Match all of the following

2009-03-08 Thread Lester Caine
Silly question about email search If I select 'Match all of the following' with two search entries looking for two words in body - shouldn't I expect BOTH words to be in each result? I'm looking for 'sony' + 'camera' but am getting hundreds of pages with just camera or just sony in --

Re: testing

2009-03-08 Thread Jay Garcia
On 08.03.2009 00:14, u...@domain.invalid wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group mozilla.test .. thanks -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support _

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Jay Garcia
On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support ___ support-s

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread squaredancer
On 07.03.2009 18:28, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ant to generate the following:? : Hi! I was viewing http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/txtSearchDD.do?jopa=s5SHQCC0IOOaUna7xLgXh3U&norefinement=true&searchTxt=Logitech+Z-2300# and wanted to print preview from the Web page (not Print lin

Re: Can't view email forwarded as attachment

2009-03-08 Thread gNeandr
[08.03.2009 06:06]»technowit...@gmail.com« wrote: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 1.1.14. As of last week, when someone forwards me an email as an attachment, the attachment is not recognized. Its as if it has no clue what to do with the content type (Content-Type: message/rfc822) or recognize

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Alex K.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: as others have said, and I will say too, there is no problem with FF 3. SM 1.1.x is based on the old FF 2 coding, therefore, there are some website coding that will not work in old FF/SM coding -- for example php. I will go out on a hunch and say that SM

SM emial index file does't update

2009-03-08 Thread user
I have a large Mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB. This is located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file doesn't update automatically at incoming new mails. Trying to view new mails lists wrong text content for some several years old messages. Selecting Inbox > Prop

SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread user
I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox > Properties > Rebuild index d

Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-03-08 Thread Rich Gray
Geoff Welsh wrote: on both my Macs (G4, and G5 PPC OSX 10.4)... When you create a second (machine) User account, the new user can launch any App loaded on the machine and it starts up in a virgin state, and they can customize it as they please. This works for FF, Camino, iTunes, Safari...

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Ant
On 3/7/2009 2:47 PM PT, Ray_Net typed: I use Seamonkey 1.1.4 and it works fine with the print preview. Install Seamonkey 1.1.14 and you will have the problem. I wonder what changed from v1.1.4 for this printing to fail? I e-mailed Office Depot about this issue. I doubt they will reply or do

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Ant
On 3/7/2009 3:20 PM PT, BeeNeR typed: On or about 3/7/2009 12:28 PM, Ant typed the following: Hi! I was viewing http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/txtSearchDD.do?jopa=s5SHQCC0IOOaUna7xLgXh3U&norefinement=true&searchTxt=Logitech+Z-2300# and wanted to print preview from the Web page (not Print l

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Ant
On 3/7/2009 4:06 PM PT, JeffM typed: Ant wrote: http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/txtSearchDD.do?jopa=s5SHQCC0IOOaUna7xLgXh3U&norefinement=true&searchTxt=Logitech+Z-2300# Yet another steaming pile of broken code: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/txtSearchD

Re: secnews

2009-03-08 Thread JAS
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: JAS wrote: What needs to be enabled in about.config to be able to enter the secnews? I was getting it until yesterday and today I receive a message " the site uses a security protocol that is not enabled"--I must of changed something. nope! Nothings chan

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Ant
On 3/8/2009 4:27 AM PT, squaredancer typed: Maybe an extension that you guys have in common - may be worth listing and comparing! My FF 1.5.0.9 extensions: AVG Safe Search 8.0 (from AVG free) Bookmarks Backup 0.4.9 Exitbutton FF 0.4.1 ImageShack 0.1.6 rightclick Java Quickstarter 1.0 Keywordf

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Martin Feitag
Ant schrieb: On 3/7/2009 3:20 PM PT, BeeNeR typed: On or about 3/7/2009 12:28 PM, Ant typed the following: Hi! I was viewing http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/txtSearchDD.do?jopa=s5SHQCC0IOOaUna7xLgXh3U&norefinement=true&searchTxt=Logitech+Z-2300# and wanted to print preview from the Web pa

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread squaredancer
On 08.03.2009 15:30, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ant to generate the following:? : On 3/8/2009 4:27 AM PT, squaredancer typed: Maybe an extension that you guys have in common - may be worth listing and comparing! My FF 1.5.0.9 extensions: AVG Safe Search 8.0 (from AVG free) Bookm

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Keith Whaley
Alex K. wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: as others have said, and I will say too, there is no problem with FF 3. SM 1.1.x is based on the old FF 2 coding, therefore, there are some website coding that will not work in old FF/SM coding -- for example php. I will go out on a hunch

NIH videocasting problems

2009-03-08 Thread jon q public
Dear Seamonkey support, I can not get this link to play using flash 10/seamonkey 1-1-14 tho it works under windows. using the same computer lfs 2.6.28.7 #9 SMP PREEMPT Sat Mar 7 21:32:09 EST 2009 i686 athlon-4 https://webmeeting.nih.gov/p74816243/ It starts to load and freezes Any suggestio

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Ray_Net
Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy people. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@l

Re: NIH videocasting problems

2009-03-08 Thread Ray_Net
jon q public wrote: Dear Seamonkey support, I can not get this link to play using flash 10/seamonkey 1-1-14 tho it works under windows. using the same computer lfs 2.6.28.7 #9 SMP PREEMPT Sat Mar 7 21:32:09 EST 2009 i686 athlon-4 https://webmeeting.nih.gov/p74816243/ It starts to load and f

Re: NIH videocasting problems

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
jon q public wrote: Dear Seamonkey support, I can not get this link to play using flash 10/seamonkey 1-1-14 tho it works under windows. using the same computer lfs 2.6.28.7 #9 SMP PREEMPT Sat Mar 7 21:32:09 EST 2009 i686 athlon-4 https://webmeeting.nih.gov/p74816243/ It starts to load and f

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox >

Re: Match all of the following

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Lester Caine wrote: Silly question about email search If I select 'Match all of the following' with two search entries looking for two words in body - shouldn't I expect BOTH words to be in each result? I'm looking for 'sony' + 'camera' but am getting hundreds of pages with just camera or ju

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy people. this is a recurrent problem with Jim from down-under. He done it many, many tim

Need help in responding to messages

2009-03-08 Thread Keith Whaley
I just tried to respond to a poster who posted a message on support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org, which I regularly get in my Inbox. That message header also contained the Newsgroups mozilla.support.seamonkey, and mozilla.support.firefox. As I pressed "Reply All", a drop-down message window was di

Re: Need help in responding to messages

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Keith Whaley wrote: I just tried to respond to a poster who posted a message on support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org, which I regularly get in my Inbox. That message header also contained the Newsgroups mozilla.support.seamonkey, and mozilla.support.firefox. As I pressed "Reply All", a drop-down

Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-03-08 Thread Geoff Welsh
Rich Gray wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: on both my Macs (G4, and G5 PPC OSX 10.4)... When you create a second (machine) User account, the new user can launch any App loaded on the machine and it starts up in a virgin state, and they can customize it as they please. This works for FF, Camino, iT

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread user
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > u...@domain.invalid wrote: >> I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on >> a FAT32 file system. >> >> The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. >> Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text con

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Leonidas Jones
u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, sho

Re: Match all of the following

2009-03-08 Thread Bill Spikowski
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Lester Caine wrote: Silly question about email search If I select 'Match all of the following' with two search entries looking for two words in body - shouldn't I expect BOTH words to be in each result? I'm looking for 'sony' + 'camera' but am getting h

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, sho

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Ant
On 3/8/2009 9:02 AM PT, squaredancer typed: WHO has the problems here - you on vers 2.*.* or me on 1.5.0.9 ?? Updates aren't all that some people believe them to be! If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it! Even for security updates? :( -- "An ant on the move does more than a dozing ox." --

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread Ant
On 3/8/2009 8:03 AM PT, Martin Feitag typed: Ant schrieb: On 3/7/2009 3:20 PM PT, BeeNeR typed: On or about 3/7/2009 12:28 PM, Ant typed the following: Hi! I was viewing http://www.officedepot.com/catalog/txtSearchDD.do?jopa=s5SHQCC0IOOaUna7xLgXh3U&norefinement=true&searchTxt=Logitech+Z-230

Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-08 Thread chicagofan
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: chicagofan wrote: My new msgFilterRules.dat has 1KB [from today's entries] and there is a "rulesbackup.dat" file *created when that happened, that has 15KB. Is that the same file, or is that backup for something else on that date? I've never heard nor

Re: SM 1.1.14 Message Filters

2009-03-08 Thread chicagofan
chicagofan wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: chicagofan wrote: My new msgFilterRules.dat has 1KB [from today's entries] and there is a "rulesbackup.dat" file *created when that happened, that has 15KB. Is that the same file, or is that backup for something else on that date? I'v

Re: Status of SeaMonkey

2009-03-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
»Q« wrote: In , Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Another oddity is that the Xref: header line for the above article is Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com mozilla.support.seamonkey:37378 As I wrote. My SM 1.1.14 reports 37227 articles in the group.

Re: 550 Permission Denied

2009-03-08 Thread JayGee
On Mar 7, 8:16 pm, gabrielle wrote: > I am brand new to web editing. SeaMonkey seems user friendly and the > interface is something I can easily understand. I had no problem > editing the site, but when I go to "publish", I continuously get an > error that says "550 image filename.jpg permission d

Line Numbers in SM Composer?

2009-03-08 Thread JayGee
Is there such a thing as being able to turn on line numbering (without it becoming a part of the code) in the SM Composer? I've checked quite a few things out on the support site, FAQs, etc. and could find nothing covering this subject. I had been using the W3c code checker and it was giving me l

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Daniel
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy people. this is a recurrent problem with Jim from

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Leonidas Jones
Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy people. this is a recurrent problem

Re: SM emial index file does't update

2009-03-08 Thread Daniel
u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large Mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB. This is located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file doesn't update automatically at incoming new mails. Trying to view new mails lists wrong text content for some several years old mess

Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-03-08 Thread Geoff Welsh
Geoff Welsh wrote: Rich Gray wrote: This smells like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389136. How did you install SM? Did you install it as a regular user by authenticating or just do it in an admin account? Seems to me that there was something about the admin user having to run

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Daniel
Leonidas Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy people. this

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Leonidas Jones
Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy

Re: Print Preview freezes on Office Depot's Web site?

2009-03-08 Thread squaredancer
On 08.03.2009 21:59, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ant to generate the following:? : On 3/8/2009 9:02 AM PT, squaredancer typed: WHO has the problems here - you on vers 2.*.* or me on 1.5.0.9 ?? Updates aren't all that some people believe them to be! If it ain't broke, don't try t

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-08 Thread noreply
Answer - when Seamonkey converts to plain text it does so BADLY. Most paragraph breaks are removed (no blank line between paragraphs) and sometimes lines are broken at odd boundaries. I think there are explainable anomalies for this behavior, but either SM needs a much better converter, or give us

Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-03-08 Thread Rich Gray
Geoff Welsh wrote in part: Geoff Welsh wrote: Rich Gray wrote: This smells like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389136. It seems I have fixed the problem. ... Thanks for the bug link! Sorry I was not "around" to post it earlier. FWIW, I did add your comments to the bug, alt

Re: SM emial index file does't update

2009-03-08 Thread terje
Daniel wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large Mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB. This is located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file doesn't update automatically at incoming new mails. Trying to view new mails lists wrong text content for some several

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread terje
Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread terje
terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Try

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Leonidas Jones
terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Try

Re: Can't view email forwarded as attachment

2009-03-08 Thread Leonidas Jones
navoff wrote: On Mar 8, 7:28 am, gNeandr wrote: [08.03.2009 06:06]»technowit...@gmail.com« wrote: I'm currently using SeaMonkey 1.1.14. As of last week, when someone forwards me an email as an attachment, the attachment is not recognized. Its as if it has no clue what to do with the con

Re: Can't view email forwarded as attachment

2009-03-08 Thread navoff
On Mar 8, 7:28 am, gNeandr wrote: > [08.03.2009 06:06]»technowit...@gmail.com« wrote: > > > I'm currently using SeaMonkey 1.1.14. As of last week, when someone > > forwards me an email as an attachment, the attachment is not > > recognized. Its as if it has no clue what to do with the content

Re: test

2009-03-08 Thread NoOp
On 03/07/2009 10:22 PM, jmk...@optusnet.com.au wrote: > jim New plonk filter added. Bye jim. Note: for others that wish to 'filter' jim: jmk...@optusnet.com.au u...@domain.invalid NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.108.93.181 (optusnet.com.au) X-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org X-DMCA-Complaints-To: ab...@

Re: test

2009-03-08 Thread NoOp
On 03/07/2009 10:22 PM, jmk...@optusnet.com.au wrote: > jim New plonk filter added. Bye jim. Note: for others that wish to 'filter' jim: jmk...@optusnet.com.au u...@domain.invalid NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.108.93.181 (optusnet.com.au) X-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org X-DMCA-Complaints-To: ab...

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread NoOp
On 03/08/2009 04:51 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: > Daniel wrote: >> Leonidas Jones wrote: >>> Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > Ray_Net wrote: >> Jay Garcia wrote: >>> On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> jim >>>

Re: test

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
NoOp wrote: On 03/07/2009 10:22 PM, jmk...@optusnet.com.au wrote: jim New plonk filter added. Bye jim. you don't need to post this twice ;-) Note: for others that wish to 'filter' jim: jmk...@optusnet.com.au u...@domain.invalid you shouldn't filter for u...@domain.invalid either. Lots

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
terje wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer doe

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy

Re: Need help in responding to messages

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: I just tried to respond to a poster who posted a message on support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org, which I regularly get in my Inbox. That message header also contained the Newsgroups mozilla.support.seamonkey, and mozilla.support.firefox.

Re: ghk

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 08.03.2009 00:24, jim wrote: --- Original Message --- jim Please test in the "test" group - mozilla.test ... thanks. He is *not* testing ... just trying to annoy people. this is a recurrent proble

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Leonidas Jones
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The proble

Re: test

2009-03-08 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: NoOp wrote: On 03/07/2009 10:22 PM, jmk...@optusnet.com.au wrote: jim New plonk filter added. Bye jim. you don't need to post this twice ;-) Note: for others that wish to 'filter' jim: jmk...@optusnet.com.au u...@domain.invalid you shouldn't filter

Re: test

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: NoOp wrote: On 03/07/2009 10:22 PM, jmk...@optusnet.com.au wrote: jim New plonk filter added. Bye jim. you don't need to post this twice ;-) Note: for others that wish to 'filter' jim: jmk...@optusnet.com.au u...@domain.in

Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update

2009-03-08 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116