>On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:50:01 +0100 (CET), Luna wrote:
>
>> Can any one give me some help in finding out what I'm doing wrong??
>
>Press Ctrl+Shift+U then type the hex code of the unicode character you'd
>like to enter.
>
>
OK, I'll try this. I'll find a font that included the code chart to have a
>On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Luna wrote:
>> HI, sorry but I am wondering how I can get those additional characters in
the
>> fonts to work on my Gimp 2.6. I've tried the ATL with the number codes
for
>> the certain fonts I tried this with and got nothing but a binking cursor
to
>> show for th
>Luna wrote:
>> HI, sorry but I am wondering how I can get those additional characters in
the
>> fonts to work on my Gimp 2.6. I've tried the ATL with the number codes
for
>> the certain fonts I tried this with and got nothing but a binking cursor
to
>> show for the attempt. The ATL[code] works in
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:50:01 +0100 (CET), Luna wrote:
> Can any one give me some help in finding out what I'm doing wrong??
Press Ctrl+Shift+U then type the hex code of the unicode character you'd
like to enter.
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HI, sorry but I am wondering how I can get those additional characters in the
fonts to work on my Gimp 2.6. I've tried the ATL with the number codes for
the certain fonts I tried this with and got nothing but a binking cursor to
show for the attempt. The ATL[code] works in Windows, so I know the f
Hi Joao,
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 22:36 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
> I see what you want and is lacking: the "real time" display of the
> selection's aspect ratio. i don't know why Sven has failed to
> identify this is what you were talking about from the very beginning
You may not have notic
Thomas Worthington wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:42:54 -, Bob Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[..]
>> a) Do you know the ratio you want to end up with before you start
>> cropping?
>
> I usually have a target ratio and some leeway. So I might know that
> the ideal is, say, .618 but that .6 t
Here it is,
http://www.pion.com.br/python/ratio_info.py
now please, help us doing something constructive here.
I see hat a small misundesratnding on teh e-mails had degenerated into
an unneded flamewar.
Thomas,
I see what you want and is lacking: the "real time" display of the
selection's asp
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:42:54 -, Bob Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Worthington wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:40:09 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [..]
>
>> Since I use the click-drag a lot when working on websites, an extra
>> twiddle with an extra menu is a nuis
Thomas Worthington wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:40:09 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[..]
> Since I use the click-drag a lot when working on websites, an extra
> twiddle with an extra menu is a nuisance and 2.2 remains the better
> choice for me especially as I also do a lot of
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:40:09 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Looks like despite many attempts to explain it to you, you still did not
> understand that you misunderstood how the tool works in GIMP 2.4 and
> that you don't need the Alt key in order to use it.
>
Have it you
Hi,
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 16:14 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> Anyway, the answer to my original question is clearly "We think the Alt
> key is fine as it is and we're not going to fix it". That cripples my
> useage of the Gimp and I might well write a patch myself but I think it's
> a
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:17:10 -, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 21 December 2007 1:12:41 am JC Dill wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
>> > I didn't attack you... yet. You, on the other hand, ARE
>> > attacking others here: "And why on Earth would you not at
>> > least display the actual rati
Alt+Shift+drag and Alt+Ctrl+ drag seem to work on some Linux system
only, such as Ubuntu.
But it doesn't work on my OpenSuse 10.2 nor on my WinXP.
Unless there is some setting I don't know...
>> At the top of HTML help pages, you have a "Revision date" and you can
>> see that Moving Selection has n
On Friday 21 December 2007 1:12:41 am JC Dill wrote:
> Scott wrote:
> > I didn't attack you... yet. You, on the other hand, ARE
> > attacking others here: "And why on Earth would you not at
> > least display the actual ratio as the user works? Changing
> > that (as compared to 2.2 which DOES displa
JC Dill wrote:
> Geoffrey wrote:
>
>> I guess you missed the reference to the fact that ALL the work put
>> into GIMP is done by the developers on their time.
>
> I put in many years as one of the primary list admins for an open source
> project's -users list (similar to gimp-user) and -dev lis
On Friday 21 December 2007, Jeffery Small wrote:
> I think if you hold shift before
> beginning to drag the mouse, then it should also lock the aspect ratio.
I'd guess this is to make the crop tool's use consistent with the rectangle/
ellipse selection tools, where pressing modifier keys _before
Geoffrey wrote:
> I guess you missed the reference to the fact that ALL the work put
> into GIMP is done by the developers on their time.
I put in many years as one of the primary list admins for an open source
project's -users list (similar to gimp-user) and -dev list, organizing
and adding t
> Von: JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An intelligent, mature, and humble person would quickly apologize
> profusely for these mistakes. An arrogant, immature, or unintelligent
> person would be quick to splurt out more excuses, or attack yet again.
> Let's see which approach you take...
How a
Scott wrote:
> I didn't attack you... yet. You, on the other hand, ARE attacking
> others here: "And why on Earth would you not at least display
> the actual ratio as the user works? Changing that (as compared
> to 2.2 which DOES display the current ratio) was just nuts,
> frankly.
>
> "What sh
Hi julien,
On Dec 21, 2007 4:22 PM, julien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You are describing what 2.2 does for me. 2.4 simply dragged the selected
> > region, NOT its contents.
> >
> >
> At the top of HTML help pages, you have a "Revision date" and you can
> see that Moving Selection has not bee
> You are describing what 2.2 does for me. 2.4 simply dragged the selected
> region, NOT its contents.
>
>
At the top of HTML help pages, you have a "Revision date" and you can
see that Moving Selection has not been updated yet.
In Gimp 2.4, you move the selection outline.
To move the select
Jeffery Small writes:
> In my 2.4.2 version running on Solaris 10/SPARC under gnome, the check-box
> does lock the crop aspect ratio. But if the check box is not selected, no
> key, including shift, seems to lock the aspect ratio
Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>For me (on Linux), Shif
On Thursday 20 December 2007 2:20:36 pm JC Dill wrote:
> >>> Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage
> >>> in 2.4? I can't drag selections anymore because it
> >>> requires Alt and mouse at the same time, which is a
> >>> problem on Linux. How do I tell Gimp to use another
> >>> s
Geoffrey wrote:
> JC Dill wrote:
>
>> I can hardly be expected to know about something that hasn't been
>> incorporated, or has just recently been incorporated but not widely
>> announced. As I said - I'm a "potential Gimp user". I tried it several
>> years ago, and I am subscribed to this li
> Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >You enter the desired aspect
> >ratio in the Crop tool options, like 16:9, and it will use that whenever
> >you press Shift (or lock the ratio using the check button next to the
Jeffery Small writes:
> In my 2.4.2 version running on Solaris 10/SPARC un
JC Dill wrote:
> I can hardly be expected to know about something that hasn't been
> incorporated, or has just recently been incorporated but not widely
> announced. As I said - I'm a "potential Gimp user". I tried it several
> years ago, and I am subscribed to this list to stay abreast with
On Thursday 20 December 2007 2:34:56 pm Thomas Worthington wrote:
> What should the fact that you thought that was a sensible way
> of doing it make me think about you?
This from the guy who criticizes others for attacking the
messenger. Thomas, you're a jerk.
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Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>That is actually the point where the 2.4 crop tool is a lot superior
>than the one in 2.2. Not only does it not pop up an annoying dialog as
>soon as you start to use it. It also features an entry for the aspect
>ratio that has a calculator built into it.
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 22:34 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> What should the fact that you thought that was a sensible way of doing it
> make me think about you?
Actually I am responsible for most design choices in the Crop tool UI in
GIMP 2.2. Glad you like it :P
Sven
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On Dec 21, 2007 9:04 AM, Thomas Worthington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:00:40 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That is actually the point where the 2.4 crop tool is a lot superior
> > than the one in 2.2. Not only does it not pop up an annoying dialog as
Thomas Worthington wrote:
> This discussion isn't going anywhere - you think 2.4 is a big improvement
> on 2.2 and I don't, is the bottom line here. I'm sure you have your
> reasons and I'm sure you think they're good reasons.
The reasons are described in detail at
http://gui.gimp.org/index.p
JC Dill wrote:
> Perhaps you haven't been reading very carefully as I've already told you
> the #1 stopper - Gimp has no way to "record" a series of edits and then
> apply that same series of edits to other images.
This is what the following enhancement request deals with:
http://bugzilla.gnom
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:00:40 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is actually the point where the 2.4 crop tool is a lot superior
> than the one in 2.2. Not only does it not pop up an annoying dialog as
> soon as you start to use it. It also features an entry for the aspect
> rati
Scott wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:17:17 am JC Dill wrote:
>
>
>>> Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in
>>> 2.4? I can't drag selections anymore because it requires Alt
>>> and mouse at the same time, which is a problem on Linux. How
>>> do I tell Gimp to use a
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 21:46 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> The alt-key is covered in other posts but the other killer problem for me
> in 2.4 is the lack of a ratio display or lock on the crop tool. I need to
> crop to a ratio a lot and a display that always reads "current" is no use.
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:08:44 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 14:46 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
>> I've just reverted to 2.2
>>
>> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final
>> straw.
>
> Sorry, but if there are problems
< snip >
>
> I recommend "Beginning Gimp" by Akkana Peck, ISBN 1-59059-587-4
I fully agree.
Norman
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< Big snip >
> I've seen this happen several times over my years of lurking on this
> list. I didn't call myself a "true professional" - I stated that I'm a
> professional photographer solely to give you context for my comments.
I also lurk and very occasionally make a contribution. You phot
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:37:02 -, JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I hope that documentation is high on your list. This is one of the
> weakest parts of most open source projects. Something like a browser
> needs little documentation. Something more complex like a mail reader
> needs mo
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:05:39 -, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:26:12 am Thomas Worthington
> wrote:
>> Moving a selected region is a very common action and
>> now seems impossible under normal Linux user interfaces. I can
>> see the application of "capriciou
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:37 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
> Gimp was (the last time I used it) very poorly documented.
> It is very important to document not just new features but also anytime
> you change how a feature works - such as this alt-key issue.
I don't think a user manual of more than
On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:17:17 am JC Dill wrote:
> > Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in
> > 2.4? I can't drag selections anymore because it requires Alt
> > and mouse at the same time, which is a problem on Linux. How
> > do I tell Gimp to use another shift-type key
On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:30:40 am Daniel Hornung wrote:
> > Actually, moving a selection in Gimp 2.4 is easier than it
> > was in 2.2. Simply left click within the selected region and
> > drag... no modifier keys needed and no need to grab the edge
> > of the selection when doing so. I just
Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:17 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
>
>
>> I'm a typical "potential Gimp user". I tried to use it many years ago
>> (when I first joined this list) but it couldn't meet my needs. I've
>> remained interested in Gimp, and stayed on the list to lurk a
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:17 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
> I'm a typical "potential Gimp user". I tried to use it many years ago
> (when I first joined this list) but it couldn't meet my needs. I've
> remained interested in Gimp, and stayed on the list to lurk and learn.
> I had hope that some
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:17 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
> The behavior and use of the Alt key changed between 2.2 and 2.4, without
> providing any way for users to select or configure the older behavior in
> Gimp. That is showing disregard for your established user base. You
> may have good r
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Scott wrote:
> Actually, moving a selection in Gimp 2.4 is easier than it was in
> 2.2. Simply left click within the selected region and drag... no
> modifier keys needed and no need to grab the edge of the
> selection when doing so. I just did this in 2.4.1 in KDE 3.
Olivier Lecarme wrote:
> JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Thomas Worthington wrote:
>>
>>> I've just reverted to 2.2
>>>
>>> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
>>>
>> I've been lurking on this list for several years. I'd LOVE to be abl
On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:26:12 am Thomas Worthington
wrote:
> Moving a selected region is a very common action and
> now seems impossible under normal Linux user interfaces. I can
> see the application of "capricious" to that situation. What
> was the benefit of changing the default drag ac
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Robert Smits wrote:
> Windows key? What is this mythical key? It is certainly not evident on any
> of my keyboards.
It's the one with the flying (i.e. moving) window. But I'm afraid some
malicous company grabbed it as their trade mark without even implementing the
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 18:26 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> I'm not aware of any interaction with the layer mask which requires Alt
> and mouse movement (only click, which isn't a problem). Moving a selected
> region is a very common action and now seems impossible under normal Linux
Thomas Worthington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:29:12 -, Olivier Lecarme
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Could you be only a little specific about these "capricious changes"?
> > And what is this "alt-key problem"? From the beginning of GIMP, the alt
> > key has been
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:29:12 -, Olivier Lecarme
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could you be only a little specific about these "capricious changes"?
> And what is this "alt-key problem"? From the beginning of GIMP, the alt
> key has been used for some specific uses, for example in the layer ma
Hi,
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 14:46 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> I've just reverted to 2.2
>
> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
Sorry, but if there are problems with 2.4, then we would like to hear
about them. So far the feedback has been very positive.
JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Worthington wrote:
> > I've just reverted to 2.2
> >
> > 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
>
> I've been lurking on this list for several years. I'd LOVE to be able
> to use Gimp instead of paying the ever incr
Thomas Worthington wrote:
> I've just reverted to 2.2
>
> 2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
I've been lurking on this list for several years. I'd LOVE to be able
to use Gimp instead of paying the ever increasing price of Photoshop.
But Gimp is NOT a suit
On December 19, 2007 01:10:11 pm Daniel Hornung wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> > Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in 2.4? I can't
> > drag selections anymore because it requires Alt and mouse at the same
> > time, which is a problem on Li
I've just reverted to 2.2
2.4 has too many problems to bother with; the alt key is the final straw.
TW
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:42:29 -, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 21:18 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
>
>> It's not a "problem" either with window
Hi,
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 21:18 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> It's not a "problem" either with window managers nor Linux - the alt-mouse
> behaviour is standard and well established; it's a problem with the Gimp
> (assuming it can't be changed).
Applications such as GIMP used to use thi
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 21:18 +, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:10:11 -, Daniel Hornung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> >> Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in 2.4? I can't
> >> drag s
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:10:11 -, Daniel Hornung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Thomas Worthington wrote:
>> Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in 2.4? I can't
>> drag selections anymore because it requires Alt and mouse at the same
>> time, w
On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Thomas Worthington wrote:
> Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in 2.4? I can't
> drag selections anymore because it requires Alt and mouse at the same
> time, which is a problem on Linux.
It's a problem in some (most?) window managers, not with
Is there any way to restore the Alt key to its old usage in 2.4? I can't
drag selections anymore because it requires Alt and mouse at the same
time, which is a problem on Linux. How do I tell Gimp to use another
shift-type key for that action?
TW
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