Re: Crossbuilding 4-stable release on 5.x: perl missing

2004-06-08 Thread Ruben de Groot
Following up on myself to get an answer into the archives... I finally managed to finish the release build by adding the LOCAL_SCRIPT variable. This script, run inside the chrooted environment, does the following 3 things: - create a working /etc/resolv.conf - pkg_add -r perl - mount devfs (anot

pflogsumm and postfix2 logs

2004-06-08 Thread dave
Hello, I've got pflogsumm running to analyze and summarize postfix logs. In the report it is reporting zero for all activities, even though i've sent mail during the period of the check. Any ideas? Thanks. Dave. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list htt

ideal ipfw traffic shaping rules for small DSL net

2004-06-08 Thread Kenji M
Hello network gurus, I'm looking for a good baseline ipfw shaping policy configuration for people who are using small upstream DSL bandwidth. I have 3Mbit downstream and 768K upstream and I use a ipf for natting and ipfw with dummynet to do traffic shaping. Considering a 750KB upstream pipe, wh

java not running .jar files without absolute path. (take II)

2004-06-08 Thread epilogue
anyone have thoughts on the below? thanks. -- Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 13:20:35 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: java not running .jar files without absolute path. hey all, > which java /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/bin/java > java -jar Jreepad-1

skippy-0.5.0 under fluxbox-devel-0.9.9 [take II]

2004-06-08 Thread epilogue
for those of you running many windows under X, skippy might be of interest to you. check it out. if you manage to get it working and think you know what i'm doing wrong, please let me know. :)thanks. Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 17:51:55 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

freddbsd (Now what)

2004-06-08 Thread LW Ellis
First Thanx to all for the book / website suggestions I have installed FreeBSD. I have two questions, I am a complete newby to unix. 1) I installed KDE lite package that came with the CD I downloaded. Now what? Where is it? What is my next step? 2) How do I edit my 10/100 card settings, I'm not

apcupsd port not starting

2004-06-08 Thread dave
Hello, I've got the latest apcupsd port installed on my 5.2.1 machine. I've got an APC xs1500va UPS which is supported. I'm going by the apcupsd user's guide and have set both UPSTYPE and UPSCABLE to usb however when i start apcupsd i keep getting the message: "apcupsd driver type usb not found

Re: Printing to a network photosmart printer

2004-06-08 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 06/08/04 05:46 PM, Warren Block sat at the `puter and typed: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > >> See /usr/ports/print/hpijs. > > > > This certainly claims to work. I'm not understanding something > > though. I'm trying to set it up through /etc/printcap as described, > > but I s

Re: freebsd- Newby question

2004-06-08 Thread Reed L. O'Brien
I am trying to learn unix. I need a recommendation for a good beginers book (eg: Unix for dummies) AbsoluteBSD by MICHAEL LUCAS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

RE: does NATd _prevent_ use of stateful ipfw rules w/ keep-state?

2004-06-08 Thread JJB
Thanks for your example. I have finally had time to study it and I see the flaw in it. The example works fine for creating the entry in the dynamic table for setup of keep-state inbound and outbound session start requests. It even handles inbound packets that are part of an established session con

Re: freebsd- Newby question

2004-06-08 Thread Jay Moore
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 04:27 pm, LW Ellis wrote: > I am trying to learn unix. I need a recommendation for a good beginers book > (eg: Unix for dummies) I like Sobell's book, "A Practical Guide to the Unix System" Jay ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Building Perl with shared lib libperl

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
Trying to install a procedural language in PostgreSQL 7.4.2, pl/perl, but it complains that my 'libperl is not a shared library' and that I may need to rebuild my Perl. I am using Perl 5.6.1, is there a way to set this option when using the port /usr/ports/lang/perl5? -- Robert _

Re: Top Consistency

2004-06-08 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 08), Doug Hardie said: > I am running FreeBSD 4.6 and top does not show consistent data (at > least in my understanding). The cpu states line shows the percent of > time in user state. I would expect the percent processor used by all > the active processes to add up to so

Re: Anti-Spam app for sendmail

2004-06-08 Thread Fernando Gleiser
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Thomas Farrell wrote: > cpan mods needed. I am using mailmonitor & sophos sweep works great I can > block files or file extentions types, block subject content, quarantine > infected attachments, attempt to clean them. You can go to sophos.com and > fill out evalutaions for

Re: Improper shutdown of system / Fragmentation Problems / Boot logs

2004-06-08 Thread Thomas Farrell
Sometimes the power goes out and my machine shuts off . when I power it backup it fails at check root file system. and drops me into a shell I run fsck /dev/da0s1a and answer yes to fixing of fragmented inodes. figure out what drive/partition root is mounted of by typing df and then run fsck o

Re: Anti-Spam app for sendmail

2004-06-08 Thread Thomas Farrell
Yes Mailscanner is good but you may have to jump through hoops to get it to work with BSD . No matter what OS you will still need to install a bunch of perl modules for mailscanner & spamassasin. If thats ok with you then they are pretty good. First your going to need a licensed version of sometyp

Top Consistency

2004-06-08 Thread Doug Hardie
I am running FreeBSD 4.6 and top does not show consistent data (at least in my understanding). The cpu states line shows the percent of time in user state. I would expect the percent processor used by all the active processes to add up to something close to that. (single processor machine).

Problem with Xfree86 resolution

2004-06-08 Thread Dragoncrest
Not sure if this is something I did, or it's a limit of the driver or the card. But I have a Nvidia FX 5200 I'm running and I tried bumping it to 1400x1050 resolution with no luck. Same with 1600x1200. It seems stuck at 1280x1024 resolution and I can't get it to go any higher. Do I need to

Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades

2004-06-08 Thread Stephen Liu
HI Luke, Thanks for your advice. > > Is there a way updating all installed ports > > automatically wheneven the server/workstation is > > booted and connected to Internet, similar to ntp > > synchronizing the clock. > > > in theory it should be possible to write a script > that runs portupgrade

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Storey
I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet, but one way to significantly reduce power consumption is to downclock the processor. Yes, that reduces performance, but chances are you won't even notice it unless you're running the server under a heavy load. You said your network consists of two machines

Re: Improper shutdown of system / Fragmentation Problems / Boot logs

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Storey
> I am kinda new to FBSD, still kinda learning stuff. Anyway, when my > system boots i see all kinda fragmentation information. How do I > correct this? Any good reading material? FreeBSD will defragment itself without any action from the user. However, defragmentation requires some blank space,

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Huff
Mike Jeays writes: > A typical workstation might use 50 watts when idle. If power is > 5 cents per KW=hour, it will cost you about $2 a month. 50 watts > used to heat your room won't make a lot of difference - just a > bit less than a 60 watt light bulb... You might be surprised. W

Re: Anti-Spam app for sendmail

2004-06-08 Thread Skylar Thompson
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 10:35:45AM -0500, Chris wrote: > Any comments on a good anti-spam app that works with sendmail for a mail > server? I'd highly recommend MailScanner (http://www.mailscanner.info) combined with SpamAssassin (http://www.spamassassin.org) and ClamAv (http://www.clamav.net/).

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Mike Jeays
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 16:06, Bill Moran wrote: > Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > > >> Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess > > >> those use > > >> less power, right? > > > > > > I remember having this con

apache 2 in ports

2004-06-08 Thread info
Hi, I want to compile apache2 from ports with suexec. Yet there is no mention of it at all in the Make file. It is in Makefile.doc but i'm not sure if thats what i should beusing. Can someone fill me in please. Jeff. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lis

FreeBSD on Soekris Boards (Was: Re: Leaving a server on all day)

2004-06-08 Thread Cordula's Web
> > Perhaps something like Soekris boards could be useful? Has > > someone used them to build a power-saving server? > > Sure. I've got a Soekris net4801 sitting right next to me which is > running some custom network monitoring/IDS/IPS software, and the Via > EPIA mini-ITX form factor is anoth

Re: Printing to a network photosmart printer

2004-06-08 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Louis LeBlanc wrote: See /usr/ports/print/hpijs. This certainly claims to work. I'm not understanding something though. I'm trying to set it up through /etc/printcap as described, but I still get the same problem after restarting lpd. I've downloaded the ppd, done the edits as

Problem: cannot install on Dell 400SC

2004-06-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
Hi, I am hoping someone can give us some clues about this problem. A couple of us have done some searching, but found nothing that bears directly on it. Maybe some different search clues might also help. I am hoping for more than just "it won't work, because..." but, even a conclusive one of t

OT: The fan club (was: Re: [Going further OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day)

2004-06-08 Thread Jerry Dunham
On 8 Jun 2004 at 13:45, Jason Taylor wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > > > Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent > >>PSU with enough room for some decent 80mm or larger low noise fans > >>rather than opening up the side

Re: Printing to a network photosmart printer

2004-06-08 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 06/07/04 05:18 PM, Warren Block sat at the `puter and typed: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > > Since I've just gotten hold of a shiny new HP PSC photosmart 2510 > > printer, I'd really like to get some use out of it from my FreeBSD > > system (don't want to waste it on the Windoz

RE: VPN server

2004-06-08 Thread Foster, ThomasX
PPTP solutions for FreeBSD include MPD and Poptop IPSEC/VPN solution include using kernel IPSEC and GIF interfaces : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html check out http://www.section6.net/help/pptphow.php for info on a dedicated PPTP server using FreeBSD Thomas Fo

AWSTATS Error & Resolution

2004-06-08 Thread Drew Tomlinson
After upgrading perl from 5.8.2 to 5.8.4, following the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING, I found awstats-6.0_1 no longer worked. I ran awstats.pl interactively and received the following error: Bizarre copy of ARRAY in aassign at /path/to/awstats.pl line 8707 After some checking, I found th

Re: make buildworld problem [lib/libedit]

2004-06-08 Thread Christian Hiris
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 17:41, Mantas Audickas wrote: > Hello there, > i don't know where to ask.. i have tried in many irc channels, but no > one could help me.. > so i'm trying to make buildworld, but there i get an error, always the > same.. i have tried in fresh installed os, with GENERIC kerne

Re: [still going ... OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
Kevin Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jason Taylor wrote: > > > Ok, I'll chime in here. Here's what everything I ever learned about > > heat transfer and fluid flow tells me: > > > > Everything Bill is saying is correct. The best way to cool is to move > > as much flu

VPN server

2004-06-08 Thread Joshua Lewis
I am looking for some recomendations for a powerful (yet simple if possible) VPN server. At present I will need to only have access to one other network in a different office running Win2K PPTP. Hopefully I will need to expand in the future to other networks that may or may not be MS based. I wou

Re: freebsd- Newby question

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
"LW Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to learn unix. I need a recommendation for a good beginers book > (eg: Unix for dummies) > I install Freebsd on an old desktop, but I have never used unix, and need a > starting point. _The_Comlete_FreeBSD_ by Greg Lehey has a lot of good chapte

Re: [Going further OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jason Taylor wrote: > Ok, I'll chime in here. Here's what everything I ever learned about > heat transfer and fluid flow tells me: > > Everything Bill is saying is correct. The best way to cool is to move > as much fluid (air is a fluid for the purpose of this discussion) a

Re: mysql user

2004-06-08 Thread RazorOnFreeBSD
Thanks everyone... ;) Next time I'll use the ports. seems way easier (and originally that was the reason I choose FreeBSD over Linux! :S ) - Original Message - From: "Matthew Seaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RazorOnFreeBSD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, Ju

Re: Hyperthreading question

2004-06-08 Thread Eugene Lee
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 03:36:28PM -0400, Dwayne MacKinnon wrote: : : I'm upgrading some machines from 4.8-RELEASE to 4.10-RELEASE. The : machines in question are dual-processor xeon boxes. Now, my boss is : adamant in that he doesn't want hyperthreading enabled on the machines. : : In 4.8-RELE

Re: mysql user

2004-06-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:15:51PM +0200, RazorOnFreeBSD wrote: > I maybe didn't see something, for sure it's a dumb problem > I installed MySQL 4.0.20 from sources downloaded on MySQL website and then I checked > before adding my "mysql" user on the box if there was one I never installe

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Am Dienstag, 8. Juni 2004 16:44 schrieb Peter Ulrich Kruppa: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin > > client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of > > power? > > > > Is it true that

RE: freebsd- Newby question

2004-06-08 Thread Foster, ThomasX
Unix System Administrator's Handbook # Paperback: 896 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.30 x 9.23 x 7.06 # Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR; 3rd edition (August 2000) # ISBN: 0130206016 | All Editions Hope that helps :D Thomas Foster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

Re: [Going further OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Kent Stewart
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 01:45 pm, Jason Taylor wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > > Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hi, > > Everything Bill is saying is correct. The best way to cool is to > move as much fluid (air is a fluid for the purpose of this > discussion) as fast as possible across w

[OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jun 8, 2004, at 5:06 PM, Bernt. H wrote: No need to guess, use an amp-meter. :-) Well If it measure trueRMS then you could use it, otherwise no. You are correct that one needs to measure the voltage and use the RMS value, or DC series equivalent if you like that phrase, in order to figure out

freebsd- Newby question

2004-06-08 Thread LW Ellis
I am trying to learn unix. I need a recommendation for a good beginers book (eg: Unix for dummies) I install Freebsd on an old desktop, but I have never used unix, and need a starting point. Thanx Later, Leon A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Sir Winston Chu

mysql user

2004-06-08 Thread RazorOnFreeBSD
Hi everyone, I maybe didn't see something, for sure it's a dumb problem I installed MySQL 4.0.20 from sources downloaded on MySQL website and then I checked before adding my "mysql" user on the box if there was one I never installed MySQL before and I already have a mysql user but I don

Re: Anti-Spam app for sendmail

2004-06-08 Thread Bernt. H
Chris wrote: Any comments on a good anti-spam app that works with sendmail for a mail server? Yes. You can have a look at messagewall its in the ports. www.messagewall.org Been using it for the past year now and it's works just fine. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jun 8, 2004, at 4:06 PM, Bill Moran wrote: Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No need to guess, use an amp-meter. :-) What a crazy idea. I seem to remember plugging monitors into a UPS in an attempt to use the cheesy "load meter" lights to tell which was drawing more juice, when that d

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Bernt. H
Charles Swiger wrote: On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote: Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess those use less power, right? I remember having this conversation with someone not too long ago, and our consensus was that flat screens used just as much power as

Re: [Going further OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Jason Taylor
Bill Moran wrote: Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, What is so bad with the floor? Ever move into a beautiful house only to find the floor *flooded* at the first serious cloud break? ;-) BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent PSU with enough room for some

Re: make buildworld problem

2004-06-08 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-08 18:41, Mantas Audickas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello there, > i don't know where to ask.. i have tried in many irc channels, but no > one could help me.. > so i'm trying to make buildworld, but there i get an error, always the > same.. i have tried in fresh installed os, with GE

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jun 8, 2004, at 2:54 PM, Cordula's Web wrote: AMD processors now have fairly good thermal behavior when they are idle, although it obviously helps if one can enable APCI and power management capabilities to either throttle down the CPU speed or even go into sleep mode. What about other architect

Re: OT: group coding standards

2004-06-08 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-07 13:10, "Goodleaf, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It's a hard problem. How do you provide conventions that don't annoy >the hell out of programmers, but which ensure that legibile, >maintainable code is left? First of all, I should note this: As long as there is a way

Re: Anti-Spam app for sendmail

2004-06-08 Thread Eric Crist
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 10:35, Chris wrote: > Any comments on a good anti-spam app that works with sendmail for a mail > server? Yeah, try SpamAssassin. I've been using it since January, and have almost zero SPAM delivered to my inbox now. I think in all that time it has only had one false po

i845->i865 on 4.9 RELEASE

2004-06-08 Thread AlexZivenko
Hi guys! I have one question for you. I had an intel mainboard on i845 chipset. All was beautiful with 4.9 Release. When I got i865 chipset I have many problems... first time, when I reinstalled FreeBSd It was rebooting when I boot that, then it was some eroor with BTX

Re: [Going further OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
Nico Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > What is so bad with the floor? > > Ever move into a beautiful house only to find the floor *flooded* at the > first serious cloud break? ;-) > > BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent > PSU with enough room for s

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > >> Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess > >> those use > >> less power, right? > > > > I remember having this conversation with someone not too long ago, and > > our > > conse

Re: [OT] What's "QED"? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Jos De Laender
Bill Campbell wrote: The original Latin is ``Quod Erat Demonstrandum'', translates to that was demonstrated (about as much as I remember from five years of Latin). Quod erat demonstrandum is correct. The translation is rather : what needed to be proven, what needed to be demonstrated ... (alt

[Going further OT] Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi, What is so bad with the floor? Ever move into a beautiful house only to find the floor *flooded* at the first serious cloud break? ;-) BTW - I'd make sure I'd get/have a decent computer case with a decent PSU with enough room for some decent 80mm or larger low noise fans rather than opening

5.2.1 fails to install on Toshiba Satellite A15-S127

2004-06-08 Thread Mikhail V.Paremski
I tried to install FBSD 5.2.1 on Toshiba Satellite A15-S127 (Mobile Intel Celeron Id=0xf27 Stepping = 7 2GHz/256M/30G CDRW, USB floppy. During boot from installation floppy kernel hungs just after: pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 6 entries at 0xc00f01a0 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherb

Hyperthreading question

2004-06-08 Thread Dwayne MacKinnon
Hi all, I'm upgrading some machines from 4.8-RELEASE to 4.10-RELEASE. The machines in question are dual-processor xeon boxes. Now, my boss is adamant in that he doesn't want hyperthreading enabled on the machines. In 4.8-RELEASE things were simple... I just didn't add the "options HTT" line to

Re: FreeBSD.org e-mail addresses

2004-06-08 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 5:20 AM + 6/8/04, Andreas Carnaily wrote: Hello All! I have a strange question and I couldn't answer it myself in any documentation. Can I get some e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I can, what should I do or who should I be? You have to be an active committer to the FreeBSD project, which

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 03:05:14PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote: : Yes; spills, flying objects, whatever. Most importantly, it's not on : the floor, and securely on my desk. I deal w/ the noise by keeping the What is so bad with the floor? : > That reminds me: is a CD/RW a feasible data backup device?

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Joe Altman
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:51:51PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 02:42:16PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote: > : Take the side off of your case, turn the open side toward the wall, > > Why against the wall? So nothing damages it? Yes; spills, flying objects, whatever. Most i

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Cordula's Web
> > less power, right? Also, a 1.8GHz Athlon won't use any more power than > > necessary during idle time, right? > > AMD processors now have fairly good thermal behavior when they are > idle, although it obviously helps if one can enable APCI and power > management capabilities to either throt

Re: [OT] What's "QED"? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Huff
Bill Campbell writes: > The original Latin is ``Quod Erat Demonstrandum'', translates to > that was demonstrated (about as much as I remember from five > years of Latin). Perfect passive periphrastic, if I've got it right. Robert Huff __

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 02:42:16PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote: : Take the side off of your case, turn the open side toward the wall, Why against the wall? So nothing damages it? : with some space between it and the wall. Especially during the summer. My setup has a fan in the back, and also one on

Re: fstab

2004-06-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > > asuming that you have done the whole fdisk/disklabel/newfs you can list > > the contents of /dev thus, ls /dev to find out. It will be ad1s1d oassume > > something like that > > I do have several ad1* devices in /dev but I can not mount them. So I > asume they are just there to be there? >

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Bill Moran wrote: Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess those use less power, right? I remember having this conversation with someone not too long ago, and our consensus was that flat screens used just as much power as tube monitors. Don't

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Joe Altman
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 01:21:01PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin > client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of > power? > > Is it true that the heat buildup in a home system (rather than

Re: free

2004-06-08 Thread Dan Strick
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT), dauda braimah wrote: >> > How do I install freebsd and another Os in a pc with > 2gigabyte hdd disk eg Window XP and freebsd. > > How do I format a system that has freebsd 4.5 in it >> I strongly recommend against trying to shoehorn XP and FreeBSD onto a 2

Re: free

2004-06-08 Thread arden
can't believe I'm answering this especially on here but the min spec for XP is 1.5 gig that doesn't leave much for BSDs or to run any applications in either OS hard disks are cheap as chips these days think its time to upgrade arden On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 18:38, Bill Moran wrote: > [Please u

Re: Dangerous file system / disk problem

2004-06-08 Thread Ben Paley
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 10:38, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Tuesday 08 June 2004 05:20, Ben Paley wrote: > > But seriously, does any of this suggest a course of action to you? I'm > > planning to try the "set sysid to 0" plan... what if that doesn't work? > > Sounds like an excellent idea. Perhaps wind

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: Hopefully I'll get my flat screen back soon from repair. I guess those use less power, right? Also, a 1.8GHz Athlon won't use any more power than necessary during idle time, right? Yes, a flat screen typically uses about 50W; a big CRT might

Re: free

2004-06-08 Thread Kent Stewart
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 10:38 am, Bill Moran wrote: > [Please use "reply all" to include the mailing list in subsequent > questions, I do not always have time to respond to all follow-ups.] > > dauda braimah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > thanks for that email and the prompt reply. > >

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
Jonathon McKitrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Richard Caley wrote: > : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathon McKitrick (jm) writes: > : > : jm> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin > : jm> client laptop. Will run

Re: [OT] What's "QED"? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004, Kent Stewart wrote: >On Tuesday 08 June 2004 09:36 am, Bill Moran wrote: >> Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Robert Huff wrote: >> > >Peter Risdon writes: >> > >> I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch >> > >> sees many commits that are likely

Re: free

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
[Please use "reply all" to include the mailing list in subsequent questions, I do not always have time to respond to all follow-ups.] dauda braimah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bill, > thanks for that email and the prompt reply. > > What practical minimum size required to install > freebsd and

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Richard Caley wrote: : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathon McKitrick (jm) writes: : : jm> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin : jm> client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of : jm> p

Re: acpi question

2004-06-08 Thread Oliver B. Fischer
Hello Dan, there is a separate list on ACPI: [EMAIL PROTECTED] May you wish to subscribe to it. Regards, Oliver Fischer Dan Cojocar wrote: Hello, I noticed that my hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active is set -1 and i can't change this value, what is this meaning? Thanks,

Re: [OT] What's "QED"? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Kent Stewart
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 09:36 am, Bill Moran wrote: > Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert Huff wrote: > > >Peter Risdon writes: > > >> I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch > > >> sees many commits that are likely to be problematic. > > > > > > In general, no

Re: Perl and linux emulation

2004-06-08 Thread Daniel Bye
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 11:27:29AM -0500, Jason Godfrey wrote: > Hello. > > I have a perl module (Adobe's FDF toolkit) that uses two .so files as part > of it's magic. These files come precompiled for Linux. Not surprisingly, when > I try to do a perl "use" on the module I get an error like this:

Re: [OT] What's "QED"? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:36:47 -0400 Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Robert Huff wrote: > > > > >Peter Risdon writes: > > > > > >> I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch sees > > >> many commits that are likely to be proble

[OT] What's "QED"? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Huff wrote: > > >Peter Risdon writes: > > > >> I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch sees > >> many commits that are likely to be problematic. > >> > > In general, no. > > On the other hand ... think of this as a

Re: fstab

2004-06-08 Thread Joshua Lewis
> asuming that you have done the whole fdisk/disklabel/newfs you can list > the contents of /dev thus, ls /dev to find out. It will be ad1s1d oassume > something like that I do have several ad1* devices in /dev but I can not mount them. So I asume they are just there to be there? Why would it be

Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > > >Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>cvsup'ing overnight is routine and fine. > >> > >>The make build/install stuff seems a bit more delicate. I'm happy that I > >>have figured out how to automate this, but not _whethe

Perl and linux emulation

2004-06-08 Thread Jason Godfrey
Hello. I have a perl module (Adobe's FDF toolkit) that uses two .so files as part of it's magic. These files come precompiled for Linux. Not surprisingly, when I try to do a perl "use" on the module I get an error like this: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/FDF.so' for module Acro

Re: free

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
dauda braimah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do I install freebsd and another Os in a pc with > 2gigabyte hdd disk eg Window XP and freebsd. > > How do I format a system that has freebsd 4.5 in it Have you read the install docs?: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/inst

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Richard Caley
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathon McKitrick (jm) writes: jm> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin jm> client laptop. Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of jm> power? Turn the monitor off, especially if it is getting old. I have a 19

Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades

2004-06-08 Thread Peter Risdon
Robert Huff wrote: Peter Risdon writes: I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch sees many commits that are likely to be problematic. In general, no. On the other hand ... think of this as a Murphy's Law scenario: if you automate, it _will_ break horribly two days befo

Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades

2004-06-08 Thread Peter Risdon
Bill Moran wrote: Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: cvsup'ing overnight is routine and fine. The make build/install stuff seems a bit more delicate. I'm happy that I have figured out how to automate this, but not _whether_ I should do so. I am of course only considering tracking RELENG_4

portupgrade -c (was Re: Boot GUI / Boot data and process / Fragmentation)

2004-06-08 Thread Randy Pratt
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 00:59:58 -0700 Kent Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 08 June 2004 12:37 am, Bruce Hunter wrote: > > Thanks for your help Kent > > > > I read something about using portversion -c with the portupgrade > > command to upgrade installed pkgs that needed to be updated.

Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Huff
Peter Risdon writes: > I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch sees > many commits that are likely to be problematic. In general, no. On the other hand ... think of this as a Murphy's Law scenario: if you automate, it _will_ break horribly two days before s

Re: F-Prot update errors

2004-06-08 Thread Hasse
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 17.08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I install F-Prot from the ports. If I run check-updates.pl from the > console I get a sucessful update everytime (or a nothing updates found > message) but if I added the script into the crontab (via crontab -e as > root) I get the followin

Re: fxp0: device timeout with thinkpad r40

2004-06-08 Thread Luke Kearney
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 17:45:09 +0200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus: > Hey > > I've found some documented problems with this on google but nothing that really > helped me. I have an IBM Thinkpad R40 and finding chipset information for it all the > docs say that it's an Ethernet Driver(ya i know)

Re: Leaving a server on all day

2004-06-08 Thread Chiang Seng Chang
Well... X is not started automatically (a.k.a. no gdm/kdm)... sometimes I'd like to "play" with some X stuff... I know there are other solution, like build on a fast machine and install onto the slow one. I didn't bother because 1) the server is still working while the upgrade is taking it's o

Re: Ernesto Ortiz

2004-06-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > I have been doing some research on FreeBSD and I want to use it as my OS but > i have no idea on what files I need to download from the ftp sites. If > anyone can help with my problem I would appreciate it a lot. I have a really > good computer and I am sure that is more than capable of run

fxp0: device timeout with thinkpad r40

2004-06-08 Thread stefan
Hey I've found some documented problems with this on google but nothing that really helped me. I have an IBM Thinkpad R40 and finding chipset information for it all the docs say that it's an Ethernet Driver(ya i know) so the best i've got is that it's intergrated into the motherboard. I even ha

free

2004-06-08 Thread dauda braimah
How do I install freebsd and another Os in a pc with 2gigabyte hdd disk eg Window XP and freebsd. How do I format a system that has freebsd 4.5 in it Thanks you and God bless __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Mess

make buildworld problem

2004-06-08 Thread Mantas Audickas
Hello there, i don't know where to ask.. i have tried in many irc channels, but no one could help me.. so i'm trying to make buildworld, but there i get an error, always the same.. i have tried in fresh installed os, with GENERIC kernel and with my own, cvsup source and so on.. but nothing goes be

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