Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)

2011-12-10 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 10.12.11 07:52, schrieb Tuomas Kuosmanen: Wouldn't it be useful to somehow flag the airport as closed/restricted/whatever in the data, so that nav displays and gps/fms units could show a different airfield symbol if desired for closed airports? Does the data format support this? There is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)

2011-12-10 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 11.12.11 01:10, schrieb James J. Brennan: Sure they are marked in some charts as they might be useful in an emergency, but essentially they are not much different from a large parking lot or a wide road. One came in pretty handy a few years ago when a guy ran out of gas. Something

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)

2011-12-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 08.12.11 13:36, schrieb HB-GRAL: Hi all Hi again About marking closed airports in apt.dat: - marking the name with [X] might be closer to charts I guess and most airports marked as closed in apt.dat comes with the x - removing x and marking with (closed) at end of name is possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)

2011-12-08 Thread HB-GRAL
.) Origin in apt.dat is a) in apt.dat, but my script eats it up. So better no change for this case ? Cheers, Yves Am 08.12.11 13:36, schrieb HB-GRAL: Hi all I am recently trying to update apt.dat airport names (in all flightgear relevant data versions, means original xplane 8.10/8.50

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fw: CMake, tomorrow (Sunday 23rd)

2011-12-01 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Fatima Just found something with your output, just in case you still get the same errors with the ogr plugin. http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?t=2953view=previous Cheers, Yves Am 01.12.11 15:53, schrieb Iervolino Fatima: Hi Thorsten, I've rebuilt all successfully. But I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fw: CMake, tomorrow (Sunday 23rd)

2011-11-30 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 30.11.11 21:13, schrieb ThorstenB: Am 30.11.2011 15:40, schrieb Iervolino Fatima: I get systematically the same error: 1Compilation en cours... 1ReaderWriterOGR.cpp 1..\..\..\..\src\osgPlugins\ogr\ReaderWriterOGR.cpp(41) : error C2146: erreur de syntaxe : absence de ';' avant

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain textures

2011-11-22 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Adrian I think quality textures like yours goes directly to the main repo ? On the other hand I heared there is probably central scenery repo coming up (a separate repository and/or database). Maybe also for developing textures and to store origins or base material ? Green as I am I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain textures

2011-11-22 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 22.11.11 15:06, schrieb Adrian Musceac: Hi Yves, The issue here is that some of these textures are really large, and thus have the potential to limit performance for users with lower-end machines. Thus, I'm interested in guidelines/policies regarding texturing the terrain, what sizes are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain textures

2011-11-22 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 22.11.11 20:44, schrieb Adrian Musceac: The problem with small textures is that patterns on them become very visible at high altitudes. On the other hand, good textures with no visible repeating features are quite hard to obtain. Adrian, you might have a look what the crop shader does

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain textures

2011-11-22 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 22.11.11 20:50, schrieb Emilian Huminiuc: - on-disk size depends on texture size, amount of colour variation in the texture and compression method. (a 4096x4096px texture can be as big as 10 to 30 MB if compressed as png, or ~20MB if compressed as dxt5 .dds, or ~10MB if compressed as dxt1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shaders vs. frame rate;

2011-11-21 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 20.11.11 12:55, schrieb Anders Gidenstam: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, ThorstenB wrote: Since some effects may be aircraft specific it might be useful to make the advanced dialog dynamic - one way would be to add a checkbox for each *-effect property found in /sim/rendering/shaders/ .

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shader properties and dialog

2011-11-21 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Gijs I would be very happy with a reflect checkbox/property once. Just to remember issue #295 (stalled, why?), this one is still broken with my ati on osx, osg trunk. It is not broken at all, but it still produce this renderbin draw errors filling my fgfs log to a huge file running

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shader properties and dialog

2011-11-21 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 21.11.11 22:08, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:55:34 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote in message 4eca5856.6060...@sablonier.ch: Hi Gijs I would be very happy with a reflect checkbox/property once. Just to remember issue #295 (stalled, why?), this one is still broken with my ati on osx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New performance statistics GUI

2011-11-19 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Thorsten Thank you very much. Is it also possible to interpret OpenGL/GPU load somehow this way ? Cheers, Yves Am 19.11.11 17:22, schrieb ThorstenB: I have added a new subsystem and dialog to monitor FG performance. It's replacing/improving the original code which was only capable of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New performance statistics GUI

2011-11-19 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 19.11.11 21:43, schrieb James Turner: On 19 Nov 2011, at 19:54, HB-GRAL wrote: Thank you very much. Is it also possible to interpret OpenGL/GPU load somehow this way ? OSG already has this - exposed via the Debug menu in FG. (Well, not in much detail about the GPU - normally that kind

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shaders vs. frame rate; Was: Fixing fgfs-construct crashes

2011-11-19 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 16.11.11 10:58, schrieb Martin Spott: I was annoyed by the fact that the simple act of just enabling Material shaders in the Rendering options has a noticeable effect on the rendering performance without_any_ of the other features in the entire dialogue box enabled. We count 33 vertex

[Flightgear-devel] fgcom positions.txt

2011-11-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I updated positions.txt (fgcom data) with recent 8.10 apt.dat data for use with fgcom. And I also prepared the same for 8.50 data for the future. For testing you can replace this file with current positions.txt shipped with fgcom. It contains all frequencies available in table atcfreq

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Frequencies, fgcom

2011-11-14 Thread HB-GRAL
Oh, just noticed that this is an issue of fgx and fgfs process start parameter, and absolutely not fgfs related, sorry for the noise. Cheers, Yves Am 14.11.11 01:02, schrieb HB-GRAL: Hi all I bundled a new FGx launcher today for OSX with current trunk and OSG 3.1.0, and after some tests I

[Flightgear-devel] Frequencies, fgcom

2011-11-13 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I bundled a new FGx launcher today for OSX with current trunk and OSG 3.1.0, and after some tests I noticed that fgcom does not get any input anymore from fgfs. When I start fgcom manually with i.e. -f910.0 I do not have any problem, but from fgfs it gets only 0. freqs runnning.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft rating now visible in fgrun

2011-11-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 12.11.11 11:05, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: See : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgrun-rating-system.png And what about this one ? http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgrun-rating-system-star-en.png -Fred --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fixpoints navaids

2011-11-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 10.11.11 12:14, schrieb HB-GRAL: Assuming the fix table should contain VFR waypoints mainly, another question might be if the fix table can be filtered (only for the map) into waypoints containing only VPXYZ-Point-Naming and others containing numbers ? Is this a bad idea (for the map

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft rating now visible in fgrun

2011-11-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 12.11.11 19:35, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: Hi Yves, Am 12.11.11 11:05, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: See : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgrun-rating-system.png And what about this one ? http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgrun-rating-system-star-en.png Hi Fred Looking to the bars and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft rating now visible in fgrun

2011-11-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 12.11.11 20:00, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: Am 12.11.11 19:35, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: Hi Yves, Am 12.11.11 11:05, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: See : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgrun-rating-system.png And what about this one ?

[Flightgear-devel] KSFO default scenery

2011-11-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Scenery I just noticed that this small scenery bugs at KSFO never have been fixed since many years now (or did I miss something?). When you show me how I can help to fix this, I will really send a merge request, and I guess this is not critical ! But should be solved once ;-) osgDB ac3d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft rating now visible in fgrun

2011-11-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 13.11.11 00:12, schrieb Curtis Olson: So now it would be interesting if fgrun could be used by end users to rate the aircraft in the different categories and then fgrun would pull the ratings from some server that tracks all this. :-) Curt. Oh yes, I will immediately set up a new

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fixpoints navaids

2011-11-10 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 10.11.11 09:50, schrieb James Turner: On 10 Nov 2011, at 07:36, HB-GRAL wrote: - Approach Fix - Intermediate Fix - Final Fix - MAPT - Step down - Fly-by - Fly-over - Co-located - Speed limit (?) Is there any possibility to classify the bare 8.50 fix database somehow, i.e. by name

[Flightgear-devel] Fixpoints navaids

2011-11-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I tried to add 8.50 .dat version fixes to my map (map.fgx.ch) yesterday. I see that the database contains the name of the fix/waypoint and coordinates and no further cols. Wouldn’t some classification be useful, i.e. - Approach Fix - Intermediate Fix - Final Fix - MAPT - Step down -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future structure of fgdata

2011-11-07 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 07.11.11 11:12, schrieb Anders Gidenstam: On Sun, 6 Nov 2011, HB-GRAL wrote: But I didn?t spoke out what Gary, Jacob and Anders write here. This is exactly what I meant and it was no vote against every improvement of the old shaders where I contributed too. Me and myself would be very

[Flightgear-devel] Textures sizes, DDS

2011-11-06 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I just noticed today that the textures folder in scenery growed from 50 MB to ~200 MB. But I don’t see that many new textures ? I read once here that the benefit from getting DDS is also we get smaller file sizes for the textures. But now I see textures like crop (and cropA) DDS files

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Textures sizes, DDS

2011-11-06 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 06.11.11 13:50, schrieb Heiko Schulz: Quality compared with other compressed texture-formats like .png is btw. much higher. Hi Heiko What I am thinking about at the moment is: Where are the GPL origins of the new textures ? In the textures folder too ? And btw. there have been only 4

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Textures sizes, DDS

2011-11-06 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 06.11.11 15:22, schrieb Jacob Burbach: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:10 AM, HB-GRALflightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Just a technical question: I know it is not a big deal to convert new textures to .dds format, but when I want to start to work on textures should I convert back to another format

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Textures sizes, DDS

2011-11-06 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 06.11.11 16:32, schrieb Heiko Schulz: And btw. there have been only 4 or 5 replacements/additions for covers ... Thanks, I will do so. And where do I find the lossless origins now in the repo ? Do the origins co-exist in the repo, as png, or as GIMP files ? Ouch!! Ouch ? 1.) the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Textures sizes, DDS

2011-11-06 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 06.11.11 17:56, schrieb Heiko Schulz: Hello, Ouch ? This was regarding about your statement about the 4-5replacements/additionals and maybe I'm wrong, but I think I can read something between your lines. You are not happy with the conversion to .dds-files, right, though you didn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cmake osx

2011-11-05 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 05.11.11 03:27, schrieb Roland Häder: On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 01:31 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote: Hi James I successfully built simgear/flightgear today with cmake 2.8.4 and OSX 10.6.8. There have been some small changes I added to CMakeLists for sg/fg: SET(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS -arch i386) and SET

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cmake osx

2011-11-05 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 05.11.11 17:13, schrieb James Turner: On 5 Nov 2011, at 11:25, HB-GRAL wrote: Maybe how to set this flags for OSX should go to the readme once. I think some OSX users will end up with linking errors because simgear compiles well with x86_64, but then you run into a lot of problems trying

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cmake osx

2011-11-05 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 05.11.11 20:25, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 05.11.11 17:13, schrieb James Turner: On 5 Nov 2011, at 11:25, HB-GRAL wrote: Maybe how to set this flags for OSX should go to the readme once. I think some OSX users will end up with linking errors because simgear compiles well with x86_64

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cmake osx

2011-11-05 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 05.11.11 20:46, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 05.11.11 20:25, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 05.11.11 17:13, schrieb James Turner: On 5 Nov 2011, at 11:25, HB-GRAL wrote: Maybe how to set this flags for OSX should go to the readme once. I think some OSX users will end up with linking errors because simgear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration

2011-11-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 04.11.11 08:35, schrieb Tuomas Kuosmanen: Hey folks.. How about using something like maps.cloudmade.com to create a custom styled openstreetmap tileset for a moving map? Alternatively a mapnik style could be created. There was a style for aviation paper chart in progress in openstreetmap

Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration

2011-11-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 03.11.11 20:46, schrieb Alan Teeder: I have now copied everything to https://gitorious.org/fg-ajt, which should speed things up. Alan Hi Alan Thanks for uploading this tiles to gitorious. Can you say something about the box (in coords) this tiles cover exactly ? I am going to run

Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration

2011-11-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 04.11.11 10:06, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 03.11.11 20:46, schrieb Alan Teeder: I have now copied everything to https://gitorious.org/fg-ajt, which should speed things up. Alan Hi Alan Thanks for uploading this tiles to gitorious. Can you say something about the box (in coords) this tiles

[Flightgear-devel] cmake osx

2011-11-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi James I successfully built simgear/flightgear today with cmake 2.8.4 and OSX 10.6.8. There have been some small changes I added to CMakeLists for sg/fg: SET(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS -arch i386) and SET(CMAKE_C_FLAGS -arch i386). I am sure there is a better way to set this flags with cmake. Many

[Flightgear-devel] Contest, best FG addition 2011

2011-11-03 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I see so many good and nice additions for FlightGear, why not follow former polls I’ve seen here and organize a small award in december, somthing like best add-on development for FlightGear ? Possibility to give two awards, one from a public i.e. as a vote in the forum and another as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Serving maps from internet;

2011-10-31 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi maybe it is also worth to have a look to (local) capabilities of - mapnik2 - kde marble Cheers, Yves Am 31.10.11 06:35, schrieb Alex Perry: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Martin Spottmartin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Alex Perry wrote: [...] What is preventing us from converting the whole

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Serving maps from internet; Was: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 66, Issue 23

2011-10-31 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 30.10.11 19:42, schrieb Geoff McLane: FORMAT=image/jpegSRS=EPSG:4326 Hi Geoff Just one little thing here, in case someone is working on this: I suggest not to use image/jpeg for rendering, I guess it is better to use image/png for quality maps. Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 27.10.11 10:24, schrieb James Turner: 'we' (the infamous FlightGear we) should probably write a wiki page of aircraft-contributor-etiquette, so we have grounds to revoke people's access if they break the rules. Though just about the only rules I'm aware of : keep it GPL;

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-25 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 25.10.11 19:09, schrieb syd adams: I dont personally see any advantage myself, I'd have to vote no.Sorry Yves. -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-24 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Core (and the rest of the entire organism of course) Why not splitting up the Aircraft folder into hangars as collection of aircrafts as plug-ins, collection of big teams or small but heavy industries ? --- fgdata | Aircraft || |

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New git mirror

2011-10-23 Thread HB-GRAL
mirror and it is fetched every 30 mins. or so). Cheers, Yves Am 23.10.11 00:24, schrieb HB-GRAL: Hi all I just set up a mirror of your (not ours, I will get it) gitorious repos with git/gitolite/cgit. It is easy to explore the repositories with cgit, just have a look. There is no use

[Flightgear-devel] New git mirror

2011-10-22 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I just set up a mirror of your (not ours, I will get it) gitorious repos with git/gitolite/cgit. It is easy to explore the repositories with cgit, just have a look. There is no use for this, but it is fun (at least for me). http://git.fgx.ch/ Cheers, Yves

[Flightgear-devel] Alaska 2arc elevation data USGSDEM

2011-10-16 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Scenery Here I provide converted and clipped Alaska elevation data (2arc seconds) from NED USGS, for testing and developing purposes. The original data is distributed from NED in ArcGIS format, I needed to convert to USGSDEM format to create a new relief for my map. Maybe this will be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery Creation/TerraGear problems

2011-10-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.10.11 10:53, schrieb Martin Spott: I think the only solution is to make GPC obsolete - either by replacing GPC by something different but functional equivalent or simply (TM ;-) by avoiding any polygon clipping in 'fgfs-construct' overall. Martin. Hi Martin Are there any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery Creation/TerraGear problems

2011-10-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi James Thank you very much (and Martin of course) for diving into. I am just curious how you go to replace GPC. Cheers, Yves Am 15.10.11 17:20, schrieb James Turner: On 15 Oct 2011, at 15:22, HB-GRAL wrote: I think the only solution is to make GPC obsolete - either by replacing GPC

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2011-10-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.10.11 22:41, schrieb Christopher Baines: I know of another project who's main git repository contains a script, that manages the other git repositories, this allows them to split the gigs of data they have in to more sensible chunks, without having to pull every repository individually.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery Creation/TerraGear problems

2011-10-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 16.10.11 00:30, schrieb Martin Spott: HB-GRAL wrote: Am 15.10.11 10:53, schrieb Martin Spott: I think the only solution is to make GPC obsolete - either by replacing GPC by something different but functional equivalent or simply (TM ;-) by avoiding any polygon clipping in 'fgfs-construct

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear and 2 Arc Second elevation data

2011-10-07 Thread HB-GRAL
the dem's into TerraGear tile sizes. There are different terrain formats so you might need to adapt the code to read a different format as well. This part sounds like it should be pretty straightforward if you have clear docs for the input format. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, HB-GRAL wrote

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear and 2 Arc Second elevation data

2011-10-07 Thread HB-GRAL
When someone wants to run experiments with this data, you can find some test data in .dem format here: http://maptest.fgx.ch/public/2arc-alaska-dem/n70w140.zip Thanks a lot, Yves Am 07.10.11 12:07, schrieb HB-GRAL: I am asking because I am currently working on Alaska elevation data

[Flightgear-devel] Terragear and 2 Arc Second elevation data

2011-10-06 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all Can terragear handle 2 arc second elevation data ? I read only about 1 arc and 3 arc data for the terragear toolchain. Cheers, Yves -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A collection of issues

2011-10-06 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 06.10.11 11:33, schrieb Vivian Meazza: We already adjust the greyness of the sea to reflect the overcast value. (It would also be nice if the visible weather in Global matched the description a bit better: we make the sea grey when it's overcast, but the sky is still mostly blue). This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mapping Airspace

2011-09-29 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 21.09.11 07:59, schrieb Alex Perry: 12. ... who is missing from the list? I just decided to start with russian airspace, because of this one here: http://premier.gov.ru/eng/events/news/9704/ Cheers, Yves -- All

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fairly recent change in sun/view position code?

2011-09-26 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 25.09.11 09:36, schrieb Erik Hofman: On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 15:29 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: It would be nice if Tim Moore could also fix the fog/skydome misalignment he introduced. It's a bit harsh as the previous code was also buggy It wasn't meant to be harsh but the old code

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mapping Airspace

2011-09-21 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 21.09.11 21:43, schrieb John Denker: 3) I suspect that doing reprojections on the the fly only works for vector data. I tried it with raster data, expecting to see either a resulting image or an error message, but saw neither. Is there something I'm missing? It works also for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mapping Airspace

2011-09-21 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 21.09.11 21:43, schrieb John Denker: 4) When defining a colormap, there does not appear to be any way of controlling transparency on a level-by-level basis. Am I overlooking something, or is this an actual limitation? Maybe I miss something but you can control transparency for

[Flightgear-devel] Alaska mapping/scenery improvements

2011-09-19 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi there Is there anyone out doing some mapping/scenery improvements on Alaska ? I decided to make Alaska as a center for testing some new sources and experimental scenery improvements. Does anyone know about a FlightGear Alaska initiative in the past ? Beside of contribution to scenery or map

[Flightgear-devel] Mapping Airspace

2011-09-19 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all To improve our map resources with further data I started an experiment with free available airspace data. Actually this is far from being a good map and finished design, it is just a start to implement (unofficial!) airspace information: http://maptest.fgx.ch/navaid.html I need

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Openstreetmap v. G**gl

2011-09-16 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 16.09.11 07:28, schrieb J. Holden: For the USA, there is an interesting website chronicling some of these airports: http://www.airfields-freeman.com/ Cheers John Hi John I provide a ESRI Shapefile on my server of the airports of ourairports.com database

[Flightgear-devel] NDBs apt.dat ourairports

2011-09-16 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Here you can download two ESRI shapefiles where I provide some differences between NDBs in xplane data (8.50) and ourairports.com data. NDBs in xplane data, but not in ourairports (585 NDBs): http://maptest.fgx.ch/data/ndbmissingourairports.zip NDBs in ourairports data, but not in xplane

[Flightgear-devel] Some Helipads

2011-09-16 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Here you find a ESRI Shapefile with ~3700 helipads missing* in 8.50 xplane data (and maybe in current fg data), located mainly in United States: http://maptest.fgx.ch/data/helipad.zip Maybe someone finds this useful. Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Openstreetmap vs. G**gl

2011-09-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 15.09.11 18:12, schrieb Martin Spott: HB-GRAL wrote: I see now also some differences between OSM and our apt.dat [...] Note that OSM might be aiming at a different target, they're not necessarily building a database which meets the specific requirements in (simulated) aviation. Cheers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-14 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 14.09.11 08:58, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: LaTeX is not a word processor, it is a professional typesetting tool. I see all the reasons to keep the docs in LaTex (like keeping the process efficient at the moment), but this sentence here about professional tools is probably not that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Openstreetmap vs. G**gl

2011-09-14 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 12.09.11 09:56, schrieb Alan Teeder: Google maps are notoriously incorrect on co-ordinates. Even their own road map overlay does not align perfectly with the scenery. You can check the accuracy yourself if you have a GPS receiver and visit a set of easily identifiable points like road

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-13 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 13.09.11 10:46, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: LaTeX is not a word processor, it is a professional typesetting tool. I see all the reasons to keep the docs in LaTex (like keeping the process efficient at the moment), but this sentence here about professional tools is probably not that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Openstreetmap vs. G**gl

2011-09-13 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 11.09.11 03:20, schrieb Curtis Olson: Asking a cartographer where is it? is just about as difficult a question as asking an astronomer what time is it? Curt. Hi Curt These are very good questions. I will ask some cartographers and astronomers. Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Openstreetmap vs. G**gl

2011-09-13 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 12.09.11 00:39, schrieb Martin Spott: HB-GRAL wrote: Exactly, that's a default in Robin's collection. Hi Martin Yes, sorry, you answered me this one some months before and I just forgot about. It is part of the collection and this probably makes sense. Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New experimental mapserver

2011-09-10 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 09.09.11 22:56, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: I hope you all remember that there is already a 8.50 parser inside fg and code to display airports in the MFD (with Bezier curves). Regards, -Fred Does this parser handle both types, 8.10 and 8.50 format ? As I understand 8.50 is only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New experimental mapserver

2011-09-10 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 10.09.11 14:47, schrieb Christian Schmitt: Curtis Olson wrote: I won't say this is perfect in all areas ... some areas have stray data points or noise in the terrain data that confuses things. There's always a chance of a mismatch between airport location terrain location so that we are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New experimental mapserver

2011-09-10 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 10.09.11 21:56, schrieb Viktor Radnai: Hi all, If you are looking for airports with extreme runway slope for testing, may I suggest Lukla, Nepal (VNLK). If that one comes out looking right, I'd say you've got the code sorted :) Cheers, Vik Lukla is just boring ;-) Other suggestions ?

[Flightgear-devel] Openstreetmap vs. G**gl

2011-09-10 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all Unfortunately I just run into another problem with my map. This is what I see on my currently generated map using 8.10 taxiway data and 8.50 runway data (this is no reference and a crude mixup of course, I apologize in adnvance): http://maptest.fgx.ch/screens/mapping.png But now, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New experimental mapserver

2011-09-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 24.08.11 17:51, schrieb Gijs de Rooy: Btw, is the taxiway layer not yet implemented, or is that another broken thing? The taxiways were broken because I first needed a way to handle the current 810 taxiway patchwork shapetry ...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New experimental mapserver

2011-09-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 09.09.11 19:33, schrieb Curtis Olson: In addition, there is a fairly sophisticated (and I think cool) step where we fit a natural curved surface across the airport elevation and used the curved surface instead of raw SRTM points. This eliminates the noise in the raw data and gives the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The future of FlightGear's support programs

2011-09-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 04.09.11 08:05, schrieb Durk Talsma: Hi All, In the past, we've seen a large number of projects that were initiated for FlightGear; Atlas, fgrun, the terragear toolchain, and taxidraw. Many of these program have undergone substantial development, many contributors have come and gone,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The future of FlightGear's support programs

2011-09-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 04.09.11 15:01, schrieb Gijs de Rooy: Why not use Xplane's WED? Appears to be open-source (didn't check the license though) and works with the 850 format... Hi Gijs I use QGis because with this one I edit current shape database directly, without any conversion of anything. And most of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The future of FlightGear's support programs

2011-09-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 04.09.11 16:01, schrieb Christian Schmitt: HB-GRAL wrote: Personally I don’t know if there is a roadmap for taxidraw anymore. You can edit airport data with tools like Qgis directly and with much more comfort. It’s sad, but I think we dont need it anymore. Well, you can import apt.dat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The future of FlightGear's support programs

2011-09-04 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 04.09.11 17:11, schrieb Geoff McLane: On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 15:01 +0200, Gijs de Rooy wrote: [snip] Brings me to another question, are we allowed to use Robin's latest apt.dat, once we can handle the new format? Looks like that day isn't too far away anymore

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Links for new FlightGear pilots

2011-09-01 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 01.09.11 10:24, schrieb Vivian Meazza: Spelling the title correctly in the English version would be a huge improvement. Vivian Hi Jörg I hope Vivians English style is not the only feedback you get about your work here. Your contribution is welcome, at lest for me, and maybe others can

[Flightgear-devel] New experimental mapserver

2011-08-24 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I created a new experimental mapnik mapserver. It is based on mapnik/ogcserver/tilecache/postgis/postgres. For testing purposes I pushed 850 aeronautical data from Robin Peel into the database and render some example queries. The database knows the whole world, the example is

[Flightgear-devel] Navigation data, current data cycle distributed

2011-08-12 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Navs I see with release/2.4.0 of fgdata there comes fix.dat, nav.dat and awy.dat and others from a data cycle 2009.12 by Robin Peel. Do we update this files to the current available data cycle, with the release ? Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.4.0: on short final

2011-08-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 09.08.11 09:59, schrieb TDO_Brandano -: Well, if you know how to write a simple program you could try accessing and setting the properties through the telnet protocol with a wrapper application, and communicate with that one through the serial port. As far as I know the telnet protocol

[Flightgear-devel] FGx 2.4.0b4 (beta) for OSX

2011-08-08 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all I announced a new beta release for testing in the forum today. This OSX testing version comes with built-in OSG 3.0.1 and a preview of current sg/fg/fgdata branch release/2.4.0. Windows and Debian/other version will follow soon (meantime you can pull master tag 2.4.0b4 and build FGx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-29 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 29.07.11 12:15, schrieb Durk Talsma: Hi, On 29 Jul 2011, at 02:54, HB-GRAL wrote: Hi Geos Can someone explain me why we use lat=N37 42.807 lon=W122 12.963 in parking.xml and groundnet.xml This is mainly for historic reasons. I started out using an example ground

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-29 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 29.07.11 15:18, schrieb HB-GRAL: Am 29.07.11 12:15, schrieb Durk Talsma: Hi, On 29 Jul 2011, at 02:54, HB-GRAL wrote: Hi Geos Can someone explain me why we use lat=N37 42.807 lon=W122 12.963 in parking.xml and groundnet.xml This is mainly for historic reasons. I

[Flightgear-devel] Lat Lon vs. Deg Min

2011-07-28 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Geos Can someone explain me why we use lat=N37 42.807 lon=W122 12.963 in parking.xml and groundnet.xml and not lat/lon formats like we use it for runways and it is used in apt.dat and other data files ? Thanks, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shaders and ATI Radeon HD 4670

2011-06-25 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 25.06.11 17:59, schrieb Jari Häkkinen: Otherworldcomputing.com has two options; ATI Radeon HD 5670/512MB (USD180) and ATI Radeon HD 5750/1GB (USD400). 400 is a lot, will the cheaper 512MB card make a noticeable difference? And, opening an iMac isn't for the faint-hearted. Jari Hi Jari

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-06-24 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 24.06.11 12:55, schrieb Erik Hofman: On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 10:48 +, TDO_Brandano - wrote: Ok, before I get flamed to a crisp, let me explain what is my reasoning behind this. Right now the fgdata repository is about 9 GB. It has been proposed before and I believe it's the way to go.

[Flightgear-devel] Shaders: Issue 294 not accepted?

2011-06-23 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all For upcoming debugging weeks: Please note that issue #294 and #335 are still valid here with OSX 10.6, ATI 5750, OSG2.9.7. I still get Warning: detected OpenGL error 'invalid operation' at after RenderBin::draw(..) with every plane (i.e. 737-100) where reflect shaders are active. I

[Flightgear-devel] ISSUE 295: Re: Shaders: Issue 294 not accepted?

2011-06-23 Thread HB-GRAL
Arghh, yes, I am talking about issue #295 and not #294, sorry for that. -Yves Am 23.06.11 14:17, schrieb HB-GRAL: Hi all For upcoming debugging weeks: Please note that issue #294 and #335 are still valid here with OSX 10.6, ATI 5750, OSG2.9.7. I still get Warning: detected OpenGL error

[Flightgear-devel] FGx for Win/Debian/OSX now

2011-06-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all On http:// gitorious.org/fgx I tagged now a FGx version 2.3.0pre as a preview which (should) work for Debian, Windows and OSX. FGx is a small FlightGear-qt-gui-launcher project. For OSX it is a bit more (because it is a app bundle with built-in OSG libs and all FlightGear binaries).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airport Textures (Again)

2011-06-13 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 13.06.11 19:36, schrieb Gene Buckle: I've got this sneaking suspicion that 90% of the problems here are caused by two people, separated by a common language translating engine. :) g. Hm, I guess you can say 100 %, at least on my side. Just found to buckle sideways in a tranlating

Re: [Flightgear-devel] use-custom-scenery-data

2011-06-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 09.06.11 11:41, schrieb Durk Talsma: Hi Alex, On 09 Jun 2011, at 11:21, Alex B. wrote: No. 1) Durk wrote[1]: [...]and the files that are still called parking are the ones that I still need to rename / improve / verify. There are still files called parking in the base package. Maybe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pro Flight Simulator

2011-06-08 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 08.06.11 07:43, schrieb Michael Sgier: why not simply change the fgfs licence once and for all? Android is not all GPL anymore...we could do the very same.- Why not throwing all the sources to trash and tell people the project does not exist anymore ? :-) No licence change has to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs log files with qt process

2011-06-07 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 05.06.11 23:37, schrieb HB-GRAL: Hi all I am trying to to write fgfs stderr output to a file. This is no problem when I use redirection like logifle.log in a shell of course, but - unfortunately - this can not be passed as argument with qt by startDetached process, which I use with fgx

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