Re: memory leaks in thebat! ??
Hello Thomas, Chemists convened on Monday, May 3, 2004 at 20:21 GMT +0700 to watch Thomas Fernandez synthesize: We're a philosophical bunch when there are no betas to dissect. ;-) ^^ I think you can omit this part and it would still be true. ;-) snip Z Although a leak as someone pointed out is something Z that *shouldn't* be in a released product. It's just wrong. I agree with you here. Perhaps I missed it, but I don't recall anyone noticing the issue while they were still in the beta cycle... Of course now that the bug has been revealed, hopefully the issue will be resolved quickly. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View modes don't work
Hello Matt, On Monday, April 19, 2004 at 9:38 AM, Matt Thoene pressed random keys until the following was produced: I have set the View |Global view mode to (No view mode) but when I make a change to one of my custom views, it changes all of them. If the folders share a view mode, that is the expected behaviour. What is the view mode selection in the Folder Properties? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Hyperlink bug?
Hello Manuel, On Monday, April 19, 2004 at 17:15 GMT +0200, Manuel Diaz heard voices say: That trick isn't working in TB! 1.53d under Win98SE, so ... ...so I must have been imagining things. Thanks for confirming my eroding memory. ;-) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Hyperlink bug?
Hello Manuel, On Saturday, April 17, 2004 at 20:57 GMT +0200, engineers were awed when Manuel Diaz constructed: The problem is that ) interpretation depends on the characters after it and that TB! doesn't take ( as a valid character, so there's a lack of consistency. Sort of veering off track a bit, but: Am I imagining things, or has TB's link handling changed? I seem to remember that you could highlight the portion of the link you wanted and use the right-click menu option Open URL to get just that portion. That doesn't seem to work now, so you can't even bypass TB's interpretation. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.10.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: delete msg in VF = delete msg in source folder - why?
Hi Allie, On Sunday, April 18, 2004 at 14:27 GMT -0500, authorities charged Allie Martin for writing: So, if you delete a message in a VF, what do you think will happen then?? :) The only thing I find not obvious is that the message will be deleted according to the deletion settings of the folder where the message really exists. The only time it is sort of confusing is when your search looks through multiple folders, each with different deletion settings. As far as I know, there is no obvious way of browsing virtually deleted messages, is there? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.10.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Two new bugs
Hi Allie, As the 07:10 GMT -0500 on Sunday, April 18, 2004 deadline loomed, Allie Martin madly pounded out: I was reading a message that I had to scroll downwards to read entirely. A URL was in the message towards the end. What viewer(s) is this happening for? I can't confirm with the PTV. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.10.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Two new bugs
Starting on Sunday, April 18, 2004 at 2:22 PM, apparently I began reducing crayon use by typing: What viewer(s) is this happening for? I can't confirm with the PTV. The bug does appear here for the HTML viewer. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.10.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Favourite Contacts
Hello P, On Friday, April 16, 2004 at 17:07 GMT -0400, crowds cheered as P S Graham unveiled: Perhaps I am missing your meaning, but I already do this using the 'groups' functionality of the exisitng AB. Create a Group - Right Click - New - Group and on down. That's what I do, but I think the wish would provide more levels of organization. I read the wish as a wish for folders for the AB. If I'm right, that would allow you to nest groups, which could be very useful for some. Right now, you can have two organizational levels, one by separating into ABs, then within an AB you can have groups. But that's it. Plus, if you put contacts in different ABs, they can't mix for a particular group without duplicating some of the entries. The other difficulty is if you use groups as a way of making lists, like Friday's Party Guests. You may not want to *organize* your contacts based on whether they are in a particular list. I haven't found a scheme, nor can I think of one, that would organize my contacts perfectly. I guess the wish would just allow some to get closer to their ideal. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is v2.10 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Favourite Contacts
Hello Carsten, On Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 23:02 GMT +0200, Carsten Knobloch heard voices say: What do you think about my wish, to see favourit contacts in the folder tree? Sure: With possibillity to enable or disable. Doesn't it already exist in a slightly different format? In the main toolbar, select the arrow next to the new message button and you get a list of your favourite addresses. They're even sorted into submenus based on AB groups. See screenshot. Or am I missing some functionality that is implied in your suggestion? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal attachment: TBmenu.png Current beta is 2.05 beta 16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How about common virtual folder?
Hello Greg, On Sunday, April 4, 2004 at 00:40 GMT -0600, special agents were informed that Greg Strong leaked: Peter was quite CLEAR. I don't know how much more CLEAR I can be. You didn't respond to my example that I posted in my last message, so I assume you missed it. The example discusses pretty much all of your questions. I am saying that I would like to see a folder which can have search results, individual pointers to messages that exist elsewhere AND real messages. From where I sit, that idea does *not* contradict use as pure VF or pure regular folders. Please re-read the example if that's not CLEAR. Let the user decide. That's exactly the crux of MY argument. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.05 beta 12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deleting VF
Hello John, On Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 20:05 GMT -0500, an infinite number of monkeys posting as John typed: So a VF is not involved? No, there is no Common Folder. I'm guessing you're deleting to a CF, no? Nope, one POP3 regular folder deletes to another POP3 regular folder. If it matters, the second folder is a subfolder of the first. Ie: POP3 Account |- Folder 1 | |- Folder 2 |- Virtual Folder The Virtual folder displays some subset of Folder 1's contents (doesn't seem to matter what is in the subset). Deleted mail from Folder 1 goes into Folder 2. Unless otherwise stated, I'm viewing mail using the preview pane. When I view mail in the Virtual Folder, I can delete it (any method) and the message count for Folder 1 goes down as expected. Folder 2's count goes up, as expected if VFs are treated only as *views* of the message bases. Nothing but the general tab on the property page of my 'known' folder.. I didn't notice that special folders don't have that option. However, if I point my VF at my Inbox, deletion of a message while viewing through the VF still sends the message to Trash, as expected. Are you referring to the deletion page on properties of a CF? Not a CF, but yes. I'm either having a brain cramp or we're talking about different things. ?:-| I hope that clears things up. Gots bugs. :-) Certainly seems that way. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.05 beta 12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 is now available
Hello Andreas, Starting on Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 00:00 GMT +0100, Andreas Schwartmann [AS] began reducing crayon use by typing: JA Or Message is unread but isn't time sensitive JA Or Message is important/has useful information AS But in order to qualify the mail for either of these groups, you need AS to read it before. So the flagging is rather a manual thing, not AS something done by filtering, right? Not necessarily. I get some lists (subscribed advertising) that I only occasionally care to look at. So my filter marks it as read and flagged when it gets moved to the appropriate folder. Once I've read it, then the flag comes off. I don't do the following, but I've thought about flagging messages from certain posters to mailing lists since I might want to read their messages with some other priority than normal. I use a combination of colour groups and folders to organize my mailing list mail. Flagging (and parking) gives me an additional level of organization within that general structure. Parking has some meaning imposed (don't move/delete) which may or may not be appropriate. But flagging, just like colour groups can be used however you like. Just like colour groups, there isn't any predefined use or benefit. The only advantage is that you can filter/view messages more comfortably. Oh, and I guess parking isn't ideal because the parked status is usually* cleared when moving messages across folders. * There are exceptions, I just won't go into them here. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.05 beta 12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMane - here we come
Hi Carsten, On Tuesday, March 09, 2004 at 12:13 GMT +0100, clairvoyants were mystified when Carsten Thönges conjured: Take a look at mail-archive's HTML source code and you'll see that you can easily harvest addresses of senders. I remember your detailed analysis. That's why I qualified my original statement with, So if you use the X-No-Archive header That way your original message isn't in the archive and so there isn't any sender information. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMane - here we come
Hello Peter, Tuesday, March 9, 2004, 18:23 GMT +0100: Awash in controversy, Peter Palmreuther [PP] proclaimed: PP Except senders address. As I mentioned in my reply to Carsten, that's why my original message said, So if you use the X-No-Archive header... PP And this is more secure than TMDA-GMane address encryption? I don't do this for my messages, but if your messages aren't in the archive, and any references in the replies are obliterated, yes. PP I know a way to make your address 'zero spam risk' leveled: don't use PP it. Else there'll be /NO/, I repeat: no! way to keep spam risk at PP zero. But the TMDA technique used on GMane is closest to this zero you PP can currently achieve. A double opt-in mailing list vs. a newsgroup are hugely different. Now that Marck (and others) have given more information about what is special about Gmane, that concern is somewhat decreased. But look at the info that was provided when I wrote my reply. PP But with TB*-groups being readable on GMane you still don't post to a PP newsgroup. It's only content made available on a different medium, PP with sensitive information (e-mail-addresses) being effectively PP protected. I for myself venture to say: better protected than on PP mail-archive.com. It is starting to look that way, yes. snip PP obliterated addresses make it impossible to the archive reader to PP contact the author weeks, month or even years later True. PP The effort necessary to decrypt this kind of one way encryption. PP The same that stops most hackers from decrypting Unix password PP files and other related stuff. Like I say, with the replies that have been posted, this seems to be less of a concern. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Importing Multiple E-mail Addresses
Hello Joseph, On Sunday, March 7, 2004 at 11:49 GMT -0600, an infinite number of monkeys posting as Joseph N. typed: Other modern applications have multiple e-mail fields for different e-mail addresses. snip Is this something that is slated for development in the near future? I don't remember about the importing, but TB can handle multiple addresses. Just put them all in the one field, one address per line. You can access them by using address picker when composing a message. Just right click on a contact that has multiple addresses. Select Add Address and you can select which one you want. It would be nice if the address picker could use a tree view to display a contact's multiple addresses. It would make selecting multiple addresses easier. One thing that is completely missing (unless I missed its announcement), is a way of inserting the alternate email addresses using templates. The %AB macros will match any of the listed addresses, but %ABnnnEMAIL inserts only the primary address. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Importing Multiple E-mail Addresses
Hello Joseph, On Sunday, March 7, 2004 at 20:09 GMT -0600, crowds cheered as Joseph N. unveiled: JA I don't remember about the importing, snip That's a manual procedure that is of no use when importing many hundreds contact records, Like I said, I don't know about importing. My comment was about TB not supporting multiple addresses for a single contact. TB does support multiple addresses, in fact it supports an arbitrary number of addresses per contact. It may not be the most convenient thing in the world, but... Have you tried exporting a contact with multiple addresses from TB and comparing how that looks to the file you're importing? As a work-around, maybe a short third-party script/macro could get you going. Different issue, Call it thread drift...g -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Question
Hello Marcus, As the 16:23 GMT +0100 on Thursday, February 5, 2004 deadline loomed, Marcus Ohlström [MO] madly pounded out: MO True. What about Sort threads based on latest received message in each MO thread? Isn't that what I wrote originally? I was told that is wrong. So I'm really confused about how the threading works with this option. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.03 Beta/53 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/33 is now available
Hello Stefan, On Tuesday, January 13, 2004 at 22:37 GMT +0200, aliens probed Stefan Tanurkov and found: Here is a short list of changes: Did you change how threads are sorted? I sort by received time in descending order. Now the threads are sorted by the last received message instead of the first received message. Personally this would be best as an option in the view mode configuration. I can see a use for both sorting methods, though generally I liked the old system better. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/33 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03 Beta/28 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another new feature, with the old ones still unfixed !?
Hello Alexander, On Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 00:54 GMT +0500, crowds cheered as Alexander Leschinsky [AL] unveiled: AL It doesn't happen at all, misunderstanding from user's side is NOT TB AL bug AL Context menu change VM always globally, changing VM in folder's AL properties change only one folder, also always. This one isn't a bug, but it is a rough edge. In every other respect, manipulating the column bar directly is a local change (well, it changes the current view mode, but that is sort of local). All of a sudden, right clicking on the column headers changes global options. That is counter intuitive. If the discrepancy is desired, then it should be made clear by the menu's wording. Otherwise it should change *local* settings. I suppose the third alternative is to add options to the menu so that *both* local or global changes can be made. For a feature that is otherwise so nice and reasonably easy to use, this is a huge stumbling block. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.03.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03.6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another new feature, with the old ones still unfixed !?
Hello Alexander, On Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 00:54 GMT +0500, crowds cheered as Alexander Leschinsky [AL] unveiled: AL It doesn't happen at all, misunderstanding from user's side is NOT TB AL bug AL Context menu change VM always globally, changing VM in folder's AL properties change only one folder, also always. This one isn't a bug, but it is a rough edge. In every other respect, manipulating the column bar directly is a local change (well, it changes the current view mode, but that is sort of local). All of a sudden, right clicking on the column headers changes global options. That is counter intuitive. If the discrepancy is desired, then it should be made clear by the menu's wording. Otherwise it should change *local* settings. I suppose the third alternative is to add options to the menu so that *both* local or global changes can be made. For a feature that is otherwise so nice and reasonably easy to use, this is a huge stumbling block. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 2.03.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03.6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Embarrassed to ask, but..
Hi Marck, On Friday, December 5, 2003 at 13:35 GMT +, authorities charged Marck Pearlstone for writing: If you want a paragraph to reformat automatically when you edit it, turn on auto-format! Could the Windows editor[1] be another solution for Chris? ;-) [1] Options - Message Format -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.01.56 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Box Quote not working... or is it me...???
Hi Mark, On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:18:27 +0100, Mark Partous wrote Forgot to post QT wrap: You should use the wrap QT in the macro repository (see link from message footer). The version you have is more vulnerable when nesting complex templates. -- Thanks, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.01.26 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Box Quote not working... or is it me...???
Hi Carsten, On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:38:56 +0100, Carsten Thönges wrote Perhaps this one works, I have it as a QT named bqw [w for wrapped :-)] This one's better, shorter and uses less voodoo to manage recursion: But it doesn't do wrapping... ;-) -- Thanks, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.01.26 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.03 - X-mailer header
Hello Tony, It was Monday, October 20, 2003 at 22:32 GMT +0100, when Tony Boom wrote: SF There is currently no ability for you to customize what the text SF of that Header is. But that would be nice. Don't hold your breath for that. Stefan's position was made very clear during the v2.0 beta series when they just introduced the %SetHeader stuff. My message which basically outlines their position: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg28587.html Stefan's reply confirming: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg28588.html -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 2.01 / PGP 8.0 Encryption does not work
Hello Allen, On Wednesday, October 15, 2003 at 11:09 GMT -0400, a witness saw Allen [A] commit: A If SmartBat is so smart, why oh why must it remove my carefully placed A space from my template?! I haven't tried it, but you could probably force the issue by adding a comment to the end of the line. For example: -- %Rem=Sig Delimiter -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [BayesIt] Bayesit misses spam when The Bat! first opened
Hello Leif, On Thursday, October 9, 2003 at 08:40 GMT -0600, a witness saw Leif Gregory [LG] commit: LG Well, I'm guessing it's about time to put this thread to rest. Yes, please. ;-) I know, I'm coming late to the party, but the seemingly obvious and appropriate solution is yet again being overlooked. LG I'd imagine that eventually, there won't be much differentiation to LG new users what constitutes the base TB software and what constitutes LG an add-on. I agree. LG To them it'll be the whole package, and a problem with an LG add-on will be a problem with TB in their eyes. Therefore, I think LG that ultimately, things will be better served by keeping them on LG TBBETA and TBUDL. Why not TBTECH and TBUDL? Really, think about regexps. When they were first introduced in TB, they were discussed in immense detail in TBUDL. There were lots of complaints and so TBTECH was set up for *advanced* discussions of TB related issues. That doesn't mean there is no discussion on TBUDL or TBBETA, just that in-depth discussions get pushed to TBTECH. Now regexp support is good enough that the only time regexps need to be discussed on TBBETA is when the template engine changes and major template overhauls are necessary. How often does that happen? If you still don't believe that regexps and plugins should be treated the same way, consider: - Both are for advanced users. - Both extend functionality. Some may argue that the functionality should be included natively in TB, but: - Neither plugins nor regexps are necessary for a good chunk of users. - Many people feel they have no hope of understanding either, but want the functionality. - Not very many people are actively developing plugins or regexps publicly on theses lists. Although, privately, who knows? The parallels are uncanny. As I see it, plugin support is not a BETA issue anymore since the feature exists in the official release. The plugin interface seems to be stable, though I suppose Alexey or Stefan are about the only ones who could say for sure. As such, it seems TBBETA is the absolute *worst* list[1] for these discussions. *ANY* of the other lists[1] would be more appropriate. Yes, the plugins themselves may be in beta stages, but by that same token, so are many of the regexp based templates that get developed on TBTECH. Heck, even if you really don't want TBTECH to be polluted, then why was TBDEV created? If it isn't for the discussion of the development of plugins (which would include user feedback), it seems to be a pointless list. I don't think it is reasonable for the moderators to delegate this decision onto the members. Sure, read the arguments, but then make a decision amongst yourselves and let us know. This is *not* a democracy, it is a friendly dictatorship and you guys are doing a fantastic job. Don't forget though, the reason it has worked so well is because you established clear rules and enforce them vigilantly. I don't see how this topic is any different. LG It just means that Marck, Allie, and I will have to come up with new LG trouting templates for people who post non-beta add-ons to TBBETA and LG vice-versa! ;-) Just mutate the trout you use for regexp discussions that go too far on TBUDL. ;-) [1] The lists referenced are the @thebat.dutaint.com lists of course. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Beta site is up! The Bat! v2.00.18
Hello Thomas, On Sunday, September 28, 2003 at 12:39 GMT +0700, engineers were awed when Thomas Fernandez [TF] constructed: TF How did you add an address manually? I see that the AB pops up when I TF hit alt-F8 and I can add address from the AB, but don't know how to TF add them manually. You need to use the unmarked text box below the recipient list, the one next to the quick search box. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.00.18 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Beta site is up! The Bat! v2.00.18
Hi Stefan, On Sunday, September 28, 2003 at 00:13 GMT -0400, Stefan Tanurkov [ST] heard voices say: ST If I understand you right, it'll be laid out the way you mean - ST changes will be listed by builds, with the latest changes on the top ST and earlier ones at the bottom... That's the plan :-) Excellent. That will be very useful. Thanks. JA This worked, but I must ask, why was my phone number required? ST I suppose, to call you and have a chat in case you have something ST interesting to say? :-) ;-) ST I would agree, it shouldn't be mandatory, I think we'll change it ST to optional. Again, this is just for some consciousness, as I ST mentioned in my previous reply in this thread. I figured as much, but it seemed odd for some reason. JA Very nice, though it isn't obvious what that text field is for. ST Should a big yellow label put somewhere to describe the meaning? ;-) ST Ugh, it reminds me about the need to update the help... Big yellow labels are always nice. Maybe it should be animated? ;-) Seriously though, perhaps you could put some throw away default text until the box is selected? ST Ha! I guessed somebody will as for that :-) You are the first, my ST congratulations! ;-) Excellent! ;-) ST Yes, I'm thinking about this, it just needs some ST idea of how it can be done - currently, I'm thinking of two buttons ST (Add and Modify), but it doesn't look very nice to mee... That would probably be clearer than my idea. I was thinking more along the lines of right clicking the address, selecting an edit option which would then move the entry to the edit text box. But then you'd need a cancel or undo feature... -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.00.18 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't change the subject? -changed the subject -and so did I!
Hello Richard, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 10:55 GMT -0400: Awash in controversy, Richard M. Newman [RMN] proclaimed: RMN I have exactly the same problem with 2.00 %SUBJECT I seem to remember the suggestion that one should use the SetHeader macro. I could be wrong, but it should be something like: %SetHeader(Subject,new subject) RMN Plus some other standard macros that no longer work. No one RMN else seemed to care! What standard macros are you referring to? If you're talking about the templates in the macro repository, any recursive template will not work in the current version. However, soon after the first beta with the new engine came out, the recursive templates were updated on this list. I know Marck has been thinking about how to incorporate the new templates into the repository. I think he's basically decided how it should look, now the only questions I see are: when it will happen and how much help he needs to do it all. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.00.06 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Box Quote Macro
Hello Peter,
As the 13:36 GMT +0200 on Thursday, September 4, 2003 deadline loomed,
Peter Fjelsten [PF] madly pounded out:
J Note the bq template as written above is not tested, but it should
J work.
PF Hmm, it doesn't here.
Ok, well I tweaked my modification of the boxquote QT, and I have it
working as well as we can get at the moment. It seems TB is smart
enough to recognize that a line with a quote prefix is in a different
paragraph than a line without one, even if they are not separated by a
blank line.
So short of writing a macro plugin or making some rather complicated
recursive wrapping template system, I give you:
=[Begin bqa QT]=
%REM=' bqa - Modified Paste as Boxquote
original written by Carsten Thoenges, December 2002
June 2003 - use new features of v1.63 beta 9
Last modified: 2003-09-05
'%-
%_bqTopAndTail=-%-
%_bqTopCorner=,%-
%_bqBottomCorner=`%-
%_bqSide=| %-
%_bqTitleFormat= [ %CURSOR ]%-
%-
%If:+%_bqFirstTime+=++:+%-
%___%_bqFirstTime=No%-
%___%_bqTopCorner%_bqTopAndTail%_bqTitleFormat
%-
%___%_bqText=%-
%__%_Strip_Text('%ClipBoard')%-
%__%Wrapped(%QInclude('Strip'))%-
%___%-
%-
%___%SetPattRegExp='(?is)(\n)\z'%-
%___%If:%RegExpMatch(%_bqText)=:%_bqText='%_bqText
'+%-
%SetPattRegExp='(?is)\A(.*?)\n(.*\n)\z'%-
%RegExpBlindMatch(%_bqText)%-
%If:%Subpatt(2):%-
%___%_bqSide%SubPatt(1)%-
%___%_bqText='%Subpatt(2)'
%___%QInclude(bqa)%-
:%-
%___%_bqSide%_bqText%-
%___%_bqBottomCorner%_bqTopAndTail%-
%___%_bqFirstTime=''%-
=[ End bqa QT]=
This is not perfect and will fail in relatively common situations.
Perhaps the Strip QT should be modified to forcibly remove all newline
characters. But I'll avoid that modification for now if the template
above does the trick for you.
--
Thanks for writing,
Januk Aggarwal
Current beta is 2.00 | Using TBBETA information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration question
Hello Neal, It was foretold that on Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 4:56 PM, Neal [N] would type: N Sorry if old topic, This is a touchy subject, so I'll only comment on: N but couldn't see this subject in the archives. Hmm, I found a number of threads very quickly: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29569.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29561.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29498.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29486.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29466.html Those are only the first messages of the threads and I think I probably missed a few. They were all on the first page of the archive. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration question and more...
Hello Neal, On Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 7:01 PM, Neal heard voices say: This another example of the nerd mentality at RitLabs Um, what is the nerd mentality? - If you're talking about the registration policy, I won't discuss that. - If you found my reply rude or curt, then I apologize, but this subject has been beaten to a pulp and then some. - If you think I work for RITLabs, please be advised that except for a couple of people on this list, nobody can speak officially for RITLabs. I love TheBat!, but suffer with the inability to have all messages stored in the same directory if I so wish. Why not? Use a simple outgoing filter to filter your mail to the Inbox and you'll have exactly what you want. That's what I do for any mail that doesn't have an obvious home in my folder structure. I seem to remember a promise from Ritlabs that 2.xx would support this feature. I don't understand what feature is supposedly missing, but we are only on version 2.0 beta 3, so they could have a number of releases before the v2.xx promise is broken. So now I am stuck with an unregistered copy if I go past 2.0 Beta 1 without any explanation? The best post I've seen to date (granted, I haven't read them all) is: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg29632.html And based on the content of that message, I'm not replying again to this thread. If you want to discuss your concern about that missing feature, please start a new thread. At this time Thebat! is not a user friendly program. I disagree, but then this topic has been rehashed a million times on TBUDL, so again I won't comment on this point. I have not participated on TBUDL for quite some time, so I can't say when this discussion has last been heard, but I'm sure a generous soul could help us locate a thread or two in the archive. ? Why can't I just clear the trash ?? From the Beta 3 release notes: ,-- [ http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tb200b03.txt ] | [-] The Empty Trash folder on Exit was ignored `-- Or is there some other problem? Again, answer this question in a new thread. The subject on this one was moved to TBOT by the moderators. See link above for details. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions/problems with 1.63 and 2.0
Hello Robert, On Friday, August 22, 2003 at 07:06 GMT -0400, Robert Lansdale pressed random keys until the following was produced: snip Is there a way to have files deleted from the Inbox without having them go to the Trash folder? Your best bet is to create a manual filter with the Delete Message action. You have the option of assigning a Hot Key to the filter to make life even easier. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 2.0b2 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %SETHEADER etc. macros
Hello Bill, On Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:39 GMT -0400, engineers were awed when Bill Mccarthy [BM] constructed: BM First of all, you are only addressing pre-Inbox (not pre-Outbox) BM filtering. Very true, which is why I said it might not be elegant enough. BM Secondly, this approach, AFAIK, does not continue the filtering BM process - the reason I've been requesting a pre-Inbox filter in the BM first place. You mean have a general clean-up filter then process the cleaned messages through arbitrary other filters? Then you're absolutely right, the current filtering fails again. And yet another reason why I said my solution might not be elegant enough. BM These are the approaches I've considered and both are awful :-( Very true. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 1.63b11 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another take on v2
Hello Alexander, On Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 14:55 GMT +0600, authorities charged Alexander Leschinsky [AL] for writing: JA Was the plug-in interface or sample code posted somewhere? AL AFAIK - stefan was done it in TBDEV after beta8 Ah, it appears I missed it in the archives[*]. Hmm, I could have sworn I checked thoroughly. The eyesight must be going. Thanks. * In case anyone else was wondering: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00380.html -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current beta is 1.63b11 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta 10 / Wrap Quoting QT
Hi Carsten,
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 02:03 GMT +0200, a creature mimicking
Carsten Thönges wrote:
Is it a good idea to take a %_wrap_limit parameter into account
and do something like shown in the follwing pseudo code?
if %_wrap_limit == :
%Wrapped(%_Wrap_Paragraph_1)
else:
%Wrapped(%_wrap_limit, %_Wrap_Paragraph_1)
Good call. Of course, your pseudo-code is fairly close to real code,
so:
=[Begin wrap QT]=
%REM='
Multi-Paragraph wrapping routine using features from TB 1.63b11
Written June 2003 by Januk Aggarwal
Notes:
1. This template can be used alone to wrap clipboard
contents or can be used as a wrapping engine by assigning
text to the variable, %_Wrap_Text, in the driver template.
2. Wrapping limit can be set optionally by defining the
variable %_Wrap_Limit in the driver template
'%-
%-
%IF:'%_Wrap_FirstTime'='':'%-
%___%IF:%_Wrap_Text=:%_Wrap_Text(%Clipboard)%-
%___%_Wrap_FirstTime=No'%-
%-
%IF:'%-
%SetPattRegexp=(?is-m)[^\n]+%-
%RegexpMatch(%_Wrap_Text)''':'%-
%-
%SetPattRegexp=(?is-m)^(.*?)((\n((\w{0,5}(\\s*)+)?\s*\n)+)(.*)\s*$|\z)%-
%RegexpBlindMatch(%_Wrap_Text)%-
%-
%_Wrap_Paragraph_1(%Subpatt(1))%-
%_Wrap_Blank_Space(%Subpatt(3))%-
%_Wrap_Remainder_Of_Text(%Subpatt(7))%-
%-
%If:%_Wrap_Limit=:%-
%%Wrapped(%_Wrap_Paragraph_1):%-
%%Wrapped(%_Wrap_Limit, %_Wrap_Paragraph_1)
%_Wrap_Text(%_Wrap_Remainder_of_Text)%-
%-
%QInclude(wrap)'%-
=[ End wrap QT]=
And your addition to the driver template looks good with a very minor
modification.
=[Begin Driver Template]=
%_Wrap_Text=%Quotes%-
%_Wrap_Limit=50%-
%QInclude(wrap)%-
=[ End Driver Template]=
--
Thanks for writing,
Januk Aggarwal
Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A
Current beta is 1.63b11 | Using TBBETA information:
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Re: New Smart Quote Prefixing Not working
Hello Greg, On Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 08:59 GMT -0500, a creature mimicking Greg Strong [GS] wrote: snip GS You were close on the AB entry, but not totally correct. After running GS the 'Full Name' QT the output received was Strong, Greg (Rr-Ml). snip GS I'll have to learn more about RegEx and macros to understand why GS the 'M' is being picked up. That one is easy. The regexp in the initials QT looks for a dash, underscore, equals sign, at symbol, period or whitespace as the delimiters for a word. Additionally the initial must be a valid alphanumeric character (a-z, A-Z, 0-9). So the parentheses are treated as neither a word delimiter nor a valid initial, so the R is skipped. That leaves the M. I could add parentheses to the list of valid delimiters, but I don't think it is worthwhile. After all, how often does someone have a real part of their name in parentheses? Now you could argue that I should ignore anything in quotes, parentheses or some other marking scheme. I could try to do that, but it would add a tremendous level of complexity for very little gain. That and it would be a lot of work to try and get such an expression to be as robust as the current one. GS Any better ideals on how to differentiate my different email accounts so GS I don't mess up the macros? You could modify the full name QT to better suit your needs if you wanted. You don't *have* to pull the name from the address book. In fact, it might be preferable to *not* do that. That's personal taste. JA [1] Syntax may have changed slightly, but from a quick glance, they JA look the same. GS Since Beta/8 things kind of went astray. So from posts to this list I've GS made changes. Yes, but only in syntax. From my quick glance, the structure and logic appear to be unchanged. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/10 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 1.63b10 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/8
Hello Stefan, Historians believe that Wednesday, June 4, 2003 at 21:57 GMT -0400 was when, Stefan Tanurkov [ST] typed the following: The Beta looks very good, just a few questions ST [*] Completely rewritten template subsystem with possibility to add ST macros from plug-ins. What is the format for these plug-ins? Does any unknown macro in a template get routed to the installed plug-ins? ST [*] New syntax for macros: it is now possible to use brackets instead ST of =... (in some cases it is now required - see below). This doesn't always work. For the %Cookie macro, with brackets, the macro assumes the base directory is the directory that the program was opened in. With the old style, the absolute path is used. For example: %Cookie=C:\Temp\Oneliners works as expected. %Cookie(C:\Temp\Oneliners) gives error: Cannot open file C:\Temp\OneLiners) The bracket system also fails on complex %SetPattRegexp macros. It looks like TB gets confused as to what part is the macro and what part is the string if it is legal to have brackets as part of the string. That's not really surprising, but should probably be documented. Note: %Cookie(C:\Temp\Oneliners) also works as expected. ST [+] %VARnnn=... (equal to %_nnn=...) macros to set variables, use ST %VARnnn (or %_nnn) to insert variable value. Variable name can ST contain alphabet characters, digits and _ This is really nice. Please document the fact that the variables can be passed back and forth between parent and child templates. It appears that you've made the scope of the variables global. This is fine, but should be documented. Also, how long is the variable defined? Is it as long as the macro engine is running, or is it defined as long as the message is being edited? In other words, can I run one template which defines a variable, then manually run a second template which accesses that variable? ST [+] %SETHEADER(RFC Name,Value) macro to set a message header to ST the Value, use %ADDHEADER(RFC Name,Value) to add value to a ST header, use %HEADER(RFC Name) to retrieve value of a header ST (%OHEADER(..) retrieves header from the original message) Here it looks like strings should be enclosed in quotes when using the new bracket system. However, this doesn't work for the %QInclude macro. There, the QT name *must* not be enclosed in quotes. For %OHeader, it seems the quotes are optional. So is the necessity of the quotes with the brackets somewhat arbitrary, or is there a method to the madness? How flexible is the quote character in the new bracketed syntax? With the old syntax, we could replace the double quote character with any character. Is that also true of the new syntax? Also, how would one mix strings and macros with the new bracket system? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 1.63b7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/8
Hi Marck, It was Thursday, June 5, 2003 at 08:55 GMT +0100, when Marck Pearlstone [MP] wrote: JA Which one are you using? The one in the repository seems to work as JA before... MP Yes, but I wanted to update it like this ;-) : MP __/ Full Name \ MP | %CAPITAL(%ABofromNAME(%QINCLUDE(Full Name - No AB Entry))) | | '---' Get rid of the quotation marks. That's what is screwing up. If you notice, the initials generated were CfQ, which is the first 3 initials of: Cannot Find Qiuck Template ... It's a bit hard to reproduce, since if you make a test template with just that line, it works as intended. See my reply to Stefan's original message in this thread mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A The system cannot find the path specified (C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\Cannot open file D:\TheBat) \Cookies\One-liners\index.dat) Current beta is 1.63b7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird sorting office goings on
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 11:01 GMT +0700, a beagle known as Thomas Fernandez [TF] barked: TF Seriously though, please check what exactly has changed. the order of TF the filters, or the filter string or what. Another thing to check is: If your filters rely on address book groups, make sure the address book group referenced still exists. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Have you ever imagined a world without hypothetical situations? Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/7
Hello Jonathan, On Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 13:16 GMT -0600, electricians were shocked that Jonathan Angliss [JA] potentially scribbled: JA http://thebat.netdork.net/fmaint.jpg, if you look at the very top, JA there are separated columns, but no headers. It must be XP or your XP skin. On Win98 the headings do exist: http://www.aggarwal.ca/tb/Maintenance%20Center.png -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A There is no such place as the University of Wis-cosine, and if there was, the motto of their mathematics department would not be Secant ye shall find. Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird sorting office goings on
Hello Richard, On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 06:50 GMT +, a witness saw Richard Wakeford [RW] type: Another thing to check is: If your filters rely on address book groups, make sure the address book group referenced still exists. RW I know your reply was to Thomas but was answering my original RW question. Well, I was really responding to you, but I only had an extension to what Thomas already wrote... RW Some of the filters do and the address books do still exist. You probably know this, but to be sure: The address books exist, but do the groups referenced in your filters exist? You should confirm by trying to change the group referenced in the filter. If the group you really want doesn't live in that listing, then you've found your problem. Similarly, check colour groups, etc. The only reason I'm harping on this point is that it has happened to me, and the symptoms sound exactly as you describe. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal I simply wasn't cool enough for them (whomever they were) to offer drugs to me. Drugs were everywhere, that's what the TV said. I could get offered drugs at any time. Yeah, right. -- J. Sullivan Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG again
Hello Peter, It was foretold that on Monday, December 10, 2001 at 18:11 GMT +0100, Peter Meyns [PM] would type: PM How can I make the plugin leave a blank line between my text and the PM signature? I tried blank lines with and without white spaces, all are PM ignored... Is there a way? If you're trying to insert blank lines at the end of a template, put the %- macro on the last line. It will act as a placeholder. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon? -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Help-file command-line update
Hello, While trying to do some scripting on the TBUDL list, I discovered some undocumented features that should be added to the help-file. The command-line parameter /Import can import to the address book as well. The options for the parameter are: (Note: I basically copied these word for word from the /Export command. I haven't tested every contingency listed, but the basics work as outlined.) LDIFif this parameter is specified, an address import will be performed. The INPUT parameter specifies the name of an input file that holds data to be imported in LDIF format. ADDRESSBOOK=value (only for use with the LDIF parameter) value or AB=value or specifies a name, filename or the full path of the BOOK=value address book which is to receive addresses. If no address book is specified, The Bat! will use the default address book. GROUP=value or (only for use with the LDIF parameter) value G=value specifies the handle of the address group which is to receive addresses. If no address book is explicitly specified, The Bat! will search all address books for the first group whose name matches the specified handle. FILE=value or value is a file mask with the pathname for the IN=value or input files. The /IMPORT command can have an INFILE=value or unlimited number of FILE parameters. I=value There are some additional flags for the /Export command which have no corresponding term in the /Import command. Does anyone know if they exist, what their function is, etc? The ones I'm talking about are: UNREAD or N REPLIED or RE UNREPLIED or NR PARKED or PR UNPARKED or UP MAXAGE=value or AGE=value or A=value START=value or S=value END=value or E=value I guess for an import command, the first 5 options would set the appropriate message property, whereas in an export command, they act as filters. Also, now that we have colour groups and message flags, are there corresponding filters from the command-line? flags, does anyone know if there are filters for these criteria too? -- Thanks, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I had a really great tagline to put here, but I can't remember what it was. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Registry vs. INI (was: Re: Enough is enough..)
Hello Alexis, On Wednesday, October 10, 2001 at 22:42 GMT +0200, a creature mimicking Alexis Haeringer [AH] wrote: AH And I wish, that you do not use the registry but ini file, because AH it's more safe if you crash your windows but not mail directory AH You are in the obligation to create key in registry. But for AH Secure Bat, There no possibility to retreive your account if your AH are not saved RIT section in registry (tools backup restore AH just old message) Just an idea, but why not create a little batch file or script to do the next best thing? The batch file would do 2 or 3 things: 1. Restore TB's registry key. (optional) 2. Launch TB 3. On TB's exit, backup TB's registry key. In a batch file, the second two tasks should take about 2 lines of code: start /w c:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe [Options] regedit /e c:\Program Files\The Bat!\regbackup.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT You could customize this to be specific for each Windows account. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/9 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bug in macros
Hi Marck, On Friday, September 14, 2001 at 23:19 GMT +0100, a creature mimicking Marck D Pearlstone [MP] wrote: MP Okay, I got it working like this: MP %Ucfirst='%SETPATTREGEXP=^((?is)[012][0-9]|3[01])?(.*)?(20[0-5][0-9])$%- MP %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%Odate %Subpatt=1 %Subpatt=2 %Subpatt=3' If you're doing that, why not simply use: %UCFIRST=%ODATE Or is something else being stripped that I can't see? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Have you ever imagined a world without hypothetical situations? -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: The Bat! - bug report : Search results not displaying the right number of matches
Hello David, On Monday, September 10, 2001 at 22:44 GMT +0200, a creature mimicking David van Zuijlekom [DVZ] wrote: DVZ Hello The Bat! developers, DVZ I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/8 DVZ Serial Number E822B646 DVZ under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 DVZ and would like to report a bug DVZ The bug description: DVZ Search results not displaying the right number of matches. When DVZ you search for e.g. a particular subject and there are two DVZ messages found that match, TB! says 'Found 7 messages'. See for an DVZ example http://home-2.12move.nl/~sh869472/Shot2.jpg. I can't confirm. Is it possible that the search window has some advanced filtering on your end? Check it under View - Display... in the search window. Alternately, hit Ctrl-= -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: what about a macro %GREETING% that...
Hello Stefano, Historians believe that Tuesday, August 7, 2001 at 18:37 GMT +0200 was when, Stefano Z. [SZ] typed the following: snip SZ ...put the right type of greeting in relation of the current time ? snip SZ It is a good thing also , that al this stuff is put on setting so i can SZ set any string to return related to time and user language. You can do this already with the %IF macro. But in order to help you, can you show us the output of the %TIME and %TIMELONG macros? In the current beta series, we can specify the format manually, but you're using the release version which doesn't have that option. Also, there is currently a bit of a bug with nested %IF macros, so the syntax might change when the bug is fixed. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Have you ever imagined a world without hypothetical situations? -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.54b3 - Folder property options missing
Hi Allie, Historians believe that Fri, 20 Jul 2001 at 18:30 GMT -0500 was when, A Curtis Martin [AM] typed the following: AM Has anyone noticed that in the folder properties, only the general AM tab remains. All the other tabs where you can configure templates, AM sound and identity parameters are missing??!! Confirmed. It looks like they are gone for all folders at the same level as the Inbox, Outbox, Sent and Trash folders. All other folders are normal. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A This page intentionally left unblank. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.54b3 - Folder property options missing
Hi Allie, Historians believe that Fri, 20 Jul 2001 at 19:00 GMT -0500 was when, A Curtis Martin [AM] typed the following: AM I notice now that the nested folder properties are pretty much AM intact as you said. Most of my folders aren't nested and this is why AM it was immediately apparent to me. One of my accounts has *all* folders nested under the Inbox, and another has virtually no nested folders. That's how I noticed the refinement to your statement. ;-) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I had a really great tagline to put here, but I can't remember what it was. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Divide by Zero error in new HTML viewer (was: Re: 1.54 Beta/3 ...)
Hello Stefan,
Historians believe that Sat, 21 Jul 2001 at 00:19 GMT +0300 was when,
Stefan Tanurkov [ST] typed the following:
ST [!] New HTML viewing engine
When I try to view the HTML portion of the attached message, TB
generates a ton of Divide by Zero error dialogue boxes. The only way
to clear them is to kill TB by the Close Program Dialogue in Win98SE.
Note, the attached message displays perfectly well in 1.53l.
Oh, and this is also a test of TB's handling of attached .msg files.
In previous versions, when a .msg file was attached, it would be
encoded, but the message viewer would not decode an encoded
attachment. In other words, you may need to first save the file
before viewing it.
--
Thanks for writing,
Januk Aggarwal
Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A
Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon?
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others were in Spanish. If in doubt, throw it out. Suggestion?
Don't open it until you've CONFIRMED that the sender meant to send
it. Even then, be leery of any PIF / VBS (et al) files. Break the
chain, people. If you inadvertently opened it after this report
was published, well... that'll teach you not to fall behind.
Another computer nasty took center stage today. The
Code Red worm has
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for weeks (possibly months) to come. If you or someone you love is
running IIS on Windows 2000 (or NT) Server, be sure to let them
know that they could be vulnerable. M'kay? That I know of,
Lockergnome's Lyris machine is safe and sound. I just hope that
Craig's List survives the onslaught. Sprocket just posted our need
for an
apartment tonight. Dude, you should have seen him entering the
information. It was hilarious! His poor paws weren't getting along
well with the keyboard. He kept pressing the T and R keys at the
same time. Wo... you had to be there. *wipes tear from his
eye*
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Re: 1.54 Beta/3 - the show goes on :-)
Hello Peter, Historians believe that Sat, 21 Jul 2001 at 02:00 GMT +0200 was when, Peter Palmreuther [PP] typed the following: PP Nice, also the even/odd quote differ in color thing, Unfortunately, it only seems to work when using the HTML message Viewer, not the Fixed Width only viewer. PP I'm not able to access the message with TAB from message list PP (main view + folder view) anymore, so no 'select' + F4 , copy or PP something similar :-( Again, this is the HTML viewer only. In fact, this has been around for a long time. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Bat! - bug report - Menu navigation irregularity
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/3 Serial Number B2825D96 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A and would like to report a bug The bug description: The message menu has two items attached to the letter c Redire_c_t and _C_opy in the Folder view. In the preview pane, Redirec_t_ uses the letter t. Steps to reproduce the bug: Open a folder view and Press Alt-M-C-C Open the preview pane and Press Alt-M-T-C Regards, Januk Aggarwal -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Andrew, Historians believe that Sun, 3 Jun 2001 at 20:17 GMT +0400 was when, Andrew K. Lovetski [AKL] typed the following: TS 3. I'd like to have the keyboard focus in the message pane TS after having selected a folder in the folder pane. AKL This will make the selecting of a folder by keyboard IMPOSSIBLE. Well, you could select the folder by hitting space or enter. Of course, that's not much different than hitting TAB. One bug that is especially annoying lately is the HTML focus bug. The focus is lost when switching to an HTML message with HTML autoview on. This one bugs me a lot. Oh, and I also wish HTML auto-view could be set on a per-folder basis. But that's not an urgent wish. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I had a really great tagline to put here, but I can't remember what it was. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Several problems using latest releases...
Hello Lija, Historians believe that Sun, 27 May 2001 at 00:23 GMT +0200 was when, Lija [L] typed the following: snip L The third and also very strange problem to me is incorrect GMT L timezone. If you take a look at 'Date' part of this message header, L you will see '+0200'. But, I am in GMT+1 zone - Krusevac, Belgrade, L Berlin, Stockholm, Vienna, Amsterdam, Paris... And my timezone is L correctly set in Date/Time Properties of Control Panel. What about Daylight Savings Time, or Summer Time? Doesn't that shift you by one additional hour from GMT? snip -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A This sentence lets you know this page was not a mistake. -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Several problems using latest releases...
Hello Lija, Historians believe that Sun, 27 May 2001 at 05:18 GMT +0200 was when, Lija [L] typed the following: L A *big* snip, actually. ;) Well, I can't comment on the rest, so... ;-) JA What about Daylight Savings Time, or Summer Time? Doesn't that shift JA you by one additional hour from GMT? L Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes in Date/Time Properties L is checked since I installed the OS, and there is no other OS on my system, only L WinNT4. Yes, but GMT doesn't include shifts for Summer Time. So since you went on Summer Time as of the last Sunday in March, you were +0200 from GMT. See http://www.mylocaltime.com/Timebase/Timezones/Europe/Paris/ -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I should probably engage that largish, grey organ lurking inside of my skull a bit more often. I think it's called a brain. -- Simon -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account/AB Template Differences
Hello Nick, Historians believe that Mon, 14 May 2001 at 10:55 GMT -0700 was when, Nick Andriash [NA] typed the following: snip NA I cannot do that with an Account Level Template, as the extra blank line I NA try to include will have disappeared the very next time I check the NA Account Level Template. Any ideas on why the two behave differently? I don't want to guess about the why, but you can always put the extra blank line, then on the next line use just the %- macro. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Have you ever imagined a world without hypothetical situations? -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - bug report - Old(?) Viewer Bug revisited
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.49c Serial Number B2825D96 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A and would like to report a bug The bug description: Last two letters are cut-off when viewing messages that don't terminate correctly. The MIME-forwarding option creates such malformed files from TB generated messages. See the sample message below. Steps to reproduce the bug: Mime-forward a couple of messages created in TB to yourself. View the messages in the Mime viewer. Notice the last two letters are missing. Here is a sample message generated by MIME forwarding some messages from my Sent folder. Begin Problem Message Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:06:50 -0800 From: Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49c) Educational Reply-To: Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: UBC - Chemistry Physics Undergraduate X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Recoton Website Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--85161F31A85C698" You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org 85161F31A85C698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Test Message -- Enjoy, Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 85161F31A85C698 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="1.msg" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="1.msg" Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:34:40 -0800 From: Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Educational Reply-To: Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: UBC - Chemistry Physics Undergraduate X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "snip" snip Subject: Recoton Website Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit snip body, Januk 85161F31A85C698 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="2.msg" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="2.msg" Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:22:18 -0800 From: Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Educational Reply-To: Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: UBC - Chemistry Physics Undergraduate X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)" snip Subject: Re: Editing In-reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit snip body Still learning new tricks I guess. :) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----85161F31A85C698-- End Problem Message Regards, Januk Aggarwal -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Multiple lists
Hello Jason, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 at 21:53:12 GMT -0500 (which was 6:53 PM where I live) witnesses say Jason Gottschalk typed: Can I send to multiple lists by using a syntax like this? BCC: New list; Used list; Service list Yup, try it. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB opens thousands of messages
Hello Thomas, On 1/4/2001 at 8:59 AM witnesses say Thomas Fernandez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: How about this: IF NumberOfSelectedMessages = 1 THEN OpenViewFolder ( AllMessages ) ELSE OpenViewFolder ( SelectedMessages ) ENDIF Cool, Fortran? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB opens thousands of messages
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 at 19:13:01 GMT -0800 (which was 7:13 PM where I live) witnesses say Januk Aggarwal typed: snip Cool, Fortran? Woops, that was meant to be off list. Sorry. Januk Aggarwal -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: feature request - find source message
Hello Graham, On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 at 13:55:29 GMT + (which was 5:55 AM where I live) witnesses say Graham Foster typed: A different way of working which I do helps in this respect:- a) Create the last filter in the Outgoing mail which moves anything going from the Sent folder back to the INBOX folder How about changing this to move it to the Trash and use a template to add yourself as a BCC recipient. see below for more b) Change my filters which move incoming messages based on sender, so move them based on kludges. That way they get moved into the same specific folder if messages are sent or received to a particular person With the change above, both your replies and incoming mail would get moved. You can also play with the "Local Delivery" option to reduce the load on your mail server. I've found the "Local Delivery" option is great for basic filters, but you can have problems with certain filter actions (Run program, auto-reply). c) Occasional manual re filtering of the Inbox ensures that messages are correctly moved to their respective folders (it would be nice to automate this) This step can be largely eliminated. Now when you do conversation threading, as your sent messages are in the same folder as your received messages..the threads all hang together nicely.. and you tend not to use cntrl backspace at all! I use this type of technique as well. But what I usually do is just create a copy of the incoming filter and drag it to the outgoing filter set. The BCC method is probably better when simplifying filtering between multiple accounts. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report / mass mailing problem - 1.48e please
Hello Marek, On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 at 18:55:24 GMT +0100 (which was 9:55 AM where I live) witnesses say Marek Mikus typed: Steps to reproduce the bug: - Select Contacts (or group) in Address Book - Select "File | Mass Mailing | template" menu item - Select "Open in Editor" checkbox and hit OK. - Cancel all Editor windows by Esc key - Watch Outbox folder Confirmed. Also get the same behaviour when cancelling with the little X box in the top right corner. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48d under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Release 148 - Print Template Bug
Hello Richard, On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 at 15:11:10 GMT -0500 (which was 12:11 PM where I live) witnesses say Richard M. Newman typed: snip Not sure how to "post" my customized (if it matters). Just copy (CTRL-C) and paste (CTRL-V) it into the editor. For example, here is my Print template. Mine only prints the To: line if an address exists in the To line. Same thing for the CC and BCC lines. Oh, and I can't reproduce the bug you mentioned. Very strange. ---Begin Template--- -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From: %FromName %FromAddr Date: %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn %SETPATTREGEXP="(?is).*\@.*"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=" To: %TOLIST"%SUBPATT="0" %SETPATTREGEXP="(?is).*\@.*"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=" Cc: %CCLIST"%SUBPATT="0" %SETPATTREGEXP="(?is).*\@.*"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=" Bcc: %BCCLIST"%SUBPATT="0" Subject: %Subj Folder: %AccountName\%FolderName -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- %text -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --- End Template--- -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48d under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bugs or not?
Hello Peter, On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 at 01:40:27 GMT -0500 (which was 10:40 PM where I live) witnesses say Peter Gannushkin typed: 6. This is just a curious bug, but... Sometimes red waved underline is different from another one. Occasionally I misspelled the word "immediately". I spelled it like "imediately" and "imediatelly". The underline is not the same for these two cases. I wonder why. There are two types of underlines, triangular waves and square waves. When you get the square waves, TB knows the right answer (you supplied it in the auto-correct dictionary.) A quick double right click on those words corrects them immediately. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/12 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ORG macro, (was Re: The Bat! - suggestions)
Hello Quin, On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 at 11:34:54 GMT -0700 (which was 10:34 AM where I live) witnesses say Quin Selman typed: I was mailing the messages to myself at another destination address. But I get the same results in the outbox, prior to actual sending, as I do after sending. Right, the bug is that a NULL organisation gets replaced with the account default when the message hits the outbox. Enable the Organisation field in the message editor and see what happens when you apply the %ORG="" macro. The organisation does get cleared. Here's something else I found: I removed the default organization from Account Preferences. Then %ORG="New Organization" will insert whatever you want from the template. And %ORG="New Organization"%ORG="" will give no organization in the message. That makes sense given the above. Likewise, if there is a default organization in Account Preferences, the macros %ORG="New Organization"%ORG="" will yield the default. Right, you're seeing the same behaviour. Not sure just what to make of all that. What are we saying is the "correct" behavior? None of the above. The macro works right, the account isn't accepting what you're telling it. There is a bug, it is just slightly different than what you're thinking. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/12 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Beta/10
Hello Maxim, On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 at 15:18:31 GMT +0200 (which was 5:18 AM where I live) witnesses say Maxim Masiutin typed: [*] More convenient way of setting encryption defaults from Message Editor. Does this include the new PGP menu item in the Tools menu? If so, would you please consider having this item disappear when PGP is disabled in the selected account's properties? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/11 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter question
Hello Chris, On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 at 00:17:53 GMT + (which was 4:17 PM where I live) witnesses say Chris Wilson typed: Write an outgoing filter to move messages to Sent (i.e. not move) and, as an action, copy the message to the required folder. Thanks Marck, a typo there I think, you meant "write an outgoing filter to COPY messages to sent", right? Or do you mean move... ? The filter will have your source folder as your outbox (That's where the message starts out.) Put the destination folder as the SENT folder (If you put outbox your recipient will get *lots* of copies). Under actions use the COPY function to put a copy in some other folder. You can interchange Sent and the other folder, it doesn't really matter. Just pick a convention and stick to it so that debugging becomes easier. I have a lot of trouble with filters, they often spring a few surprises on me :-) Please just confirm this if you get a chance! I highly recommend the FAQ tutorial on filters. The Kill filter part is a bit out of date, but the rest is still applicable. Check it out at: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com BTW what is the Hash: SHA1 thing for, just curious, is it to do with PGP, something I have never really played with? Yep. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII 550MHz with 192 MB RAM -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mail vanished and other strange happenings
Hello Susanne, On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 at 15:04:10 GMT -0800 (which was 3:04 PM where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed: Thanks for the hint, though. If you don't compress your folders very often, check under Folder - Browse deleted items. Check both your Trash and the other folder. See if that works. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII 550MHz with 192 MB RAM -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default value for %AB macros (was: AB Macro usage examples)
Hello Peter, On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 at 20:00:42 GMT +0100 (which was 11:00 AM where I live) witnesses say Peter Hampf typed: Hello, JA %TO=""%TO='"%ABofromNAME" %ABofromEMAIL' /.../ JA Hi %ABofromNAMEPREFIX%ABofromLASTNAME afaics the %AB macros are returning empty strings, if there is no addressbook entry defined. Right? That's correct. I think this is good behaviour in most cases. However, you point out: It would be useful to have a defined default for this case, for example: Hi %ABofromFIRSTNAME[%OFROMFNAME]%ABofromLASTNAME[%OFROMLNAME] The part in the brackets would only be expanded, if the part left of the brackets returns an empty string... . That would be nice. The way you've suggested implies that the part in brackets should be user definable, right? If so, I agree. There are times when a null string makes more sense than anything else (eg. Name Prefix or Memos, etc). But the option would be very useful. As it is right now, the %AB macros are only really useful in Address Book templates, with any generality. Your suggestion would make these macros much more general, and useful in all the multitude of other templates. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Selection mechanism in new Mail Dispatcher Question (was: Re: 1.48 Beta/4)
Hello Maxim, On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 at 23:29:30 GMT +0200 (which was 1:29 PM where I live) witnesses say Maxim Masiutin typed: Hello TBBETA! [*] Improved Mail Dispatcher - it is now possible to select multiple messages and sort by clicking the column header. At last :-) A very fine addition indeed. What is the new quick way to toggle a flag for all messages? I see the menu item, but is there some keyboard/mouse combo that will allow us to click on the column headers any more? I recommend enabling the right click to do this old task. Oh, and I really like one additional feature that's been incorporated. If you sort on any column, select the first message and hold the shift key while resorting on that column, you can select all messages very quickly. Nice touch. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: CRC errors
Hello Quin, On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 at 20:14:52 GMT -0700 (which was 7:14 PM where I live) witnesses say Quin Selman typed: I've used PowerArchiver to extract the RAR files of the last two betas (1.48b3 and b4). In both cases, I initially got a messages saying the files had CRC errors in them. I couldn't extract them except after several attempts. What are CRC errors, why are they there, and what should be done? Thanks. Did you download them with Netscape? If you did, try downloading them with a different browser (eg, Internet Explorer, Opera, etc) or a dedicated FTP program. For some reason Netscape has a habit of corrupting certain downloads. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.47 Halloween Edition Serial Number B2825D96 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A and would like to report a bug The bug description: Include macro does not work with other macros in the argument field Steps to reproduce the bug: I want to create a way of making cookies with macros in them. To do this, I created a directory called cookies on my D: drive. 1. In D:\cookies create templates in text files, one template per file. Call them cookie001.txt, cookie002.txt, etc. 2. Create a file called index.txt It should hold the full path and file name for each template. eg It should look like: ---begin index.txt--- d:\cookies\cookie001.txt d:\cookies\cookie002.txt ... ---end index.txt--- 3. In TB create a Template (any template) with the line %INCLUDE="%COOKIE=""D:\cookies\index.txt""" 4. Invoke this template somehow. The %Cookie macro is not evaluated thus causing the %Include to fail. Now do a similar thing with quick templates. 1. Create the cookies in QT's and give them handles 2. Put the list of QT cookie handles in a file, one per line. Say the full path name is D:\QTCookies\index.txt 3. Put the line %QINCLUDE="%Cookie=""d:\QTCookies\index.txt""" in any template. 4. Invoke this template 5. Notice that the QT templates are included randomly as desired. Regards, Januk Aggarwal -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Halloween Edition: new TBMapi.dll?
Hello Mark, On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 at 08:05:26 GMT +0100 (which was 12:05 AM where I live) witnesses say Mark Aston typed: Not working with M$ Word 2000 here, Word tries to Send Mail and has to be shut down with the Task Manager. Try unchecking "This account is default for mailto: links" Then when you use Word2000 to send a message, click cancel when the account chooser dialogue comes up. It works in that case. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: unsubscribe
Hello Giamma, On Friday, October 13, 2000 at 13:48:49 GMT +0200 (which was 4:48 AM where I live) witnesses say Giamma typed: how about read what is written at the end of every message? Chances are the person had folder templates defined with %To="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" So if this person clicked the mailto link below, then the list would get a copy too. But speaking of that, perhaps a simple filter could be created to remove messages being sent to both the list and the unsub address? Create a filter with the following: String: Location Presence TB(UDL|BETA)[EMAIL PROTECTED]SenderYes TB(UDL|BETA)@thebat.dutaint.com Recipient Yes unsubs?c?r?i?b?e?Subject Yes Enable Regular Expressions and have it moved to the trash. The '?' characters are there so that typos would be caught. Can anyone think of a better way to catch typos? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: suggestion and bug
Hello Marck, On Friday, October 13, 2000 at 18:33:20 GMT +0100 (which was 10:33 AM where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed: D - Is there a possibilities to change the order of folders (and D accounts) in the left tree ? (actually, they appear in the creation D order) Use Alt-Drag and drop to move folders. Use Ctrl-Drag to drop a folder /into/ another. Um, slight correction, Ctrl-drag does nothing, Ctrl-Alt-drag moves a folder into another folder. D - When you receive a mail with a lot of "to:" people, it's not so D easy to see the entire list. (you cab display the header of course) You can display the header (of course) ;-). Um, Marck, if you display the header using View-Message Header, and your message has lots of recipients, then you don't see all of them. TB's scrolling of this field is also quite odd. This is one aspect that is rather annoying in TB. Personally, only Netscape comes close to dealing with this situation in a good way, but even that leaves something to be desired. In Netscape, a list is displayed in the main message viewer with essentially one address per line. Not all the addresses are shown by default but there is a little arrow that will show the rest. This field is treated like normal text, so highlighting and copying are easy. TB has the Address Auto-view option, but here the drop down list width is much too small to see an overview of everyone who received the message. Also all recipient fields (To, Cc, Bcc) are merged with the sender fields (From:) into one list. (Obviously Bcc is only applicable for messages you've created and sent). I think the best solution would be for the Address Auto-view dialogue to include a tab with a textbox containing the members of the list one per line. Also there should be some way to indicate who in in the sender field, To field and Cc field. Perhaps colours or an icon could do this job. Alternately, the dialogue box could have 4 extra tabs, one for each field. It would also be nice if this system ported to the message editor window as well. In the message editor, Netscape Messenger 4.5 has best system. If you've never seen how Netscape does this part, let me know and I'll produce a screen capture. It is a very nice solution. Don't get me wrong, when choosing addresses from the address book (the little rolodex icon on the address line in the message editor), TB has a very nice interface. What needs to be added is a way to add an address in this dialogue box that does not exist in your address book. Perhaps another possible solution would be to create a temporary address book with the various recipients and senders as entries. I'm not entirely sure how this would work, but it is another solution the developers might consider. However the developers choose to do this, I would really appreciate a better visualization system to see addresses in the messages. TB has excellent tools available, so I'm sure it won't require much extra code to make reading and manipulating mail just a little easier. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: suggestion and bug
Hello Marck, On Friday, October 13, 2000 at 01:37:17 GMT +0100 (which was 5:37 PM where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed: By view the kludges you can clearly see all recipients. It's not pretty, but it's there. I suppose, but there is so much other junk in there. It can be a pain to find the info. JA I think the best solution would be for the Address Auto-view JA dialogue to include a tab with a textbox containing the members of JA the list one per line. Also there should be some way to indicate JA who in in the sender field, To field and Cc field. Perhaps JA colours or an icon could do this job. Alternately, the dialogue JA box could have 4 extra tabs, one for each field. Either of these implementations would be good. The only additional request I'd like to append is to make the dialogue resizeable. There is no way to estimate what will be convenient for even a majority of users. But as long as the dialogue box is of user defined size and has sticky settings, the RIT guys don't have to worry about making that decision. JA It would also be nice if this system ported to the message editor JA window as well. In the message editor, Netscape Messenger 4.5 has JA best system. If you've never seen how Netscape does this part, JA let me know and I'll produce a screen capture. I haven't. Send it to me off-list. I posted it on TBOT in the files section: http://www.egroups.com/files/tbot/Netscape+Messenger+Capture.PNG To be correct, this is for version 4.7. It doesn't matter what the exact version is though, see the picture for key details. JA Perhaps another possible solution would be to create a temporary JA address book with the various recipients and senders as entries. JA I'm not entirely sure how this would work, but it is another JA solution the developers might consider. Sounds a bit of an overkill to me g. Ok, I'll grant you that one. :) I was just offering yet another idea. I really don't know how much code and/or work would be required for each of these ideas. By offering options to the developers, hopefully they can synthesize an even better solution. Case and point: Colour groups. Let's hope that these ideas and thoughts make an impact on the new work being done towards V2. I don't think I'd like to see V2 slowed down to have modified functionality of this magnitude in V1. Sure that's reasonable. V1, V2, it's all the same to me. TB in it's current form is quite different from the TB I registered. A lot has been added, and a lot has been fixed. I'm not going to insinuate that my suggestion has any greater priority than other suggestions. I know they've been proving some of the new V2 technology in the latest V1 upgrades but it seems to me that these new technologies have all been brand new features rather than enhancement to existing facilities. S/MIME, MAPI, new mail-base structures, etc. I agree. I registered with v1.35 or 1.36 (I don't remember). The changes between that version and the current version would be worthy of a V2 status if it were from any other company. Just take a look at the length of the version 1.42 update list and all the features since then. It is incredible. I'm happy that I'm not the one doing the coding. :) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bug in %signcomplete macro
Hello Ming-Li, On Monday, October 09, 2000 at 09:10:18 GMT -0700 (which was 9:10 AM where I live) witnesses say Ming-Li typed: It appears that any "setting-oriented" macros (in contrast to macros that input text) like %Account, %From, and %signcomplete, ...etc. used in the default new message template are applied, unless they are specifically overwritten by address-book or folder templates. Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to overwrite the %signcomplete macro (is there?). I wonder if the %clear macro would help here? I don't have any of this security stuff installed to test it, but it might be worth a shot. I wouldn't expect that it would work, but given some of the strange macro behaviour being described, who knows? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: SOT: Browsers (was: Re: tb147b5)
Hello István, On Thursday, September 21, 2000 at 09:03:25 GMT +0200 (which was 12:03 AM where I live) witnesses say István Szendrõ typed: If you want to know how secure IE is, read this: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2751843.html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif.ni That article is about privacy, not security. If you want to discuss it some more, let's take this to TBOT. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: CJK (again)
Hello Assad, On Monday, August 28, 2000 at 23:17:24 GMT +0400 (which was 12:17 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hello Thomas, On 28 August 2000, you wrote and made these points on the subject of "CJK (again)": Is it possible to view messages in other languages besides Latin characters with TB! even though I am using Win98 English version? Sure. I had a few messages in Hindi. It was great until I realised I can't read Hindi. Actually, I occasionally receive some emails in Arabic and I am never able to read them :( Do you have any Arabic fonts installed? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lift bar
Hello A, On Friday, August 18, 2000 at 22:57:13 GMT -0500 (which was 8:57 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:33:45 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA 2. Something very similar. Create a new message, (or a reply, it JA doesn't matter) type a couple of lines so it all fits into one JA window. Now use the arrow keys, page up/down keys or scroll wheel JA mouse to scroll down (or horizontally). The scroll bars do not JA appear. For me the scroll-bars appear as soon as I start typing after moving the cursor down or sideways. That's the key, as soon as you start typing. I think TB should calculate the scroll bars based on cursor position (much like spreadsheet programs do). This shouldn't be hard since TB knows and displays the cursor position anyway. JA 3. If %Cursor is *after* %Quotes in your reply template, scroll bars JA will not appear. I have tried this and the scroll-bars appear. :-/ The plot thickens. Is this an OS specific problem? I'm using Win2k. Could be a Win98 issue. To tell the truth, I haven't noticed this either. I have my reply template in a quick template and use the %qinclude macro. I wonder if it is different if one uses the folder level or account level templates? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lift bar
Er, hit the send button too quick... For me the scroll-bars appear as soon as I start typing after moving the cursor down or sideways. That's the key, as soon as you start typing. I think TB should calculate the scroll bars based on cursor position (much like spreadsheet programs do). This shouldn't be hard since TB knows and displays the cursor position anyway. Let me clarify. I think TB should calculate scroll bars based on cursor position in addition to the existence of text. Right now all this message fits on one screen for me. If I hit page down, it is not immediately obvious that I still have text higher up. I just did a test. I hit page down, no scroll bars. I typed one character, and the scroll bars appeared. I then deleted that character (backspace), scroll bars were still there. I then hit page up, and the scroll bars still indicated that there was something further down. I think what is happening is that TB doesn't define the white area until you type something, although you can navigate to any point. So when you type something, any preceding white space is then defined. But TB doesn't strip it again until the message is sent. It appears that scroll bars are calculated on the defined space in a message. But this causes problems when the defined area fits completely into the window, and the scroll bars disappear. This complaint for the scroll bar behaviour is simply to reduce ambiguity. With this free caret interface, the need to use the Home and End keys is much more prevalent. On a keyboard like mine, that means the Page Up/Down keys are often hit simply due to slight overreach, (aka typist error). Let me tell you, it is a bit unnerving to hit what you think is the End key, and find that all your text magically disappears. It takes a while to realize that it still exists, especially the first few times it happens. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mailto forms from Netscape
Hello Javier, On Friday, July 28, 2000 at 04:50:08 GMT +0200 (which was 7:50 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: I have no problems getting the mailto links to call up The Bat! from IExplorer, or even Opera, i.e., I think The Bat! is correctly configured as my default mailer, and it should be used for the mailto URLs; however, I have been unable to get this to work with Netscape, it always uses the Messenger. Do you know if there is any way to avoid this (as I'm currently copying pasting the addresses in The Bat!)? Leif Gregory maintains this information on his FAQ site. A direct link: See http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml#Mailto:%20(browser) Or if that link doesn't work, go to http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml and select Mailto For more FAQ fun, http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.45 S/MIME under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Delete behaviour (Was: Re: The Bat! 1.45 Beta/5 is now available)
Hello Ipswitch, On Saturday, July 01, 2000 at 13:43:35 GMT -0400 (which was 10:43 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: It's kind of weird in that, when I delete a message from my Inbox, TheBat then zooms up to the top of the list. If I'm working halfway down the list, the program shouldn't lose my place. Are you sure it happens when deleting only a single message? This is a known behaviour when deleting a thread or multiple messages at once. Also, where are you deleting from? Are you deleting from the message list in the main Bat window or are you deleting from the message window (the window you get when you double click on a message)? Maybe I just didn't notice this behavior before... It existed in all previous versions that I've used as I mentioned above. I have sort by received time, display all messages, and thread by references enabled. Same as me. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Weird GIF display???
Hello MaXx, On Wednesday, June 21, 2000 at 01:30:02 GMT -0700 (which was 1:30 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Snip I can not confirm. If I use the tabs in the preview pane or in the opened message, the file is not really viewable, but it as Allie described. With 'Options-Use External Viewer' deselected, double clicking on the attachment gives me a pop up TB window with the image displayed correctly. With 'Options-Use External Viewer' selected, double clicking on the attachment launches my default image viewer, IrfanView. I noticed that I wrote the previous message from v1.44, but the behavior is the same in 1.45 Beta/1 here. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I have an imaginary friend who refuses to play with me. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Spell checker query
Hello Chris, On Wednesday, May 31, 2000 at 20:14:36 GMT +0100 (which was 12:14 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Can I alter the English language spell checker to automatically coorect lower case i to upper case I ? It is a bad habit I have not pressing the shift key hard enough to always capitalize the letter i, and an auto correct of the single letter would be neat. Un/fortunately no. TB's editor has an option for autocorrect, but what that does is underline the misspelt word with a square wave instead of the triangular wave. Then you can just double right click on the word to fix it. So it doesn't do what you suggested exactly, but it is kind of convenient. For example, I have some common contractions in my autocorrect list. Usually, I like to expand 'btw' into 'by the way' but not always (like right now). So I don't have to fight with the editor to get things to be the way I intend. This is a mixed blessing, so it's hard to have strong feelings on this one. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.44 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A How many ethnics does it take to change a lightbulb? One. And you think ethnics are stupid? -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bug: Adressbook selecting with CTRL
Hello Thomas, On Thursday, June 01, 2000 at 11:07:26 GMT +0200 (which was 2:07 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hello TBBETA, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.44 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 4 and would like to report a bug The bug description: While sorting my addressbook I stumbled over this little Bug: If you are selecting Addresses using the CTRL key you cannot de-select the last entry you selected you first have to select or de-select another entry to to this! Steps to reproduce the bug: 1) go to addressbook 2) select some addresses using CTRL key 3) try to de-select the last address you selected Confirmed. Did you notice that when you select an address you get the line highlighted, but then you get a second "selection highlighting" that highlights just one column of that line? I can't describe it any better than that, since I've never seen anything like it before, except maybe in a spreadsheet program. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.44 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I have an imaginary friend who refuses to play with me. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scroll bar disappearing CONFIRMED.
Hello Marck, On Saturday, May 27, 2000 at 19:07:40 GMT +0100 (which was 11:07 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Nope. Perhaps my screen resolution (1024*768) is too small for that to happen. It worked fine here. The scrollbar remained and looked as it should have done. That's the resolution I use, and the bug manifested itself on my system too. The key was taking out my signature. With the sig in, no bug. Hit reply, delete the sig then follow Maxx's instructions, the bug is there. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.44 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A The Invisible Man will not be seen tonight. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message list columns, set for all folders?
Hello Roel, On Wednesday, May 03, 2000 at 16:15:34 GMT +0200 (which was 7:15 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: you've understood it correctly :-) however, after you've enabled this setting everywhere, you can change them all at once :-) The 'problem' here is that you need to set this in the very beginning (when most people aren't aware of the setting...) On that note, is it just me, or is it odd that TB does *not* use the "default" column setting by, *cough* default? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/20 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A I've determined the momentum of my physics assignment so precisely that it can be anywhere in the universe right now. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another BIG wish!
Hello Andreas, On Saturday, April 22, 2000 at 11:11:57 GMT +0200 (which was 2:11 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hi, I am fairly new to The Bat so I don't know if maybe this is already possible as I might not have yet discovered it: When I am reading a message, I would like to have the possibility to switch to the next UNREAD message by just pressing a key. Like typing "N" in Netscape Messenger. With the message list pane in focus hit CTRL-] The limitation with that combination is that it is only valid within the particular folder. So when there are no new messages in the current folder, that keystroke won't do anything. Also, if you have the preview pane in focus, CTRL-] does nothing. I'm not sure why the focus matters for this particular shortcut, but it does. A key macro like that would be a good idea! This key already exists. But the long standing wish is that its functionality be increased. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/19 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another BIG wish!
Hello Andreas, With the message list pane in focus hit CTRL-] The limitation with that combination is that it is only valid within the particular folder. So when there are no new messages in the current folder, that keystroke won't do anything. Also, if you have the preview pane in focus, CTRL-] does nothing. I'm not sure why the focus matters for this particular shortcut, but it does. I just realized that you actually open the messages to view them. In that case CTRL-] will work from in the message body. It is when you are using the preview pane that it doesn't work from in the message body. I don't know why there is this discrepancy. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/19 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
New Feature?
Hello, I just noticed that at the bottom of the editor, the account I'm using to compose the message is listed. It is right next to the Character Set being used. If I right click on it I can change the account immediately. Is this a new feature for the 1.42 Betas, or have I had my eyes sewn shut until now? In either case, it is a very convenient feature. -- Thanks, Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/17 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Tearline problem -- enter when using PGP maybe?
Hello phil,
On Thursday, April 13, 2000 at 17:08:46 GMT -0700 (which was 5:08 PM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
I hope there will be more examples posted one day in the future. If I
can change one letter in an example and See results that helps me
learn the language. If it helps me, I know it's helping someone else
out there.
If you want some more examples, go to the TBUDL archives and look at
the thread from mid December,
Subject: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.
There are lots of examples and tweaks in that thread. It is too long
to even begin to repost. There are several versions of the macro,
but here is the one I have, courtesy of Marck.
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"
On %ODATE at %SUBPATT="3" GMT%SUBPATT="4" (which was %OTIME
where I live) %OFROMADDR typed:
Like I said, check out that thread and you'll find a whole bunch of
info on the inner workings of regular expressions.
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Re: Fixing Thread References
Hello Stefan, Tuesday, April 11, 2000, 3:41:11 AM, you wrote: JA In the features list of Beta 10, Stefan had mentioned, JA [*] Broken message threads can be repaired by using the References JA field JA Does anyone know how to do this? Well, this actually means that when some messages mentioned in the REFERENCES header absent, the thread still will be displayed as one branch... Ok, I understand. Thanks. -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/16 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Fixing Thread References
Hello, I remember Stefan had added the ability to fix broken threads, but I can't seem to figure out how. Could someone please enlighten this heathen? Thanks. -- Thanks, Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/12 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editor Preferences ?
Hello Roel, Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 6:41:08 AM, you wrote: AM A .ini file which resides in the application directory would be AM nice. :) registry has the advantage of being user-dependant: even roaming profiles are possible... you could do that with an ini, but that would require a login of some kind... now, you've got your login along with your windows-login... Could it be made so that there is only one registry key which just says which part of the *.ini file to use for the current user? Another option would be to have a *.reg file in the TB directory where all the most recent keys are stored. If TB could update that and then register that file, the current structure could be maintained, but ease backups a little. -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Multi-Sig
Hello Giamma, Monday, January 03, 2000, 1:24:33 PM, you wrote: Ciao Douglas, in data lunedì, 3 gennaio 2000, alle 21:10, hai scritto: DS or is there a way to have multiple sigs now that are selectable at DS send time of messages? I think it`s possible using quicktemplates with regexp (if you use standard characters like `-- ` at the begninning of the sig) But don`t ask to me to write the regexp... I`m a newbie of perl/like expressions (this will be a great example to how to use regexp...) Depending on your needs, you don't have to worry about regular expressions at all. Just make your signatures in different quick templates and give them easy to remember handles (eg personal, business or whatever) Then when you're composing your message, just type in the quick template's handle followed by ctrl-spacebar. That way you can have as many signatures as you like. -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
