Re: [Felvtalk] Great Topic: Husbands and cats

[Bonnie Hogue]

That's a beautiful story, Tazzy.  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: ter...@tazzys.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Great Topic: Husbands and cats

My father was not a cat person, but when he became very ill and needed me
sometimes thru the night he would ring a glass bell we kept by his bed.
Snuggles went to his room about 3 months before he passed and would not
leave his bed.  He stayed on the foot and when father rang the bell, he
would come into my room to get me.  He would wake me if I had not heard the
bell and if I had, he would walk in front of me and turn ever so often and
meow as if to say hurry.  The Sunday morning father passed, Snug left his
room afterwards and never went back.  He passed the next week.  It was as if
he had a mission, it was completed and now he could go also.  They do know,
even better than we do when it is time for someone to leave.
 ter...@tazzys.org wrote: 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

[Bonnie Hogue]

It is a great honor for the cat to bring you their "kill"...I've always
praised the cat then disposed of the item (sometimes this frustrates the
cat, so you have to decide if it's best to give it back so you don't have a
cat going nuts looking for the mouse he just brought you).  My mom's cat
Lucky is the best hunter I've ever seen: possum, rats, birds, etc.   Hard on
wildlife though.  Now he's "retired" and living indoors at my house.  He's
gotten a little fat, but otherwise seems fine with his new status.
I have to believe that the cat's body can deal pretty effectively with the
results to hunting, for the most part.  I know the world is different today
with the introduction by mankind of poisons to the environment.  Hopefully
we can help keep our cats healthy, even if we can't 100% control their
behavior.
~B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:01 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

Unfortunately, every time they kill wildlife and eat at least part of them,
they can become exposed to parasites, mainly roundworm..which means
using poisons to get rid of them

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats eating grass, insects, etc.

Copper and Thomas like to go to the garage to hunt---farm, lizards, snakes
etc come in and need to be removed from the genetic pool---cats have
occupied the house for too long for them to have an excuse for coming in.  I
usually leave the door to the garage open so the boys can come and go.  They
love to bring me their trophies and will even bring them into our
bedroommore often alive than dead.  I tell them how proud I am of them
and their hunting skills--and I really am.  Then I take their trophies out
to show all the world how great they are.  Cats...aren't they
great?
On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Georgetta Brickey wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> I usually just lurk on this list, but had to share a short story from 
> the recent past.
>
> We have a set of security screen doors on our front door and tend to 
> leave the interior solid door open for cooling breezes, sometimes all 
> night in warm weather.  There is a tiny 1/4 in. gap at the bottom of 
> the screen doors.  One morning I walked out and found a
> lizard tail (just the tail) on the rug just inside the front door.   
> Apparently a lizard came exploring under the door and one of our  
> family felines got into some midnight mischief.   Hope the rest of  
> the lizard got back outside, but it was a bit of a shock to pick up 
> the "string" then realize it was a 6-7 inch lizard tail first thing in 
> the a.m.  A real wake up experience!
>
> Georgetta in Ventura, CA  
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Sunscreens increase skin cancer....

[Bonnie Hogue]

Keep ranting, Lynda.  People need to know about this stuff and take Action!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sunscreens increase skin cancer

Sounds like the FDA is no different than the TCEQ (Texas Commission on
Environmental Quality) or the  RRC (Railroad Commission) on the
drilling/fracking issues we have in my home town.

We have dogs with rare forms of cancer caused by drilling. All were healthy
until drilling occurred close to their property. Coincidence? I think
not

We have a cluster of kids in my town with leukemia. My friend was diagnosed
with Multiple Myeloma, which generally effect elderly African-Amer men. She
is a Caucasian and less than 40 yrs. old. One of her doctor's asked her if
she ever lived by gas wells, guess what her answer was? Yup, you are
correct.

Sorry for the rant, I'm sick of these agencies/gov that don't protect us
like they should.

L

- Original Message -
From: "Natalie" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sunscreens increase skin cancer


> We were "talking" about the FDA last week - here's another perfect example
> of how one cannot even trust them on something as simple as sunscreen
> ingredients! And all this, WITH what we think are strict regulations - and
> those who want to do away with ALL regulations, making it easier for big
> corporations to make more money, makes one wonder whether they ever 
> consider
> even their own families in their quest for more and more profits?
>
>
>
> Whom can one trust, if the FDA, supposedly protecting us from bad things,
> has known all this? What else is it they keep under their hats?
>
>
>
> Study:  Many sunscreens increase skin cancer risk, FDA has known for a
> decade but done nothing
>
>
>
>
> A new report issued by the consumer protection organization Environmental
> Working Group (EWG) reveals that many popular sunscreens contain 
> ingredients
> known to spur the growth and spread of skin cancer cells, which defeats
> their stated purpose...
>
> http://www.naturalnews.com/032996_sunscreen_cancer_risk.html
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

[Bonnie Hogue]

Hi Everyone

Life can be stressful sometimes.

My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat.  I
took my mom's cat, Lucky,  last Fall, and he's become part of the household
very nicely.  This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little
one.  I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a
growth on her tongue.  He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking
her up in a couple hours.

 

The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare.
And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put
her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back.  But I don't want
her to be freaked out or too frightened.  I'm hoping that instead of a three
weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two.

 

This will make FIVE indoor cats for me.  I've never had so many.  The vet
said, "Well, four or five isn't much different."  Bless him.

 

What's the conventional wisdom out there?  Leave her in the room 7-14 days,
or longer?

 

Thanks for your input!

Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks for your responses!  I appreciate it.
Princess got the in-office Felv test and was negative (thank goodness).  The
biopsy result should be available Mon. or Tue. but the vet said "it looked
rather nasty"...
Poor little think peed in the cage and now smells pretty bad.  I'm thinking
of bathing her (more trauma!) but want to give her a few days to acclimate.
She finally came out from under the bed this morning and let me pet her
while she ate.  What a little sweetheart.  She has the prettiest little
"pointy" face.  She looks like she is smiling.   And she purred while I pet
her, so hopefully she understands she is not in danger.
Will keep you posted!
B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style

Hi Bonnie, 

Thank you for taking your aunt's cat.  From description you gave us, it
sounds like Princess will be no problem at all to integrate into your
household.  I think she will be more comfortable confined to one room at
first, as it is overwhelming to have an entire house plus 4 other cats all
at once.

Your vet is correct.. Five cats are no more trouble than four.  
I thought I had a lot when I took in my fifth cat, and now I have 15
All rescued.  Thankfully our house is large and they also have three outdoor
enclosures they can access from the house. 

Let us know what the biopsy results show.  I hope she is FelV neg.
and the biopsy is benign.

Lorrie

 
On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> Hi Everyone
> 
> Life can be stressful sometimes.
> 
> My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her 
> cat.  I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of 
> the household very nicely.  This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and 
> mild-mannered little one.  I took her to the vet today for a checkup 
> and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue.
> He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple 
> hours.
> 
> The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to 
> prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week 
> (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes 
> back.  But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened.
> I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her 
> in a week or two.

> This will make FIVE indoor cats for me.  I've never had so many. 
> The vet said, "Well, four or five isn't much different." Bless him.
> 
> What's the conventional wisdom out there?  Leave her in the room
> 7-14 days, or longer?
> 
> Thanks for your input!
> 
> Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

[Bonnie Hogue]

If I may...
The IFA is more expensive, but results are more reliable.  My vest advised, "If 
the snap (vet's office) test is positive, you need to do IFA.  If the snap is 
negative, you probably don't need IFA."
Good for you for trying to be as sure as you can be.  And thank you for helping 
our furry friends!
Buena suerte!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molvey...@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:37 PM
To: Ana Gutierrez
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

I think the standard snap test which just looks for FIV & FeLV is probably more 
reliable than the triple test.  Not sure though.

The IFA that Natalie mentioned looks to see if the virus has gotten into the 
white blood cells, and if so then the cat will not get rid of the virus and you 
can say for sure he's FeLV positive.  But if it is just in his bloodstream, 
which is what the snap test checks, then the cat still has a chance of getting 
rid of the virus.  Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

So you have a couple of  options  - 

You can do another snap test to make sure the first one was right, or you can 
go ahead and do the IFA test.

If you do another snap test and it comes out negative then you don't need to do 
anything else.  But if the second snap test is positive then you'll need to do 
more testing.

If you skip the  snap test and go ahead and do an IFA test right now  to see if 
the virus is in his white blood cells, and it's positive then you know for sure 
that he will not be able to get rid of the virus.  However if it is negative, 
then you will need to do another test in a few months to see if the virus is 
present then because it could be in his blood stream now but not go to his 
white blood cells for another few months.

Basically, you need two tests that match.


sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

- Reply message -
From: "Ana Gutierrez" 
Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 6:30 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
To: "molvey...@hotmail.com" 
Cc: 


Hi!

Thanks for your answer Yes, I can retest them... my doubt is, which test 
should I use? Which one is the most reliable?


Thanks!
Ana


On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:28 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:

> Can you afford to re-test them right now?  I'm just wondering if one 
> or maybe both of the tests on the kitties were wrong.  I've heard 
> those triple snap test are a little less reliable.
>
> Are these adults or kittens?
>
>
> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Ana Gutierrez" 
> Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 5:49 pm
> Subject: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties
> To: 
>
> Dear all,
>
> It's been a while since I haven't posted to the list. Since my Beltza 
> passed away, last year
> I am still in debt with you guys for all the support you gave me with her..
>
> I cannot remember if I told you that I run a very small cat shelter in 
> Cuernavaca, México, where I live.
>
> Recently, we rescued two kitties which turned out to be FeLV positive 
> (on a triple SNAP test, FeLV, FIV and HW, Idexx brand). These two cats 
> are not siblings, they come from different litters from different 
> parts of México City.
> We are aware that they need to be retested in 3 months in order to be 
> completely sure that they are FeLV positive.
>
> However, I have a lot of doubts and this is the reason of why I am 
> posting again...
> We want to find nice and responsible families for these two kitties. 
> Does these kitties need to be adopted as the only cat in the house? 
> Can they share their lives with other cats? FeLV negative as long as 
> they have their vaccines up-to-date? Can we give them together in 
> adoption? Can they share their lives with other FeLV positive cats?
> We are also aware of the huge responsibility that is in our hands at 
> the



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

[Bonnie Hogue]

Does owning a cat make you sexier?

Well, judging by the cats clamoring for my attention, I'd say there is
*some* kind of "animal magnetism" that I exude!
:=)
Bonnie


Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?


HA HA HA, yes people seem VERY surprised when they meet me because my name
is Edna and I am in cat rescue.  Naturally, their minds go to the crazy cat
lady on the Simpsons but that is just not the case ;)
 

> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:46:31 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?
> 
> http://www.catster.com/cats-101/does-owning-a-cat-make-you-sexier 
> 
> 
> 
> No, we're NOT a bunch of little old ladies in tennis shoes...
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
  
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wow, Hang On to _that_ guy!!!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

well, I don't know whether it makes me sexier but I do have a really cute
boyfriend who has four cats. When I met him he told me he was a cat person
and not too crazy about dogs. That certainly got my attention since most
men have felt threatened by my 4-legged family members.  I would say it
definitely makes him sexier, especially since he's the only person I know
who can give a cat a bath.


From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 9:46 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic - Does owning a cat make you sexier?

http://www.catster.com/cats-101/does-owning-a-cat-make-you-sexier 



No, we're NOT a bunch of little old ladies in tennis shoes...

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Moving Critters in the road

[Bonnie Hogue]

And I cannot abide a dead feline in the road.  I always move them and say a
prayer.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 12:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Moving Critters in the road

You are so right We are a throw away nation and our pets are tossed
out like so much garbage!

BTW,   I stop and move turtles or snakes out of the road too.

Lorrie
  
On 08-06, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> tHAT IS WHY OUR NATION IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN.  tHE ECONOMY IS BASED 
> ON THROWAWAY AND BUY A NEW ONE.  cAR GETS A DENT, TRADE IT.
> WE THROW AWAY CHILDREN AND/OR ABUSE THEM, DISCARD SPOUSES LIKE A USED 
> PAPER CUP.  THE POOR ANIMALS DON'T STAND A CHANCE.  ME, I STOP AND 
> PICK UP TURTLES WHO ARE CROSSING THE ROAD AND PUT THEM SAFELY IN THE 
> GRASS ON THE SIDE THEY WERE HEADING TO.  I EVEN STOPPED ON MY ROAD ONE 
> DAY AND URGED A SNAKE ACROSS THE ROAD (HE WAS SO LONG I COULDN'T GO 
> AROUND HIM) WITH A STICK.



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Testing the list on the new host

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wow, what a NICE thing you do for us!
Thank you a million times!!!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Testing the list on the new host

On 8 Aug 2011 at 17:30, kathryn mundell wrote:

>  Just a question for you - which host did you switch to - and why the 
> switch??

We switched from DailyRazor to FusionHost.com because DailyRazor had become
too unstable with so much traffic on each server. FusionHost is a little
more expensive, but we get a lot more for it. Plus, they claim that their
servers are never overloaded. DailyRazor ran really slow all the time
because of their constant overloads. Hopefully, things are back to normal
here. Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for
Edwardsville, IL)

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I'm literally an hour
away from needing to decide.

The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a "feral"
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
source of food?).

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her!

So here's the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange
place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take
her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows
what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not
have as good a motivation as I do.

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

But what would YOU do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

~Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

A little more info.

She's in the trap, where the FF people said she should stay "until morning"
which it is.

She had a problem with her tail, so part of that had to be amputated.  They
said it "went really well and she didn't bleed much" which is good.  They
advised the bandage would just come off in time.  She's a big Himalyan girl
with blue eyes.  A very striking cat.  Oh, and she has a cleft pallet which
I've never seen in a kitty before.  

I want to do the best thing for her.  Again, your help is appreciated.

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Importance: High

 

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I'm literally an hour
away from needing to decide.

The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a "feral"
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
source of food?).

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her!

So here's the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange
place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take
her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows
what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not
have as good a motivation as I do.

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

But what would YOU do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

~Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

Natalie

The folks at Forgotten Felines said to leave the cats in the trap overnight
due to having had anesthetic.  She has been real rummy and quiet.  She let
me put food in with her, but didn't eat it.  Yes, it's time to get her out
of there now that the sun is coming up.  And thanks for your inputs.  I
won't just open the trap and say "good luck."  I'm now trying to locate a
larger kennel-type thing to get her acclimated to my yard.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:18 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

That's sad - why would they want her to stay in the trap?  That's no way to
keep a cat that is friendly. Check with a species specific rescue - maybe
they would take this poor cat.  No, she cannot be just dumped out there
again.  A bathroom, garage, basement would be a better fate than that until
a real home can be found.  But take her out of that trap.was the tail
damaged by a trap?

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Importance: High

 

A little more info.

She's in the trap, where the FF people said she should stay "until morning"
which it is.

She had a problem with her tail, so part of that had to be amputated.  They
said it "went really well and she didn't bleed much" which is good.  They
advised the bandage would just come off in time.  She's a big Himalyan girl
with blue eyes.  A very striking cat.  Oh, and she has a cleft pallet which
I've never seen in a kitty before.  

I want to do the best thing for her.  Again, your help is appreciated.

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Importance: High

 

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I'm literally an hour
away from needing to decide.

The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a "feral"
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
source of food?).

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her!

So here's the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange
place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take
her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows
what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not
have as good a motivation as I do.

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

But what would YOU do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

~Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

Boy, I wish I could do this…but my aunt’s other cat, Princess (“Chirper” as I 
call her for her chirping meow) is in the spare room now.  And the other cats 
go into the garage (their litter boxes are there and there is a cat door 
between house and attached garage).  But good suggestion.

 

It’s amazing, but my four other house cats “know” something is going on.  And I 
just brought Princess over about a week ago.  Yesterday I started moving some 
furniture (unrelated) and my one cat freaked out and hid in the garage for 
hours.  I think change is hard on them…or maybe I’m projecting ;-)

 

Thanks for the great suggestions!

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kathryn mundell
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Hi Bonnie,

I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside.

Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks?  If so, you 
should keep her in there - with litter, food & water & a place to hide (large 
box with hole in it & some towels will do just fine) while you get her 
accustomed to you as her new care giver.  Go in there everyday to be with her - 
even if you don't touch her.  Stay in there for at least a half-hour & read 
something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. 

If you decide to name her - use her name over & over when you go in to feed 
her.  Praise her for being a smart & strong kitty.  etc.

Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window 
cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood "smells" from 
inside.  That way, when you do finally let her out (& put her box outside too) 
she will already be familiar with the surroundings & won't be so apt to bolt or 
run off.

Good luck!  It will be worth the time & the effort!!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

- Original Message -

From: Bonnie Hogue

Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I’m literally an hour 
away from needing to decide.

 

The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” 
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the 
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only 
source of food?).

 

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and 
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That 
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her!

 

So here’s the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place.  
The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take her back to 
my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, 
where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a 
motivation as I do.

 

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

 

But what would YOU do?

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

~Bonnie

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

Beth,  I think this is going to have to be the answer.  Now the question…where 
to get the crate.  Those darn things are expensive.  I’m working on that now.  
I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten 
Felines when finished.  I can’t say enough good about that organization.  They 
spay/neuter about 80 cats a week.  Bless them!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be 
releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going 
to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed 
around once freed.

 

Beth

 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!  
<http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif>  www.Furkids.org 
<http://www.furkids.org/> 

 

 

  _  

From: Bonnie Hogue 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I’m literally an hour 
away from needing to decide.

The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” 
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the 
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only 
source of food?).

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and 
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That 
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her!

So here’s the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place.  
The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take her back to 
my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, 
where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a 
motivation as I do.

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

But what would YOU do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

~Bonnie


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

That’s a good question…

She was “fearful and unfriendly” when she showed up.  Ran, wouldn’t let anyone 
near her.  One time my aunt caught her (after months of feeding) and I wanted 
to get her to the vet.  Trying to put her in the carrying cage, she literally 
shredded my shirt!

However, over time she’s grown increasingly friendly, sticks around my aunt’s 
patio and “even tried to come in the house.”  At my aunt’s property, they have 
tamed two other ferals (and they were ferals).  They are Lucky and Princess, 
who live with me in the house now.

 

My fear was that with her awful looking tail (which is now better) and her 
cleft pallet, and her stand-offish disposition, the humane society would NOT 
see her as adoptable and that would end her life.  I can’t sentence her to 
death.  So now I have to do what I can to help her.

 

Thanks a million for your thoughts!

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Is this a really feral cat?

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:30 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Beth,  I think this is going to have to be the answer.  Now the question…where 
to get the crate.  Those darn things are expensive.  I’m working on that now.  
I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten 
Felines when finished.  I can’t say enough good about that organization.  They 
spay/neuter about 80 cats a week.  Bless them!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be 
releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going 
to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed 
around once freed.

 

Beth

 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!  
<http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif>  www.Furkids.org 
<http://www.furkids.org/> 

 

 

  _  

From: Bonnie Hogue 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I’m literally an hour 
away from needing to decide.

The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” 
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the 
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only 
source of food?).

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and 
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That 
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her!

So here’s the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place.  
The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take her back to 
my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, 
where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a 
motivation as I do.

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

But what would YOU do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

~Bonnie


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...

[Bonnie Hogue]

Folks

I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this "air space" on the list this morning,
but am trying to figure this out with this cat.

 

So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been
suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again?

I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess.
I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit
stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!)..

 

Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and
experiences.  I deeply appreciate you all!

 

~Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

I'll ask Forgotten Felines if they checked for a chip.  Thanks!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters & you have no idea how far
animals wander.  A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from
its home about 10 miles away.  Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays,
bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from
home.  Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter &
maybe taking a look at craig's list-though in this case, it sounds like the
cat's been out there for a couple of years.  

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate
himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's
pet.   some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were
sweet once we got our hands on them.

 

Was she scanned for a chip?  I would definitely do this.

 

She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost.

 

Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've
had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't
always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves & misses it.

 

So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn
out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been
crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before
where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows.  I
say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or
at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves
to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim.

 

Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I
missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people
just moved out, etc.).

 

Good luck and thank you for helping her!!

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do.  Place her in a room in the
house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly,
simply scared.  If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :(
 

  _  

Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 +
From: merrykatme...@email.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma 



Hi Bonnie,

I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside.

Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks?  If so,
you should keep her in there - with litter, food & water & a place to hide
(large box with hole in it & some towels will do just fine) while you get
her accustomed to you as her new care giver.  Go in there everyday to be
with her - even if you don't touch her.  Stay in there for at least a
half-hour & read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to
hearing you. 

If you decide to name her - use her name over & over when you go in to feed
her.  Praise her for being a smart & strong kitty.  etc.

Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window
cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood "smells"
from inside.  That way, when you do finally let her out (& put her box
outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings & won't be
so apt to bolt or run off.

Good luck!  It will be worth the time & the effort!!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

- Original Message -

From: Bonnie Hogue

Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I'm literally an hour
away from needing to decide.

 

The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a "feral"
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
source of food?).

 

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her!

 

So here's the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange
place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.

[Felvtalk] Update on Hemy & THANK YOU

[Bonnie Hogue]

Dear All

 

Update on my "Dilemma" and numerous "questions"..

The little "feral" cat from my aunt's house is now safely in a large cage on
my back deck.  Phew!   Forgotten Felines lent me the cage and advised that
should be her transition place.  She's "mad as heck" and won't look at me
and hisses, but lets me clean the litter box, give her food and change the
water.  But this is only day 2.  She seems to be healing from her tail
amputation, and her hind leg wound/tumor (they aren't sure).  My goal is to
let her stay in my yard - not my favorite thing, but can work (birds:
beware).  I am open to finding her a home if she turns out to be friendly
enough.  I will Never take her to a "shelter" or give her away to anyone I
don't know and can't check up on.  She's had it tough enough already.

I call her Hemy (sorta short for Himalayan?).  She's "half"  lot of things:
she was already spayed; she is at least half Himalayan; she is half feral
and half friendly; she has a little clef palate; she is blue-eyed and
although looked awful with a damaged tail she is a 9 lb. 6 oz. beauty!  If
she ever forgives me for causing her this trauma, we may get to be friends!

I am considering building a larger enclosure for her, and maybe could use it
to give the indoor cats some time outside.

And thank you all so much for your help!  

~Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sherry

I'm so sorry to hear of Rafferty's crossing.  You have loved yet let go of
so many wonderful fur angels.  My deepest condolences to you.  And yet you
seem to know that love always conquers loss in the end.

Peace,

Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:08 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Rafferty Please add to the CLS :(

 


My heart is heavy and hurting tonight,I had to let my beautiful Rafferty go
to the bridge. Raff was my 1st Sids kid that I brought into my heart and
home almost 5 years and 8 months ago. I brought him home just a few seconds
from midnight NYE 2006. He chose me when I was talking to another cat I
heard this pllluuurrp behind me,I turned around and saw this crazy Dr
Seussish looking cat and asked him if he was talking to me...his response "
puurrrpI was hooked he was mine or I was his  :) 

He was also a milkaholic...he would stalk you in the kitchen if you got the
milk out and did not give him someone of my fav pics of him is the one
with droplets of milk on his beautiful black and white faceI love you
Raff and I am so happy I brought you home and cherish EVERY moment I had
with you,no regrets my baby boy no regrets.

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

tly what I would do.  Place her in a room in the
house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly,
simply scared.  If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :(
 

  _  

Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 +
From: merrykatme...@email.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma 



Hi Bonnie,

I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside.

Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks?  If so,
you should keep her in there - with litter, food & water & a place to hide
(large box with hole in it & some towels will do just fine) while you get
her accustomed to you as her new care giver.  Go in there everyday to be
with her - even if you don't touch her.  Stay in there for at least a
half-hour & read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to
hearing you. 

If you decide to name her - use her name over & over when you go in to feed
her.  Praise her for being a smart & strong kitty.  etc.

Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window
cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood "smells"
from inside.  That way, when you do finally let her out (& put her box
outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings & won't be
so apt to bolt or run off.

Good luck!  It will be worth the time & the effort!!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

- Original Message -

From: Bonnie Hogue

Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

 

Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I'm literally an hour
away from needing to decide.

 

The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a "feral"
living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
source of food?).

 

Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her!

 

So here's the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange
place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take
her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows
what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not
have as good a motivation as I do.

 

I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.

 

But what would YOU do?

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

~Bonnie

 

 

___ Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks, Gloria.
I guess "regular" vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out
about how their cat looks.  Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization
(filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear.
She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems
okay.  I am beginning to really like her.  Tonight I sat out in the
beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I
make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard
life but came through alright anyway and now things are better).  I'll feel
better is she won't "shun" me -- right now she turns her back on me or
hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing.  Poor
darling!  Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food.  We'll see how
that goes!
~B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple
of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and
hopefully stay around.  Course this depends on your having the right
weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc.

You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do
the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where
home is. I gather they didn't "eartip" to show that kitty was altered,
unfortunately.

Good luck with your kitty -

Gloria



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Feathers or a brush

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wow, what a terrific idea!  I just put more bedding in with Hemy because she
looks cold.  She hissed, of course.  I left my hand in there a minute,
wondering if I should try to touch her.  She didn't go for me, but I thought
better of it.  This might be an idea to build a bridge!
~B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feathers or a brush


I use feathers or a long handled bath brush to win over a shy or feral cat.
I've had them simply melt at the touch, and soon become very affectionate.

Lorrie

On 08-13, Natalie wrote:

> Have you tried playing with her?  I always collect goose feathers when 
> they molt and tape on or two to the end of a long stick and use it to 
> "stroke" feral cats.  At first, they hiss and swat at the feather 
> (depending on their socialization and tolerance), and eventually, they 
> enjoy it...I stroke them along the side of the face at first, then top 
> of the head and back toward the tail.  I have a very good short 
> article on phases of touching, when you eventually get to that point.
> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Testing the list again

[Bonnie Hogue]

Okay, James.  Thanks!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Testing the list again

Hey all,

Just testing the list again to be sure some new settings are working. They
are measures to ensure that no spam or viruses make it through to the list.
Please just ignore this note. Best wishes to all.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for
Edwardsville, IL)

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Jager Please add to the CLS :(

[Bonnie Hogue]

So sorry to hear you lost Jager, Sherry.  He sounds like a real sweet boy.
You were fortunate to know and love each other.  Sending you both love and
light.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:55 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Jager Please add to the CLS :(

 


We lost our sweet Sids kid Jager last night to intestinal lymphoma. I got to
tell him good bye and that I loved him. And rubbed his beautiful littlr
black ears with the white stripes.

He had the coolest ears and purrsonality.He was all black except each ear
had white stripes,my fiance' couldn't believe it was reall and that someone
bleached them.Well for the 4 1/2 years we had him,his ears ALWAYS stayed the
same :). He always has some kind of issue going on but always overcame it
and was a happy boy. We spoiled him with baby food everyday just because he
was Jager. I will miss this precious little guy. I love you sweet Jager.

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Jager Please add to the CLS :(

[Bonnie Hogue]

I second that emotion.

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jager Please add to the CLS :(

 

Your love for these babies overwhelms and inspires me.  I truly do not know
how you deal with the heartache!  However, I'm sure the rewards of knowing
that these babies knew love is worth it.  Please keep doing what you are
doing.

 

Melinda

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:






We lost our sweet Sids kid Jager last night to intestinal lymphoma. I got to
tell him good bye and that I loved him. And rubbed his beautiful littlr
black ears with the white stripes.

He had the coolest ears and purrsonality.He was all black except each ear
had white stripes,my fiance' couldn't believe it was reall and that someone
bleached them.Well for the 4 1/2 years we had him,his ears ALWAYS stayed the
same :). He always has some kind of issue going on but always overcame it
and was a happy boy. We spoiled him with baby food everyday just because he
was Jager. I will miss this precious little guy. I love you sweet Jager.

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

[Bonnie Hogue]

Today when I fed Hemy (she's in a cage on my back covered deck) she ate
while I was there.  I spoke to her and reached a finger through the cage to
touch her head.  No problem.  Then, when I came back to clean her litter
box, I took a chance and placed my hand on the floor of the cage and
remained still.  She moved closer, then nudged my hand.  I stroked her cheek
and she moved her head around in obvious pleasure.  I petted her a few
moments and she purred.  

This is a "feral" cat who has, after tail amputation and being moved from
her familiar surroundings, been in a cage on my back deck for only Five
Days!

I'd say she is more afraid and cautious than feral, wouldn't you?

I'm keeping her in the cage for now, and will go slowly so she doesn't feel
pressured.  But what a little sweetheart.  It pains me to think of how
horribly humans have been to her, yet she is willing to forgive and perhaps
trust again.  Bless her!

~Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

[Bonnie Hogue]

The vets that treated her at Forgotten Felines said she has a cleft palate.
You can see, when she looks at you, that the little place under her nose
where the two cheeks come together, there is a little gap on her.  But it
must not be serious enough of a problem, because she has a healthy appetite
and weighs in at 9 lb. 6 oz.  A good sized cat!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:47 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

 

That's great news..you don't even need a feather on a stick - see, she's NOT
feral at all, only terrified!

She sounds like she really trusts you and wants to interact! Poor little
Hemy, in great company!

What I don't understand is this: If she has a cleft palate, how can she eat?
Are you sure it's not just some minor deformity that resembles a cleft
palate?

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

 

Today when I fed Hemy (she's in a cage on my back covered deck) she ate
while I was there.  I spoke to her and reached a finger through the cage to
touch her head.  No problem.  Then, when I came back to clean her litter
box, I took a chance and placed my hand on the floor of the cage and
remained still.  She moved closer, then nudged my hand.  I stroked her cheek
and she moved her head around in obvious pleasure.  I petted her a few
moments and she purred.  

This is a "feral" cat who has, after tail amputation and being moved from
her familiar surroundings, been in a cage on my back deck for only Five
Days!

I'd say she is more afraid and cautious than feral, wouldn't you?

I'm keeping her in the cage for now, and will go slowly so she doesn't feel
pressured.  But what a little sweetheart.  It pains me to think of how
horribly humans have been to her, yet she is willing to forgive and perhaps
trust again.  Bless her!

~Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] London Please add to the CLS :(

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sherry, I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad - and the cats are surely
glad - that you have the heart and the stamina to continue to care for them,
even when time is so short together.

Bless you, and bless London on his journey.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:52 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] London Please add to the CLS :(

 


Well the hearache just keeps on coming...London was a wonderful former Sids
kid that had a chance to be in his own home since February.He indured having
to lose a leag and a few other ailments,but he was a charming lovebug that
always looked pissed.But was ALWAYS very happy,he just had the look. :) I
almost adopted him myself back in January after losing my Xander.When the
whole Wednesday night crew got wind of me possibly adopting him,there were
threats of them all coming to visit EVERY wednesday. I was ok with that. But
I just wasn't ready for another yet and wonderful Cheryl took him home
shortly after.He was a great cat with a GREAT purrsonality...I love you
London and I will miss you sweetie  :(

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

[Bonnie Hogue]

I continue to be amazed by her progress.  I can't stand the idea of her in that 
cage for two or three more weeks.  I'm torn between buying a bigger cage (hard 
to afford right now) and releasing her sooner, say in 3 or 4 more days.  I 
think she might stick around.  My biggest fear is that she might try to return 
to my aunt's house, about 5 blocks away.
Im torn.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!

I have always said that animals are more honest with us than we are with them.
I am just happy that Hemi found an honest, loving person.  I have had 3 ferals. 
 It took me an average of 6 - 8 months to gain complete trust, but oce tey 
passed that threshold, there was no turning back.  They became the biggest 
lovers, greatest lap sitters and demanded to be on the bed at night.  Shows 
what a little love can do.  


 Beth  wrote: 
> You are right. She is not feral, she just hasn't been loved. I have 
> one inside my house right now who is over 10 years old, never been 
> touched by a human, outside all his life, & felt behind when his 
> caretaker  was put in a nursing home. I could not touch him for 
> awhile. Now I can pick him up & he just purrs!~

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 


____
From: Bonnie Hogue 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:24 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] First Petting of Hemy!


Today when I fed Hemy (she’s in a cage on my back covered deck) she ate while I 
was there.  I spoke to her and reached a finger through the cage to touch her 
head.  No problem.  Then, when I came back to clean her litter box, I took a 
chance and placed my hand on the floor of the cage and remained still.  She 
moved closer, then nudged my hand.  I stroked her cheek and she moved her head 
around in obvious pleasure.  I petted her a few moments and she purred. This is 
a “feral” cat who has, after tail amputation and being moved from her familiar 
surroundings, been in a cage on my back deck for only Five Days!
I’d say she is more afraid and cautious than feral, wouldn’t you?
I’m keeping her in the cage for now, and will go slowly so she doesn’t feel 
pressured.  But what a little sweetheart.  It pains me to think of how horribly 
humans have been to her, yet she is willing to forgive and perhaps trust again. 
 Bless her!
~Bonnie
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Mooshu Please add to the CLS :(

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sherry
I'm so sorry to hear you lost Mooshu.  I know grumpy cats -- and god bless
them!  They usually have good reason.  I'm sure your Mooshu knew you cared,
and he purred his gratitude.
May you both find peace.
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Sherry DeHaan
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mooshu Please add to the CLS :(

You didn't have to tell him, he knew by your actions and the sound of your
voice.  Don't ever second guess yourself and wonder what if or did I.  
 Sherry DeHaan  wrote: 
> We lost another wonderful Black boy today. My Mooshy man was a big grumpy
old boy,but I sure loved him for almost 6 years. I will ALWAYS remember the
first time I got him to purr for me...I cried like a baby.He came into Sids
just after I started volunteering and I was determined to make that grumbly
boy purr. :) I know he knew he was loved,I told him often,but sadly I cant
recall telling him on Monday when I was there...I hope I did.
> I will miss you Mooshy Man
> Sherry
> 
> 
> "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than 
> our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
> Unable to accept its awful gaps.
> We still would have it no other way"


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Blind, declawed cat

[Bonnie Hogue]

Natalie
You are a saint for helping this poor animal.  Best of luck to him and you.
I will pray the right home is found for him.
~B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Blind, declawed cat

OMG, that poor baby.  How could anyone be that cruel.


On 08-24, Natalie wrote:
> 
>We  just  got  a  9-yr  old blind and declawed cat, and healthy
>- poor thing was stumbling around in a neighborhood, and only
>after about 2 weeks it was determined that he cannot see. 
>Nobody was looking for him; obviously abandoned.  Now, I'm
>trying to find him a small and quiet home...he has to be
>approached quietly and forewarned that you're there.


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes?
What are they called & where do you get them!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes 
around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES.  

It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place.  I had been 
using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river 
and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet 
for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also.  Vet gave her a 
long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they 
called and said she was loaded with seed ticks.  I check them every time they 
come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament.  I 
have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks.  Anyone else 
haeing a big problem with them?

 Cindy McHugh  wrote: 
> I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for 
> dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember 
> watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal 
> Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended 
> for dogs on it. So
> *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet 
> first about adjusting the dosage.
> 
> Cindy & Angel Jackpot
> 
> From: molvey...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just 
> discussing it with my feline asthma group.
> 
> Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems.  I have a 
> cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard.  That is making things 
> ten times worse.  I've been using Revolution for several years now with no 
> problems.
> Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog 
> size and split it up between the cats.  I don't know if the Revolution 
> isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for 
> fleas.  If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially 
> bad year.
> Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes 
> switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a 
> tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is 
> processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them 
> for so long.  Who knows.  If you've been using Advantage maybe you 
> should try Revolution or Frontline Plus.  I believe Frontline Plus 
> kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that 
> might be a good one too.  I hate using all these chemicals on my cats 
> but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few 
> ferals that live here that I can't touch.
> 
> I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to 
> do something.  I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone 
> else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, 
> don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off 
> until it dries"
> and that really scares me.  If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the 
> yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad.  
> But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I 
> just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth.  I've been using Flea 
> Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product.  Well, I just 
> sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet 
> because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll 
> take a while to make a difference.  But if anyone wants to try them I 
> got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95.  I think you can order them 
> online also.  I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks.
> 
> The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store.  It's the food 
> grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are 
> thinking of trying it check your feed stores first.  I got a 50 lb bag 
> for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever.  I can't believe how 
> little it takes.  I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had.  
> I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and 
> putting a little in my ca

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

[Bonnie Hogue]

Natalie

Good luck with the hurricane!  I hope there is no damage and no frightened
cats!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

 

I'll send the site where we order these little nematodes - but if a nursery
has them, great!  We used to get them from Dr. Goodpet.not sure, where we
get them now.  We are busily preparing for the hurricane.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

 

They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some
nurseries.  I got some at Pike this year.  You can also order them from
online.  I ordered some from Amazon.  I haven't put those out yet so I can
testify to them.  I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through
the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the
mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were
in the shipping process.  I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a
little leary.  But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring
worked great.  Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those
little black ants coming in either.  I think I'll be putting them down every
year from now on.

I'm not sure if they work on ticks.  Seems like they would if ticks spend a
lot of time on the ground.

"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark
Twain

> From: ho...@sonic.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
> 
> Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes?
> What are they called & where do you get them!
> ~Bonnie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
> 
> No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes
around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
> 
> I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. 
> 
> It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had
been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over
a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took
Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also.
Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal
self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them
every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of
tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular
ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them?
> 
>  Cindy McHugh  wrote: 
> > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for 
> > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember 
> > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal 
> > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended 
> > for dogs on it. So
> > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet 
> > first about adjusting the dosage.
> > 
> > Cindy & Angel Jackpot
> > 
> > From: molvey...@hotmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
> > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just 
> > discussing it with my feline asthma group.
> > 
> > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a 
> > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things 
> > ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with
no problems.
> > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog 
> > size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution 
> > isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for 
> > fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's j

Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

[Bonnie Hogue]

This inspired me to tell this story:
I got my heart-cat, Stormy, 15 1/2 years ago.  She was born to a feral
mother.  The woman feeding the mother cat noticed the cat getting fatter and
fatter, then one day suddenly skinny again.  She thought, "Uh oh, bet she
had kittens."  So she followed the cat and sure enough, a passel of kittens
had been born, unfortunately in a bucket and (you guessed it I'm sure) it
had rained heavily.  The only one to survive that storm was the grey tabby,
Stormy.  A couple of months later the woman had to move and couldn't take
her kitten, so I got her.  That's why she's named Stormy.  Should've been
named "Lucky" or  " Miracle!"
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

That's my huge worry, too!
Just think, the two kittens that drowned 2 weeks ago in a flooded backyard
in Brooklyn, NY...I have the third that was scooped out of the water at
night, and got their mom and dad, too.  The baby is only5 wks old.  This was
just the rain - never mind what's coming this weekend!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hurricane

On 08-26, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
>Natalie
> 
>Good  luck  with  the  hurricane!   I  hope  there is no damage and no
>frightened cats!
> 
>~Bonnie

I worry more about the millions of homeless cats in NYC DC and NJ than I do
about the people.  These animals have no place to go and people do. I worry
just as much about the pets left behind when their humans evacuate. My
first thoughts are always for the animals, but thankfully my cats are safe.
We are in the eastern mountains right on the border of western Maryland at
3,000 elevation.

Lorrie


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks for the belly laugh.now I have to go change!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle

 

A Trip to Costco 

Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for
my loyal pet, Jake, the Wonder Dog and was in the check-out line when a
woman behind me asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had, an elephant?
So since I'm retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I
didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again. I added that I
probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that
I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes
coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms. 

I told her that it was essentially a Perfect Diet and that the way that it
works is, to load your pants pockets with Purina Nuggets and simply eat one
or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it
works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that
practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.) Horrified,
she asked if I ended up in intensive care, because the dog food poisoned me.
I told her no, I stepped off a curb to sniff a poodle's ass and a car hit
me. 

I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was
laughing so hard. 

Costco won't let me shop there anymore. 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

[Bonnie Hogue]

Tell them: yeah, I’ll declaw my cat if you pull out all your teeth.

That ought to shut them up!

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

 

Problem is declawing is so harmful to adult cats- painful, hard to adjust to, 
it can ruin them. Not right for kittens, but for adults it's just mean, 
torturous.  Just not a good thing to do. There are places that allow cats w 
claws but folks may not think bout that till the last thing. But then grandma 
or whoever dies or goes to an Alzheimer's facility and then who wants a cat 
ruined by declaw. 

 

Gloria

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Kelley Saveika  wrote:

It wouldn't be you going without the cat, it would be the cat going without 
you.  I have seen cats given up by their owners grieve and mourn themselves TO 
DEATH.  I've seen cats given away by their owners be fine.  I've seen cats who 
have been declawed suffer.  I have seen cats who have been declawed do 
absolutely fine.  It isn't all as easy as it looks sometimes.

I have not had a cat declawed but I did have one who had to have a mastectomy 
and who I am sure would have been in horrible pain had it not been for the oral 
pain meds the vet prescribed.  I would hope any vet doing declaw surgery would 
provide pain meds.

At any rate I'm 44 so hopefully it would be a while before I  went into a 
nursing home.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Natalie  wrote:

I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously– it is the most 
devastating thing for a cat.  Knowing what I do, I would be more heartbroken 
doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat, trust me.  I wonder how a 
cat would feel if 

he/she knew that it had a choice between missing the owner or having their paws 
mutilated?  According to Dr. Nicholas Doddman, who wrote The Cat that Cried for 
Help, after declawing surgery, cats feel such extreme pain that they either 
climb the walls of the cage or sit completely morose and cowering in the 
corner, something that their owners will never see.  I have a copy of an 
article written for NY Times Magazine a few years ago, where a woman writes 
about declawing her older cat because her mother’s oriental rug was being 
scratched up.  It is one of my hand-out’s to adopters – the story is 
heartbreaking, and very typical.  After the hurricane is over, I will scan it 
and post it.  It is probably the best I’ve read, without going into the gory 
details of declawing.

Natalie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

 

Sorry!  This is a 62 email thread in gmail.  I don't know how your email 
program organizes stuff.  Anyway I did not look at the date.

I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners literally to death 
after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather declaw them.  
Hopefully I will not need to make that choice.  

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Natalie  wrote:

OMG – you are responding to a post from March……I thought that I was going crazy 
and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, NOW!

 

There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are declawed…I 
guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats peeing everywhere instead 
of possibly scratching something, and it would most likely be the tenants’ own 
furniture!

 

I would rather give my cat away than declaw it – especially when it’s an older 
cat – it’s so much harder on them (not that it isn’t on young(er) cats).

 

There needs to be a lot of education on declawing and what the 
psychological/emotional and physical effects can take be.  We have had a few 
abandoned declawed cats, and I have witnessed almost all of them…..but all the 
damage had already been done, and what was I to do – throw them out or kill 
them?  I found some homes that understood the ramifications and dealt with the 
problems as well as they could.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:45 PM


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

 

Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate enough to 
find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is likely to require 
declawing.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie  wrote:

That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat with
claws.  Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or
scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old.  And as I said, bites are a
natural defense for declawed cats!

 


_

[Felvtalk] Hemy has a home

[Bonnie Hogue]

Just an update on that little "feral" cat I took from my dear aunt's house..

After going to Forgotten Felines for spay (already spayed), partial tail
amputation and general health check, "Hemy" lived in a pen on my deck for
nearly a month. I would get my upper body in the pen and we would have a
'love fest' of petting, purring, head-butting and cuddling.  Clearly: not a
feral cat.  So I left the pen door open yesterday.  She sniffed all around
the yard, circled several times, returned to the pen to eat and sleep in her
favorite bed.  I called FF about finding her a home, but I think this is her
home, and I'm her person.  I love this little cat.  I suspect she has some
health issues, but I'm delighted to give her a home and in return have her
friendship.

By the way, my dear aunt passed away on Aug. 24.  I visited her the evening
before and she said then the same thing she said every time I saw her:  "I'm
so GLAD you have the cats."  Then she'd ask about them and I'd tell her how
each one was doing and how wonderful they are.  It was obviously important
to her that her animals were being cared for, and I think the fact that it
was me ('in the family' and a known cat lover) helped.   I'm happy that my
taking her cats made her happy and gave her a little peace in her time of
transition.

~Bonnie 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week

[Bonnie Hogue]

Kelley

So sorry for the loss of Black Tom.  Each cat is special and their life
counts.  It is so difficult to tell when to intervene sometimes.  I hope his
helper comes to see it is not her fault, and to appreciate the times they
spent together.

Peace.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:26 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week

 

His feeder is devastated.  I am sure she blames herself for not taking him
to the vet sooner.  Thanks very much to those of you who offered him
sanctuary.  I can always depend on this list for help.

Kelley

-- 

Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org  

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

 

Please help Trooper!

 

http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper



"And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they
should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."

 

- Nathan Winograd

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Hemy has a home

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thank you ALL for your kind words and support through the process of taking 
care of Hemy.  I don’t think I could have done it without you!

You are all truly ANGELS!

Peace,

Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 7:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hemy has a home

 

You're wonderful...

Sent from my iPad


On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:31 PM, "Bonnie Hogue"  wrote:

Just an update on that little “feral” cat I took from my dear aunt’s house….

After going to Forgotten Felines for spay (already spayed), partial tail 
amputation and general health check, “Hemy” lived in a pen on my deck for 
nearly a month. I would get my upper body in the pen and we would have a ‘love 
fest’ of petting, purring, head-butting and cuddling.  Clearly: not a feral 
cat.  So I left the pen door open yesterday.  She sniffed all around the yard, 
circled several times, returned to the pen to eat and sleep in her favorite 
bed.  I called FF about finding her a home, but I think this is her home, and 
I’m her person.  I love this little cat.  I suspect she has some health issues, 
but I’m delighted to give her a home and in return have her friendship.

By the way, my dear aunt passed away on Aug. 24.  I visited her the evening 
before and she said then the same thing she said every time I saw her:  “I’m so 
GLAD you have the cats.”  Then she’d ask about them and I’d tell her how each 
one was doing and how wonderful they are.  It was obviously important to her 
that her animals were being cared for, and I think the fact that it was me (‘in 
the family’ and a known cat lover) helped.   I’m happy that my taking her cats 
made her happy and gave her a little peace in her time of transition.

~Bonnie 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

[Bonnie Hogue]

If  money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society or another
non-profit animal organization.  You could leave your property to the
organization with the stipulation that your animals be cared for (and you
could define what that means).  If you are wealthy enough, you may even
provide a salary to a care taker.  When the animals are gone from the world,
then the property conveys to the organization.  Thoughts being (a) they are
organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical enough not to
'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as an organization it takes
the worry out of finding someone because they are set up, trained and should
be very willing to do this.  I'd talk with them (whomever you think is
appropriate).
For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having
enough money to provide for them and the cats.   If you have property (and
other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family.  I
don't know about you, but I always feel "nobody loves them like I
do"...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden
relieved.
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money for
their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is the
problem.  Not the money.  
 .

 > On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:

> I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever 
> may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their 
> care until they all leave this world.

> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

[Bonnie Hogue]

This is a huge problem: " being a rural area no one neuters their anmals,
just let them breed and then give the babies away"...
If I could provide funds for animal welfare the majority would be to
free/low cost spay and neuter!   Preventing suffering is easier than
eliminating suffering.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

JUST HOW OLD IN THIS NATALIE?  i AM 70 AND HOPE TO BE HERE A FEW MORE YEARS.
Maybe we could get together and help each other out.  fATHER MADE IT TO 92.
SPEAKING OF HAVING A RESCUE/NO KLL SHELTER,  DO YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED?  i
WAS THINKING of starting one and applying to cat food companies for $ off or
a dnation of food, maybe.  Then I could handle more than 7.  Right now,
between litter and food, my budget is stretched to it's limit.  All of you
who  rescue, have you tried this and did it work?  We have so many unwanted
cats around here thatI was thinking if I could start a cat only shelter that
would give PALS a break and they could concentrate on the dogs.  The have
been turning away cats and dogs because thy simply do not have the room and
they just got a larger facility so they could handle more.  So many in our
area have lost jobs, homes and cannot keep their pets.  Also, being a rural
area no one neuters their anmals, just let them breed and then give the
babies away to anyone who takes them.  Unfortunate because many who take
them do not take good care of them, just let them run loose and if they get
hit by a car o!
 r taken by a coyote, get another one.  Even PALS isn't too picky about who
takes them.  Thy are overrun so let them go without too many questions.  I
would probably go the other way and put them thru a background check before
I even interviewed them.  Then, I would end up keeping them because I could
not find anyone good enough for my babies.
 Natalie  wrote: 
> This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the 
> bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..
> 
> Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere 
> yet, OK?
> 
>  
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
> Olvey
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
> 
>  
> 
> I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people 
> so mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So 
> here's my plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle 
> keeping all of them by himself, and even if he did once he remarried I 
> doubt a new wife would want to take care of that many animals, so for 
> the rest my rescue would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I 
> have a couple of friends that would each take a few, then I know this 
> nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the rest.  Her name
is Natalie.
> 
> Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of 
> maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only 
> appropriate she goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!
> 
> Her and her brother are named Mai & Thai, like the drink except that 
> there's an "h" in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her name 
> is pronounced Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to 
> clarify, the reason there's an "h" in Thai which isn't there in the 
> correct spelling of the drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy 
> Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost pure) and the new 
> name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So 
> after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai & Thai for those 
> two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm.  
> And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai.
> 
> "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
> are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it 
> inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
> it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
> looking further." - Mark Twain
> 
> > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500
> > From: dlg...@windstream.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
> > 
> > That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but 
> > accidents do
> happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, 
> including the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir
prsonality, food, etc.
> >  MaiMaiPG  wrote: 
> > > Amen
> > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
> > > 
> > > > We don't have to be older to "check out", we could be hit by a 
> > > > bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a 

Re: [Felvtalk] BreAnne left today

[Bonnie Hogue]

Czadna

I'm sorry for the loss of your beloved BreAnne.  Now she suffers no more.

I love Rumi and what you've written makes a sense in this circumstance.  You
took her there, then - when it was 'time'--  brought her home.

Bless you both.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:56 PM
To: feline leukemia list
Subject: [Felvtalk] BreAnne left today

 


hopefully to meet ToriRose and Isaac at the Bridge.
 
The local vet's euthanisia was really ugly. It happens. ( I thought it would
be easier for her rather than riding for 45 minutes).  The local vet was no
stranger to her.
 
She had had fluids the previous 3 Saturdays.  Our usual vet was not able to
give her as much fluids Saturday because of her breathing.  I came home and
let her out and she disappeared into the woods, coming back when it got
dark.  I put her on the patio to rest Sunday morning.  She lay there awhile
and left and again returned in the darkness as I trusted she would though I
began calling her in midafternoon.
 
Mama (no relation to her)  washed her last night.  Physically, it was time.
You had counseled me that I would know.
 
Some of you know a rough translation of a Rumi poem "Whoever brought me to
the tavern will have to take me home".
 
BreAnne was an alpha female - - just over 2 years old.  Her playmate
ToriRose left in February 2010.  Isaac left in February 2011.  She got
really thin last fall and then rebounded.  You helped me with her this
spring when she quit eating and then decided to eat only Fancy Feast beef.
She rebounded in July.  will leave it there.
 
Remaining positives are Mama and Luscious and Shallie Jean and Hope.

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

[Bonnie Hogue]

Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it
treat animals.  Such disgusting cruelty.  If there is reincarnation, guess
who's going to be the prey in their next life?  Maybe that way, they will
learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change.

~b.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

 

So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We live on a pond, and they spend a lot
of time here.  We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties,
bothering them.  We actually recognize them every year because of certain
markings, etc.  When one  loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not sure if
they ever find another life-mate or not.

I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest.  It was sick.
Families having picnics, while their "menfolk" shot at pigeons that had been
confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were
released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly
fly up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots at
them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields,
dying a slow death.  Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until
teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks,
either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a
decapitated pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them
humanely.

It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty
people amusing themselves.

Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

 

doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is
people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from
THAT!

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey 
wrote:

Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
 
We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
Go figure!
 
When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
in a fair shooting gallery... groups of "hunters" parked on their backsides
sitting on coolers of doveswith umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single "friend" would
admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?
 
Georgetta


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org




-- 

Marcia Baronda

Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc.

1550 S 2700 Rd.

Herington, Kansas 67449

Phone: 785-466-2501

Cell:785-230-6499

 

" I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my
conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or
wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit
humans. They have the same right to exist as we do."  Don Hamilton DVM

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

[Bonnie Hogue]

You shoulda hid behind a car, strewn a few dollar bills on the ground, then
when he came over to pick them up -- BAM! -- baseball bat to the butt!
Well...bet you 'wish' you coulda!
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

It just breaks my heart when we lived in Austin, Tx that there were so many
deer starving, they would shoot them rather than feed them. In fact, I
worked for a CPA that would litterally climb a tree and have a pile of corn
on the ground, wait for the deer to start eating and shoot it. It made me
sick and I certainly gave him my opinion on it. Deer are such beautiful
animals.
- Original Message -
From: "Lorrie" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


> On 09-12, dot winkler wrote:
>>Hysterical!   L.O.L.  I love it.  The thing is, yes, some of them hunt
>>and actually use the meat - smoke it, make sausage with it (yuck!). At
>>least  they  are  eating the deer.  But the thing is, the animal is so
>>beautiful  a creature to behold and so delicate.   How can anyone have
>>the  heart  to  kill  them?  They are graceful and grace our woods and
>>lands.   To  see one in your yard is a special and breathtaking sight.
>>I don't see how anyone could do it.
>>  
>> _
>
> I could never kill a deer.  Many deer come to our yard, and they are 
> so beautiful.  Last winter some bastard shot the leg off one of them.
> It was right at the knee and it was just dangling for weeks. Finally 
> it dropped off and thankfully it never got infected.  She still comes 
> to our house, and still keeps up with her group.  She's an amazing, 
> brave little doe and we call her "Tripod".
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> Tripod and she
> in
> our yard
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Geese & Pigeons

[Bonnie Hogue]

This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out and put on my 'fridge.
The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's exam table.  The doctor stands
nearby looking at the chart and saying, " The bad news is you have advanced
case humans...The good news is they've about run their course and you should
be on the mend soon."
Ha!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese & Pigeons

aS A RACE, AREN'T WE A BUNCH.  mAYBE THE ANIMALS SHOULD RISE UP AND DO THE
SAME TO US. I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY GOD I SO PATIENT WITH US. IF
I WERE HE, I WOULD HAVE PUT AN END TO ALL A LONG TIME AGO. 
But then, I guess that is why I am not God, my patience runs thin very fast.


 Natalie  wrote: 
> I love Canada geese, they care for their babies together, with other 
> family members babysitting, etc. - not like ducks...poor mom duck has 
> up to 12 babies, and no mate in sight.  Almost all usually are lost.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:19 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Geese & Pigeons
> 
> When we lived in the country on a pond we had Canada geese, and we 
> learned to tell them apart by the markings on their masks. They are 
> extremely intelligent, as well as being elegant beautiful birds. We really
loved them.
> I am sickened now by the knowledge that they are being "rounded up" as 
> the DNR calls its,  because of people building houses and golf courses 
> on lakes that have always been the habitat of the geese.  The rounds 
> ups are done when the geese are molting and therefore flightless, and 
> I was nearly arrested from interfering in one of those horrible round 
> ups, where they are herded the terrified geese into pens and then gassed
them.
> 
> I've never witnessed a pigeon shoot, but I've read about them and they 
> are barbaric and cruel.  I'm glad the Hegins shoot has ended, but I'm 
> sure there are more elsewhere.  How people can enjoy such a "sport" 
> says a lot about the makeup of humans. We are the most cruel beings on the
face of the earth!
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> >On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We
> >live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here.  We feed
> >them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them. 
> >We actually recognize them every year because of certain
> >markings, etc.  When one loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not
> >sure if they ever find another life-mate or not.
> > 
> >I  used  to  go  to  the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest. 
> >It was sick.  Families having picnics, while their "menfolk"
> >shot at pigeons that had been confined without food and water in
> >dark little traps for days- they were released, totally
> >disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight.  They could hardly fly
> >up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots
> >at them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on
> >roofs and fields, dying a slow death.  Others fell right down,
> >flopping on the ground until teen boys nonchalantly sauntered
> >over to them, swung them by their necks, either broke their
> >necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a decapitated
> >pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
> >and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize
> >them humanely.
> > 
> >It  was  like  in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and
blood
> >lusty people amusing themselves.
> > 
> >Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!
> > 
> > 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

[Bonnie Hogue]

Good for you!
~B.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:17 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Hunters

When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and walk
back into the woods.  We could hear them, but never find them, so because
they were parked where I could get to their cars I began letting the air out
of their tires!


Lorrie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars

[Bonnie Hogue]

We have them too.   I'm in Santa Rosa, Ca.  about an hour north of San
Francisco.  It's a BIG metropolitan area, but because of "development" and
the creeks in the area that allow cover, cougars have been spotted in
people's back yards.  I worry, but not for the people -- for the cougars.  I
hate the thought of someone shooting such a magnificent animal that is
clearly in stress or it wouldn't be around a stinking town.  I imagine they
are eating possums, as they are everywhere, thanks to some nitwit who
imported them from Texas or someplace for "sport hunting."  People...
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:47 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cougars

That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and
beautiful.  We don't have any around here, as they were all killed years
ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where do you live
that you still have cougars around?

> On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> My deer come up on the deck to say howdy to me and my cougar visits 
> ever so often.  If we left things up to nature, there would be no 
> overpopulation of deer, etc.  The cougar, wolve, coyote and bear would 
> keep things in balance.  But of course, we all kow these animals are 
> dangerous and will kill us.  They will if we are stupid and aggrevate 
> them.  Run and that will trigger the preditor instinct.  They have to 
> be hungry before they will deal wth humans.
> My cougar looks at me nd then saunters on across the road.  I even 
> talk to him, he turns and looks at me, sometimes snarls like I am a 
> stupid old woman. We even have a bear across the river in an old barn 
> and he/she has never bothered anyone arund this area.  In fact, you 
> have to be lucky or really trying to catch sight of them.
> 
> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

[Bonnie Hogue]

Edna

So sorry for your loss.  Miller sounds like a very dear friend indeed.

May your pain be soothed by your sweet memories.

Blessings to you all.

Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:21 AM
To: feline leukemia list
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

 

Edna,
 
may a comforting presence hold you close.
 
Thank you for being a with-you-to-the-end ally and respectful, responsive
companion to Miller, a best beloved.
 
healing and laughter




 

 
c

  _  


Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:39:41 -0700
From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miller




I'm so very sorry Edna..Godspeed beautiful Miller

Marta

  http://homelessnomore.webs.com/



--- On Thu, 9/22/11, Edna Taylor  wrote:


From: Edna Taylor 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 9:12 PM

Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he
didn't want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in,
vet gave him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and
when I got home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the
entertainment center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when
I picked him up, he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time
to let him go.  Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she
helped him cross over.  We may still have a house full of furbabies but his
leaving has left a hole in our hearts.
 
I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
I shall hear music but none as sweet 
as the song with which you loved me, 
I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

1999-2011
 
Edna, Frank and the Nuisance


-Inline Attachment Follows-

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___ Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnet Please add to the CLS :*(

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sherry

Condolences on the loss of Bonnet.  But how wonderful you were there for her
and helped make her life better, as evidenced by her change in
expressiveness.

May the love you shared comfort you.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 9:19 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bonnet Please add to the CLS :*(

 


My heart is broken,found out today that Dr. Jen had to let our beautiful Bon
Bon go yesterday. Bonnet was my favorite girl at Sids,she came in a shy girl
and blossomed into a loving,playful and sweet beautiful tortie. I will miss
this wonderful little lady,I am happy I got to spend some time with her on
Monday while I was there. Never enough time. :(

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Sids kid??

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wow, I was all set to go to the wine-do tonight until I realized it's in
Michigan!  

Nice web site, and nice looking cats!

Best of luck to you.

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 6:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sids kid??

 

Here's their link:  http://crashslanding.org/index.html

 

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
  www.Furkids.org
 

 

 

  _  

From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sids kid??

For months I've been wondering what a Sids kid was. I knew they were
FelV cats, but did not know what SIDS meant.  I'm glad someone else
asked first..  I thought I should know :-)  Lorrie

On 11-03, Marcia Baronda wrote:
>That's what I was wondering(-:
> 
>On  Nov  3,  2011, at 7:40 PM, kat parker <[1]korruptaki...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
> 
>Oh, I am so sorry to hear this!  You go through this so much.  Please,
>may  I ask you, what is a "Sids kid", besides the obvious of being one
>of your FeLV+ kitties?

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Sids Kids?

[Bonnie Hogue]

Oh, Sherry, I'm way out here in Northern California (in the wine country, no
less!) . but that really looked like a smashing good time.  Glad you raised
funds to help the furry ones!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:47 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sids Kids?

 


Thank you Beth for posting the crashs linkand Bonnie it would have been
GREAT for you to come to the Wine/Art Gala !!! Where are you located? We had
an awesome night and raised almost $15,000 !!! Will be even better next year
!!! Thanks to all of you for your kind words,they REALLY do help me through
the hard times we go through with our beloved Sids kids:) Love to you
all !!!

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

[Bonnie Hogue]

Susan

I'm so sorry for your loss of your precious cat, Autumn.  I bet she was
orange.  I once had an orange Autumn, too.

Sound like you and she were very bonded and shared a lot.  I'm sure you made
her life better.and she returned the favor.

May your good memories help heal the pain of loss, and may you have a
lifetime of wonderful cats!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Ang
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:34 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

 

My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl. 
~Susan Ang

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sweet story, Lee.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

 

My two FeLv/FIV+ cats Taco and Smooch have passed over this year.  I was
heartbroken.  But then I realized how wonderful it was that people like us
give these deserving little cats all the life they can sustain and don't
turn our backs on them because they were unlucky enough to have these
afflictions.  Taco and Smooch were both healthy, fat and happy until a month
before they passed.  Smooch held on a few weeks after Taco but I think Taco
called to him that it was better on the other side and Smooch left.  

 

Lee

 

  _  

From: Marcia 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

This is so true, I know that Fletch is here with me. I miss him so.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:57 AM, MaiMaiPG  wrote:

> Autumn left this world as a precious, loved and cared for being.  That is
so wonderful.  She remains with you even though you can't see  her and will
visit you when the time is right.  It may be as you sleep, when you are the
most open to her, but don't dismiss it as a dream and enjoy every second of
it.
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Susan Ang wrote:
> 
>> My cat Autumn died last night due to complications arising from Feline
Leukemia. She was four years old. In her short life she was a joy to us, a
beautiful, highly intelligent little cat. I can't believe she's gone. I had
almost fooled myself into believing that I might get to keep her for a very
long time, but the disease won. We are grief-stricken.  I joined this list
in 2007 after searching everywhere for information and support for FELV
owners. I'm so glad it exists. I've drawn a lot of support and knowledge
over the years - even when just lurking. I just wanted to add Autumn to the
list. She was precious, loved to cuddle, watch Baby Einstein and steal
pizza. My home will be so empty without her. I love you, baby girl.
>> ~Susan Ang
>> ___
>> Felvtalk mailing list
>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Lila Rose and Roxxi Please add to the CLS :(

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sherry

Condolensces on the losses of your two friends.  I'm so sorry.  But how
blessed to have the connection and love you did share.

May these two lady cats have a peaceful transistion, and may the memory of
them help heal your heart.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:16 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lila Rose and Roxxi Please add to the CLS :(

 


We lost these two Sids girls in the last several days.

Lila Rose was a shy scared girl that was only with us for just a few months.

Roxxi was a beautiful Torti girl who was very quiet and sweet.I had the
honor of loving her for just over 3 years. I was broken hearted over these
two lovely ladies.   :(

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] please add tigger to list

[Bonnie Hogue]

Oh John, I'm so sorry your little buddy died.  Bless you for helping and
loving him.  I hope your sweet memories of the little guy help heal the pain
of his loss.

~B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of john pollack
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:01 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] please add tigger to list

 

I lost my little Tigger today, 1 month short of his 5th birthday. FeLV+
since birth. God speed, lil Tigger

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

[Bonnie Hogue]

Holding a good thought for you and Horus, Marta.

Hang in there!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

 


Horus got his belly drained today, he had almos 1 liter of fluid, poor baby!
And it wasn't classic; it was transparent green fluid, sent a PCR, cytology
and fluid analysis..he's being subq'ed regularly and eats lots, weighed a
pound & 1/2  more but don't know if that was before they drained the fluid.
But even so his bones stick out so he's losing protein somehow. It is
serious, whatever it is, not sure is curable..tests will be back in 3-5 days

Marta

  http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

[Bonnie Hogue]

Glad to hear it's going well for you and Horus.  My cat Lucky had surgery
last week.  He's also a sweet muffin, even with that ridiculous "radar dish"
on his head.

Good luck!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

 




Thank-you everybody for sweet words and positive thoughts..Horus is doing
well considering, I think he's filling up again, getting a paunch again. The
tests results might be back tomorrow but most likely sometime next week.
Does somebody have experience seeing almost clear fluid? The tech said
didn't look like FIP to her..but don't know if FIP is like other diseases
that doesn't have a defined characteristic(in this case different looking
fluid vs thick yellow liquid)

He's on amoxi for a bacterial infection, sub-q's everyother day or as
needed.

 He's too sweet. he always was, except hours after rescue was the hissiest
of the litter but as months passed Horus turned into a  very laidback, purr
machine kitty, 

Marta



 

 <http://homelessnomore.webs.com/> http://homelessnomore.webs.com/



--- On Fri, 12/2/11, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:


From: dlg...@windstream.net 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 3:14 AM

Here are more prayers for Hortus and you.  Poor baby, he must be miserable
and you must be also having to see him suffering.  I do hope he gets better
soon.
.
 Bonnie Hogue http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ho...@sonic.net> > wrote: 
> Holding a good thought for you and Horus, Marta.
> 
> Hang in there!
> 
> ~Bonnie
> 
>  
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
<http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk-bounces@felineleukem
ia.org> 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
<http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk-bounces@felineleukem
ia.org> ] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:50 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
<http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Horus got his belly drained today, he had almos 1 liter of fluid, poor
baby!
> And it wasn't classic; it was transparent green fluid, sent a PCR,
cytology
> and fluid analysis..he's being subq'ed regularly and eats lots, weighed a
> pound & 1/2  more but don't know if that was before they drained the
fluid.
> But even so his bones stick out so he's losing protein somehow. It is
> serious, whatever it is, not sure is curable..tests will be back in 3-5
days
> 
> Marta
> 
>  <http://homelessnomore.webs.com/> http://homelessnomore.webs.com/
> 
>  
> 


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
<http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Homey

[Bonnie Hogue]

Got your hands full!  I sure wish you luck with it.  I'm typing slow as cat
is sitting in front of the computer (and purring!)...
Ever hear of "Petastic"?  Great for dealing with stains/smells.  They have a
cat formula.  Works great.
Good luck to you and Homey!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Homey

My vt just called with the culture report and they found no bacteria.  Did a
culture for all of them.  Sort of good news/bad news.  He has an artcle and
when finished reading it, will copy for me.  She may have Pandora's syndrome
or 1 of several other problems.  We don't think it i this syndrome as se has
a fairly "enriched" life.  The whole house to roam, toys, 7 boxes, 8 beds to
pick from + my bed and lap.  When it is not raining, snowng or I am at home,
she gets to go out and hunt or just lie in the sun on the deck( 53'x 8').
Toys all over the house, not to mention the other cats to case and play
with.  So now we are stating to look for other reasons the crystals keep
coming back.  I have statd adding vinegar to their drinking water and sice
we like oranges and grapefruit, let her have a bit when I have mine in the
morning.  We are all on Hill's SD (1 can + 2 cns hot water).  Then I spoon
some into all bowls.  They drink the liquid first and laer g back and eat
the meat.!
   Trying to fin alternative to SD.  Petsmart has Royal Canin so will try it
next.  Rigt now, t is cold, cloudy and I still haven't been abe to fix the
garage door so won't be oing out for anything today.  Please excuse the
erros, Dee is helping me.  She likes to stand on the desk and swish her tail
back and forth.  Ever try to see over a cat?  Also have to wash all 8 bs as
Homey pees in them during these bouts with the crystals.  Have to spray with
Natur's Miracle and let it sok for a couple of hours nd then wash.  Can only
get 2 in washer at a time so will be 4 loads and I still won't have my
clothes washed.

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Firefly Please add to the CLS :(

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sherry

My condolensces on the loss of Firefly, who sounds like a sweet little
angel.  Thanks to you and the others for taking care of her.

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:26 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Firefly Please add to the CLS :(

 


Through tears I am writing this,Sids has lost another wonderful girl
todayFirefly got her name by chasing fireflies jumping and trying to
catch them before her rescuer got her off the street. She was the cutest
little tabby girl with the sweetest face and purrsonality. I loved her from
the second I met her as I am sure many of us volunteers were smitten with
this little ladyshe left us too soon but she will ALWAYS have a place in
my heartwow this hurts..

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

[Bonnie Hogue]

Got it!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 2:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

Hey everyone,

I am just testing the list again. Our webhost moved our account to a new
server earlier in the week. And, I haven't seen any traffic on here since
then. I hope this goes through ok. And, I hope everyone is enjoying their
weekend. Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for
Edwardsville, IL)

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wow, Jannes, good luck with your new kitty.  How wonderful of you to give
such a special creature a home.  You will undoubtedly be richly blessed in
return!

~Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat

 

Love this poem! Two weeks ago we rescued an blind and deaf cat who is
guesstimated to be 10 years old. Another challenge in my life but so glad to
be of service. Thanks for sharing such a beautiful poem.



 

Jannes 

From: Marcia 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Poem: This Old Cat

 

It's beautiful! I will share this with the cat lovers I know. Thank you
Natalie(:

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 10, 2012, at 7:00 PM, GRAS  wrote:

Have to share this with my fellow cat lovers, Natalie

 

This Old Cat

 

I'm getting on in years,

My coat is turning gray.

My eyes have lost their luster,

My hearing's just okay.

I spend my day dreaming

Of conquests in my past,

Lying near a sunny window

Waiting for its warm repast.

 

I remember our first visit,

I was coming to you free,

Hoping you would take me in

And keep me company.

I wasn't young or handsome,

Two years I'd roamed the street.

There were scars upon my face,

I hobbled on my feet.

 

I could sense your disappointment

As I left my prison cage.

Oh, I hoped you would accept me

And look beyond my age.

You took me out of pity,

I accepted without shame.

Then you grew to love me,

And I admit the same.

 

I have shared with you your laughter,

You have wet my fur with tears.

We've come to know each other

Throughout these many years.

Just one more hug this morning

Before you drive away,

And know I'll think about you

Throughout your busy day.

 

The time we've left together

Is a treasured time at that.

My heart is yours forever.

I Promise - This old cat.

 

~ K.C. Bigamon

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

[Bonnie Hogue]

Terri

My condolences to you on the loss of your beautiful orange boy.  May your
sweet memories of time together heal your heart, and may Siggie play in the
meadows of peace.

B.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:24 AM
To: RQP; felvtalk; Persian_Rescue; FLUTD listserv
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie

 


Photo E-mail 

View slideshow
 | Download images
 

Hello everyone,

 

Some of you have known me for a while -- others not.

 

Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me
for the Rainbow Bridge.  He was the last of my original group who did NOT
have FeLV.  He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005
(right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets).

 

He was fine all day yesterday.  Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe.
He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him,
soiling himself.  I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had
fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had
threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him.

 

The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he
ended up not needing the help.  They gave him a sedative, and before they
injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone.

 

Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy.  Meowmy and Daddy will miss
you forever.

 

 


 
 


May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012

=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: 
Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and
Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^=

These photos will be available on SkyDrive for 30 days. To learn more about
SkyDrive, click here  .
To share high quality pictures with your friends and family using MSN Photo
E-mail, join MSN  . 

<><><>___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today

[Bonnie Hogue]

Condolences on your painful loss...bless you for loving and appreciating dear 
little Orlando. 

Sent from my iPhone



On May 21, 2012, at 4:47 PM, "Frank & Sue Koren"  wrote:

> It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time.  His 
> tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stopped 
> eating.  He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siamese boy.  The 
> first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up and gave me a 
> hug.  From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is gone and I will 
> never see him again in this world.  He was about 10 when I adopted him and 
> that was four years ago.  He would come up and bite me in the butt for 
> attention when I was working on the computer.  If I got up at night to go to 
> the bathroom he would accompany me.  Always.  I guess that was how I knew it 
> was time.  On the last night he didn't do that.  He will be SO missed.  I 
> hate hate hate this disease.
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] please add Sylvia to the CLS

[Bonnie Hogue]

Anna

Condolences on the loss of your dear friend, Sylvia.  As you have so
beautifully written, you loved and appreciated her in your life, and knew
how to help her exit her life more easily.  I hope the good memories of your
time together heal the pain of your loss.

Peace,

Bonnie

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Anna Waltman
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] please add Sylvia to the CLS

 

Dear all,
I lost my sweet Sylvia cat this afternoon. Despite our best efforts with
daily subcutaneous fluids, appetite stimulants, Interferon, probiotics,
vitamins, steroids, and multiple antibiotics, she was still fading fast and
appeared to be in a significant amount of pain yesterday. So, with a heavy
heart, I took her to the vet one last time this afternoon for a consult. The
vet looked over her chart thoroughly, took a close look at her gums and
listened to her breath, and said that at this point we'd done all we could
do; the anemia was causing her to crash. We agreed, sadly, that it was time
to let her go. This was definitely the hardest choice I've ever made; I'm
only 25 and Sylvia was my first cat as an adult. We bonded immediately and
it has been awful watching her decline over the last month. I'd never been
present when an animal has been euthanized before, and I was extremely
reluctant to see her go this way. I'd hoped she might pass quietly at home,
but she just seemed so uncomfortable that letting her linger struck me as
cruel and selfish. I think I made the right choice. She went peacefully,
wrapped in a clean blanket in my arms, with no pain. While we waited for the
vet, she sat in my lap and purred just like she did as a kitten at her first
vet visit. It broke my heart to let her go, even though I know it was the
kindest thing I could do.

Sylvia was the best cat I've ever had: smart, sweet, devoted, impeccably
well-mannered, pleasantly chatty, cuddly. Up until last month, she was fat,
sassy, and apart from gingivitis, quite healthy, so I am confident she had a
good life. I will miss her terribly. I already do. I'm glad I have my lively
little clownish siamese mix, Beatrice (who, as far as I know, is FeLV
negative and healthy as a horse) to keep me company. It'll just be the two
of us for a little while, so we have time to mourn the loss of a truly great
friend, old soul, and gentle spirit.

I am so, so sad...but also thankful for four years with a wonderful cat.
Some animals make you a better person. I think Sylvia has done that for me,
and I will always remember her.

Thanks to all of you who have given me advice and support over the last few
years. I'm grateful to have had a group of more experienced cat owners to
turn to with questions and concerns; you all have been a great source of
comfort and information. Best of luck to you and yours in fighting this
awful disease.
Sadly,
Anna (and Beatrice)


-- 
Anna Elisabeth Waltman
PhD Candidate // Contemporary American Poetics
Department of English and American Literature
University of Massachusetts, Amherst

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet

[Bonnie Hogue]

Me too!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of lexingtongrn
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet

 

Got it

 

From: James G Wilson 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:56 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet


Hey all,

Just testing the list since it's been so quiet. Hope this 
goes through ok. Best wishes to all.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone
http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL)


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

[Bonnie Hogue]

Well, actually, that can lead to a stroke, which can be slow and gruesome ... 
Me, I've taken up mountain biking... Hope they find me collapsed on a hillside 
with a view!

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Marcia Baronda  wrote:

> I have to tell you, that after watching my Mom go through the death process, 
> I have decided that high cholesterol is lookin pretty good to me!
> 
> Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
> 2010. 
> 
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 9:40 AM,  wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like my father!  He also passed at home.  He woke up hot and sweaty 
>> and said he wanted a bath.  I started to bathe him and got his head done 
>> when I noticed him listing to one side.  Tried to get him back to bed, but 
>> had to let him lie on floor rather than drop him.  Did CPR, called 911, but 
>> he was gone before they got there.  Miss him very much, but glad he went 
>> that way.
>> 
>> 
>>  Lorrie  wrote: 
>>> Good for him.  Dying at home is the best way.
>>> I want to croak at home in my own bed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09-26, Terri Brown wrote:
  My father who passed away this past December (may he rest in peace),
  passed away at home, with morphine drops and water if he wanted it.  In
  his case, it was heart failure, and he didn't want to die in the
  hospital.
 
  He literally said to my sister (pardon the language) "I am sick of this
  fucking hospital.  Take me home.  I want to die on my couch."
 
  So that's what he did.
 
  Terri
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: [1]Lorrie
 
  To: [2]felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:57 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia
 
I guess your mom requested no tubes, and this is why she only
got morphine. I'm sure glad she had that.  Hospice is usually
very generous with it, whereas hospitals aren't.  Never go to
a hospital to die. They do everything they can to keep you alive
and they never give patients enough pain medication.  I've worked
in hospitals and heard patients crying and moaning with no relief,
because doctors are afraid patients might get addicted.
This ridiculous when the person is gonna die anyway!!
On 09-26, Marcia Baronda wrote:
> My mom had morphine...hospice wouldn't allow fluids.
___
Felvtalk mailing list
[3]Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
[4]http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemi
a.org
 
 References
 
  1. mailto:felineres...@frontier.com
  2. mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  3. mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  4. http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>>> 
 ___
 Felvtalk mailing list
 Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> Felvtalk mailing list
>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> Felvtalk mailing list
>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter

[Bonnie Hogue]

Wow!  I didn't know that!  Makes me reconsider what I'm using in my six 
boxes... Used to use "World's Best" but it is also 'world's most expensive'... 
Got to rethink it now. Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> For an average of 70 cats, I cannot afford to dump litter, and or the 
> delightful aroma it would cause if I didn’t do it 2x/day or more, as needed. 
> It doesn’t matter whether it’s dusty or not, clumping litter still contains 
> sodium bentonite, and it doesn’t have to be listed on the bag/box.  The one 
> and only way of knowing whether it doesn’t contain SB, is if it’s allowed to 
> be flushed down a toilet; its’ a compound used in construction to seal the 
> space between earth and foundation by absorbing 15 times its weight in 
> liquid.  It can get into a cat’s urethra and cause a blockage, get ingested 
> when grooming and cause intestinal blockage or when inhaled, turn into a 
> solid block in the lungs by absorbing the moisture.
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee 
> Evans
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 6:12 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
>  
> Definitely bending over for any length of time can be a big pain in the back. 
>  I pick up my litter boxes and place them on a plastic lawn furniture end 
> table.  It raises the box to a level where I can scoop in comfort and the 
> cats like to sit under it and play with my pants leg. 'Stop that, stop that, 
> no claws!!"  I can't easily get up from those garden kneeler seats because of 
> really weak knees.  Whoever coined the term "Golden Years" was probably not 
> yet 18.
>  
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> From: Edna Taylor 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
>  
> Yep, my college degree sits behind me at my desk doing me absolutely no good 
> whatsoever ;)
>  
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700
> From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> I have 40 cats so any cat litter expense is going to be flushing money down 
> the drain or into the garbage.  I use pine pellets which cost $6.00 for 40 
> lbs. at Tractor Supply.  At that price my cats can poop and pee in luxury.  
> The pine breaks down to a yellow powder though and I have to sweep it up all 
> the time to prevent my cat room from looking like a weird beach because the 
> cats dig and then track with their paws.  Yellow, yellow everywhere.  I use a 
> light weight variable length squeegee to sweep because a broom just makes all 
> that yellow go airborne. At least there is no initial dust up when I pour the 
> pine and it really deodorizes the contents of the litter box unless I don't 
> dump it often enough. I dump and wash and refill about every 3 days, scoop 
> the poop every day. Lots of work.  For this I needed a college degree?
>  
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> From: Lorrie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Scoopable Litter
> 
> I use scoopable litter, but I use the dust free kind. Some scoopable
> litter is so dusty clouds of it billow up and this is obviously bad
> stuff.  I never use any scoopinig litter with small kittens, but 
> with as many grown cats as I have (total 24) I use very large litter 
> boxes and I simply can't lift them (to dump) when they are filled with 
> the clay litter. I have painful arthritis and I'm ancient... almost 80.
> 
> I'd really like to hear from others on the list about who uses clay
> litter and who uses scoopable.  Fresh Step and Tidy Cat scoopable don't
> seem to have any dust at all, but it's scary to think scoopable litter
> is so bad.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> On 10-08, Natalie wrote:
> > 
> >Liter, especially clumping litter, should be banned - I have tons of
> >info on it, how a company responded to a concerned cat owner, "Buyer
> >beware".  I discourage all my adopters from using it.  Sodium bentonite
> >is fatal to cats if they inhale it, eat it, inadvertently when cleaning
> >themselves - or kittens, while playing.
> > 
> >People always seem to think that if something is expensive, it must be
> >the best - and they want the best for their cats!  Hartz litter is
> >pretty disgusting, too!
> > 
> >Natalie
> > 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> 
> 
> ___ Felvtalk mailing list 
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> __

Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Please take the politics and other OT topics to appropriate lists

[Bonnie Hogue]

Loud and Clear.  Thank you!
And I too hope you don't have to suspend this very valuable resource!
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
James G Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Please take the politics and other OT topics to
appropriate lists

Hey all,

I must reiterate that this list is for discussing FeLV, treatments, and
support for caregivers. It is NOT a politics, hunting, personal soapbox,
etc. list. We have a well-defined mission here to discuss FeLV. All of these
other topics need to be taken to forums where such topics are discussed. I
would hate to have to suspend this list because some want to ignore or bring
their own interpretations into my gentle reminder about OT posting here.
But, if suspending this list for a short time is the only way to stop the
continuation of the off-topic chatter, I will have to do so. It is rude to
continue these conversations after being asked to stop. Thank you for your
consideration and cooperation. Kind regards.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville,
IL)


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Ta ta for now

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks for sharing the great information.  Very helpful to me, as I seek to use 
the best products for my beloved furry friends.

Sorry to see you check out – you have been very helpful, to me.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ta ta for now

 

It seems that this topic still isn’t closed, is it?  There have been comments 
after the one you just responded to here.

 

I joined because a friend recommended this group, and it has been helpful.  I 
had 2 adult FeLV+ cats.  One of the cats died of CRF, and the other was adopted 
by a veterinarian and is still doing OK.  Those 2 cats lived with a large group 
of healthy cats for about 6 months, and I tested all starting with very young 
and older cats – not a single cat contracted the virus!  6 months should have 
been enough time to do so, shouldn’t it?

Since I don’t have any FeLV positive cats right now, I decided that I will get 
off this list – I learned things that I’d rather not have known, such as 
someone hunting small game, another person having cats declawed routinely, I 
guess because the vet offers such a great deal, etc. 

But before I leave, I will post just one site about Clumping litter containing 
sodium bentonite.  Don’t forget, it doesn’t have to be listed in the 
ingredients!~  And as long as it states that it can be flushed down the toilet, 
is doesn’t contain SB, which would completely block the plumbing.

I’ve seen so many reviews, often poo-pooing the dangers, misstating that SB 
expands 5 times its weight (it’s capable of absorbing liquid and moisture 15 x 
its weight, and is- used in construction).  The best article was written in 
Tiger Tribe, a holistic cat magazine that is no longer published. When I heard 
that they were closing down operations, I bought all the back issues. 
http://www.thelighthouseonline.com/articles/clump.html - Clumping clay litters, 
a deadly convenience.

This one is short and sweet. 
http://kapush.net/cat-litter/sodium-bentonite-cat-litter-dangers/ -

Natalie

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy 
reasoner
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President

 


I disagree. Please can we just end all the political talk.

 

Cindy Reasoner

 

--- On Wed, 10/10/12, GRAS  wrote:


From: GRAS 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 2:10 PM

I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a 
platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any 
candidate horrible names!

 

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story

[Bonnie Hogue]

Good Story about Momma Tulip.  Someone once said they spayed their female,
who seemed so grateful to not have to have any more kittens!  Sounds like MT
was there!

~Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
CATHERINE DIDONNA
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story

 

Hi, that is a nice storyIn Jan.2005 I was standing outside my house
and something just flew by. I said to my neighbor was that a rat or a
kitten.? Well, it was a kitten and he ran right inside my house. He is
gray,with white feet,small,and his nam is M & M..Also, a mother cat
who I named Momma Tulip was always having babies.When I moved in this house
I was told that by my neighbors. Well Momma Tulip wuold go thru plastic bags
to get food. I would tell her I'm gonna get you. Well. I did get her
inside,but she was ferral so I didn't know how to get her to the vet. The
day of her appointment Momma Tulip was sitting in the carrier. So, she was
spayed,and I was so happy to see her always with food,water,warmth,and
love.I kept my promise. Cathy Bronx N Y



 

From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:21 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Unusual kitten story


Hi Everyone,

Here's a kitten story you should all enjoy. My daughter who helps
me with rescue work and TNR, has a lot of stray cats at her house.
There is one feral in particular she has been trying to trap for 
years. This cat produces at least 2 litters a year, and she hides
the kittens and then brings them around when they are about 9 or 
10 weeks and as wild as their mother is.  This year she brought 
her 3 kittens earlier than usual (about 3 or 4 weeks old) and my 
daughter was able to gather them up and bring them inside to be
socialized. BUT how to catch the mom??  She has tried a trap to
no avail. This is one smart mom cat!  So she set up a large plastic
storage box on the front porch where she feeds all these strays,
and put the kittens inside. She had a large screen to put on top
if mom cat went inside, but she had to hide, as mom cat wouldn't
go in if she saw Karin. Well quick as a flash the mother grabbed
one of the kittens and ran!  Karin brought the other two back in
and the mother cat had the other kitten outside someplace for 2
days. Karin saw no sign of the third kitten, but when the weather 
got very cold and rainy she finally saw the mom and kitten on her
porch.  Karin opened the door to get the kitten, and the mother 
tried to grab him and run but the kitten saw Karin and ran to
her instead! 

I think this is an amazing story. Did that kitten remember being 
inside where it was warm, or had he bonded with my daughter before 
his cat mom stole him?  All 3 kittens are now safe, and warm inside 
and learning to eat well.

I hope you enjoyed this story and I wonder if any of you have had
similar stories to share.

Lorrie and 14 rescued cats and Karin with 18 rescued cats!!



- End forwarded message -

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

[Bonnie Hogue]

Nice of you to give little creatures a home.  You'll go to Heaven one day,
you know!

(or It's equivalent)

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Edna Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; marciabmar...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home

 

You ROCK!
 

> From: katsk...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:26:06 -0400
> To: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
> 
> As an FYI I am adopting cat(s). Meeting rescuer tomorrow near
> Columbus. Will be taking in to test for FeLV and get vaccinations
> following day. It/they if he can snare the black one she abandoned
> too, will join my current 8 cats and 4 dogs.
> 
> Kat
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

[Bonnie Hogue]

"Felaway" or "Pet-tastc"(cat formula) are great scent neutralizers!

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Kathryn Green  wrote:

> Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
> vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
> to get her exam and vaccinations.
> 
> Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
> Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
> jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
> were here first - or something!
> 
> So far they are both doing well.
> 
> Kat
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] More Official Types of Cats

[Bonnie Hogue]

Love your decorating suggestions!  Ha!
But did you include my Miya-Chan?  She's been referred to as a "brushed coat 
Calico"...all colors, some stripes, but 'brushed' thru her coat rather than 
appearing in distinct patches!  She's purrr-dee!

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> In the Calico-Tortoise Shell Cats Category you have
> 
> Torties - The true Tortoise Shell cat, mostly black and orange blended
> Harlequin Tortie - face is half orange, half black in the same blend
> Torbie - combination of tabby and Tortie, a Tortoise Shell cat with tabby 
> stripes
> Dilute Tortie - Instead of black, grey and sort of pinkish orange(like 
> Torties that faded in the laundry)
> Calico - white with large patches of orange and black, with or without stripes
> Dilute Calico - white  with large patches of grey and pinkish orange (they 
> look like Calico cats that faded in the laundry.
> 
>   Combining Cats With Furniture for the Best Effect 
> 
> Calico cats and Tortoise Shell cats will go with most decors so if you have a 
> sofa that is white with black and orange cushions, you may adopt one of 
> these.  However, if your decor is all white, I would recommend a white cat 
> and all black, a black cat. A really good conversation starter is created 
> when you get a black cat with a white sofa. People will comment on what a 
> lovely zebra striped sofa you have.
> 
> There is actually a Yahoo group devoted to Tortoise Shell Cats.  There's 
> probably one devoted to Calico Cats also.  If I didn't have to rescue cats 
> according to their need, I would have had two dozen Calico Cats. My first cat 
> was a kitten I named Tuffy. She was a true calico.  She was with me for 13 
> and a half years. I still miss her.  She used to sit with me when I played 
> the piano, right next to me on the piano bench, even when I was just 
> practicing.  Still love that cat.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home - Types of cats

[Bonnie Hogue]

I need new furniture but have decided to get used stuff until I have older 
cats.  Makes it easier on everyone!

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Marcia  wrote:

> I love the color exchange for cats! And the black cats sitting in the window! 
> I am amazed however that furniture can be more important to someone than the 
> little soul that they have spent the last 2 years with!  My cats shredded my 
> new chair and when people say anything about it I just tell them "what can I 
> say? I like my cats a hell of a lot more than I like that stupid inanimate 
> object!"
> Why is that hard to understand? 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:
> 
>> This actually happened to me when I was answering our hotline for VOICE For 
>> Animals.  A woman called asking if we could take an orange cat.  I asked her 
>> why. What she said was that she had purchased a white sofa and the cat was 
>> getting orange fur all over it.  She said she would be willing to take a 
>> white cat in exchange.  She had had the orange cat for 2 years, had come 
>> into some money recently and was buying new living room furniture.  I 
>> finally talked her out of dumping her cat on us by telling her about the 
>> sticky roller product for removing lint and hair from things.  I also told 
>> her that she should purchase a multicolored  sofa cover to keep the sofa 
>> covered for general use and whisk off the cover when company arrives. She 
>> was delighted with the ideas.  I should write a book on how to color 
>> coordinate your rooms with your cats and dogs and how to color coordinate 
>> your daily work outfits with a shedding pet.
>> 
>> Along those lines, here's a great idea for people who have too many cats and 
>> don't want the Animal Control Officer to notice.  Exchange your cats with 
>> your neighbors until you all have sets of cats of the same color.  You can 
>> take the white cats, then paint your furniture and walls white.  The Officer 
>> will never notice the cats since they will blend in with everything.  And 
>> you will go snow blind. A friend of mine actually had 6 black cats in an 
>> apartment where they only allowed 3 pets total. But with all the black cats, 
>> any time a cat sat at the window, it looked like the same cat.  Cool, right?
>> 
>>  
>> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>> neighbors too!
>> 
>> 
>> From: Marcia 
>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 3:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home - Types of cats
>> 
>> Lol Lee I like the pairing of furniture and cats. You should write a 
>> book(-;
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:
>> 
>>> All Black - Black Cats
>>> Black with white patch on chest and belly - Medallion Cats
>>> Black Cape with White Cravat - Tuxedo Cats
>>>   Unofficial Types (I made up the names)
>>> White With Black Polka Dots - Spotty Cats or Cow Spot Cats
>>> White With Black on Head and Ears, Black Tail: Toupee Cats wearing Formal 
>>> Tails.
>>> All Black Cats - Panthers
>>> Tabbies - Tigers
>>> Orange Tabbies - Pumpkin Tigers
>>> Grey Cats - Dust Bin Cats (some call them Russian Blues)
>>> Tabby and White - Cape Cats
>>> Pink Cat - got into the Strawberry ice cream I left on the kitchen counter 
>>> (originally white cat)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>>> neighbors too!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: CATHERINE DIDONNA 
>>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 1:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
>>> 
>>> if u do a web search ,it shows you cats, It says they are medium size,JET 
>>> BLACK,gleaming coat,GOLD TO COPPER EYES,sweet,facial expression.I have 
>>> several all black cats,Naya, Ebony,Onyx,Heidi then I have black with the 
>>> white on its chest which people call the collar in French, Bernie  
>>> Mack,Button,Zorro he has the white mark on his chest and below his 
>>> belly,Vogue, Nikita,then I have black and white ones.I HAVE 
>>> LAMONT who is small all black and has  those gold,deep orange,or copper 
>>> eyes.Cathy
>>> From: Kathryn Green 
>>> To: Edna Taylor  
>>> Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 8:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in Ohio needs home
>>> 
>>> "Bombay kitty"?  What does that mean?
>>> 
>>> K
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> Felvtalk mailing list
>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> Felvtalk mailing list
>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> Felvtalk mailing list
>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.or

Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

[Bonnie Hogue]

Someone would get a male cat a vasectomy?  Or have a female cat's tubes
tied?

Wow.people are stupider than I thought.

B.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
janine paton
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

 

The stress of an unspayed female is great, I think much greater than the
spaying itself.  And it may be true that pyometria is more common in dogs,
but boy have we seen plenty in outside cats, even young ones.  One couldn't
have been more than a year old and we had no idea her slightly swollen belly
was pyometria.  And have h ad a few with mammary cancer also.  Not worth it.
Use a decent vet and get your cat spayed!  

 

  _  

From: Lee Evans 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Tue, November 20, 2012 8:57:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

Amen to that sister.  My cat Cookie, long ago, was borderline diabetic.  The
vet didn't want to subject her to anesthesia because he said she was an
older cat and might develop full blown diabetes since she was on the edge.
So I didn't have her spayed.  She went into her heat cycle several more
times, then gave it up as a bad idea.  She lived an additional 5 years with
me as a house feral. One day I noticed blood on her chair towel (I use
towels to cover the plastic chairs in my house.  Everything here has to be
washable).  I also noticed that Cookie was acting very lethargic.  I finally
got her into a carrier.  At the clinic they flipped her over and I was
horrified.  All her nipples were black, some were enlarged, two were
bleeding.  She had severe mammary cancer.  The vet said she was probably in
pain.  There was nothing I could do.  He gave her a pain injection.  She
became drowsy and I allowed him to euthanize her.  I will NEVER NOT SPAY a
cat.  Male cats can get prostate cancer.  There is no proven reason why cats
and dogs can't be spayed and neutered.  Humans have the operation all the
time for ovarian cancer and prostate cancer.  If physicians didn't do
hysterectomies on women with cancer or with precancerous lesions the cancers
would metastasize and more people would die.  

In addition, try and get an intact spraying male cat or howling female cat
adopted.  It will just not work.

Or, as an alternative, get the female's tubes tied and give the male a
vasectomy and you still have all the mating behavior in addition to the
operations costing almost a thousand dollars as opposed to spay/neuter that
can be had for a cost as low as $15 including rabies shot.

I want to add that my mother, a registered nurse at the time, forbade me to
have any of our yard cats neutered or spayed citing the ridiculous argument
that animals and people have to be left natural.  Consequently I allowed two
intact cats to remain that way, filling my yard with 7 kittens who, although
I didn't know it, were FeLv positive and active for the disease.  They all
died.  Had I spayed and neutered mom and dad cat, I would have saved 7
kittens from being born and dying in illness and discomfort and possibly
saved mom and dad cats from wandering away to spread the disease all over
the neighborhood.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


  _  


From: Beth 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying advice

 

I'm not going to start an argument over one study. 
Being in heat was very stressful on the one of the 1st FeLV cats I had. The
spay was easy & she recovered quickly.
My cats have all been spayed. We've had cats live well into their 20's - all
spayed.
Cats who still have their ovaries, which are responsible for heat cycles,
are much more likely to develop mammary cancer.
Cats (& dogs) can also develop an infection in their uterus (pyometra) from
not being spayed..

There is just not enough evidence out there to make me even think about not
getting my cats, FeLV or not,  spayed.

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
  www.Furkids.org
 

 

 


  _  


 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

[Bonnie Hogue]

Yeah, I understand.  I dearly love the cats (all five who live indoors with
me) and really enjoy their company (sounds strange to some, but you all
probably understand).  I like to look at the couch and love seat and see
lovely sleeping felines.makes me feel fortunate!

However.being newly single it is something (ahem) to explain to possible
suitors.  The only part I *don't* like is that the furniture is off-white
and has had puke, pee and 'whatever' tossed on it.  That and the fur.  But
as I tell people, one day I'll write a memoir titled, "Covered in Cat Hair:
A Story of Love."

After that hits the best seller list I'll buy new furniture!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Edna Taylor
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly
covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck
cloth) slip covers that can be washed.  Once all the "pisser" have passed
on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;)
 

  _  

Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats.  If
you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a
complaint.  Furrever in love with cats. 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


  _  


From: LauraM 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work
because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched.

 

As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture
protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I
also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot.
Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to
replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp
over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a
multitude of cats.

 

Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and
can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that
read:  "For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't." I
need to buy it.

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org




___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org




___ Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

[Bonnie Hogue]

A while back someone posted information on cautions using essential oils
around cats.  I believe it was a link to a website with information.

Dear whomever:  could you kindly repost that?

Many thanks,

Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Suggestion for Cat (or foot) Warmers

[Bonnie Hogue]

Taking off on your idea for cat beds:

My mom used to make little "rice bags."  They are about 12"x10" but I think
you could make other sizes.  Create a bag, fill it with rice, leave room so
it is "squishy" rather than firm, sew up the corner.  You can put a cover on
or not.  Then, on a cold night, microwave the bag (3-4 mins depending upon
your microwave oven) and you have a thing that stays nice and warm for
hours.  We use them for our feet on a cold night.  My aunt used to put them
out for her feral yard cat, in a box, to keep the kitty warm.  She said the
cat used to wait for them by the door on a cold night.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

 

It's my way of avoiding my insect phobia.  I turn them into "people" and
imagine what they would think in any given situation.

On another note:  

Jo-Ann Stores is having a 50% off sale on fleece and flannel.  Do you know
anyone who can sew?  I'm two left hands and 10 thumbs but someone who can
sew could probably make some nice cat snuggle beds and pillow covers for
cats or kids or whatever.  You can get their discount coupon emails at
 jo-ann@email.joann.comand they will add you
to their email list.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


  _  


From: katskat1 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture


Never having seen a scorpion laughing, I am kindof sorry I missed that.

Kat

P.S.  I am right on the cusp of  libra and scorpio. October 23.  I
still would have squished the sucker.  He attacked first!

On 12/2/12, Lee Evans  wrote:
> Brown scorpions are the nasty type.  I was zapped by a regular generic
type
> scorpion.  I'm idiotically superstitious. I was born at the end of
October.
> Scorpio.  I wouldn't harm a scorpion for anything.  Really bad luck. So I
> walked away from the encounter yowling and the scorpion walked away
> laughing.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>
>>
>>

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks for the info!  It is as I remember, and I can pass along to a friend
who was curious.

B.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

 

I really would not use any fragrances around cats or even around dogs.  One
holiday, I boiled some cinnamon on the stove to make the house smell like
gingerbread.  Several of my cats began to sneeze and one began to have
watery eyes.  If you want fragrances, keep them away form the rooms where
the cats stay.  I don't buy scented cat litter either.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


  _  


From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats and 'Essential Oils'

 

Not sure if it was me, but here's one of my favorites:
http://holisticat.com/aromatherapy.html   Some contend that they are OK if
they are high-quality.   I would use hydrosols or flower essences instead,
just to be on the safe side.   

 

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Bonnie Hogue  wrote:

A while back someone posted information on cautions using essential oils
around cats.  I believe it was a link to a website with information.

Dear whomever:  could you kindly repost that?

Many thanks,

Bonnie


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture

[Bonnie Hogue]

Great idea!  My problem isn't the Peeing so much as tossing fur balls & cat 
barf... Oh well.  They're still my loves!

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:28 PM, catatonya  wrote:

> I don't care what it looks like. I care what it smells like. Lol. I did order 
> some patio furniture from Home Depot. It's not that comfortable, but I only 
> put cushions on the chair I'll be sitting in since I live by myself. When I 
> go to bed I throw the cushions in the spare bedroom. I don't have to cover or 
> vacuum them because I don't take them out  unless someone comes over. As soon 
> as they leave I put the cushions away. If a cushion does get peed on it can 
> be washed. I have nothing upholstered left in my house.
>  
> It does look better, but mostly it saves me all the work of covering it and 
> vacuuming it, and washing all the various coverings.
>  
> Also was cheap because I bought it off season. Additionally if a cushion gets 
> ruined I can always by new patio furniture cushions in the future.
>  
> I'm hoping this will make things cheaper. I typically take any couch friends 
> are giving away and throw it away when it gets peed on in a place where the 
> cats have uncovered all plastic
>  
> tonya
> 
> From: Kathryn Green 
> To: Lee Evans  
> Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
> 
> Sounds perfect to me!
> Lee Evans  wrote:
> 
> Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need.  I live in 
> South Texas.  We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to a 
> rural area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to deal 
> with stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own ordinances, 
> I also have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking crawlies.  I tend to 
> stay away from anything upholstered in favor of washable pillows, washable 
> patio cushions, large towels from Goodwill and snuggy cat beds and blankets. 
> Anything that can't be hosed down or tossed into the washing machine has no 
> place in a house that 38 cats call home. As long as I can park my rump on 
> something that is clean, won't have any hidden, stinging surprises and is 
> fairly comfortable, I don't care what it looks like.
> 
> Fortunately, almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm 
> "normal".  
> 
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Drinking and Dunking

[Bonnie Hogue]

Speaking of cats & water, here's a question.  How come Stormy is extremely 
finicky about having fresh, clean water in her bowl...but if her water bowl 
isn't good enough, she'll jump up onto the counter and drink water out of the 
dishes in the sink.  Is the soaking potato baking dish water so much more 
delicious?  Or is she just pretentious and will drink 'after' humans but not 
other cats?   Go figure felines!

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> My kitchen has a center island.  Cats like to jump from the top of the 
> refrigerator to the island.  Most make it nicely but Buttons, my 200 pound 
> porker took a flying leap, skidded across the entire counter.  The look on 
> his face was one of shear terror as he went over the edge and splashed down 
> in the water bowl.  Then he walked away with as much dignity as a soaking wet 
> cat could muster. After that incident, I changed the location of the water 
> bowls to under the outcrop of the island so if someone slides off the edge, 
> he/she won't land in the drink.
> 
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
> 
> From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Change subject line.. Cat in Ohio needs home
> 
> RE:  water bowls, mine don't swim in them, they pat the water and throw it 
> out, run or slide into bowl .  I hve fountain in kitchen surrounded by sponge 
> to soak up the spills.  i thought it was leaking so bought a new one.  took 
> it out on deck to test it.  it didn't leak.  man time someone slide into new 
> one  and knocked half of th water out.
> 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Miya Chan

[Bonnie Hogue]

Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she was in
kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn't expect her to go so soon.
Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on the
foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when I bent to
kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain free, and may we
meet again.

Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.

Thank you,

Bonnie

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

[Bonnie Hogue]

Terrie, Maryam, Beth (and anyone I missed) thanks a million for you good 
thoughts and kind words.  It means a great deal to me.  I know we've all lost 
beloved animal friends so understand the sorrow.
Thank you.
Bonnie

Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 6, 2013, at 9:31 PM,  wrote:

> Sorry for the typo errors! Corrected them below!
> This happens when I send off too soon! :(
> 
> 
> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> Sultan, WA. 98294
> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> http://tazzys.org/
> Non-Profit national rescue
> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
>  
>  
> Copyright © 1999-2012 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
>  
>  
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
> From: 
> Date: Sun, January 06, 2013 9:26 pm
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> 
> Bonnie,
> So sorry for your sudden lost of your kitty!
> It's never easy to lose them quickly.
> Bless you for giving her a life that she would have never had if she hadn't 
> of been with you.
> May she run free at the Rainbow Bridge with many others that have gone before 
> her. My late husband and Taz will be there with open arms/paws to greet her. 
> You will be with her again someday!
> You are in my thoughts and prayers!
>  
> Terrie
> 
> TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> Sultan, WA. 98294
> Terrie Mohr-Forker
> http://tazzys.org/
> Non-Profit national rescue
> Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
>  
>  
> Copyright © 1999-2012 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
>  
>  
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
> From: "Bonnie Hogue" 
> Date: Sun, January 06, 2013 3:50 pm
> To: 
> 
> Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she was in 
> kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn’t expect her to go so soon.  
> Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on the 
> foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when I bent to 
> kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain free, and may we 
> meet again.
> Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Bonnie
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

[Bonnie Hogue]

Sweet thought -- Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> They are here for such a short time and then they are gone but somewhere, in 
> a parallel Universe, Miya Chan is still alive and purring and a version of 
> yourself is there with her. One night, you may visit her in a dream and feel 
> her warmth and see her lovely fur, so while you are there, sneak in a kiss or 
> two on the top of her head before you wake up to yourself back here. You made 
> her life a happy dream.
> 
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
> 
> From: Terri Brown 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
> 
> Goodnight, sweet Miya Chan...
>  
> =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
> Samantha, 
> Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato 
> Vampire =^..^=
> - Original Message -
> From: Bonnie Hogue
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:50 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
> 
> Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she was in 
> kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn’t expect her to go so soon.  
> Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on the 
> foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when I bent to 
> kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain free, and may we 
> meet again.
> Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Bonnie
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks, Kelley.  I think you're right -- there's a sunlit meadow in which
our friends watch a butterfly flutter by!

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Kelley S
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 12:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan

Bonnie,

I'm sorry for  your loss.  My Missy, Morgana, Shimmer and Muffin were there
to meet her I am sure.

Kelley

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Marcia Baronda 
wrote:
> I'm so sorry for your loss Bonnie, but so grateful that she had you 
> while she was here.
>
> Marcia
>
> Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, 
> Christmas 2010.
>
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Bonnie Hogue  wrote:
>
> Sweet thought -- Thank you!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:
>
> They are here for such a short time and then they are gone but 
> somewhere, in a parallel Universe, Miya Chan is still alive and 
> purring and a version of yourself is there with her. One night, you 
> may visit her in a dream and feel her warmth and see her lovely fur, 
> so while you are there, sneak in a kiss or two on the top of her head 
> before you wake up to yourself back here. You made her life a happy dream.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
>
>
> 
> From: Terri Brown 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
>
> Goodnight, sweet Miya Chan...
>
> =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
> Samantha,
> Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato 
> Vampire =^..^=
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bonnie Hogue
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:50 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Miya Chan
>
> Little _Miya Chan_ died unexpectedly Friday morning.  Apparently she 
> was in kidney failure, according to the Vet.  Didn't expect her to go so
soon.
> Lovely brushed coat calico, rehabilitated feral who loved sleeping on 
> the foot of my bed and would raise up her head and close her eyes when 
> I bent to kiss the top of her head.  May she rest peacefully and pain 
> free, and may we meet again.
> Your good thoughts, positive energy and prayers for Miya are appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Bonnie
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie & Molly

[Bonnie Hogue]

Lorrie, I'm so sorry for your loss and heartache, but how wonderful of you to 
take these little kitties.  You have made a huge difference in their 
lives...and as we know, their love is our payment.  
Blessings to you and your calico angels.
Bonnie

Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Yesterday was a sad day I had my beautiful, sweet calico kitten,
> Maggie, euthanized.  She was only 9 months old. Her sister, Molly, was 
> euthanized last month, and they are buried side by side in the woods next 
> to our house. I took in this litter of 4 FelV kittens in July knowing 
> they'd probably all die, and consequently break my heart, but I had room 
> in my FelV sanctuary so I wanted to give them a chance, and they had 9 
> happy months living in the upstairs of my large rescue building in town.
> 
> I watched them running thru their rooms, scooting thru the tunnels, 
> climbing up the cat posts, and walking across the wall walks which were 
> built just for them, and they were happy kittens. Their three rooms upstairs
> were all made into a cat play ground and also had second hand furniture below 
> the walk ways where I could sit and cuddle them or they could sleep. They had 
> a good life, and longer than they'd have had if I hadn't taken them in from 
> the person who was going to have them PTS because of the FelV virus. 
> 
> For 8 months they seemed to be in perfect health, and I actually believed 
> they'd be fine, but then Molly, who was also a calico, got sick. Maggie
> still seemed fine but a bit more quiet, but within a week or so she went
> downhill fast. Two of the precious kittens from this litter are still 
> with us, and so far they seem in good health, but for how long?  No doubt 
> I'll be in tears again when this horrible virus over takes them.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine

[Bonnie Hogue]

Hi Rachel
I tried the L-Lysine "human" tablets for my cat and he threw up!  Maybe
someone knows how to dose it down, but I felt it was risky.  In fact, he
never tolerated the vet's product, either.  Maybe it's just him.
Good luck.
I know it is good for humans as when I get a cold sore it knocks it right
out (caution: can cause constipation).
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Raven
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine

My vet has a pharmacy mix up a cat suitable dosage of liquid L-Lysine (with
fish flavoring). It is quite expensive and I always have some left over. I
was wondering if anyone knows if this stuff can still be used after the "use
by" date or not?

Also I've seen in health food stores lysine capsules. I was wondering if
anyone uses that for their cat and in what dosage? Or if anyone knows if
that would be something that could be done? I figured it would probably be
okay if the conversions were right but since the mix I get from the pharmacy
also contains some sort of fish flavor that may change the ml so I don't
know.

Thank you for any help.

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th?

[Bonnie Hogue]

Got it!
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
James G Wilson
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing.. no mail since Feb. 9th?

Hey all, 

I think there may be a problem with our server since there has been no mail
since the 9th. I will be checking into this today as time permits. Sorry for
the inconvenience. 
Kind regards.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville,
IL)


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

[Bonnie Hogue]

Yep, got it!
Bonnie

Sent from my iPhone



On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:22 PM, "James G Wilson"  wrote:

> Hey all, 
> 
> Just sending a quick note to see if our webhost has fixed 
> the mailing list issues. Please ignore this note. Hope all is 
> well with everyone and their furries! Best wishes.
> 
> James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
> http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support)
> http://www.facebook.com/crambone
> http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL)
> 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

[Bonnie Hogue]

Lynda, working good on my end!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

 

received Smile

 

From: ter...@tazzys.org 

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:24 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working

 

I see ya!

 

Terrie

 

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
http://tazzys.org/
Non-Profit national rescue

Dedicated to the welfare of animals.

 


Copyright © 1999-2012 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.

 

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing again to be sure the list is working
From: "James G Wilson" 
Date: Tue, February 26, 2013 12:22 pm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Hey all, 

Just sending a quick note to see if our webhost has fixed 
the mailing list issues. Please ignore this note. Hope all is 
well with everyone and their furries! Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support)
http://www.facebook.com/crambone
http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL)


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

  _  

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

<>___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] raw food FeLV pos cats

[Bonnie Hogue]

I'd sure LOVE to know how to prepare and feed a home made diet to my cats.
The one time I purchased "raw food" (frozen, at the farm center) they turned
up their noses at it.  They are mega-fussy.  I feel fortunate to have hit on
a dry food they will (mostly) eat.  Lucky Cat - who has crystals in his
bladder sometimes - won't eat the CD canned food from the vet (which I mix
with the canned food he loves).  It's a worrisome chore, feeding these five
cats.  Sigh.

Thanks for any advice.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of KG
BarnCats
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 8:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Carrie Rosenblatt
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] raw food FeLV pos cats

 

Hi,
For several years I have primarily fed home made raw to my horde of cats
(FELV + separated) and dogs, and have never had any food related problem
whatsoever.  They are in wonderful condition. I do mix in some fish as a
treat every week or so, but it is canned tuna, mackerel, or sardines (all in
water, not oil).  I carefully follow a balanced recipe with no grains,
starches, veggies.

I make a point of being very well read on the publicized risks but I think
they are very overstated - after all, raw is what cats evolved to eat over
millions of years.  Their digestive systems are short and acidic.   Most
vets are poorly trained on nutrition and much of that training comes via the
pet food industry, which makes a bundle selling biologically inappropriate
grain laden, carb heavy, overproccessed, overpriced crap.  Of course they
fear-monger about raw food, even for cats with perfectly healthy immune
systems.  As if dry food hasn't been proven to have frequent contamination
with salmonella etc.  No human has ever been shown to catch disease from raw
food, but there are loads of cases of people getting it from commercial pet
food.  And that doesn't even begin to address the factors of salivary
enzymes as the cat gnaws chunks of meat/bone, or the enzymes and nutrients
destroyed by the disgusting rendering process, or the plastic and filth
cooked in with the often rancid ingredients.  Or the risk of tainted
ingredients. Or the fact that cats are far less healthy overall than they
were 50 years ago... just research the huge jump in diabetes, obesity,
kidney disease, cancer, etc.  Why do most cats now routinely die in their
early teens at best, when they used to live so much longer?  Why?

If one believes that fresh, natural food is better for people than processed
food, then why treat animals any different?  I believe sick or
immunocompromised animals need more nutrition, not less.  They need the best
quality food possible, and I think that is the food they evolved to eat.   I
wish I could feed whole prey, but it's unaffordable.  On the other hand,
homemade raw is made with far better ingredients yet costs so much less than
commercial food - about 35 cents a day.  

Which do you trust more?  Millions of years of mother nature's success, or
the money-motivated pet food industry? 

Ok, getting off soapbox now.  :)
Kg


On Saturday, March 16, 2013, Maryam Ulomi  wrote:
> Hi Carrie,
> I am so sorry to hear about your kitties. And I am praying they get better
very soon.
> I had put a post up asking the group about raw food for FeLV cats but no
one responded or commented about using that for their cats.
> I have read that for FeLV cats it might be a hazard because their systems
cannot withstand any challenges from parasites.
> Also I have read that seafood is not recommended for FeLV cats so I do not
feed any seafood to mine.
> I am trying to find a holistic vet to start my FeLV cat on a special diet
but it's always best to be in contact with a vet when starting the home cook
diet or a raw diet.
> If the cats are sick l would take them to vet so they can be treated right
away, with FeLV early prevention is the best policy.
> Hope this helps, please send an update soon.
> Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 23:45, Carrie Rosenblatt  wrote:
>
> hi. I saw this online - and wondered what you found out about raw food for
FeLV cats. I had one at my apt for a night, and gave him homemade food,
which was made with raw meat, but no pieces of meat was in what I gave him,
just the grains and tuna and supplements, but I was wondering if the juice
or residue from the raw meat could have hurt him, as he is very sick and
getting worse.
> cr
>
> 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle

[Bonnie Hogue]

Condolences on the loss of this kitty.  They are all special friends.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Beth
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:46 PM
To: FeLV Talk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle

 

I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived at my
house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis the last few
months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday morning. During
his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him under to explore
further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his esophagus. They never woke
him back up. He looked & acted so healthy except for the stomatits. He is
very much missed. He was a silly, sweet, mischievous boy. & I loved him for
all of it!

 

 Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
  www.Furkids.org
 

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays & ferals

[Bonnie Hogue]

I would imagine TNR orgs have dealt with this type of thing.  Sure seems it
ought to be something to be appealed to the city council, or ?
Maybe someone can offer a suggestion.  Hope you can help change their minds.
Yeah, talk about picking on the helpless...
Good luck
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays & ferals

On 04-21, Marcia wrote:

> Hey guys (-: Marcia from Ks. Guess what the town that I live in is doing
> now?   They are actually ticketing people who are caught feeding cats
> outside of their house!  No kidding. This town is full of methheads 
> and this is what they focus on. So sad.

How awful. I can imagine how angry you are.. What jerks!!

Lorrie
 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays & ferals

[Bonnie Hogue]

I suppose it is an effort to reduce the feral population...but it seems
cruel and misguided to me.
B.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
MaiMaiPG
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays & ferals

Why can you feed birds and squirrels outside but not cats?  Or outside dogs?
On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

> I would imagine TNR orgs have dealt with this type of thing.  Sure 
> seems it ought to be something to be appealed to the city council, or 
> ?
> Maybe someone can offer a suggestion.  Hope you can help change their 
> minds.
> Yeah, talk about picking on the helpless...
> Good luck
> Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Lorrie
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:12 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feeding strays & ferals
>
> On 04-21, Marcia wrote:
>
>> Hey guys (-: Marcia from Ks. Guess what the town that I live in is 
>> doing
>> now?   They are actually ticketing people who are caught feeding cats
>> outside of their house!  No kidding. This town is full of methheads 
>> and this is what they focus on. So sad.
>
> How awful. I can imagine how angry you are.. What jerks!!
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Turkey Vulture OT

[Bonnie Hogue]

You know, that may have been the Vulture's way of saying, "thanks," like
when our kitties bring us their kill, which really is an honor.  It's just
that creatures' tastes and ours are different!

Nice of your friend to help such a special critter!

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:00 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Turkey Vulture OT

 

My friend, who is the director of a large feral cat advocacy organization
here was driving home one night from a meeting when she saw a vulture
fluttering by the side of the road, apparently hit by a car. She got out and
managed to get the injured bird into a cat carrier, then off she went to
Wildlife Rescue and Rehabilitation, southwest Texas's most famous wildlife
rescue organization. Once there, the bird was determined to have a broken
wing. Before my friend left the office though, the kindly vulture
regurgitated all over her in gratitude. She said it was the most horrendous
stink she had ever smelled. She was covered with whatever dead thing the
bird had eaten for supper. She made it home in record time and threw herself
into a power shower but she could recall the odor for days after. They call
buzzards and vultures in Texas "The Road Crew" because they clean up what
careless motorists create.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 


  _  


From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Turkey Vulture OT


Enjoyed hearing about your turkey vulture. Wow!
I used to do wildlife rehab and had two young red tailed hawks
who were brought to me when the tree their nest was in was cut down.
They ate an entire raw chicken every day!  My neighbor thought they
needed bird seed and brought me some :-)  She was old and meant well
I guess, but those hawks had no desire for bird seed!

Lorrie


On 04-21, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> Everyone in my area knows that if they find a sick or injured animal,
> bring it to Dorlis, the crazy cat lady.  I even rescued a juvenile turkey
> vulture last fall.  




___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

[Bonnie Hogue]

You've got it, Lance!  You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
prayers.
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember

Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.

Lance
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

[Bonnie Hogue]

Glad to hear she had a good night.  Good luck with everything at the vet today. 
 Best wishes & positive vibes to both of you!  We know how hard these times can 
be…

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

 

Thank you for thinking of Ember, Cheri and El. 

 

She seems to be doing okay today. I got her to eat last night by feeding Fancy 
Feast Classic Chicken Feast. In another post, Christiane had suggested this as 
being like chocolate cake to cats, and Ember agrees. Unfortunately, the 
ingredients aren't the best, but at this point, just keeping her eating and 
well-fed seems like the main thing to do.

 

She also likes Prescription Diet t/d, which she thinks is a treat. Before she 
tested positive, that's the only food she ate. I didn't know any better, but 
she was fine with it. 

 

On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Cheri Le  wrote:





Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!

💜CHERI


On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats  wrote:

Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
El
 

> From: lini...@fastmail.fm
> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
> 
> Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet 
> visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new 
> cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her 
> treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her 
> sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that 
> she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
> 
> 
> On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue  wrote:
> 
> > You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
> > prayers.
> > Bonnie
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Lance
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
> > 
> > Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
> > mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
> > than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
> > night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
> > uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
> > our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
> > 
> > Lance
> > ___
> > Felvtalk mailing list
> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> > 
> > 
> > ___
> > Felvtalk mailing list
> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> 
> 
> ___
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] a question....or two

[Bonnie Hogue]

Lance

Glad to hear your little Ember is doing okay!  I know she was having a hard
time last week.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two

 

It's always a good idea to discuss any symptoms with Raja's vet. They may
want to refer you to a veterinary ophthalmologist or other specialist just
to confirm that nothing else is going on.

 

On May 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:





Thank you so much for the quick answer, Lance. It's wonderful to have

that worry alleviated so soon.

 

I will try those foods, and the web site. I've seen Tiki Cat, and it does

look delicious!

 

Thanks again-Chris C.

 

 

From: Lance   

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two

 

My FeLV+ girl has anisocoria (uneven pupils). We noticed that one had
changed quite a bit about four years ago. I've never read anything about it
indicating the progress of the disease.  

 

I highly recommend Tiki Cat's two chicken formulas. Ember is addicted. It's
definitely not cheap, but it seems to be high quality food. It's probably
easier to find Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast, which was recommended to
me here by Christiane. The ingredients might not be great, but it's very
appealing to them.

 

This site has some good ideas:

 

http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm

 

On May 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:





I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter,

so as I said in my intro, I am new at this.

 

I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is

not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a

random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage

she is in, or anything else.

 

Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I've tried different

dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was

small to begin with.

 

Thanks so much!

Chris C.

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 

 

  _  

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

 

___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] New to Feline Leukemia

[Bonnie Hogue]

It's a long story, but I'll shorten it...
My mom has a "heart cat" named Lucky.  She's disabled and no longer living at 
home.  Her sister was caring for Lucky, but herself is unwell and struggling.  
I went over to feed the cats during her hospitalization and Lucky did not look 
good.  I took him to the vet: bad fleas, possible infected eye and nose, and 
tested "weak positive" for feline leukemia.  This makes my plan of integrating 
him into my 3-cat household a real challenge.  The vet said I could get my 
three cats vaccinated "providing 80% protection"... Meanwhile, Lucky is 
sequestered in the spare bedroom, taking antibiotics (what a good cat!) and 
healing.  I'm trying to figure out how to make this work, longer term.
Ideas???
Thank you!
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org