On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
This would make sense only if there were a single
20th-century aesthetic preference.
Who is to say there is not? Those alive during a historical period are too
sensitive to the trees of plurality to discern the
, 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated thesis
that early music performance practice today is really a modern
fabrication that seeks
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated thesis
that early music performance practice today is really a modern
fabrication that seeks to apply 20th (now 21st) century aesthetic
preferences
Dear Howard,
I must confess, that the logic of Your Arguments is always a very great
pleasure, a light in the darkness of December.
Thank You
Andreas (Berlin)
Am 20.12.2013 19:54, schrieb howard posner:
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Christopher Wilkechriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
This also
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated thesis
that early music performance
Dear Howard,
I must confess, that the logic of Your Arguments is always a very great
pleasure, a
light in the darkness of December.
Thank You
Andreas (Berlin)
Wholeheartedly seconded
Mathias
Am 20.12.2013 19:54, schrieb howard posner:
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Christopher
I also always enjoy Howard's posts and logic.
Sterling
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote:
Dear Howard,
I must confess, that the logic of Your Arguments is always a very great
pleasure, a
light in the darkness of December.
Thank
Howard,
On Fri, 12/20/13, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM,
Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's
often stated thesis
that early music
Yes, I always enjoy responding to his sophistries and redirections.
Chris
Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com
On Fri, 12/20/13, Sterling spiffys84...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream
Since this thread seems to be winding down, I just wanted to thank
everyone who has contributed to it for a stimulating, spirited and
thought provoking conversation. Thank you.
Gary
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I'm not qualified to decide what's right and what's not in any art. I
said, ...from Segovia's point of view...
I'm going to try to refrain from responding any further so as not to
raise the ire of the content police.
Back to the lute when the numbness in my left hand subsides.
Gary
On
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated thesis
that early music performance practice today is really a modern
fabrication that seeks to apply 20th (now 21st) century aesthetic
preferences to past music. Indeed, the technically clean, vibrato-less,
metronomic,
Good points and very well said, Chris.
Ned
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On 19/12/13 8:27 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote:
Richard Taruskin
Josquin's Missa Di Dadi
Funny you should mention these two in the same email. Decades ago I
attended an early music workshop in Miami where Taruskin was one of the
instructors, and his task of the week was to lead us recorder
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed we got so far away from
the [LUTE]-forum
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated thesis
that early music performance practice today is really a modern
fabrication that seeks to apply 20th
Bruce Haines is a must read regarding this issue (romantic, modern and
the Hip approach).
2013/12/19 Christopher Wilke [1]chriswi...@yahoo.com
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated
thesis
that early music performance practice today is really
: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed we got so far away from
the [LUTE]-forum
This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated thesis
that early music performance practice today is really a modern
fabrication that seeks to apply 20th (now 21st) century aesthetic
So your heart belongs to di Dadi (Cole Porter, 1938)
On 12/19/2013 6:22 AM, Geoff Gaherty wrote:
On 19/12/13 8:27 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote:
Richard Taruskin
Josquin's Missa Di Dadi
Funny you should mention these two in the same email. Decades ago I
attended an early music workshop in
OUCH!
On 12/19/13 11:25 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
So your heart belongs to di Dadi (Cole Porter, 1938)
On 12/19/2013 6:22 AM, Geoff Gaherty wrote:
On 19/12/13 8:27 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote:
Richard Taruskin
Josquin's Missa Di Dadi
Funny you should mention these two in
So what are we left with? Personal judgements on what is and what is not
interesting music.
Or good music, or correct music, or aurally thought music. Harnoncourt wrote it
some 40 years ago: HIP is not about doing music as it was done centuries ago
but about making lively music for today's
of the masses were more like those of us engaged in
discourse here.
Best,
Eugene
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just
Segovia could have been polite and gentle providing that a student followed his
remarks, fingerings etc. This is nothing extraordinary in music, and there are
similar reported cases from the past centuries . Some big Maestros were known
for bullying un-subjugated pupils. (Bach was known for
On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, JarosÅaw Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl wrote:
Bach was known for bullying kids from his choir
Really? Do you have a source for this?
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On 18/12/13 11:37 AM, howard posner wrote:
On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Jarosław Lipskijaroslawlip...@wp.pl wrote:
Bach was known for bullying kids from his choir
Really? Do you have a source for this?
I recall reading that he was fired from an early gig for improper
relations with
The Segovia film is nice in its own way, it was probably interesting for at
least a part of the audience at the time it was recorded,
sounds completely outdated and boring for most people today,
and may be rediscovered in the future for some reason we would never even think
of.
Is it somehow
On Dec 18, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Geoff Gaherty ge...@gaherty.ca wrote:
I recall reading that he was fired from an early gig for improper relations
with one of the women in the choir.
I don't doubt you read something of the sort, as there is a lot of rubbish
written about Bach. He was reproved
On 19 Dec, 2013, at 1:22 AM, erne...@aquila.mus.br erne...@aquila.mus.br
wrote:
And the arab / turkish / syrian lutes in use nowadays?
And so it goes...
i'd say the Arab lute is far more relevant to this list than Segovia is.
τούτο ηλεκτρονικόν ταχυδρομείον εκ είΦωνου εμεύ
Hi,
The Segovia film is nice in its own way, it was probably interesting for at
least a part of the audience at the time it was recorded,
sounds completely outdated and boring for most people today,
It's fine with me if you don't find it interesting. It's just a personal taste
(for many
It's scattered among several documents (letters etc). I don't have enough time
to dig in all of them now, but if you are really interested I could send it to
you in my spare time.
Another thing is what could be called bullying at times of Bach. Probably many
behaviors that we don't accept
Segovia was not incompetent, he was simply unmusical. He wasn't alone in
that, among the stars of his day. Pablo Casals also comes to mind, and
not a few violinists.
RT
On 12/18/2013 2:10 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote:
Hi,
The Segovia film is nice in its own way, it was probably interesting
Hi Roman,
Segovia was not incompetent, he was simply unmusical. He wasn't alone in
that, among the stars of his day. Pablo Casals also comes to mind, and not a
few violinists.
RT
Hmmm… we enter a very subjective territory here. Someone called unmusical for
one may seem epitome of
One could argue that the municipal authorities bullied Rosenmüller, and
caused his flight to Italy (on account of his molestation of minors).
They should have resorted to physical punishment rather than bullying.
RT
On 12/18/2013 2:24 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote:
It's scattered among several
Obviously I meant kids upbringing ;-)
JL
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One could argue that the municipal authorities bullied Rosenmüller, and
caused his flight to Italy (on account of his molestation of minors).
They should have resorted
In the latest ad from ArkivMusic i noticed advertised the Complete RCA Album
Collection of Julian Bream. Cost is $99.99 and it includes 40 CDs and 2 DVDs,
for anyone interested.
Ned
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I'm not a guitarist, but I am a cellist. I do wonder what is meant here about
both Segovia and Casals being unmusical, though perhaps this lute forum has
wandered far enough afield already.
Ned
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Is it just me, or is there not something ironic about a serious minded 21st century
LUTE-list member finding a great 20th century musical icon (think of him what one will
otherwise) outdated?
No doubt Mel Neusidler found papa Hans outdated. Maybe Downland thought he was
outdated. Nicolas
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed we got so far away from
the [LUTE]-forum
Is it just me, or is there not something ironic about a serious minded 21st
century LUTE-list member finding a great 20th century musical icon (think of
him what one will otherwise) outdated?
No doubt
On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
Is it just me, or is there not something ironic about a serious minded 21st
century LUTE-list member finding a great 20th century musical icon (think of
him what one will otherwise) outdated?
Not at all. Implicit in the
Which doesn't mean his decisions were right...
2013/12/18 gary [1]magg...@sonic.net
I'm sure from Segovia's point of view in promoting his own tastes he
was protecting the integrity of the guitar and the music.
Gary
On 2013-12-17 13:13, Braig, Eugene wrote:
. . .
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On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:
Is it just me, or is there not something ironic about a serious minded 21st
century LUTE-list member finding a great 20th century musical icon (think
Often the choice of a few of this or that is to stimulate the listener/
player to search out more. If those who hear it just assume those are
the ones to be played and revering only those then we end up, in a
sense, worshiping the finger that points the way.
I know, it couldn't happen in
I heard he made himself ten years younger early in his career, so it must have
been impressive for a man in his nineties or even older...
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writes
On 12/15/2013
Jeez, that kid deserved a medal for courage under fire! He also still appeared
to be brainwashed. Poor talented kid. Probably a venerated master by now.
On Dec 14, 2013, at 8:53 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
This is referred to often:
: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Really? What about the others? What about Tarrega's disciples
(specially Pujol), Barrios, and all the other latin american
guitarists? They wouldn't exist without Segovia? I don't think so.
There are so many forgotten names...
2013/12
: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Jeez, that kid deserved a medal for courage under fire! He also still appeared
to be brainwashed. Poor talented kid. Probably a venerated master by now.
On Dec 14, 2013, at 8:53 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
This is referred
entertaining than watching it on Youtube. Eugene -Original
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Chapdelain was the first-ever winner of the Guitar Foundation of America
competition, but now specializes
How does one go about preventing the tastes of one person from shaping
the tastes of an art? Van Gogh couldn't sell a painting to save his
life during his own time because of the prevailing taste of his era.
Popularity is a factor in determining an era's tastes in art. It seems
unfair to fault
The irony is that Michael's turn to steel string guitar and pop/folk
music would only have confirmed Segovia in his disdain.
Gary
On 2013-12-17 13:26, Braig, Eugene wrote:
Chapdelain was the first-ever winner of the Guitar Foundation of
America competition, but now specializes in fingerstyle
Segovia's collection of Sor has value as a pedagogical tool regardless
of its source.
Re: Segovia's name is larger than Sor's on the book. It occurred to me
that this may have been at the suggestion of the publisher. Segovia was
probably more well known than Sor at the time so his name would
Wise words, Franz
Whilst still at Conservatory, we had the opportunity of having lessons
with many of the great musicians in early music. Not all were great
teachers. But if we prepared ourselves well, we could get the best out
of any lesson by asking the right questions and
Segovia's early years seem to be unclear. Does anybody know where he
learned to play? Did he study with a master?
Most of us need to stand on the shoulders of giants, one way or
another. Nowadays we are fortunate to be able to attend summer schools
where we can have a lesson with
On 2013-12-14 03:53, David van Ooijen wrote:
I don't see any bullying here, as uncomfortable as it is to watch. And
in the student's discussion of the event, he says Segovia's criticisms
and behavior were justified and an eye opener. That same student later
plays for Segovia who praises his
D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
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On 2013-12-14 03:53, David van Ooijen
I've heard that Segovia's response to Julian Bream's success was, An
Englishman playing guitar is an abomination, although I don't think
that constitutes bullying, just the crankiness of an extremely
opinionated man whose opinions were not always correct. Bream later
dedicated an entire
Pity help anyone in the future trying to find something about the
Bream Collection The majority of the comments bear no connection to
the subject but seem to be based on much conjecture and sometime
,wishful thinking. Sure, discuss technique etc but please give an
appropriate
On 15/12/13 4:47 AM, William Samson wrote:
Segovia's early years seem to be unclear. Does anybody know where he
learned to play? Did he study with a master?
The Wikipedia article on Segovia gives some of his early history, though
I don't know how reliable it is.
Howard,
On Sun, 12/15/13, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
In Segovia's edition of Sor studies (which
features Segovia's name in much bigger type than Sor's on
the cover) he changed it to con calma. Up yours,
Fernando...
It was
On 12/14/2013 5:45 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
Re: Gary's comments on Segovia... If it were not for Segovia's
efforts, the guitar, lute, and kindred instruments would not occupy
the places they have today. I was at a dinner put on by the old
Dallas Classical Guitar society almost a decade ago
that rest peaceful.
Chris Barker
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To: 'lutelist'
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 12/14/2013 5:45 AM, Chris Barker
, 2013 11:27 AM
To: 'lutelist'
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 12/14/2013 5:45 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
Re: Gary's comments on Segovia... If it were not for Segovia's
efforts, the guitar, lute, and kindred instruments would not occupy
the places they have today. I
, 2013 11:27 AM
To: 'lutelist'
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 12/14/2013 5:45 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
Re: Gary's comments on Segovia... If it were not for Segovia's
efforts, the guitar, lute, and kindred instruments would not occupy
the places they have today. I
,
December 15, 2013 11:27 AM To: 'lutelist' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream
Collection... I just noticed
On 12/14/2013 5:45 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
Re: Gary's comments on Segovia... If it were not for Segovia's
efforts, the guitar, lute, and kindred instruments would not
occupy the places they have today. I
My cursory perusal of the available
YouTube videos show mostly an aging man. I'll make an
effort to expose myself to more of his recordings.
Toby
Be careful: his recording may sue you for gross indecency.
RT
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. Please help to make that rest peaceful.
Chris Barker
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just
strings. After reading that
I certainly was glad I grew up in the era of nylon strings.
Chris Barker
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To: lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re
that
I certainly was glad I grew up in the era of nylon strings.
Chris Barker
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Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:23 PM
To: lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I
I had a similar experience seeing Bream in concert. His projection on both lute
and guitar was nothing short of amazing.
Rick
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To:
Hi Rick
I had a similar experience seeing Bream in concert. His projection on both
lute and guitar was nothing short of amazing.
what also always amazed me about him is that he was not tied into only playing
difficult pieces, he sometimes played the easiest of pieces and made them sound
just
The sign of a true master!
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream in Concert
Hi Rick
Recently, a message was posted referring to Andres Segovia as a bully.
I think that's a little harsh, I know it's become popular to bash
Segovia and that he had a huge ego, but I don't recall him actually
bullying anyone into agreeing with his views. It seems to me that he
just expressed his
This is referred to often:
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiAbqfaYGwk
David
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On 14 December 2013 12:44, gary [4]magg...@sonic.net
Dear David,
Thanks for this; it is worth watching the *whole video* . . . I'm not
sure Chapdelaine felt he was being needlessly bullied, but there are
many similar stories from other (non-filmed) masterclasses. I've also
talked to others from this same masterclass who felt that Segovia was
On 14/12/13 7:31 AM, Gary R. Boye wrote:
Thanks for this; it is worth watching the *whole video* . . . I'm not
sure Chapdelaine felt he was being needlessly bullied
Yes, it's interesting to hear Chapdelaine's reaction to the bullying.
Segovia was amazingly sensitive to the slightest things.
Dear Geoff,
Interesting story. It reminded me that I often think that someone
transported from another century--even the 19th like Segovia, but
especially the early music period--would be horrified at how noisy our
modern world is. Not just concert halls, but everywhere: cars, buses,
hold his critics in
great disdain.
In all sincerity,
Chris Barker
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To: lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 14/12/13 8:45 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
And now, much older and wiser, are still of the same opinion, and we hold his
critics in great disdain.
My main memory of that concert by Segovia, aside from the escalotor
incident, is of a grumpy looking old man sitting alone on a huge stage
with
On 14/12/13 8:42 AM, Gary R. Boye wrote:
It reminded me that I often think that someone transported from another
century--even the 19th like Segovia, but especially the early music
period--would be horrified at how noisy our modern world is.
I've lived in the country for the past 7 years, and
disdain.
In all sincerity,
Chris Barker
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Behalf Of gary Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 5:44 AM To: lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Recently, a message
To: lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Recently, a message was posted referring to Andres Segovia as a bully.
I think that's a little harsh, I know it's become popular to bash Segovia and
that he had a huge ego, but I don't recall him actually bullying anyone
.
Joseph Mayes
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just
Gary,
On Sat, 12/14/13, gary magg...@sonic.net wrote:
I have never heard
of any actual bullying on Segovia's part. Rather, the onus
for any intimidation would be on the shear number and ardor
of his admirers.
That still sounds like bullying to
On Sat, 12/14/13, Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu wrote:
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
To: r.turov...@gmail.com r.turov...@gmail.com, Chris Barker
csbarker...@att.net, 'gary' magg...@sonic.net, 'lutelist'
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Saturday, December
On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:44 AM, gary magg...@sonic.net wrote:
Recently, a message was posted referring to Andres Segovia as a bully. I
think that's a little harsh, I know it's become popular to bash Segovia and
that he had a huge ego, but I don't recall him actually bullying anyone into
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On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:44 AM, gary magg...@sonic.net wrote:
Recently
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There are many stories out there about Segovia, among them quite a few
about rude manners toward students who would not use his
On Dec 14, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@gmx.de wrote:
I think Segovia had dedicated so much genius and effort into his views
on music, interpretations, fingerings etc. that he was unable to
imagine that a student could have done better
Never mind students; he thought
Ron,
On Thu, 12/12/13, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
Stubbs did not come to the lute from the typical classical guitar
background and thus has no reason to justify his
technique.
Ron, with this crowd, ya gotta justify everything ;-)
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Ron
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
It may sound good to you, but not for most of the lutenists out
there.
Ask Hoppy about this issue? Ok, you don't need to ask him, after all
10, 2013 8:29 PM
To: List LUTELIST
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
It may sound good to you, but not for most of the lutenists out
there.
Ask Hoppy about this issue? Ok, you don't need to ask him, after all
you don't ride a horse
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
To: Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com, List LUTELIST
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2013, 8:01 AM
OK good people, this will be my final
post on this subject. I grow weary of
the gratuitous
D.M.A.
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com
On Thu, 12/12/13, Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu wrote:
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
To: Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com, List LUTELIST
lute
...@rowan.edu wrote:
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
To: Bruno Correiabruno.l...@gmail.com, List LUTELIST
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2013, 8:01 AM
OK good people, this will be my final
post on this subject. I grow weary of
the gratuitous
To: chriswi...@yahoo.com; bruno.l...@gmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: ma...@rowan.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Thanks, Chris
You've raised the level of discourse.
Best,
Joe
On 12/12/13 8:48 AM, Christopher
I've just listened to his Kellner recording and for my taste, honestly,
it has an unpleasant sound (even with his great playing). I don't know
if he is playing with nails, but as the sound is so metallic it
confirms your statement. Now, that is a true silvery tone, no sweetness
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 09:18:19 -0800
From: Dan Winheld [2]dwinh...@lmi.net
To: Mayes, Joseph [3]ma...@rowan.edu, Christopher Wilke
[4]chriswi...@yahoo.com, Bruno Correia [5]bruno.l...@gmail.com,
List LUTELIST
towards the bottom of
the page) discussion on RH nails, Mouton etc:
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Alexander
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 09:18:19 -0800
From: Dan Winheld [2][3]dwinh...@lmi.net
To: Mayes, Joseph [3][4]ma...@rowan.edu, Christopher Wilke
[4][5]chriswi...@yahoo.com, Bruno
Can I 'like' this mail?
David
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On 11 December 2013 09:36, William Samson [3]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk
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As my lute guru, Diana
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