizers from the Patanjali tradition.
 I guess you'd have to decide what you'd consider a fourth
 state. They considered it samadhi. I'm simply stating that EEG
 signatures well known to be associated with waking, sleeping
 and dreaming would not traditionally, experientially, be 
 considered the fourth.

Let's see, that would be traditionally since about, what,
1924 or so?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
snip
  It turned out to be insignificant, except of course to TM 
  researchers who want to believe the apnea episodes are
  significant.
 
 Certainly that is the case, that the TM researchers thought
 (and still do) that these episodes are significant. I'm
 curious as to why you think they are not?

Because the TM researchers think they are, of course. Silly
wabbit!

Note, BTW, how often Vaj uses circumlocutions like turned
out to be and found to be when he makes pronouncements
denigrating research on TM, vague phrases that allow him to
avoid giving any specifics.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread emptybill

That's about the time when Alice Bailey got going heavy. 1927 is the
year when she wrote a paraphrase of Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.

Now we know why Vag won't list his teachers. One of them must be D. J.
Wahl Ghoul.

…….







--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 snip
  Well these were lineal realizers from the Patanjali tradition.
  I guess you'd have to decide what you'd consider a fourth
  state. They considered it samadhi. I'm simply stating that EEG
  signatures well known to be associated with waking, sleeping
  and dreaming would not traditionally, experientially, be
  considered the fourth.

 Let's see, that would be traditionally since about, what,
 1924 or so?






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread William Parkinson
I do remember it, but not the full gist now. You will have to forgive me. Can 
you 'enlighten' me about it (pun intended). 
Cheers
Bill 

From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:51 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)


  
Hi Bill, Your user name reminds me of the word amerindian. I am curious if you 
saw my comment earlier pertaining to coddling your bliss and what your thoughts 
are about that please? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 L., no wonder I never saw it. I did not read any posts in this thread. 
 Normally I don't read other threads here unless they pertain directly to 
 meditation. snip




[FairfieldLife] Fishing joke photo

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
1900
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52627.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-15 Thread authfriend
Well, 1924 was the date of the first EEG recording.
Pretty primitive. I don't imagine they got around to
doing detailed EEGs to detect samadhi in lineal
Patanjali realizers for at least a few years after
that, so it would be a pretty short tradition.

On the other hand, Mr. Ghoul may have told Ms. Bailey
about EEG recordings from one of the planet's earlier
advanced technological civilizations. Supposedly he was
the communications director for the Ascended Masters,
after all, so if anybody would have had access to that
information, it would have been him. Don't think Ms.
Bailey ever wrote about it, but I'm sure Vaj has his
own sources.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 That's about the time when Alice Bailey got going heavy. 1927
 is the year when she wrote a paraphrase of Patanjali's Yoga 
 Sutras.
 
 Now we know why Vag won't list his teachers. One of them must
 be D. J. Wahl Ghoul.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  snip
   Well these were lineal realizers from the Patanjali tradition.
   I guess you'd have to decide what you'd consider a fourth
   state. They considered it samadhi. I'm simply stating that EEG
   signatures well known to be associated with waking, sleeping
   and dreaming would not traditionally, experientially, be
   considered the fourth.
 
  Let's see, that would be traditionally since about, what,
  1924 or so?




[FairfieldLife] Rama's Coronation

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
pic from 1940 (Rama - supposedly earlier):
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/25436.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Girl at pool, Glenwood Springs

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
Glenwood Springs, CO; 1905
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52636.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Dog pyramid

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
Dog pyramid at Gentry's trained animal show, 1900
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52598.jpg



[FairfieldLife] William Tecumseh Sherman

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
1888
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52915.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Woman with hoop skirt

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
very hoopish
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52917.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Morris family at dinner

2011-07-15 Thread Yifu
Denver, 1905
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52717.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Meditation the Push-up for the Brain?

2011-07-15 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:13 PM, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   (Medical Xpress) -- Two years ago, researchers at UCLA found that
   specific regions in the brains of long-term meditators were larger
   and had more gray matter than the brains of individuals in a control
   group.
 
  Hold on there, that's a troubling finding. Health warning required?
 
  Neanderthals looked much like modern humans... The brain case was
  lower but longer housing a slightly larger brain than that of
  modern humans http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Neanderthal
 
 
  So perhaps the subject should be changed to meditation (especially TM) is
 the push up bra of the brain.

IMO, MMY would not like to associate meditation with effort.  It would be 
better to say that the human brain has the natural ability to transcend, which 
is the secret to fathoming the cosmic mind or the unified field.

This ability to transcend is the pinnacle of creation from its basic 
constituent of matter.  Kurzweil's idea of merging the human brain with the 
assumed emergent intelligence of computers would actually be a devolution from 
the present condition of human consciousness.














[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-15 Thread emptybill

Only in my younger days.



I concluded that people deserve something better than that. I found them
wanting to attribute more Reality to me than I really could claim. It
was an easy way to attribute too much to divine power or God's
grace because someone had a (temporary) connection to the ocean of
power.

It's just too easy to forget that we are French kissing the Grim
Reaper with every breath.

……


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/14/2011 07:53 PM, emptybill wrote:
  This could be a duplicate Yahoo post or maybe not.
  Sorry but no troth with Yahoo.


  Bill,


  Contrary to what you might read, Shakti does not mean
  energy, as in electricity, but rather power.
 

 Empty, have you ever given shaktipat?






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