[FairfieldLife] Wars

2006-06-12 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Quotes from FFL Observers [Commments and implied statements in brackets] Believe me nobody ever died fighting for our [their country's] freedom. Instead they fought to keep the rich rich and the poor poor. They fought the wars as pawns for the rich. The rich could give a damn about our freedom,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: (no subject)

2006-06-12 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/12/06 10:15:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it's ironic, too, how many of those who would send others to fight in wars have never actually volunteered for one

[FairfieldLife] Wars

2006-06-13 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Quotes from FFL Observers [Commments and implied statements in brackets] Believe me nobody ever died fighting for our [their country's] freedom. Instead they fought to keep the rich rich and the poor poor. They fought the wars as pawns for the rich. The rich could give a damn about our freedom,

[FairfieldLife] War

2006-06-13 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Country WWII deaths/100 population --- -- That should be deaths per 1000 population, of course. But

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it!

2006-06-20 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In discussing this with Tom Traynor, he wrapped it up perfectly: Things happen exactly as they should. Why? Because that's the way they happened. Though meaningful perhaps via some other understandings or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: This is why I don't understand why some folks are so thrown by the idea of determinism. If determinism were true, it would make absolutely no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it!

2006-06-20 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 20, 2006, at 12:57 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: In discussing this with Tom Traynor, he wrapped it up perfectly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it!

2006-06-20 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: In discussing this with Tom Traynor, he wrapped

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electronic mantra chanting machine

2006-06-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/21/06 10:43 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And listening to mantras starting with OM is OK with you ? I use a mantra with OM in it. Have been for several years. Material and spiritual well-being

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?

2006-06-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/21/06 7:03 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WIE has details provided by him and his people. Where's the independent articles? One of Amma¹s senior swamis told me that SSRS made a big show of

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?

2006-06-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 6/20/06 7:09:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sparaig@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Part of the predetermined Grand Plan or the result of Free Will?

2006-06-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Per subject, are those the only two alternatives that occur to you? Or is it a hidden yet profound lesson on the shallowness of strawmen thinking? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever heard of a guy called Peter Kelder..?

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All we is more techniques! We know you are beyond need, Peter. But you can still speak the word without taking you out of that state. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever heard of a guy called Peter Kelder..?

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're going to learn them, it's better to learn them the right way. In that way they can take a person to full Buddhahood rather quickly. Was that your experience? If you didn't do it, why not? What else could

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever heard of a guy called Peter Kelder..?

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2006, at 11:29 AM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: If you're going to learn them, it's better to learn them the right way. In that way they can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever heard of a guy called Peter Kelder..?

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2006, at 2:24 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 24, 2006, at 11:29 AM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beware the Yoga Demon! The Christian Right’s fear of self-realization and sp

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: RELIGION Beware the Yoga Demon! The Christian Right's fear of self- realization and spirituality By Mel Seesholtz,

[FairfieldLife] Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why a progressive income tax is a good thing. It is an disincentive to accumulating excessive wealth. It is better to have more millionaires than any billionaires. You would allow people to accumulate an estate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: That's why a progressive income tax is a good thing. It is an disincentive to accumulating excessive wealth. It is better to have more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: A flat tax (some say 17% would do it) with no or few deductions, starting at incomes over $30-50,000, (even a negative income taxfor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: History shows that not to be true at all. Most are just greedy bastards who care little about their fellow humanity. People like Bill Gates are a rare exception Well 280 billion annually in american philanthropy sort

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just reading in the Times about Richard Grasso, who, making $12 million a year, went through all kinds of contortions to obtain his $140 million retirement package. At some point in the accumulation of wealth,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Original posts I was just reading in the Times about Richard Grasso, who, making $12 million a year, went through all kinds of contortions to obtain his $140 million retirement package. At some point in the accumulation of wealth, money ceases to be a medium of exchange and becomes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: When rich people talk about money, they're talking about something entirely different from what poor and middle-class people mean

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy never met a mass-murdering dictator she didn't like. Bush? Nixon? Oh, you said dictators, not almost or hopeful dictators. My mistake. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes and Stepped up Basis

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Few people are aware that any suggestion for the elimination of the estate tax comes with the elimination of the stepped-up basis for capital gains. Currently, all capital gains get stepped-up of their cost basis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate

[FairfieldLife] The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
From adjacent post: [to Judy] If you wish to start a new thread on The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning I could start it with at least several 100 points. But I am biased. I am sure you cite 1000's of points, real or imagined. And just let Unc get started. Perhaps you and others can start the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
itelf. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Vit B12 Methyl Form

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Thanks card for posting the article on B12. For decades, as a vegetarian (mostly -- with a 2-3 year trial exception of fish and poultry ) and vegan at times, I have been aware of the need to supplement ones diet with B12. I did not know the low absorbsion rate of the almost universally used form

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip For Bush to say Saddam wouldn't let them in is simply a lie.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new.morning wrote: BTW, do you fancy yourself a Libertarian? You read that way. I don't fancy myself anything. I don't take some platform and adopt it. I think through each issue and decide on the merits. My views

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Judy, Again, I am heartedned that your manfiest critique of my observation -- that you maybe confusing correleation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Judy, Again, I am heartedned that your manfiest critique of my observation -- that you maybe confusing correleation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Judy, Again, I am heartedned that your manfiest critique of my observation -- that you maybe confusing correleation

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Re: The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: From adjacent post: [to Judy] If you wish to start a new thread on The Massive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new_morning_blank_slate wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: new.morning wrote: BTW, do you fancy yourself a Libertarian? You read that way. I don't fancy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vit B12 Methyl Form

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like many TM'ers back in the late 1970's I gave up on being a vegetarian. I had too many bouts with hypoglycemia, anemia and vata derangements. Using supplements will not often deal with the pH imbalance that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Of course all others are cordially welcomed to chime in. Unc, Tom, Jim, Peter all have good, perhaps at times entertaining, insights

[FairfieldLife] Another Damn, Greedy, Non-Empthatetic Rich Person! Let Lynch the Basards!

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
We were sitting in a Manhattan living room on a spring afternoon, and Warren Buffett had a Cherry Coke in his hand as usual. But this unremarkable scene was about to take a surprising turn. Brace yourself, Buffett warned with a grin. He then described a momentous change in his thinking. Within

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vit B12 Methyl Form

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a good test would be to take an Indian who comes from a long line of vegetarians and pair him with a westerner who claims they function well as a vegetarian and see who actually performs better in a battery of

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no side effect to CC: its just the brain better maintaining the global connectivity of Pure Consciousness along with the normal activation of various states whether major states like waking, dreaming and sleeping, or localized activiations like

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Totally fascinating article (long) in the New York Times magazine. A few excerpts: My Pain, My Brain ... The area of the brain that the scanner focuses

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate Perhaps variations and imperfections of the [INTERPRETATION of the] experience of IT, consciousness being alive within itself explains some of the logical discrpency. IT certainly feels like IT is self-sufficient as if it has

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
My points, interspersed are not meant as argumentative. But they seek to put in fuller light some delicious contradictions still remaining. Which may be real, or artifacts of language or loopy logic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The shift from a bound self to a non-localized Self is pure acausal grace that can not be enacted from the side of the bound mind. And if the shift occurs, and there is something acausal, then what does the acausal

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And contradiction is bad exactly why? In my view, there is a vast realm where logic is of great value, and where contradictions are indicative of an error. And there are other realms which are outside the realm of

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis Tom T; This thing called Enlightenment or Awakening is the ultimate paradox. It can be lived but anything and everything one can say about IT can also be both true and untrue at the same time as it can not acurately be

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis Tom T: An analogy is to think about sitting in front of a 10 million candlewatt strobe light with the eyes closed and wearing an eye mask. THe effect of all that light will leave an imprint on the physiology even if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a Miss Boom-Boom LaVerne here for you, Ah, another Bob Cummings fan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. --- new_morning_blank_slate wrote: See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
, to my attention. I vow to try to refrain from such in the future. Please feel free to bring any lapses of such to my attention. Thank you for your kind attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip However eventually this was supplanted with the idea that consciousness *was* the unified field--and thus the infamous Hagelin article where he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip However eventually this was supplanted with the idea that consciousness *was* the unified field--and thus the infamous Hagelin article where he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 21, 2006, at 4:12 AM, sparaig wrote: Domash, IIRC, ... but he didn't buy into MMY's ideas about Quantum Mechanics. That sounds quite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 21, 2006, at 6:20 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: But in what I observed, he hardly came to MIU in the first place because his expert view was that consciousness *was* the unified field. Thats a rewriting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I could never tell where the line was with MMY: was this all just an analogy or was it describing the reality? It's not an anology for MMY or Hagelin either. Perhaps it was for Domash. Maybe that's what I had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 21, 2006, at 6:20 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: But in what I observed, he hardly came to MIU in the first place because his expert

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do you spell roo

2006-05-22 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ashelkent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: That's the normal way it works, anyway. If the book is being self-published, the schedule could be shorter depending on how much of the work the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-23 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/23/06 11:20 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I was listening to Eckhart Tolle yesterday (Silence Speaks) and he was saying that any thought is a

[FairfieldLife] Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Since last night 11pm or so PST, there have been 25 posts. 15 of them stem from Shemp deciding now was a good time to revisit his views of what Judy posted in January. If that one post were kept at the poster's thought level, the ensuing low value (IMO) 14 posts would have not been posted. If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since last night 11pm or so PST, there have been 25 posts. 15 of them stem from Shemp deciding now was a good time to revisit his views of what Judy posted in January. If that one post were kept

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
we assume are given, true a priori. A more specific response to your points later. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/24/06 12:29 AM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there already a silent presumption that Tolle

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Since last night 11pm or so PST, there have been 25 posts. 15 of them stem from Shemp deciding now was a good time to revisit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: snip Is being driven by and apparently obsessed with the past a sign of something good? Makes one wonder about the effectiveness

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [It is useful to be] constantly being open to new data and new concepts. For example, maybe we often skip a poster which our theory predicts will waste our time. BUT, my point of the orignal post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: [It is useful to be] constantly being open

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: [It is useful to be] constantly being open to new

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip In a way, it's like that bar where the regulars had heard all the jokes so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree there's a severe limit to the progress that can be made with talk therapy that focuses on intellectual analysis of past hurts. But the fact remains that you can't transcend your way out of deep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree there's a severe limit to the progress that can be made with talk therapy that focuses on intellectual analysis of past hurts. But the fact remains that you can't transcend your way out of deep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other emotions that needed dealing with a thousand times more intensely than before

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other emotions that needed dealing with a thousand times more intensely than before

[FairfieldLife] Re: 24 adopted countries

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whyich brings us back to the question which these countries are. Anyonre knows? The Good Ones, obviously. :) Someone posted a list a while back. I think Netherlands, most of Scandanavia, Germany, some newer

[FairfieldLife] Beliefs (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Self in each of us recognizes the Self in another. We are conscious of this to one degree or another, whether our Self has been fully awakened to us, or not. This is how someone somewhat Awake will recognize

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate Asking the same question that you asked Vaj, why do you make unprovable assumption that these people are Awakened? 'cause I have more to go on than he did. I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or that the label Awakening has much of a common

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 5/24/06 3:04 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Beliefs (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all respect, I think you have missed the point of what I have written. Perhaps. I am certainly open to any corrections. But perhaps you have missed my point. You have an experience / knowlwedge that you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply

[FairfieldLife] CC (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Or that the label Awakening has much of a common connotation to many - and thus elucidates more than it obscures

[FairfieldLife] Beliefs (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] With all respect, the bedrock of my Awakening serves as the foundation for that which I write. Accept it or not, makes no difference to me. And why would I, or anyone, accept your truth or your awakening. simply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, his term was Self Actualization. Most people on this forum share a common definition of Self Realization. Which is? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: I ask you both, with no rancor, do you believe that the higher states of consciousness can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: And in your worldview, what do you call the state where all illusions have been dissolved? 'the state where all illusions have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: And in your worldview, what do you call the state where all illusions have been dissolved? 'the state where all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: So shit is rejection. OK Rev. Jim. Fuck you. So I assume ideal social behavior and no anger (from the MMY 18

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: I have asked because some/many would not associate illusions with awakening. They describe the state of illusion with terms

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: As I said before, whether you accept it or not makes no difference to me. I rarely accept unprovable assertions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beliefs that

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: holding any belief as valid or true would be a filter or impostion on what is. Any belief we could hold would then keep us from real integrity. And the riches that can flow freely are not just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: If one is using E. or similar terms, but meaning a state with different attributes than the MMY 18, its honest and an act

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