from:"Gordon"

Re: Sirius app update improvements and observations

2023-12-28 Thread Gordon

Actually you can use the notifications area and you'll find your go back,
pause and fast-forward buttons. The only thing we don't have is the two
finger double tap to start and stop.

On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 5:34 AM Wayne Merritt  wrote:

> Greetings. After doing more playing with the app, I am getting used to it
> and am liking the new design. For instance, if you double tap the now
> playing info at the top, the now playing screen will open up and seems to
> be a lot less cluttered than the way it was before. Plus, all buttons and
> items are labeled. I was very pleased to find that 1 swipe after the play
> button was the Go Live button. On the older version, Go Live was 3 or 4
> flicks right, which I found a little annoying. It wasn’t a huge issue but I
> still found it inconvenient that Go Live was several swipes away from other
> useful content. I haven’t explored everything I’m sure, and there are
> definitely things that could be better. For instance, I miss my nice list
> of favorites from the old app. Although, the new design has removed buttons
> after the channel name. I also miss the rewind and fast forward buttons.
> Those made skipping songs, particularly on the weekly countdown shows I
> enjoy, very convenient. It takes some getting used to, and there are still
> more things to work on, but I’m warming up to the new app’s design.
>
> Happy holidays to all,
> Wayne
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> On Dec 22, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> Your method seems to be the only way to really narrow it down to the NFL
> teams, but it would be much better if they put them in alphabetical order.
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to
> get it.”
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>
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I find the easiest way to find the list of NFL team channels is still the
> way I posted last week. I go into the search tab and type NFL in the search
> field. The team channels are the first thing to come up.
>
>
>
> I also noticed that in the discovery tab, you can flick down by heading to
> get to an around the NFL section to get to other NFL related content, but
> it doesn’t seem to include the team channels. At the top I see several live
> and upcoming sections for the NBA, college football and so on. I wonder if
> a live and upcoming MFL section will pop up tomorrow when we have NFL games.
>
>
>
> Note that across the top you’ll see what you last played, followed by
> connect to device, play and settings. Below that you’ll see the buttons for
> you, music, talk and podcasts, sports and so on. If you don’t see this row
> of buttons then you may need to tap on the go back button at the  top of
> the page several times to get back to this page.
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Ron Canazzi
> *Sent:* Friday, December 22, 2023 4:42 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sirius app update improvements and observations
>
>
>
> Hi Wayne,
>
> I downloaded the update today and I am still confused. I am having a great
> difficulty getting to the NFL play by play area. I keep getting the last
> station played player open without playing and I cannot get rid of it, even
> if I close the app and restart it.
>
> On 12/22/2023 5:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>
> Greetings. For the Sirius/XM app users on list, there was an update today
> which has some accessibility enhancements. After installing the update, I
> found headings showed up in different places within the app, such as on the
> Discover tab when navigating among sections of the screen. I also found
> headings on screens for channels I would like to listen to. Granted, I
> haven’t explored all parts of the app, and it will take some experimenting
> but this was a welcome surprise. Especially when so many people, including
> me, were upset with the recent major update which changed a lot of things
> and brought many unlabeled buttons. Sirius is my main source for NFL games,
> and I like their weekly countdown shows on the 80’s and 90’s channels. I
> wish they gave us more of a traditional means of organizing favorites with
> the edit/done buttons and being able to reorder favorites with rodor
> actions. Oh well. Hopefully the app will continue to improve. There are a
> lot of things I really like about the main Sirius/XM app which one does not
> get from the more simplified StarPlayerX app.
>
>
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Wayne
>
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Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

2023-12-14 Thread Gordon

I had to use the searched tab and do a search for the word all and then I
found the complete channel list. The thing that annoys me, the double tap
does not work to stop playback. So you either have to close it in the app
switcher, or search for the place/pause button to stop it. I love the way
it used to be because you could just zip to the channels real quickly if
you wanted to similar to changing the dial on a radio.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:46 PM Debbie Downey 
wrote:

> HI folks,
>
>
>
> I’ve got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The
> app seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently
> updated apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Debbie
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Re: voice changed over night

2023-05-09 Thread Gordon

Things can get crazy the week leading up to a new version of IOS for 
some reason. I've experienced this a lot over the past few years. Some 
times voices change, other times it affects dictation or the way VO 
pronounces certain words. So just something you'll have to get used to I 
guess.


On 5/9/2023 8:01 AM, Lyne wrote:

Welcom to the club! I :ad that problem too for French voices...
This week,  was an other problem: Siri some time change voice ...

Lyne


Le 9 mai 2023 à 08:49, Dan  a écrit :



Hi all,


I am running IOS 16.4.1A.  I have an Iphone SE 2020. I was using the 
Siri voices for VO speech.  However, when my alarm went off this 
morning and I got ,up I found that the voice had changed to Samantha 
non-enhanced.  I was very confused at this since I hadn't changed 
anything to do with my speech.  I went into Accessibility settings to 
change the voice back to Siri and found that Siri voices are no 
longer an option.  they do not even show up in the list of voices.  I 
had to choose another voice and I do not like very many of the 
choices at all.



Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix for this?  Can I get the 
Siri voices back?



Thanks for any help.



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Re: Smart Punctuation for Texting

2023-03-11 Thread Gordon

I don't know if it's improved over the past couple of months, but it 
wasn't very effective back when I used it. It really made things look 
strange. If you want to give it a try, go to settings, general and 
keyboards. You'll find all that stuff if you keep flicking where it says 
dictation. If it doesn't work the way you want it to, be sure to turn it 
back off.


On 3/11/2023 9:06 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,
I'm running iOS16.3.1 on an SE2020. Where do I turn on, if it's 
possible, automatic punctuation so when I send a text message I don't 
have to tell Siri , period, question mark or new line when dictating a 
text message?  Thanks mooy moocho.


Take care.  Mike. Go Dodgers.
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Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

2022-12-28 Thread Gordon

Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 
percent all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this 
from happening. Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug 
your phone in and you wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent 
around 12:30. Then it will stop until around 4:45 or so where it will 
resume charging in order to be at 100 by the time you wake up. If you 
use your phone more than usual and put it on the charger early, it would 
then charge all the way because the new schedule isn't recognized. so 
according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your phone plugged in 
all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary stress and 
could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.


On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hi Gordon,

Thank you for your post.

So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that even 
when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% even 
though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would lead me 
to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have no 
detrimental affect on the device.

Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 2022, 
they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't know; 
just a thought.

You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think of 
printers; boring but necessary (smile).

Mark


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for most of 
the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent before you wake 
up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are under the most stress 
when fully charged at 100 percent and below about
15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these points 
is best for long life.

On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that
discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended
that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.
It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the
conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in
use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to
the life of the battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my
iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

2022-12-27 Thread Gordon

It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why 
Apple added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging. 
This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are 
under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below about 
15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these 
points is best for long life.


On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that discouraged
leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that
one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  It was
thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion is
that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way
damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the life
of the battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone
battery healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

2022-12-18 Thread Gordon

Yes my notifications came back this morning. so it does take a little 
time to get things working again after reinstalling weather gods.

On 12/18/2022 8:11 AM, Vicky Collins wrote:
When I got my notifications back, I went and deleted a city I no 
longer needed. When I did that, though, for a few hours after that, I 
still got that city notifications. I’m only saying this because 
possibly it may take a few hours for your notifications to come back. 
That’s only a thought, though.


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 17, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Gordon  wrote:



Well I did everything suggested there in that article with no luck. 
Completely reinstalled and restored purchases. I don't have a weather 
gods current subscription, however I do have the grandfathered plan 
from when I first bought it several years ago. Restoring purchases 
brought that functionality back, but no notifications. I enabled the 
daily summary to arrive at 7:00 PM and nothing came at 7:00.


On 12/17/2022 1:15 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:


I’m not a member of AppleVis, but I really should have looked there. 
For, if I had, I would have found this thread:


https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/weather-gods-summary-notification

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*Sent: *Saturday, December 17, 2022 1:39 PM
*To: *VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: *Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

Hi,

Another thing to try is choosing the Pause Notifications button, 
then choosing the one to resume.


Best,

Anna

> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Vicky Collins 
 wrote:


>

> Well, hope something works for you. Otherwise, near the very 
bottom of the list of settings in the app, there is a Feedback and 
Help button which brings up an option to compose an email message 
when double tapped on.


>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:


>>

>> I finally found it. We'll see if it does anything.

>>

>> Kathy Blackburn

>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 17, 2022 7:24 AM, Vicky Collins 
 wrote:


>>>

>>> Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t clear, but I was talking about restore 
purchases in the WeatherGods app.


>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:


>>>>

>>>> Under My Account in the app store, I find buttons labelled 
Purchased, Subscriptions, Notifications, Redeem Gift Card or Code, 
Send Gift Card by Email, Add Money to Account, Set Up Family 
Sharing, and Personalized Recommendations. My apps are all up to 
date, so the list of recently updated apps appears below those 
buttons. At the bottom of the screen is a sign out button. I'm not 
finding restore purchases.


>>>>

>>>> Kathy Blackburn

>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky Collins 
 wrote:


>>>>>

>>>>> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, 
restore purchases? I lost my notifications as well, and I am 
thinking the restore purchases is what did it for me to bring them 
back.


>>>>>

>>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:


>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to 
check settings. Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though.


>>>>>>

>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn

>>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner 
 wrote:


>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Hi,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the 
app, they started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t 
already.


>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Best,

>>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:


>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications 
still don't come.


>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn

>>>>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie 
Downey  wrote:


>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> HI Kathy,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from 
Weather Gods also but no longer does.


>>>>>>>>>

>>>

Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

2022-12-17 Thread Gordon

Well I did everything suggested there in that article with no luck. 
Completely reinstalled and restored purchases. I don't have a weather 
gods current subscription, however I do have the grandfathered plan from 
when I first bought it several years ago. Restoring purchases brought 
that functionality back, but no notifications. I enabled the daily 
summary to arrive at 7:00 PM and nothing came at 7:00.


On 12/17/2022 1:15 PM, Vicky Collins wrote:


I’m not a member of AppleVis, but I really should have looked there. 
For, if I had, I would have found this thread:


https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/weather-gods-summary-notification

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Windows


*From: *Anna Dresner 
*Sent: *Saturday, December 17, 2022 1:39 PM
*To: *VIPhone Mailing List 
*Subject: *Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

Hi,

Another thing to try is choosing the Pause Notifications button, then 
choosing the one to resume.


Best,

Anna

> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Vicky Collins  
wrote:


>

> Well, hope something works for you. Otherwise, near the very bottom 
of the list of settings in the app, there is a Feedback and Help 
button which brings up an option to compose an email message when 
double tapped on.


>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:


>>

>> I finally found it. We'll see if it does anything.

>>

>> Kathy Blackburn

>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 17, 2022 7:24 AM, Vicky Collins 
 wrote:


>>>

>>> Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t clear, but I was talking about restore 
purchases in the WeatherGods app.


>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:




 Under My Account in the app store, I find buttons labelled 
Purchased, Subscriptions, Notifications, Redeem Gift Card or Code, 
Send Gift Card by Email, Add Money to Account, Set Up Family Sharing, 
and Personalized Recommendations. My apps are all up to date, so the 
list of recently updated apps appears below those buttons. At the 
bottom of the screen is a sign out button. I'm not finding restore 
purchases.




 Kathy Blackburn

 kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky Collins 
 wrote:


>

> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, restore 
purchases? I lost my notifications as well, and I am thinking the 
restore purchases is what did it for me to bring them back.


>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:


>>

>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to check 
settings. Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though.


>>

>> Kathy Blackburn

>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner 
 wrote:


>>>

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, 
they started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t already.


>>>

>>> Best,

>>> Anna

>>>

>>>

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn 
 wrote:




 Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications 
still don't come.




 Kathy Blackburn

 kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie Downey 
 wrote:


>

> HI Kathy,

>

> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from Weather 
Gods also but no longer does.


>

> He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2

>

> He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this feature 
now or that is how it appears.


>

> It's too bad!

>

> Debbie

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn


> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 10:51 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods 
app


>

> I used to receive notifications from Weather Gods: one in 
the morning and another in the evening, and additional ones in the 
event of severe weather. My iPhone 8 is running IOS 16.2; Weather Gods 
version is 3.9, which is the latest one. I stopped receiving 
notifications weeks ago. I've settings within the app and in the 
settings app and don't see anything amiss. I'd welcome any 
suggestions. Thanks for any help.


>

> Kathy Blackburn

> kblac...@austin.rr.com

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Re: Instructions for testing IPhone battery health

2022-12-16 Thread Gordon

While you're in the battery section, take a look around and you'll find 
information about what apps have been using battery and how much. This 
is good to learn if there are any apps using an unusual amount of 
battery. One reason your new SE could be using more battery is if you're 
using 5G. If you have spotty 5G coverage in your area the phone will 
have to work harder to pull in that signal. If that's the case you could 
always switch it to LTE.


On 12/16/2022 10:12 PM, Diane Giannetti wrote:

Hi Nancy. What you need to do you need to go into settings keep scrolling down 
until you get to battery. Double tap and a battery. Keep scrolling until you 
get to battery health. Double tap on that. T Then scroll down a couple times 
until you get to battery health and charging. Double tap into that. Then scroll 
to get to maximum battery and it will tell you you don’t have to go into that 
you just listen. It’ll tell you how much your battery is at the maximum 
capacity.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Dec 16, 2022, at 10:46 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:


Everyone,


I have an SE 2022.


How can I check the battery health of my phone?


For some reason my SE does not seem to hold a charge as long as my original SE.


Many Thanks in advance for your help and instructions!

nancy



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Re: A problem with my new SE 2022

2022-12-16 Thread Gordon

This happened to my iPhone 13 a couple of weeks back and I called myself 
and once I got into the phone from the call it worked fine. Immediately 
after calling myself voice over read the incoming number. Then I entered 
my pass code and all has been well ever since. This is when I first 
started running the IOS 16.2 beta.


On 12/16/2022 11:50 AM, Jim Jones wrote:

I’ve tried raising the volume. I get nothing at all.


Jim Jones
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On Dec 16, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

If the home button is pushable, voiceover is on.  Try increasing the 
volume?

At 11:28 AM 12/16/2022, you wrote:
Nothing, it just sits there and doesnâ€™t make any noise. The home 
button is pushable though. I still get nothing though. I tried 
forcing a restart after listening to a YouTube video, still nothing.



Jim Jones
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On Dec 16, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

ï»¿
What happens when you plug it into AC?

Andy
- Original Message -
From: Jim Jones
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: A problem with my new SE 2022

Hi Richard,
When I flip the switch, I get nothing. I canâ€™t ask Siri anything. 
Iâ€™ve tried the three finger double tap, and still nothing.



Jim Jones
Sent from my iPhone
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On Dec 16, 2022, at 8:53 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:


ï»¿

If you flip the  mute switch, do you feel a vibration?  If so, you 
know it is on.


Does holding the home button and asking Siri anything work?

Can you ask Siri to turn VoiceOver on?

If it says VoiceOver is already on, then try a three finger double 
tap to unmute VoiceOver.


Richard, USA.

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with it.â€   --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
the Universe


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Jim Jones

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A problem with my new SE 2022

Hey all,

First, thank you guys for the number for Apple accessibility. That 
problem is fixed. Now, however, my new iPhone has completely frozen. 
No voiceover, no sound, but the home button still feels like I can 
push it. Iâ€™m guessing the power is still on? I have no idea what to 
do. I had just finished using Facebook messenger. The old phone that 
Iâ€™m using at the moment still works. Any help would be very much 
appreciated.


Jim Jones

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Microsoft sound scape being discontinued

2022-12-12 Thread Gordon

I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's being 
discontinued in January but that if you already have it installed on 
your phone you can use it through June. I hope that seeing AI doesn't go 
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Re: Iphone 16.2

2022-12-11 Thread Gordon

iOS 16.2 is supposed to be released tomorrow on Monday. We beta testers
received the release candidate last week and everything is looking really
good.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 6:29 PM Kelly Pierce  wrote:

> Soon, within the next week or two. Apple never pre-announces the
> release of software. Apple only announces the release of software when
> the software is available to customers to download and enjoy.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 12/11/22, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> > Hi all just a curiosity question. Does anyone have any idea when 16.2
> will
> > be released. I'm having a very strange problem with my iphone 13 mini and
> > hoping that 16.2 will fix it. At least once a day my phone will
> completely
> > freeze up. I can't find any thing that consistently happens just before
> it
> > freezes. I've talked with apple accessibility several times. We've tried
> > various things including completely reinstalling 16.1 update using Itunes
> > from my computer. Nothing seems to work. The only thing I can do is to
> shut
> > the phone down and re-start. It'll work normally for a while until it
> > doesn't again. I'm hoping that a major update will solve the problem.
> Very
> > very strange! If any one has heard of this or has a thought about a fix,
> > I'm
> > open to trying.
> >
> > God bless!
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IOS 16.1.1 released to public

2022-11-09 Thread Gordon

This came out for the public a couple of hours ago. So bug fixes and 
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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Gordon

Table top mode is just like a perkins without the space bar in the 
middle. So dot 3 will be closest to the ear peace speaker and dot 6 will 
be closest to the bottom of the screen where the charger goes. But your 
finger positioning will be the same as it would be with a Perkins. The 
phone will either sit on your lap or a surface in front of you. Screen 
away mode is better for holding the phone in your hands. In screen away 
mode the back of the phone is facing your chest long ways where the ear 
peace is on the left and the bottom of the screen on your right. You use 
your thumbs and pinkies to hold the phone and part of your palm would be 
up against the bottom speaker on your right hand the your left palm 
would be resting on the top of the phone nearest the ear peace. Then 
you're working with the width of the phone to position your six fingers 
to type the dots. Dot 1 would be near the mute switch and going across 
would be dots 2 and 3. And you'll do the same with your right hand 
coming from the bottom of the phone  which will make dots 4,5,6. This 
method takes a little practice to get used to because it is definitely 
different from what you're used to. However it's the fastest for me and 
definitely more comfortable. You might find that table top mode can help 
you get used to the concept of typing Braille on a touch screen and then 
graduate to screen away mode like I did. It all comes much easier once 
you get used to the concept of what you're doing. But if you give it a 
fair amount of time, you'll be typing like a pro in no time. It took me 
about a month because I tried it and didn't like it at first. But when I 
decided I was going to learn it, I picked it up in about 15 minutes.


On 11/5/2022 1:14 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:
Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own 
clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone 
rather than its  length with earpiece upward?

/Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin  
wrote:


Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the 
dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would 
have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right 
side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.


Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you 
with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in 
two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going 
from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. 
And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from 
top to bottom.


Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it 
is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the 
position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want 
to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three 
finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch 
side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation 
locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture 
to unlock the orientation.


I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille 
Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, 
then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of 
the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.


Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
 wrote:


Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and 
sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my 
fingers all the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

2022-11-05 Thread Gordon

I use the screen away method and can type as fast as any sighted person.
I was really bumbed out when the flick type keyboard went away. However
when I spent a couple of days with BSI, I didn't miss it at all. I can
type faster with BSI than I could with flick type. And it only requires
a little time of practice to learn how to do it.

On 11/5/2022 11:23 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון wrote:

Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.
Now I understand why it's happns to me.
I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.
It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away
mode and orientation locked.
now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to
type.
I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I
like it.

I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.
It's a grate feature.

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Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the
dots are like a perkins brailler. So on the left side, you would
have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right
side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you
with the charging port on the right. With this mode, the dots are in
two columns. On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going
from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column.
And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from
top to bottom.

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it
is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the
position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want
to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three
finger swipe down on the screen. This would be from your mute switch
side to the side with your side button. It should say, orientation
locked. This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture
to unlock the orientation.

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille
Screen Input. Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands,
then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of
the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris

On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes both of 2 eadges on the screen and
sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my
fingers all the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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Re: E-speak now available to test IOS

2022-11-04 Thread Gordon

You're going to need test flight installed on your phone before 
installing the E-speak beta. If you don't have test flight you'll be 
taken to the app store to get it where you can join the beta test for 
this app. The easiest way to do this is to open the link I'll include in 
this email on your phone which takes you to the apple vis blog post 
about the beta. In the blog post is the test flight link which you will 
click and take it from there. It's pretty straight forward from there. 
Once you get the app installed, go to accessibility, voice over, speech 
and you'll see the E-speak voices along with all others you can choose 
from. You can sample each one before switching to it. As they release 
new betas, you'll be notified by test flight and can install those. This 
is really cool because it opens the door for endless opportunities when 
it comes to other voices that could eventually come to the iPhone.


On 11/4/2022 6:54 AM, Star Gazer wrote:

Get me smart, from the ground up, what steps do I need to take to do this?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Heinrichs
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Gordon 
Subject: Re: E-speak now available to test IOS

Oh wow, E-Speak for iOS? Maybe I should check that out! I honestly wish Ivona 
hadn't gone to the Harpo store because I would've loved to have my favorite 
Ivona voices for iOS. I especially loved the Amy voice, that was my all-time 
favorite voice along with the Vocalizer Kate voice, the British voice.

Maria

On 11/3/2022 4:26 AM, Gordon wrote:

I got this from the top tech tid bits email this morning. You must
install test flight to do this, but when you get the app installed,
you'll find the voices in settings accessibility and will sample and
change them just like you would if you wanted to change any other
voices. It's actually pretty cool and works well. The only thing you
can't do right now is change the speech volume through the rotor, but
I did submit feedback to the developer about this. but there are a tun
of voices to choose from. Here's the link
https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/first-espeak-ng-beta-ios-now-ava
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Question about chargers and cables

2022-11-04 Thread Gordon

I'll include the link to what I'm wanting to buy so you can take a look 
for yourself if you'd like. I'm wondering if anyone out here has any 
experience with chargers and cables containing the MFI certification? 
The price on these is really good, but much cheaper than anything you 
would buy from Apple, so I just wanted to run it past you all before I 
buy them. I would think that Amazon would remove stuff from their site 
if it said it was MFI but wasn't. But I just wanted a second opinion 
anyway. 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3GQVKPN/ref=as_li_ss_tl?SubscriptionId=AKIAJO7E5OLQ67NVPFZA=7


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E-speak now available to test IOS

2022-11-03 Thread Gordon

I got this from the top tech tid bits email this morning. You must 
install test flight to do this, but when you get the app installed, 
you'll find the voices in settings accessibility and will sample and 
change them just like you would if you wanted to change any other 
voices. It's actually pretty cool and works well. The only thing you 
can't do right now is change the speech volume through the rotor, but I 
did submit feedback to the developer about this. but there are a tun of 
voices to choose from. Here's the link 
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Re: Having dictation problems with IOS 16.1.

2022-11-01 Thread Gordon

Dictation seems to be going back and forth. When I first posted about 
this out here when the release candidate first came out, dictation was 
really bad. But then it cleared up later that week and was working much 
better prior to 16.1 hitting everyone's phone. And now it's back to not 
working so well. Definitely frustrating.


On 11/1/2022 10:46 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Kimber

Would you please be so kind to report to accessibility, really people if noone 
or just a few of us do report, bugs will not be taken into their attention, sop 
lease report the bugs for ios16.1 the most buggy and unstable update that I 
have ever seen.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Kimberly
Verzonden: dinsdag 1 november 2022 14:22
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: Having dictation problems with IOS 16.1.

I too have seen the problem where the dictated text is written twice. For me it 
happens most often in the message app.


Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen


On Nov 1, 2022, at 7:58 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:

I can reproduce this.

Sometimes there is no tekst feedback and even worse, the tekst is typed 2 times 
we know this problem in facebook for years now but no wit happens randomly.
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: dinsdag 1 november 2022 8:31
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Having dictation problems with IOS 16.1.

I have noticed that recently using the dictation mode is not as accurate as it 
used to be. It is inevitable that it will sometimes get it wrong, but for the 
past few weeks it has certainly been less accurate than in the past.
Alison
(U.K.)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 31 October 2022 23:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having dictation problems with IOS 16.1.

Saying that you are having trouble, doesn't give us anything to go by.
What kind of trouble?




Richard, USA.
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Judd
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having dictation problems with IOS 16.1.

Hi all,

I have noticed that sometimes when I dictate something, I am having trouble.  I 
was wondering if anyone can give me tips on how to make my dictation a lot 
better?
Also, do I need to have any of the smart dictation settings set in the keyboard 
settings?
Thanks for any help.
Chris

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Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

2022-10-25 Thread Gordon

It seems to be working fine for me as long as I use the two finger 
double tap to start and stop dictation.


On 10/25/2022 6:56 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi,
I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also 
makes intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the 
dictation is long enough.
I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps 
including mail, reminders, and messages.

Merv



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Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts 
found that when they try to dictate a message that they loose all 
function  with vo? When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun 
and dubble tap it again that juring the dictation process vo go’s 
scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out of the dictation 
moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.


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Follow up dictation upcoming IOS 16.1

2022-10-22 Thread Gordon

So I promised an email over the weekend giving my final opinion on IOS 
16.1 that you will all have the opportunity to install on Monday. 
Dictation is working a lot better, however you must use the two finger 
double tap to start and stop. I've always found the dictate button and 
double tapped with one finger to start and stop, but that method doesn't 
work very well in the new version. But the accuracy seems to be much 
better and I would say it would be fine to get the update. They did not 
push out a second release candidate, so I'm assuming they fixed a lot of 
this under the hood without having to update the software. Battery life 
is incredibly good on my phone. I've only use 48 percent in 24 hours and 
I did use my phone a lot yesterday on Saturday. Dictation seemed to work 
itself out sometime on Friday on my device and I've used it a good bit 
prior to sending this message. But it was really busted when I first 
reached out to Mark to clear with him discussing this issue. I 
understand why it's not a good idea to discuss beta software because 
things are constantly changing, but release candidates are the finished 
product that the public will get. I'm just glad that this got sorted out 
before it went public because I know that a lot of people rely on 
dictation working properly for their every day use.


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Dictation in upcoming IOS version

2022-10-19 Thread Gordon

I spoke with Mark last night and cleared this with him based on the 
nature of the issue. So as you know IOS 16.1 will be arriving on Monday 
for the public. right now us beta testers are working with what is 
called the release candidate. this is the final version that will go 
public. I'm experiencing huge issues with dictation. If dictation is 
something you rely on on a daily basis, you might want to follow this 
group closely once this version goes public instead of getting it 
yourself right away. Some of the issues I'm facing are as follows. Huge 
inaccuracies, long delays when starting and stopping dictation and 
placing you in different positions within the edit box if you start and 
stop dictation frequently. I imagine that we probably have users here on 
the group who use their phones for work and other things where they need 
dictation to work well for them. And especially for those who might deal 
with issues relating to their fingers not being able to type all that 
well and rely on dictation. It's not guaranteed that the version I have 
will go out on Monday because they could either fix this or push out 
another release candidate before the weekend. So I will let you know 
sometime this weekend if things are a little better so you can have the 
information on Monday when the software is available for your device. I 
just wanted to get this information out here now for those who might not 
check the group every day. I just didn't want anyone to be stuck with 
this if dictation hasn't improved and you need it to work well for how 
you use your phone. I've never seen it this busted since I've been an 
IOS user going back to 2016.


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Re: VoiceDream Scanner issue

2022-09-27 Thread Gordon

Same issue here, but I'm also seeing it with seeing AI and envision. So 
it might be an IOS issue.


On 9/26/2022 5:02 PM, Paula Mack wrote:

Same thing happened to me although my first scan, it took the picture, but 
there was no recognition. After that, I got the same error that you are getting.
I wrote to support, and they just told me to delete the app and reinstall it, 
and I guess I will do that. However, I did that yesterday, and it had no effect.

Regards,
Paula Mack


On Sep 26, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,

I hope this finds all happy and well.

I am having an issue with voiceDream Scanner as I said.  I launch it, I get one 
successful scan and then after discarding the result all subsequent scans will give an 
error that says "can not record ok button." I also note that the typical 
something is in view tone doesn't sound either. I tried deleting and redownloading the 
app to no avail.

I'm running it on an iPhone 14 Pro Max running iOS 16.0.2 I believe we're at 
now.


Can anyone else replicate this problem and is there a known fix for it?

Thanks for any light you could shed on this for me.

Take good care,

Robin


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Re: problem with deleting text messages

2022-09-15 Thread Gordon

And remember there is now a recently deleted when deleting conversations
from the messages app. You'll find this by hitting the edit button at
the top left part of the screen. You can delete all messages or
individual conversations. It retains them for 30 days just like the
photos app.

On 9/15/2022 9:30 AM, regina alvarado wrote:
If you’re talking about messages, texts, they always have asked you if
you want to delete them what I do is flick up to delete and then swipe
to the right to delete them and they delete. If it’s an email all you
have to do is flick up and delete. You can delete by however you have
it set either with conversation or Individual. Not sure which one you
mean but in messages that’s always been there. If I’m not
understanding you I’m really sorry. Let me know if I can help you further.

Reggie Alvarado

On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Rena wrote:

In the previous version, it didn’t ask me this question. I just
deleted them.

Now, besides having to delete one by one, I have to tap several times
to get rid of each message. Perhaps there is a way in settings, but I
don’t know much yet.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf
Of *Diane Giannetti

*Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:06 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: problem with deleting text messages

Rena, my understanding about all that is that it will ask you that
only if they are not in your contacts. If they are in your contacts,
it shouldn’t ask you that.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

On Sep 15, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Rena wrote:

Hello,

After the update, every time I delete a text message, it says

You can report this conversation as junk …

I click don’t report

And I have to tap on don’t report again.

Is there any way to eliminate this report or don’t report issue?

Rena

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Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Gordon

Yes, I really don't know why they have such a lengthy delay. it could be
some type of contractual thing with the NFL where that broadcast Hass to
reach TV audiences and the flagship radio audiences before it can be pushed
out to SiriusXM listeners. i'll have to try tune in premium to see if they
have the long delay as well.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 9:50 AM Amy Ruell  wrote:

> I get all of the sports, got 3 months free for signing up, and have the
> platinum package.
>
> I don’t have a radio, just stream on my phone. Sad to hear about the
> delay, as I like to listen while my family watches the games.
>
> Hoping they have college football and basketball as well. I cancelled my
> Tune In and MLB subscriptions to save money.
>
> Amy
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kevin Minor
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2022 10:39 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
>
> Hi.
>
>
>
> It might have changed, but it used to be if you wanted to have all the
> sports, a radio was required to get that online subscription.
>
>
>
> I could be wrong, or it might have changed.
>
>
>
> Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2022 10:31 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
>
> I believe with the radio it is about $23 while the streaming plan is
> $11.99.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Casey Wollner  wrote:
>
> Hi what is the price difference between the to platinum plans with the
> radio or with out?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
> Yeah, I got into the streaming plans without the car radio, but I think I
> just took the default, which is the Music and Entertainment plan.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
> One thing that I learned through the signing up for SiriusXM is that there
> is 2 platinum plans.  The regular platinum plan which in addition to
> streaming, also includes an actual radio like in a car or one you keep in
> your house, and the platinum streaming plan, which only includes
> streaming.  So I just ended up calling them to make sure I got the right
> one.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game
> Pass in the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have
> another alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it
> were my only option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can
> give the free trial a spin as well.
>
>
>
> Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and
> information I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the
> wrong package. I got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the
> Platinum package. I used their customer service bot to get it all
> straightened out, and that was a great experience. Not only was the support
> staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, but the bot itself was very
> accessible. Now that I've got the right package, it's all working great!
> Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on this list!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>
> Dennis Long
>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
>
> Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is
> accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app
> experience.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>
> Christopher Chaltain
>
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
>
> Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a
> game that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times
> when I was able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we
> have an alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of
> that alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make
> their apps and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that
> you don't get in other packages is

Re: Text message question

2022-04-20 Thread Gordon

I don't see carriers breaking up messages these days. I think that 
applied back in the CDMA days. It could still be happening, but I don't 
see it when I text people or receive texts from Android users. I haven't 
seen broken up messages in years.


On 4/20/2022 6:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

My understanding is that if the message is going out as an SMS message, then 
it'll be broken up into physical messages of about 153 characters. Whether it 
comes through as a single message in the proper order will depend on the cell 
carriers involved and the messaging app being used on the receivers phone. I 
would bet that this should just mostly work, but there may be some clunky 
providers or messaging apps that have trouble with this.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text message question

I have send as SMS turned on because some of my contacts use Android.
Because of the 140 character limits of text messages, I am wondering whether 
all parts of a truncated message will be sent to the recipient or only the 
first segment. I should probably mention that I am using IOS 15.4.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: Major S E 2020 problems

2022-04-09 Thread Gordon

Have you checked to make sure that voice over volume isn't turned down 
in the rotor? To do this you need to make sure that the phone is on and 
able to take rotor commands. Turn the rotor and each time you do, flick 
up one time. When the voice volume is all the way down in the rotor, you 
have no speech.


On 4/9/2022 12:17 AM, Donald Roberts wrote:
My S E 2020 is almost non-functional. I will list the major symptoms 
and hope that I get some educated guesses which will help me resolve 
the issues.


First of all, let me list the things which still work. Siri continues 
to function. I can make and receive phone calls. I can make the calls 
by dictating contact names or phone numbers. Although voiceOver is 
turned on, I have no speech. Even though Siri works, I used the three 
finger double tap to see whether this altered anything. Since it 
didn't, I again pressed the three finger double tap. Pressing the side 
button does not cause the little sound which indicates whether the 
screen is locked. No speech is heard when I swipe through the icons on 
the home screen.


I intend to call Apple in the morning, but with no verbal feedback, I 
don't see how I can accept screen sharing.


So there you have it. I will be most grateful for suggestions. In 
conclusion, if I didn't say so previously, the mute switch is not off, 
and the volume is maxed.


Don Roberts



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Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

2022-03-30 Thread Gordon

Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. 
Sounds like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.


On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:

Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. The 
best email address to use is:
rowdyameri...@gmail.com
Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could
record you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:

Hi,
I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

- Original Message -
From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently as 
last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:

Hi,
Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.

Sincerely,
Jasmine



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

- Original Message -

From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
To:
CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it will 
show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been able to 
put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone

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Using files as ring tones without iTunes

2022-03-30 Thread Gordon

So I use the HQ record app and it will allow you to save a file as a 
ring tone which intern saves the file as an m4r enabling you to use it 
as a ring tone. However when I go into sounds and alerts, it's not 
listed there to be selected. But I do see it when I go into the files 
app under the HQ recorder folder. How to you choose to use that 
particular file as a ring tone on your iPhone? I thought you could do 
this without having to have iTunes and adding it that way.


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Re: Anyone purchasing the new iPhone SE2022

2022-03-22 Thread Gordon

Sorry you're going through that! how annoying that must be. I hope you 
get your phone soon. Did you give UPS a ring and ask them what the heck 
is going on?


On 3/22/2022 10:52 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:

I did order the phone but unfortunately I am unable to report on battery status 
or anything else as it has not yet arrived at my home even though it was out 
for delivery with UPS last Friday, the 18th. They never showed up with it and 
the estimated date of delivery changed to Monday, the 21st. Where it once said 
out for delivery it now says on the way, and where the estimated date of 
delivery it says date will be provided soon. So, needless to say, I’m not a 
particularly happy camper! What happened to it after arriving in my home city? 
I’ve never had a problem like this one. If/when I get it, I’ll report. In the 
meantime, there are probably messages here that I haven’t yet gotten to which 
have the kind of info you are interested in lol.

Take care everyone,

Ann


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 18, 2022, at 5:36 AM, Gordon  wrote:

Not sure what the official name is, iPhone SE3 or iPhone SE2022. But I'm 
wondering if anyone plans to upgrade to it since it comes out today? I'm 
curious to see what battery life will be like with the A15 chip even though not 
much is changing from the SE2020. And Will Apple be upgrading the speaker 
system where it might sound a little better?  I do think that battery life will 
be better as the A15 does a better job at managing processes on the phone. So 
please let us know if anyone on list upgrades.

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Anyone purchasing the new iPhone SE2022

2022-03-18 Thread Gordon

Not sure what the official name is, iPhone SE3 or iPhone SE2022. But I'm 
wondering if anyone plans to upgrade to it since it comes out today? I'm 
curious to see what battery life will be like with the A15 chip even 
though not much is changing from the SE2020. And Will Apple be upgrading 
the speaker system where it might sound a little better?  I do think 
that battery life will be better as the A15 does a better job at 
managing processes on the phone. So please let us know if anyone on list 
upgrades.


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Re: 911 Calling Help Please.

2022-01-16 Thread Gordon

I've never heard of an iPhone randomly calling emergency services. Do 
you have Hey siri turned on where the phone might have heard something 
that might have made it dial? I have asked Siri a question totally 
unrelated and it thought I wanted to dial 911.


On 1/16/2022 6:15 PM, janet gross wrote:


Sieghard,

I forgot to answer when you asked me about what happens when I used my 
Bluetooth Ear Pods ,  The Bluetooth Ear Pods did connect, but I still 
couldn’t hear anything through the phone.


Janet

Janet

Sent from Mail  for 
Windows


*From: *Sieghard Weitzel 
*Sent: *Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:20 PM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

All iPhones until I think the iPhone 12 came with wired Earpods. If 
you still have the original box you might want to check as they might 
be in there. I find it is virtually essential to have a set of these 
Earpods around even if it is just for such situations. Anyways, what 
happens if you use your Bluetooth headset, do you get anything there?


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *janet gross

*Sent:* January 16, 2022 3:13 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

Hi,

No my XR phone didn’t come with Headphones though, as I usually use 
Bluetooth Headphones.


Janet

Sent from Mail 
 
for Windows


*From: *Sieghard Weitzel 
*Sent: *Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:55 PM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *RE: 911 Calling Help Please.

Do you have the Earpods which came with your phone?

I assume the volume has gotten turned down all the way, try to plug in 
a headset and see if you can hear Voiceover.


If you can then make sure your phone is unlocked and on the home 
screen and Voiceover of course is working with the headset. Then 
unplug the headset and press the volume up button repeatedly like 
maybe 5 or 6 times and if this is the issue you should hear Voiceover 
volume coming back up after the first 2 or 3 presses.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *janet gross

*Sent:* January 16, 2022 2:04 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* 911 Calling Help Please.

Hi Everyone,

I was just sitting at my Computer, and I had my phone sitting on my 
Computer desk, and for some strange reason my phone started dialing 
911 emergency.  911 Emergency called me back 3 times, but I couldn’t 
answer the phone.  I used my Magic Jack phone to call 911 to let them 
know I am ok.  I tried to stop the Phone from calling, but I can’t 
hear Voiceover.  I pressed the volume button up, I tried 3 finger 
tapping to turn Voiceover back on, but I still can’t hear anything at 
all, except when I turn the phone off I can hear the sound when I 
usually turn off the Phone, or when I plug the charger in to the 
phone. I can’t get in touch with Siri either.  I  have an iPhone XR 
with the latest iOS.  Can someone please tell me what I might do to 
get Voiceover to start talking.


Thank you all in advance.

Janet

Sent from Mail 
 
for Windows


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IOS 15.2.1 is available

2022-01-12 Thread Gordon

Minor bug fixes for car play and messages. And probably some security 
stuff as well.


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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

2021-12-28 Thread Gordon


Totally uncalled for.

On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job that 
you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I mean I 
have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the house. I 
can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on their hands 
glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later you’re going to 
need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other people it’s just 
truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. Sit back relax and 
enjoy life. Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:

Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Greetings,



I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served together 
for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to the end of 
my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” by William L. 
Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.

It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
bound.

I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.



I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
choice.

I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.



I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.

I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  Using 
my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
with a single page facing up.

I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
repeated.



After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.



Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

The scanning results are quite excellent.

I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, opened 
then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.



In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
fictional that would be rendered fic-

tional.

Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.

That is damn good in my book.

Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages of 
content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.

I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.



For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having this 
done about 43 years ago.

I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.

So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back binding, 
and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.

It wasbrilliant!

Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, has 
been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they would lie 
flat on the piano.

Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.

I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.

They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.

Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.



You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature in 
Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the width 
I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.



Later,



Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin



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Re: Has anyone received a message, that their phone has been hacked?

2021-12-27 Thread Gordon

I would think this is a scam to get you to download a fraudulent app. If 
it were real Apple would push it to you themselves.


On 12/27/2021 11:02 PM, Stacy Fuehrer wrote:

Good evening everyone.
About 45 minutes ago, I finished watching a YouTube video concerning some other 
aspects of assistive technology.
Truly after the video ended, and I was getting ready to close Safari, a page 
popped up that said my phone has been hacked and instructed me to go to the App 
Store and download a repair program.
Should I do this?
Is this real?
Definitely don’t want to lose my phone

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: Recording live music with the iPhone

2021-12-21 Thread Gordon

The reason it sounded so good is because the bottom mic isn't used for
stereo recording. The iPhone uses the two mics near the camera. One of
the mics is around the ear peace speaker and the other is on the back
near the back camera. I really wish they would use the bottom mic as
well to give better stereo separation.

On 12/21/2021 5:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I converted it from m4a to mp3 with GoldWave on my PC.
I took the master recording, set queue points and had GoldWave split
the file into wav files, then used GoldWave to enter all the tag
information in each .wav file, then used its batch processing to
export as MP3 because that is more universal for sounds on web sites.

More than you wanted to know.

Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
John Ruskin

website: www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Dec 21, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Gordon wrote:

How did you get just press record to record in mp3? Mine will only
record in m4a/aac and wav.

On 12/21/2021 12:51 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

There has been some discussion of recording with the iPhone during
live performances for personal use.

I’ve put up an example on my web site of the possible results for
those who just cannot help themselves…

Here is the paragraph from my site and if you are using HTML
messages, the link should play the sample.

Recording live music with the iPhone 13 pro

Confession time.
I am putting up a sample of a recording I made recently of 6 cellist
playing in an Atrium, which had a ceiling that was almost 3 stories
tall. It was a large room and we were sitting in folding chairs a
little more than half of the way from front-to-back and close to the
middle side-to-side. If full the way they had the seats arranged
with some space between, it probably would seat 150 to 200 people,
more in non-Covid times.

My iPhone is the 13 Pro and I carry it in a shoulder bag.
I didn't want to try and hold it during the concert so I started
recording with the app, Just Press Record, and dropped it in my
carrier. So, one end is sticking down into the small bag so the
microphone is pointing at the floor, through the material of the
bag. The other end is pointing toward the ceiling with the flap that
normally covers it pulled back to give it open access to the room.

* Nothing in the program nor nothing said from the stage forbad
recording. I know, I know; probably since they record their own
programs for their own subscription service they probably don't'
want people like me recording. However, it was not explicitly stated
and I just did this for myself out of curiosity.

Here is a sample of the 6 cellists of the 45TH Parallel Universe
playing the Hallelujah Chorus from the Messiah.
HallelujahChorusSample.mp3
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FHallelujahChorusSample.mp3=04%7C01%7C%7Ce005b7558845471b322d08d9c4da1ceb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637757263332487797%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=kKPQk6LluDnGA7TFGyNBqz05uEzqWB7MuIkncE49LkM%3D=0>

Richard

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Re: Recording live music with the iPhone

2021-12-21 Thread Gordon

How did you get just press record to record in mp3? Mine will only 
record in m4a/aac and wav.


On 12/21/2021 12:51 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


There has been some discussion of recording with the iPhone during 
live performances for personal use.


I’ve put up an example on my web site of the possible results for 
those who just cannot help themselves…



Here is the paragraph from my site and if you are using HTML
messages, the link should play the sample.


Recording live music with the iPhone 13 pro

Confession time.
I am putting up a sample of a recording I made recently of 6 cellist 
playing in an Atrium, which had a ceiling that was almost 3 stories 
tall. It was a large room and we were sitting in folding chairs a 
little more than half of the way from front-to-back and close to the 
middle side-to-side. If full the way they had the seats arranged with 
some space between, it probably would seat 150 to 200 people, more in 
non-Covid times.


My iPhone is the 13 Pro and I carry it in a shoulder bag.
I didn't want to try and hold it during the concert so I started 
recording with the app, Just Press Record, and dropped it in my 
carrier. So, one end is sticking down into the small bag so the 
microphone is pointing at the floor, through the material of the bag. 
The other end is pointing toward the ceiling with the flap that 
normally covers it pulled back to give it open access to the room.


* Nothing in the program nor nothing said from the stage forbad 
recording. I know, I know; probably since they record their own 
programs for their own subscription service they probably don't' want 
people like me recording. However, it was not explicitly stated and I 
just did this for myself out of curiosity.


Here is a sample of the 6 cellists of the 45TH Parallel Universe 
playing the Hallelujah Chorus from the Messiah.
HallelujahChorusSample.mp3 



Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

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Re: Question about T-Mobile

2021-12-03 Thread Gordon

I've been with T-mobile for 12 years and have always had good 
experiences. All carriers say that data can be slowed in times of 
congestion. So this is something that you'll see with any carrier you 
sign up with.


On 12/3/2021 4:25 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I have been with t-mobile for several years and don’t have any 
problems.  I am qite happy with them.


Matthew

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Rena

*Sent:* Friday, December 3, 2021 10:29 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Question about T-Mobile

Hello,

I use AT, but I’m planning to change to T-Mobile. I would like to 
know if anyone uses T-Mobile and if she or he is happy with this 
company. My main concerned is that I read that in periods of 
congestion I can experience  some slow service. Please, I will 
appreciate your opinions.


Thank you,

Rena

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Re: iOS 15.1.1 is out

2021-11-25 Thread Gordon

This update only went out to iPhone 12 and 13 models. No other iPhone
got this update.

On 11/25/2021 7:52 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:

my 13pro did give me a notification about it.
Simon

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 26, 2021 12:42 AM
*Subject:* RE: iOS 15.1.1 is out

Yeha and it instlls with out letting you know,

At least it did on my 13pm.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com *On
Behalf Of *Cris Ali
*Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2021 10:48 am
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; CHELA Robles
*Subject:* Re: iOS 15.1.1 is out

iOS 15.1.1 came out last week. However, it came out only for
iPhones 12 and 13. Since you have iPhone eight, you are not going
to have it. Do not wait for it.

Cheers,

On 11/25/21 3:56 PM, CHELA Robles wrote:

I do not see the update yet for my iPhone 8 plus but it
doesn’t mean it’s not there I’m sure it’s going to be there
eventually. So what’s new in this version?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Alan Lemly
wrote:

Just a heads up to let folks know.

Alan Lemly

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Re: Voice Over Help Please.

2021-11-05 Thread Gordon

So lets find out if your rotor volume accidentally got turned down. make
sure that your screen is on and turn the rotor. Each time you turn the
rotor flick up once. Eventually you'll get around to the volume option
and the flick up will raise that volume if it's all the way down. This
bit of advice has helped a lot of people in the past.

On 11/5/2021 10:37 AM, janet gross wrote:

Hi,

I already tried the double tap, but still can’t hear Voice Over.

Janet

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*From: *Malcolm Parfitt
*Sent: *Friday, November 5, 2021 10:30 AM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *Re: Voice Over Help Please.

Try doing a double tap with three fingers. This turns speech on/off.
You can have VoiceOver running without speech useful for Braille
users. The fact that you can hear clicks when swiping is indicative
of speech being unintentionally turned off.

Hope this solves your issue.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 5 Nov 2021, at 15:24, Alex Stone wrote:

Has the volume accidentally got turned down?

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Nov 2021, at 15:22, janet gross
wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I turned on my phone this morning, and I can’t hear Voice Over
speaking at all. I can hear the clicking sound when I am
swiping, but that is all. I tried shutting down the phone,
but that didn’t make any difference, I told Siri a few times
to turn on Voice Over, and she said Voice Over is already on,
so I told her to turn off Voice Over, and she says nothing, I
tell her to turn on Voice Over again, she once again says
Voice Over is already on. Can someone please tell me if there
is anything else I can do. Oh, I also turned the mute button
for the ringer off and back on, and that didn’t make a
difference either. I’m using an XR phone with 14.8.

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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Re: IOS 15.0.2 is out

2021-10-11 Thread Gordon

You normally don't see bugs being introduced in versions like this. 
These versions fix things and close security gaps.


On 10/11/2021 12:15 PM, Michael McKay wrote:

Hi! Gordon, and List:

I just received this in my email a few minutes ago or rather just found it in 
my email a few minutes ago concerning iOS 15.0.2, and that it is out. I’m 
wondering if anybody is having any problems that I should be aware of. So far 
in all of the iOS downloads that I’ve received I’ve had no problems. Or at 
least not much to speak of. I am going to wait another day to make sure or at 
least until tonight to make sure and hopefully hear from some people on the 
list as to whether there are bugs in this update. Usually it seems for many 
people that the bug fixes bring in more bugs, so I want to be sure that I don’t 
have any irritations or problems with this update as well.

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Michael G MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 11, 2021, at 14:08, Gordon  wrote:

It says bug fixes and important security updates.

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IOS 15.0.2 is out

2021-10-11 Thread Gordon


It says bug fixes and important security updates.

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Re: Safe way to read credit card numbers

2021-10-05 Thread Gordon

Thanks a lot for this, yes I just wanted to make sure that the voice dream 
scanner did everything on device. I will memorize the credit card number, so 
I'm not really trying to save it anywhere. The voice dream scanner is by far 
one of the best apps I've ever purchased.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Sieghard, Winston has built-in the Voice Dream Scanner into Voice Dream 
> Reader for times when you want to scan something to read in Voice Dream 
> Reader so you don't have to do a two/three step process to get your scan into 
> the Reader.
> The one in the reader doesn't have quite all the same bells and whistles, but 
> for a quick scan, of a document you want to keep, it is pretty slick.
> 
> Quite a nice feature.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
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> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: RE: Safe way to read credit card numbers
> 
> If you mean Voice Dream Scanner then yes, it does process on device and so 
> does the Seeing AI short text channel.
> You could also call Aira, their agents are trained and I would consider it a 
> secure way to get card information..
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> So I got a new card yesterday and would like to write down the card number. 
> Does anyone out here use any apps to do that? Does voice dream reader process 
> on device or does it send off to a server somewhere? I can get someone to 
> read it to me later, but I was just wondering if I could do it myself some 
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Safe way to read credit card numbers

2021-10-05 Thread Gordon

So I got a new card yesterday and would like to write down the card 
number. Does anyone out here use any apps to do that? Does voice dream 
reader process on device or does it send off to a server somewhere? I 
can get someone to read it to me later, but I was just wondering if I 
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Re: FaceTime, I O S 15.0

2021-09-23 Thread Gordon

You choose this while in a face time call by opening control center and 
choosing the mic option at the top right of the screen. There you will 
be presented with two options. The first is voice isolation and the 
second is wide spectrum. Wide spectrum is the spacial audio. It's on by 
default when installing 15.


On 9/23/2021 7:40 AM, Noe Villeda wrote:


Hello all,

I read that there is now a spacial audio feature in the facetime app, 
is that set by default, or do I need to enable that in settings?


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Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

2021-09-22 Thread Gordon

I'll show you how to get your normal face time sound back. When 15 
launched wide spectrum audio mode is active by default. While in a face 
time call, open control center and at the top of the screen you'll see 
something about the mic. Double tap there and you'll be presented with 
two options, voice isolation and wide spectrum audio. This is under the 
main control center and not the face time options. It would be much more 
convenient if Apple had placed those options in the face time options.

On 9/22/2021 1:46 PM, lenron brown wrote:

Ah so it's not just me. Sometimes yes the sound is weird and not in a
good way. Also I guess I also seem to sound strange unless I put in my
Airpods.

On 9/22/21, Cris Ali  wrote:

Hello folks.
Have any of you noticed a major change in the way FaceTime sounds after
updating to iOS 15? The voice of the other persons on the other side sounds
as if they are talking inside a very large empty hall. I also sound to them
as if I am talking inside a large empty room after I updated to fifteen,
although they are still using 14.8. Is there a setting I must change to go
back to the lovely normal sound of the familiar FaceTime.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: IOS 15 security update

2021-09-20 Thread Gordon


Yes that's the one I have after the security update.

On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after 
installing the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software 
version, double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you 
have after the security patch by chance?

Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)



Richard
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On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith  
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There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 
15 RC. However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is 
deleted. Once the profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. 
The update is labeled security update.


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For those of you coming from the beta

2021-09-20 Thread Gordon

I wanted to post this quick note to let you know there's a security 
update for 15. So you need to delete the configuration profile and get 
it. I'm letting people know because it looks important and I want to 
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Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

2021-09-16 Thread Gordon

I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty 
early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just 
think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life 
issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users 
put on it.


On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:

I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. Was 
originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that as I 
love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out another 
mini so soon.

I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.

All the best
Angie



On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have
any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.

So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year
(smile).

Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the
idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name
(smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
(big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).

Mark


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Re: Visible Wireless for those who are interested

2021-08-31 Thread Gordon

Visible might be a good fit for you as long as your phone is unlocked. 
You can even activate through E-sim if you want. And if you use my code 
3qh7Qv, you only pay $5. Once you become a customer, you'll get your own 
code that you can give out for the $5 months for both you and the new 
person signing up. E-sim will have you up and running in about 5 
minutes. E-sim started being offered with the 10S iPhone models which 
includes the SE20.


On 9/1/2021 12:15 AM, Joseph Hudson wrote:

Oh cool, not a bad deal. I pay 75 right now with consumer cellular and that 
gives me 15 gigs of data which I'm pretty well happy with from my work phone 
and my iPhone.


On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Gordon  wrote:

I don't think I've mentioned Visible out here, but I'm very happy with it. It's 
owned by Verizon, so you get the Verizon 4GLTE network along with access to the 
5G network on supported phones. It's $40 per month, but goes down to $25 once 
you join a party with more than four people which is easy to do since anyone 
can   join a party. I already have one you can instantly join and get the 
$25 price which includes taxes. But the cool thing about Visible is the 
referral codes. My referral code is 3qh7Qv. When using this code you'll get 
your first month for $5 which is all you will pay since the sim card is free. 
The visible app is fully accessible and you can bring your unlocked iPhone or 
purchase one from them. I'm getting 85 megs down here in Dallas on the LTE 
network. So I just wanted to pass this along for anyone who might want to be on 
Verizon or cut some serious costs from what you might be paying for your 
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Visible Wireless for those who are interested

2021-08-31 Thread Gordon

I don't think I've mentioned Visible out here, but I'm very happy with 
it. It's owned by Verizon, so you get the Verizon 4GLTE network along 
with access to the 5G network on supported phones. It's $40 per month, 
but goes down to $25 once you join a party with more than four people 
which is easy to do since anyone can join a party. I already have one 
you can instantly join and get the $25 price which includes taxes. But 
the cool thing about Visible is the referral codes. My referral code is 
3qh7Qv. When using this code you'll get your first month for $5 which is 
all you will pay since the sim card is free. The visible app is fully 
accessible and you can bring your unlocked iPhone or purchase one from 
them. I'm getting 85 megs down here in Dallas on the LTE network. So I 
just wanted to pass this along for anyone who might want to be on 
Verizon or cut some serious costs from what you might be paying for your 
current service.


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Spacial audio support on clubhouse

2021-08-29 Thread Gordon

So Clubhouse pushed out an update earlier for IOS that offers spacial 
audio support. It doesn't work on all blue tooth head sets, but it works 
well on most wired headsets I tried. If you don't like it, you can turn 
it off in your profile area. It sounds like you're all sitting at a big 
conference table and you hear people around you. To check this out, 
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IOS 14.7.1 just released

2021-07-26 Thread Gordon


This fixes a couple of bugs and offers security fixes.

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Re: Sirius xm

2021-07-03 Thread Gordon

Yeah the best way to use Sirius XM is to look for the all channels 
button when launching the app. But before you do any of that, go to 
settings and make sure to minimize the player if you don't want it going 
full screen each time you choose a channel where you have to back out of 
it to get back to the list. On the main home screen you'll see things 
like podcasts and other options you can choose from depending on what 
you're wanting to listen to when using the app. You can also choose your 
streaming bit rate which I recommend if you're using cellular data and 
don't want the app to consume a larger amount of data.


On 7/2/2021 5:34 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Once you have an account and are signed-in, the Sirius/XM app is very
accessible. There are a few unlabeled buttons, but you are still able
to access channels and other features within the app. There is another
app some people use to access Sirius which is more stripped down, but
I have grown to really enjoy the main Sirius app. Over all, the Sirius
app gives me many features which are not in that other stripped down
app. To each their own.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

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I am interested in getting a subscription to Sirius Xm to use with the
iPhone app.  How accessible is the iPhone app?  Thanks for any help.

   Bud Kennedy



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The Twitter app for IOS

2021-07-03 Thread Gordon

So I'm wondering if this is happening to anyone else when using the 
Twitter app. When I'm going through my twitter feed most of the time it 
goes to the bottom after going through a few tweets to the vertical bar 
thing. It used to be rare when this would happen, but it's become more 
frequent as of late. So I was wondering if I'm the only one this is 
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Re: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

2021-04-27 Thread Gordon

the hair dryer might not be such a good idea. You might get lucky and 
fix the issue, but you're also going to create humidity inside the phone 
that could cause major damage to the device. Rubbing the phone down with 
an alcohol wipe would work a little better. My ear speaker got water in 
it and I dripped a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol inside the grill to 
evaporate the water. But don't make a habit out of doing this because it 
could ware down the finger print resistance that Apple applies to the 
outside of the iPhone. There is an app called speaker cleaner that uses 
tones like the Apple watch to expel water from the speakers.


On 4/27/2021 9:06 AM, Carolyn wrote:

I took the hair drier to mine.

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 7:58 PM
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Use the rice if you like but be aware that it’s been found to be a myth

  

  


The best thing to do is put the phone somewhere warmish and  in a towel or 
something

So that the warmth   allows the water to evaporate

  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 7:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Kimberly 
Subject: Re: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

  


Hi.  I would do this if I could figure out how to remove the case.  It feels 
like it's in 2 separate pieces.  The Verizon store put it on for me, so I never 
saw the case before it was on the phone.

  


I think I have some rice, though, so I can at least do that.

  

  


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com 

On 4/26/2021 2:05 PM, Kimberly wrote:

I would start by turning the phone off, I mean all the way off like 
power it down. Then I would take it out of the case and put it in a bag of 
uncooked rice. Leave it there overnight before you try turning it on again or 
plugging it in.



I’ve had this happened to my phone as well and it made me feel dumb 
too. But my phone was OK and I think yours will be too.



Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.





On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Lisa Belville 
   wrote:

Hi, all.  I'm so ready to kick myself.


I know the newer iPhones are water resistant, but how resistant?


I was in the kitchen cooking and had my phone on the counter so 
I could use the speaker phone.  I moved a dish towel and woops, my phone slid 
off the counter and into a full sink of soapy water.


This is an iPhone 12 Pro that has a Zag case on it with a 
tempord glass screen protector.  The case has TPU bumpers on the edges of the 
phone and a hard shell on the back and halfway up the sides of the phone.  None 
of the ports are protected like the battery charger or speakers.


I scooped the phone out of the water as soon as it happened and 
was able to continue my conversation with no sign of the phone malfunctioning.  
It seems to be Okay, except the edges of the case where the TPU touches the 
screen are damp.  The speakers sound Okay and all of the buttons are working.


Do I put it in a bag of rice or what?  Ironically, I have a day 
before I need to return it to Verizon.


How soon can I safely plug the phone into a brick charger or 
should I even try??


HTH.  And yes, I feel really dumb.  I'm going to price Otterbox cases 
now.  


Lisa


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Time to grab IOS 14.5

2021-04-26 Thread Gordon


The long wait is over, IOS 14.5 has just been released.

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Re: AppleCare+ question.

2021-04-15 Thread Gordon

It would all depend on how you pay for Apple Care. If you paid in 
advance for the service, then it would carry over until it expires at 
the end of 24 months. If you pay monthly for the service then it would 
carry over to the new device and start the 24 month cycle over again 
unless you continued to make the monthly payments on the Apple Care plan 
associated with your 10R.


On 4/15/2021 5:59 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Hello friends,

If an iPhone has AppleCare+ registered with it and it is traded in with Apple 
prior to the expiration of AppleCare+ does the remainder of the coverage 
transfer to the new device or is it cancelled?

I currently have an iPhone XR which has AppleCare+ which expires in July of 
this year.

If I was to trade it in with Apple for a new iPhone what would happen to my 
AppleCare+ on the XR would its remainder be carried over to a new device or 
would I lose it?

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Re: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

2021-04-14 Thread Gordon

Yeah the 11 has a really nice price for what's under the hood. But for 
those working under a little tighter budget, the 10R is a good value. I 
originally paid $749 for mine. But absolutely a good choice with the 11 
with the extra year of support and software updates.


On 4/14/2021 6:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I completely agree, but for anybody who likes their phones to last for as long as possible the 11 will probably offer an additional year of iOS updates and in my opinion it is always better to get a newer phone rather 

than an older one, but not necessarily the newest. I took advantage of a good 
deal through my carrier last fall and upgraded from the iPhone 8 to the iPhone 
11 and the fantastic battery life of the 11 alone made it a worthwhile upgrade.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

You could also go buy the 10R for $499 or the 11 for $599 and get the best phones Apple has ever made. My 10R turns 2 years old today and my battery health is still 91 percent. This phone has been rock solid and could 

last another two years or so. I've had the original SE, the 7, 8 and now the 
10R. Unless you just have to have 5G, consider the 10R or 11.


On 4/14/2021 6:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

And in my opinion the benefits of the Pro phones are not there for
most
blind people, the regular iPhone 11 would be your best choice if you really need to upgrade now. Once again in my opinion the 12 series of phones will be remembered as being of lesser value just like the 5, 6 and 7 phones were compared to the 5S, 6S and 8 and this year's phones in September will probably again be a much more compelling update given that most likely even the regular 13 model will have Lidar and not just the Pro phones and potentially Lidar has very big potential for apps such as Seeing AI 
and others. If you are somebody who likes to keep their phone for 3-5 years which it seems you are you will also get second generation 5G support which would be important. If you can at all stretch your original SE into 
September you really may be glad you did and if you plan to resell it checking into replacing the battery might be a good thing, it would give you 
a much better experience for these final 5 months and you would probably easily recoop the money spent on it when you sell it. As it is no longer under warranty and if you live in a larger place where third party repair 
shops exist you could inquire also with a reputable third party place as you could probably get a new battery for less than what Apple would charge. I would check into both options and then decide.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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For me, the max phones are just to large.  I want a phone that can
rest

comfortably in my hand.  I'd get a 12 pro now except that the 13 will be coming 
out soon.

On 4/13/21, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Lisa mmm difficult to say

As we are almost half April and new phones will come out in September
if I were you I would wait to buy a brand new phone now as the Iphone
13 will have better specs and at least new 5g technology on board. I
have my iphone XR now with a very large and good battery; a pro max
seems too big for me but on the other hand I understand why you want
such a phone because of the bigger and better battery.
Davy

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Belville
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 april 2021 19:58
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Onderwerp: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

Hi, all.


My poor iPhone SE is on it's last legs, bad battery, etc.  This is
the original SE purchased in the spring of 2017.  I'm looking at
either the iPhone 12 Pro or the 12 Pro Max.


I like the size of the SE 2020, but I need a good battery, and it
seems like the SE 2020 and the iPhone 12 mini fall a bit short.


What are people's experiences with the iPhone 12 Pro Max?  I know
there's no home button, but how easy is it to unlock the screen as a
totally blind person?  Was it difficult getting used to the larger screen?


TIA for the info.


Lisa


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Re: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

2021-04-14 Thread Gordon

You could also go buy the 10R for $499 or the 11 for $599 and get the 
best phones Apple has ever made. My 10R turns 2 years old today and my 
battery health is still 91 percent. This phone has been rock solid and 
could last another two years or so. I've had the original SE, the 7, 8 
and now the 10R. Unless you just have to have 5G, consider the 10R or 11.


On 4/14/2021 6:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And in my opinion the benefits of the Pro phones are not there for most 
blind people, the regular iPhone 11 would be your best choice if you really need to upgrade now. Once again in my opinion the 12 series of phones will be remembered as being of lesser value just like the 5, 6 and 7 phones were compared to the 5S, 6S and 8 and this year's phones in September will probably again be a much more compelling update given that most likely even the regular 13 model will have Lidar and not just the Pro phones and potentially Lidar has very big potential for apps such as Seeing AI and others. If you are somebody who likes to keep their phone for 3-5 years which it seems you are you will also get second generation 5G support which would be important. If you can at all stretch your original SE into September you really may be glad you did and if you plan to resell it checking into replacing the battery might be a good thing, it would give you 
a much better experience for these final 5 months and you would probably easily recoop the money spent on it when you sell it. As it is no longer under warranty and if you live in a larger place where third party repair 
shops exist you could inquire also with a reputable third party place as you could probably get a new battery for less than what Apple would charge. I would check into both options and then decide.


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Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

For me, the max phones are just to large.  I want a phone that can rest 

comfortably in my hand.  I'd get a 12 pro now except that the 13 will be coming 
out soon.


On 4/13/21, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Lisa mmm difficult to say

As we are almost half April and new phones will come out in September
if I were you I would wait to buy a brand new phone now as the Iphone
13 will have better specs and at least new 5g technology on board. I
have my iphone XR now with a very large and good battery; a pro max
seems too big for me but on the other hand I understand why you want
such a phone because of the bigger and better battery.
Davy

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Belville
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 april 2021 19:58
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Onderwerp: iPhone 12 Pro Max questions

Hi, all.


My poor iPhone SE is on it's last legs, bad battery, etc.  This is the
original SE purchased in the spring of 2017.  I'm looking at either
the iPhone 12 Pro or the 12 Pro Max.


I like the size of the SE 2020, but I need a good battery, and it
seems like the SE 2020 and the iPhone 12 mini fall a bit short.


What are people's experiences with the iPhone 12 Pro Max?  I know
there's no home button, but how easy is it to unlock the screen as a
totally blind person?  Was it difficult getting used to the larger screen?


TIA for the info.


Lisa


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Re: Official Apple Event announcement for April 20

2021-04-13 Thread Gordon

I want to come out and say that when 14.5 becomes available hopefully
next Tuesday that it's safe to get. I know that some users are Leary
about getting them in the beginning, but 14.5 is good.

On 4/13/2021 6:24 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Richard,

Thanks for this,

Interesting timing

That puts them only 6 or 7 weeks out from WWDc 21

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Apple releases IOS 14.4.2

2021-03-26 Thread Gordon

this fixes a critical security vulnerability. It must be a big one since 
IOS 14.5 is close to being released.


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Re: Strange Text Message Notification Issue

2021-03-18 Thread Gordon

This has been happening to me as of late, but mine goes a little 
further. My phone sometimes doesn't ring when a call comes in. I'll 
notice the badge telling me that I have two new items in phone which 
will be the missed call and the voice mail message they left. This has 
been happening a lot as of late. And it also happens with text messages 
as well. It seems to be the native apps and not other apps like whatsapp 
and signal. Those sounds for those apps always come through.


On 3/18/2021 2:31 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I just had my wife send me a text while listening to a book in Voice Dream 
Reader.  VoiceOver announced the text message, but there was no text sound.

Do yu have VoiceOver set to not speak notifications?




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Text Message Notification Issue

I am finding that when I am in an app that plays media, like Youtube or 
VoiceDream, and the screen is unlocked, I do not receive any notifications of 
text messages I am receiving. Is this a bug, and has anyone else encountered it?



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IOS 14.4.1 is out

2021-03-08 Thread Gordon

This is a security update which puts focus on fixing security holes 
within the web kit. So definitely one you'll all need to get. I just got 
it and all is well.


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Re: google duo question

2021-02-28 Thread Gordon


    You bet, it works just fine. Simple to use and totally free.

On 2/28/2021 1:04 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have A friend who uses an iPhone with voice and he has someone in 
his family who uses google duo.


Now can my friend put the google duo on his iPhone and use it with 
voice over?


To message and keep en-touch with the person in his family that use 
duo and if so how well does duo work with voice over for someone that 
is totally blind?


Also is it free to install and use for the iPhone?



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Re: Accessible tone generator app?

2021-01-17 Thread Gordon

I use the Sonic app to generate tones. It came in handy when I dripped 
hand sanitizer inside of my ear peace speaker by accident. I used Sonic 
to generate a low tone like the apple watch does to expel water from my 
ear peace. I dripped a little water in there to flush out the sanitizer 
and the low tone from Sonic pushed everything out. You don't want to 
attempt this on anything before the iPhone 7. The iPhone needs to have a 
water resistance. The Apple Watch does this same thing if you go under 
water with it.


On 1/17/2021 2:46 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Anna,

Just curious.  Why would someone need a tone generator?  Is a tone generator 
different from a app used to tune an instrument?

Thank you for the app recommendation.

Mark
-Original Message-
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Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 9:46 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessible tone generator app?

Hello Malcolm,

How funny that you should ask this question. I found a tone generator about 
half an hour ago. It has a slider, and there are plus and minus buttons that 
change the tone by 1 Hz. It's called Tone Generator:  Audio Sound Hz, is 
developed by TMSOFT, and is free. I believe it goes from 20 to 20,000 Hz.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 17, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Does anyone know of an accessible tone generator app where the frequency of the 
generated tone can be finely adjusted?

Thanks.

Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE: searching for a cable

2020-12-15 Thread Gordon

Yeah the first batches of the SE2020 did come with the cable and brick. 
However they announced at the September Apple event that they would only 
come with a USB type C cable from this point forward. So people who 
purchase a unit made before September could still get the charger and 
cable.

On 12/15/2020 1:33 PM, Vivian Conger wrote:

When I bought my SE2020 in late August, it came with a brick and cable.

Vivian and Sallie

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Shirley Baker

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:19 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE: 
searching for a cable

I have an iPhone 6S plus so if I want the SE20, then I need to get 
the brick and cable, right? I am not interested in any other phone but 
that one for myself.I don’t care about the 12 and all that but just 
the SE20. Does this particular phone come with the brick and cable? 
Again, I’m only interested in this one phone and not the rest.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

With the new phones you have to purchase the bricks but if you
have an existing one it should work fine with your new phone.

As for iPads, I don’t believe they have removed the power bricks yet.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Shirley Baker
*Sent:* Tuesday, 15 December 2020 1:06 pm
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE:
searching for a cable

I thought you all said you had to order any bricks or cables
separate from your phone. Excuse me if I misunderstood.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Shirley,

I don't have an Apple watch but I use three different charging
bricks for my iPhone SE 2020:

 1. The original Apple 5W charger that came with the SE.
 2. An Anker dual USB type A charger.
 3. An Anker 18W fast charger with a USB C female port.

These charge at different speeds but I've got nothing but time
on my hands so I'm happy with all of them. I do use the fast
charger if I'm in a hurry to get the highest percentage charge
most quickly before leaving the house.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE:
searching for a cable

Which brick and cable do you use with the SE20 iPhone and SE
watch?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> ?Hi Vicki and List,

>

> I'll let Malcolm explain any of the electrical nuances
regarding iDevice chargers but it feels as if a quick overview
of the connectors and cables is appropriate especially since
Apple is no longer including charging bricks with new devices.
All Apple portable devices since I believe the iPhone 5 have a
female lightning port for wired charging. Older charging
bricks provided by Apple had type A USB female ports which
were the same as USB ports on a standard computer. Therefore,
the cables provided by Apple with older iDevices had a USB
type A male connector at one end for plugging into the
charging brick and a lightning male connector at the other end
for plugging into the device. Fast chargers started being
introduced I believe with the iPhone 10. Instead of having a
USB type A female port, these chargers have a USB type C
female port. So, if you are purchasing a cable to charge an
iDevice with one of these fast chargers, it must have a USB C
male connector on one end and a male lightning connector on
the other end.

>

> Vicki, I suspect your brick with the two charging ports
contains two USB type A female ports. I have a similar charger
made by anker. I don't like making assumptions when advising
someone on what to purchase so you'll have to decide which
charging brick works best for you before cable shopping. I
personally feel having both type of cables I described above
is handy. I also think having a charger or charging brick with
both USB type A female and USB type C female ports is handy.
Anker is a great source for all cables and

Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE: searching for a cable

2020-12-15 Thread Gordon

The SE20 will come with a USB type C cable with no charging brick. You 
can purchase the 20 watt charger from Apple or probably your carrier 
when you purchase the phone. But you can also use your existing charger 
as well if you don't mind charging at regular speed. The USB type C 
cable which comes with the SE20 along with the 20 watt brick will charge 
faster.

On 12/15/2020 8:18 AM, Shirley Baker wrote:
I have an iPhone 6S plus so if I want the SE20, then I need to get 
the brick and cable, right? I am not interested in any other phone but 
that one for myself.I don’t care about the 12 and all that but just 
the SE20. Does this particular phone come with the brick and cable? 
Again, I’m only interested in this one phone and not the rest.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty  
wrote:

With the new phones you have to purchase the bricks but if you have 
an existing one it should work fine with your new phone.

As for iPads, I don’t believe they have removed the power bricks yet.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Shirley Baker

*Sent:* Tuesday, 15 December 2020 1:06 pm
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE: 
searching for a cable

I thought you all said you had to order any bricks or cables separate 
from your phone. Excuse me if I misunderstood.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Shirley,

I don't have an Apple watch but I use three different charging
bricks for my iPhone SE 2020:

 1. The original Apple 5W charger that came with the SE.
 2. An Anker dual USB type A charger.
 3. An Anker 18W fast charger with a USB C female port.

These charge at different speeds but I've got nothing but time on
my hands so I'm happy with all of them. I do use the fast charger
if I'm in a hurry to get the highest percentage charge most
quickly before leaving the house.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of Shirley Baker
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE:
searching for a cable

Which brick and cable do you use with the SE20 iPhone and SE watch?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> ?Hi Vicki and List,

>

> I'll let Malcolm explain any of the electrical nuances
regarding iDevice chargers but it feels as if a quick overview of
the connectors and cables is appropriate especially since Apple
is no longer including charging bricks with new devices. All
Apple portable devices since I believe the iPhone 5 have a female
lightning port for wired charging. Older charging bricks provided
by Apple had type A USB female ports which were the same as USB
ports on a standard computer. Therefore, the cables provided by
Apple with older iDevices had a USB type A male connector at one
end for plugging into the charging brick and a lightning male
connector at the other end for plugging into the device. Fast
chargers started being introduced I believe with the iPhone 10.
Instead of having a USB type A female port, these chargers have a
USB type C female port. So, if you are purchasing a cable to
charge an iDevice with one of these fast chargers, it must have a
USB C male connector on one end and a male lightning connector on
the other end.

>

> Vicki, I suspect your brick with the two charging ports
contains two USB type A female ports. I have a similar charger
made by anker. I don't like making assumptions when advising
someone on what to purchase so you'll have to decide which
charging brick works best for you before cable shopping. I
personally feel having both type of cables I described above is
handy. I also think having a charger or charging brick with both
USB type A female and USB type C female ports is handy. Anker is
a great source for all cables and chargers in my opinion but make
sure you always get the MFI (made for iPhone) certified ones.

>

> Amazon has the Anker 6ft Premium Double-Braided Nylon Lightning
Cable, Apple MFi Certified for iPhone Chargers, iPhone X/8/8
Plus/7/7 Plus/6/6 Plus/5s, iPad Pro Air 2, and More(Black) which
is rated 4.7 stars and cost $14.99 available at this site:

>

>
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Premium-Lightning-Certified-Chargers/dp/B

>
078NR6ZK3/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1=Anker%2Blightning%2Bcable%2B6%

> 2Bfeet=1607960953=electronics=1-10=1

>

>

Re: How do you turn down the tone that plays when you activate dictation or Siri on an iPhone 11

2020-11-25 Thread Gordon

Ask Siri a question. As it's answering, use your side volume buttons to 
adjust the volume where you want it.


On 11/25/2020 5:46 AM, Jen . wrote:

Hi I forget how to turn down the tone that plays when you activate Siri or 
dictation for an iPhone 11.
Thanks.
Jen



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Re: iOS 14.2 won't download & install on iPad Air 2 Ca 2014

2020-11-21 Thread Gordon

Have you checked your storage to see if you have enough to accommodate 
the update/


On 11/21/2020 2:25 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it 
charged to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and 
then says that an error occurred during the download.  My wife has 
done some reading and says that one of the reasons might be that there 
is a partial copy of this OS somewhere and that I should remove this 
before attempting the download again.  Pam can't find it anywhere and 
we don't know what to do.  I'm assuming that if the hardware didn't 
support the OS, I wouldn't be given the message to try downloading and 
installing it.  the machine works fine.  but I'd like to update the OS 
if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited iCloud and signed 
back in without any change to the download problem.  I've tried this 
on several different days to allow for extreme traffic downloading the 
update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?

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Re: A Bluetooth speaker that I don't recommend is the Polaroid PBT 530

2020-11-13 Thread Gordon

the Anker life core q10 is one of the best sounding bluetooth headphones 
I've ever had for the money. They are big bulky over the ear head 
phones, but you'll get 60 hours of listening and the base is incredible. 
You can pick them up on Amazon for around $40 I believe. they seem to 
always be running a special where you can grab them for around $30.


On 11/13/2020 5:44 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I have two pair of wired headphones from Koss, and they're among my favorites. 
They've been durable for me, they're both super comfortable and the sound is 
good. I find them to be a good headphone for the money. They also have a 
lifetime warranty on most of their products. 
https://www.koss.com/blog/always-check-the-warranty/

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Bluetooth speaker that I don't recommend is the Polaroid PBT 530

Steve, how can you like koss headphones?  I had a couple pairs of koss
headphones and they were complete junk.  I had them in a protective case and
was very careful how I used them.  What happened to both pairs, was the
headband which went over my head cracked without warning.  I never dropped
these headphones and was very careful with them.  I treat all my headphones
with care and I have cases for as many pairs as I can.

On 11/12/20, Steve Matzura  wrote:

This may be off-topic, but you mentioned you have this speaker paired
to your Fire TV. I have understood that the Fire TV doesn't output via
Bluetooth, only input, like from a keyboard or game controller. I have
a wonderful pair of Koss Bluetooth headphone that I'd love to use with
my Fire TV. How do I do this, and if I use the headphone, does that
shut the speakers off? In other words, can I have them both simultaneously?
Once again, if this is off-topic, Kevin, write me off-list.


On 11/11/2020 2:41 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

I purchased this speaker originally for my PC, but it still exhibits
the same annoying behavior on other devices. What it does is
gradually increase its volume to what you have the knob set at,
rather than being at that volume. This happens every time there is no
sound playing through, then starts playing a sound. If, like me,
you’re a Voiceover user, this presents a problem. I current have this
speaker paired to my Fire TV in the living room, so usually there’s
sound of some sort coming through it.

Just to let folks know. As the saying goes, “You get what you pay
for,” and in this case it’s true.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

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Re: Question About Adding SiriusXM to IOS Devices

2020-11-09 Thread Gordon

Yes you can add it to your iPad, but I believe that you can only stream on one 
device at a time.

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IOS 14.2 is out

2020-11-05 Thread Gordon


It's out and offers speed and some fixes.

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Re: New Charger From Anker for My iPhone8 &5s?

2020-11-04 Thread Gordon

Actually I had the same exact issue with an Anker charger. I tested it 
several times to see if it was in my head, but it wasn't. the battery 
lasted longer when using the Apple brick charger. My battery health 
degraded faster when using the Anker charger as well. I tested this over 
several months to make sure I was getting accurate results.


On 11/4/2020 10:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


How your battery drains has nothing to do with the charger.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Fazil

*Sent:* Tuesday, November 3, 2020 8:08 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* New Charger From Anker for My iPhone8 &5s?

Hi, Group.

I purchased a new charger from Amazon by Anker.

I noticed that the phones charge relatively fast but the batteries 
drain quickly too. Is this normal behavior?


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Re: A new iOS update is now available. Please update from the iOS 14 beta.

2020-10-30 Thread Gordon

Yes, this is a known issue and there's a lot of talk about it if you Google it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> Recently I have had a notification that says A new iOS update is now 
> available. Please update from the iOS 14 beta. I have the beta profile 
> installed and have uninstalled it.  However, I receive this notification 
> repeatedly.
> 
> With the beta profile removed and the device restarted I check for updates 
> and I’m told my software is up to date.
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> Has anyone else experienced this and have you managed to suppress this 
> notification?  Thanks.
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Re: iPhone Alarm?

2020-10-25 Thread Gordon

It will go off at the first 1:30 since that's the true 1:30 for that 
date and time.


On 10/25/2020 10:24 PM, Fazil wrote:


Hi, Group.

I set my iPhone alarm for 1:30 AM twice a week.

On Sunday when the Day-Light-Saving Time would and and the clocks 
would be set behind by an hour, what time my alarm would go off?


My understanding, (please correct me if I am wrong),  is that the 
clocks are put behind at 2 O’clock, my question is whether my alarm 
would go off at first 1:30 or at second 1:30?


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IOS 14.1 is out

2020-10-20 Thread Gordon

I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might have 
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Re: What Apple didn't tell us: Spotty 5G, Mini larger than SE, pricey Max, USA Today

2020-10-14 Thread Gordon

I will tell you that the 10R is the most solid phone I've ever owned all 
around. So if you want a larger screen than what the SE has to offer, 
don't throw in the towel until you take a good look at this phone. 
Battery life is awesome, and it's only $499.


On 10/14/2020 8:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

What Apple didn't tell you about the new iPhones
By Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY

The late Steve Jobs was known for engaging in a "reality distortion field"
when launching new projects that perhaps didn't tell the whole story.

On Tuesday, Apple did a masterful job at its big reveal event of hyping its
lineup of four new iPhones that, on the face of it, will have faster
processors, improved camera features and connect to the new 5G wireless
standard. In addition to starting out with a new HomePod mini, Apple
unveiled an iPhone 12, iPhone 12 Mini, iPhone 12 Pro and the iPhone Pro Max,
ranging in price from starting at $699 on up to starting at $1,099.  We got
the super detailed information on the processors, lenses and intuitive
technology that makes it all work.
But what didn't Apple tell us? Well, a lot.

5G is here, but only sort of.
Apple touted 5G on iPhone as enabling faster game play, movies that would
load faster and apps that would zip along. And it brought the CEO of Verizon
onto the stage to hype 5G as well.

But good luck finding the 5G Apple and Verizon sold.  ("We believe it will
take carriers years to build a compelling 5G infrastructure," noted analyst
and investor Gene Munster of Loup Ventures.)
What Verizon calls its 5G Ultra Wideband is in just 50 cities now and will
increase to 60 by the end of the year. But the coverage is spotty, it works
in certain areas of the city only and is unavailable in some major places,
like Maine, Vermont, Louisiana, Alabama and North Dakota.

The 5G offered by T-Mobile and AT is more widespread but not currently
much faster than 4G. Verizon on Tuesday unveiled a new, slower 5G, similar
to what AT and T-Mobile have that it says is available to 200 million
customers. Munster added that Verizon's touted speeds on the Apple
presentation "are only available to about 1% of the U.S. population today."

The latest:Apple unveils iPhone 12 models starting at $699, and HomePod Mini
speaker

No jacks:  Apple's new iPhone 12, iPhone 12 Pro models will come without
charger and headphones

That new iPhone could cost you at check out.
The iPhone 12 doesn't sound that steep at $799. But if you decide to spring
for extra storage and Apple Care, as many do, that will bring it to $1,298,
before tax. Then add the new MagSafe wireless charger and new case, and
you're looking at $1,398. Which could be a bargain compared to the $1,768
for the top-of-the-line maxed out iPhone 12 Pro Max, which starts at $1,099,
before the extra storage, warranty and accessories.

The Mini is the smallest iPhone. Again sort of.
Of the new iPhones, the Mini clocks in with a 5.4-inch screen, smaller than
the 6.1-inch screen of the iPhone 12 and 12 Pro, or 6.7-inch iPhone 12 Pro
Max. The SE, which happens to be the lowest-priced iPhone, at $399, has a
4.7-inch screen. Now that's a mini, compared to the others. What the SE
doesn't have is an edge to edge screen, like the Mini. he Mini is physically
smaller in body size. Mini: Height (5.18 inches) Width (2.53) and Depth:
(0.29) SE: Height (5.45) Width (2.65) and Depth (0.29)

The iPhone 12 doesn't have the highest resolution screen
The Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra touts 3200x1440 resolution, versus 2778x1284
for the iPhone 12 Pro Max.

What is that 'ceramic shield'?
Apple says the new glass from Corning, the same company that has been
providing the Gorilla Glass screens that so many people have cracked over
the years, is "tougher" than any smartphone glass. Corning also makes the
screens for Galaxy phones and other smartphone makers, which Apple didn't
mention. And how is this new glass four times less likely to crack, as Apple
claimed? Did the company have drop parties to test it? Did it break 4 times
out of 10? And did it compare it to phones from other manufacturers? Not
exactly. Apple says it compared it to the previous iPhone.

You can shoot video in higher resolution Dolby Vision
Oh but what an asterisk! Yes, you can get brighter colors and sharpness from
Dolby Vision, a feature seen on many TVs for more lifelike color and sound.
But don't expect to share the videos on social media. The video files will
be in a different format than what's supported on Facebook and Twitter. Best
practice: sharing them from phone to phone, or using the AirPlay feature to
beam the video from your phone to the TV could be your best shot, for now.

The iPhone 12 is a brand new design, when in fact, it looks like an iPhone
5.
The iPhone 5 is from 2012, the last phone from the Steve Jobs era, released
a year after his 2011 death. Well, all that's really similar is the side of
the phone, but that didn't stop wags from having a field day on Twitter.
Jason Calacanis called the 12 a

Re: But All I Wanted was Touch ID

2020-10-14 Thread Gordon

they have made mention of an SE3 coming early next year which would 
feature a 6.1 inch screen and retain the touch ID. I can't imagine how 
large the phone would be since there's going to be a home button, but 
probably the same size at the pro max.


On 10/14/2020 8:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Well, I was wrong.  I truly thought that Apple would include a fingerprint
sensor on at least one of its devices in the iPhone 12 series.

I watched the entire presentation and could not help thinking, at its
conclusion, "But all I wanted was Touch ID."

I am so disappointed.  It's almost enough to make me leave the Apple
orchard; but not quite.

You know, I wouldn't have found the lack of a fingerprint sensor on the new
iPhone 12 series so startlingly disappointing if I were not using a
fantastic in-screen fingerprint reader on my Samsung Galaxy phone, every
single day.  I mean, to my mind, if Samsung can do it, and do it extremely
well, I might add, then why not Apple?

Regardless, the proverbial seeds for this year's crop have been sewn and we
must reap, what we must.

I definitely see a new battery for my beloved 8 Plus in my near future.

I don't know, I may grab an S E but will attempt to hold onto my beloved 8
Plus for a little longer.

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Re: Review iPhone 12 series☺️

2020-10-14 Thread Gordon


It would be nice if T-mobile does something special like that.

On 10/14/2020 8:45 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

For those looking to upgrade to the new phones, I found some
aggressive pricing from AT and Verizon mentioned in the Apple Store
app, like an $800 credit from AT They really want to get everyone
on 5G, and same from Verizon it looks like. I wasn't planning on
getting one, but this may change my mind. I've never heard of major
carriers practically giving away the new iPhone before.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/13/20, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

I always go for the iPhone with the latest processor so I have the
maximum available iOS updates.  I like the possibility of wireless
charging. If I git a 12 it will be the mini. I like a smaller size for
easy one-handed use, and I have no need for the camera system on the
pro.

On 10/13/20, Darshan Beniwal  wrote:

Hi iPhone fans

How did you find iPhone 12 series? Any recommendation or suggestion about
that. I'm planning to buy new iPhone. Is it a good choice to buy iPhone
12
or shall I go for its down versions?

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Re: Voice Over And Twitter App

2020-10-08 Thread Gordon

I'm not sure if it's in 14.0.1, but you can add image description to the 
rotor in 14.2. So that option might actually be available in the public 
version of 14.0.1.


On 10/8/2020 7:53 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:

Hi Joy,

Unfortunately, there is no way to turn off emojis for just one app; 
however, you can turn them off totally by going to settings, 
accessibility, VoiceOver, Verbosity and then turn speak emojis off.


Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Joy Cyr  wrote:


Good evening,
Does anyone know if there is a way to prevent voice over from 
naming/describing the symbols/emojis while using the twitter app? 
 Having to have the coloured hearts, flowers, hands, etc., etc. read 
out gets very tiresome very quickly.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Joy

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Re: How do you power off an iPhone 11

2020-10-07 Thread Gordon

You can also hold down one of the volume buttons and the side button at 
the same time for about a second and that will bring up the power off 
option or the emergency SOS button to call emergency services. If you 
hold the two down for about 5 seconds, I believe that will call 911. So 
be sure to hold them down for about a second to get the power off option.

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Hello,
You need to press the up volume, then press the down volume and last press and 
hold the side button. This will bring up the power off button on the screen 
that you then double tap to turn off the phone.

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Hi just wondering how you power off an iPhone 11 since I tried holding down the 
side button and it didn’t work only activated Siri.
Jen

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Re: I can get an iPhone 7 for $199.00!

2020-10-01 Thread Gordon

I know a lot of the MVNO companies like strait talk and Cricket wireless 
are still trying to unload the 7 for around $150 to $199. But 
occasionally they will run a deal where you can pick it up for $99. I 
think that Boost Mobile has that deal going right now. If you're on a 
budget and can find such a deal, it might be ok, for now, but the SE2020 
is the best deal at the moment for a new phone that you're expecting 
several years out of.


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David:
I will agree with the previous answers. Wait til you can afford an 
iPhone 2020.  They start at $399 and have the latest processor.

I got one a few months back and just love it.
The gestures you have studied will serve you well.
$200 is more than you should pay for a seven.
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Re: I can get an iPhone 7 for $199.00!

2020-10-01 Thread Gordon

If it's a new 7, the battery could already be shot from sitting on the
shelf for the past four years.

On 10/1/2020 7:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I agree with Gordon. I would not pay $200 for what will be a
four-year-old phone this fall. Save up for the SE 2020 if you can. I
would want to know about the battery. Has it ever been replaced? If
not, if the phone has been used over time, the batteries probably not
very good. If this is from a private party, unless you really know
them, I wouldn’t do it, and I wouldn’t do it for $200 in any case. My
7+ is running iOS 14 beta actually, and it’s fine. You could maybe get
another year, but you don’t know. So in any case, at the very least,
try to get the price down and make sure what the battery situation is.

Sent from my iPhone

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I see iPhone 7's all over the place for $99 these days. I personally
wouldn't pay $200 myself. yes you can set it up with no sighted
assistance. Just press the home button three times once the phone
starts and voice over will come up. If I was doing this I would save
up and buy the new SE2020 that just came out. The iPhone 7 will run
IOS 14, but I doubt that it will get anymore updates past that point.
If you're on a budget, look for a cheaper iPhone 7.

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Hey guys!

I am currently an Android user, but Traci and I need to change to a
better phone to keep using our Family Mobile phone plan through Walmart!

I use cheap Android phones over our wifi like tablets!

So, First of all!

Question 1

Can I set up an iPhone totally by myself.

With Android, I can press the power button, and put two fingers on
the screen and Talk Back asks me if I want to turn it on.

Does the iPhone let you turn on Voice Over in that manner, or is
there some other way to turn on Voice over when taking the phone
right out of the box?

Can I totally get the phone set up without any sighted help?

I have heard something about an apple
ID or something, and can I do all of that without any sighted
assistance?

Question 2

How do you guys feel about me getting an iPhone 7!

Is this a late enough phone to get IOS updates!

Question 3

The phone for $199.00 comes with IOS 11.

What do you think?

Question 4

I know a lot of gestures for the iPhone by studying the Hadley videos!

How up to date are those videos, and what Gestures are new that I
might need to know that are not in those videos.

I have the basic multi-fingered gestures down cold by listening to
those videos!

This will be the first time I will be using a smart phone as an
actual phone where I will have to answer calls, make them and so on!

Thanks guys for any suggestions you can give me, and would this
iPhone 7 be a good purchase for $199.00 LOL!

Hope and excited to hear from you all!

I have learned a lot from you all in case I get an iPhone, and this
might be the time to get one!

David Moore

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Re: I can get an iPhone 7 for $199.00!

2020-10-01 Thread Gordon

I see iPhone 7's all over the place for $99 these days. I personally 
wouldn't pay $200 myself. yes you can set it up with no sighted 
assistance. Just press the home button three times once the phone starts 
and voice over will come up. If I was doing this I would save up and buy 
the new SE2020 that just came out. The iPhone 7 will run IOS 14, but I 
doubt that it will get anymore updates past that point. If you're on a 
budget, look for a cheaper iPhone 7.


On 10/1/2020 6:55 PM, David Moore wrote:


Hey guys!

I am currently an Android user, but Traci and I need to change to a 
better phone to keep using our Family Mobile phone plan through Walmart!


I use cheap Android phones over our wifi like tablets!

So, First of all!

Question 1

Can I set up an iPhone totally by myself.

With Android, I can press the power button, and put two fingers on the 
screen and Talk Back asks me if I want to turn it on.


Does the iPhone let you turn on Voice Over in that manner, or is there 
some other way to turn on Voice over when taking the phone right out 
of the box?


Can I totally get the phone set up without any sighted help?

I have heard something about an apple
ID or something, and can I do all of that without any sighted assistance?

Question 2

How do you guys feel about me getting an iPhone 7!

Is this a late enough phone to get IOS updates!

Question 3

The phone for $199.00 comes with IOS 11.

What do you think?

Question 4

I know a lot of gestures for the iPhone by studying the Hadley videos!

How up to date are those videos, and what Gestures are new that I 
might need to know that are not in those videos.


I have the basic multi-fingered gestures down cold by listening to 
those videos!


This will be the first time I will be using a smart phone as an actual 
phone where I will have to answer calls, make them and so on!


Thanks guys for any suggestions you can give me, and would this iPhone 
7 be a good purchase for $199.00 LOL!


Hope and excited to hear from you all!

I have learned a lot from you all in case I get an iPhone, and this 
might be the time to get one!


David Moore

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Re: iPhone se has stopped talking

2020-09-28 Thread Gordon

You're very welcome. Yeah I've saved the day for many people over the
past few years. I don't know why 0 volume is no speech. If you use Alex
he's really low, but you can still hear him. But all other voices are
silent.

On 9/28/2020 9:12 PM, Janet Bell wrote:
Hi Gordon you are a star. it must be the only tnhing I didn’t think
of. thanks very much gratefully Janet

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First: try the up volume button on the side. If that doesn't work,
there's a chance you could have accidentally turned the volume down in
the rotor. Turn the rotor and flick up once each time you turn it. If
that rotor volume is set to 0, you wont have speech unless you're
using Alex for some reason. If the rotor volume is all the way down
you'll eventually get speech when turning it and flicking up once for
each time you turn it. A lot of people have done this before by mistake.

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Morning, please can someone suggest what I should do. My iPhone SE
20 has just suddenly stopped talking. I have asked Siri to turn
voiceover off and on again but still absolutely nothing. I can find
out what it says because I can read the braille display. it is not
even clicking as it goes. any help would be appreciated. Janet

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Re: iPhone se has stopped talking

2020-09-28 Thread Gordon

First: try the up volume button on the side. If that doesn't work, 
there's a chance you could have accidentally turned the volume down in 
the rotor. Turn the rotor and flick up once each time you turn it. If 
that rotor volume is set to 0, you wont have speech unless you're using 
Alex for some reason. If the rotor volume is all the way down you'll 
eventually get speech when turning it and flicking up once for each time 
you turn it. A lot of people have done this before by mistake.


On 9/28/2020 8:40 PM, Janet Bell wrote:
Morning, please can someone suggest what I should do.  My iPhone SE 20 
has just suddenly stopped talking.  I have asked Siri to turn 
voiceover off and on again but still absolutely nothing.  I can find 
out what it says because I can read the braille display.  it is not 
even clicking as it goes.  any help would be appreciated.  Janet

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IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-24 Thread Gordon

this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO 
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Re: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

2020-09-22 Thread Gordon

Yes if you have an Alexa, you can say "play Dallas Cowboys Sirius XM" or
whatever your team is. You will need the premier streaming package to do
this. If you have a radio I think you already have this package. So you
would just enable the skill on your Alexa or use the app on your phone.

On 9/22/2020 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

The article said, as of September 22nd. So, that would be now, right?

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Not to write short messages, but this is totally awesome!!! Perhaps a
dumb question, but is this change effective immediately? If so, I can
change my subscription to go back to the Premier Streaming plan, and
save some money from the more expensive All Access package. All I
really wanted from Sirius anyway were their music channels and the
NFL. I don't really care about other sports all that much. Wow, this
is cool!

Wayne

On 9/22/20, Gordon wrote:

I know you'll love this.
http://www.insideradio.com/free/siriusxm-streaming-only-subscribers-now-able-to-access-nfl-game-day-broadcasts/article_6f0dc69a-fd10-11ea-8a06-f77c15711f76.html

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Good news for Sirius XM football fans

2020-09-22 Thread Gordon

I know you'll love this. 
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First app to offer stereo recording

2020-09-20 Thread Gordon

So Apple announced several months ago that they would be allowing stereo 
recording in IOS 14 giving app developers access to both mics. The 
ferite Studio app is the first that I've found to take advantage of that 
opportunity. You can get it for free and use it to make recordings under 
10 minutes I think. they do have premium offerings, but you don't need 
those to make stereo recordings. I'm expecting other apps to offer this 
soon like HQ recorder which is the one I use. The audio quality is 
really good, so if this is something you're interested in, go give it a 
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Re: iPhone SE 2020 successfully recovered and restored

2020-09-19 Thread Gordon

Glad to hear that you got everything back. I had something similar back 
in 2017 and I wasn't as lucky as you were. But fortunately T-mobile did 
a warranty exchange and I was only down for one day. But I definitely 
know how that feels. I posted here on the group about how to help with 
the VO lag a little.


On 9/20/2020 12:12 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


Hi List,

I want to thank those who posted well wishes and instructions for 
recovering my iPhone SE after a failed attempt to restore last night's 
encrypted iTunes backup following a reset of all settings as directed 
by Apple Accessibility. I spoke to another Apple Accessibility person 
named Patricia who was very helpful. She directed me to start iTunes 
on my computer and with the phone disconnected, to press volume up, 
volume down, and then hold the side power button and connect the phone 
to the computer with its lightning cable while continuing to hold down 
the power button. This put the phone in recovery mode. iTunes prompted 
me to either update or restore the phone. I attempted the update at 
first but this was a no go because my iPhone screen kept displaying 
the Apple logo appearing and disappearing for a few seconds at a time. 
After the update failed, I got into recovery mode again and did a 
restore which worked to reset my iPhone just as it was when it arrived 
new. I was then able to restore last night's backup when prompted to 
either start using it as a new phone or to restore a backup. This 
restoration took a bit over an hour and all my apps had to re-download 
again but I got all my settings back including everything that was 
reset when directed by Willard at Apple Accessibility. I have no clue 
what caused the phone to hang as it did during my first restore but 
I'm very glad I got everything back. I'll chalk this up to a learning 
experience.


I just want to encourage everyone who is planning on doing an iOS 
upgrade, especially a major one such as with iOS 14, to backup your 
device before doing so. You never know what might happen during the 
upgrade and having to start over fresh can be most time consuming.


Alan Lemly

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Reducing VO lag in IOS 14

2020-09-19 Thread Gordon

So there is a temporary fix that helps minimize the voice over lag 
you'll experience in IOS 14, and this is really simple and easy. You 
simply add a second language to your rotor and switch to it. I just 
added English Samantha like I use for the default. When you switch to it 
in the rotor, the lag is gone. So here's how to do this for those who 
want to know. Head over to settings, accessibility. Then go to voice 
over and go to speech. Find add rotor language and select your desired 
language. Then you can select the voice you wish to use. Once you have 
it set up, turn the rotor until you get to language and flick up or down 
to switch to it. So basically when you switch from your default language 
in the rotor the lag is substantially reduced. Some of you probably have 
this already set up if you like to switch voices on the fly. So just 
switch from your default language and see if you notice the difference. 
If you don't see a difference, remove the second rotor language and redo 
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Re: Caution against following advice to reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility

2020-09-19 Thread Gordon

If all else fails, try this. connect your phone to iTunes and then put 
it into DFU mode. This will give you feedback from your screen reader 
and you'll know if iTunes is still seeing the phone. Be sure to choose 
the update and restore button instead of just restore. I think you have 
to hit the first restore button to get that second update and restore 
button to come up. This will give you a clean install just in case 
something went wrong some where. Then maybe you can update from iCloud 
to get some of your settings back.


On 9/19/2020 8:25 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:


Gordon,

Yes, I also did an iCloud backup before upgrading to iOS 14. I didn't 
expect my restoration of my encrypted iTunes backup to bring back iOS 
13.7. I just wanted to get all my settings back with iOS 14 which is 
what usually happens when you do an iTunes restore. However, my iPhone 
just has a Apple logo on it which appears for a few seconds then 
disappears and then repeats. I'll try to do a recovery with iTunes 
again before going to the Apple Store.


Alan

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reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility


You're encrypted backup isn't going to work since it's a 13.7 backup 
and your phone is running 14. If you're lucky your phone might just be 
stuck in recovery mode and didn't actually try to downgrade back to 
13.7 which I'm not sure if Apple is still signing that anymore. Do 
some google searches on ways to get your iPhone out of recovery mode 
to see if any of those suggestions will work. Maybe you'll get lucky 
and it will boot up in IOS 14 and you'll just have to set up as a new 
phone. Do you backup to iCloud as well? If so, you might be able to 
restore from that.


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Hello List,

I want to caution others from avoiding the problem I'm
experiencing after calling Apple Accessibility to report an issue
I was having with iOS 14. I was checking out the setting under my
name/Apple ID and when I opened Media and purchases, I noticed
that when swiping through the various controls to check out the
screen that focus kept jumping back to the Apple ID control in the
upper left of the screen. This was some major jumping and occurred
on several controls on that screen. Trying to be a good citizen, I
called Apple Accessibility to report the issue. I spoke with
someone named Willard who was nice enough but who suggested I
reset all my settings to factory defaults. I argued with him that
I had a lot of custom settings and wasn't comfortable doing that
but he said it was the first suggestion they gave after getting
contacted about problems following an iOS upgrade. Against my
better judgment, I reset all my settings. Here are some of the
things that were reset that will prevent me from ever doing that
again:

1.All my Apple cash credit cards were removed.

2.My Touch ID was reset.

3.The accessibility setting for Voiceover with the home button was
reset.

4.All my custom keyboards were removed.

5.My keyboard settings were changed from Touch typing to standard
typing.

6.My default ringtone was reset.

7.The background color of my home screen was reset from a sea
green to something that appears to be sort of a red orange color.

8.Other custom settings I had made were reset that I can't recall.

I was able to puzzle out and reset most of the settings but could
never figure out how to reset the background color of my home
screen. I looked under display and screen settings and under
Wallpaper but found nothing. I then decided to restore my
encrypted backup I made with iTunes before upgrading to iOS 14.
That took over an hour and now all my phone does is that the Apple
logo appears on a black screen as it used to when doing a hard
reset but it appears for a few seconds and then disappears and
then reappears again. The phone which is an SE 2020 will not
restart and is no longer recognized when I plug it to the
lightning cable and open iTunes.

So the moral of this story is if you have an iOS 14 issue to
report to Apple Accessibility, don't let them convince you to
reset your settings. I've never had a problem with restoration of
an iTunes encrypted backup before but I guess my phone is out of
commission until I get to an Apple Store.

I did upgrade iTunes to its latest version before backing up
before upgrading to iOS 14. If anyone has any recommendations to
try, I'd truly welcome them because I need my phone before I'll be
able to get to an Apple Store.

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Re: trouble turning Iphone SE on

2020-09-19 Thread Gordon

If it doesn't come up talking right away, press the home button and it 
should ask for your password if the phone is up and running.


On 9/19/2020 8:11 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


First, the SE phones have no number other than maybe 2^nd generation 
or 2020.


ON mine, I did the counting seconds with 1 one thousband, two one 
thousand, and 6 seems to be a pretty good bet for then waiting a 
minute for it to come up talking.


Richard

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extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


*From:* 'cwc' via VIPhone 
*Sent:* Saturday, September 19, 2020 5:38 PM
*To:* VIPhone 
*Subject:* trouble turning Iphone SE on

I am having trouble getting my Iphone  8SE to start. I don’t know how 
long to hold the on/off button to get it to start. I am a total, and I 
cannot tell when the screen llights. Up.


I dread having to turn it off.

Also, what was the command for a reboot?

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Re: Caution against following advice to reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility

2020-09-19 Thread Gordon

I'm going to recommend that people who haven't upgraded to 14 not do so
just yet. It's not going to break your phone, but there are some huge
headaches you'll encounter with IOS 14. The one good thing about Apple
is that they usually get on this stuff pretty fast and start pushing out
fixes for it. So you'll be able to get 14 in a few weeks and have a much
better experience than others.

On 9/19/2020 6:34 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

And I forgot to mention that the problem with focus jumping all over
the Media and purchases screen was still present after resetting all
of my settings.

Alan

Hello List,

I want to caution others from avoiding the problem I'm experiencing
after calling Apple Accessibility to report an issue I was having with
iOS 14. I was checking out the setting under my name/Apple ID and when
I opened Media and purchases, I noticed that when swiping through the
various controls to check out the screen that focus kept jumping back
to the Apple ID control in the upper left of the screen. This was some
major jumping and occurred on several controls on that screen. Trying
to be a good citizen, I called Apple Accessibility to report the
issue. I spoke with someone named Willard who was nice enough but who
suggested I reset all my settings to factory defaults. I argued with
him that I had a lot of custom settings and wasn't comfortable doing
that but he said it was the first suggestion they gave after getting
contacted about problems following an iOS upgrade. Against my better
judgment, I reset all my settings. Here are some of the things that
were reset that will prevent me from ever doing that again:

1.All my Apple cash credit cards were removed.

2.My Touch ID was reset.

3.The accessibility setting for Voiceover with the home button was reset.

4.All my custom keyboards were removed.

5.My keyboard settings were changed from Touch typing to standard typing.

6.My default ringtone was reset.

7.The background color of my home screen was reset from a sea green to
something that appears to be sort of a red orange color.

8.Other custom settings I had made were reset that I can't recall.

I was able to puzzle out and reset most of the settings but could
never figure out how to reset the background color of my home screen.
I looked under display and screen settings and under Wallpaper but
found nothing. I then decided to restore my encrypted backup I made
with iTunes before upgrading to iOS 14. That took over an hour and now
all my phone does is that the Apple logo appears on a black screen as
it used to when doing a hard reset but it appears for a few seconds
and then disappears and then reappears again. The phone which is an SE
2020 will not restart and is no longer recognized when I plug it to
the lightning cable and open iTunes.

So the moral of this story is if you have an iOS 14 issue to report to
Apple Accessibility, don't let them convince you to reset your
settings. I've never had a problem with restoration of an iTunes
encrypted backup before but I guess my phone is out of commission
until I get to an Apple Store.

I did upgrade iTunes to its latest version before backing up before
upgrading to iOS 14. If anyone has any recommendations to try, I'd
truly welcome them because I need my phone before I'll be able to get
to an Apple Store.

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Re: Caution against following advice to reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility

2020-09-19 Thread Gordon

You're encrypted backup isn't going to work since it's a 13.7 backup and
your phone is running 14. If you're lucky your phone might just be stuck
in recovery mode and didn't actually try to downgrade back to 13.7 which
I'm not sure if Apple is still signing that anymore. Do some google
searches on ways to get your iPhone out of recovery mode to see if any
of those suggestions will work. Maybe you'll get lucky and it will boot
up in IOS 14 and you'll just have to set up as a new phone. Do you
backup to iCloud as well? If so, you might be able to restore from that.

On 9/19/2020 6:26 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hello List,

1.All my Apple cash credit cards were removed.

2.My Touch ID was reset.

3.The accessibility setting for Voiceover with the home button was reset.

4.All my custom keyboards were removed.

5.My keyboard settings were changed from Touch typing to standard typing.

6.My default ringtone was reset.

7.The background color of my home screen was reset from a sea green to
something that appears to be sort of a red orange color.

8.Other custom settings I had made were reset that I can't recall.

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Re: help please trouble with iOS update

2020-09-16 Thread Gordon

So what exactly happened? Did the phone shut down after installing the 
update and just never came back up? Do you have someone sighted to look 
at the screen to see if it's saying anything?


On 9/16/2020 7:55 PM, 'A Robledo' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello list,

Please help. I tried to do the update and the phone has been updating for about 
five hours. Don’t know what to do.



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Re: iOS14 not launched today?

2020-09-16 Thread Gordon

It would make sense not to launch it today based on Apple's way of 
handling this for years. They've always launched gold master to the 
public beta testers and developers within hours after the event ends and 
then the public launch a week later which would be this coming Tuesday. 
I was a bit surprised when they announced that it would launch to the 
public today.


On 9/16/2020 10:43 AM, Matthew Bullis wrote:

It also may take time to be distributed around the world, so you may not see it 
right away. I tend to wait a couple of days anyway, to read about it, and also 
give time for the flurry of downloads to subside.
Matthew


On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Time will tell.
Apple likes to release things and hold events at 10 AM Pacific time, so if it 
isn't released shortly after that, then I'd be looking for an announcement from 
Apple.
The Applevis blog has already posted their iOS 14 summary and list of bugs for 
VoiceOver users.
Read it here:
https://www.applevis.com/blog/what-s-new-ios-14-and-ipados-14-blind-and-deaf-blind-users



Richard
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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 7:57 AM
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Subject: iOS14 not launched today?

How trustworthy is "Apple Insider"? I just got a tweet a₣a few minutes ago, 
that iOS14 isn't going to be launched until Tuesday? According to the article, some devs 
seem not to be too happy with Apple's one--day notice between the Golden Master, and 
launching right the next day, the official rebbease of iOS14. Can you guys confirm this 
info?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



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Re: How does the new IOS 14 work with VO

2020-09-15 Thread Gordon

Beta testers now have gold master. Under normal circumstances Apple will 
release gold master shortly after the event ends and public the 
following week. So tomorrow the public gets what beta testers got today.


On 9/15/2020 9:30 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, this a little embarrassing, I "assumed" it was a beta since the 
public release isn't coming out until tomorrow.

i did not pay attention to the version number prior to the download.
All of mine, once they were installed, they just said 14.0.
So, maybe we did just get the full release version.
You know what they say about assuming?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:12 PM, Simon A Fogarty  
wrote:




Hi Richard,

How was the new beta labelled?

As my updates show the version as ios 14,

With no beta version or point version.

And this is a public beta.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Wednesday, 16 September 2020 9:27 am
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: How does the new IOS 14 work with VO

The final beta just came out.

There have been issues and with message threading, misspelled words 
on the rotor, and maybe a couple other oddities, so I would not 
recommend people update immediately when it comes out tomorrow.


Also, some settings have been added and changed.  I won’t say more 
until after the release.


Go and read the Applevis.com blog tomorrow to see what they say.

Here is the main blog page link.  Look for a heading with iOS 14 in 
it probably tomorrow mid-day or afternoon to give them time to get it 
posted.


https://www.applevis.com/blog 



Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Mr. Ed

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:08 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* How does the new IOS 14 work with VO

Hi All,

Just asking the beta tester how IOS 14 workds with VO. Is it stable 
or have a lot of bugs?


Mr. Ed

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