Re: [QUAD-L] Environmental Control Units (mattress)

2007-01-21 Thread delimited4
The ultimate test, get your aid to sit test it before you get into it. Their butts feel when it is deflated. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Environmental Control

Re: [QUAD-L] Environmental Control Units

2007-01-15 Thread delimited4
Mines a TEMPEST. I don't think a lot of it. I've gotten great deals from ebay too. I hope you have great luck with yours. I'm told that waiver will replace my mattress, but they will only get a piece of junk generic hospital bed mattress. I have to have two stage 4 decubitus ulcers to get a

Re: [QUAD-L] UPS and standby generators

2007-01-15 Thread delimited4
There are some other options you might be interested in. First, if a hurricane is coming, leave! Second, only stay if you have a cat-5 house. You can have an electrical bank made from 12 volt deep cycle batteries that recharge from the normal power system and use a small generator to recharge

Re: [QUAD-L] Supra-pubic question

2007-01-13 Thread delimited4
I'm glad to hear you have solved that problem. It must suck to have a sack of rocks where your suppose to have a water bag. It should be a headsup to the rest of us to get our bladders checked every year to 18 months. We loose calcium at a remarkable rate compared to any other people beside

Re: [QUAD-L] Environmental Control Units

2007-01-13 Thread delimited4
Yes Dan, my air mattress is alternating preasure and low air loss. Its not very good at the air loss part but it will not completely deflate for a couple hours. It is one of those ebay specials a sister got me for $500. It draws about 250 watts (Maybe a little less.) and runs pretty good on a

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Quad Longevity

2007-01-07 Thread delimited4
I am amazed quadmedic. I see my doctor for a flu shot every year and let him ask some q's. tell him about any problems. I usually e mail him about day to day stupid stuff, perscriptions etc. He had me do a series of x rays last fall and see how all the bones that broke were doing after 30

Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [QUAD-L] Bad News

2007-01-05 Thread delimited4
No, I'm very sorry for your friends dad, but a severed spinal cord is permanent. There is still no treatment available like stem cells or anything. Just get use to a new life with new rules. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] I Regret The Passing Of........

2006-12-30 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I know Houston will be missed. He had a lot of years as a quad. I hope it was peaceful. I hope someone was there. I know I dread the idea of being alone at that moment. My doctors as well as my own experience lets me know that traumatic quads rarely live as long as he did. He never seemed to

Re: [QUAD-L] PWC scheme busted

2006-12-27 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Is there any irony in the fact that this guy was a psychiatrist. I actually think most doctors are solicited with so many bribes that anything they do can be construed as taking a bribe. I always have to have a doctor and a physical therapist along with a social worker sign off on my

Re: [QUAD-L] New Years Resolutions

2006-12-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I tried that one the last few years, always seem to give it up for lent. john In a message dated 12/20/06 16:15:30 Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dillon, I am taking the, Be Nicer to Others in Your Life, idea as a concept that I'm making into my New Year's Resolution

Re: [QUAD-L] New Years Resolutions

2006-12-19 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I'll try to be considerate and say nice things, but last time I smiled at a kid she broke out in tears. lol john In a message dated 12/19/06 18:27:58 Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being nice and considerate to one another doesn't cost a dime and yet is more valuable than

Re: [QUAD-L] Got one

2006-12-13 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
So venison hot dogs can turn you into an ultra right wing conservative that wants to destroy America though propaganda and the gradual deterioration of rights guaranteed by the constitution? Or are you saying The people at Fox News eat venison hot dogs? lol j/k john In a message dated

Re: [QUAD-L] Agency Help Over the Holidays

2006-12-03 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
A tip on how to make it over 24 hours without help. You can attach a second drainage bag to the main bed bag doubling the amount of urine it can hold. Simply attach the second bags intake line to the drain line from the first bag and unlock the first bag. It should drain easily into the second

Re: [QUAD-L] Agency Help Over the Holidays

2006-12-02 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I can't count the number of Christmas days I've spent in bed becauswe aids ditched and agencies couldn't get anyone here I really don't like Christmas much. It's like a bad few weeks when I'm supposed to understand that the rest of the world is having fun and would I please not pester them. I

Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: Fw: panel calls for big changes in medicaid

2006-11-29 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
We never have any trouble building aircraft carriers that the navy doesn't want. We have tons of money for foreign aid. Congress has never not voted itself a pay raise. We are involved in military actions that are best described as questionable and extremely expensive. We waste money building

Re: [QUAD-L] need info about syringomyelia

2006-11-27 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Dear Bobbie, My only advise is to try to take the least you can to get along. I know we are all addicted to something for spasms. Pain pills are an addiction you can fight with the rest of your life. The side effects are nightmares in themselves. I know the pain your dealing with and

Re: [QUAD-L] A.D. - help

2006-11-16 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I always seem to get AD in episodes. I'll go a few months with nothing but a few moderately high blood presure events, then suddenly, i start getting the real high blood presure and the seizures and stuff, but docs say take atenelol, and check bowels, bladder and sources of pain. The folks in

[QUAD-L] Bladder training neurolic bladder functioning

2006-11-10 Thread delimited4
Without becoming a total bore on this subject, I'm wondering if doctors even try to encourage blader training and the use of condom catheters anymore. It can be a rather long process, but when done right, it can eliminate a lot of those nasty infections. Even if your not using an external cath,

Re: [QUAD-L] durable medical equipment

2006-11-02 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
In Ohio, you can get new wheelchair batteries once a year. A new power wheelchair once every 7 years, a new hospital bed mattress every 4 years and a new hospital bed every ten years. Sounds like Stalin's five year plans doesn't it. These were made up by lawyers for handicapped people who just

Re: [QUAD-L] Tax deduction

2006-10-24 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I've never heard of it and I've done taxes for quite awhile. I'll admitt I've never had a relative as a primary caregiver, but I haven't seen anything that fit that description. You can deduct your expences as long as they equal 7% of your gross income. john In a message dated 10/24/2006

Re: [QUAD-L] LYRICA

2006-10-24 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Economics! Some quads have enormous settlements and are not particularly concerned with living problems that confront quads that rely on medicaid. I would like to see an assistive living center for quads. I've seen attempts to build them but the ACLU claimed it discriminated against people that

Re: [QUAD-L] Hot Dog!

2006-10-24 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Congrats! I hope your dog is as wonderful as those I've seen at work. john In a message dated 10/24/2006 3:10:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/24/2006 1:03:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We just got a phone call last

Re: [QUAD-L] LYRICA

2006-10-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I have a cousin that's a cop, another is a deputy Sherriff and an uncle that is a captain of the guard for the Sheriff's dept' where they handle prisoners all day. In this part of the country pot laws are looked at as just plain stupid ways to fill jail cells. They could go set up a watch on a

Re: [QUAD-L] LYRICA

2006-10-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
It's usually called a kong. Its a chew toy the dog associates with play and affection with is his reward for performing tasks. Amazingly enough, service dogs for the blind rarely rely on such toys. The service dogs are so much smarter than drug or bomb dogs that they are often capable of

Re: [QUAD-L] LYRICA

2006-10-22 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
My two cents on pain, I never had much painuntill almost 15 years post. The doctors were always tellin me its in my head, and I would smirk, like DUH! So I started smoking pot and it helped me get to sleep, I swear ItWorked. I began using advil and aspirin cominations then tylenol. Y'all can

Re: [QUAD-L] UTI

2006-10-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I think straight cathing causes your uti's. If you don't have a residual of 150cc's or more then your just introducing bacteria to your bladder. I only catheterize for specimens and I rarely get 100 cc's. My UTI's always seem to occur after they need a specimen. john In a message dated

Re: [QUAD-L] HANGING A BEDBAG

2006-10-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I've tried that. My legs spasm in my sleep and the line gradually gets pulled a little more and more and then I'm waking up in a puddle. I just use the silicone freedom caths since my skin suddenly decided it wouldn't tolerate latex comfort anymore. The best way to put condoms on is to have a

Re: [QUAD-L] Indwelling Foley

2006-10-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Theres a guy in felicity that told me he began with a 12 french about 20 years ago and now hes using a garden hose *wink* john In a message dated 10/14/2006 4:13:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I have had an indwelling Foley for more than 15 years. I started using

Re: [QUAD-L] Bummed

2006-10-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
It sucks but in Ohio that is all the notice they have to give. New medicare rules are hurting some companies and of course some companies get caught ripping off medicare and medicaid and then they have no choice. Just be real sweet and nice and ask ur facilitator or social service worker what

Re: [QUAD-L] UTI + hemorroid

2006-10-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Once I started using the glyco-lax my hemmoroid problems were solved! I'd do a commercial for them. I cant help thinking of Johnny Cash singing "Ring of Fire" when I take it. Wish I had my pot back so I didn't have to take narcotics so much. john 31 years post C-5 Addicted to pharmacuticals.

Re: [QUAD-L] UTI + hemorroid

2006-10-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Derrick, Ask your doctor about Mandelamine and high dose vitamin C. (anti-infective instead of anti biotics) Your residual is too high to stop catheterizing. Have you tryed bladder thumping? You need a more effective stool softener or your going to have a colostomy. Mirilax, or glycolax and

Re: [QUAD-L] HANGING A BEDBAG

2006-10-13 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I've seen some amazing rigs and rituals that people use for hanging bedbags so they fill with comfort and avoid back preasure. After 31 years I have this down to a simple matter of water always seeking the lowest point. When you lay in bed route the catheter over your leg and into a loop on the

Re: [QUAD-L] Supra-pubic question

2006-10-13 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Do any of you tap around your bladder to cause muscle contractions? I have done this since erehab. It causes the muscles to contract and the sphincter to release the urine in several flows. Because of it I can use an external catheter and avoid all the infections from indwelling catheters. It

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] chair

2006-10-08 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I'm pretty certain it won't move in the elevated position and it won't elevate when it's not level. It does allow to to elevate to reach things. The safetys are probably set by a computer. Maybeit can move slowly while elevated. All elevating chairs that I've seen have tilt sensors and use

Re: [QUAD-L] Door openers

2006-10-08 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I lived in a building with a security door that worked normally for normal people. It had a storm door and a regular door, or so it appeared.You had to have a credit card and swipe it for the door to work. If you were ion a wheelchair it would open itself automatically and if your card told it

Re: [QUAD-L] Insurance / Doctors

2006-10-06 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I just call my doctors assistant and let him know my chair is having a problem. The guys at Care Medical simply call my doctor and tell him what they need a script for. My doctor doesn't fix wheelchairs. Hes like me, hes got to trust them to do it right. I feel fortunate that they do what they

Re: [QUAD-L] seizures

2006-10-05 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
dated 10/3/2006 9:11:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, DeLiMiTeD4 writes: I'm too old to be a teaching object for doctors that are more interested in the stock market and their teachers that aren't going to miss another 10 am tee off. Does any of this sound familiar? john Hospitals and nurses follow

Re: [QUAD-L] seizures

2006-10-03 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
After 31 years as a quadriplegic, I don't even talk to doctors that think my life will improve after a stay in the hospital. I'm sure they have learned tons in the past ten years but I also know they can give me a preasure sore in under a half hour while they discuss a miracle with an

Re: [QUAD-L] Whassup?

2006-10-03 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I just got one john In a message dated 10/3/2006 8:50:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you get 2 of these? One from the Quad-List and One from Me."S. Dial" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, odd. I got your reply John from ur email but not mine or anything else from

[QUAD-L] Re: seizures

2006-10-03 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Dearest Smurff, You start getting a sense of it coming on. Yes the drugs work. They need to build up a level in your system depending on what your trying. If your not satisfied don't hesitate to tell your doctor. I've tried a bunch over the years and transitions to new drugs are the most

Re: [QUAD-L] did i get dropped or did y'all get quiet?

2006-10-03 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Okay! I don't know what I missed but I gotta pay more attention. In a message dated 10/3/2006 4:03:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: no honey, it's because i forget what we were talking about. and then of course - while we chat and you get

Re: [QUAD-L] did i get dropped or did y'all get quiet?

2006-10-02 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
What, no epileptics? I have these great siezures now and then from my brain injury. I usually don't remember much. With neurontin they are milder and I just seem to blackout for about 5 to 10 minutes. I still get some bad ones now and then, but as long as I take about 60mg's of valium they don't

Re: [QUAD-L] Preventative meds to help prevent UTIS

2006-10-02 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Yes Dan, It helps alot. I used Mandelamine and vitamin C all the years that I had an indwelling cath and it helped to prevent the awesome infections. It isn't an anti biotic so you don't build resistance to them and they work well if you do get an infection. john

[QUAD-L] did i get dropped or did y'all get quiet?

2006-10-01 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Do I need to rejoin the list again? and Uhm, instructions please? john

Re: [QUAD-L] Fastest MWD Chair?

2006-09-28 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
If your not gona wear a helmet and you haven't got insurance, maybe 9.5 mph is about as fast as you should go. Don't forget roll cages and nerf bars and signalling lights. Your going to break your neck! john In a message dated 9/28/2006 12:17:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Testing

2006-09-27 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
HELLO DANA!! UHM,, ANY HELP? john In a message dated 9/27/2006 6:25:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not been getting any post for several days. Just testing. Testing.Dana

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I don't object to the ad since frankly, I wouldn't be in a wheelchair if it weren't for a drunk driver. I do think that as groups go, MADD is little more than a group of wealthy people that donate their time and money to other wealthy people while praying they don't get caught driving under the

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I know some folks on here got settlements after their injuries but I can honestly say my life was not affected in any good ways by a SCI. It didn't end my life but it sure didn't improve it. If it stops one more idiot from driving drunk, run the ad. Lets not pretend we have an alternate

Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: pretty lil wheelchairs

2006-09-25 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
My wheelchair is just black so it shows all the dirt and dust. It has scrapes and scratches because the idiot that drives it keeps hitting stuff/furniture/people. There's a bag on the back filled with useless stuff except a stadium blanket for when I'm outside and freezing. Sometimes the tires

Re: [QUAD-L] Whassup?

2006-09-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Well,, I see you. Are you getting this? john In a message dated 9/20/2006 12:06:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Haven't got any mail from quadlist in 5 days ... StephanieSwamp Sista http://360.yahoo.com/curly_top35

Re: [QUAD-L] (no subject)

2006-09-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Ye! you did it! john In a message dated 9/20/2006 12:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: test

Re: [QUAD-L] RE-The sediment in my urine

2006-09-18 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
At a certain point, I believe all of us quads start to decalcify. That is, our bones leech calcium out of our systems. This shows up as that crudy sediment. By the way, Carbonated drinks are documented to accelerrate this propblem in normal people. Most juices are very high in sugar and I try

Re: [QUAD-L] RE-The sediment in my urine

2006-09-18 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I didn't mean to say cranberry juice wasn't good for you. I was saying my choice is to avoid the high calories of most juices. There are vinegars that you can drink like wines. You won't get drunk but the pH is fabulously balanced. It is an aquired taste, but hey, worth a shot. Actual numbers

Re: [QUAD-L] The sediment in my urine

2006-09-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Do you irrigate your bladder. Whrn you say you flush, I'm guessing you mean you irrigate. Different solutions may be helpfull. Adding vinegar to the sterile water can be usefull. Like others have said, you need to talk to a doctor that treats quads and paras. I have a great respect for Uro's

Re: [QUAD-L] Flat tire

2006-09-14 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
It isn't a real suspension, but I know what your talking about. I live near a company that makes castors. They have lots of specialty castors including torsion loaded castors and spring loaded. If I could find someone to raise the front castor arms I could try this idea. the big drive wheels in

Re: [QUAD-L] Recovering

2006-09-13 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
You have all our best wishes for luck with your new pump. john In a message dated 9/13/2006 2:16:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm home since Tuesday morning. Pain isn't bad right now. The pump is in and working!! After surgery I went probably 19 hours without a

Re: [QUAD-L] Roho or Jay gel????

2006-09-13 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I hate when the damn seat deflates. I don't like the jay seat because in 2 hours it feels like contoured cement. The roho is tested every day when my aid drives it into my room. She cvan feel it, I can't. john In a message dated 9/13/2006 3:11:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] Help,,very bad non stop spasms

2006-09-13 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I am coming up on 31 yerars in the chair and have exactly the same problem. I generally take hydrocodone and diazepam. (I tried baclophen and got no relief). My doctor feels I can judge my needs better than he can. After this long, I'm not prone to self destructive behavior so the arguements

Re: [QUAD-L] The sediment in my urine

2006-09-13 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
A larger diameter catheter. If your taking calcium, you may want to stop. If you could get on a bladder regime you could avoid that with an external catheter. The infections stop happening too. good luck. john In a message dated 9/13/2006 7:40:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] Accessible Home Ownership Seminar

2006-09-12 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
When they build handicapped housing in california, do they make it earthquake proof? john In a message dated 9/11/2006 9:22:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone just wanted to let you all know about a great upcoming event! Recently, a friend and colleague of

Re: [QUAD-L] Flat tire

2006-09-12 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Air filled suck when they go flat and slime works as long as its a small hole but I've managed to tear open tires and inner tubes. The silid tires ride like junk and then have the nerve to come off on hot summer days. I can't believe nobody has combined a tubeless tire with softfill so if ur

Re: [QUAD-L] Can You Read This?

2006-09-12 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I still think spelling is important. While it is possible to make out what your saying it is very uncomfortable. As a brain injury surviver I don't like it when people suffle the letters. lol jhon In a message dated 9/11/2006 2:18:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: fi yuo

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Assistance for a mobility van

2006-09-09 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I have a friend here in ohio that has been a quad for about 14years. He is one of those that got a generous legal settlement. He is also very frugal when it comes to vans. He bought a 4year old Custom raised roof van that a mechanic checked out as in perfect shape. He got it for $14,000. He

Re: [QUAD-L] Does Your Chair Stink?

2006-09-06 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
My chair doubles as an incense burner. It smells like opium. What should I do? john In a message dated 9/6/2006 9:21:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does You Chair Stink? You know what I mean, lol. Do you own one of those stinky/ smelly chairs? Wheelchairs are like

Re: [QUAD-L] syrinx question

2006-08-31 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I was under the belief that syrinx formed where the flow of spinal fluid was interupted or altered although I couldn't tell you if the tissue was starved of fluid or flooded by it. john In a message dated 8/31/2006 10:11:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ron, the doctors

Re: [QUAD-L] Leg bag opener

2006-08-26 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
it really is the last word when your in some pr***s office and ya just want them to remember you. john In a message dated 8/26/2006 3:17:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I couldn't live w/ominehttp://www.wheelchairs.com/legbag2.htm Where do you empty it when it's

Re: [QUAD-L] question

2006-08-24 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
If you feel depressed to the point you will tell us, I think you might talk to a shrink. Depression is an illness like a UTI or a bedsore. Talk to him andtry something short term to see if your better. Good lord yes I get depressed! john

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair back preferences

2006-08-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I'd like to say, DAYUM! You made an EJ last 29 years. Positioning is extremely important and articulated chairs need special checking to be sure your body articulates with the chair. Most leg supports are often just heel pads and are not even contacting the leg in a way to prevent problems.

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Where Is Everyone?? ~ sweating

2006-08-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
One pee's! john In a message dated 8/19/2006 3:22:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ironic that sweating is natures way of removing some of the toxins that build up in your body, in addition to its cooling. What do you think happens to those toxins when one doesn't

Re: [QUAD-L] Psycho-somatic Weather

2006-08-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
If it was 106F here I'd have to put on a sombrero and go out. I've had people tell me i'm hyper-sensative and it is probably all in my mind. This doesn't make it any more comfortable. The reason I don't look at X-rays of my back, hips and knees is so I don't get a brainfull of pain. I use to

Re: [QUAD-L] Fast Chairs?

2006-08-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I want a chair where the castors are uneffected by ruts. I do like the 6wheel configurations that have been stolen from swedish designers. lol (that would pi** off someone but i still think it's true) I personally think there must be a way to improve this outdoors as much as six wheels helps

Re: [QUAD-L] New wheelchair wheelie wheels question

2006-08-16 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Any chair worth it's salt can flip itself. I'd highly recommend you keep the wheelie bars. john In a message dated 8/16/2006 8:10:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just got a new electric .wheelchair Question on those back wheelie wheels things.Do i really need them,they

Re: [QUAD-L] Hemorrhoids

2006-08-11 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Hemmoroids? OoYes! Been there done that. I recommend mirilax and go easy on the stimmulation. Be sure to get the suppository up high. Try using an extra preperation H between bowel movements. Drink plenty of water. If it doesn't clear up you might want to talk to your doctor. You won't enjoy

Re: [QUAD-L] What happen?

2006-08-07 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Gosh,, the things I could say about religion and politicssure wish I had more to say about sex. I don't watch PBS often, too many commercials. I don't think the gov't should subsidize a toy for the rich and British. If I want culture I'll grow some. How can you tell if blue man isn't being

Re: [QUAD-L] What would you have done.

2006-08-07 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Some folks just don't know how to travel. john In a message dated 8/7/2006 9:35:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W, Your subject line asks "what would you have done?" That depends on which perspective one is coming from. Had I been the quad I probably would not have

Re: [QUAD-L] What would you have done.

2006-08-07 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
That is one more thing I hate about Amtrac! john In a message dated 8/6/2006 10:55:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This week has been crazy. Let me try to explain Mr. X of New Jersey called a couple of months ago to tell me that he was coming to Chicago for a

Re: [QUAD-L] Invacare tdx Wheelchairs

2006-08-04 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I got a TDX 3 a few years ago. I would think it would pay for the TDX 5. Not sure if this has brushless gearless motors tho. Whatever you get make sure it takes the big batteries. These 24 nf's are the size above a barbi car. Besides, bigger batteries stabilize your chair by lowering your

Re: [QUAD-L] Life is wonderful

2006-08-03 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Dial the power back a little toward the tortise when your trying not to jerk. If you are using an unprogrammed drive selection it will jerk a lot. I have drive 1 for indoor speeds and power with drive 2 to go outside. Drive 3 wasn't programmed so it jerks a bit when I try using it. Drive 4 just

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Angelique and Sandy

2006-07-26 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Just explain that you can't be born again because born again christians get e/thing they want and your spine won't heal no matter what you believe or what BS healer you go to. I can't be born again because I believe in what jesus said about rich folks. Frankly the born again thing always comes

Re: [QUAD-L] conspiracy

2006-07-24 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I'm satisfied that GW Bush was caught by 9/11 with his pants down. One of those events that was hard to fathom even with warning. All big events like that arer predictable with hiindsight and I'm sure someone saw it coming and nobody listened to him while he screamed "I told you so!" into a

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
It is not ok to kill people. We are talking about exploiting the availability of human tissue. Just stem cells. These are not and never will be humans. These are unassigned cells. They have no thoughts, no ambitions, no sense of self, and most importantly, no womb. If I gave you all the pieces

Re: [QUAD-L] So, what do ya think of stem cell chat?

2006-07-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I don't think I've changed anyone"s mind about stem cells. I think everyone here has there opinions. I'm sure the moral arguement against use of embryonic stem cells wouldn't exist if they caused hair to grow on bald people , or guarenteed weight loss while imcreasing the size of your

Re: [QUAD-L] Emailing: Our_tax_dollars_at_wo

2006-07-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I think Bush would violate any or all morals to justify his morals. God only knows what he believes. White house leakls are good if they are authorized. Lies are good if they advance his position. Killing is good if it advances his position. But taxes on rich are bad! John In a message dated

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-23 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
He was wahabi and bath and you are right! I didn't care what saddam did as long as he did it to his friends, the kuwaitis, the saudis, the kurds and the iranians. Why should America care if we are buying oil from a sadistic rotten dictator, instead of another sadistic rotten dictator. A little

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed

2006-07-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
What disease or ailment was ever cured by the church? Relkigion only tells you who to hate, not how to get better. john In a message dated 7/20/2006 1:54:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (O'C, I'm copying this from comments I made on another list to respond to you)At

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed- (lets pray not)

2006-07-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
The federal gov't is funding 25million. the stem cell lines the feds insist to be used are contaminated and useless. People wouldn't starve in california of they werent anorexic or bulemic. Maybe stem cell theray will cure that? john In a message dated 7/20/2006 2:43:50 PM Eastern Daylight

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed

2006-07-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Without a womb its just a bacterial gue on the floor. john In a message dated 7/20/2006 3:34:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: no, an individual sperm only contains 23 chromosomes need to be human. That is where I draw the line. It's a human when a human egg and human

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed

2006-07-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Jim,, I have brain damage and I still can't figure out what your arguement is? You just keep saying everyone is wrong. No IV clinics now? Keep embryos frozen? How many chickens do eat for breakfast? I use to call 'm eggs. Can't tell when a rooster gets loose, huh? john In a message dated

Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the Big Picture

2006-07-21 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I simplify the moral question easily by asking myself, is there a moral reason not to use tissue from a dying "human"? We do transplants and it is never questioned. On many death penalty cases the personto die is allowed to offer organs to be donated. A baby born with no brain donates heart and

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed

2006-07-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
The "moral" right have hijacked the republicans and turned them into idiots. If using embryonic stem cells is killing life then is washing them down the drain holding them in high esteem. By Bushes reasoning we should be closing invitro-fertilization clinics. Fat chance. Who are the boobs,

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed

2006-07-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
he just made it impossible to do stem cell research in a facility that accepts gov't funding. A little technicallity that makes 97% of the medical fasilities in the US unavailable for this research.I hope he watches his children die of a slow debiltating disease that would have been curable in

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed

2006-07-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
The last cure medicine came thru massive gov't effort. Remember polio. Yup. Last time medicine cured anything. Of course, people still refude the vaccine for their children because it would be God's will if they became infected. You don't see many refusing penecillan to fight syphilus, even tho

Re: [QUAD-L] Stem Cell Bill Killed

2006-07-20 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
What BS! The NIH also claims there is 22 existing stem cell lines that can be purchased to use to study. These stem cell lines where all contaminated by 2001. But they will still sell you the left over slime. Right now several scientists at several large universities are gathering

Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Crisis in Jacksonville, Fl

2006-07-18 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I have to agree. If your van is useless to you then get it out of your name untill it is repaired or sold and you can try to get another van. Keep something around in case you need to evacuate. Don't be ashamed to ask local churches for help fixing your van. I've heard of churches lending money

Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Crisis in Jacksonville, Fl

2006-07-18 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
It helps churches feel better about themselves , too john In a message dated 7/18/2006 11:15:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wheelchair writes: In a message dated 7/18/2006 10:14:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to agree. If your van is useless to you then get it

Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart

2006-07-17 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Don't kid yourself, you will pay for it. You get lower prices and higher taxes and lower property value while loosing the mom and pop stores that made the community nice to live in. john In a message dated 7/15/2006 5:15:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes

Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart

2006-07-17 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Americans aren't jobless and walmart could pay for healthcare and beatup insurance companies too, dave. john In a message dated 7/15/2006 6:26:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Americans are jobless because they won't work for the same wages. I think all US-WALMART

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] For Those Who Live DownUnder!

2006-07-17 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
I hope nobody gets the idea that I'm a republican, but What would mankind do to combat global warming? Mt pinatubo belched out more greenhouse gasses in 3 weeks than mankind could create in 200 years. Methane pockets under the north sea rupture regularly from volcanic activity and a small

Re: [QUAD-L] For Those Who Live DownUnder!

2006-07-17 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
The man who as governor of texas executed more death row prisoners than any other and as president has gotten more of our troops killed for non-sense, somehow, believe that using some gue thats being flushed down the drain at a fertility clinic, is immoral and against life. I hope when they

Re: [QUAD-L] I Wonder Why

2006-07-17 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
Sandy, You missed the big convo about stem cells about a year ago. There are a lot of folks that think the president is right because he is a very moral man ,,in the mind of some people. Nevermind the science, its immoral to change gods punnishments. Same arguement they had against using

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