it may have to do with having auto junction turned off
if so then i guess yes it is a serious bug
i have never seen this, but i have never turned auto junction off either
Dennis Saputelli
John Branthoover wrote:
Hello All,
I have a schematic of a board that I just had fabricated.
John,
could the difference come in with which point you started drawing your wire?
Starting at the resistor pin or starting from the other connection first? Just a
thought. One would have to see exactly how you wired to or past that pin to understand
exactly how you are getting the
In a message dated 8/13/2003 4:33:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Just some ideas, I would not lose faith in Protel over this one
instance
I wholeheartedly agree. I always keep autojunction turned on, and I've
learned (the hard way at times) that if autojunction does
Hello All,
I have a schematic of a board that I just had fabricated. When I drew the
schematic, I did so with the Auto-Junction feature turned off. I always
draw schematics like this because of problems that I have had in the past
with the Auto-Junction feature placing junctions
It seems Mr. Watts has invented an e-mail oscillator ;-)
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] Rule confusion
On 01:02 PM 5/08/2003, Sanders, Dave said:
I need a little help.
I am using DXP SP2 on a very simple pcb, but I can't set up the
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The trick to avoid auto-junctions where you don't want them is to make sure
that endpoints of wires (and pins) don't intersect with any point on another
wire. This means you have to be careful about how you place wires. Once
you learn this behavior, it's not a problem.
The problem with turning
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Hi Waldemar,
You seem to have got a really strange problem.
Just one idea. This trick usually helps if the Pcb have become corrupt. If
I read your first mail correctly you do have a schematic. If so I would try
to select all in the Pcb and copy it to new Pcb. This will usually flush
any
Hi,
Check that you have the Connections layer enabled under DesignOptions
and the layer setup.
An other thing to test is DesignNetlist manager and chose Optimize all
nets from the menu. This forces a redraw of all connections.
Hope that helps.
Best Regards
Mattias
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Is the PCB routed or unrouted?
Ian,
we got it routed, but for a redesign we unrouted some nets and,
after the problem apeares, we unrouted all nets for test.
So yes, all nets are unrouted.
But while you ask. The
On 02:15 PM 5/08/2003, Sanders, Dave said:
I don't understand! There's no mention of InPoly in the PCB Rules and
Constraints Editor.
Can you point me at the relevant KB article. All my searches turn up nothing.
http://www.protel.com.au/resources/kb/default.asp#results
and then search for
the two lead kind?
they're pretty easy
i imagine it would take about as long to verify one as to make one
and of course if you found some you would *have* to verify them :)
ds
Brian Guralnick wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for generic footprints for an assortment of High Power,
Large can -
pdfwriter and distiller work differently regarding paths, at least for
me using acrobat 4.0
PDFwriter will go to a specified path
distiller is broken and will only go reliably to the sub folder PDF
OUTPUT under adobe program
distiller produces noticeably better output though so we put up with
Hello All,
I have cracked into how to make component height rules, here is how I did it
for99SE sp6
I have created virtual components. The virtual component outlines consist
of lines drawn on any Mech layer. The first component is as large as my work
area. For the first component it is as
It could also be possible that you actually had two wires going to the
same connection location, in which one was right on top of the other for
part of the distance.
JaMi
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Schematic printout in Acrobat save as Protel Schematic.pdf . Se in the same
directory you may find that file and then you may rename this.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:57 AM
Subject:
The moderator of this e-mail news/discussion group needs to filter out Auto
replies from getting re-broadcast to all of us... this guys piers is in some
sort of loop repeating over and over with each e-mail his auto reply sends
it auto replies to itself...
Bill Brooks
The person who says it
At 03:13 PM 8/5/2003, Dennis Saputelli wrote:
distiller produces noticeably better output though so we put up with
that
for proof of the better output see:
http://www.integratedcontrolsinc.com/SNAKEO/
(note: case sensitive path)
look at the line spacing and the 'circle' in the middle
if your
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Can any one address autoplace settings and/or required rules for a successful
autoplacement of a dense population of components on a small footprint. I am having
issues with components stacking on each other and/or placing outside boundaries. Any
help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
1) You may have a boot sector virus, or perhaps some other wacky software
has installed data or code in your master boot record (on the C: drive).
Correct, but if you don't have fdisk, the other way to fix the MBR:
Install Win right from the CD, when your are given the chance to select a
drive
Hello fellow designers,
I just ran (again) into asomething weird concerning the online DRC of
P98SE/SP6.
It may
I have a general rule stating that the minimum distance between a hole (via
or pad) and an SMD-pad must be 8 mils, regardless of net. Handy rule,
prevents solder loss during reflow.
Brian,
Sorry for the late response, but here goes.
The problem with calling out 4 oz. Cu, or even 2 oz. for that matter, is
that the board house will probably pattern plate the Cu, and it may not be
uniform. There is additionally the problem of etching small traces in the
same layer, due to the
Mouse software?
Choong
JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to beat a dead horse, but what are you using for mouse software?
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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:49 AM
Subject: Re:
Only unrouted nets are shown. A net that is routed is does not have its
ratsnest shown
Is the PCB routed or unrouted?
Ian
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All were use and tested on Win98 and WinXP.Btw i found out some problem with Protel
99SE Autorouter too this few days for the result is that it isnt working to way it
should be.Imagine when i purposely use it to route a double sided high density small
PCB and when i change its rules to route
On 07:13 PM 5/08/2003, Kulajew Waldemar said:
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Is the PCB routed or unrouted?
Ian,
we got it routed, but for a redesign we unrouted some nets and,
after the problem apeares, we unrouted all nets for test.
So yes, all
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From 11.8.2003 to 28.8.2003 i'm on holidays.
I will be back on Friday the 29.8.2003.
Andreas Lipowsky
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DIN EN ISO 9001:2000
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-Original Message-
From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:16 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Discovery - LAN Network pasue hiccup patch.
As far as I am aware the 'free' version of ZA is only licenced for
'home'
or
'non'
I think I might know what's going on. Can you try something for me?
Make your .swp file 3080mb and see what happens.
_
Brian Guralnick
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Sent: Saturday,
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No, i dont think that its the mouse as my experience with 99SE is from Win98SE fresh
installation and other existing pcs and also with original licensed WinXP,none of them
use tablets but only normal mouse of differing brands,so i am still waiting for some
miracle answer to this mystery.
Choong
Brad Velander wrote:
John,
could the difference come in with which point you started drawing your wire? Starting at the resistor pin or starting from the other connection first? Just a thought. One would have to see exactly how you wired to or past that pin to understand exactly how you are
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Leo,
to the best of my knowledge or recollection P99SE does not support negative
clearances in rules. As well, a zero clearance will allow for everything up to but not
including touching. So in P99SE there is no manner by which you can do a rule that
allows overlap or touching without
Choong:
My suggestions:
1) You may have a boot sector virus, or perhaps some other wacky software
has installed data or code in your master boot record (on the C: drive).
Some programs use copy protection schemes that do this - recent versions of
Intuit's TurboTax programs do this, and it's
At 05:09 AM 8/14/2003, Edi Im Hof wrote:
It's also a good idea to set the ERC a bit tighter. [...]
On intentionally left open pins, I place a no erc mark on it. Keystrokes
p-i-n, witch is easy to remember because you'll place them on a pin.
I have found quite a lot of schematic errors this way.
I am creating a pcb foot-print for an MLP-11 package.
The '11'th pin is defined as a large area under the package with
4 contact pads on the edge.
What is the procedure for creating the irregular shaped area as a pin??
Thanks
Ralph Garvin
Design Engineer
Rycom
At 05:34 PM 8/14/2003, Ralph Garvin wrote:
I am creating a pcb foot-print for an MLP-11 package.
The '11'th pin is defined as a large area under the package with
4 contact pads on the edge.
What is the procedure for creating the irregular shaped area as a pin??
Protel doesn't directly support
At 11:44 13.08.2003 -0700, you wrote:
John,
could the difference come in with which point you started drawing
your wire? Starting at the resistor pin or starting from the other
connection first? Just a thought. One would have to see exactly how you
wired to or past that pin to
I have been designing some bus-based cards (with a processor card, and other
peripheral cards), and have the problem that on many of the other cards, the
address signals (in particular) have no outputs (they come from the
processor card).
This causes lots of Unconnected Input Pin type errors (I
I have read all the replies on this topic and though I do follow the same
practice as Edi Im Hof, and, like, many others, I leave auto-junction on, I
have some sympathy to John Branthoover.
The interactions between autojunction and abutted co-linear lines has
always been a problem in P99SE -
John
I have never seen the behaviour you describe with autojunction.
I always have it turned on, never a problem.
Only issues I can remember seeing in the list was a large thread on the
issue of 4 point connections (bad practice anyway).
This was not directly related to having a 4 point
On 07:02 AM 15/08/2003, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said:
It's too bad that Protel 99SE does not have editable pin types at the
schematic level: Tango DOS allowed this (In Protel, pin types are only
editable in the Library editor.) What I'd have liked to see would have
been a symbol attribute that
John Branthoover wrote:
Hello All,
I have a schematic of a board that I just had fabricated. When I drew the
schematic, I did so with the Auto-Junction feature turned off. I always
draw schematics like this because of problems that I have had in the past
with the Auto-Junction
The problem with calling out 4 oz. Cu, or even 2 oz. for that matter, is
that the board house will probably pattern plate the Cu, and it may not
be
uniform. There is additionally the problem of etching small traces in the
same layer, due to the thickness.
My PCB house says that their
This is very good practice. I do exactly the same thing.
You can set up your printing not to print the ERC directive markers.
It provides a very robust check for unintentionally unconnected pins.
I also keep the autojunction turned on, but that does mean that I have
to be careful not to run wires
Don't you show the connectors leading to the bus? Wouldn't they be the source of the
address on your peripheral cards and therefore you shouldn't have any Unconnected
Input Pins?
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:49:02 +1000, Damon Kelly wrote:
I have been designing some bus-based cards (with a
do you mean single layer of routed copper ?
('single sided board')
or do you mean parts only on one side and 2 or more layers of copper?
if you mean the first then the autorouter will probably not work for you
as far as crashing that is really a shame
using P6 w/ windows 2000 i find it to be
You also need to add primitives to the solder mask layer, if the pad is to
be free of solder mask.
And you also need to add primitives to the paste mask if you are using a
stencil. Pay attention to the hole size in the stencil too. If it is
getting large you may have to make paste sections
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From: Duane Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:55 PM
To: DXP Technical Forum
Subject: Re: [dxp] DXP License Nonsense
I've been called twice with same nonsense
Duane, Harry
Its not nonsense, its for real.
I was made the same
One other possibility is to make the board double sided, with 3 Oz foil
on each side. This will be easier for them to etch/plate, and
paralleling the
high current traces on two layers gives the same resistance. I guess this
won't work if this is a thermal board to be bonded to a heat sink.
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At 11:55 PM 8/7/03 +0100, you wrote:
Duane, Harry
Its not nonsense, its for real.
I was made the same offer from the UK VAR but was informed that the
maintenance cover WAS optional, it covered major releases and 'priority'
telephone support. SP, add-ons would always be free for current major
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As far as I am aware the 'free' version of ZA is only licenced for 'home'
or
'non' commercial use.
At my last SW audit I had to remove it from several machines at work and
replace it with ZA pro [paid] licenses.
The choice is yours but i would read the SLA.
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Note: I am using only PDF Writer.
For getting the PDF files to go to the folder you want: change the path to the folder
even if the correct path looks chosen.
I think I have seen the files go to the last folder used instead of what is showing.
Acrobat works much better with Protel than
AutoCAD.
Hi All,
I am having trouble in creating PDF Schematics for the protel 99SE
Schematics. When I select Acobat Distiller printer in the 'Print Document'
Dialogue, and click on the 'Properties' button to see the path 'where' to
save files, I see the path as
i've seen some people mask out the solder mask from these traces and let
the wave solder build them up
not very controlled though
personally i have never asked for 4oz or 6oz starting weight or seen
much reference to those
2oz is pretty common though
bus bars are pain , but they could work
if it
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