Re: Overjoyed
Thank you for the wonderful news and congratulations to you both! It is so great to realise there is hope for our kittys! Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe.?Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and?Minstral?is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean?Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.
Re: Joe Cool Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I'm sorry that Joe Cool has gone. The story of your meeting him for the first time is sweet. I can't imagine how hard it is to fall in love with these guys and then lose them, but I know it's also rewarding to take care of them and to give them the love they deserve. I appreciate all that you and Crash's/Sid's do. Lance On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:30:50 -0800 (PST), Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dr. Jen was just telling us last night that she had him out to the clinic cause he was not feeling well and was running tests and such.Well she got a call from one of the girls from the clinic this morning and she said that he passed away during the night. Joe Cool lived up to his name.He was a handsome black and white boy.I remember his first night there at Sids.I was looking all over for this new guy named JoeCool and then I saw this white paw sticking out from under a chair.I looked under there and saw the cutest white nose and it was love!! He will be missed by all of us.Thank you all for being here for me. Sherry - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overjoyed
Awesome! That is great news! Congratulations to you and to Minstrel. Lance On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:45:04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe.?Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and?Minstral?is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be op ening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean?Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Overjoyed
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RE: Joe Cool Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, as always, gentle Bridge vibes to Joe Cool, and hugs to you and everybody there. He sounds like a great little guy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:31 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Joe Cool Please add to the CLS :( Dr. Jen was just telling us last night that she had him out to the clinic cause he was not feeling well and was running tests and such.Well she got a call from one of the girls from the clinic this morning and she said that he passed away during the night. Joe Cool lived up to his name.He was a handsome black and white boy.I remember his first night there at Sids.I was looking all over for this new guy named JoeCool and then I saw this white paw sticking out from under a chair.I looked under there and saw the cutest white nose and it was love!! He will be missed by all of us.Thank you all for being here for me. Sherry Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsear ch/category.php?category=shopping This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Overjoyed ~ Qs for Michelle
Fabulous news for you and Minstrel! Happy dance! I cannot even imagine how light your heart feels today!!! Do you mind sharing how old she was when she first tested negative; how old she is now and what test was used each time? That is, if you can come down from your cloud long enough to read email! Laurie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: Overjoyed Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe. Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and Minstral is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble -- AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour now.
RE: Overjoyed
What wonderful, and, sadly, rare good news! Long happy life to Minstrel and congratulatory hugs to you. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Overjoyed Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe. Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and Minstral is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Overjoyed
WOW Michelle that is Great news!! It is nice to hear good news for once.I wish more ans more of them could retest neg. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe. Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and Minstral is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble - AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour now. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: Overjoyed
Oh WOW... That is great news. Congratulations to Minstrel. Sally On Feb 8, 2008 8:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe. Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and Minstral is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble -- AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tourhttp://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/now. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Re: Please add to the Bridge List
Gloria, I am so, so sorry for your losses. Please take care. Kelley On Feb 6, 2008 4:55 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so sorry. Losing one is bad enough. Losing two??? On Feb 6, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Gloria Lane wrote: I've had 2 cats die in the last two months, I am so sad to say. Please add to the bridge list. They were not FELV. Angel Moon was a 5-6 year old siamese girl, died Dec 14. She was a shy, scaredy cat - would come out to ask for food and go Meow-Meow, but wouldn't have any thing to do with people for the most part. I've had her for a year or so. Miss Hendrix was probably 8-10 yrs girl, a short but quite fat black kitty, really cute, funny and likeable. She's been with me 4 years, a real sweetie, looked great. She just developed a cold or something over the last couple of days, I was treating her, and suddenly there she was - it was a real shock to lose her late last night (February 5). Will probably have a necropsy. Thanks! Gloria -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Overjoyed
Thanks! We had Isabella tested again yesterday. Awaiting results. L - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:51 AM Subject: Overjoyed Laurie Minstrel was in sanctuary with now Angel Buddy (FIV+) when they were first tested and from what i gather they were both tested around 6 months of age - obviously Buddy was FIV and Minstrel tested positive for FeLV - I assume they used the in house SNAP test at that point. From what I gather though FeLV+ results are more reliable than FIV results on the in house test. To be honest I didn't ask what test it was this time but I know they sent it away and didn't test in house. The test cost me close to £50 in UK and Minstrel is now 4 years old. Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble xxx -- AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour now.
Re: Please add to the Bridge List
oh, honey, i'm so sorry. my gmail is messing up lately, and i didn't see your post until there had been responses to it.. all i can say is remind you of what i tell myself: that they come to us when they need us (and when we need them), and they stay exactly as long as we need them to be there--when they've taught us what they're meant to, and when they've received from us what they need to go on, it is time. no promises, no guarantees, and therefore, nothing but the love and light matters anyway. you were the only human in the world they wanted to spend the last part of their life with, and that's a pretty awesome thing. thank you for sharing them with us--i can just see angel moon sneaking out for a snack and a hello, then going back to her safe space; and your description of miss hendrix brings a grin to my face, thinking of the ones who are flat-out silly and funny. GLOW to heal your heart and light the darker corners of your house, and to make sure that the two of them are making great friends at the bridge. blessed be. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Overjoyed
Wonderful news Michelle. I'm so happy for you and Minstrel. It is indeed good to hear some happy news for a change. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Overjoyed Oh WOW... That is great news. Congratulations to Minstrel. Sally On Feb 8, 2008 8:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe. Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and Minstral is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour now. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
RE: BooBoo is home!!
Lynne: That's great that he came through it fine. He sounds very happy. Neutered males crack me up b/c they don't seem to miss a beat after their surgery! It's like nothing happened! Don't get depressed...it's not time for that. He sounds like he's doing really well. What else about the blood work was bad? Was it just the anemia? It's possible he had such bad fleas and a lack of nutrition that he could have flea anemia and thus, it could be reversible. Don't despair yet. Something to try...I know it's gross, but I am a vegetarian and I got over it...is raw chicken livers and raw lean beef. My holistic vet had me feeding this to Monkee for his anemia. It's literally one of the best things you can do naturally to help combat the anemia. Just get a tub of chicken livers from the grocery- I personally got the ones that were Free Range, non-hormone fed chickens, or ones labeled organic b/c you don't really need him getting anything else that is bad for him right now. Chicken livers are tough so I would cut them up as best as I could and they became kind of a mush. You want to serve them room temperature, but DO NOT MICROWAVE THEM-- eww- the smell-- and you want them just room temp, not cooked- they still need to be raw. I would warm them by kind of a double-boiler process where I put the livers I was going to serve in a small bowl in a pot of hot/warm water to bring them to room temp. If BooBoo has trouble eating the raw livers, you can also blend or grind them. I used a blender myself when Monkee got weaker and seemed to need the pieces really cut up, so yeah, Monkee ended up with his own blender after that. As for the beef, you want lean ground sirloin that is low fat. I went to Whole Foods and actually got Monkee a thing of organic ground Buffalo. I was getting such a small amount (b/c I didn't know if he would eat it) that the butcher didn't even charge me when I told him it was for my sick cat. Monkee loved the Buffalo and it was actually one of the last things he ate. Again, serve it room temp, RAW, and cut it up- even tho it's ground, you still need to make bite size kitty pieces. The chicken liver blood poured on top of the beef is also really good- Monkee loved it and it's so good for treating anemia. You have nothing to lose, so you should try it. BooBoo will love love love it I am sure and it will be a nice natural treatment for his anemia. I would definitely try it before you start throwing drugs at him-- at least to see if it's just a flea anemia or anemia brought about by lack of food and proper care, as opposed to actual Felv anemia. If you are interested in the homeopathic/holistic care- which I think BooBoo could really benefit from b/c he had such a hard time before you found him- you could look for a vet in your area that is a homeopathic vet. Mine is a regular vet in addition to being a homeopathic vet. One of the homeopathic treatments for anemia is Phosphorus. You can get it at a health foods store like Whole Foods. You want the 30c pellets. You can add them to food or directly administer to the mouth, but the pills are tiny so I would sometimes crush them and put them in cat milk- something like that. Give 3-5 pellets 3 times a day. ***Again- I'm not prescribing drugs here- just so everyone is clear- homeopathics don't have an contraindications or side-affects. This is the dose my holistic vet gave me for Monkee when his anemia was active. It's another thing to try b/c you have nothing to lose- there's no dangers in trying it. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BooBoo is home!!Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:12:45 -0500 BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
RE: BooBoo is home!!
I'm glad BooBoo is home and doing well after his surgery. Sorry the vet didn't have better news on his bloodwork. Did he say what kind of anemia? Did he mention Epogen or food supplements or anything you can be doing proactively now, as opposed to in the future if needed? It's so important to keep these little guys' strength up. Please don't be depressed. This is sad but it happens. It's like with kids or parents -- if they get sick, you deal with it the best way you can, and you always keep in mind that you can't save everybody just by wanting to. Our Patches came to us much as BooBoo came to you -- horribly matted and flea-ridden, although rather than being owned, he was out on the streets until he made such a fuss outside our window one summer night. He crawled into our hearts for a few weeks, during which I joined this wonderful list, and then got too sick to stay in this world. In retrospect, I'm not sure if he had lived that we'd have been able to give him the care he needed and deserved -- we had 5 others, who would have needed vaccinations if we were to let him out among them, which he so wanted, and the vet bills and medicines would have been a real hardship. But this list has taught me that Patches found his way to us out of everyone else in the neighborhood when he needed us most, and although we tried desperately to get him better, maybe our entire role in his little saga was to get him clean and happy and loved and help him along to the next level mercifully. I do hope BooBoo stays with you for a long happy time, but if he doesn't, he and you will know it's not for lack of you fighting. I see that others have already sent some excellent suggestions about things to give BooBoo to fight the anemia. Please also know that all vets are not state-of-the-art when it comes to FeLV. Ask your vet if he's heard of the protocols mentioned in everybody's emails, and if he hasn't, see if he's willing to learn along with you. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: BooBoo is home!!
Lynne dont get depressed,you are the BEST thing that happened to BooBoo(I love the name,I had a BooBoo kiyyt too) Those people are just down right awful. When My Maizee Grace was anemic I fed her Lysine and Felovite and I believe it helped her along.She was having chemo and steroids all at once.So she fought it everyday.Good luck just know you are his best chance at a decent life. Sherry Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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Dear Lynne So glad BooBoo is back home safely. And, I'm so glad BooBoo found you and your husband. These people that had him are not good people. I hope they're out of your and BooBoo's life now. When I discovered 4 of my foster kittens had FeLV, I was in shock. I realized they now had to become my kittens, (they were also feral), as their adoption chances were so low (nil?). I guess what kept me going was the fact that these little souls were now at least warm and cared for (they'd been eking out a dangerous existence in sub-zero temps in someone's yard) and never had to worry about where to find their next meal again. That made me feel good. I got back much, much more. Yes, there were painful times, but knowing I did the best possible job I could to ensure their quality of life made it worth it. And Mickey threw off the virus anyway! Remember what a wonderful home you are giving to little BooBoo. Most folks want nothing to do with sick and special needs animals. You are doing something very special in adding BooBoo to your family. He may not be able to talk but I'll bet he's already letting you know how appreciative he is. I wanted to forward you this email before I leave work that I sent to someone else a while ago on immuno regulin. I was too late in getting it to use it for my Flavia, but everything I heard and read, from the folks here, and in the articles made it seem worth trying. And it wasn't expensive. Good luck! hugs to you and BooBoo, Kerry M. Dear Ken, Welcome, though I'm very sorry for the reason you had to find us. You sound like a very caring person and I'm also sorry you've found a vet who is unwilling to work with you. (I myself don't know any vets in Northern Jersey but perhaps others on the list will.) Here's the name tel # of the supplier (Revival Animal Health in Iowa) who fedexed it to 2 clinics for me overnight in July. (Total per 1 package inc shipping was $50---relatively inexpensive,) Both the vets I used/found were willing to try it even tho they had never used it before. I had to help one of them figure out the protocol using the info you'll see here. While I haven't yet had time to organise all the following into one coherent report--it's a number of emails rolled into one--I think it does contain some very background info including 3 articles.. Sending lots of healing vibes to your little Max. I highly recommend you order the IR asap and have it overnighted in the hope you'll have found an enlightened vet by the time it arrives. I left it too late. Please keep us posted when you have time. You will find this group a very caring and supportive bunch of people--it's been a godsend to me and my FeLV cats (it may be a bit slow on the weekend). Wishing very good luck to you and Max. (I'm in a timecrunch at work so have to sign off now, but fire away ANY Qs you have and others will jump in.) Kerry IR INFO: Revival's tel no is 800 786 4751. (Revival is the supplier I used.) While I sadly did not order the Immuno regulin in time to be able to use it, the Revival people were good to deal with and the IR arrived at both vet clinics that I had it sent directly to when it was supposed to (ie overnighted by Fedex). I had never ordered it before and neither vet had ever used it but they were both very positive about doing so and liaised with me about the protocol/how much to use---it comes with directions in any case (although I haven't seen those because it's at the clinics). At least I now have it on hand should Mickey (or the NJ FeLV kitty I will be getting soon) need it. Here's also a copy of the relevant excerpts of what I emailed to Dr Dodin who was going to be administering the IR Dear Dr Dodin Here are the 3 articles that give background on Immunoregulin for FeLV cats. (It is given by IV.) I placed an order with Revival Animal Health this morning for 5ml of ImmunoregulinEqstim, and it will be shipped today, overnighted to Abell, marked for your attention, so should be there tomorrow (Wednesday). It will come in a Polar box, and will need refrigeration when it arrives. (They said a cat of 8lb is administered between 0.25 and 0.5 ml each time.) There appear to be 2 possible protocols--4 times in first 2 weeks, then once a week till stabilized, then monthly recommended thereafter for maintenance; OR once a week. Please let me know what you think is best for Flavia once you've had a chance to consider. THE ARTICLES: http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html blocked::http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/opinion.html blocked::http://www.felineleukemia.org/opinion.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html blocked::http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html This archived site is also worth looking at--an email from a web list member, Kyle, who had
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Lynne, YAY re BooBoo's neuter. Don't despair re the anemia. Isabella had anemia, very high temps (107), enlarged spleen, still unexplained tremors and horrific pain and she kicked it all! She is doing GREAT. I was reading my old emails- we thought her time had come twice last summer. Several times we thought she had died. And now she is robust, happy, healthy and has gained weight and is 100% improved. She is a new cat. We had her retested yesterday. Will post results when we get them. We started interferon right away (inexpensive), and pred (inexpensive) and a pain med. She always wanted to eat which made our life easier. We also added transfer factor to her food. She's a little miracle kitty, like so many here. Prayers for beautiful BooBoo and hisses to those other people. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
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Thank you Kerri. While still staring at the bloodwork and not believing what I was seeing, the vet did say something about immuno something, being given for 2 weeks at a time. He was going to contact a pharmacy and get the information for me. I suspect Dr. Gill isn't too terribly experienced with FelV but he seems very willing to work with the problem. I think most people around here tend to euthanize them. We have a large feral cat problem in this City and the receptionist said they have seen several cases of it lately. Again, people choose to euthanize. I guess I can understand why they would, a lot of people aren't prepared to invest a lot of emotion and money into what lies ahead. For the time being we'll just live life normally and indulge Boo and deal with problems as they arise. Lynne - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: RE: BooBoo is home!! Dear Lynne So glad BooBoo is back home safely. And, I'm so glad BooBoo found you and your husband. These people that had him are not good people. I hope they're out of your and BooBoo's life now. When I discovered 4 of my foster kittens had FeLV, I was in shock. I realized they now had to become my kittens, (they were also feral), as their adoption chances were so low (nil?). I guess what kept me going was the fact that these little souls were now at least warm and cared for (they'd been eking out a dangerous existence in sub-zero temps in someone's yard) and never had to worry about where to find their next meal again. That made me feel good. I got back much, much more. Yes, there were painful times, but knowing I did the best possible job I could to ensure their quality of life made it worth it. And Mickey threw off the virus anyway! Remember what a wonderful home you are giving to little BooBoo. Most folks want nothing to do with sick and special needs animals. You are doing something very special in adding BooBoo to your family. He may not be able to talk but I'll bet he's already letting you know how appreciative he is. I wanted to forward you this email before I leave work that I sent to someone else a while ago on immuno regulin. I was too late in getting it to use it for my Flavia, but everything I heard and read, from the folks here, and in the articles made it seem worth trying. And it wasn't expensive. Good luck! hugs to you and BooBoo, Kerry M. Dear Ken, Welcome, though I'm very sorry for the reason you had to find us. You sound like a very caring person and I'm also sorry you've found a vet who is unwilling to work with you. (I myself don't know any vets in Northern Jersey but perhaps others on the list will.) Here's the name tel # of the supplier (Revival Animal Health in Iowa) who fedexed it to 2 clinics for me overnight in July. (Total per 1 package inc shipping was $50---relatively inexpensive,) Both the vets I used/found were willing to try it even tho they had never used it before. I had to help one of them figure out the protocol using the info you'll see here. While I haven't yet had time to organise all the following into one coherent report--it's a number of emails rolled into one--I think it does contain some very background info including 3 articles.. Sending lots of healing vibes to your little Max. I highly recommend you order the IR asap and have it overnighted in the hope you'll have found an enlightened vet by the time it arrives. I left it too late. Please keep us posted when you have time. You will find this group a very caring and supportive bunch of people--it's been a godsend to me and my FeLV cats (it may be a bit slow on the weekend). Wishing very good luck to you and Max. (I'm in a timecrunch at work so have to sign off now, but fire away ANY Qs you have and others will jump in.) Kerry IR INFO: Revival's tel no is 800 786 4751. (Revival is the supplier I used.) While I sadly did not order the Immuno regulin in time to be able to use it, the Revival people were good to deal with and the IR arrived at both vet clinics that I had it sent directly to when it was supposed to (ie overnighted by Fedex). I had never ordered it before and neither vet had ever used it but they were both very positive about doing so and liaised with me about the protocol/how much to use---it comes with directions in any case (although I haven't seen those because it's at the clinics). At least I now have it on hand should Mickey (or the NJ FeLV kitty I will be getting soon) need it. Here's also a copy of the relevant excerpts of what I emailed to Dr Dodin who was going to be administering the IR Dear Dr Dodin Here are the 3 articles that give background on Immunoregulin for FeLV cats. (It is given by IV.) I placed an order with Revival Animal Health this morning for 5ml of
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I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
BooBoo is home!!
BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
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Great that you have an enlightened vet that will work with you. My vet was in a similar situation---had very little experience with FeLV but was very willing to do whatever it took. Makes such a difference in every way. Kerry _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Thank you Kerri. While still staring at the bloodwork and not believing what I was seeing, the vet did say something about immuno something, being given for 2 weeks at a time. He was going to contact a pharmacy and get the information for me. I suspect Dr. Gill isn't too terribly experienced with FelV but he seems very willing to work with the problem. I think most people around here tend to euthanize them. We have a large feral cat problem in this City and the receptionist said they have seen several cases of it lately. Again, people choose to euthanize. I guess I can understand why they would, a lot of people aren't prepared to invest a lot of emotion and money into what lies ahead. For the time being we'll just live life normally and indulge Boo and deal with problems as they arise. Lynne - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: RE: BooBoo is home!! Dear Lynne So glad BooBoo is back home safely. And, I'm so glad BooBoo found you and your husband. These people that had him are not good people. I hope they're out of your and BooBoo's life now. When I discovered 4 of my foster kittens had FeLV, I was in shock. I realized they now had to become my kittens, (they were also feral), as their adoption chances were so low (nil?). I guess what kept me going was the fact that these little souls were now at least warm and cared for (they'd been eking out a dangerous existence in sub-zero temps in someone's yard) and never had to worry about where to find their next meal again. That made me feel good. I got back much, much more. Yes, there were painful times, but knowing I did the best possible job I could to ensure their quality of life made it worth it. And Mickey threw off the virus anyway! Remember what a wonderful home you are giving to little BooBoo. Most folks want nothing to do with sick and special needs animals. You are doing something very special in adding BooBoo to your family. He may not be able to talk but I'll bet he's already letting you know how appreciative he is. I wanted to forward you this email before I leave work that I sent to someone else a while ago on immuno regulin. I was too late in getting it to use it for my Flavia, but everything I heard and read, from the folks here, and in the articles made it seem worth trying. And it wasn't expensive. Good luck! hugs to you and BooBoo, Kerry M. Dear Ken, Welcome, though I'm very sorry for the reason you had to find us. You sound like a very caring person and I'm also sorry you've found a vet who is unwilling to work with you. (I myself don't know any vets in Northern Jersey but perhaps others on the list will.) Here's the name tel # of the supplier (Revival Animal Health in Iowa) who fedexed it to 2 clinics for me overnight in July. (Total per 1 package inc shipping was $50---relatively inexpensive,) Both the vets I used/found were willing to try it even tho they had never used it before. I had to help one of them figure out the protocol using the info you'll see here. While I haven't yet had time to organise all the following into one coherent report--it's a number of emails rolled into one--I think it does contain some very background info including 3 articles.. Sending lots of healing vibes to your little Max. I highly recommend you order the IR asap and have it overnighted in the hope you'll have found an enlightened vet by the time it arrives. I left it too late. Please keep us posted when you have time. You will find this group a very caring and supportive bunch of people--it's been a godsend to me and my FeLV cats (it may be a bit slow on the weekend). Wishing very good luck to you and Max. (I'm in a timecrunch at work so have to sign off now, but fire away ANY Qs you have and others will jump in.) Kerry IR INFO: Revival's tel no is 800 786 4751. (Revival is the supplier I used.) While I sadly did not order the Immuno regulin in time to be able to use it, the Revival people were good to deal with and the IR arrived at both vet clinics that I had it sent directly to when it was supposed to (ie overnighted by Fedex). I had never ordered it before and neither vet had ever used it but they were both very positive about doing
Overjoyed
Laurie Minstrel was in sanctuary with now Angel Buddy (FIV+) when they were first tested and from what i gather they were both tested around 6 months of age - obviously Buddy was FIV and Minstrel tested positive for FeLV - I assume they used the in house SNAP test at that point. From what I gather though FeLV+ results are more reliable than FIV results on the in house test. To be honest I didn't ask what test it was this time but I know they sent it away and didn't test in house. The test cost me close to £50 in UK and Minstrel is now 4 years old. Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble xxx AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.
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Lynne, I am remembering we also tested/treated Isabella for Hemobartenella or something like that. It's a parasite that can cause anemia and is treatable. The med is kind of expensive but not bad. If my memory serves me correctly, we treated another cat for hemobartit seems like we didn't test him. Can't remember if the test is reliable. Anyone else more familiar with this?? Thanks Laurie
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Caroline, Im sorry to hear of your loss. I know it is hard to lose a wonderful
friend.
Marie
MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma } Oh Caroline, I am so, so sorry. Brumley was
such a special, brave little fellow, such a trooper. And you were surely his
guardian angel. You really did him proud. No one could have done more for
Brumley than you did---no one. It's really amazing and wonderful that he was so
content and loving of life right up till almost the last moment. He obviously
knew how loved he was. What an inspiration his example is. And yours, too,
Caroline--thanks for everything you did for your little sweetie foster kitten.
Wish there were more in the world like you. much love and big hugs, Kerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline
Kaufmann
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Brumley is gone
Hello all. Sadly I have to report that my sweet foster kitten Brumley is
gone. I know that so many of you championed his cause and helped me with his
very intensive care that started the minute I took him home from the condo at
the store on Dec. 22. I so wanted him to be a success story and in a way, he
was. His story was about not giving up, even in the face of impossible odds
and other vets writing him off as having FIP and then not wanting to continue
forward with alleviating the pain his affected eye was causing him. But my mom
and I kept going and by the time we got to our 5th vet, we found someone who
was willing to keep working on Brumley and in the meantime, alleviate the pain
his eye was causing him- which he did and Brumley's quality of life increased
and I thought he might make it. He didn't stop eating and drinking until the
18th of Jan. and that is also when he became ataxic. But he never stopped
interacting with his environment and doing the small
little things that he wanted to do- like continue to walk around, even tho he
fell sometimes- that never stopped him, hang out with the dog whom- he loved,
sniff things, curl up on me and purr, bird watch, family wathc, and try to eat
soil from the plant, etc. He never stopped purring either until the very end.
I was worried that with Brumley I wouldn't know when it was time. And his vet
even said to me about 5 different times that he would drag his feet on this
one because he loved Brumley's grey and white coloring and the way Brum was
such a trooper and would just not give up at all! So I worried that if the vet
drags his feet, and I drag my feet, will we keep a cat going who is suffering?
But that didn't happen. I don't believe Brum suffered much, if at all. He was
perky last night and purring away in a cat box he found the other night- after
somehow making it all the way up the steps to the housecats room and climbing
in it! He had started to fight me a lot with syringe feeding (which I have
done since Jan. 19th) and the subqu fluids- also since the 19th. So I was
concerned that the fighting- which he had never done before- was either a good
or bad sign. But he was fine last night- he got his two prednisones and it was
my typical evening of treating, medicating,
feeding, and babying The Brum. But this morning, he was not standing up in
his crate and looking around and meowing- which had become his usual morning
routine. He was laying flat and my mom thought he had already passed. His
little front paws were gripping the crate and I had to pry them off- he was
obviously in respiratory distress- as this is my 3 time since Monkee died in my
arms in July to see this, so I know the signs b/c I live in fear of them. He
was craning his neck like he was trying to breathe and his breathing was rapid.
So I threw on clothes and we rushed him out to the emergency clinic- the same
one that also took my Possum on the 22 of Jan. Brumley's regular vet wasn't in
until 9 today and he had surgeries scheduled, so we couldn't go there. Which I
think is good b/c when I saw his vet, I would have started balling instead of
being composed and I just think it would have been a mess for both me and him
b/c he really liked this cat.
The emergency vet said it was grave. Clinically, he was dehydrated (despite my
2x day fluid treatments), his liver was failing, she suspected kidneys were
next, she found granulomas throughout his body (other places besides the eye),
his temp was down again to 94, and she strongly suspected brain damage. She
said he was definitely dying and whether it was dry FIP, Toxo (which she
doubted), or she proposed a very severe fungal infection-- either way, none of
it was reversible and everything that could be done for the cat had been done.
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Thank you Caroline for all this info. I certainly will give it some consideration. Lynne - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: RE: BooBoo is home!! Lynne: That's great that he came through it fine. He sounds very happy. Neutered males crack me up b/c they don't seem to miss a beat after their surgery! It's like nothing happened! Don't get depressed...it's not time for that. He sounds like he's doing really well. What else about the blood work was bad? Was it just the anemia? It's possible he had such bad fleas and a lack of nutrition that he could have flea anemia and thus, it could be reversible. Don't despair yet. Something to try...I know it's gross, but I am a vegetarian and I got over it...is raw chicken livers and raw lean beef. My holistic vet had me feeding this to Monkee for his anemia. It's literally one of the best things you can do naturally to help combat the anemia. Just get a tub of chicken livers from the grocery- I personally got the ones that were Free Range, non-hormone fed chickens, or ones labeled organic b/c you don't really need him getting anything else that is bad for him right now. Chicken livers are tough so I would cut them up as best as I could and they became kind of a mush. You want to serve them room temperature, but DO NOT MICROWAVE THEM-- eww- the smell-- and you want them just room temp, not cooked- they still need to be raw. I would warm them by kind of a double-boiler process where I put the livers I was going to serve in a small bowl in a pot of hot/warm water to bring them to room temp. If BooBoo has trouble eating the raw livers, you can also blend or grind them. I used a blender myself when Monkee got weaker and seemed to need the pieces really cut up, so yeah, Monkee ended up with his own blender after that. As for the beef, you want lean ground sirloin that is low fat. I went to Whole Foods and actually got Monkee a thing of organic ground Buffalo. I was getting such a small amount (b/c I didn't know if he would eat it) that the butcher didn't even charge me when I told him it was for my sick cat. Monkee loved the Buffalo and it was actually one of the last things he ate. Again, serve it room temp, RAW, and cut it up- even tho it's ground, you still need to make bite size kitty pieces. The chicken liver blood poured on top of the beef is also really good- Monkee loved it and it's so good for treating anemia. You have nothing to lose, so you should try it. BooBoo will love love love it I am sure and it will be a nice natural treatment for his anemia. I would definitely try it before you start throwing drugs at him-- at least to see if it's just a flea anemia or anemia brought about by lack of food and proper care, as opposed to actual Felv anemia. If you are interested in the homeopathic/holistic care- which I think BooBoo could really benefit from b/c he had such a hard time before you found him- you could look for a vet in your area that is a homeopathic vet. Mine is a regular vet in addition to being a homeopathic vet. One of the homeopathic treatments for anemia is Phosphorus. You can get it at a health foods store like Whole Foods. You want the 30c pellets. You can add them to food or directly administer to the mouth, but the pills are tiny so I would sometimes crush them and put them in cat milk- something like that. Give 3-5 pellets 3 times a day. ***Again- I'm not prescribing drugs here- just so everyone is clear- homeopathics don't have an contraindications or side-affects. This is the dose my holistic vet gave me for Monkee when his anemia was active. It's another thing to try b/c you have nothing to lose- there's no dangers in trying it. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: BooBoo is home!! Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:12:45 -0500 BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a
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Pat, BooBoo is a little pig cat. He would eat all day long if we'd feed him. He's eaten a whole can of tuna since he got home from the vet as well as some hard food and is still wanting more. Tuna in spring water seems to be his favorite. He also likes a bit of sardines for snack. I bought him a really good dry and canned food at the vets but he only seems to like the hard stuff. You know, our first cat, Chuck, who lived to 19 was a very finicky eater. Actually his favorite foods were chicken and steak. He also ate some hard crunchies but that cat loved chicken more than anything. We used to buy a bunch of friers and bake them and make up a bunch of meals in bags for him. If we ate beef, he got beef. It couldn't have been too harmful because he lived a long and healthy life. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
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I'm going to start reading more about supplements and medication Sherry. I'm quite ignorant about the whole matter. Thank god for this group and all the information available here. It certainly makes the journey easier. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:31 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Lynne dont get depressed,you are the BEST thing that happened to BooBoo(I love the name,I had a BooBoo kiyyt too) Those people are just down right awful. When My Maizee Grace was anemic I fed her Lysine and Felovite and I believe it helped her along.She was having chemo and steroids all at once.So she fought it everyday.Good luck just know you are his best chance at a decent life. Sherry Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was alway s healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: Computer Help
Thanks, Lance, Actually when I got to work this morning I found the ones that had not come through at home last night in my spam file. All the messages that come to work go into my spam file even though I have the FeLV talk e-mail set up in my contact list. I guess I will just have to play with it and get used to the way it works. Thanks, Sue Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, Yes, when you reply to a message, it goes out to everyone. Usually, if you reply to the list from an email address different than the one you registered with, I don't believe the message goes through unless someone (James, maybe?) sees what's going on an manually puts it through. I've accidentally replied from a different email address a number of times, and it's going through now, though I don't think they used to. I have a very aggressive spam filter set up with my email provider, and a number of messages got tagged earlier this week. Maybe those are the ones to which you refer? That might be why you didn't receive the mails. I'm not sure that there is any particular help regarding these issues, other than the message you should have received when you signed up. Hope that helps. Lance On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:12:27 -0500, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Help! I seem to be having trouble getting around in this talk group. Are there directions anywhere on the website that would help? Or a FeLV talk for dummies message? I just went into the archives and found out I had missed some messages that were directed to me. When I reply to a message does it go out to everyone? I have noticed that when I write something from home it has our names under the from line and when I write from work it has my e-mail address there. Thanks for any help, Sue -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joe Cool Please add to the CLS :(
Dr. Jen was just telling us last night that she had him out to the clinic cause he was not feeling well and was running tests and such.Well she got a call from one of the girls from the clinic this morning and she said that he passed away during the night. Joe Cool lived up to his name.He was a handsome black and white boy.I remember his first night there at Sids.I was looking all over for this new guy named JoeCool and then I saw this white paw sticking out from under a chair.I looked under there and saw the cutest white nose and it was love!! He will be missed by all of us.Thank you all for being here for me. Sherry - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Overjoyed
Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe.?Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and?Minstral?is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean?Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.
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Hi Sue, Yes, when you reply to a message, it goes out to everyone. Usually, if you reply to the list from an email address different than the one you registered with, I don't believe the message goes through unless someone (James, maybe?) sees what's going on an manually puts it through. I've accidentally replied from a different email address a number of times, and it's going through now, though I don't think they used to. I have a very aggressive spam filter set up with my email provider, and a number of messages got tagged earlier this week. Maybe those are the ones to which you refer? That might be why you didn't receive the mails. I'm not sure that there is any particular help regarding these issues, other than the message you should have received when you signed up. Hope that helps. Lance On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:12:27 -0500, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Help! I seem to be having trouble getting around in this talk group. Are there directions anywhere on the website that would help? Or a FeLV talk for dummies message? I just went into the archives and found out I had missed some messages that were directed to me. When I reply to a message does it go out to everyone? I have noticed that when I write something from home it has our names under the from line and when I write from work it has my e-mail address there. Thanks for any help, Sue -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In your case, you're using the same email address from two different locations. I check my mail at 3 or 4 or 5 different locations, so sometimes it looks like G. Lane and sometimes Gloria and sometimes variations of that. So - Regarding the name - your name gets associated with your email address in the settings/options in the particular location - in the computers mail client (program). For example, with the first message you sent from home you used Outlook Express, as I recall, and you've set it up with your and your husbands names. However the one at your work place doesn't have this association, so it just uses the email addy.With Outlooks Express, I believe you set it at Tools-Accounts- Properties. Sometimes you'll need to look for settings to set your name. Anyhow - hope this helps. Gloria On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Lance, Actually when I got to work this morning I found the ones that had not come through at home last night in my spam file. All the messages that come to work go into my spam file even though I have the FeLV talk e-mail set up in my contact list. I guess I will just have to play with it and get used to the way it works. Thanks, Sue Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, Yes, when you reply to a message, it goes out to everyone. Usually, if you reply to the list from an email address different than the one you registered with, I don't believe the message goes through unless someone (James, maybe?) sees what's going on an manually puts it through. I've accidentally replied from a different email address a number of times, and it's going through now, though I don't think they used to. I have a very aggressive spam filter set up with my email provider, and a number of messages got tagged earlier this week. Maybe those are the ones to which you refer? That might be why you didn't receive the mails. I'm not sure that there is any particular help regarding these issues, other than the message you should have received when you signed up. Hope that helps. Lance On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:12:27 -0500, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Help! I seem to be having trouble getting around in this talk group. Are there directions anywhere on the website that would help? Or a FeLV talk for dummies message? I just went into the archives and found out I had missed some messages that were directed to me. When I reply to a message does it go out to everyone? I have noticed that when I write something from home it has our names under the from line and when I write from work it has my e-mail address there. Thanks for any help, Sue -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BooBoo is home!!
That would be Immuno-Regulin. You will be getting lots of testimonials from people on this list about it. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Thank you Kerri. While still staring at the bloodwork and not believing what I was seeing, the vet did say something about immuno something, being given for 2 weeks at a time. He was going to contact a pharmacy and get the information for me. I suspect Dr. Gill isn't too terribly experienced with FelV but he seems very willing to work with the problem. I think most people around here tend to euthanize them. We have a large feral cat problem in this City and the receptionist said they have seen several cases of it lately. Again, people choose to euthanize. I guess I can understand why they would, a lot of people aren't prepared to invest a lot of emotion and money into what lies ahead. For the time being we'll just live life normally and indulge Boo and deal with problems as they arise. Lynne - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: RE: BooBoo is home!! Dear Lynne So glad BooBoo is back home safely. And, I'm so glad BooBoo found you and your husband. These people that had him are not good people. I hope they're out of your and BooBoo's life now. When I discovered 4 of my foster kittens had FeLV, I was in shock. I realized they now had to become my kittens, (they were also feral), as their adoption chances were so low (nil?). I guess what kept me going was the fact that these little souls were now at least warm and cared for (they'd been eking out a dangerous existence in sub-zero temps in someone's yard) and never had to worry about where to find their next meal again. That made me feel good. I got back much, much more. Yes, there were painful times, but knowing I did the best possible job I could to ensure their quality of life made it worth it. And Mickey threw off the virus anyway! Remember what a wonderful home you are giving to little BooBoo. Most folks want nothing to do with sick and special needs animals. You are doing something very special in adding BooBoo to your family. He may not be able to talk but I'll bet he's already letting you know how appreciative he is. I wanted to forward you this email before I leave work that I sent to someone else a while ago on immuno regulin. I was too late in getting it to use it for my Flavia, but everything I heard and read, from the folks here, and in the articles made it seem worth trying. And it wasn't expensive. Good luck! hugs to you and BooBoo, Kerry M. Dear Ken, Welcome, though I'm very sorry for the reason you had to find us. You sound like a very caring person and I'm also sorry you've found a vet who is unwilling to work with you. (I myself don't know any vets in Northern Jersey but perhaps others on the list will.) Here's the name tel # of the supplier (Revival Animal Health in Iowa) who fedexed it to 2 clinics for me overnight in July. (Total per 1 package inc shipping was $50---relatively inexpensive,) Both the vets I used/found were willing to try it even tho they had never used it before. I had to help one of them figure out the protocol using the info you'll see here. While I haven't yet had time to organise all the following into one coherent report--it's a number of emails rolled into one--I think it does contain some very background info including 3 articles.. Sending lots of healing vibes to your little Max. I highly recommend you order the IR asap and have it overnighted in the hope you'll have found an enlightened vet by the time it arrives. I left it too late. Please keep us posted when you have time. You will find this group a very caring and supportive bunch of people--it's been a godsend to me and my FeLV cats (it may be a bit slow on the weekend). Wishing very good luck to you and Max. (I'm in a timecrunch at work so have to sign off now, but fire away ANY Qs you have and others will jump in.) Kerry IR INFO: Revival's tel no is 800 786 4751. (Revival is the supplier I used.) While I sadly did not order the Immuno regulin in time to be able to use it, the Revival people were good to deal with and the IR arrived at both vet clinics that I had it sent directly to when it was supposed to (ie overnighted by Fedex). I had never ordered it before and neither vet had ever used it but they were both very positive about doing so and liaised with me about the protocol/how much to use---it comes with directions
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Lynne it is so great that BooBoo has a great appetite. That will help him enormously. There is a yahoo group called 'Raw Paws' that is devoted to natural diets for cats. There are very knowledgeable people on the list, as well as vets who think that a diet that is 'species appropriate' is the best diet for cats. You might check it out at some point. I understand your despair at discovering BooBoo's FeLV. Just know that it is not a death sentence and that you may discover that the process of caring for him and helping him thrive may be one of your most rewarding experiences. We've all gone through shock and depression, and it seems that FeLV kitties are the most wonderful and loving ones ever. Just know that there is hope and that if you can educate yourself as to the best treatments and supplements and care, you'll help him fight the battle. I've gone through the shock and depression of discovering my kittie was Felv. That was 11months ago. As I type this she is flying around the kitchen terrorizing two Scotties. Keep him purring. Jane On Feb 8, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Lynne wrote: Pat, BooBoo is a little pig cat. He would eat all day long if we'd feed him. He's eaten a whole can of tuna since he got home from the vet as well as some hard food and is still wanting more. Tuna in spring water seems to be his favorite. He also likes a bit of sardines for snack. I bought him a really good dry and canned food at the vets but he only seems to like the hard stuff. You know, our first cat, Chuck, who lived to 19 was a very finicky eater. Actually his favorite foods were chicken and steak. He also ate some hard crunchies but that cat loved chicken more than anything. We used to buy a bunch of friers and bake them and make up a bunch of meals in bags for him. If we ate beef, he got beef. It couldn't have been too harmful because he lived a long and healthy life. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
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Ah, my Chuck used to sleep on my chest. Lennie, our present geriatric cat has become much more affectionate toward me since Boo has come. Len is a guys cat, has always been my husband's boy and when our son was at home, his boy. Now he actually wants to sleep on my lap. He still weighs 12 lbs but was a much heftier guy a couple years ago. BooBoo is supposedly the runt of his litter but weighs 9 lbs 4 oz so he's a good size. I'm going to try to sort out all the suggestions regarding feeding and give them the same diet. I think I will get some liver and beef and see if BooBoo will eat that as well as his regular food and tuna. I think he should have more iron in his diet. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Mandy is also a little pig catshe is absolutely tiny (about 5 lbs.) but she eats constantly--and will eat just about anything. She, like your Chuck, prefers chicken--so I buy the Wellness chicken canned food. She is deaf but I swear somehow she knows when the refrigerator door opens--'cause she's right there. I believe she would jump inside if I didn't watch closely. And if there is ANY kind of chicken nearby she does her wild animal act and grabs/growls. She is really a fun kitty. I got her from a shelter for my birthday last July--and I fell in love immediately. She sleeps on top of me each night (taking several breaks to visit the food dish). Love to you and BooBoo. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Pat, BooBoo is a little pig cat. He would eat all day long if we'd feed him. He's eaten a whole can of tuna since he got home from the vet as well as some hard food and is still wanting more. Tuna in spring water seems to be his favorite. He also likes a bit of sardines for snack. I bought him a really good dry and canned food at the vets but he only seems to like the hard stuff. You know, our first cat, Chuck, who lived to 19 was a very finicky eater. Actually his favorite foods were chicken and steak. He also ate some hard crunchies but that cat loved chicken more than anything. We used to buy a bunch of friers and bake them and make up a bunch of meals in bags for him. If we ate beef, he got beef. It couldn't have been too harmful because he lived a long and healthy life. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
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- Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
RE: spooked about vaccinations
Marie: There's lost of info out there now about over-vaccination, so it's something to look into. You can google that term as it is related to cats and you will find a ton of info. If the cat is healthy, then generally vaccinations are safe. However, it's important to realize that a vaccination triggers an immune response in the body. In a cat with a defective immune system due to Felv, this can definitely cause additional problems. Vaccines are stressful even for a healthy cat and many people are getting away from doing them. The frequent adverse reactions that a completely healthy cat will have to a Rabies and/or an FVRCP shot I believe is evidence of the fact that they are stressful to the cat's body and immune system. A lot of vets- with homeopathic/holistic mostly leading the charge, but conventional vets are doing it now too- now recommend running titers to detect any antibodies in the blood first before doing any vaccs. If there are antibodies present in the blood already, there really isn't a need for that vacc. I recommend asking your vet merely to check for titers first before considering any additional vaccs. As to the Rabies shot, there is new evidence out there now that appears to demonstrate that one Rabies shot should be sufficient, especially for an indoor cat, for the lenght of the cat's life. Another thing to google is the incidence of rabies in felines in your areaI bet you it's non-existent. Because rabies is not the problem it used to be and one shot appears to protect a cat for life, a lot of people are moving away from having rabies done again. There is a waiver form your vet can fill out and you submit that allows you to get out of having a rabies done. My holistic vet has mentioned doing this many times. I personally haven't done this yet, but I know a lot of people on the FIP support group who are doing this now. Many of them feel that vaccines are one of the triggers for a cat who mutates the coronavirus into FIP. Many of them had perfectly healthy cats until just after first shots and/or boosters were done, so they are on the cutting edge of the anti-vaccine movement currently and most of the information I am passing on to you I have gotten from them and also my holistic vet. Since I feel that Brumley most likely had FIP, I also wonder if the vaccs he was given when already stressed from being at Animal Control as a baby, not being nursed long enough, if at all, being neutered immediately at 2 lbs, suffering from reoccurring URIs and being vaccinated on top of all that, could definitely have been the trigger for that poor little guy's body inappropriate mutation of the coronavirus into FIP. So I am myself taking a serious look at the vaccine issue and plan to go the titer route when it comes to my cats needed boosters, etc. I will try to get more direct info from the FIP group (website links with info, etc.) and pass it on to this site. caroline Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:36:44 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: spooked about vaccinationsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hello, I haven't been posting in a while. A year ago, I had a cat who died within several weeks of being dx with feline leukemia. Other than ocassionally sneezing, Cakooie seemed like a healthy kitty. He was my first cat, so there was a lot i didn't know about feline dieases. But he ate well and was playful. Then three weeks after he had his vaccinations, he went down quickly. His sister, Chica, has tested negative twice within 90 days. I think she will be okay. It's time to have her vaccinations again, and I'm just scared because of what happened to my other cat. I know the vaccinations didn't cause him to get leukemia. I think they did make him worse. He was vaccinated for rabies and distemper. Chica is an indoor cat, so I don't know what vaccinations she really needs. Rabies is required. She probably should get a booster for distemper. Do you think after two negative tests and a good checkup that it is safe to assume she's felv free? Are vaccinations generally safe? Thanks for your input. Marie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan
Re: spooked about vaccinations
Marie, this is all new to me, but according to my vet, cats with feline leukemia do not get the same vaccinations as healthy cats, so it may very well have been what hastened your cat's demise. I'm not even going to have him vaccinated for anything at this point. Personally if an animal is strictly an indoor cat, I'm not sure they're all that necessary, but in your case, I would hold off for a longer time. Lynne - Original Message - From: MarieG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: spooked about vaccinations Hello, I haven't been posting in a while. A year ago, I had a cat who died within several weeks of being dx with feline leukemia. Other than ocassionally sneezing, Cakooie seemed like a healthy kitty. He was my first cat, so there was a lot i didn't know about feline dieases. But he ate well and was playful. Then three weeks after he had his vaccinations, he went down quickly. His sister, Chica, has tested negative twice within 90 d ays. I think she will be okay. It's time to have her vaccinations again, and I'm just scared because of what happened to my other cat. I know the vaccinations didn't cause him to get leukemia. I think they did make him worse. He was vaccinated for rabies and distemper. Chica is an indoor cat, so I don't know what vaccinations she really needs. Rabies is required. She probably should get a booster for distemper. Do you think after two negative tests and a good checkup that it is safe to assume she's felv free? Are vaccinations generally safe? Thanks for your input. Marie -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Boo Boo
Good job Boo Boo came to you when he did. There's so much good information and experience from people here and I can't add to it cos I tend to ask questions when needed co sof the experience of people here. At least he is safe now and free from those dreadful ignorant previous owners who sound like are not worth dealing with. Although I'm here no with Minstrel's good news I've not been so lucky in the past and lost 3 cats who didn't make it despite my efforts. They too had a rough start in life but the one thing I am sure of is that every second of love and care they got from me made their lives a lot better and helped give them the comfort and safety they needed to cope with arising sickness issues. Giving them tlc and safety along with whatever medical care is appropriate is the biggest gift they can have. As someone said it maybe flea anaemia and nutrition etc could make a huge difference. Previous owners hadn't got a clue about the cats health needs so I doubt they cared about nutrition needs. He will know he is loved and safe and that will make a huge difference to how he feels in himself xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble PS - sending prayers and strength to those who have recently lost a furbaby as I noticed a couple of posts about angel furbabies - they will be restored to health and snuggling up keeping our soft fluffy cushions warm until we get there xxx
Re: spooked about vaccinations
Hi Marie I share your fear of unnecessary vaccinations. A vet I use, who is very enlightened, recommended a book entitled Vaccine Guide for Dogs and Cats by Catherine Diodati. http://books.google.com/books?id=brILCAAJdq=Catherine+JM +Diodatihl=enprev=http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=Catherine +DiodatibtnG=Google+Searchsa=Xoi=printct=resultcd=1cad=author- navigational Google Catherine Diodati for her credentials and then get the book. It is astonishing to learn how we have been misled and misinformed about vaccinations and also how harmful they can be for an animal who's immunity is suppressed. I was flabbergasted when I read it, and I have become very careful and selective about vaccinations. I would strongly recommend the book to everyone who loves animals. Dr Richard Pitcairn wrote the intro. It is carefully researched and documented. It is not in the 'lunatic fringe' realm. Jane Hello, I haven't been posting in a while. A year ago, I had a cat who died within several weeks of being dx with feline leukemia. Other than ocassionally sneezing, Cakooie seemed like a healthy kitty. He was my first cat, so there was a lot i didn't know about feline dieases. But he ate well and was playful. Then three weeks after he had his vaccinations, he went down quickly. His sister, Chica, has tested negative twice within 90 days. I think she will be okay. It's time to have her vaccinations again, and I'm just scared because of what happened to my other cat. I know the vaccinations didn't cause him to get leukemia. I think they did make him worse. He was vaccinated for rabies and distemper. Chica is an indoor cat, so I don't know what vaccinations she really needs. Rabies is required. She probably should get a booster for distemper. Do you think after two negative tests and a good checkup that it is safe to assume she's felv free? Are vaccinations generally safe? Thanks for your input. Marie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: BooBoo is home!!
Sounds like you need some time to digest all these suggestions.keep us up to date on BooBoo. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Ah, my Chuck used to sleep on my chest. Lennie, our present geriatric cat has become much more affectionate toward me since Boo has come. Len is a guys cat, has always been my husband's boy and when our son was at home, his boy. Now he actually wants to sleep on my lap. He still weighs 12 lbs but was a much heftier guy a couple years ago. BooBoo is supposedly the runt of his litter but weighs 9 lbs 4 oz so he's a good size. I'm going to try to sort out all the suggestions regarding feeding and give them the same diet. I think I will get some liver and beef and see if BooBoo will eat that as well as his regular food and tuna. I think he should have more iron in his diet. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Mandy is also a little pig catshe is absolutely tiny (about 5 lbs.) but she eats constantly--and will eat just about anything. She, like your Chuck, prefers chicken--so I buy the Wellness chicken canned food. She is deaf but I swear somehow she knows when the refrigerator door opens--'cause she's right there. I believe she would jump inside if I didn't watch closely. And if there is ANY kind of chicken nearby she does her wild animal act and grabs/growls. She is really a fun kitty. I got her from a shelter for my birthday last July--and I fell in love immediately. She sleeps on top of me each night (taking several breaks to visit the food dish). Love to you and BooBoo. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Pat, BooBoo is a little pig cat. He would eat all day long if we'd feed him. He's eaten a whole can of tuna since he got home from the vet as well as some hard food and is still wanting more. Tuna in spring water seems to be his favorite. He also likes a bit of sardines for snack. I bought him a really good dry and canned food at the vets but he only seems to like the hard stuff. You know, our first cat, Chuck, who lived to 19 was a very finicky eater. Actually his favorite foods were chicken and steak. He also ate some hard crunchies but that cat loved chicken more than anything. We used to buy a bunch of friers and bake them and make up a bunch of meals in bags for him. If we ate beef, he got beef. It couldn't have been too harmful because he lived a long and healthy life. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
Re: BooBoo is home!!
Mandy is also a little pig catshe is absolutely tiny (about 5 lbs.) but she eats constantly--and will eat just about anything. She, like your Chuck, prefers chicken--so I buy the Wellness chicken canned food. She is deaf but I swear somehow she knows when the refrigerator door opens--'cause she's right there. I believe she would jump inside if I didn't watch closely. And if there is ANY kind of chicken nearby she does her wild animal act and grabs/growls. She is really a fun kitty. I got her from a shelter for my birthday last July--and I fell in love immediately. She sleeps on top of me each night (taking several breaks to visit the food dish). Love to you and BooBoo. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Pat, BooBoo is a little pig cat. He would eat all day long if we'd feed him. He's eaten a whole can of tuna since he got home from the vet as well as some hard food and is still wanting more. Tuna in spring water seems to be his favorite. He also likes a bit of sardines for snack. I bought him a really good dry and canned food at the vets but he only seems to like the hard stuff. You know, our first cat, Chuck, who lived to 19 was a very finicky eater. Actually his favorite foods were chicken and steak. He also ate some hard crunchies but that cat loved chicken more than anything. We used to buy a bunch of friers and bake them and make up a bunch of meals in bags for him. If we ate beef, he got beef. It couldn't have been too harmful because he lived a long and healthy life. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
spooked about vaccinations
Hello, I haven't been posting in a while. A year ago, I had a cat who died within several weeks of being dx with feline leukemia. Other than ocassionally sneezing, Cakooie seemed like a healthy kitty. He was my first cat, so there was a lot i didn't know about feline dieases. But he ate well and was playful. Then three weeks after he had his vaccinations, he went down quickly. His sister, Chica, has tested negative twice within 90 days. I think she will be okay. It's time to have her vaccinations again, and I'm just scared because of what happened to my other cat. I know the vaccinations didn't cause him to get leukemia. I think they did make him worse. He was vaccinated for rabies and distemper. Chica is an indoor cat, so I don't know what vaccinations she really needs. Rabies is required. She probably should get a booster for distemper. Do you think after two negative tests and a good checkup that it is safe to assume she's felv free? Are vaccinations generally safe? Thanks for your input. Marie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: Diet and Nutrition links
Primal Raw is frozen in cubes and fairly widely available...in your area at Metzghers (forgive the spelling) in Simpsonville. Check out the website. I am vegetarian and have problems fixing canned food, much less raw for my friends.Obviously I manage but this makes it so much easier. On Feb 6, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: Hey guys. Below is a message from one of the members of the FIP support group I recently joined on behalf of Brumley. I asked her again for her referral to the sites devoted to better diet and nutrition for cats. I planned to join once things calmed down with Brumley because keeping up with the FIP group and the assisted feeding support group got to be too much! But I did want to pass this onto the new FELV members as something to consider for the care of your babies. Diet is unbelievably important and there has been nothing short of a revolution as of late regarding what we should be feeding our companion animals- and in particular, felines, who are all descendants of the big cats in Africa and when we snuggle them and kiss their noses, etc., I think we tend to forget that! I am not saying everyone has to go the raw food route- altho Monkee did when his anemia from Felv kicked in and he loved it! urgh, too little too late...but I know better now and I just want other people to maybe benefit from that). So add investigating and researching the diet issue onto your to-do list. And keep in mind that you don't have to commit to the raw diet-- if you do the research, you will find the particular premium canned foods that are as close as you can get to the benefits of raw. I hope this helps! caroline Absolutely. The more cats we get off commercial diets the less death we'll see. Cats are carnivores. They eat meat ... fresh meat ... not rotted, old, diseased garbage, left over meat from rendering plants. And not grains. They can't even digest grains and vegetables. Here ya go. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/WholeCatHealth/ http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawcat/ God Bless Cats ... the most beautiful and perfect carnivores on the planet. How lucky we are that they like us and they're not the size of dinosaurs. Happy Tail and Biscuits on the Back, Bonnie Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®- get your fix. Check it out.
Vaccines- To Marie
Marie: Here's the info from the FIP site I promised. Dr Blake states his opinion and that of Dr Richard Pitcairn and others on his website at http://www.thepetwhisperer.com/Vaccinations.html He also lists a large number of links giving information about vaccinations for animals and your whole family. There is no reason to vaccinate a healthy indoor cat ... much less one who is already compromised. Dr Blake has signed a medical exception form for his patients who are ill or have conditions that a rabies shot would cause damage to or further compromise an existing condition. Alot of conventional vets will refuse to do it but most holistic/homeopathic vets will. You may have to look for someone willing to put their signature on the line. From Anne Martin; One person/university setting that comes to mind is Ron Schultz at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. He's the one, you might recall, who did the landmark (and generally ignored, though scientifically validated) work years ago that demonstrated that booster vaccines are useless, since they confer no 'additional immunity' whatsoever owing to the presence of antibodies from previous vaccines. The implications this has for how vet clinics do business are staggering. He also, as I understand it, is the one who lobbied for and got the financing to do a seven-year study, just started, looking at the REAL length of immunity conferred by one rabies vaccine. Hope that gets you what you need Caroline _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
Isabella update
Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood count is below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive test). Disappointing but not surprising. Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred if things go well with discontinuing the tramadal. All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance. Laurie -
RE: Overjoyed
This happened with one of my cats, so I know how you feel! It is great that someone else can experience this as well. Give Minstrel a special treat from all of usJ Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Overjoyed What wonderful, and, sadly, rare good news! Long happy life to Minstrel and congratulatory hugs to you. Diane R. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Overjoyed Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe. Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and Minstral is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble _ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a HYPERLINK http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/; \ntour now. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1267 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 8:12 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1267 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 8:12 PM
Re: Isabella update
Considering where she was last summer Laurie, your news is hopeful. Hoping that she has a smooth transition from the pain meds. She is a trooper. Jane On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:10 PM, laurieskatz wrote: Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood count is below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive test). Disappointing but not surprising. Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred if things go well with discontinuing the tramadal. All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance. Laurie -
Re: Isabella update
I'm sorry the news wasn't better Laurie. Did your vet give you a copy of Isabella's white blood count. If so what was it. BooBoo's was 9.9 today. How does that compare? Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Isabella update Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood count is below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive test). Disappointing but not surprising. Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred if things go well with discontinuing the tramadal. All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance. Laurie -
Re: Isabella update
Isabella's white blood count was 3,400 - normal is 3,700-20,500. Sounds like a different scale than yours, Lynne. I love this vet as we stay in touch by email so I snet her an email this evening asking what significance this reading is. I am disappointed that things aren't perfect but oh my, she is so much better than last summer. We are so grateful for her weight gain and happy countenance! We had many scares and almost as many miracles with kitties in the past year. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Isabella update I'm sorry the news wasn't better Laurie. Did your vet give you a copy of Isabella's white blood count. If so what was it. BooBoo's was 9.9 today. How does that compare? Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Isabella update Well, Isabella's blood work came back mostly good. Her white blood count is below normal~ around where it was last summer. That was disappointing. Her FELV test from yesterday came back positive (this is her third positive test). Disappointing but not surprising. Her vet is having us stop giving the pain med and wants to reduce the pred if things go well with discontinuing the tramadal. All in all her vet is pleased with her current health and appearance. Laurie -
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Hi As soon as Junior and Tiny tested positive and I was able to set up the injcetions at the vet's office both received it. Tiny was asymptomatic and Junior had been through a lot, including anemia, uvetis, a URI, and recurring fevers. Junior is still with me over a year later. I may put him back on it as a monthly subQ injection. Right now I am just feeding him as healthy as I can. Tiny died a month and a half after DX. He never really seemed sick and it is likely the sudden death was unrelated to the FELV. I would go ahead and give your kitty the IR now. Sally On Feb 8, 2008 9:32 PM, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Re: Overjoyed
I'm so happy for you!!!:):) On Feb 8, 2008 7:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to bring a positive note to you all. I took my FeLV girl Minstrel to the vet last week to check her mouth cos she was showing dental signs. I'd had her checked at New Year just before Buddy (FIV+) passed away and her gums were a little inflammed but not severe. Last Friday she had 3 wobbly teeth and red gums so she'd had root infection travel down. The vet said the pathology looked like what any cat can get and not specifically just related to FeLV. She had 5 teeth out on Tuesday and came home trying to get in the bag of cat biscuits bless her - but she is eating well soft food complete with antibiotics sprinkled over and some painkiller for couple of days. Anyway, whilst she was having pre-op bloods taken I asked them to re-check her FeLV status as I know occassionally cats can rid themselves of the virus and I just wanted to know either way. The vet phoned this morning whenthe blood results came back from the lab and Minstral is now FeLV negative :-) I didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I think I'll be opening the champagne tonight. I could now even consider introducing a new cat into the house (would obviously have to be FeLV - though but would mean Minstrel has company when I'm at work - and helping any cat is better than helping none. Need to book leave from work and consider carefully before that though - but what a nice surprise. hugs and good wishes to all your kitties xxx Michelle, Minstrel, Angel Buddy Angel Bramble AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour now. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it. It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo. She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed. Asymptomatic Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and act like a normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment which is really key for Felv+ cats. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Immuno-Regullin and exerciseDate: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500 When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise. _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
Immuno-Regullin and exercise
When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I would think you generally start now, before symptoms. When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. Gloria On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Sue Frank Koren wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
