powermail-discuss Digest #2521 - 11/30/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2521 - Thursday, November 30, 2006 (disregard one paragraph from notification e-mail) by CTM info [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed by T.L. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: (disregard one paragraph from notification e-mail) From: CTM info [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:31:30 +0100 Folks, Please disregard the paragraph in the PM 5.2.2b3 notification e-mail regarding the merger of the PowerMail-testing list, since that text was only destined to be sent to the former members of that list and is of no relevance to current powermail-discuss members. Thanks, jean michel/ctm qa -- Subject: Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:51:49 +0100 CTM info wrote: PowerMail 5.5.2b3 is now available for download and testing from: http://powermail.simplenet.com/pm_5.2.2b3.dmg Ooops, typo error in the version number, but the URL above is correct: it downloads version 5.5.2b3... Sorry for the confusion. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I wouldn't trade my MAC for anything, neither would I trade PowerMail for anything. Steve Tarpin, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:05:00 -0500 CTM info ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-29 13:46 said: Also, upon launching, 5.5.2b3 will prompt you to choose which folder you want to use; It did not. It just used the usual folder. Leopard compatibility - PowerMail is now compatible with developer builds of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard on Intel Macs, and uses the latest version of SSL contained in the OS Should it work on PPC too? - When a connexion error occured, PowerMail was sometimes creating an empty, partial message Having seen that bug, I'll watch for it! Sean -- Whoever controls the past, controls the future - George Orwell -- Subject: Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed From: Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:33:43 -0800 Hi, I've been seeing that bug lately - v5.5, MacBook Pro, 2GB, OSX 10.4.7 Bruce -- Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.earthreflections.com As Sean McBride wrote... - When a connexion error occured, PowerMail was sometimes creating an empty, partial message Having seen that bug, I'll watch for it! Sean -- Subject: Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed From: T.L. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:15:47 -0500 CTM info ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-29 13:46 said: Also, upon launching, 5.5.2b3 will prompt you to choose which folder you want to use; It did not. It just used the usual folder. Hmm, I always drag the app to the PM folder after renaming the old version -- just in case. Leopard compatibility - PowerMail is now compatible with developer builds of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard on Intel Macs, and uses the latest version of SSL contained in the OS Should it work on PPC too? Certainly should. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ... -- Subject: Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:07:06 -0500 T.L. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-29 23:15 said: Leopard compatibility - PowerMail is now compatible with developer builds of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard on Intel Macs, and uses the latest version of SSL
powermail-discuss Digest #2522 - 12/02/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2522 - Saturday, December 2, 2006 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dups by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Dups by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Dups by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:26:32 -0500 PM about box, if you keep calling it up, you will end up with many about boxes on top of each other :-) -Hiro -- Subject: Dups From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:37:46 -0500 Out of blue, PM5.5.2b3 started to download hundreds of mails those which are already downloaded. This happened on only one account, and this is not the first time but the server PM does this is not consistent. Of course this can be unfortunate even on the server, but I was looking for the way to list all the duplications and delete the ones that doesn't have 'still on server' icon. Since most of the mails a re already organized in folders, this has been extremely time consuming task. Any help appreciated. -Hiro -- Subject: Re: Dups From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:51:44 + On Sat, Dec 2, 2006 at 5:37 pm -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Out of blue, PM5.5.2b3 started to download hundreds of mails those which are already downloaded. This happened on only one account, and this is not the first time but the server PM does this is not consistent. Of course this can be unfortunate even on the server, but I was looking for the way to list all the duplications and delete the ones that doesn't have 'still on server' icon. Since most of the mails a re already organized in folders, this has been extremely time consuming task. Would the 'date saved' column be any use as a search parameter? -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.1 (build 4465) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 640MB RAM -- Subject: Re: Dups From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 13:15:28 -0500 Tim Hodgson / 2006/12/02 / 12:51 PM wrote: Would the 'date saved' column be any use as a search parameter? You mean Data Sent, I guess? Unfortunately no, coz the original ones are no longer in the Inbox :-( If I search by Date Sent in entire database, the result will be overwhelming, too. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2523 - 12/03/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2523 - Sunday, December 3, 2006 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Dups by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Dups by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Tom Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Tom Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:02:49 -0800 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until December 6, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- Subject: Re: Dups From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 20:10:03 + On Sat, Dec 2, 2006 at 6:15 pm -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Tim Hodgson / 2006/12/02 / 12:51 PM wrote: Would the 'date saved' column be any use as a search parameter? You mean Data Sent, I guess? Unfortunately no, coz the original ones are no longer in the Inbox :-( If I search by Date Sent in entire database, the result will be overwhelming, too. No, I meant date saved - the time the message arrived at your Mac (see View options to enable it). -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.1 (build 4465) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 640MB RAM -- Subject: Re: Dups From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:06:52 -0500 Tim Hodgson / 2006/12/02 / 03:10 PM wrote: No, I meant date saved - the time the message arrived at your Mac (see View options to enable it). Not sure what you mean. The dups are all appearing in the in box as newly Saved. They are the ones I need to keep because they are the ones currently on the server, while the original ones 'server status' has been off as soon as the dups arrived, those which I need to remove from the database. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- Subject: Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug From: Tom Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:11:59 -0700 A-NO-NE Music sez: PM about box, if you keep calling it up, you will end up with many about boxes on top of each other :-) It's not a bug. It's there to allow you to see the Japanese localization credit over and over. -- -- Tom Dillon900 S. Coors Dr. DataCraft Lakewood, CO 80228 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 720/962-4880 -- Smart is knowing which way to look when crossing a one way street. Wise is looking both ways anyway. --- Sunastar -- -- Subject: Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 14:06:54 +0100 Am/On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:11:59 -0700 schrieb/wrote Tom Dillon: A-NO-NE Music sez: PM about box, if you keep calling it up, you will end up with many about boxes on top of each other :-) It's not a bug. It's there to allow you to see the Japanese localization credit over and over. i don't see any Japanese localization . btw, I don't experience this behavior. All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905 --- -- Subject: Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug From: Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:32:13 + Matthias Schmidt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Sun, 3 Dec 2006 14:06:54 +0100 Am/On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:11:59 -0700 schrieb/wrote Tom Dillon: A-NO-NE Music sez: PM about box, if you keep calling it up, you will end up with many about boxes on top of each other :-) It's not a bug. It's there to allow you to see the Japanese localization credit over and over. i don't see any Japanese localization . btw, I don't experience this behavior. I do. AFAIK it's always done this. -- Derry
powermail-discuss Digest #2524 - 12/04/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2524 - Monday, December 4, 2006 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug by Tom Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 11:00:26 -0800 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until December 6, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- Subject: Re: 5.5.2b3 About Box Bug From: Tom Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:23:57 -0700 Matthias Schmidt sez: do you ? if so, press any-key :-D Unfortunately, I don't speak Japanese, so when I hit the Any key, this reply was deleted... -- -- Tom Dillon900 S. Coors Dr. DataCraft Lakewood, CO 80228 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 720/962-4880 -- Those that only see in black and white lose their way when they find themselves in gray areas. --- Sunastar -- -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - 12/05/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - Tuesday, December 5, 2006 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help! by Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Help! by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:02:34 -0800 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until December 6, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- Subject: Help! From: Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:59:42 -0500 Help! With OS 9.2.2 and PM 4.2.1 can't get attachments to open, nor can I drag them to the hard drive; they drag as unopenable clippings. This goes for Word and pityures. I've reinstalled. Any suggestions? Bill Stecher -- Subject: Re: Help! From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:15:56 +0100 Am/On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:59:42 -0500 schrieb/wrote Bill Stecher: Help! With OS 9.2.2 and PM 4.2.1 can't get attachments to open, nor can I drag them to the hard drive; they drag as unopenable clippings. This goes for Word and pityures. I've reinstalled. Any suggestions? Bill Stecher Bill, how does your Attachments folder look like? It should be in your PowerMail Files folder. What happens, when you let show the attachment in the Finder? Could it be that your attachments are only partly downloaded or do you use IMAP? All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905 --- -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - 12/06/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - Wednesday, December 6, 2006 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - 12/05/06 by Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Help! by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] New for PowerMail by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New for PowerMail by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New for PowerMail by Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): New for PowerMail by Christopher Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New for PowerMail by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:02:13 -0800 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until December 6, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - 12/05/06 From: Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:17:54 -0500 powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - Tuesday, December 5, 2006 Subject: Re: Help! From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:15:56 +0100 Am/On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:59:42 -0500 schrieb/wrote Bill Stecher: Help! With OS 9.2.2 and PM 4.2.1 can't get attachments to open, nor can I drag them to the hard drive; they drag as unopenable clippings. This goes for Word and pityures. I've reinstalled. Any suggestions? Bill Stecher Bill, how does your Attachments folder look like? It should be in your PowerMail Files folder. What happens, when you let show the attachment in the Finder? Could it be that your attachments are only partly downloaded or do you use IMAP? All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905 --- -- End of powermail-discuss Digest Dear Matthias: I've got an empty attachments folder in the Powermail Files folder in the Powermail folder. I dragged it over from an old copy. It also doesn't bold unread messages. ??...Thanx...Bill -- Subject: Re: Help! From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:58:41 +0100 Am/On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:17:54 -0500 schrieb/wrote Bill Stecher: I've got an empty attachments folder in the Powermail Files folder in the Powermail folder. I dragged it over from an old copy. It also doesn't bold unread messages. ??...Thanx...Bill Please change your subject line, while replying to a digest. then you should check the settings for your attachments folder in the preferences pane. Something seams to be wrong with your set up. All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905 --- -- Subject: New for PowerMail From: Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:04:17 -0800 Sidewinder now supports PowerMail. Has anyone tried it? Is it worth $19.95? http://www.sidewinderx.com/Welcome.html Richard Hart -- Subject: Re: New for PowerMail From: Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:22:15 -0600 (GMT-06:00) I haven't used Sidewinder, but I use SpamX and it works great. If there is any downside, reporting open relays, and worms to ISPs rarely seems to make a dent in the amount of SPAM. Most of the SPAM today are worms that Windows folks are running without knowing it. A recent EU study said that nearly 80% of the traffic in the EU was SPAM. I find that very troublesome. I can upgrade to sidewinderx for $10, since I own SpamX, so I might just do this. This way it removes one of the steps I have to manually perform. Wayne -Original Message- From: Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 6, 2006 11:04 AM To: PowerMail Discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Subject: New for PowerMail Sidewinder now supports PowerMail. Has anyone tried it? Is it worth $19.95? http://www.sidewinderx.com/Welcome.html Richard Hart -- Subject: Re: New for PowerMail From: Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:22:17 -0600 I have been looking at the big brother to it, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.emailcrx.com/Welcome.html What looks cool about it is that you can block by countries. For example, I don't think I will ever get a legitimate email from Czechoslovakia or Russia, so I can block those countries and stop 20% of my spam immediately. Good luck, Justin On Dec
powermail-discuss Digest #2527 - 12/07/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2527 - Thursday, December 7, 2006 little orange and yellow dots by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - 12/06/06 by Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: little orange and yellow dots by Pat O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: little orange and yellow dots by Tim Lapin (sympatico) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): little orange and yellow dots by Pat O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: little orange and yellow dots by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] opening first aid by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: opening first aid by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): opening first aid by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: opening first aid by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): opening first aid by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(3): opening first aid by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: opening first aid by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: little orange and yellow dots From: Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:58:52 -0800 Hi, And now for something completely picky... As I edit new emails, especially longer ones (say, starting with a large amount of pasted text) little dots appear at the far left of the text input area, just before or touching the 1st text column. -- here :-) Sometimes 1 dot, sometimes 2. Looks like kind of like debugging info. They disappear if you resize the window. How come? Bruce -- Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.earthreflections.com -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - 12/06/06 From: Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:24:21 -0500 powermail-discuss Digest #2526 - Wednesday, December 6, 2006 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - 12/05/06 by Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Help! by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] New for PowerMail by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New for PowerMail by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New for PowerMail by Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): New for PowerMail by Christopher Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New for PowerMail by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:02:13 -0800 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until December 6, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - 12/05/06 From: Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:17:54 -0500 powermail-discuss Digest #2525 - Tuesday, December 5, 2006 Subject: Re: Help! From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:15:56 +0100 Am/On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:59:42 -0500 schrieb/wrote Bill Stecher: Help! With OS 9.2.2 and PM 4.2.1 can't get attachments to open, nor can I drag them to the hard drive; they drag as unopenable clippings. This goes for Word and pityures. I've reinstalled. Any suggestions? Bill Stecher Bill, how does your Attachments folder look like? It should be in your PowerMail Files folder. What happens, when you let show the attachment in the Finder? Could it be that your attachments are only partly downloaded or do you use IMAP? All the best Matthias Problem solved. What was happening was that the attachments were being transferred to an invisible folder on the hard drive. Norton 8 fixed it! Thanks! Merry Christmas...Bill Stecher -- Subject: Re: little orange and yellow dots From: Pat O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:31:52 + It appears that on 6/12/06 at 19:58 Bruce Barrett spake thus: Hi, And now for something completely picky... As I edit new emails, especially longer ones (say, starting with a large amount of pasted text) little dots appear at the far left of the text input area, just before or touching the 1st text column. -- here :-) Sometimes 1 dot, sometimes 2. Looks like kind of like debugging info. They disappear if you resize the window. How come? Bruce I don't know but they've been there for years and through many versions. I posted to the list about them some time ago. Cheers -- Pat O'Halloran http://www.danu.co.uk TB or not TB, that is the congestion - Woody Allen -- Subject: Re: little orange and yellow dots From: Tim Lapin (sympatico) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006
powermail-discuss Digest #2528 - 12/08/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2528 - Friday, December 8, 2006 Re: First Aid by Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: opening first aid by Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): First Aid by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Subject by Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: First Aid From: Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:40:08 -0800 Hiro, are you using version 5.5.1 of PM and are you able to open the first aid window? Anyone else not able to open the first aid window under 5.5.1 (OS X 10.4.8) ? ---marlyse I'm on 5.5.1 and it is not a problem. In fact, like you, I got the bold In Tray with nothing in it. I am able to invoke the first aid by holding down Cmd+Opt BEFORE even launching PM from the Dock (i.e., clicking on the Dock icon) with no problems. --Ira -- Subject: Re: opening first aid From: Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:20:58 -0600 This is really weird. I just installed the latest Power Mail and i have no trouble at all getting into First Aid. I just hold down the OPT CMD keys and click on Power mail and i get the First Aid box. Maybe i am accidently doing something right. i am running a G4 667Mhz with 1 Gb memory Gerry -- The faster the computer The more impatient the user heh, I hear you. the thing which I do not understand is why now suddenly I should not be able to do it but never had problems in the past - did the timing margin then change to such an extent? even if it did, I really did try every 1/10 of a second variation (it's all the time I have between clicking and having PM open) and still no go... but if I still am missing just the right moment, it is more than odd and definitely shouldn't be that hard... and never was, well, I'll go practicing until somebody else confirms that this is a problem with the latest PM version. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - Marlyse Comte / 2006/12/06 / 09:26 PM wrote: aha! ... or so I thought. but I tried it with delay and still no go, PM opens each and every time without opening the first aid dialog box. it IS opt+command or did that change? It's still Opt+Cmd. Trust me. You are in a tight timing margin. It needs practice :-) -- - Hiro -- Subject: Re(2): First Aid From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 19:14:17 -0600 thanks guys, it must be obviously something on my system. odd, and I will need to ponder a possible solution to fix it. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - Hiro, are you using version 5.5.1 of PM and are you able to open the first aid window? Anyone else not able to open the first aid window under 5.5.1 (OS X 10.4.8) ? ---marlyse I'm on 5.5.1 and it is not a problem. In fact, like you, I got the bold In Tray with nothing in it. I am able to invoke the first aid by holding down Cmd+Opt BEFORE even launching PM from the Dock (i.e., clicking on the Dock icon) with no problems. --Ira -- Subject: No Subject From: Bill Stecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:38:39 -0500 I forget how to get the addresses I want to come up when I press the space bar, and how to get rid of those who are there. Can anyone help me? Bill Stecher -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2529 - 12/12/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2529 - Tuesday, December 12, 2006 PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages by Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:12:52 -0700 My PM 5 has always been set to delete emails from the server 5 days after downloading. The Retrieve messages left on server again box is unchecked. I downloaded and installed 5.2.2 yesterday and it seemed to download my mail OK. But just now it downloaded 526 old email messages dating back several months. It has taken me an hour to get trash them all again and I suspect I have trashed some file I wanted to keep. Almost all of these old emails should have been deleted from my ISP's server long ago. Why were they still there? Anyone else had this problem? Regards, Frank -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona. PPC dual G4 (mirror door) 867 MHz, Mac OS 10.3.9, 768 MB, 60 GB -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2530 - 12/13/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2530 - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 Re: Downloading old messages by Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Sound still disappears from PM by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Sound still disappears from PM by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Sound still disappears from PM by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Downloading old messages From: Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:45:20 -0800 Not when I changed over to 5.2.2. --Ira Subject: PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:12:52 -0700 My PM 5 has always been set to delete emails from the server 5 days after downloading. The Retrieve messages left on server again box is unchecked. I downloaded and installed 5.2.2 yesterday and it seemed to download my mail OK. But just now it downloaded 526 old email messages dating back several months. It has taken me an hour to get trash them all again and I suspect I have trashed some file I wanted to keep. Almost all of these old emails should have been deleted from my ISP's server long ago. Why were they still there? Anyone else had this problem? Regards, Frank -- Subject: Re: Sound still disappears from PM From: Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:01:40 + I'm thinking that the problem might be originating with iChat. I just restarted iChat and I think that it reinstated the sound alerts. I say *think* because I hadn't asked Powermail to do anything that would generate a sound for a while, so it might have gotten its sounds back earlier. But iChat is top candidate right now. My iChat has the Chax modifier applied to it, anyone else? Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode Shark Attack: A Design Studio www.sharkattack.co.uk -- Original message: Received from Peter Baral on 25/11/06 at 09:13 Exactly the same symptoms here, except that I'm using Apple Mail instead of PowerMail. So it seems to be unrelated to PowerMail. I guess that the sounds are gone on sleep/wake up. All sounds are back on restart of the Mac. Just reinstalled the Mac OS X 10.4.8 COMBO Update and sounds are back for the last day or so. Hope this solves this issue -- Subject: Re: Sound still disappears from PM From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:26:22 + On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 13:01 +, Rick Lecoat wrote: I'm thinking that the problem might be originating with iChat. Not here; I've never used iChat. But my symptoms are different from yours anyway - IIRC all your system sounds disappear along with PM's. That doesn't happen here. -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 640MB RAM -- Subject: Re: Sound still disappears from PM From: Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:49:11 + Yeah, all my alert sounds. 'Played' sounds, eg iTunes and QT, still function normally, as do the feedback sounds when changing volume with the keyboard -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode Shark Attack: A Design Studio www.sharkattack.co.uk -- Original message: Received from Tim Hodgson on 13/12/06 at 13:26 Not here; I've never used iChat. But my symptoms are different from yours anyway - IIRC all your system sounds disappear along with PM's. That doesn't happen here. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2531 - 12/17/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2531 - Sunday, December 17, 2006 Re: Downloading old messages by Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Multi Message Databases by Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] En vacances by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multi Message Databases by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Downloading old messages From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:52:42 -0700 Hello Ira, Do you mean it did happen to you before you went to 5.2.2? The only time it happened to me was after I went to 5.2.2 But it hasn't occurred since so I guess I'll never know the reason now. Just was one of those things Frank Not when I changed over to 5.2.2. --Ira Subject: PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:12:52 -0700 My PM 5 has always been set to delete emails from the server 5 days after downloading. The Retrieve messages left on server again box is unchecked. I downloaded and installed 5.2.2 yesterday and it seemed to download my mail OK. But just now it downloaded 526 old email messages dating back several months. It has taken me an hour to get trash them all again and I suspect I have trashed some file I wanted to keep. Almost all of these old emails should have been deleted from my ISP's server long ago. Why were they still there? Anyone else had this problem? -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona -- Subject: Multi Message Databases From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:52:42 -0700 In my PM 5.5.2 folder there are three files... Message Database Message Database 2 Message Database 3 Are all these necessary or can I delete two of them? Thanks, Frank -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona -- Subject: En vacances From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:57:30 +0100 Je suis en vacances jusqu'au 30/12/2006 Pour tout message urgent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Multi Message Databases From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:09:53 +0100 Frank Mitchell wrote: In my PM 5.5.2 folder there are three files... Message Database Message Database 2 Message Database 3 Are all these necessary or can I delete two of them? Only one is used. Verify the modification date, but the one used by PowerMail should be Message Database. I don't know where does the other come from, but you can probably delete them. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I wouldn't trade my MAC for anything, neither would I trade PowerMail for anything. Steve Tarpin, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2532 - 12/18/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2532 - Monday, December 18, 2006 Re: Multi Message Databases by Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Multi Messages by Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Duplicate content, different message-ID by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] sending email at a specific date and time. by George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: sending email at a specific date and time. by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Duplicate content, different message-ID by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: sending email at a specific date and time. by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Multi Message Databases From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:36:35 -0700 Hello Jerome In my PM 5.5.2 folder there are three files... Message Database Message Database 2 Message Database 3 Are all these necessary or can I delete two of them? Only one is used. Verify the modification date, but the one used by PowerMail should be Message Database. I don't know where does the other come from, but you can probably delete them. Message Database has a mod date of Today (of course) Message Databases 2 and 3 both have the same mod dates and times (Dec 14, 2006) So I think the last date may be when I used the first five maintenance activities under PowerMail First Aid. Databases 2 and 3 are now deleted. I have also deleted the Old Format Database folder (Dec 10) presumably created when I upgraded to 5.5.2 Thanks, Jerome, Frank -- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona -- Subject: Multi Messages From: Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:55:19 -0800 It did happen once before 5.2.2, but may have been a function of my spam filter more than PM. It has not happened any other time before or since. --Ira Subject: Re: Downloading old messages From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:52:42 -0700 Hello Ira, Do you mean it did happen to you before you went to 5.2.2? The only time it happened to me was after I went to 5.2.2 But it hasn't occurred since so I guess I'll never know the reason now. Just was one of those things Frank -- Subject: Duplicate content, different message-ID From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:04:57 +0100 I'm getting several messages on at least 2 accounts since some time that appear to be the exact same content, but yet they have different ESMTP ID's, message-ID's and Received Date differs with one second only. I don't see how this could be a PowerMail problem. Anyone have a theory on what could be going on serverside? PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- Subject: sending email at a specific date and time. From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:40:26 -0800 Is it possible to have PowerMail send a completed email at a specific future date and time rather than sending it immediately? If so, how can I get it to do that? -- Subject: Re: sending email at a specific date and time. From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:14:48 +0100 Am/On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:40:26 -0800 schrieb/wrote George: Is it possible to have PowerMail send a completed email at a specific future date and time rather than sending it immediately? If so, how can I get it to do that? you could achieve that with AppleScript, I guess. All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905 --- -- Subject: Re: Duplicate content, different message-ID From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:18:58 +0100 Am/On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:04:57 +0100 schrieb/wrote Mikael Byström: I'm getting several messages on at least 2 accounts since some time that appear to be the exact same content, but yet they have different ESMTP ID's, message-ID's and Received Date differs with one second only. I don't see how this could be a PowerMail problem. Anyone have a theory on what could be going on serverside? it's probably a timeout-problem on the receiving server. The receiving server doesn't confirm the mail the first time, because of a time out. Then it gets it again and then he confirms What kind of mailserver is there running? Maybe you can increase the timeout in the config file. All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905
powermail-discuss Digest #2533 - 12/19/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2533 - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 Anti Aliasing by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy Holidays! by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Happy Holidays! by Karsten Liere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Happy Holidays! by marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Happy Holidays! by marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Anti Aliasing by Jeremy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Anti Aliasing by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Anti Aliasing by Jeremy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Happy Holidays! by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Anti Aliasing by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Anti Aliasing by Jeremy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Anti Aliasing From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:51:37 -0500 I don't like Anti Aliasing especially it makes difficult to identify complex Kanji. One of the Apple engineers wanted to file a bug on this and asked me to make a report. As the first time in a long while, I turned Anti Aliasing on. Surprisingly, Tiger has improved on it drastically. Some of the apps I help L10N does look much nicer. But PM is rather terrible. Everything is harder to read. - Text became dim - Unable to identify bold and normal which is a big problem - The infamous orange dots dancing (first time I saw it) The message body is bulky Courier font, and for the life of me I can't find the way to change it as well as its display size. Forgive me if this has been discussed before. I never suffered from it until I turned Anti Aliasing on. For the list font, I am using the default system font, Lucida Grande. I can't tell which folder is bold. Am I the only one having this problem? - Hiro -- Subject: Happy Holidays! From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:22:09 -0500 Happy Holidays! Seasonal Music For You: http://a-no-ne.com/music/xmas/ Hope you enjoy :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- Subject: Re: Happy Holidays! From: Karsten Liere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:49:58 +0100 Dear Hiro, As every year - Thank You so much! Happy Holidays! Karsten Happy Holidays! Seasonal Music For You: http://a-no-ne.com/music/xmas/ Hope you enjoy :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- Subject: Re: Happy Holidays! From: marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:00:25 +0100 Karsten Liere 19-12-06: As every year... yes, we were all waiting for you hiro ;-) ciao from italy -- marco -- Subject: Re: Happy Holidays! From: marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:15:19 +0100 Karsten Liere 19-12-06: As every year... yes, we were all waiting for you hiro ;-) ciao from italy -- marco -- Subject: Re: Anti Aliasing From: Jeremy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:19:32 + A-NO-NE Music (18/12/06 23:51) said: The message body is bulky Courier font, and for the life of me I can't find the way to change it as well as its display size. 1. Go to Preferences/Display 2. Choose a font and size for each script (I have Helvetica 16 for Roman). Jeremy -- Subject: Re: Anti Aliasing From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:40:28 -0500 Jeremy Hughes / 2006/12/19 / 06:19 AM wrote: 1. Go to Preferences/Display 2. Choose a font and size for each script (I have Helvetica 16 for Roman). D'oh! How come I didn't see I had to chose each script! Thank you so much, Jeremy. Does anyone have any comment about bold/normal distinction problem with anti aliasing turned on? -- - Hiro -- Subject: Re: Anti Aliasing From: Jeremy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:00:15 + A-NO-NE Music (19/12/06 14:40) said: Does anyone have any comment about bold/normal distinction problem with anti aliasing turned on? I don't have a problem with this: I'm using Verdana 14 pt for lists, and the bold/normal distinction is very clear. Jeremy -- Subject: Re: Happy Holidays! From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:02:03 -0500 marco osti / 2006/12/19 / 05:00 AM wrote: Karsten Liere 19-12-06: As every year... yes, we were all waiting for
powermail-discuss Digest #2534 - 12/20/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2534 - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 Re: Anti Aliasing by Mark S. P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Anti Aliasing From: Mark S. P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:51:15 +0900 At Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:51:37 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I don't like Anti Aliasing especially it makes difficult to identify complex Kanji. One of the Apple engineers wanted to file a bug on this and asked me to make a report. As the first time in a long while, I turned Anti Aliasing on. Silly question. Where is the Anti Aliasing option? Surprisingly, Tiger has improved on it drastically. Some of the apps I help L10N does look much nicer. But PM is rather terrible. Everything is harder to read. - Text became dim - Unable to identify bold and normal which is a big problem - The infamous orange dots dancing (first time I saw it) Not seeing these problems here. (In particular, bold and normal are distinguishable.) For the list font, I am using the default system font, Lucida Grande. I can't tell which folder is bold. Am I the only one having this problem? I am using Verdana. It displays Japanese titles OK here. The difference between bold and normal is OK for Japanese text, although it is even more obvious for romanized parts of the list, such as date and size. HTH Mark Smith -- Check out what I have been listening to: http://www.last.fm/user/red_orca -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2535 - 12/21/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2535 - Thursday, December 21, 2006 Re: sending email at a specific date and time. by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] re: PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Anti Aliasing by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: sending email at a specific date and time. From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:45:23 +0100 Wayne Brissette sa såhär: cron and AppleScript And using Cron is made more simple with Cronnix: http://h5197.serverkompetenz.net:9080/abstracture_public/projects-en/ cronnix/ PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- Subject: re: PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:46:48 +0100 Subject: PM 5.2.2 downloading old messages From: Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:12:52 -0700 My PM 5 has always been set to delete emails from the server 5 days after downloading. The Retrieve messages left on server again box is unchecked. I downloaded and installed 5.2.2 yesterday and it seemed to download my mail OK. But just now it downloaded 526 old email messages dating back several months. It has taken me an hour to get trash them all again and I suspect I have trashed some file I wanted to keep. Almost all of these old emails should have been deleted from my ISP's server long ago. Why were they still there? Anyone else had this problem? I've had this problem for years on several accounts. I have a script, DeleteDups 0.9, available on demand that will help delete duplicates, saving you lots of work in a situation like this. PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- Subject: Re: Anti Aliasing From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:02:59 +0100 Mark S. P. Smith sa såhär: Silly question. Where is the Anti Aliasing option? System preferences - Personal Appearance at the bottom of the panel. I think the latter is the proper english name, but you'll find it either way. PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2536 - 12/22/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2536 - Friday, December 22, 2006 Re: sending email at a specific date and time. by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: sending email at a specific date and time. by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: sending email at a specific date and time. by George [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: sending email at a specific date and time. From: Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:19:26 -0600 On 12/18/06 at 11:32 AM, Wayne Brissette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: you could achieve that with AppleScript, I guess. Actually you would probably be best served by a combo of cron and AppleScript. This is how I created a ton of automatic email messages that were sent from Apple Support. I think the real thing here is that this would be a great feature - think of it as a Feature Request. I know it's not the first time I've heard it asked for, and referring users to a combination of AppleScript, cron, chewing gum and paste isn't very... mainstream. IMO, it should be a feature, and I think it'd be a killer one at that. Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: sending email at a specific date and time. From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:51:37 + On 12/18/06 at 11:32 AM, Wayne Brissette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: you could achieve that with AppleScript, I guess. Actually you would probably be best served by a combo of cron and AppleScript. This is how I created a ton of automatic email messages that were sent from Apple Support. Or for a slightly more user-friendly experience (where user != unix geek), you could use iCal to schedule the AppleScript. -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 640MB RAM -- Subject: Re: sending email at a specific date and time. From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:53:05 -0800 On 12/18/06 at 11:32 AM, Wayne Brissette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: you could achieve that with AppleScript, I guess. Actually you would probably be best served by a combo of cron and AppleScript. This is how I created a ton of automatic email messages that were sent from Apple Support. I think the real thing here is that this would be a great feature - think of it as a Feature Request. I know it's not the first time I've heard it asked for, and referring users to a combination of AppleScript, cron, chewing gum and paste isn't very... mainstream. IMO, it should be a feature, and I think it'd be a killer one at that. Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You Steve! Yes that would be a feature that I'd very much like to have. Guess I'm stupid, but I don't know how to Applescript, cron, etc..., I use software, I can't develop it. Happy Holidays, George -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2537 - 12/26/06
powermail-discuss Digest #2537 - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 Applescript question by Bill Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Applescript question From: Bill Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:08:08 -0500 Can someone suggest an AppleScript to copy mail items from the Inbox on an IMAP server to a specific local folder? BILL. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2538 - 01/02/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2538 - Tuesday, January 2, 2007 Newbie Query (Display of soft-wrapped text) by Steve Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Newbie Query (Display of soft-wrapped text) From: Steve Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:42:47 + I am currently evaluating PowerMail and one issue that keeps coming up in my evaluation is that occasionally (ironically most often with messages from the Mailsmith-talk digest) will come through showing an =20 character at the end of each soft-wrapped line. Hard-wrapped lines are fine. Is there anyway to fix this within powerMail? Regards, Steve Hodgson -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2539 - 01/03/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2539 - Wednesday, January 3, 2007 Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) by Steve Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet another dumb question by George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Newbie Query (Display of soft-wrapped text) by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: yet another dumb question by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: yet another dumb question by George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: yet another dumb question by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: yet another dumb question by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: yet another dumb question by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: yet another dumb question by George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: yet another dumb question by George [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) From: Steve Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:03:06 + Apologies for what may be very trivial questions. I am currently evaluating PowerMail and occasionally finding a few problems along with a great many things I like. I've tried find a way to manually delete attachments from outgoing messages (they normal exist somewhere already) but had no luck despite searching this list and Google. Any help would be welcome. -- Regards, Steve Hodgson -- Subject: Re: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) From: Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:56:19 -0600 I've tried find a way to manually delete attachments from outgoing messages (they normal exist somewhere already) but had no luck despite searching this list and Google. Any help would be welcome. Leave them. All attachments are simply linked to the original and aren't added to the database. For example, if you attached a photo that was on your desktop called picture 1.png to a message, when you look at it in the Out Tray, it displays an attachment icon. If you click once on the item, then hold down the control key, you'll notice you have options for Open Attachment, Show in Finder, and Get Finder Info. If you Show in Finder, it pops you out to the item on your desktop. Now, go back to the Out Tray, drag the item from the message and place it into the trash. Now, Open up a finder window and look on the desktop for picture 1.png, you won't find it because it is now in the trash. So you really don't have to delete them if your trying to keep your database small because they aren't in your database. Hope this helps. Wayne -- Somebody's dead forever... - Somebody Got Murdered -- Joe Strummer (1952-2002) -- Subject: Re: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) From: Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:28:40 -0800 Hi Steve, Click on the enclosure (to select) and press the delete key, upper- right of the keyboard. Sometimes it's the simple things... Bruce -- Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com As Steve Hodgson wrote... Apologies for what may be very trivial questions. I am currently evaluating PowerMail and occasionally finding a few problems along with a great many things I like. I've tried find a way to manually delete attachments from outgoing messages (they normal exist somewhere already) but had no luck despite searching this list and Google. Any help would be welcome. -- Regards, Steve Hodgson -- Subject: Re: Newbie Query #3 (Deleting Attachments) From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:36:04 -0600 not exactly clear what the problem is. situation 1 : you have an outgoing message and added an attachment and now realize you do not want to send the attachment but only the email but you want to keep the attachment on your hard drive (for later use). solution : select the attachment in the email at the bottom of the email and hit delete (yes, the keyboard key DELETE). situation 2 : you have an outgoing message and added an attachment and now want to send the email without the attachment but at the same time also want to delete the attachment from your drive. solution : control-click the attachment at the bottom of the email and select reveal in finder - now you will have a finder window open and reveal the item on your hard drive. move it to the trash. select the attachment at the bottom of the email and hit DELETE (yes,
powermail-discuss Digest #2540 - 01/06/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2540 - Saturday, January 6, 2007 How to set up Growl? by Vince Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: How to set up Growl? From: Vince Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:52:36 + Can anyone please point me at ways to set up Growl and PowerMail? I have SpamSieve talking to Growl but I'd rather have some more info from Powermail. I would also like CTM Dev to consider adding Growl functionality in the next release. Any thoughts from anyone else? Thanks Vince -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2541 - 01/07/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2541 - Sunday, January 7, 2007 Re: How to set up Growl? by Koen Beerens [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: How to set up Growl? From: Koen Beerens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:12:13 +0100 On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:52:36 +, Vince Smith wrote: Can anyone please point me at ways to set up Growl and PowerMail? I have SpamSieve talking to Growl but I'd rather have some more info from Powermail. I would also like CTM Dev to consider adding Growl functionality in the next release. Any thoughts from anyone else? Thanks Vince A script is included in the extras folder (on the growl install disk image). So you can trigger a filter and call the applescript. Create a new filter and use for incoming always, for the filter, 'execute applescript' and thats it. -- Best Regards, Koen Macintosh for productivity. UNIX flavors for servers. Palm/Visor for mobility. Windows to feed the Black Hole in your IT budget. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2542 - 01/10/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2542 - Wednesday, January 10, 2007 how to trigger sync by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: how to trigger sync by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: how to trigger sync From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:42:35 -0600 finally got around cleaning up my apple address-book. powermail updated nicely and has all email addresses and reflects changes to the address- book just fine. but powermail has about 30 more email addresses than my apple address-book and I can't seem to trigger to have the address-book update - even though all options are enabled in the pm preferences. is there any other way than exporting the pm address-book and then manually importing into the apple address-book and then wading through all the duplicates to find the 30 missing ones? thanks, ---marlyse -- Subject: Re: how to trigger sync From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:03:32 -0600 nevermind - obviously the way to do this IS to go via the export option and then it exports directly into the apple addressbook. but there is still a discrepancy - actually, just about 100 addresses less in powermail than in the apple application and of those 100 there are 10 addresses missing in powermail in the group folder which corresponds to the apple smart group called email which I mainly rely on. any idea how to get them fully mirrored? ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - finally got around cleaning up my apple address-book. powermail updated nicely and has all email addresses and reflects changes to the address- book just fine. but powermail has about 30 more email addresses than my apple address-book and I can't seem to trigger to have the address-book update - even though all options are enabled in the pm preferences. is there any other way than exporting the pm address-book and then manually importing into the apple address-book and then wading through all the duplicates to find the 30 missing ones? thanks, ---marlyse -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2543 - 01/11/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2543 - Thursday, January 11, 2007 Tardy SpamSieve by Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Tardy SpamSieve by marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: How to set up Growl? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Tardy SpamSieve From: Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:02:04 -0600 I remember covering this once before, but, alas, I've forgotten the answer. SpamSeive, which resides in my App folder (almost always has) does not start up with PM, nowadays. How did I get it going before? I guess I could always add it to my startup items. Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Tardy SpamSieve From: marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:46:28 +0100 Anthony Sanna 11-01-07: SpamSeive, which resides in my App folder (almost always has) does not start up with PM, nowadays open pm than try to launch spamsieve manually. it should be necessary just once. -- marco -- Subject: Re: How to set up Growl? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:00:31 +0100 Le 6/01/07 à 22:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : A script is included in the extras folder (on the growl install disk image). So you can trigger a filter and call the applescript. Create a new filter and use for incoming always, for the filter, 'execute applescript' and thats it. Hi, I just installed Growl and the PM script. I made some corrections to the script, as found in some places on the internet (among other, this list archives ...). The result is : I can see in Console that Growl receives the commands from PM (registering, message), but I never see a single bubble or whatever appear on the screen ... Maybe it's a Growl problem, I tried many things, but didn't found the way. Any advice ? Thank you, Stéphane. PM 5.5.2, Growl 0.7.6, mosx 10.4.8 on a brand new iMac 20, thank you Pere Noel ! -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2544 - 01/12/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2544 - Friday, January 12, 2007 Re: How to set up Growl? by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: How to set up Growl? by Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: How to set up Growl? From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:17:46 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-01-11 13:00 said: I just installed Growl and the PM script. I made some corrections to the script, as found in some places on the internet (among other, this list archives ...). The result is : I can see in Console that Growl receives the commands from PM (registering, message), but I never see a single bubble or whatever appear on the screen ... Maybe it's a Growl problem, I tried many things, but didn't found the way. Any advice ? I had a hell of a time too, I forget how I got it working. Did you check this list's archives, the answer should be there. Sean -- attack begets defence, whereas courtesy begets respect -- Subject: Re: How to set up Growl? From: Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 07:42:25 -0600 here's what my older, but working, script is: CODE tell application PowerMail -- this script offers rudimentary use of Growl: [url]http:// growl.info[/url] -- At the time of writing, Growl is at version 0.5 -- See the site for more info about Growl, the global notification system for OS X. -- Cobbled together by Robert Black ([url]http:// www.robertblack.com.au[/url]), based on an example script -- included with PowerMail. -- PowerMail info: [url]http://www.ctmdev.com/[/url] -- To use this script, you must first have Growl installed. See [url] http://growl.info/downloads.php[/url] -- Next, copy this script to ~/Mail/PowerMail Files/Custom Scripts/ Growl.scpt -- Then in PowerMail set up a Filter with an Execute AppleScript action, and choose Growl -- If Growl isn't in the list of scripts, quit and relaunch PowerMail -- Now, when one or more emails arrive, which match your filter's Conditions, Growl will -- display the Sender and Subject of the first email to you. set theMessages to current messages if the number of items of theMessages is 0 then display dialog Error - This is meant to be called by a filter. end if set fl_Simple to true -- In my experience it's not a good idea to repeat this if multiple emails arrive at the same time, -- since the notifications are sequential, but the code's here if you want to try it. -- Just change to set fl_Simple to false repeat with msg in theMessages set s to subject of msg set f to sender of msg set f to display name of f tell application GrowlHelperApp notify title f description s icon of application PowerMail.app end tell if fl_Simple then -- run only with the first message exit repeat end if end repeat end tell /CODE On Jan 11, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Sean McBride wrote: I had a hell of a time too, I forget how I got it working. Did you check this list's archives, the answer should be there. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2545 - 01/16/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2545 - Tuesday, January 16, 2007 Locations and Schedules by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Locations and Schedules From: Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:51:53 -0600 I'm sure this has been discussed before, but is there an easy way to switch Locations and Schedules? I get having a Day schedule that runs from 9-5, and a commute schedule that never checks, and a holiday schedule that checks once a day... but short of going into the setup area for them, clicking on a different one, and saving, isn't there an easier way to change between them? Or better yet, to schedule them?? Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2546 - 01/17/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2546 - Wednesday, January 17, 2007 Re: Locations and Schedules by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Locations and Schedules by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Locations and Schedules From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:13:32 -0600 I used to use an apple script for that, by me it's filed under 'miscellaneous' in the powermails apple script menu. Not sure if it comes by default or a left over from one of the good souls providing this list with special goodies. If you don't see it there, check out the script depository at the powermail website under support = tools. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - I'm sure this has been discussed before, but is there an easy way to switch Locations and Schedules? I get having a Day schedule that runs from 9-5, and a commute schedule that never checks, and a holiday schedule that checks once a day... but short of going into the setup area for them, clicking on a different one, and saving, isn't there an easier way to change between them? Or better yet, to schedule them?? Steve Abrahamson -- Subject: Re: Locations and Schedules From: Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:19:30 -0600 Marlyse, Thanks for pointing me to that - that's definately better than what I was doing. Not as good as it being a simple menu item in the app, with a submenu, like I'd like to see it - but it's better! Thanks, Steve On 1/16/07 at 1:13 PM, Marlyse Comte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: I used to use an apple script for that, by me it's filed under 'miscellaneous' in the powermails apple script menu. Not sure if it comes by default or a left over from one of the good souls providing this list with special goodies. If you don't see it there, check out the script depository at the powermail website under support = tools. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - I'm sure this has been discussed before, but is there an easy way to switch Locations and Schedules? I get having a Day schedule that runs from 9-5, and a commute schedule that never checks, and a holiday schedule that checks once a day... but short of going into the setup area for them, clicking on a different one, and saving, isn't there an easier way to change between them? Or better yet, to schedule them?? Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2547 - 01/19/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2547 - Friday, January 19, 2007 Crash by Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signing up to the list by Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] question about setting default browser for html attachments by Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: question about setting default browser for html attachments by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: question about setting default browser for html attachments by Mark Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Save As Text -- Sort by Date Modified by Zeph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Interface Error by George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read items unchecked by Zeph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Read items unchecked by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Crash From: Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:56:42 + I'm getting a persistent crash when attempting to collect mail. About 5 seconds after the telling me how many emails are available to download PM crashes. I have run all the maintenance procedures from the option-startup list but it makes no difference. I have manually purged the email accounts using webmail - so it's not one particular message. My wife can collect email from the same server so it's not the server. Any ideas on how I should proceed? DMA -- Subject: Signing up to the list From: Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:59:18 + Signing up to the powermail discussion list on this page ... http://www.ctmdev.com/support/ ... just doesn't work. Following the text description of how to sign up manually, does work. That really ought to be fixed. DMA -- Subject: question about setting default browser for html attachments From: Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:27:10 -0500 I'm probably overlooking some obvious setting but I've searched and searched and can't find how to set a default browser for viewing html attachments that I receive. I have a number of browsers on my computer. Using Safari's preferences, I have set the computer's default for Firefox -- If I click on an URL on my desktop, it'll open Firefox to show me the site. However, if someone sends me an attachment and I click on it within PM, it'll use Explorer to open it. I would like PM always to use Firefox. What am I overlooking? If relevant, I have all 3 boxes under HTML Reader in the PM preference window checked (i.e., none is left blank). I use PM version 5.5.2b3, built 4470 on a MacBook Pro using Tiger 10.4.2. Thanks, as always, for your help. Ken -- Subject: Re: question about setting default browser for html attachments From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:57:59 +0100 Ken Pope wrote: I have a number of browsers on my computer. Using Safari's preferences, I have set the computer's default for Firefox -- If I click on an URL on my desktop, it'll open Firefox to show me the site. However, if someone sends me an attachment and I click on it within PM, it'll use Explorer to open it. I would like PM always to use Firefox. Right-click on the attachment, and get Finder's info; set open with to FireFox, then click Change all. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I've never seen any search engine work this fast on this much info before in my life Scott T. Hards, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re: question about setting default browser for html attachments From: Mark Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:06:51 -0500 GWB claims that on 1/18/07 at 4:27 PM the NSA never heard Ken Pope say: However, if someone sends me an attachment and I click on it within PM, it'll use Explorer to open it. I would like PM always to use Firefox. I think if you click on that attachment and then Get Info on it, you can change the application that will open either that file or all files of that type. Mark Mark Gerber GERBER STUDIO/Tradigital Illustration http://www.gerberstudio.com http://www.theispot.com/artist/mgerber -- Subject: Save As Text -- Sort by Date Modified From: Zeph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:45:38 -0800 Greets - I'm surprised my users have never noticed this before... When they select Save As Text, in either v5.2 or v5.5, the Date Modified field of the file dialog does not sort properly when they've selected a folder on the OS X 10.4.x file
powermail-discuss Digest #2548 - 01/23/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2548 - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 [ANN] PowerMail 5.5.3 universal released by CTM info [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: [ANN] PowerMail 5.5.3 universal released From: CTM info [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:56:04 +0100 Greetings. We are pleased to announce the release of PowerMail 5.5.3, available from: http://www.ctmdev.com/download/ POWERMAIL 5.5.3 RELEASE NOTES - JANUARY 22ND, 2007 Fixes and enhancements in PowerMail 5.5.3 Univeral Binary: - A crash could occur when receiving a message with multiple Content-Type header field; such messages are highly illegal in form, but seem to be favored by spammers as of late and have been known to crash earlier versions of PowerMail - A crash could occur when the scripts folder, inside PowerMail's application support folder, was empty - A human readable error is now displayed, instead of an error code, when a POP server closes the connection immediately upon connecting -- - END -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2549 - 01/24/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2549 - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 Odd SMTP error by Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Odd SMTP error From: Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:59:03 +0100 I have recently started getting this message from the smtp server that I use: 'Unexpected error on sasl.smtp.pobox.com Class='NetC',what=1,when=6,err=268435556' Ir arises after the email appears to have been sent (the blue bar is full). PM will generally wait for several minutes before reporting it. Normally the email goes through OK later. I have not had this trouble with my mac.com account although my wife does using PM 4.2.1 (OS 9.2.2). I have raised it with pobox.com which claims that my email logs are normal and suggests that I'm seeing a PM problem. At first glance it is not an ISP problem as I have set my smtp connection to Port 587 and still have problem. I'd appreciate any ideas please. -- Charles PM 5.5.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.7 -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2550 - 01/25/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2550 - Thursday, January 25, 2007 Negative unread messages in the inbox by Robert Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Negative unread messages in the inbox From: Robert Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:06:41 -0500 Hi, In the past two weeks I have started to experience the strangest thing. Having read all the messages in my In Tray, the In Tray will continue to remain bold, and where the number of messages in the box and number of unread messages is shown, it will show something like 933 messages, -3 unread The only way that I can make the -3 unread and the bold In Tray go away is to compact my mailboxes. When that completes, there are no new unread emails in the inbox, and unread and bold are gone. I am using version 5.5 build 4456 on my Intel Macbook Pro with 10.4.8 and 2GB of RAM. Robert Snyder Outreach Technology Services The Pennsylvania State University 151A Outreach Building University Park PA 16802 Phone: 814-865-0912 Fax: 814-865-4406 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2551 - 01/29/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2551 - Monday, January 29, 2007 foxtrot list by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: foxtrot list by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: foxtrot list by Karim Kabbabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Negative unread messages in the inbox by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: foxtrot list by C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: foxtrot list by Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: foxtrot list by Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] greeting card malware? by Mark Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Mark Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: foxtrot list From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:05:46 -0600 I'm wondering about the foxtrot list if that is alive. I'm sure I was subscribed but somehow it seems not and so I re-subscribed today but never received a welcome email etc. and so I'm not sure if the list is up or what... anyone else on that list? ---marlyse -- Subject: Re: foxtrot list From: Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:47:04 -0800 Marlyse Comte wrote: I'm wondering about the foxtrot list if that is alive. I'm sure I was subscribed but somehow it seems not and so I re-subscribed today but never received a welcome email etc. and so I'm not sure if the list is up or what... anyone else on that list? Yes it is active, that is to say alive. I have 4 posts for all of January 2007, 1 of them being from fox trot engineering 6 Jan 2007, 7 Jan 2007, and 3 on 26 Jan 2007. I didn't get anything on the power mail list for about 5 months last year... -- Barbara Needham -- Subject: Re: foxtrot list From: Karim Kabbabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:38:38 +0800 Yes I am on the list :-) On 29 Jan 2007, at 12:05 PM, Marlyse Comte wrote: I'm wondering about the foxtrot list if that is alive. I'm sure I was subscribed but somehow it seems not and so I re-subscribed today but never received a welcome email etc. and so I'm not sure if the list is up or what... anyone else on that list? ---marlyse -- Subject: Re: Negative unread messages in the inbox From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:51:32 +0100 Robert Snyder wrote: The only way that I can make the -3 unread and the bold In Tray go away is to compact my mailboxes. When that completes, there are no new unread emails in the inbox, and unread and bold are gone. You can also fix this problem by performing a verify the consistency of database records. To do this, press the command and option keys while PowerMail is launching, and check the appropriate checkbox. If this problem happens again, and you have an idea of what could have caused it, please let me know. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - First, PowerMail downloads mail in about half the time of Entourage. Second, it's rock solid. Hasn't crashed once (Entourage crashed regularly). Third, searches are lightening fast, very impressive facility. Fourth, it has a very nice filtering capability, at least as strong as Entourage and probably stronger (my rules sets are fairly straightforward). Fifth, it auto syncs with AddressBook without the need for external scripts like in Entourage. PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re: foxtrot list From: C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:27:15 -0500 I'm wondering about the foxtrot list if that is alive. ... anyone else on that list? No one here but us FoxTrot list members. :) But I am surprised at the lull in PM list activity. Chris -- -- Subject: Re: foxtrot list From: Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:43:46 -0500 Hi Marlyse,
powermail-discuss Digest #2552 - 01/30/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2552 - Tuesday, January 30, 2007 Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ultimate Spam by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Ultimate Spam by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Ultimate Spam by Geoff Roynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Ultimate Spam by Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Ultimate Spam by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Frank Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Ultimate Spam by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: greeting card malware? by Michael Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Multiple databases (yet again) by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Ultimate Spam by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Ultimate Spam by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Jeremy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Justin Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Multiple databases (yet again) by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: greeting card malware? From: Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:05:32 -0500 Frank Mitchell sez: I suspect these are intended to overload programs which work like SpamSieve with millions of random 'good' words. If there are enough of them they could eventually render SS ineffective. Your experience seems to confirm this. For this reason, I simply delete such random word messages rather than do a Mark as Spam. That's my theory anyway 8^) That was my theory, too. I went to the SpamSieve website and checked forums, and the general consensus there was to continue to mark even these kinds of messages as spam. So I have. On the plus side, more messages like that get caught by SpamSieve. On the minus side there are so many of them, I don't think I notice a difference until I do actual counts. :) I'll bite the bullet and begin saving up spam messages soon and then remake SpamSieve's corpus. It should take about 9-10 days for me to get 1000 spams to index. Ugh. Now, if I could only find a way to automatically trash all the political mail my father sends to me but save his good messages. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- Subject: Re: greeting card malware? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:16:06 -0500 (EST) I DON'T use spamsieve. I simply open my mailbox using webmail (squirrelmail) and select all the messages. Then I scroll down, unchecking the ones I want to keep. Then I click delete. Then I download. This gives me visual control all the time and it is very fast to do. I can skim through 100 messages in about 2 minutes and pick out the 1 or 2 that I want to read. I have squirrel mail set up to move them to a trash file first before they are gone forever, so if I oops all is not lost. Frank Mitchell sez: I suspect these are intended to overload programs which work like SpamSieve with millions of random 'good' words. If there are enough of them they could eventually render SS ineffective. Your experience seems to confirm this. For this reason, I simply delete such random word messages rather than do a Mark as Spam. That's my theory anyway 8^) That was my theory, too. I went to the SpamSieve website and checked forums, and the general consensus there was to continue to mark even these kinds of messages as spam. So I have. On the plus side, more messages like that get caught by SpamSieve. On the minus side there are so many of them, I don't think I notice a difference until I do actual counts. :) I'll bite the bullet and begin saving up spam messages soon and then remake SpamSieve's corpus. It should take about 9-10 days for me to get 1000 spams to index. Ugh. Now, if I could only find a way to automatically trash all the political mail my father sends to me but save his good messages. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- Subject: Re: greeting card malware? From: Michael Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:23:55 -0500 On Jan 29, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Michael Lewis wrote: SpamSieve
powermail-discuss Digest #2553 - 01/31/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2553 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Multiple databases (yet again) by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Multiple databases (yet again) by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] PowerMail forum? by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail forum? by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Multiple databases (yet again) by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Tim Lapin (sympatico) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Ultimate Spam by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] restoring folder list in the left pane by Joe Dannone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: restoring folder list in the left pane by Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Multiple databases (yet again) From: Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:01:36 -0600 subhash, I'm not sure what you're asking. If the question is why is there a 2 gig limit? my guess is that the answer lies in the compiler or codebase that ctm uses; you'd have to ask them, but a 2 gig limit was a filesize limit for Mac OS for many years, and some apps that date back to pre-OS X still have code that lingers and prevents passing that limit. If the question is why do you keep all that email? that becomes a personal question of how each person organizes their personal and business life, work habits, preferences, and the like. Some people keep nothing; some keep everything. I happen to be one of those who likes to keep all email as a record to go back to; I find it very useful to go back through a client conversation to remember what was said 6 months ago about some issue or topic. Not everyone would want to work this way. The thing is that there are lots of us who do, and for us, 2 gigs is a problem. For myself, my database is about 1.5 gigs, and that doesn't make me comfortable to be that close to the edge for an app that is the lifeblood of my business existence. HTH, Steve On 1/30/07 at 7:50 PM, computer artwork by subhash ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: the 2 gig limit I do not understand you people having problems with this limitation. What is so important to keep 2 GB of it? Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re(2): Multiple databases (yet again) From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:15:26 -0500 Is the 2 GB problem with the message database or with attachments? Could attachments be handled with some kind of alias system? What about saving html mail as text to save room? On 1/30/07 at 6:18 PM, Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Steve Abrahamson (30/1/07 16:22) said: Since the 2 gig database limit is going to remain, I need to start either looking at multiple-database operation, or looking for a new mail client. I'd rather not leave PowerMail I'm in the same position: I'd rather not leave PowerMail, but from past experience multiple (user-created) databases are not a solution. What I'd like to happen is that the database is split into one database per mailbox/folder (which is what I think Apple Mail does), and the 2 gig limit applies to each folder rather than to the entire database. I'd be happy with setting up arbitrary mailbox databases - I could easily move to 2 and be good for a while, then split to 3, but I'd have to be able to easily designate what goes where, and have them all open simultaneously. I'd love to hear something hopeful from ctm on this. The notion that 2 gig is enough, and no good solution beyond that, just isn't, well, good enough anymore. Guys? Throw us a bone here? Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Multiple databases (yet again) From: Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:29:29 -0600 Winston, Mail, not attachments. Most mail gateways block anything over 10 megs anyway, so that's not really an issue. And the
powermail-discuss Digest #2554 - 02/01/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2554 - Thursday, February 1, 2007 Re(2): restoring folder list in the left pane by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] RE: Re(2): restoring folder list in the left pane by Joe Dannone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(4): restoring folder list in the left pane by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something happened by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: restoring folder list in the left pane by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re(2): restoring folder list in the left pane From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:14:32 -0500 Check the View menu Browser Layout. Is it set for 3 panes? - Winston Hi Joe, I don't know how, but some how the Folder List is gone from the left pane. all I can see is the Inbox. When I open the folder list - it opens in a separate window. Maybe it just got dragged closed? If you see a little ^ to the left of your message pane, try putting your mouse over it and see if the mouse changes to a +. If it does, mouse-drag to the right. Then again, maybe it's something else Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://www.jpcr.com -- Subject: Re: Multiple databases (yet again) From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:25:44 -0500 computer artwork by subhash ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-01-30 13:50 said: the 2 gig limit I do not understand you people having problems with this limitation. What is so important to keep 2 GB of it? And I do not understand why people think 2 GB is such a huge number. This isn't the 1980s. 2 GB is small. An 80$ iPod has 1 GB. Programming difficulties aside, I see no reason for PowerMail to force this arbitrary limit. (I am a programmer, and the difficulties are non- trivial, but still). Sean -- Model T Ford, 1908, 25 miles per gallon. Today's Ford Expedition: 15.5 mpg. -- Subject: RE: Re(2): restoring folder list in the left pane From: Joe Dannone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:29:33 -0700 Hii Winston, it is on 3 pane (and it sows all three). The problem is that the left pane (the normal location of the folder list) only states inbox and not the full list. any idea? Joe From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Subject: Re(2): restoring folder list in the left pane Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:14:32 -0500 Check the View menu Browser Layout. Is it set for 3 panes? - Winston Hi Joe, I don't know how, but some how the Folder List is gone from the left pane. all I can see is the Inbox. When I open the folder list - it opens in a separate window. Maybe it just got dragged closed? If you see a little ^ to the left of your message pane, try putting your mouse over it and see if the mouse changes to a +. If it does, mouse-drag to the right. Then again, maybe it's something else Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://www.jpcr.com _ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095tcode=wlmtagline -- Subject: Re(4): restoring folder list in the left pane From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:10:22 -0500 I almost never close PowerMail. Have you tried quitting and re-opening? Another idea: select all the folders in the Folder List window and drag them to the folder pane in the Mail Browser window. Last ideal: re-install PowerMail. (Just download and reinstall the program.) Good luck. - Winston Hii Winston, it is on 3 pane (and it sows all three). The problem is that the left pane (the normal location of the folder list) only states inbox and not the full list. any idea? Joe From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Subject: Re(2): restoring folder list in the left pane Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:14:32 -0500 Check the View menu Browser Layout. Is it set for 3 panes? - Winston Hi Joe, I don't know how, but some how the Folder List is gone from the left pane. all I can see is the Inbox. When I open the folder list - it opens in a separate window. Maybe it just got dragged closed? If you see a little ^ to the left of your message pane, try
powermail-discuss Digest #2555 - 02/02/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2555 - Friday, February 2, 2007 Re: Something happened by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Something happened by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Odd clock behaviour by John R. Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Something happened From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:02:49 +0100 Alan Harper wrote: 1) How does one set a filter for low spam ratings? You can't set a single filter to act on law ratings. But you can set multiple filters that act on different ratings, with the one acting on high ratings first, with the dont apply subsequent filters checkbox enabled, so the next one will only catch low ratings. 2) When did this change occur. Is this new for 5.5.3? Nothing have changed. If you have a single filter that has a spam rating criterion, and the spam rating has been set by SpamSieve, then you only have is high (no is low). This is because you need to teach SpamSieve when it makes mistakes, instead of adjusting the rating level in your filters. However if you have multiple filters that act on spam, you can adjust the rating for each filter. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - If you liked Emailer, and many, many of us did, you'll love this app. The PowerMail people are constantly adding new features. A lightning fast search is one of its many attributes PowerMail user comment on www.macupdate.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re(2): Something happened From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:42:35 -0800 Got it. I just added a second spam filter. A On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:02:49 +0100 PowerMail Engineering said: Nothing have changed. If you have a single filter that has a spam rating criterion, and the spam rating has been set by SpamSieve, then you only have is high (no is low). This is because you need to teach SpamSieve when it makes mistakes, instead of adjusting the rating level in your filters. However if you have multiple filters that act on spam, you can adjust the rating for each filter. -- Subject: Odd clock behaviour From: John R. Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:52:34 -0600 My system clock is set to 24-hour mode (00-23) and I have customized date formats. Powermail has always seemed to respect this - The date sent column correctly matches the system settings (both dates and times), the short headers on mail messages (I'm using 3 pane - long list view mode) correctly give the time in 24 hour mode and use my system settings to format the dates on older messages. But I just discovered that when I forward a mail, the date sent and received information converts to AM/PM mode and the date format is not the same as my system, as in this example Begin Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Class next week Date Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 3:29 PM Date Rec.: Thursday, February 1, 2007 3:29 PM To match my system settings, this should be Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:29 I also just opened a mail message is a separate window to see how those times and dates display in two pane mode, and in this view, Powermail completely ignores my settings. For the same message, Powermail has this at the top: Date: 2/1/07, 3:29 PM which should be (according to my system settings): 01-02/07, 15:29 Have others seen this in powermail? Or is there something special about my computer? cheers, jrh -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2556 - 02/05/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2556 - Monday, February 5, 2007 Re: Multiple databases (yet again) by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Odd clock behaviour by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Filter to remove from server by Shark Attack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Filter to remove from server by Richard Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Multiple databases (yet again) From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:40:56 +0100 computer artwork by subhash sa såhär: I do not understand you people having problems with this limitation. What is so important to keep 2 GB of it? Time. To sort out what you need to keep takes time. To delete it takes time. then when you need an old email address or message, to find it also takes time. Most people only have a number like 10 512 000* minutes, if even that, to devote to computer work, of which email shouldn't be the largest part really. Who got time for time-wasters? There's so much else in life. Like life itself. *30 years minus 8 hours a day sleep shouldn't be much more than what you can achieve before 80, so it's a generous figure. PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- Subject: Re: Odd clock behaviour From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:43:52 +0100 John R. Hopper sa såhär: Have others seen this in powermail? No. Even the source seems to be with the correct settings. Or is there something special about my computer? Or your mail servers I guess. I assume what PM does display isn't the same as the source, so that's a starting point. Use the Show source in scripts. I think they're on the web. PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- Subject: Filter to remove from server From: Shark Attack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:59:46 + Hi all; Does anybody know of a way to specify a filter action that deletes the message from the server? Currently my mail remains on the server for a day, but I'm presently having to do all of my OUTgoing mail via a web interface due to a technical problem. That means that I'm faced with all my received mail, including Spam, mailing lists, etc in the not-very-user-friendly webmail window and it can take a long while to spot the message I'm looking for. All my received mail is, however, still being downloaded to PM (the technical problem is only with outgoing mail, not incoming), so if I could just add an action to the filters that already deal with Spam, mailing lists, etc, to delete the message from the server, then the webmail view would be much cleaner. Is there an applescript for this? Cheers; Rick -- Subject: Re: Filter to remove from server From: Richard Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:25:20 -0600 No need to create any kind of Applescript. While having problems, temporarily uncheck the leave messages on server in the accounts Receiving Options. It will then delete messages from the server as they are downloaded. Put it back to one day when your outgoing/smtp problems are resolved. Hi all; Does anybody know of a way to specify a filter action that deletes the message from the server? Currently my mail remains on the server for a day, but I'm presently having to do all of my OUTgoing mail via a web interface due to a technical problem. That means that I'm faced with all my received mail, including Spam, mailing lists, etc in the not-very-user-friendly webmail window and it can take a long while to spot the message I'm looking for. All my received mail is, however, still being downloaded to PM (the technical problem is only with outgoing mail, not incoming), so if I could just add an action to the filters that already deal with Spam, mailing lists, etc, to delete the message from the server, then the webmail view would be much cleaner. Is there an applescript for this? Cheers; -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2557 - 02/06/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2557 - Tuesday, February 6, 2007 Re: Filter to remove from server by Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Filter to remove from server From: Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:49:08 -0800 applescript tell application PowerMail set theMessages to current messages repeat with msg in theMessages if online status of msg is on server then set online status of msg to marked for deletion end if set status of msg to read end repeat end tell /applescript However, this will not run during a connection because PM doesn't allow you to alter the online status during a connection. You will need to select and run the script at another time. -- Andy Fragen On Feb 5, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Shark Attack wrote: Hi all; Does anybody know of a way to specify a filter action that deletes the message from the server? Currently my mail remains on the server for a day, but I'm presently having to do all of my OUTgoing mail via a web interface due to a technical problem. That means that I'm faced with all my received mail, including Spam, mailing lists, etc in the not-very-user-friendly webmail window and it can take a long while to spot the message I'm looking for. All my received mail is, however, still being downloaded to PM (the technical problem is only with outgoing mail, not incoming), so if I could just add an action to the filters that already deal with Spam, mailing lists, etc, to delete the message from the server, then the webmail view would be much cleaner. Is there an applescript for this? Cheers; Rick -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2558 - 02/07/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2558 - Wednesday, February 7, 2007 curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:14:38 -0800 Hi, I get a lot of emails that include numbers instead of punctuation. Like this: I1ve got an office of users ready for a lynching - mine as a result of issues they are experiencing with Word. I1ve done a fair amount of research I can see that where I would expect single quote ', I see a 1. Sometimes it is a 2, or 3 for similar punctuation marks, like double quotes. Usually these senders are using a MS mail program, and I think they are using curly quotes. What can a PowerMail user do so their emails will look correct when received? I'm in USA, and my PowerMail prefs are set to: Languge family: US/Western Europe Use Character set: ISO-8859-1 (Latin1, Western Europe) TIA, DaveN -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:26:23 -0800 I think that this is an Outlook Express Bug. If I remember correctly, Outlook Express says that it is using one character encoding and actually uses a different one. Look at the headers to see if all are from the same mail client, then do a google search. But I think the answer is, if you are going to lynch someone, perhaps you should find a microsoft engineer. A On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:14:38 -0800 Dave N said: Hi, I get a lot of emails that include numbers instead of punctuation. Like this: I1ve got an office of users ready for a lynching - mine as a result of issues they are experiencing with Word. I1ve done a fair amount of research I can see that where I would expect single quote ', I see a 1. Sometimes it is a 2, or 3 for similar punctuation marks, like double quotes. Usually these senders are using a MS mail program, and I think they are using curly quotes. What can a PowerMail user do so their emails will look correct when received? I'm in USA, and my PowerMail prefs are set to: Languge family: US/Western Europe Use Character set: ISO-8859-1 (Latin1, Western Europe) TIA, DaveN -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2559 - 02/08/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2559 - Thursday, February 8, 2007 Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] exchange-server? by Per Åström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: exchange-server? by Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: exchange-server? by Per Åström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: exchange-server? by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: exchange-server? by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Brian Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: exchange-server? by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Tom Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:01:25 -0800 It also happens with emails sent from the newest version of MS Entourage 2004 for Mac. Does that count as a different email client? Is there a setting I can make in PowerMail that will deal with this well? Other email programs seem to deal with it ok. D Nathanson in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Alan Harper's message of 10:26 AM, 2/7/07 I think that this is an Outlook Express Bug. If I remember correctly, Outlook Express says that it is using one character encoding and actually uses a different one. Look at the headers to see if all are from the same mail client, then do a google search. But I think the answer is, if you are going to lynch someone, perhaps you should find a microsoft engineer. A On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:14:38 -0800 Dave N said: Hi, I get a lot of emails that include numbers instead of punctuation. Like this: I1ve got an office of users ready for a lynching - mine as a result of issues they are experiencing with Word. I1ve done a fair amount of research I can see that where I would expect single quote ', I see a 1. Sometimes it is a 2, or 3 for similar punctuation marks, like double quotes. Usually these senders are using a MS mail program, and I think they are using curly quotes. What can a PowerMail user do so their emails will look correct when received? I'm in USA, and my PowerMail prefs are set to: Languge family: US/Western Europe Use Character set: ISO-8859-1 (Latin1, Western Europe) TIA, DaveN -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:12:21 +0100 Dave N wrote: It also happens with emails sent from the newest version of MS Entourage 2004 for Mac. Does that count as a different email client? Is there a setting I can make in PowerMail that will deal with this well? Other email programs seem to deal with it ok. These messages are badly encoded. Microsoft should fix this problem. Some other email programs display these messages correctly, either because they display the HTML part (which do not have this problem), or because they have hard-coded the fact that entourage messages are badly encoded. But if Microsoft fixes the problem, good Entourage messages will now look as if they were badly encoded... Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - PowerMail is the best, most powerful email client for Mac OS X bar none. PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: exchange-server? From: Per Åström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:28:59 +0100 Hi, I recently changed employer and will from now on be using and Exchange server for my business email. Any suggestions on how I continue using Powermail with such a setup? Thanks, /per å -- Subject: Re: exchange-server? From: Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:08:21 +0100 Per Åström hat am Donnerstag, 08. Februar 2007 geschrieben: Hi, I recently changed employer and will from now on be using and Exchange server for my business email. Any suggestions on how I continue using Powermail with such a setup? What is an exchange server? Pls tell more about. -- Subject: Re: exchange-server? From: Per Åström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:22:23 +0100 What is an exchange server? Pls tell more about. Microsofts proprietary mailsolution: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/default.mspx Not POP, not IMAP, but Exchange.. Best used with Outlook on
powermail-discuss Digest #2561 - 02/10/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2561 - Saturday, February 10, 2007 Re: Snooze doesn't work by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Snooze doesn't work by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Snooze doesn't work by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Howard Mullinack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Snooze doesn't work by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Snooze doesn't work by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Snooze doesn't work From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:20:16 -0500 Alan Harper / 2007/02/09 / 11:52 AM wrote: Please let me know if/when .mac starts working again for you. The error finally stopped! Phew! So, any word on Snooze doesn't snooze, Jérôme? :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- Subject: Re(2): Snooze doesn't work From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:07:23 -0800 Apple is back up now for me. See the discussion at discussions.apple.com to see how to ping mail.mac.com. On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:52:29 -0800 Alan Harper said: Hiro I am having the same behavior (not with Traceroute, I didn't try that). I started a discussion at .mac on this. http://discussions.apple.com/ thread.jspa?threadID=848951tstart=0. Please let me know if/when mac starts working again for you. A On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:03:25 -0500 A-NO-NE Music said: P.S. Does anyone know what the hell is going on with .mac last 3 days? I can't ping, I can't traceroute, PM reports POP not there, but web access is still OK. According to Traceroute, it stops at San Jose so it isn't my problem. -- Subject: Re: Snooze doesn't work From: Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:51:37 -0500 Alan Harper sez: Apple is back up now for me. See the discussion at discussions.apple.com to see how to ping mail.mac.com. This is all good info. Thanks for posting these follow-ups to the list, Alan and Hiro. I have a couple of clients who use .mac also, and even if I don't see the issue myself it's good to know some tips on how I might see it or find others with the issue. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: Howard Mullinack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:32:57 -0800 Dave N Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:05:12 -0800 Actually, I would LOVE to have a find/replace feature in PowerMail. I live in PowerMail a lot more than any other word processor, and yet I find myself copy/pasting entire messages into TextWrangler for simple things, like find/replace a certain expression or word. Then select all/ copy/paste back to PowerMail. DaveN I second the motion. Would same me a lot of time when composing involved emails. -- Subject: Re: Snooze doesn't work From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:00:02 +0100 A-NO-NE Music wrote: So, any word on Snooze doesn't snooze, Jérôme? Snooze stops (during an hour) reporting consecutive identical errors on a given account during scheduled connections. If the errors are intermittent (when a connection succeeded between to failed attempts for example), or do not always have the same error code, then the error is notified. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - Powermail soon became the most indispensable program in my life, and now that I've upgraded to the newest version, I'm pleased to report that it's gotten even better. PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re: Snooze doesn't work From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:11:24 -0500 PowerMail Engineering / 2007/02/10 / 04:00 AM wrote: Snooze stops (during an hour) reporting consecutive identical errors on a given account during scheduled connections. If the errors are intermittent (when a connection succeeded between to failed attempts for example), or do not always have the same error code, then the error is notified. Well, ironically one of my servers is down tonight. it seems my ISP got DoS and they took it down 5 hours ago, and they have not been able to bring it back so far. So, in this situation, I'd expect Snooze to work, but it doesn't. I am keep hitting Snooze every time PM bring it up. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku,
powermail-discuss Digest #2562 - 02/12/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2562 - Monday, February 12, 2007 Printing HTML email by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Printing HTML email From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:32:31 -0500 When I print HTML email from PowerMail I get a blank page with a short header and footer. I can print text email fine, and I can print HTML email when I open it in a web browser. (Mac OS 10.3.9) Why can't PowerMail print HTML email? - Winston -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2563 - 02/14/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2563 - Wednesday, February 14, 2007 Searching is slow by Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Searching is slow by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Searching is slow by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] garbled html by DDV [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Searching is slow From: Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:04:43 +0100 I have background indexing turned on and I'm using a relatively quick machine. My message database is around 90 Mb, and when I do search PM can take more than 5 minutes to 'sort and optimize' my database. For this reason I don't search very often (perhaps every two or three days). Looking in my 'PowerMail Files' folder, I see that the 'Message Database index' dates from my last major PM upgrade in October 2006 and carries neither type nor creator (so the Finder doesn't what to use to open it) . Is such slowing searching normal? And, if so, would FoxTrot be equally slow if I invested in it as a standalone? -- Charles PM 5.5.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 -- Subject: Re: Searching is slow From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:31:14 +0100 Charles Watts-Jones wrote: I have background indexing turned on and I'm using a relatively quick machine. My message database is around 90 Mb, and when I do search PM can take more than 5 minutes to 'sort and optimize' my database. You may try to compact your search index (from the menu File / Database / Compact Search Index). Looking in my 'PowerMail Files' folder, I see that the 'Message Database index' dates from my last major PM upgrade in October 2006 This is in fact a file package, so the Finder does not reflect the modification date of the files inside the package. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - PowerMail is the email client for me for several reasons: (1) the integrity of the database, (2) the incredible searching speed, (3) the filtering system meets all my needs, (4) I absolutely LOVE the Recent Mail browser, (5) SpamSieve meets all my spam blocking needs Sherman Wilcox, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re: Searching is slow From: Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:42:19 + Charles Watts-Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:04:43 +0100 I have background indexing turned on and I'm using a relatively quick machine. My message database is around 90 Mb, and when I do search PM can take more than 5 minutes to 'sort and optimize' my database. For this reason I don't search very often (perhaps every two or three days). Looking in my 'PowerMail Files' folder, I see that the 'Message Database index' dates from my last major PM upgrade in October 2006 and carries neither type nor creator (so the Finder doesn't what to use to open it) . Is such slowing searching normal? And, if so, would FoxTrot be equally slow if I invested in it as a standalone? -- Charles PM 5.5.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 Interesting. My Message database is around 1GB, the Message Database index is 248mb and it took 7 seconds to 'sort and optimize'. -- Derry -- Subject: garbled html From: DDV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:48:20 +0100 hi, i have a problem reading html mails, not the kind of html that has images and colors and stuff integrated, but usually it's just plain message that people reply to. i send them a message from powermail in plain text, they reply (from hotmail or gmail account) in html, and all i can see is ddv wrote. after that it looks like all the text is printed on top of each other in an unreadable font ddv -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2564 - 02/15/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2564 - Thursday, February 15, 2007 Default mail client by Angelica Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Karsten Liere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Angelica Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Default mail client by Koen Beerens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Default mail client by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Default mail client From: Angelica Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:19:47 -0500 I have been using PM for about 3 weeks and the paid version for about a week. I have yet to discover the way to make PM my default mail client. Every time I click on an email address, my computer opens Mail. PM 5.2.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 Thanks Angelica -- Subject: Re: Default mail client From: computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:29:58 +0100 Open Mail/Preferences and change the default mail client. [Angelica Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 14.2.2007 um 14:19 Uhr:] I have been using PM for about 3 weeks and the paid version for about a week. I have yet to discover the way to make PM my default mail client. Every time I click on an email address, my computer opens Mail. -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . computer artwork by subhash Baden bei Wien http://www.subhash.at Digitales Imaging Screen | Web | GrafikDesign . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- Subject: Re: Default mail client From: Karsten Liere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:36:36 +0100 Angelica, In Mail's Preferences under the General tab, first pull-down menu 'Default Email Reader' is the point to check ;-). Cheers, PS: This is similar to the default web browser preference which one has to change in Safari's Prefs... I have been using PM for about 3 weeks and the paid version for about a week. I have yet to discover the way to make PM my default mail client. Every time I click on an email address, my computer opens Mail. PM 5.2.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 Thanks Angelica -- Subject: Re: Default mail client From: Angelica Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:40:52 -0500 Open Mail/Preferences and change the default mail client. Got it! Thanks! Angelica -- Subject: Re: Default mail client From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:54:32 -0500 I think you have to open Mail's preferences and de-select it as the default email client. Good luck. - Winston I have been using PM for about 3 weeks and the paid version for about a week. I have yet to discover the way to make PM my default mail client. Every time I click on an email address, my computer opens Mail. PM 5.2.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 Thanks Angelica -- Subject: Re: Default mail client From: Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:11:02 -0500 (EST) I have been using PM for about 3 weeks and the paid version for about a week. I have yet to discover the way to make PM my default mail client. Every time I click on an email address, my computer opens Mail. That's because the preference to change your email isn't where one would expect. To change it system wide, it's in??? Yep, Apple's Mail program. Open Mail, go to the Preferences and in the General Prefs tab, there is a setting for Default Mail Reader. Change it to PowerMail and you'll be set. Wayne -- Subject: Re(2): Default mail client From: Koen Beerens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:21:18 +0100 On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:11:02 -0500, Wayne Brissette wrote: I have been using PM for about 3 weeks and the paid version for about a week. I have yet to discover the way to make PM my default mail client. Every time I click on an email address, my computer opens Mail. That's because the preference to change your email isn't where one would expect. To change it system wide, it's in??? Yep,
powermail-discuss Digest #2565 - 02/16/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2565 - Friday, February 16, 2007 Re: Printing HTML email by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Printing HTML email by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Script not working by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Script not working (addition) by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old complaint about subject line behaviour by Per Åström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Old complaint about subject line behaviour by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Old complaint about subject line behaviour by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Printing HTML email From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:55:20 +0900 Am/On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:40:26 -0800 schrieb/wrote Dave N: I can print HTML emails. I don't that that often, so I don't have a complete report on printing html emails. However, today I was viewing a html email (no graphics, it was a purchase receipt) and when I pressed apple-p on my keyboard, it printed without giving me the print dialog box, so I couldn't even chose which printer to send it to, nor could I do a Print Preview. Since the laser printer was cold, it didn't appear to do anything at all, so I waited a few seconds, and assumed that the my print command had not worked. So I pulled down the File Menu to Print, and then 2 copies of this email came out of the laser printer. Again, no print dialog box. I am sure that I did NOT ask for a Print One. Is this as expected? Does PowerMail intentionally not offer a print dialog box when printing html emails? It doesn't seem right nor helpful. I thought that was a bug in the last beta, which should be fixed now it works as expected with PM 5.5.3 under 10.4.8 in the header I can see you use the same version, which OS are you using? All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905 --- -- Subject: Re: Printing HTML email From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:17:22 -0800 I have PowerMail version 5.5.3 build 4480 English (PPC) Mac OS version: 10.3.9 And when I print a html mail it does NOT give me a print dialog box. Best, Dave Nathanson Mac Medix in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Matthias Schmidt's message of 10:55 AM, 2/16/07 Am/On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:40:26 -0800 schrieb/wrote Dave N: I can print HTML emails. I don't that that often, so I don't have a complete report on printing html emails. However, today I was viewing a html email (no graphics, it was a purchase receipt) and when I pressed apple-p on my keyboard, it printed without giving me the print dialog box, so I couldn't even chose which printer to send it to, nor could I do a Print Preview. Since the laser printer was cold, it didn't appear to do anything at all, so I waited a few seconds, and assumed that the my print command had not worked. So I pulled down the File Menu to Print, and then 2 copies of this email came out of the laser printer. Again, no print dialog box. I am sure that I did NOT ask for a Print One. Is this as expected? Does PowerMail intentionally not offer a print dialog box when printing html emails? It doesn't seem right nor helpful. I thought that was a bug in the last beta, which should be fixed now it works as expected with PM 5.5.3 under 10.4.8 in the header I can see you use the same version, which OS are you using? All the best Matthias -- Subject: Re: Printing HTML email From: Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:19:11 -0800 Hi, I also get no print dialog. Frustrating when I need to switch printers as I move from home to work and back. PM 5.5.2; Mac OS 10.4.8 Intel MacBook Pro (from early last year) Bruce -- Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com As Dave N wrote... I can print HTML emails. I don't that that often, so I don't have a complete report on printing html emails. However, today I was viewing a html email (no graphics, it was a purchase receipt) and when I pressed apple-p on my keyboard, it printed without giving me the print dialog box, so I couldn't even chose which printer to send it to, nor could I do a Print Preview. Since the laser printer was cold, it didn't appear to do anything at all, so I waited a
powermail-discuss Digest #2566 - 02/18/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2566 - Sunday, February 18, 2007 Re: Default mail client by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Script not working (addition) by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spotlight cache in PM folder? by Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Default mail client From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:05:00 +0100 Wayne Brissette said it like: That's because the preference to change your email isn't where one would expect. To change it system wide, it's in??? Yep, Apple's Mail program. This ought to be against Apple's own Human Interface Guidelines if it's not already. It's just stpuid microsoftism, period! Bad Apple! PM 5.2.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- Subject: Re: Printing HTML email From: Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:52:29 -0600 Recently, Matthias Schmidt wrote: it works as expected with PM 5.5.3 under 10.4.8 I have PM 5.5.3 (just installed) and Tiger 10.4.8. However, I still can't print HTML messages. Do I understand correctly that this is working for some people? If so, what am I doing wrong? --Anna -- Subject: Re: Printing HTML email From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:48:28 +0900 Am/On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:52:29 -0600 schrieb/wrote Anna Silliman: Recently, Matthias Schmidt wrote: it works as expected with PM 5.5.3 under 10.4.8 I have PM 5.5.3 (just installed) and Tiger 10.4.8. However, I still can't print HTML messages. Do I understand correctly that this is working for some people? If so, what am I doing wrong? Anna, you're citing me out of context. I don't know if html printing works, but some people said so. Html mail is in my case mostly Spam especially if it doesn't contain a textpart. I said, thy print dialogs work as expected, because there was a bug in 5.3.2 which is fixed now, at least under Tiger. All the best Matthias --- Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.com Tel. +81-736-56-3905 --- -- Subject: Re(2): Script not working (addition) From: computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:20:24 +0100 Now I found that this script (a customized version of Andy Fragens Delete from Content) *works* if I trigger it with Smile (an alternative script editor) but not when I use Apples Scripteditor for it. This shows an error. «event SATIRPLl» of the command set mContent to «event SATIRPLl» ^[ ]*$ with «class UsGR» given «class $in »:mContent, «class by »: is not understood by ^[ ]*$ it says. Run from Smile it works fine. Run out of PM it does not work and shows no error. [computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.2.2007 um 10:54 Uhr:] [computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.2.2007 um 10:43 Uhr:] How is it possible that an Applescript for PM is running from the scripteditor but not from PM itself? Addition: I migrated form an old Mac with OS 10.4.8 to a new one (Mac Pro, that means Intel processor) with OS 10.4.8. I'm using PM 5.5.3. Thanks for hints! -- Subject: Re: Printing HTML email From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:13:43 +0900 Am/On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:05:15 -0600 schrieb/wrote Anna Silliman: Recently, Matthias Schmidt wrote: Anna, you're citing me out of context. I don't know if html printing works, but some people said so. Html mail is in my case mostly Spam especially if it doesn't contain a textpart. I said, thy print dialogs work as expected, because there was a bug in 5.3.2 which is fixed now, at least under Tiger. Sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought you meant the printing (in PM) works, but you meant the print dialogs work. Unfortunately, vast numbers of (ignorant) people use HTML mail now, it's not just spam. I get messages from my customers all the time in this format. My problem is that I always forget it's HTML, print it, get a blank sheet, then have to switch it to plain text and print again. Anna, why not switching off html, then you get the text part as default and you have a little globe-button down. If you need to see the html, then just press that button and you can view it. PM is a text-oriented mail- client,
powermail-discuss Digest #2567 - 02/19/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2567 - Monday, February 19, 2007 Re: Script not working (addition) by Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Script not working (addition) by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(3): Script not working (addition) by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing HTML email by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Basic questions from a possible newbie by Richard Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? another problem by Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? by Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by ETM [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Script not working (addition) From: Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:03:50 -0800 I haven't used that script for a while but I think it requires the Satimage OSAX to function. -- Andy Fragen On Feb 18, 2007, at 6:20 AM, computer artwork by subhash wrote: Now I found that this script (a customized version of Andy Fragens Delete from Content) *works* if I trigger it with Smile (an alternative script editor) but not when I use Apples Scripteditor for it. This shows an error. «event SATIRPLl» of the command set mContent to «event SATIRPLl» ^[ ]*$ with «class UsGR» given «class $in »:mContent, «class by »: is not understood by ^[ ]*$ it says. Run from Smile it works fine. Run out of PM it does not work and shows no error. [computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.2.2007 um 10:54 Uhr:] [computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.2.2007 um 10:43 Uhr:] How is it possible that an Applescript for PM is running from the scripteditor but not from PM itself? Addition: I migrated form an old Mac with OS 10.4.8 to a new one (Mac Pro, that means Intel processor) with OS 10.4.8. I'm using PM 5.5.3. Thanks for hints! -- Subject: Re(2): Script not working (addition) From: computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:17:20 +0100 [Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.2.2007 um 12:03 Uhr:] I haven't used that script for a while but I think it requires the Satimage OSAX to function. Ah, maybe that this function was lost during migration! But why does it work out of Smile? - Maybe because Smile is running with Rosetta but PM and the scripteditor nativ. I think that's the answer for my question. Thanks for help! -- http://www.subhash.at -- Subject: Re(3): Script not working (addition) From: computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:33:21 +0100 Installed Satimage OSAX as universal binary and now it's working again *if* first the message was saved. -- http://www.subhash.at [computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.2.2007 um 22:17 Uhr:] [Andy Fragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.2.2007 um 12:03 Uhr:] I haven't used that script for a while but I think it requires the Satimage OSAX to function. Ah, maybe that this function was lost during migration! But why does it work out of Smile? - Maybe because Smile is running with Rosetta but PM and the scripteditor nativ. I think that's the answer for my question. Thanks for help! -- Subject: Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:13:36 +0100 Anna Silliman wrote: When I first set up Spotlight (on OS 10.4.8) it asked if I wanted my PM indexed, then it automatically put a PM Database cache inside my PowerMail folder (in User~Mail). Does anyone know if I can move that cache somewhere else? PowerMail expects the Spotlight Cache to be in the same folder as the message database. However, you can move it to another location and replace it with symlink in the database folder. Symlinks are unix like aliases. The Finder can display them (they are shown as an alias) but you can only create them from Terminal. Here is how to do that: - Quit PowerMail - Move the Message Database Spotlight cache file to another location - in a terminal window, type this command: ln -s [path of the moved spotlight cache] [path of the database folder]/ You can drag and drop the files from the Finder to paste their path to the Terminal window. Make sure to REMOVE the trailing slash (/) from the cache path, and to LEAVE the trailing slash for the database folder. Example (to type on a single line): ln -s /Users/jerome/Library/Message\ Database\ Spotlight\
powermail-discuss Digest #2568 - 02/20/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2568 - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? another problem by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? another problem by Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie From: Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:34:40 -0500 From someone who is a longtime PowerMail user, but who is waffling about using Apple Mail since recently moving to Tiger (10.4.8): On or about 2/19/07, Richard Stoddard wrote: 1. I do want to keep separate in/out/sent boxes for each account. (I have four and my wife has two.) Does PowerMail have that feature? AFAIK, there is only one In and Out Tray, and a Sent tray is optional. You can set up a filter with the account as one of the conditions, and sort into specified mailboxes as an action. This should work fine with 'In' and 'Sent' mail, but I don't think you can simulate this with an 'Out' mailbox, although you can have the account information listed in the view of the mailbox, and use that for sorting. I suggest that you set each user of the computer up with his/her own system account. PowerMail supports multiple users in this way, and you would each have a separate, private mail database. This would also be the case with Apple Mail. 2. I want to set at what point lines wrap, something I cannot get AppleMail to do. In part I don't like lines runing all the way across my screen, but I also intend to use GPG, and need a fixed wrap point. I couldn't find a setting to define the wrap point. 3. I like to thread certain mailboxes, but with AppleMail, when I open the parent e-mail, it opens all messages in the thread, a real pain if there are a lot of responses. In Apple Mail, First hit the 'disclosure' icon at the left side of the column, which displays all the messages in the thread, then you can open any message in the thread individually. PowerMail doesn't support threading. However, PowerMail has extremely fast, flexible and powerful search capabilities, which could help toward the same end. I like threading, but find that I really don't _need_ it. 4. How good is its anti-spam capability? PowerMail has excellent filtering capabilities of its own, which can be very effective. With the addition of SpamSieve, and a little training, it is fantastic. Apple Mail is perhaps a little easier to get going on spam filtering than PowerMail because of its Junk Filter capability, but not as effective as when using SpamSieve in either Apple Mail or PowerMail. A few of other comments: Apple Mail supports Smart Mailboxes, which are very, very useful. This is the one feature that may capture and hold me with Apple Mail. PowerMail has only one 'smart' feature, which is the 'Recent Mail' window. I have one Smart Mailbox in Apple Mail to show me only unread mail, and another that shows me anything that I have marked as 'flagged' - sort of a quick 'todo' function that keeps the messages in their various filtered mailboxes, but also displays them for me to follow up on. As far as I can tell, Apple Mail doesn't actually decode (most?) attachments until you manually open them. PowerMail, OTOH, puts all attachments into a specific (user definable) folder, and trashes them when you trash the message. It is a lot easier to set up a virus checker (I use ClamXav) to check PowerMail attachments. I much prefer PowerMail's approach. PowerMail is more graceful about maintaining a database file with large numbers of messages (at least up to the 2GB limit). I am running PowerMail and Apple Mail in parallel, having imported messages from PowerMail to Apple Mail. My largest mailbox has about 5000 messages, which really isn't that many. If I open that mailbox in PowerMail, the messages are shown as fast as I can register that anything is happening. In Apple Mail it takes several seconds to display this mailbox on my stock 450MHz G4 Cube. PowerMail is designed for those users who prefer to deal in text-based email. There is no built-in facility for composing messages with different fonts, styles, etc. The message reader supports reading HTML email, either within PowerMail (with or without images) or within the default Web browser. I typically run with the HTML reader 'disabled', which shows me the text part of a multipart message (if any); I can always select to view the HTML as needed. HTH... - Don -- Don V. Zahniser PowerMac G4 Cube, Mac OS 10.4.8, 1.25 GB RAM -- Subject: Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie From: Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:55:20 -0500
powermail-discuss Digest #2569 - 02/22/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2569 - Thursday, February 22, 2007 Re(2): Basic questions from a possible newbie by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Re(2): Basic questions from a possible newbie by ETM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? by Anna Silliman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by ETM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Spotlight cache in PM folder? by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Basic questions from a possible newbie by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [OT] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [OT] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re(2): Basic questions from a possible newbie From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:29:59 -0800 FWIW, I use PowerMail because when I moved to OSX from OS 9, I tried a bunch of email clients, on my then large email database. (I am adamant that I will not throw out old email). PowerMail was then the only email client that didn't grind to a halt or quickly corrupt the files. Now, with the addition of FoxTrot, it serves almost every need. I have written a few applescripts, and have a complex set of filters that allow me to nearly painlessly deal with ~150 spams/day. The two problems with it that I find annoying: It is difficult to forward html email. You can redirect it, but forwarding it is difficult/impossible (keeping the formatting). It is asks me once a day to wait while it reindexes my files. The wait is just long enough for me to switch to FireFox, type in a web address, but not long enough for the address to load and let me read something while I am waiting for PowerMail. (Ie, about 10 seconds). A On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:55:20 -0500 Don V. Zahniser said: Hi, Elaine - On or about 2/19/07, ETM wrote: Options wanted: Redirect mail smoothly for others (mailing lists), No comment - I don't use this kind of functionality. WYSIWYG compose/send, PowerMail is text-only; no formatting. ability to fend off HTML (TB! uses tabs and I read the plain text mail on top of HTML and rarely even look at the HTML tab), From what you describe, PowerMail has similar flexibility in doing this, but instead of a tab-based interface, the reading 'engine' is chosen by an icon at the bottom of the window. delete duplicates across an account, I believe there are some Applescripts out there to do this. multiple accounts, Yes. no limits on size beyond limits of PC on which PowerMail is installed, PowerMail has a database size limit of 2GB. Several users are requesting that this limit be removed/enlarged. built-in backup and restore system. I'm not aware of such capability in PowerMail. Decent search capability across the entire mail program. I tend to use the mail program for filing important notes and attached graphics. I would describe PowerMail's search capability as 'superlative'... Many thanks for a response. I haven't yet installed the trial program, assume that it is only good for so many days, I'd like to get a feel for whether most or all of these options are there before I give the program a go. The trial is fully featured, with no time limit, but with a limit of 200 messages in the database to allow for testing out its functionality. When you register, you get a key that unlocks this limitation. No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Love the tagline! - Don -- Don V. Zahniser PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz, Mac OS 10.4.8, 1.25 GB RAM -- Subject: Re: Spotlight cache in PM folder? From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:22:14 -0800 I don't know what back-up software you
powermail-discuss Digest #2570 - 02/23/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2570 - Friday, February 23, 2007 Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delete Key doesn't work in the List by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [OT] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by Richard Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [OT] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notifications (again) by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Notifications (again) by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL ok? by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: AOL ok? by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Notifications (again) by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Notifications (again) by Tom Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie From: C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:32:23 -0500 This is the article I couldn't find this morning about Mac backup software: http://blog.plasticsfuture.org/2006/04/23/mac-backup-software-harmful/ Chris -- -- Subject: Delete Key doesn't work in the List From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:55:33 +0900 Hello, I have to go through a huge amount of mails every day. So it would be very convenient, if I just could press the delete key to move a message to the mail trash. Or did I miss something? All the best Matthias Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.de Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg Geschäftsführer: Peter Frank, Jürgen Krey, Matthias Schmidt Amtsgericht Nürnberg: HRB 21750 Tel.: 09872-31 43 30 -- Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Basic questions from a possible newbie From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:30:20 +0900 Am/On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:23:21 + schrieb/wrote Tim Hodgson: On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 2:31 pm -0600, Marlyse Comte wrote: This was the reason I once again began looking at other solutions, but I've just found none ( - even though I'd like to use Rsync, I'm not able to make some dependable script with it). Yes, I'd like to use rsync, but every time I've started to google it up, I've found half a dozen contradictory accounts of which version has which bugs, at which point I think life's too short for this and go back to SuperDuper. But as you and Matthias say, disk images and backups don't go well together... search the OS X Server list for rsync, it was just discussed recently. All the best Matthias Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.de Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg Geschäftsführer: Peter Frank, Jürgen Krey, Matthias Schmidt Amtsgericht Nürnberg: HRB 21750 Tel.: 09872-31 43 30 -- Subject: Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List From: Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:44:56 + Matthias Schmidt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:55:33 +0900 Hello, I have to go through a huge amount of mails every day. So it would be very convenient, if I just could press the delete key to move a message to the mail trash. Or did I miss something? Command delete works. Cheers -- Derry Thompson g l o d e r w o r k s | Design - Hosting - Programming http://www.gloderworks.com + 44 (0) 1562 631430 t + 44 (0) 7976 802487 m -- Subject: Re: Delete Key doesn't work in the List From: computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:46:37 +0100 [Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 23.2.2007 um 10:55 Uhr:] .. if I just could press the delete key to move a message to the mail trash. It's command-delete. --
powermail-discuss Digest #2571 - 02/24/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2571 - Saturday, February 24, 2007 Re: Notifications (again) by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Notifications (again) From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:05:35 -0800 I sure would like some help when a connecting isn't working! A log file, of any kind would be really useful at times! Best, Dave N in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Tom Dillon's message of 10:54 AM, 2/23/07 Any kind of logging would be nice. Even if the errors appeared in the form of emails in an Error folder. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2572 - 02/28/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2572 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:45:53 -0800 Today I1m getting really annoyed at seeing 1 instead of apostrophes. CTM, PLEASE fix this for us! You do love us more than Microsoft does, ... don1t you? (you DO, right??) Best, Dave N in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Dave N's message of 12:05 PM, 2/8/07 Without getting into a tis/taint argument about WHO should fix the problem, and even though we all hope that CTMDEV cares more about PowerMail users than Microsoft does. How about a toolbar button that does a find/replace to fix these? For instances of *1* to detect a 1 in place of a single quote, replace with *'*. And so forth. So a word like don1t would be corrected to be don't. If it's really true that only humans can detect these poorly encoded messages, then let the humans push the button to replace the 1,2, or 3 with ' and . Part of the problem is that according to the Rest of the World, my email program of choice is lame because it can1t properly display messages that 2everybody else3 can. Actually, I would LOVE to have a find/replace feature in PowerMail. I live in PowerMail a lot more than any other word processor, and yet I find myself copy/pasting entire messages into TextWrangler for simple things, like find/replace a certain expression or word. Then select all/ copy/paste back to PowerMail. DaveN in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), PowerMail Engineering's message of 12:12 AM, 2/8/07 Dave N wrote: It also happens with emails sent from the newest version of MS Entourage 2004 for Mac. Does that count as a different email client? Is there a setting I can make in PowerMail that will deal with this well? Other email programs seem to deal with it ok. These messages are badly encoded. Microsoft should fix this problem. Some other email programs display these messages correctly, either because they display the HTML part (which do not have this problem), or because they have hard-coded the fact that entourage messages are badly encoded. But if Microsoft fixes the problem, good Entourage messages will now look as if they were badly encoded... Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2573 - 03/05/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2573 - Monday, March 5, 2007 Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messgae Folders by Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Messgae Folders by Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:50:25 +0100 Dave N sa såhär: Today I1m getting really annoyed at seeing 1 instead of apostrophes. CTM, PLEASE fix this for us! You do love us more than Microsoft does, ... don1t you? I wrote a script trying to solve this problem, which stumbled on the fact that the message source is read only. If it was changeable, the problem could be fixed with an applescript. Done completely by CTM would be better though. PM 5.5.2 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD -- Subject: Messgae Folders From: Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:44:17 -0600 I think that this may have been covered before, but with the PowerMail that I have on my home Mac, certain of the Mail Folders' names stay bold, even though all of the mail in them has been read. I've changed the Display pref's back and forth, but to no avail. Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:48:45 -0500 Mikael Byström / 2007/02/28 / 03:50 PM wrote: Done completely by CTM would be better though. I agree. Apple Mail gave the workaround. Can we have one, too? An interesting side story: When OSX came out, digital audio vendors weren't ready for the new framework. This is why Apple had to buy out Emagic Logic so _someone_ have to work hard to program for OSX. All the plug-in vendors had to rewrite their products to work in Logic. Everyone believed the Logic's requirement was the AudioUnits spec. When MOTU came out with AU products, they won't work in Logic. By then, Logic admits they misunderstood Apple's AU spec. MOTU followed the spec to the letter, and it won't work. By the way, it was also Apple's fault the spec wasn't too clear when Logic had to be out there. This AU mess is much improved now, but some vendors like Waves, probably the biggest and most sold plug-in vendor, their AU version supports only Logic. This upsets us a lot, but they are still surviving in this game. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- Subject: Re: Messgae Folders From: Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:52:35 -0500 Hi Tony, I think that this may have been covered before, but with the PowerMail that I have on my home Mac, certain of the Mail Folders' names stay bold, even though all of the mail in them has been read. I've changed the Display pref's back and forth, but to no avail. I used to see this, but haven't for the last few version releases. Is it still happening to you after using the latest version and running a database compact? Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://www.jpcr.com -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2574 - 03/06/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2574 - Tuesday, March 6, 2007 Re: Messgae Folders by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Messgae Folders by Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Messgae Folders by H.R. Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Messgae Folders by Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] PowerMail to Mail possible bug by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail to Mail possible bug by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail to Mail possible bug by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Messgae Folders From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:58:07 +0900 Am/On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:44:17 -0600 schrieb/wrote Anthony Sanna: I think that this may have been covered before, but with the PowerMail that I have on my home Mac, certain of the Mail Folders' names stay bold, even though all of the mail in them has been read. I've changed the Display pref's back and forth, but to no avail. File - Database - Compact solves the problem maybe updating index will also do. All the best Matthias Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.de Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg Geschäftsführer: Peter Frank, Jürgen Krey, Matthias Schmidt Amtsgericht Nürnberg: HRB 21750 Tel.: 09872-31 43 30 -- Subject: Re: Messgae Folders From: Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:03:06 -0600 I used to see this, but haven't for the last few version releases. Is it still happening to you after using the latest version and running a database compact? Latest version, but I haven't run any of the maintenance routines. I'll try that tonight when I get home. Thanks. Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Messgae Folders From: H.R. Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:10:40 -1000 Verifying consistency should fix this (has for me). Do this on startup (hold down command-option). Ron Anthony Sanna wrote on 3/5/07: I think that this may have been covered before, but with the PowerMail that I have on my home Mac, certain of the Mail Folders' names stay bold, even though all of the mail in them has been read. I've changed the Display pref's back and forth, but to no avail. Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3 From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:01:43 -0800 I have been using an applescript that changes the incoming messages to whatever is on the clipboard. It isn't perfect, but it works. To use it, copy something to the clipboard first, then run this script from the PowerMail script menu to replace the entire text email message with the clipboard contents. Adapted from a 1999 Claris Emailer script. It's only 8k, and anyone interested can download it here: http://sbamug.com/drdave/powermail/ReplaceMsgText.zip Hopefully, this will provide an example of how to edit an incoming email via applescript. Hope this helps. Best, Dave Nathanson Mac Medix PS: Glad to see the list appears to be working again. in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Mikael Byström's message of 12:50 PM, 2/28/07 Dave N sa såhär: Today I1m getting really annoyed at seeing 1 instead of apostrophes. CTM, PLEASE fix this for us! You do love us more than Microsoft does, ... don1t you? I wrote a script trying to solve this problem, which stumbled on the fact that the message source is read only. If it was changeable, the problem could be fixed with an applescript. Done completely by CTM would be better though. -- Subject: Re: Messgae Folders From: Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:53:56 -0600 Verifying consistency should fix this (has for me). Do this on startup (hold down command-option). Thanks, all. Tony -- Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 1-800-373-7226 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: PowerMail to Mail possible bug From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:15:31 -0600 Trying to export a PM folder and it's content to Mail. Mail will only see the exported folder and tell me it is a local folder but not show any messages and states that the folder has zero messages, though 164 messages should be there after the export. Is it a bug or am I doing something wrong? Steps I did : FIRST
powermail-discuss Digest #2575 - 03/07/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2575 - Wednesday, March 7, 2007 Scripting Questions by Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warning madness by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Scripting Questions From: Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:34:41 -0500 Hi, all - I would like to create a couple of scripts in PowerMail using the Find function. I've taken a quick looked the dictionary, but don't see anything obvious. I _am_ an AppleScript newbie/idiot, so maybe it's just me... What I want to do is create AppleScripts using Find that emulate Smart Folders. For example: 1) A script that will find/display all messages with a specific label anywhere in the database. I have a label (ToDo) which is automatically set by some filters, and sometimes manually, to keep track of things I have to do at some later time. I also want to have these messages remain in their respective folders. 2) A script that will find/display all unread messages, for those times when my cat shuts down my computer (No, I am NOT kidding!) which defeats the Recent Mail window. I can do these things manually and easily with the Find function now, but it would be nice to automate them... Any ideas? Thanks, - Don -- Don V. Zahniser -- Subject: Warning madness From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:06:16 -0500 It just happened that a few people sent me large audio files at once. The partition I have PM db filled up quickly. At this point, PM threw Not enough space message. The problem is this message gets in a loop. You can't exit PM at this point. If I hit Cmd+Q between dismissing the warning box, PM shows Quit Anyway? warning even though the status bar isn't indicating download is in progress. The Quit Anyway? dialog is sent right away by another Not enough space warning. I had to kill PM proc to shut it off. Of course the indices needed to be rebuilt at this point. I was really glad the mail db wasn't corrupt, tho. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2576 - 03/08/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2576 - Thursday, March 8, 2007 Re: Warning madness by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Warning madness From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:02:22 +0900 Am/On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:06:16 -0500 schrieb/wrote A-NO-NE Music: It just happened that a few people sent me large audio files at once. The partition I have PM db filled up quickly. At this point, PM threw Not enough space message. The problem is this message gets in a loop. You can't exit PM at this point. If I hit Cmd+Q between dismissing the warning box, PM shows Quit Anyway? warning even though the status bar isn't indicating download is in progress. The Quit Anyway? dialog is sent right away by another Not enough space warning. I had to kill PM proc to shut it off. Of course the indices needed to be rebuilt at this point. I was really glad the mail db wasn't corrupt, tho. obviously someone abused the mail-client for ftp ;-) imho a ftp server or webDav is much better for big file-uploads then pop3. All the best Matthias Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.de Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg Geschäftsführer: Peter Frank, Jürgen Krey, Matthias Schmidt Amtsgericht Nürnberg: HRB 21750 Tel.: 09872-31 43 30 -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2577 - 03/09/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2577 - Friday, March 9, 2007 Displaying actual email address not name by Shark Attack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Displaying actual email address not name by Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Displaying actual email address not name From: Shark Attack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:03:03 + Hi all; Most of the time Powermail displays the 'to' and 'from' fields of a given email using the 'real name' associated with it. (I'm talking bout when emails are listed in the Browser window, say, or in Find results). Right now I need to see those messages displayed to show the actual email address. In other words, rather than have the message displayed as being from 'Joe Bloggs (work)' I want to see that it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this possible? I've not found a preference setting that seems to handle this. And, just this one time, I need it. Rick -- Subject: Re: Displaying actual email address not name From: Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:36:47 -0500 On or about 3/9/07, Shark Attack wrote: Hi, Rick - I also was unable to find any way to display the actual email address in a browser list. It would be nice to have that as a selection in the View/View Options... settings. Right now I need to see those messages displayed to show the actual email address. In other words, rather than have the message displayed as being from 'Joe Bloggs (work)' I want to see that it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this possible? I've not found a preference setting that seems to handle this. And, just this one time, I need it. -- Don V. Zahniser -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2578 - 03/12/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2578 - Monday, March 12, 2007 GPG by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: GPG by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: GPG by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: GPG by Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: GPG From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:46:42 + Hi, Is anyone using GPG with PM? If so, any recommendations for how to go about it? (I see there's a package that installs a GPG Service, although it's in beta.) -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:20:04 +0900 Am/On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:46:42 + schrieb/wrote Tim Hodgson: Hi, Is anyone using GPG with PM? If so, any recommendations for how to go about it? (I see there's a package that installs a GPG Service, although it's in beta.) dunno, but I'd be also very interested in this. there is a new version, which is fixing a critical security whole. Until now I was using ciphire, but it seems they're unable to get a Intel version up and running for OS X. So I'd like to switch to GPG as well. All the best Matthias Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.de Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg Geschaeftsfuehrer: P. Frank, J. Krey, M. Schmidt Amtsgericht Nuernberg: HRB 21750 Tel.: 09872-31 43 30 -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:40:48 + On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:20 pm +0900, Matthias Schmidt wrote: Am/On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:46:42 + schrieb/wrote Tim Hodgson: Is anyone using GPG with PM? If so, any recommendations for how to go about it? (I see there's a package that installs a GPG Service, although it's in beta.) dunno, but I'd be also very interested in this. there is a new version, which is fixing a critical security whole. Until now I was using ciphire, but it seems they're unable to get a Intel version up and running for OS X. So I'd like to switch to GPG as well. My investigations so far: http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/ is the website to start at. GnuPG itself seems to install fine. The FAQ also recommends installing the IDEA module (I'm not clear what that is, and I haven't done so), GPGKeys, (which seems to have been superseded by GPG Keychain Access, which I've installed) and GPGDropThing (also installed). I also installed GPGServices (link on the above page), although GPGDropThing also installs some Services and I'm not sure you need both. Initial playing about suggests that it should be fairly straightforward to use, though I don't have a guinea-pig to actually send an encrypted message to at the moment! -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:26:36 +0100 On 12 March Tim Hodgson wrote: Initial playing about suggests that it should be fairly straightforward to use, though I don't have a guinea-pig to actually send an encrypted message to at the moment! I've just installed the same set. At present I have to use drag and drop or services (GPG tools) as I'm missing a means of integrating GPG with PM. I haven't found any PM scripts in the 'archive' but have found some Mailsmith scripts. Perhaps they can be adapted (?); anyone tried this? It's not really my forte. -- Charles PM 5.5.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2579 - 03/13/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2579 - Tuesday, March 13, 2007 Re: GPG by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: GPG by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: GPG by Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: GPG by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: GPG by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Displaying actual email address not name by Leonard Morgenstern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Displaying actual email address not name by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Displaying actual email address not name by Shark Attack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Displaying actual email address not name by Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Displaying actual email address not name by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:56:42 -0700 Sounds great, but if I use GnuPG on a Mac, what do I tell my PC-based correspondent to use? Richard Hart -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:17:00 +0100 Charles Watts-Jones sa såhär: I've just installed the same set. At present I have to use drag and drop or services (GPG tools) as I'm missing a means of integrating GPG with PM. I haven't found any PM scripts in the 'archive' but have found some Mailsmith scripts. Perhaps they can be adapted (?); anyone tried this? It's not really my forte. What about OS X services? Noone have done that? Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.2 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:42:07 +0100 Mikael Byström wrote: What about OS X services? Noone have done that? Yes - both GPGDropThing and Gpg Tools show in Services. And they can be made to work but neither is as smooth as PGP was in OS 9. -- Charles PM 5.5.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:48:16 + On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 7:17 pm +0100, Mikael Byström wrote: Charles Watts-Jones sa såhär: I've just installed the same set. At present I have to use drag and drop or services (GPG tools) as I'm missing a means of integrating GPG with PM. I haven't found any PM scripts in the 'archive' but have found some Mailsmith scripts. Perhaps they can be adapted (?); anyone tried this? It's not really my forte. What about OS X services? Noone have done that? Yes; as I said in my earlier post, both GPGDropScript and GPGServices install Services. The problem is that even with them, using GPG still involves rather tedious copying and pasting to get the text into or out of PM. I'm sure an AppleScript could improve things, and as Charles says, maybe scripts for other mail clients could be adapted. -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM -- Subject: Re: GPG From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:49:36 + On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 6:56 pm -0700, Richard Hart wrote: Sounds great, but if I use GnuPG on a Mac, what do I tell my PC-based correspondent to use? GnuPG on a PC? (And as I understand it, GPG is also compatible with PGP.) -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM -- Subject: Re: Displaying actual email address not name From: Leonard Morgenstern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:52:51 -0800 On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:03:03 + Shark Attack wrote: Right now I need to see those messages displayed to show the actual email address. In other words, rather than have the message displayed as being from 'Joe Bloggs (work)' I want to see that it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the same problem in reverse. I have several mail accounts and sometimes want to know which one is the source of a given message. I click on Show Full Header under the view menu and plow through the long listing to find it. The e-mail address of the sender is also there. Not a convenient method, but it works for me. I would guess that an Applescript could do the job. Len -- Leonard Morgenstern -- Subject: Re: Displaying actual email address not name From: Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:13:47 -0700 Leonard Morgenstern on 3/13/07 said On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:03:03 + Shark Attack wrote: Right now I need to see those messages displayed to show the actual email address. In other words, rather than have the
powermail-discuss Digest #2581 - 03/15/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2581 - Thursday, March 15, 2007 New Mac Finally by cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Displaying actual email address not name by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by Richard Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): New Mac Finally by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by Anthony Sanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: New Mac Finally by Tim Lapin (sympatico) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: New Mac Finally From: cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600 I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups. So many preparations to make. -- I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast, dine, write, read and receive my company. - Thomas Jefferson -- Subject: Re: Displaying actual email address not name From: Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:57:27 -0700 In case anyone at CTM is listening [which they mostly are] I'd prefer the complete actual mailing address to appear in the list rather than the short name. If there had to be a choice between one and the other. Shark Attack on 3/14/07 said Thanks Barbara; interesting workaround but not quite industrial-strength enough for me; I need to see the 'real' address of *every message* in my database -- or at least all those that have been sent to a particular domain. That's a lot of messages, far more than can be shown in the recipient list of a reply message. Good sideways thinking though. Rick Quoting Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is a sort of work around. It may not actually do what you want but by looking in two places it might help. In your browser window [not sure whether or not this works with find results]... select all the e-mails of which you want to see the real e- mail address. The tap and hold the reply button in the toolbar. You will see reply to sender, and reply to all. You should also see reply single message... choose that. [Note: this doesn't work if the reply-to is a mailing list or yahoo group]. You then should see the addresses in that fake new e- mail and can perhaps compare it to the list in the browser [or find?] window. Apple Mail has an option for showing complete addresses... probably powermail should??? -- Barbara Needham -- Barbara Needham -- Subject: Re: New Mac Finally From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:01:39 +0900 Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat: I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups. use the current version of PM which is UB and copy your PowerMail Folder. Start PowerMail by dragging the license file to the App and you should be fine. Maybe you need to point PM to the current PM folder. All the best Matthias Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.de Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg Geschaeftsfuehrer: P. Frank, J. Krey, M. Schmidt Amtsgericht Nuernberg: HRB 21750 Tel.: 09872-31 43 30
powermail-discuss Digest #2586 - 03/21/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2586 - Wednesday, March 21, 2007 Import Eudora Attachment by Lukas P. Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Import Eudora Attachment From: Lukas P. Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:02:43 +0100 Hello I tried to switch from Eudora (6.2.4) on my iMac (OS X.4.9) to PowerMail 5.5.3, but I have not been able to import the Eudora attachments. The mails are no problem, but the 700 MB attachments don't seem to be addressed when imported. Any help? Greetings Lukas -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2590 - 03/26/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2590 - Monday, March 26, 2007 Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help by Robert Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:07:08 +0200 Robert Morrison sa så här: Thanks, I did everything right the first time...I guess powermail is just too risky for me...I need reliability and it appears powermail doesn't have it. Powermail is very reliable in my experience, though migration do have minor problems from time to time. Your problems sound to me like you should export/import the address book separately or not at all. I did have problems with a large corrupt address book once and deleting and solved all problems. Doesn't Mail use Apple's Address book? So keep that and check in the preferences (Synchronization tab) that PowerMail uses the Apple address book. Don't activate synchronization now. You should also make sure that you actually are using the the PowerMail files folder that you think you'r e using. Change user environment and choose the one you assume. Also see if it's possible you have multiple PowerMail files folders. Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.2 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:06:10 +0200 Robert Morrison sa så här: Thanks, I did everything right the first time...I guess powermail is just too risky for me...I need reliability and it appears powermail doesn't have it. Powermail is very reliable in my experience, though migration do have minor problems from time to time. Your problems sound to me like you should export/import the address book separately or not at all. I did have problems with a large corrupt address book once and deleting and solved all problems. Doesn't Mail use Apple's Address book? So keep that and check in the preferences (Synchronization tab) that PowerMail uses the Apple address book. Don't activate synchronization now. You should also make sure that you actually are using the the PowerMail files folder that you think you'r e using. Change user environment and choose the one you assume. Also see if it's possible you have multiple PowerMail files folders. Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.2 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help From: Robert Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:44:46 -0500 Thanks to all for the suggestions...you are a very friendly community...but I switched back to Apple Mail. I spent a couple of hours and rebuilt my mail preferences and reimported mail files into mail and now I'm getting faster searching in Mail than I got in Powermail...the only reason I considered switching in the first place. The interface advantages of mail (e.g., smart folders, segregated mailboxes, html mail, consistent header viewing, etc) are just to much for me to give up in the end. Best, Robert On Mar 25, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Mikael Byström wrote: Robert Morrison sa så här: Thanks, I did everything right the first time...I guess powermail is just too risky for me...I need reliability and it appears powermail doesn't have it. Powermail is very reliable in my experience, though migration do have minor problems from time to time. Your problems sound to me like you should export/import the address book separately or not at all. I did have problems with a large corrupt address book once and deleting and solved all problems. Doesn't Mail use Apple's Address book? So keep that and check in the preferences (Synchronization tab) that PowerMail uses the Apple address book. Don't activate synchronization now. You should also make sure that you actually are using the the PowerMail files folder that you think you'r e using. Change user environment and choose the one you assume. Also see if it's possible you have multiple PowerMail files folders. Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.2 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2591 - 03/29/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2591 - Thursday, March 29, 2007 Powermail/SpamSieve success story by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Powermail/SpamSieve success story by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Powermail/SpamSieve success story From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:40:06 -0700 Just a story to share. I was the victim of a Joe Job--in which a spammer uses random addresses at my domain as return addresses. I received about 2,800 emails--mostly saying Returned Mail in various ways--over the course of an hour. Between SpamSieve and some hand- crafted filters in PowerMail, all but about 20 ended up in my spam box. I can only imagine the havoc this could have caused if they had ended up in my In-Box. Alan -- Subject: Re: Powermail/SpamSieve success story From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:01:59 +0900 Am/On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:40:06 -0700 schrieb/wrote Alan Harper: Just a story to share. I was the victim of a Joe Job--in which a spammer uses random addresses at my domain as return addresses. I received about 2,800 emails--mostly saying Returned Mail in various ways--over the course of an hour. Between SpamSieve and some hand- crafted filters in PowerMail, all but about 20 ended up in my spam box. I can only imagine the havoc this could have caused if they had ended up in my In-Box. I know, PM and SpamSieve are really good tools, but in your case the mailserver is set up poorly. It should reject mails for unknown users. Thanks and all the best Matthias -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2593 - 03/31/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2593 - Saturday, March 31, 2007 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:02:18 -0700 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until April 4, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2596 - 04/03/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2596 - Tuesday, April 3, 2007 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: locking PowerMail on download by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing email Problem fix (+ Req for CTM to really fix) by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing email Problem fix (+ Req for CTM to really fix) by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: locking PowerMail on download by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: locking PowerMail on download by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:00:21 -0700 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until April 4, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- Subject: Re: locking PowerMail on download From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 04:08:01 +0900 Am/On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:10:14 -0700 schrieb/wrote Alan Harper: I am getting emails, I think from Russia, that are causing PowerMail to lock up. When I get my email, it starts to download the emails (using POP), and then hangs. I have to restart PowerMail, and then it rebuilds its indices (a 5 minute process). It then hangs on the first email that it tries to download (and luckily does not have to rebuild its indices after a second force-quit). I have not isolated the email in question--it will take some time fiddling with the web-interface and I haven't had time to do so. What I do right now is go to the web interface at my ISP and delete all the spam in my inbox and then it works again. Any thoughts about what might be causing this? Is this a general problem with email clients, or a PowerMail-only issue? which version of pm are you using? 5.5.3 is the current one. I didn't had that issue anymore since a longer time. Else I'd suggest the same thing as Hiro-San did, all the best Matthias -- Subject: Re: Printing email Problem fix (+ Req for CTM to really fix) From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 16:51:16 -0700 in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Matthias Schmidt's message of 10:09 PM, 3/30/07 Am/On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:54:13 -0700 schrieb/wrote Dave N: PROBLEM: selecting Print... from the file menu (or command p) results in NO Dialog box. (as IF Print one was selected- but it's not). But it does print to the currently selected printer. Header info (to/from/subject) was missing. Only message printed. This is on plain text messages. FIX: using PM toolbar menu icon to click hold until Print... drops down select that. Now you get a dialog box a change to make a pdf, or choose printers, or choose how many copies, etc. :-) PowerMail 5.3.3 Mac OSX 10.4.x (non intel) Just installed last week. why don't you install 5.5.3 that fixed this at least for me All the best Matthias - Oh sorry, I made a typo error. I do have PowerMail 5.5.3. DaveN -- Subject: Re: Printing email Problem fix (+ Req for CTM to really fix) From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 09:49:35 +0900 Am/On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 16:51:16 -0700 schrieb/wrote Dave N: in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Matthias Schmidt's message of 10:09 PM, 3/30/07 Am/On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:54:13 -0700 schrieb/wrote Dave N: PROBLEM: selecting Print... from the file menu (or command p) results in NO Dialog box. (as IF Print one was selected- but it's not). But it does print to the currently selected printer. Header info (to/from/subject) was missing. Only message printed. This is on plain text messages. FIX: using PM toolbar menu icon to click hold until Print... drops down select that. Now you get a dialog box a change to make a pdf, or choose printers, or choose how many copies, etc. :-) PowerMail 5.3.3 Mac OSX 10.4.x (non intel) Just installed last week. why don't you install 5.5.3 that fixed this at least for me All the best Matthias - Oh sorry, I made a typo error. I do have PowerMail 5.5.3. then I guess Jérôme needs to look into that once again. It seams to work for most of us, but for some it does not ... Thanks and all the best Matthias -- Subject: Re: locking PowerMail on download From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:13:11 +0200 Alan Harper wrote: I have not isolated the email in question--it will take some time fiddling with the web-interface and I haven't had time to do so. What I do right now is go to the web interface at my ISP and delete all the spam in my inbox and then it works again. We would be very interested to get such a message, in order to reproduce and fix the
powermail-discuss Digest #2597 - 04/04/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2597 - Wednesday, April 4, 2007
Re: locking PowerMail on download
by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: locking PowerMail on download
From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:19:10 +0200
Dave N wrote:
Would it be just as helpful if one were to use webmail to Redirect the
bad message to you?
If you can identify a message causing problem, the best is to save the
raw message in a text file in raw format (either from the webmail or be
retrieving it with Mail) then send me this text file. You can 'redirect'
it as well ('forward' is not an option, as it modifies the message, so
it might not be possible to reproduce the problem) as long as you give
me in a separate message enough information so I can find the redirected
message in my spam folder (these problematic message are almost
certainly spam).
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powermail-discuss Digest #2598 - 04/05/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2598 - Thursday, April 5, 2007 Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:13:05 -0700 I would REALLY like it if PowerMail could forward a HTML mail without destroying it into plain text. In many cases, this completely changes the message. - Now I'm just as big of a fan of plain text email as anybody else here. BUT it's embarrassing to have to redirect an email and then follow up with a separate email with my connects about why I fwd/redirected that email to them. Or even worse, FWD the email, and then field the question about why none of the links work, there are no pictures, etc. I'm trying to sell businesses on PowerMail, but lack of html support is making PowerMail look like LowPowerMail. Obviously, PowerMail can redirect the mail, so it must be possible to forward it as well. If it's too much programming work to have PowerMail create correctly deal with html mails, then what kind of work-arounds can be done? How about forwarding the message as an attachment? That would be a place to start. Can we please have that as a feature request? Best, DaveN -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2599 - 04/06/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2599 - Friday, April 6, 2007 Re: Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:13:57 -0500 The following steps do what you want: a) select open (received HTML message) in web browser. b) in your browser save page as WEB ARCHIVE to your desktop c) in PM select the HTML message and select FORWARD d) ensure the forward message is set to plain text, now delete everything except possibly the header info part, i.e. date and subject under begin forwarded message, if you think this is important, else hit select-all and then delete. e) add text to gusto. f) drag the saved out web archive onto the forward message, which is now an attachment. g) send. People will receive a perfect html page with all links and images. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - I would REALLY like it if PowerMail could forward a HTML mail without destroying it into plain text. In many cases, this completely changes the message. - Now I'm just as big of a fan of plain text email as anybody else here. BUT it's embarrassing to have to redirect an email and then follow up with a separate email with my connects about why I fwd/redirected that email to them. Or even worse, FWD the email, and then field the question about why none of the links work, there are no pictures, etc. I'm trying to sell businesses on PowerMail, but lack of html support is making PowerMail look like LowPowerMail. Obviously, PowerMail can redirect the mail, so it must be possible to forward it as well. If it's too much programming work to have PowerMail create correctly deal with html mails, then what kind of work-arounds can be done? How about forwarding the message as an attachment? That would be a place to start. Can we please have that as a feature request? Best, DaveN -- Subject: Re: Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ From: Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 16:58:51 -0400 Marlyse Comte sez: a) select open (received HTML message) in web browser. b) in your browser save page as WEB ARCHIVE to your desktop c) in PM select the HTML message and select FORWARD d) ensure the forward message is set to plain text, now delete everything except possibly the header info part, i.e. date and subject under begin forwarded message, if you think this is important, else hit select-all and then delete. e) add text to gusto. f) drag the saved out web archive onto the forward message, which is now an attachment. g) send. Ick. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- Subject: Re: Forwarding a html message :: 2 FEATURE REQ From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 16:36:10 -0500 hehe... but REMEMBER...e) is optional, so it's not 7 but only 6 and a) I myself anyhow always do so it's down to 5 and c) and g) have to be done in the first place if it's a forward, so in the end it's down to only 3 little via steps... not THAT icky compared to all the save email one can download... :-) ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - Marlyse Comte sez: a) select open (received HTML message) in web browser. b) in your browser save page as WEB ARCHIVE to your desktop c) in PM select the HTML message and select FORWARD d) ensure the forward message is set to plain text, now delete everything except possibly the header info part, i.e. date and subject under begin forwarded message, if you think this is important, else hit select-all and then delete. e) add text to gusto. f) drag the saved out web archive onto the forward message, which is now an attachment. g) send. Ick. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2600 - 04/07/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2600 - Saturday, April 7, 2007 how not to set my reply-to on lists? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: how not to set my reply-to on lists? by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: how not to set my reply-to on lists? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:00:37 +0200 I am sending emails to a small maillist with powermail and have been told that my preset 'reply-to' field was a burden to everyone... How can I remove this reply-to? Shall I have to create a separate account? (but even then, where is this setting?) TIA! Hervé -- Subject: Re: how not to set my reply-to on lists? From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 17:01:40 +0900 Am/On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:00:37 +0200 schrieb/wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am sending emails to a small maillist with powermail and have been told that my preset 'reply-to' field was a burden to everyone... How can I remove this reply-to? just leave the field empty in the setup for your account empty and you should be fine. The field is usually set if you want to have a different reply-to address and the one you sent the mail with. And this would be unappreciated in a list. Shall I have to create a separate account? (but even then, where is this setting?) that's what I find to be most practical, having different mail-addresses for different purposes. Thanks and all the best Matthias -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2601 - 04/08/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2601 - Sunday, April 8, 2007 Re: how not to set my reply-to on lists? by listes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: how not to set my reply-to on lists? From: listes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 20:50:46 +0200 Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sending emails to a small maillist with powermail and have been told that my preset 'reply-to' field was a burden to everyone... How can I remove this reply-to? just leave the field empty in the setup for your account empty and you should be fine. The field is usually set if you want to have a different reply-to address and the one you sent the mail with. And this would be unappreciated in a list. Thanks Matthias for this! I'm really silly not to have seen it myself :-) Hervé -- remove .listes and add a dot after fh please enlevez .listes et ajoutez un point après fh -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2602 - 04/09/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2602 - Monday, April 9, 2007 Feature Request: GnuPG in PM by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Feature Request: GnuPG in PM From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 21:26:51 +0900 Hello, there plugins for GnuPG in Mail, Thunderbird, Mailsmith and others. For Eudora there are some AppleScripts .. something like that for PM already? imho inline support or a Plugin for GnuPGP would be also a nice and great feature for PM. all the best Matthias -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2603 - 04/10/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2603 - Tuesday, April 10, 2007 Re(2): locking PowerMail on download by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): locking PowerMail on download by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re(2): locking PowerMail on download From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:25:16 -0700 As I said, PowerMail locks up. Clicking on the X has no effect. What you are seeing is different than what I am talking about. Thx On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:24:46 -0400 A-NO-NE Music said: I usually click on (X), which results in an ghost message. I use Download Now to see if it was a SPAM, and it is always has been. -- Subject: Re(2): locking PowerMail on download From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:36:52 -0700 Jérôme I wanted to isolate this for you, but so far I can't. I just received two more emails like this today. My ISP uses Horde as a web interface to email, and I did the following: 1) Confirm which message was causing the problem 2) Copy the offending email to another folder in Horde 3) Delete (and purge) the offending message 4) Confirm that I could now download emails with the offending email removed However, the problem is that if I now copy the email from the other folder back to my In Box, POWERMAIL NO LONGER HANGS ON THE EMAIL. I suspect that this is a problem with a malformed email (eg, malformed headers) that are fixed when I copy the email from one folder to the other. I will forward to Jérôme the offending emails privately, and I will think about how I might be able to isolate them. FWIW, they appear to be emails in Russian which don't correctly identify the character set used. They do not appear to be spam, they are an undelivered mail message in response to a spammer who is using my return address. A On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:13:11 +0200 PowerMail Engineering said: Alan Harper wrote: I have not isolated the email in question--it will take some time fiddling with the web-interface and I haven't had time to do so. What I do right now is go to the web interface at my ISP and delete all the spam in my inbox and then it works again. We would be very interested to get such a message, in order to reproduce and fix the problem. If you can't isolate the specific message causing the problem, maybe you can create a temporary account in another mail client (Apple Mail for example) then retrieve the messages there (make sure that this other mail client does not delete the message from the server, to avoid missing some messages in PowerMail); then if you send me the Apple Mail mailbox I can check if it contains a message that can cause problems in PowerMail. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Powermail's search capabilities, already mind-boggling fast, seem to be even faster. You'll never say I think I have that in an email somewhere, ever again. Because, you'll know in a half second. PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2604 - 04/11/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2604 - Wednesday, April 11, 2007 Mail Accounts by Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Mail Accounts From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:49:25 +0100 Hi all: How can I ensure that PM *automatically* checks all of my mail accounts simultaneously? Although I've been a PM user for ages, It's not something I've needed to do until recently. At present if I press the 'send/receive' button it appears to only connect to the default mail setting rather than check all of the accounts at the same time. I can use the drop down menu to connect to them individually, but I want them all done with one-click so to speak. cheers, Chris PM 553 (PPC) -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2605 - 04/12/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2605 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 Re: Mail Accounts by Pat O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connection Failure on existing, good account by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Graham B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Error -199 by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Connection Failure on existing, good account by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Error -199 by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Error -199 by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Shark Attack Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Mail Accounts From: Pat O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:21:24 +0100 It appears that on 11/4/07 at 18:49 Chris spake thus: How can I ensure that PM *automatically* checks all of my mail accounts simultaneously? Although I've been a PM user for ages, It's not something I've needed to do until recently. Use Setup-Mail scheduling and locations... -- Pat O'Halloranhttp://www.danu.co.uk There are only 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. -- Subject: Re: Mail Accounts From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:24:36 -0400 Chris / 2007/04/11 / 01:49 PM wrote: At present if I press the 'send/receive' button it appears to only connect to the default mail setting rather than check all of the accounts at the same time. I can use the drop down menu to connect to them individually, but I want them all done with one-click so to speak. Command+K maybe? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- Subject: Connection Failure on existing, good account From: Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:10:23 -0500 PowerMail's been giving me a problem today: I have it checking a bunch of different accounts (some on a regular mail server, some on gmail, some on .mac), and *one* of them won't connect suddenly. It's a gmail account, not a new one, and I should point out that several other gmail accounts are connecting just fine right now. The error message is: Connection Error Make sure your internet connection is active. Anyone ever see this before? Could this be a corrupted pref file or something? OS X 10.4.8, PM 5.5.3 Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Mail Accounts From: Graham B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:31:07 +1000 On or about Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:49:25 +0100 Chris said - Hi all: How can I ensure that PM *automatically* checks all of my mail accounts simultaneously? Although I've been a PM user for ages, It's not something I've needed to do until recently. At present if I press the 'send/receive' button it appears to only connect to the default mail setting rather than check all of the accounts at the same time. I can use the drop down menu to connect to them individually, but I want them all done with one-click so to speak. cheers, Chris PM 553 (PPC) Hi Chris, Click and hold on the 'Connect' icon, and a drop down list of your accounts will show, the top two items will be 'Connect Again' and 'Connect...' Select 'Connect...' and check the boxes next to the accounts you want PM to check. Cheers Graham -- Subject: Error -199 From: Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:03:23 -0700 When I double-click my Mail Database, or attempt to Switch User Environment... to it, PowerMail reports Error -199. Does anyone know what that means? Richard Hart -- Subject: Re: Connection Failure on existing, good account From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:39:10 +0900 Am/On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:10:23 -0500 schrieb/wrote Steve Abrahamson: PowerMail's been giving me a problem today: I have it checking a bunch of different accounts (some on a regular mail server, some on gmail, some on .mac), and *one* of them won't connect suddenly. It's a gmail account, not a new one, and I should point out that several other gmail accounts are
powermail-discuss Digest #2606 - 04/13/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2606 - Friday, April 13, 2007 Re: Error -199 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Error -199 by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Error -199 by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Turning indexing on by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Mail Accounts by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Turning indexing on by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Error -199 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:18:48 -0700 (PDT) It seems to be neither a User Prefs problem, nor a volume read problem. The error travels with the folder, not with Preferences. Command-option launching PowerMail and checking all the boxes to rebuild everything returns the same Error -199. I have: DriveSTUP/~/Mail/PowerMail Files/ DriveBKUP/~/Mail/PowerMail Files/ DriveSTUP is my Startup drive. DriveBKUP is a backup that is 1 week old. PowerMail opens the one on DriveBKUP OK, whether I start up from either drive. PowerMail throws an Error -199 when I try to open the one on DriveSTUP, whether I start up from either drive. PowerMail throws an Error -199 when copy the problem mail folder from DriveSTUP to any other rdrive, including DriveBKP. If something is corrupt, what is it? Is there any way to recover that database? -- Subject: Re: Error -199 From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:44:15 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PowerMail throws an Error -199 when I try to open the one on DriveSTUP, whether I start up from either drive. PowerMail throws an Error -199 when copy the problem mail folder from DriveSTUP to any other rdrive, including DriveBKP. If restoring User Prefs from DriveBKP did not work, try to remove the Custom Scripts folder (unless if it is empty) or the PM2 import status file, if it is present. You can also check you drive with Disk First Aid, but I am not sure if it checks corrupted resource files. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Powermail soon became the most indispensable program in my life, and now that I've upgraded to the newest version, I'm pleased to report that it's gotten even better. PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re: Error -199 From: Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:53:47 -0700 I solved my problem using egg cloning. I have a Bad PowerMail Files folder. (PowerMail can not open it.) I have a Good PowerMail Files folder. (PowerMail CAN open it.) (1) Duplicate the Good folder. (2) Copy Message Database from the Bad folder to the Good folder, overwriting the existing Databse. (3) Switch User to the hybrid folder. Success! Richard Hart -- Subject: Re: Mail Accounts From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:08:00 -0700 So how DO you unlock that petrol cap??? :-) Dave in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Shark Attack Design's message of 12:39 AM, 4/12/07 We've all been there Chris; if it's any consolation, I just bought a new (ish) car and, the first time I came to put fuel in it, I spent 15 minutes trying to work out how to unlock the petrol cap. I even had to call the dealer. Rick -- Subject: Turning indexing on From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:40:08 -0700 As part of my spam filter, I say Don't Index Message if it is spam. How do I turn on indexing for emails that I want indexed? The switch appears to be permanent. A -- Subject: Re: Mail Accounts From: Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:29:45 +0100 A combination of key and brute force. The confusion came from the fact that when it's unlocked, it *feels* locked -- and you need to apply some strength to twist it free. When it's locked it just rotates freely, which feels broken, but isn't, evidently. New car, new ways. And now, back to our regularly scheduled topics... Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode Shark Attack: A Design Studio www.sharkattack.co.uk -- Original message: Received from Dave N on 12/4/07 at 23:08 So how DO you unlock that petrol cap??? :-) -- Subject: Re: Turning indexing on From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:04:48 +0200 Alan Harper wrote:
powermail-discuss Digest #2607 - 04/14/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2607 - Saturday, April 14, 2007 Re(2): Turning indexing on by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re(2): Turning indexing on From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:53:21 -0700 OK, thanks On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:04:48 +0200 PowerMail Engineering said: Alan Harper wrote: As part of my spam filter, I say Don't Index Message if it is spam. How do I turn on indexing for emails that I want indexed? The switch appears to be permanent. Mark as good. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - I'd been using Entourage X ever since switching to Macs 2 years ago and was growing frustrated with its slow searches and increasing instability as my database grew. Decided to look for an alternative and tried Mail, MailSmith, Thunderbird and PowerMail. Settled on PowerMail and am extremely happy with this application. PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2608 - 04/15/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2608 - Sunday, April 15, 2007 From Emailer to PowerMail by Joe Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: From Emailer to PowerMail by Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: From Emailer to PowerMail From: Joe Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:50:16 -0700 I've been considering a change from Emailer to PowerMail for about 2 years. On March 1st of this year I made the switch. Now after a month of really using PowerMail, here is my wish list - if PowerMail already can do some of these things I would appreciate your tips! Thanks. Logs - recent mail - any way to retain dated lists of messages that arrived in predetermined time periods Save Text to Many - this Applescript can be very handy for creating searchable text from selected mail or the contents of a folder- for example - all mail related to a specific trade show or product. Filters - I understand the value of using a stop filter but it would be helpful to be able to run a sequence of filters after the stop...not just single filters Where can I find a succinct description of synchronizing between the PM address book and the Mac address book Is there a place to see mail database statistics - number of folders messages? My wife and I share access to one PowerMail installation. It would be really helpful to be able to toggle our two default sending accounts by a single keystroke...or perhaps be able to tab into the account box when setting up an outgoing new message - now we leave the sender blank select it from the Account pulldown list Is there a list of Applescripts other than those provided with PowerMail Is there a way to mark incoming messages as read (checkmark) after they have been automatically forwarded by a filter without losing the indication that they have been forwarded I would like to be able to open the mail browser from the recent mail window by clicking on a toolbar icon Joe Hallett Tualatin, OR USA -- Subject: Re: From Emailer to PowerMail From: Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:27:14 -0400 Hi, Joe - Let me see if I can help with some of your wish list: On or about 4/14/07, Joe Hallett wrote: I've been considering a change from Emailer to PowerMail for about 2 years. On March 1st of this year I made the switch. Now after a month of really using PowerMail, here is my wish list - if PowerMail already can do some of these things I would appreciate your tips! Thanks. Logs - recent mail - any way to retain dated lists of messages that arrived in predetermined time periods The Find function has date fields. You can find messages received or sent before and/or after specific dates or time windows. From the toolbar, click and hold on the Find (magnifying glass) icon and choose 'Search Messages For best (fastest) results, make sure that you have indexing turned on in the preferences. The Find function also seems to 'remember' the last search you did for each of the listed categories. Save Text to Many - this Applescript can be very handy for creating searchable text from selected mail or the contents of a folder- for example - all mail related to a specific trade show or product. Not really sure what you are asking for here, but again, the Find function has many options for searching for text. You can highlight text in a message, Choose Copy (or Command-V) and open the Find dialog. Your copied text will be displayed. Filters - I understand the value of using a stop filter but it would be helpful to be able to run a sequence of filters after the stop...not just single filters I haven't found the need, but you can have an Applescript perform filter functions, and run that as an action at the end of a filter. Where can I find a succinct description of synchronizing between the PM address book and the Mac address book Go to the Help menu, and choose Manual There is a brief description of this in the section on Preferences. Is there a place to see mail database statistics - number of folders messages? Other than an AppleScript for counting messages in the database (see source below) I don't know of anything. My wife and I share access to one PowerMail installation. It would be really helpful to be able to toggle our two default sending accounts by a single keystroke...or perhaps be able to tab into the account box when setting up an outgoing new message - now we leave the sender blank select it from the Account pulldown list That's how I toggle between sending accounts. Are you sharing one Mac User account as well? If you each have a User account, you would each have your own PowerMail user folder with your own mail. Is there a list of Applescripts other than those provided with PowerMail There are some at: http://www.ctmdev.com/support/ Hit the
powermail-discuss Digest #2594 - 04/01/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2594 - Sunday, April 1, 2007 automatic reply by [EMAIL PROTECTED] attachments by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: automatic reply by Ben Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: attachments by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: attachments by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: attachments by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Printing email Problem fix (+ Req for CTM to really fix) by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: attachments by Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: automatic reply From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:01:04 -0700 Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until April 4, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... z -- Subject: attachments From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:35:38 -0500 When I was cleaning out the other day old messages and archiving them, I suddenly realized that my attachment folder is choke full with attachments from spam email. I daily delete spam and up to now I thought that when I empty trash attachments get automatically trashed too... but why then would I have 2,000 spam attachments in my attachment folder? Can somebody refresh my - obviously weak memory - on how to ensure that attachments do get trashed when the message gets trashed? Thanks, ---marlyse -- Subject: Re: automatic reply From: Ben Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:20:46 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote at 11:01 AM (-0700) on 3/31/07: Thanks for your email, but alas! I won't be able to read it until April 4, when I return from Elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting back to you then... Zeph, Your auto-reply is still misconfigured. It is replying to a bulk list. -ben -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca -- Subject: Re: attachments From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:53:47 -0700 Well, I tried to show you using an attachment, but this list rejects attachments. In the filter Spam: Actions (at least that is what mine is called) use Move attachments to trash. Consider using don't index and others as well. A On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:35:38 -0500 Marlyse Comte said: When I was cleaning out the other day old messages and archiving them, I suddenly realized that my attachment folder is choke full with attachments from spam email. I daily delete spam and up to now I thought that when I empty trash attachments get automatically trashed too... but why then would I have 2,000 spam attachments in my attachment folder? Can somebody refresh my - obviously weak memory - on how to ensure that attachments do get trashed when the message gets trashed? Thanks, ---marlyse -- Subject: Re: attachments From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:37:55 -0500 I DO have that enabled, so it must be something else in addition? Thanks for your input. ---marlyse On Mar 31, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Alan Harper wrote: In the filter Spam: Actions (at least that is what mine is called) use Move attachments to trash. Consider using don't index and others as well. -- Subject: Re: attachments From: Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:31:51 -0700 Marlyse Comte on 3/31/07 said On Mar 31, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Alan Harper wrote: In the filter Spam: Actions (at least that is what mine is called) use Move attachments to trash. Consider using don't index and others as well. I DO have that enabled, so it must be something else in addition? Thanks for your input. Are you talking about actual attachments? Or those annoying gif things and related objects that appear when someone uses stationery.. like lines, little smiley faces, etc. My attachment directory is kind of full of those also. -- Barbara Needham -- Subject: Re(2): Printing email Problem fix (+ Req for CTM to really fix) From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 05:29:23 -0700 Dave At least on my computer, you left out a step to replicate this bug--the email in question must be displayed using Show HTML, printing works as it should when Show Plain Text and Header is chosen. How long has this bug been in Powermail unfixed??? A On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:54:13 -0700 Dave N said: PROBLEM: selecting Print... from the file menu (or command p) results in NO Dialog box. (as IF Print one was selected-
powermail-discuss Digest #2609 - 04/16/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2609 - Monday, April 16, 2007 Some pre-sale questions by Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Some pre-sale questions by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email by Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Some pre-sale questions by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Error -199 by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Some pre-sale questions From: Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:50:39 +0900 I used to use PowerMail - I think it was v3, but gave it up because it kept on crashing and indexed search results never seemed appropriate. I have two questions: 1. In the home page product description it says Indexing itself typically takes less that 1/20th of a second per received message, and mail databases of up to 2048 megabytes can instantly and precisely mined using a variety of search criteriae. My current Apple mail database is about 3GB in size. Is the 2048 megabytes a database limit? 2. Is there now the ability to create HTML mail or rich text mail? Thanks! doug -- Subject: Re: Some pre-sale questions From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:07:12 -0500 1) yes, this would be a limit for you. 2) no .. sorry, doesn't seem to fit your shoes. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - My current Apple mail database is about 3GB in size. Is the 2048 megabytes a database limit? 2. Is there now the ability to create HTML mail or rich text mail? -- Subject: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:54:49 -0400 Due to an odd failure of 10.3.9 I finally upgraded to OS 10. -- Subject: Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:57:47 -0400 Never could type. Hit enter while trying to hit . Sorry. Anyway, I am running OS 10.4.9. When I try to print HTML email I get an empty box with a subject line at the top. Can I print HTML email (as HTML) from PowerMail? PowerMail 5.5.3 Thanks. - Winston Due to an odd failure of 10.3.9 I finally upgraded to OS 10. -- Subject: Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email From: Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:29:15 -0400 On or about 4/15/07, Winston Weinmann wrote: Anyway, I am running OS 10.4.9. When I try to print HTML email I get an empty box with a subject line at the top. Can I print HTML email (as HTML) from PowerMail? Hi, Winston - When you have an HTML email displayed, click on the body of the HTML message so that it is highlighted. If you then choose File/Print... (or choose 'Print...' from the drop-down menu that shows when you click and hold on the Print icon) the HTML portion (only) will be printed. No header information. Also, the printing happens on my system immediately with no intermediate Preview dialog. -- Don V. Zahniser PowerMac G4 Cube, 450 MHz, Mac OS 10.4.9, 1.25 GB RAM -- Subject: Re: Some pre-sale questions From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:38:28 +0200 Doug Lerner wrote: My current Apple mail database is about 3GB in size. Is the 2048 megabytes a database limit? 2 GB is the limit of the message database size; however attachments are stored in a Finder folder instead of being stored in the message database file, so your Apple Mail database may fit in this limit. 2. Is there now the ability to create HTML mail or rich text mail? No Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Powermail soon became the most indispensable program in my life, and now that I've upgraded to the newest version, I'm pleased to report that it's gotten even better. PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com - -- Subject: Re: Error -199 From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:22:25 +0200 Richard Hart said: I solved my problem using egg cloning. I have a Bad PowerMail
powermail-discuss Digest #2610 - 04/17/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2610 - Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2 questions about 1) POP retrieving, 2) show simple header by Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spontaneous font change by David Teplow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: 2 questions about 1) POP retrieving, 2) show simple header by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): 2 questions about 1) POP retrieving, 2) show simple header by Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: 2 questions about 1) POP retrieving, 2) show simple header From: Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:59:10 -0400 I use PM 5.5.2b3 with Tiger 10.4.9 on a MacBook Pro and would greatly appreciate help with 2 questions. 1) I work with POP accounts only, and PM checks 10 of them every minute. I've always left the setting on the default to retrieve mails from the POP accounts one at a time. Is there any downside or risk to changing that to retrieve mail from the POP accounts simultaneously? If it makes a difference, 5 of the POP accounts are from various domains that are all on one server. 2) Whenever my mail is displayed, I would like it if it always showed it with the simple header (i.e., the show simple header option). But whenever I change it to that option or try to make the setting permanent, it always eventually changes to some other option. I'm probably overlooking something very obvious and would appreciate some suggestions. Thanks, as always, for your help. Ken -- Subject: Spontaneous font change From: David Teplow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:31:24 -0700 Spontaneously, the font that is rendered in return messages has become Lucide Grande 20 pt. I can't seem to change this back to the default font of Verdana 12. Can anyone help? Thanks. -- Subject: Re: 2 questions about 1) POP retrieving, 2) show simple header From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:31:45 +0900 Am/On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:59:10 -0400 schrieb/wrote Ken Pope: I use PM 5.5.2b3 with Tiger 10.4.9 on a MacBook Pro and would greatly appreciate help with 2 questions. beta phase is finished since a long time. current version is 5.5.3 1) I work with POP accounts only, and PM checks 10 of them every minute. I've always left the setting on the default to retrieve mails from the POP accounts one at a time. Is there any downside or risk to changing that to retrieve mail from the POP accounts simultaneously? If it makes a difference, 5 of the POP accounts are from various domains that are all on one server. well, there is. PM uses more ressources while chekcing mor accounts in the same time. If you want to write mail in the same time, you'd better prolong the period of checking. imho every 15 min is sufficient enough. 2) Whenever my mail is displayed, I would like it if it always showed it with the simple header (i.e., the show simple header option). But whenever I change it to that option or try to make the setting permanent, it always eventually changes to some other option. to which option? I'm probably overlooking something very obvious and would appreciate some suggestions. you have 2 options, which can be combined. short headers is the stuff on the top with Subject, From, To etc long headers are usually shown on the bottom (if you switch them on the first time pm shows it above the body = text of mail). The long headers option include all headers. you can switch both options on or both off or have only one of them. Thanks and all the best Matthias -- Subject: Re(2): 2 questions about 1) POP retrieving, 2) show simple header From: Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:19:03 -0400 Thanks for your comments, Matthias! Interspersed below are my answers to your questions. I would atill greatly appreciate suggestions about Whenever my mail is displayed, I would like it if it always showed it with the simple header (i.e., the show simple header option). But whenever I change it to that option or try to make the setting permanent, it always eventually changes to some other option. to which option? most often it switches back to not showing any header. I'm probably overlooking something very obvious and would appreciate some suggestions. you have 2 options, which can be combined. short headers is the stuff on the top with Subject, From, To etc long headers are usually shown on the bottom (if you switch them on the first time pm shows it above the body = text of mail). The long headers option include all headers. you can switch both options on or both off or have only one of them. I have used
powermail-discuss Digest #2611 - 04/18/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2611 - Wednesday, April 18, 2007 Attachs by Francisco Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Attachs by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email by Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Error -199 by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Attachs From: Francisco Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:37:24 +0100 I'm a new user of PowerMail. I've problems with some attachs, specialy MS Word attachs. The attachs appears with no .doc extension and the name of the document is replaced by ISO-8859-1 -- Francisco José dos Santos Pereira R. D. Maria José Fernandes, 533 2425-876 Souto da Carpalhosa Portugal +351244613142 http://homepage.mac.com/pe.francisco -- Subject: Re: Attachs From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:48:27 +0900 Am/On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:37:24 +0100 schrieb/wrote Francisco Pereira: I'm a new user of PowerMail. I've problems with some attachs, specialy MS Word attachs. The attachs appears with no .doc extension and the name of the document is replaced by ISO-8859-1 that's not done by PowerMail. There's something else involved here. Recently I also received jpg documents without suffix. but I could open them just fine. So maybe you start Word and try to open the document or you just rename it. Not sure, but to me it seams that Outlook is the culprit. Ask the sender to zip the docs. Thanks and all the best Matthias -- Subject: Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email From: Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:33:23 -0400 On Tuesday, April 17, 2007, Winston Weinmann sent forth: Don - Thanks, but this is a workaround, not a solution. I do not like things printing immediately. I usually preview them first, particularly emails, which often have stuff I do not need at the end. Sometimes I only need to print the first page. PowerMail should print HTML email the same way a web browser prints it. Is there a fix in sight? - Winston Good question. I just tested it and PM 5.5.3 definitely prints without invoking the dialog box. More intriguing is that the print command actually turns on my USB connected HP 990cse inkjet I didn't think that was even possible. I guess the power button is actually a stand-by button, at least in the USB configuration. Oh well. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] G4/AGP/400OS 10.3.9PowerMail 5.5.3 640 MB RAM 2x40 GB HDs -- Subject: Re: OS 10.4.9, PowerMail 5.5.3 - still can't print HTML email From: Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:34:19 +0900 Am/On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:33:23 -0400 schrieb/wrote Tim Lapin: On Tuesday, April 17, 2007, Winston Weinmann sent forth: Don - Thanks, but this is a workaround, not a solution. I do not like things printing immediately. I usually preview them first, particularly emails, which often have stuff I do not need at the end. Sometimes I only need to print the first page. PowerMail should print HTML email the same way a web browser prints it. why then you don't print it from the browser ? simple click on the button on the bottom with the little globe and choose open in browser. Thanks and all the best Matthias -- Subject: Re: Error -199 From: Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:34:55 -0700 Mikael wrote: Try to see if the address book is bad in the non-working folder. I've had a similar problem resolved replacing that. If I copy the Address Book from the non-working folder, I do have trouble, so maybe that was it. Richard -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2613 - 04/20/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2613 - Friday, April 20, 2007 Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bug or feature ? by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wake from sleep message checking fixed! by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bug or feature ? by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Wake from sleep message checking fixed! by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Viewing winmail.dat files by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bug or feature ? by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bug or feature ? by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Database by Derry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bug or feature ? by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(3): bug or feature ? by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bug or feature ? by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:34:23 +0100 On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 4:59 pm -0700, Barbara Needham wrote: I prefer text e-mails so that is another factor with me pro PowerMail. I don't think any of the people asking for better HTML support are saying they _prefer_ HTML mail; simply that they have to live with receiving it. -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.8 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM -- Subject: Re(2): bug or feature ? From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:46:35 -0400 Michael Lewis wrote: Why should I care if my email program can print HTML as long as one click takes me to a browser that does? PowerMail pretends to print HTML email properly, and does not warn users that it does not. I am not complaining that PM does not print HTML. I am complaining that PowerMail appears to be able to print HTML email, but can't do it right. Printing is a basic feature. In non-beta software (email or not) I expect it to work properly. You should care because if you are like many people, your email is an important part of your life. If CTM does not consider such a basic feature worth fixing, don't you worry about how CTM will deal with less obvious but perhaps more consequential problems? - Winston -- Subject: Wake from sleep message checking fixed! From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:52:08 -0400 After my upgrade from Mac OS 10.3.9 to 10.4.9 PowerMail now waits until my wireless connection is re-established before it checks for new mail. No more error messages because PM tries to check mail before AirPort was up. (PowerMail 5.5.3) I don't know whether to thank CTM, Apple or both, but thanks! - Winston -- Subject: Re(2): bug or feature ? From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:58:52 -0400 Wayne Brissette wrote: And as an old timer myself. I'm just as tired of people trying to make PM an HTML email client. Having a text email client has so many advantages that I'm not sure where to begin. Probably the two most important are that there is no way of faking people out and trying to make it seem like the link they are clicking on belongs to one place when it actually goes somewhere else. The other major advantage is it's hard to embed any type of virus code except as an attachment. I think the bottom line is no matter what path is chosen nobody is ever 100% happy. As for the future of PM, who knows. People have written this company and product off for years, yet it still lives on. Wayne Please note that I am not asking for PowerMail to become an HTML-based program. I just want it to print the way one expects. I agree with you on the security issues. On web browsers I keep the Status Bar active. Then when I put the cursor on a link it shows me where the link goes before I click. - Winston -- Subject: Re: Wake from sleep message checking fixed! From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:04:30 -0400 Winston Weinmann / 2007/04/19 / 02:52 PM wrote: After my upgrade from Mac OS 10.3.9 to 10.4.9 PowerMail now waits until my wireless connection is re-established before it checks for new mail. No more error messages because PM tries to check mail before AirPort was up. (PowerMail 5.5.3) Really?! My AlBook goes with me everywhere. If
powermail-discuss Digest #2614 - 04/21/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2614 - Saturday, April 21, 2007 Re: bug or feature ? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bug or feature ? by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sending email to one particular address always fails by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Sending email to one particular address always fails by computer artwork by subhash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Sending email to one particular address always fails by A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: bug or feature ? From: Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:44:17 -0400 Winston Weinmann sez: Has anyone else noticed that mail composed in HTML sometimes is hard to read when rendered in text because the layout does not work well in text? It'll do that if the mail client doesn't follow the protocols and provide a text version that goes with the HTML version. And I am going to bow out of this neverending discussion since I can see people wish to continue twisting things. It's a fine thing when people can't provide their experiences and reasons for how they do things, along with the workarounds that work for them just fine, without being deconstructed until whatever they said is being used to support an entirely different argument. I never said anyone else should shut up or not say they wanted a change or anything, and yet I keep getting quoted in these threads. I only provided my personal needs and if CTM decides the rest of you are right then fine. As far as I'm concerned this was never a right or wrong thing. I provided what I do the few times I need to print HTML mail, and this is all I get back? Oh well. Life goes on outside the Net. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- Subject: Re(2): bug or feature ? From: Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:16:03 -0400 Michael Lewis wrote: I provided what I do the few times I need to print HTML mail, and this is all I get back? Michael, I am sorry you feel that way. I said in an earlier message that I appreciated your input on what works for you, and thanked you for the comment on CTM not discussing future plans. I still appreciate your comments, even the ones I do not agree with. All of it provides feedback to CTM. - Winston -- Subject: Re: bug or feature ? From: Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:01:13 -0400 Winston Weinmann sez: I said in an earlier message that I appreciated your input on what works for you, and thanked you for the comment on CTM not discussing future plans. That's true. Sorry for my weak moment there. I just didn't feel things were as being portrayed, and I had had a bad day. I still don't think some of the characterizations are exactly right, but I apologize for the rest. :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- Subject: Re: bug or feature ? From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:26:16 -0400 Besides I too feel HTML printing issue is a problem and needs to be taken care of, whether you call it bug or not, there is something else. I do handful of beta testings for many different vendors. The beta testing lists often depends on inline images. PM can't display them unless the original message was HTML. On the other hand, more often than not, I get multipart/mixed; boundary message which shows no content, just blank body, unless I switch PM display to HTML. This is a bug. I used to delete them thinking they are sent by mistake. The biggest problem is, and I don't know when and how this happens, some messages comes with two HTML files and one generic image file. I currently have 165 picture 1 files related to one beta testing, and there is no way tracking them, especially PM looses link path in a month or so. Yes, this is another problem. Message which is a month or two old shows attachment list in gray. I have to go to Attachment folder to find the file by its name. This has been this way since I start using PM. I have posted this problem a few times but it seems I am the only one having this problem. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com -- Subject: Sending email to one particular address always fails From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:45:46 -0400 Hi all, I'm having a very weird problem. I create a new email, enter some subject and body,
powermail-discuss Digest #2615 - 04/22/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2615 - Sunday, April 22, 2007 Re: Sending email to one particular address always fails by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Attachment link failing WAS Re(2): bug or feature ? by Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Sending email to one particular address always fails From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:52:40 +0100 On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 4:13 pm -0400, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Sean McBride / 2007/04/21 / 10:45 AM wrote: Why might that be? It only seems to happen with this one email address. Your SMTP doesn't like the address maybe? There are a lot of weird mail addresses for mobile phone in Japan. My Comcast SMTP doesn't like them so I have to use mac.com SMTP for these. If you turn on 'Error notification - display alert' in Preferences, you get a slightly more informative error message. (See threads passim about the desirability of an error log :) -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.9 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM -- Subject: Re: Attachment link failing WAS Re(2): bug or feature ? From: Alan Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:40:51 -0700 Hiro I can confirm that I also do NOT have this problem (perhaps you are the only one!) One thing I love about PowerMail is that it usually can track an attachment link even after I move the attachment to another folder and rename the file. (Though I usually have to quit and relaunch the program). I assume it uses aliases to track attachments. A On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:26:16 -0400 A-NO-NE Music said: Yes, this is another problem. Message which is a month or two old shows attachment list in gray. I have to go to Attachment folder to find the file by its name. This has been this way since I start using PM. I have posted this problem a few times but it seems I am the only one having this problem. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2616 - 04/23/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2616 - Monday, April 23, 2007 Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:56:02 +0100 On a sort-of-related note: I have an apple script (not written by me -- I have no skills in that arena) that is supposed to fire any time a message comes in with an attachment. The script writes to the attached file's Finder comments (are they still called Finder Comments?), making a note of who sent the file and the date. This is really useful because, although I also have had no problem with PM losing the links to attachments, I often want to track the other way and find out who sent a particular file in my attachment's folder, and when. Or, at least, it *would* be really useful if it were not for the fact that the script does not fire. PM appears to not activate applescripts if they are called automatically by a filter, as mine is (the condition is set to [Attachment 0k] which I know works as a trigger because I also use it in another filter to set the label colour for messages with attachments. That other filter works fine. This is not the first time I've flagged this problem (it's been plaguing me for several years now), but despite many versions of PM coming and going, it seems never to have been fixed. It must be seen as a bug, surely? Is it just me? Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode Shark Attack: A Design Studio www.sharkattack.co.uk -- Original message: Received from Alan Harper on 22/4/07 at 14:40 I can confirm that I also do NOT have this problem (perhaps you are the only one!) One thing I love about PowerMail is that it usually can track an attachment link even after I move the attachment to another folder and rename the file. (Though I usually have to quit and relaunch the program). I assume it uses aliases to track attachments. -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: Tim Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:12:59 +0100 On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 9:56 am +0100, Rick Lecoat wrote: Or, at least, it *would* be really useful if it were not for the fact that the script does not fire. PM appears to not activate applescripts if they are called automatically by a filter, as mine is (the condition is set to [Attachment 0k] which I know works as a trigger because I also use it in another filter to set the label colour for messages with attachments. That other filter works fine. I don't think the problem is that PM appears to not activate applescripts if they are called automatically by a filter; I have several filters that call an Applescript to trigger a Growl notification, and they work fine. Sorry I can't help further, but maybe that narrows it down a bit. -- TimH PowerMail 5.5.2 (build 4475) | OS X 10.4.9 | PowerBook FW/500 | 1GB RAM -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:41:47 +0100 Okay Tim, thanks. Maybe the script is just too old then. Like I said, I have no applescript skills at all, so I can't diagnose whether it might be the script that has fallen behind the PM library. Here, then, is the full code of it, complete with comments and notes: . . . . . . . . . . (* tag attachments v1.0 is tested against powermail 3.1.1 on os x 10.1.2 *) (* this will put identifying information into the comments of files *) (* it looks for the attachments in the attachment folder, if the attachment is not there *) (* the script will put up a dialog telling you the file has moved. *) (* use as a filter for incoming messages *) (* includes, sender display name and email, message subject, and date sent *) (* many thanks to tim lisauskas for helping debug this script *) property pmSender : property pmID : property pmSubject : property pmContent : property pmTimeSent : property pmDisplayName : property pmAddress : property pmAttach : set x to 0 tell application PowerMail try set pmAttach to attachment folder set theMessages to the current messages repeat with msg in theMessages set
powermail-discuss Digest #2617 - 04/24/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2617 - Tuesday, April 24, 2007 Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:06:55 +0100 Original message: Received from cheshirekat on 23/4/07 at 13:49 Is your filter at the end of your list of filters, or where is it located? To act on all attachments received, it would need to be at or near the top of your list of filters. Or, at least should not follow any scripts that move the attachments. The filter in question is pretty high in my filter list (no. 15-ish out of about 90+) and does not follow any filters that move attachments. Does the script run properly if you manually run that filter on your messages that have attachments? Yes, it does. Sorry, should have mentioned that in my original post. I guess that this rules out any incompatibility between the script and PM's applescript library/dictionary. Have you tried copying the entire contents of the script into a new script file and saving? (Don't delete the original too quickly, but the AppleScript Editor would probably tell you if there was a syntax error with the script you have been using, or trying to use.) I've not tried rebuilding the script in this way, but the fact that thefilter works when manually applied (see above) implies to me that it is unlikely to have any affect. But I might try it anyway when I have a spare few minutes. Thanks for the alternative script. /snip/ If you don't get a lot of attachments, you can manually run your script, or the above script on individual messages, or several messages at once, or even an entire folder of messages if the script works for you outside a filter. I know I'd never remember to do it, and I get enough attachments that it would become a problem. Also, the filter needs to be run on the message, not the attachment per se, and my mail is nearly all auto-filtered into hundred of different folders, making manual application of the filter or script time consuming. Good luck! Thanks! Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode -- -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:28:27 -0700 Hi, Of course it should not follow any filters that get triggered that include [x] Don't apply subsequent filters to this message I assume you've checked for that, but just in case. Sometimes it is the simple things. :-) Bruce -- Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com As Rick Lecoat wrote... Original message: Received from cheshirekat on 23/4/07 at 13:49 Is your filter at the end of your list of filters, or where is it located? To act on all attachments received, it would need to be at or near the top of your list of filters. Or, at least should not follow any scripts that move the attachments. The filter in question is pretty high in my filter list (no. 15-ish out of about 90+) and does not follow any filters that move attachments. -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:29:16 +0100 There are a few earlier-placed filters that have that box checked, but they are all for highly specific conditions (specific account PLUS specific subject line, etc) and would not be cause for the complete failure to trigger that I'm seeing with this Applescript. But I think I've nailed the problem. I have some filters that move attachments into certain folders, depending upon whether the sender is known or unknown to me, and also for certain clients. I assumed that if they came *after* the 'Tag Attachments' script in the filter list then they would not be a problem. It would appear that even if these filters are way down the filter list, far below the 'Tag Attachments' one in order of activation, they still prevent it from working. I had assumed that the Applescript would run before moving to the next filter, but this appears to be incorrect -- presumably because Applescript is a 3rd party thing and not part of PM itself. Not sure what the workaround it yet, but I'll try adding the 'Tag Attachments' script to any filters that move attachments into specific folders, and see if it helps. Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7
powermail-discuss Digest #2618 - 04/25/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2618 - Wednesday, April 25, 2007 Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] auto-move msg after reading by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: auto-move msg after reading by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: auto-move msg after reading by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: auto-move msg after reading by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML globe button behaviour by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Database corrupt by Urs Gruetzner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: HTML globe button behaviour by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: auto-move msg after reading by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:16:04 -0600 On Tue, Apr 24, 20079:45 AM, the following words from Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... Follow up: Looks like anything that moves the attachment prevents the script from working. If the attachment is moved *after* the script is called (but as part of the same filter pass, eg at incoming mail) then the script just fails silently -- presumably it starts to work but the attachment gets moved half way through the tagging process. If the attachment is moved *before* the tagging script is called (eg as part of a single filter where the Action is to move the attachment then tag it) then I get the report The attachment has been moved since download. It looks like this is part of the script though, not PM. Maybe the script needs updating to accommodate filter-moved attachments; I don't think that functionality was available to PM's filters when the script was written! That's beyond my abilities right now tho. Anyone want to have a go? (NB I've not tried Cheshirekat's script yet. Does that take account of filter-moved attachments?) Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode -- Original message: Received from Rick Lecoat on 24/4/07 at 09:29 Not sure what the workaround it yet, but I'll try adding the 'Tag Attachments' script to any filters that move attachments into specific folders, and see if it helps. If I were to receive a lot of attachments, as you apparently do, I'd move this AppleScript to the top of the list of filters. But you have to make sure you UNmark the box for Don't apply subsequent filters to this message. That way, all your attachments will have information in the comments, but other filters can still act upon the messages you receive and change the message labels or move the messages to specific folders. As it is, the AppleScript you have been using has a few error checks that you are not getting when it runs in the filters. I assume that PowerMail suppresses the AppleScript errors, but I don't know. At one time, I wrote some AppleScripts for use in filters, but didn't get any indication why it failed/worked so I gave up making scripts for my filters. That was several years ago when I'd first switched to PM from Emailer. Email did a great job of utilizing schedules and AppleScripts, so I had quite a few scripts that were enabled for incoming messages. For my setup, I only have three folders that receive messages with attachments that I want to keep, and not very often, so it's easy to run an AppleScript manually. Any other attachments are unrequested/unwanted and are moved to the trash by a filter that is placed near the bottom of my filters to catch spam attachments. Hope this is helpful. -- Music, like religion, unconditionally brings in its train all the moral virtues to the heart it enters, even though that heart is not in the least worthy. - Jean Baptiste Montegut * MAC PRO 2 GHz Quad Xeon * OS X 10.4.9 * 3 GB Ram * -- Subject: auto-move msg after reading From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:20:01 -0700 Hi All, Is there a way to auto-move a message into the Read Mail folder after reading it? As I am trying to sell a whole company on PowerMail, this question has come up several times. These folks used to use Claris Emailer, and moved the TBird, which I am trying to move them from, partly due to the way attachments are handled. The one person that is trying out PowerMail also wants to print html messages, including the
powermail-discuss Digest #2619 - 04/26/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2619 - Thursday, April 26, 2007 Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Database corrupt by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bug or feature ? by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Re(2): Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Tim Lapin (sympatico) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: the list vs the user base (wasRe: bug or feature ?) by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:54:00 +0200 Rick Lecoat said it something like this: Moving the script filter to the top of the filter list won't work, because any other filters in the list that are set to move attachments to specific folders -- even if they are WAAAY down the filter list -- will cause it to fail. I don't know whether this is because the script is still running when the attachment gets moved, or whether it's because the script is postponed until all non-script filters have done their work I would very much like to see some input here from CTM. What is actually going on when scripts run inside PowerMail? Meanwhile, are there any development tools that allow you to see the status of scripts running in PowerMails memory space? I usually use Script Debugger, but I need a better tool I think. What scripting tools do you other script developers use? I have time after time come up against limitations in PowerMail's implementation of Applescript that prevents at least myself from developing scripts addressing needs like: incremental message by message backup, changes of the settings of the search dialog and automatic de- htmlification of HTML based messages for example. That's sad, really. Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: Database corrupt From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:11:50 +0200 Urs Gruetzner sa såhär: Powermail crashed and then I had a kernel panic. After reboot PM announces a corrupted database. I restarted with modifier key to rebuild the database. PM begins the process but shortly PM crashes again and again. What else can I do to get back my database? Remove the addressbook and see if that helps. It may be corrupt and the mail DB not. There is also PowerMail Salvage as a last resort. No backups? Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: bug or feature ? From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:39:26 +0200 Michael Lewis said it like this: Again, I never said that. If you can go back through my messages and show specifically where I said the issue was not real instead of speaking to my own experience and how I worked around that, then feel free to do so. I don't think you can. I didn't specifically hint at your messages at that paragrapgh. Sorry if that was unclear. However, You did forget to acknowledge the valid nature of the problem. And I disagree that when someone mentions a problem or a bug that we should not mention workarounds they can use until CTM decides if it is an issue that has priority or not. Did anyone actually suggest this? Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB
powermail-discuss Digest #2621 - 04/28/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2621 - Saturday, April 28, 2007 Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:07:11 -0600 On Wed, Apr 25, 200711:07 AM, the following words from Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... Hi cheshirekat. Moving the script filter to the top of the filter list won't work, because any other filters in the list that are set to move attachments to specific folders -- even if they are WAAAY down the filter list -- will cause it to fail. I don't know whether this is because the script is still running when the attachment gets moved, or whether it's because the script is postponed until all non-script filters have done their work and PM loses track of the file's location, but it seems that the script will only work on attachments that are in (and are staying in) the default attachment folder. Currently I can either tag attachments, or move them to specific folders, but I want to do both. Thanks for your help though. Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode -- Original message: Received from cheshirekat on 24/4/07 at 22:16 If I were to receive a lot of attachments, as you apparently do, I'd move this AppleScript to the top of the list of filters. But you have to make sure you UNmark the box for Don't apply subsequent filters to this message. That way, all your attachments will have information in the comments, but other filters can still act upon the messages you receive and change the message labels or move the messages to specific folders. I don't know what else to suggest to you. I have been testing the script I sent for several days. I haven't had any problems and the few files I have received have the appropriate text in the comments. The other filters continue to work on messages that have attachments. I placed the filter at the very top of my filter lists - before all other filters with the below criteria. Condition - AppleScript/Mark Attachment Comments Filter incoming messages - checked Actions - no action Don't apply subsequent filters to this message - UNchecked I'm using PowerMail version 5.5.3 build 4480 English (intel) -- Music, like religion, unconditionally brings in its train all the moral virtues to the heart it enters, even though that heart is not in the least worthy. - Jean Baptiste Montegut * MAC PRO 2 GHz Quad Xeon * OS X 10.4.9 * 3 GB RAM * -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2623 - 05/01/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2623 - Tuesday, May 1, 2007 Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing by Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing From: cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:16:27 -0600 On Mon, Apr 30, 20074:26 PM, the following words from Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... It's a puzzler, no doubt about it. I've tried both my earlier script and the one you kindly supplied, putting each at the top of the filter list with the settings that you specified. I also tried each one with the following: Act on: Incoming mail Condition = attachment size 0k Action = execute Applescript [DO pass this message to subsequent filters]. Act on: Incoming mail Condition = Always Action = execute Applescript [DO pass this message to subsequent filters]. (Actually I had never noticed the Applescript option as a filter *condition* before. How does that work? I mean, how is 'Applescript' a true or false condition?) In each case, I got the same result: if I *deactivated* the filters further down the list that move the attachment into a folder other than the default attachment folder, then both the scripts would run fine. But if any filters further down the list *did* move the attachment then the scripts would fail (silently). CheshireKat, did any of your subsequent filters *move* the attachments that the script was acting upon? If they did and the script still runs okay then there may be something specific to my setup. I think that some clarification from CTM would be useful here, because it would appear that we (the users) are misunderstanding the way Applescript and PM interact in this instance. Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.7 :: PM 5.5.2 :: 3 pane mode -- Original message: Received from cheshirekat on 27/4/07 at 05:07 I don't know what else to suggest to you. I have been testing the script I sent for several days. I haven't had any problems and the few files I have received have the appropriate text in the comments. The other filters continue to work on messages that have attachments. I placed the filter at the very top of my filter lists - before all other filters with the below criteria. Condition - AppleScript/Mark Attachment Comments Filter incoming messages - checked Actions - no action Don't apply subsequent filters to this message - UNchecked I'm using PowerMail version 5.5.3 build 4480 English (intel) Well, are you really using PM version 5.5.2 instead of 5.5.3? (I don't know that would cause problems for scripts in filters, but you never know.) Is there a reason you haven't upgraded? Do your filters that move attachments, move the attachments to a different volume, drive or external drive? My scripts that act on attachments always move the attached files. If it's spam, it is moved to the trash. If it's attached from a mailing list, it goes in the trash, if it's from certain people who like to continually forward garbage, it goes in the trash. But the ones that get moved to another folder, same volume/drive instead of the trash aren't bothered by the script either. I haven't tried to move them to another volume/drive because I can see a potential for a problem with slower drives. I would not attempt it on my slow PowerBook with USB 1.1 and 4500 rpm nearly full drives, unless I wanted email retrievals to be nearly an all day event. Your G5 should process the scripts quickly so I wouldn't imagine there would be a bottleneck in timing conflicts with the filters. It isn't a very lengthy script after all. PowerMail is so fast retrieving email that it almost seems that it couldn't possibly be filtering the messages (I have many many filters!) but I'd have major troubles with my email if filters weren't working. At least on my new Mac Pro - the old PowerBook was a different story. But I did check each time that my attachment script worked and that attachments were moved by other filters. I even sent attachments to myself from other email accounts when testing. Both scripts, as far as I can tell, tested for the existence of attachments for each message, so there would be no need for a filter that calls the AppleScript to test for the existence of attachments as well. At least, that makes sense to me, but I don't know anything absolute when it comes to scripts in PM's filters. Actually, I only skimmed the other script because I knew I had one similar. How often do you check your email? Are you having to filter a ton of messages at once,
powermail-discuss Digest #2624 - 05/02/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2624 - Wednesday, May 2, 2007 Browser Layout by Nick Keck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Browser Layout Answer by Nick Keck [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Browser Layout From: Nick Keck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 15:27:45 -0700 Somehow, my wife managed to cause the browser layout to change so none of the selection options is available but is greyed out. I have restarted holding down the Option and Command keys and selected all options to no avail. I have quit and restarted PowerMail a couple of times and have discarded the pref files in both the PowerMail folder and the User Library prefs folder. What else shold I be doing please? -- Nick I started out with nothing still have most of it left. -- Subject: Browser Layout Answer From: Nick Keck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 15:31:23 -0700 Somehow, my wife managed to cause the browser layout to change so none of the selection options is available but is greyed out. I have restarted holding down the Option and Command keys and selected all options to no avail. I have quit and restarted PowerMail a couple of times and have discarded the pref files in both the PowerMail folder and the User Library prefs folder. What else shold I be doing please? Reset factory window options corrected the problem. Sorry to not have tried that before. -- Nick I started out with nothing still have most of it left. -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2625 - 05/04/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2625 - Friday, May 4, 2007 bcc not consistently working by Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bcc not consistently working by Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: bcc not consistently working by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: bcc not consistently working From: Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 16:41:15 -0400 I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9 and with 1 GB Ram. For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself with the members listed as BCCs. Gradually the list has grown and now I send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members. Twice in the last 2 days there has been a problem when I send messages (previously no problems at all, and so far, the problem has occurred only once each day while the day's other messages are sent OK). The problem is that although I send each message to myself with the members listed as BCCs, in the 2 problematic instances, ALL of the BCCs showed up in the headers, causing some of the receiving servers to reject the post but the other members received the messages with all names and email addresses revealed. PLEASE HELP! As you can imagine, this is a real problem for me. I would *greatly* appreciate suggestions about what is going wrong and how I might fix the problem. Thanks! Ken -- Subject: Re: bcc not consistently working From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:33:39 -0500 was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages? if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the overflow is causing a bug? quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000 names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000 and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group. hope this makes sense. just in case you are not somebody of many backups, hiccups like this mean orange alarm to at least now ensure you backup your address-book (and database would be a good idea too, and all your pref settings... you know, just in case). ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9 and with 1 GB Ram. For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself with the members listed as BCCs. Gradually the list has grown and now I send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members. Twice in the last 2 days there has been a problem when I send messages (previously no problems at all, and so far, the problem has occurred only once each day while the day's other messages are sent OK). The problem is that although I send each message to myself with the members listed as BCCs, in the 2 problematic instances, ALL of the BCCs showed up in the headers, causing some of the receiving servers to reject the post but the other members received the messages with all names and email addresses revealed. PLEASE HELP! As you can imagine, this is a real problem for me. I would *greatly* appreciate suggestions about what is going wrong and how I might fix the problem. Thanks! Ken -- Subject: Re: bcc not consistently working From: Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:00:30 -0500 was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages? if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the overflow is causing a bug? quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000 names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000 and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group. hope this makes sense. just in case you are not somebody of many backups, hiccups like this mean orange alarm to at least now ensure you backup your address-book (and database would be a good idea too, and all your pref settings... you know, just in case). ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9 and with 1 GB Ram. For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself with the members listed as BCCs. Gradually the list has grown and now I send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members. That's a lot of BCC's. A lot of the new SPAM filters will also trigger with this many BCC recipients. I would check with the server admin of your ISP or the person in charge of your network and make sure they don't enforce any limits on BCC recipients. Also if you're starting to get to this
powermail-discuss Digest #2626 - 05/06/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2626 - Sunday, May 6, 2007 Re(2): bcc not consistently working by Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): bcc not consistently working by Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re(2): bcc not consistently working From: Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:50:02 -0400 That's a lot of BCC's. A lot of the new SPAM filters will also trigger with this many BCC recipients. I would check with the server admin of your ISP or the person in charge of your network and make sure they don't enforce any limits on BCC recipients. Thanks for the suggestion. I double-checked with my ISP and because I have a business account, there is no limit on the # of bcc recipients I can send to. I have my own home network and I didn't set a limit. Thanks for prompting me to check these kinds of potential sources for the problem. Ken -- Subject: Re(2): bcc not consistently working From: Ken Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:44:07 -0400 was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages? If there was, I sure couldn't spot it. All messages are in ascii (no HTML) without attachments. These 2 didn't seem longer or to differ from the others in any way that I could see. if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the overflow is causing a bug? quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000 names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000 and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group. Thanks for the suggestion! Ken -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2627 - 05/07/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2627 - Monday, May 7, 2007 PowerMail and IMAP by Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by CTM info [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automatic signature in new mails by Christoph Pohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Automatic signature in new mails by marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Automatic signature in new mails by Karsten Liere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: PowerMail and IMAP From: Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 18:16:03 -0500 Hi, Just been trying the latest PowerMail version i.e., v5.5.3. I am evaluating it for use with an IMAP account. It connected to the IMAP server and retrieved the folder list just fine. I'm also able to browse messages. However, I am unable to do the following and wondering if these are indeed limitations or am I missing something: - IMAP folder counts for new messages do not show up. Folders containing new messages simply show up emboldened. - I cannot filter to IMAP folders since only local folders appear in the target folder list for the action to move messages. - It would seem that only the Inbox is checked for new messages. -- -=Curtis=- And the only thing the Borg left was this Macintosh... -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: CTM info [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:13:24 +0200 Curtis, Yes, there are indeed limitations. We position PowerMail as a full-blown POP3 e-mail client with high speed indexing, but with lightweight IMAP support i.e. for occasional use. The limitations you see are those of our design goals. Cheers, jean michel/ctm qa On Sun, 6 May 2007 18:16:03 -0500, Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just been trying the latest PowerMail version i.e., v5.5.3. I am evaluating it for use with an IMAP account. It connected to the IMAP server and retrieved the folder list just fine. I'm also able to browse messages. However, I am unable to do the following and wondering if these are indeed limitations or am I missing something: - IMAP folder counts for new messages do not show up. Folders containing new messages simply show up emboldened. - I cannot filter to IMAP folders since only local folders appear in the target folder list for the action to move messages. - It would seem that only the Inbox is checked for new messages. -- -=Curtis=- And the only thing the Borg left was this Macintosh... -- Subject: Automatic signature in new mails From: Christoph Pohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:53:22 +0200 Hello, a couple of days ago I purchased Powermail and I´m really satisfied so far. But I have a small problem: When creating a new business mail I´m using for 100% a signature like that --- Christoph Pohl I investplanet Managing Director Schalksbergweg 10 D-97080 Würzburg fon +49 931 710 5382 mob +49 177 200 8396 www.investplanet.de How can I tell Powermail to insert this signature into each new mail I´m creating? Till now I see just in the right corner below a pop-up-menu to select it manually. But this is a bit circumstantially all the time. Thanks for your help! -- Subject: Re: Automatic signature in new mails From: marco osti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:08:44 +0200 Christoph Pohl 07-05-07: How can I tell Powermail to insert this signature into each new mail I´m creating? setup: mail accounts: default text signature -- marco -- Subject: Re: Automatic signature in new mails From: Karsten Liere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:18:19 +0200 Hi, Select under Setup - Mail Accounts - Tab: Identity - Default text signature the desired signature from the pull down menu. Cheers, kl. Hello, a couple of days ago I purchased Powermail and I´m really satisfied so far. But I have a small problem: When creating a new business mail I´m using for 100% a signature like that --- Christoph Pohl I investplanet Managing Director Schalksbergweg 10 D-97080 Würzburg fon +49 931 710 5382 mob +49 177 200 8396 www.investplanet.de How can I tell Powermail to insert this signature into each new mail I´m creating? Till now I see just in the right corner below a pop-up-menu to select it manually. But this is a bit circumstantially all the time. Thanks for your help! -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP
powermail-discuss Digest #2628 - 05/08/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2628 - Tuesday, May 8, 2007 Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2627 - 05/07/07 by Joe Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Finke Finke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Bill Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2627 - 05/07/07 From: Joe Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:39:15 -0700 I recently switched from Emailer which had even less support for IMAP. But several years ago I started to use a small application called Mail Forward http://www.sspi-software.com/ which automatically forwards mail from several IMAP accounts to a central POP account where PowerMail takes over. This allows me to apply all filtering, saving and sorting actions to IMAP mail. The only downsides that I have found are that occasionally I will accidentally shut down MailForward and there always is a short delay in receiving mail Joe Hallett 5/7/07 I am evaluating it for use with an IMAP account. It connected to the IMAP server and retrieved the folder list just fine. I'm also able to browse messages. However, I am unable to do the following and wondering if these are indeed limitations or am I missing something: - IMAP folder counts for new messages do not show up. Folders containing new messages simply show up emboldened. - I cannot filter to IMAP folders since only local folders appear in the target folder list for the action to move messages. - It would seem that only the Inbox is checked for new messages. -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Finke Finke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:22:59 +0400 On May 7, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Curtis inscribed: Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:02:21 -0500 On Mon, 7 May 2007 09:34:21 -0400, Sean McBride wrote: with highspeed internet connections IMAP becomes more and more popular. So I think it would be nice, if these limitations within the IMAP- implementation of PM would be removed in the near future. I agree. IMAP is much beter than POP, and I'd like to switch, but for now PowerMail is holding me back. Webmail has made serious inroads into the popularity of IMAP. Webmail offers portability of email across machines, and with adequate functionality to please the majority of users interested in such portability. While webmail has come a long, long way - I would argue that the majority of users that is pleases aren't the same ones who use PowerMail. From a business perspective - they often still see using multiple machines to access email [via any protocol] as a bit insecure. I am afraid that having amazing POP3 support at the expense of mediocre IMAP support will cause more harm than good. In the long run it is something that will likely be seen as a black mark against an otherwise great application. I've used PowerMail for years, but like Wayne B. I've given the nod to Mail for now for it's IMAP support. The trade off is I'm more inclined to pare down the total size of messages to try and keep it lean. In PM it was nice [in fact exceedingly beneficial] to be able to reference 2-3 year old emails conversations about an ongoing project without losing speed or functionality. Using Mail I try to extract the relevant bits to other documents and rely on searching for them [DEVONThink]. Fin Kename -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Bill Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 07:42:15 -0400 Yes, like Fin and Wayne, I've finally switched over to Thunderbird, for the two reasons that are regularly raised on this list... support for IMAP, and support for html. I would have liked to stay with PowerMail but I must admit, everything seems to move a lot more smoothly in Thunderbird. Although I don't like the search engine as much. Too bad... BILL. Finke Finke wrote: On May 7, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Curtis inscribed: Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:02:21 -0500 On Mon, 7 May 2007 09:34:21 -0400, Sean McBride wrote: with highspeed internet connections IMAP becomes more and more popular. So I think it would be nice, if these limitations within the IMAP- implementation of PM would be removed in the near future. I agree. IMAP is much beter than POP, and I'd like to switch, but for now PowerMail is holding me back. Webmail has made serious inroads into the popularity of IMAP. Webmail offers portability of email across machines, and with adequate functionality to please the majority of users interested in such portability. While webmail has come a long, long way - I would argue that the majority of users that is pleases aren't the same ones who use PowerMail. From a business perspective -
powermail-discuss Digest #2629 - 05/09/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2629 - Wednesday, May 9, 2007 Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Lane Roathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Barbara Needham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Charles Watts-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Lane Roathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 23:33:48 -0500 Hi, I've never figured out the attraction of IMAP, maybe just because I'm focused on speed so much. Using both in several programs and via webmail I continue to prefer POP3 from both a user and server perspective. (Although anymore I have to run IMAP for webmail). If PM ever goes to the dark side and becomes HTML compliant, I'll switch to another program - if I want to send 4MB word docs I'll do so knowingly, not accidently via my email program. I also like the fact that I can simply flag all HTML email as spam and narrow down my emails to (nearly) only those I want (that's after filtering over 90% of the spam at the server, leaving only a few hundred a day arriving for PM to filter). Anyway, I for one am very happy that POP3 and text are the primary focus of PM. That said, I'm not against improving IMAP or HTML as long as it doesn't interfere with the primary reasons for using PM in the first place: 1. Fast search 2. Focus on proper text emails 3. Great POP3 support 4. Usability (ui, etc.) 5. Reliability (why isn't this higher ... maybe it would be if it became an issue) Anyway, just to be the ship sailing against the wind :) Lane Roathe President Ideas From the Deephttp://www.ifd.com ___ Life is cheap, but the accessories will break you. -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:22:50 -0400 Lane Roathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-05-08 00:33 said: I've never figured out the attraction of IMAP, maybe just because I'm focused on speed so much. Using both in several programs and via webmail I continue to prefer POP3 from both a user and server perspective. (Although anymore I have to run IMAP for webmail). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imap#Advantages_over_POP3 For most, the biggest thing is being able to keep your mail at work, home, and laptop all in sync. If PM ever goes to the dark side and becomes HTML compliant, I'll switch to another program - if I want to send 4MB word docs I'll do so knowingly, not accidently via my email program. I also like the fact that I can simply flag all HTML email as spam and narrow down my emails to (nearly) only those I want (that's after filtering over 90% of the spam at the server, leaving only a few hundred a day arriving for PM to filter). For me anyway, I also don't want to compose html mail, but I would like to be able to read it properly. Often times I get html mails where the message in empty and there is a .html attachment. That's pretty lame. Sean -- Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. - Mark Twain -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:58:34 +0200 Lane Roathe suggested: If PM ever goes to the dark side and becomes HTML compliant, I'll switch to another program - As nothing most likely would stop you, under the described scenario, from sending plain text messages and keep labeling incoming HTML- messages as spam, that is a quite a childish attitude to flaunt. Why shoudl we other users care about this? I don't care if you switch or not, for whatever reason. Go join another cult! It's like if I said if PM ever switches to an _optional_ OS X metal interface, I'd switch. Like I couldn't keep using the old look (rolling up my eyes). Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:58:34 +0200 Curtis suggested: Webmail has made serious inroads into the popularity of IMAP. Webmail offers portability of email across machines, and with adequate functionality to please the majority of users interested in such portability. According to what reputable authority? Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject:
powermail-discuss Digest #2630 - 05/10/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2630 - Thursday, May 10, 2007 Re: Not Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Not Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Lane Roathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail and IMAP by Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail 2GB Limit by Jeremy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail 2GB Limit by Tim Lapin (sympatico) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: PowerMail 2GB Limit by Steve Abrahamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Not Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 20:46:41 +0200 Michael Lewis exploded: Geez, louise, you're rude. Can you tone it down a bit, please? It's really getting tiresome when you jump all over a person's case for stating a personal preference as if it is some personal attack on you or something. I didn't see anything in Lane's post that said you need to do this or everyone needs to do that -- he wrote I throughout it. So what? The next time you want to comment on someone's personal preferences or blast them for offering up a way they work around a particular issue or bug while we wait for CTM to change or fix it --- don't. I didn't comment on a personal preference, but on the attitude shared by a few individuals on this list that _their_ preferences should be the norm. I really feel, on the contrary, that many users differing preferences could and can coexist in PowerMail. If you feel different, that's your prerogative. But I also have the right to differ in opinion. Hit the close window and Don't Save buttons. Then, instead, if it is still important, write it from your point of view. I could care less if you think we're all idiots and treat us as such by figuratively rolling up your eyes, calling us childish, and telling us to join other cults. I called the attitude childish, not the person. There's a significant difference. And there's no need to make yourself a spokeperson for everyone else. Us? I do not think people on this list are idiots. I think all of us must have some greatness about themselves as we have choosen the same great email app. But the attitude that PowerMail shouldn't be usable for mere mortals or we're getting another client, is what is _really_ tiresome. My point is that email is changing. As long as the no-HTML-please-we're-british crowd is catered for, then I don't see the danger of supporting the needs of other groups as well. Though I don't see HTML-composing in the future of PowerMail any tie soon. And, yes I can tone it down nevertheless. There's no need for making people angry for the sake of it. My apologies. Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 20:51:10 +0200 Barbara Needham told: I manage to do this with pop mail, by not deleting from server. However, this works only for INCOMING. For outgoing, it does not. There IMAP does have the advantage if you keep a SENT mail folder on the server. On the other hand, I turn on IMAP in PowerMail when I need it [for .mac mail]; in the meantime I download it all as pop. Thunderbird emptied all my folders on the server once.. that scared me off of using it for a while. I'd be satisfied with the IMAP support of now if there was some automated way of moving messages to a local folder. Any suggestions? Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Re: Not Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:10:07 -0400 Mikael Byström sez: And, yes I can tone it down nevertheless. There's no need for making people angry for the sake of it. My apologies. See how easy that was, and how unnecessary the rest was? Thanks! -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com -- Subject: Re: PowerMail and IMAP From: Lane Roathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:36:04 -0500 on Wed, May 9, 2007 Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] may have said: It's like if I said if PM ever switches to an _optional_ OS X metal interface, I'd switch. Like I couldn't keep using the old look (rolling up my eyes). I thought I'd addressed that by saying I'm not against improving IMAP or HTML as long as it doesn't interfere with the primary reasons for using PM in the first place. Anyway, I agree that if the switch is optional and doesn't
powermail-discuss Digest #2632 - 05/12/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2632 - Saturday, May 12, 2007 Re: Printing Problems by Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Printing Problems From: Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:29:53 -0700 The last (way back when) printing problem I had with PM was when it would not print at all. Would go through the motions, but nothing came out of the printer. Every other application printed fine. If I recall, the solution was to either (or both) restart the computer or run Disk Warrior. --Ira Subject: Only prints 1 page (of many) From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:48:54 -0700 Ok, so I know there is a problem printing HTML mail, but this is a plain text mail, and PM refuses to print more than the 1st page of it. PM does print the message header (good) but absolutely will not print nor preview pages 2- 4. All I can do is to copy/paste the text into another program to print. A quick check of other emails shows that I can only print page 1 of all the emails I checked. I have page set up set to 80% (also tried 100%), letter size paper, and any printer. Also tried selecting my laser printer in the PAge Set up, but it doesn't matter, PowerMail will only print page 1 of any email I try to print. Does anyone else have this problem? What can be done? PowerMail version: PowerMail version 5.5.3 build 4480 English (intel) Mac OS version: 10.4.8 DaveN -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2634 - 05/18/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2634 - Friday, May 18, 2007 More problem with printing by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Printing Problems by Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove PowerMail icon in message list on Intel Mac? by David M. Marra [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: More problem with printing From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:08:10 -0700 If Powermail will not present us with a print dialog box prior to printing that causes additional problems: 1) It may print to the wrong printer (no option to choose) 2) It prints all pages, rather than just the desired pages. 3) Not possible to print to PDF. This in addition to not being able to print the message headers. DaveN -- Subject: Re: Printing Problems From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:08:30 +0200 Derry Thompson sa såhär: Does Powermail work with return receipts? If so, how can I turn them off? PM doesn't send return receipts automatically. You have to set up an applescript, which in your case unless I misunderstand you, means you don't have to do anything. Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD -- Subject: Remove PowerMail icon in message list on Intel Mac? From: David M. Marra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:17:52 -0400 Is there a way, on an Intel Mac, to remove the PowerMail icon to the left of emails in a message list? In the past, on PowerPC Macs, I enabled the disable message icon option in the PMpr resource of the User Prefs file as outlined here: http://home.hpo.net/timm/PowerMailFAQ.html#3.6 I recently migrated from an iBook to a MacBook, but this trick does not seem to work on the newer Intel system and the icon shows. If I move my PowerMail folder back to the older iBook, the icon does not show. Any suggestions? Thanks! -Dave -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
powermail-discuss Digest #2635 - 05/19/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2635 - Saturday, May 19, 2007 Re: More problem with printing by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem on quit by Jeffrey L. Fishbein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Problem with Printing by Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Problem with Printing by Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re(2): Problem with Printing by Winston Weinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Embedding a logo by bill houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Embedding a logo by Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Embedding a logo by Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Remove PowerMail icon in message list on Intel Mac? by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Problem on quit by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: More problem with printing From: Wayne Brissette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:33:51 -0400 (EDT) If Powermail will not present us with a print dialog box prior to printing that causes additional problems: I forget why that was the chosen option when using the print icon. However if you use the keyboard shortcut of cmd-P, or FilePrint you have all of these options. You can also use the pull-down menu from the printer icon and any of those options present a print dialog as well. Wayne -- Subject: Problem on quit From: Jeffrey L. Fishbein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:57:25 -0400 Hello, I have developed a recent problem when I quit Powermail. I get an error message that says STL exception occurred. I joined the list when it first happened and have also checked the archives; the only thing similar regards triggers other than quitting. When it happens, you can click OK and it closes, and there appears to be no issue beyond that. I have tried the hold button on start thing to no avail, and keep my in and out boxes clean regularly. I am running PM 5.5.3 build 4480 on a G4 mini running 10.4.9. -- Jeff F. -- Subject: Re: Problem with Printing From: Ira Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:07:05 -0700 Subject: More problem with printing From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:08:10 -0700 If Powermail will not present us with a print dialog box prior to printing that causes additional problems: 1) It may print to the wrong printer (no option to choose) 2) It prints all pages, rather than just the desired pages. 3) Not possible to print to PDF. This in addition to not being able to print the message headers. DaveN If I understand your issues, PM provides a print dialog if you click and HOLD the printer icon (or go to FilePrint) and choose Print Many people like the convenience of immediate printing of the frontmost e-mail, but I suppose a preference setting to allow which type of printing takes place would please everyone. --Ira -- Subject: Re: Problem with Printing From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:35:20 -0700 I usually use (command p) to print. In some cases, notably the html messages (as viewed in html mode) I am never presented with a print dialog box, even if I command p to print. So it prints without a dialog box. I feel that is a violation of the UI, unexpected behavior, a bug, and causes problems. After all there is a dot dot dot after the word Print in the print... menu. That ... means that there will be another dialog box. The Print One is also ok, but should not act the same exact way as the Print... menu item. Perhaps this problem is only happening on intel Macs? My system: PowerMail 5.5.3 build 4480 OSX 10.4.8 10.4.9, Intel iMac. To replicate problem: --- View any message with a html globe at the bottom left. (If necessary; double-click the message so it appears in it's own window). Click the little globe to view the message in html mode. Pull the file menu to Print... or press command p. Note; no print dialog box, but after a short delay the entire email is printed to the most recently used printer. Is it like that for you? It's also printing way too big (large font) because I like to view them onscreen larger. There should be separate controls for printing viewing sizes. But that is a separate issue. DaveN in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Ira Lansing's message of 3:07 PM, 5/18/07 Subject: More problem with printing From: Dave N [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:08:10 -0700 If Powermail will not present us with a print dialog box prior to printing that causes additional problems: 1) It may print to the wrong printer (no option to choose) 2) It prints all pages, rather than just the desired pages. 3) Not possible to print to PDF. This in addition to not being
powermail-discuss Digest #2636 - 05/21/07
powermail-discuss Digest #2636 - Monday, May 21, 2007 Embedded gif/png files by Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data bug in forward messages by Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Embedded gif/png files by PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Problem on quit by Jeffrey L. Fishbein [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Embedded gif/png files From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:01:59 +0100 Hi all: Is it possible to set up a filter to auto delete embedded/attached .gif/ png files? I seem to be getting a sudden influx of spam, which my current setup is not trapping. cheers, Chris -- Subject: Data bug in forward messages From: Rene Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:02:40 +0200 The header, integrated in the text body, of messages which are ready for forwarding has a little bug: The sending and receiving datas shows allways the same day and the same time - which cannot be. -- Subject: Re: Embedded gif/png files From: PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:58:32 +0200 Is it possible to set up a filter to auto delete embedded/attached .gif/ png files? Conditions: [attachment name] [ends with] [.gif] [attachment name] [ends with] [.png] Execute actions if [any condition is met] Actions: [Move attachments to trash] Note that if a message contains multiple attachments, some matching the criteria, and some not, only the attachments matching the criteria will be moved to the trash. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot is amazingly fast, and the built-in highlighting is a fantastic idea. Constantin von Wentzel, Arlington MA Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Subject: Re: Problem on quit From: Jeffrey L. Fishbein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:10:47 -0400 I have developed a recent problem when I quit Powermail. I get an error message that says STL exception occurred. In the general preference pane, do you have some actions checked when quitting PM? If so, does doing these action manually also triggers the problem? Yes, and it appears, yes. I have the program set to empty the trash on quit. I tried to do that manually at your suggestion, and also got the STL error. Have you tried to compact your database? Or to low level rebuild it? Both, individually as well as doing the whole group of five repair options by launching when holding option+command. And it can only be done that way it seems; I tried to do the compact from within the program and got a memory error (not the STL error). -- Thanks, Jeff Fishbein -- End of powermail-discuss Digest
